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Edit: To clarify, we're talking about webmonetization.org and admins will be able to disable it. We're not introducing ads.

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in reply to pixelfed

can you elaborate? where is the money coming from?

*edit: so they updated their post; let's see.. "The Web Monetization API allows websites to automatically and passively receive payments from Web Monetization-enabled visitors."

So I guess that's a bit like Patron, but integrated directly into Pixelfed?

I guess it could work, but I'm always a bit wary when money is involved in anything..

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in reply to pixelfed

@bazkie the reason I ask is because one of the mentioned wallets is explicitly a crypto wallet and I haven't had time to check how the others actually work
in reply to Daniel Cooper

@Steel_Virgin Don't worry, ads are not coming to Pixelfed, rather a w3c standard for micro payments!

More info: webmonetization.org/

in reply to pixelfed

I hope this is not the start of Pixelfed enshittification
in reply to Jaime Herazo

@jherazob Don't worry, ads are not coming to Pixelfed, rather a w3c standard for micro payments!

More info: webmonetization.org/

in reply to pixelfed

what does this mean? You'll be blocked for sure if you start allowing ads

Edit: it doesn't seem to be about ads, here is more info directly from @dansup saying the money will come from "the people" via the "web monetization" platform:
mastodon.social/@dansup/114817…

Is this the start of the enshittification of the fediverse? Personally I'd rather keep money out if it altogether


@Steel_Virgin Good point, its powered by webmonetization.org/ so it's the people that will be paying, I meant that I need more time to work out the finer details, but I will be more transparent about this going forward.

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in reply to El Duvelle

@elduvelle Don't worry, ads are not coming to Pixelfed, rather a w3c standard for micro payments!
in reply to pixelfed

@elduvelle

Why?

Why involve payments. Why risk the anger of refugees? What does it gain the users of the platform?

What problem is it a solution to?

in reply to El Duvelle

@elduvelle @dansup it's not enshittification, ads or ai. artists should be able to get paid for the content they make
in reply to froufox 🥀

@froufox
Sure, but aren't there ways to do this already, outside of the fediverse? Do we need the fediverse to do everything? I feel that as soon as money is involved, things start to be exploited by companies and will quickly degenerate into enshittification world
in reply to pixelfed

Are the mutual aid posts an example of what you want to do with Pixelfed? I thought you were suggesting something more integrated. I don't think you can directly pay a mutual aid poster from the fedi?

But I guess it's a good example, as we've recently seen waves of mutual aid spam: this is definitely being exploited, even though the payment is not direct. So with direct payment it will probably be worse.

What I prefer is when artists have a link to their website in their profile or in their posts, where I can go if I want to buy things from them.

Cc: @froufox

in reply to El Duvelle

@elduvelle @dansup

The Internet takes money to run. There's a limit to how much we can pretend that those running a service or server can just absorb the cost of running or creating something (or needing to eat the cost of expanding to meet demand).

The goal shouldn't be pretending monetization isn't necessary, but to create a way of monetizing unobtrusively that supports the hosts and creators as directly and fairly as possible without runaway capitalistic incentives.

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pixelfed

@Trevorgoodchild It's not, it's a w3c micro payment standard!

webmonetization.org/

in reply to pixelfed

omfg WHY???!? we are supposed to be free from that capitalist-monetize-everything mindset on fedi, don't fuck that up... we gotta be different than that shit.

We are NOT "content creators"
we are CULTURE BEARERS.
NO PAYWALLS.
NO MONETIZATION.
NO CAPITALIST BULLSHIT.

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in reply to Spark Purcell (they/them)

@ailurocrat It's opt-in per creator, and it uses a w3c micro payment standard, we're not introducing ads.

More info: webmonetization.org/

in reply to pixelfed

w3c has been captured and is not commons friendly. privateinternetaccess.com/blog…
in reply to pixelfed

I'm generally wary when money gets involved in things.

I don't wanna judge too fast, but I'm thinking about ways this could potentially go wrong.

Like, maybe this could increase the amount of trash/slob on pixelfed that was put there 100% just to get monetary profits?

And could that spawn botnets that "like & repost" that kind of material, to get more people to see it == more moneys?

Did you consider these kinds of potential hazards, @pixelfed ; has there been enough internal and community debate about this?

Are you sure you aren't naively adding something without giving it enough thought?

in reply to pixelfed

I applaud pixelfed for trying something, if it doesn't work, I have full confidence they'll correct course, but we have to make these services financially sustainable or else we will end up with corporations doing it again.
in reply to pixelfed

Seems like an interesting experiment to me. I don't know why so many people instantly assume the worst. I was a fan of the past attempts to let people directly give a little bit for what others have created too, such as Peter Sunde's Flattr. It's not like the fediverse runs for free either, I see lots of instances who are asking users to cover their bills so if you think there isn't any money involved now you must be deliberately ignoring that.
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in reply to pixelfed

Is this going to be some kind of micro-donation integration as covered here?

fediforum.org/2025-06/session/…

By leaving it hanging I'm afraid you've got people assuming there will be ads or something.

in reply to pixelfed

direct monetization is something that as an artist I've tried to set up on Pixelfed before, and a working system would be a big deal. Thanks for trying to work on it ❤

My question is unfortunately the same that it has to be for every payment system - will NSFW artists and creators be able to participate, or will we be locked out like we usually are from these things?

in reply to pixelfed

Privacy-wise, while the recipient does not get your details, do the "wallet providers" then know all your web history?

Ultimately there is no privacy respecting way to make payments online right now (except some cryptos & maybe gnu Taler) so how does KYC and other legal requirements work with webmonetization ? I found nothing about it in their doc

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