An important PSA for people who are active on #Bluesky and who, upon hearing that the ICE account was officially verified, are saying: "I will just block it."
Blocking on Bluesky is NOT PRIVATE: it's very easy to see who is blocking any account by visiting sites that list that information.
I took a screenshot from clearsky.app, listing all the accounts that are blocking ICE (I pixelated avatars and usernames for privacy purposes).
The safest bet is to mute (that info is private) 😫
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u_urban
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Leave for a better neighbourhood
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Nazo
in reply to u_urban • • •@u_urban I feel like all the people who went to Bluesky because Twitter died and became the rabid zombie X learned precisely nothing. It is inevitable that Bluesky will hurt them too, but they will not go to Mastodon because any of a number of silly reasons they'll fight tooth and nail not to let go of.
I suppose a Redsky will open up and they'll go to it, then it will go bad and then a Puke Green Sky will open up and they'll go to that, and then a Gangrene Sky will open...
Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Nazo • • •@nazokiyoubinbou Just a note for the Fediverse = paradise adepts: I'm regularly blocking and if possible reporting Maga propaganda even on Mastodon. You can get evil people *everywhere*.
The question is how much you can protect yourself or if such attempts are defederated or suspended.
Here, the Fediverse is better because human moderators. But most people don't know that difference. And would Mastodon be prepared if the ICE opens an account?
@u_urban @_elena
dansup
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Sheepie
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Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •I'm well aware that posting this info on the Fediverse seems like a pointless exercise, but it's to raise awareness and spread the word to people active in BOTH places.
I was never really active on #Bluesky and entirely stopped using it months ago but there's no point in posting this info there because I have zero reach. Or rather: 1100+ followers and 1-2 likes (at best!) and zero comments for any post. It's like I'm shadow-banned.
If you use it and enjoy it no judgement but please be safe!
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Strght
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •BSky is:
- centralized
- US based
- owned by a mini-big-tech-bro
Just forget it and let’s focus on the good things in life.
Aaron 🥞
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Aaron 🥞 • • •The Sleight Doctor 🃏🍉
in reply to Aaron 🥞 • • •@aaronmccollum It's a real worry that right now, thousands of people with reason to fear ICE are voluntarily adding themselves to a handy list of potential targets, simply by blocking the account.
Again and again, the Bluesky people demonstrate they have no interest in the safety of users.
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to The Sleight Doctor 🃏🍉 • • •Laurent 🫠
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Laurent 🫠 • • •Vladimir Campos
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •hyperreal
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in reply to hyperreal • • •aœ bärlin
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •hyperreal
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to hyperreal • • •Eye
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •@hyperreal
I closed my account there quite a while back but only de-bridged today. I'm sad to no longer see posts from certain people I followed but overall I feel a whole lot better. 👍
Saupreiss #Präparat500 🗽
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •The very same applies to the Fediverse, by the way: When blocking someone, that information is relayed to the instance where the blocked account is hosted. While this is not typically publicly visible, malicious instances know who blocked some of their members and can of course use that information.
(We internally used the amount of blocks as a hint to which local account to investigate, but it‘s at present not worth the hassle.)
Marty Heyman at COBOLworx
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •randomized
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •US government can request data anytime.
zotheca
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Mathew Storm
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in reply to Mathew Storm • • •Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •アイアンハンドガンダム
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •krejgo
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Angela Scholder
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Prophet Margin
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •we have ice and we have social media snobs, larping like they're there, IRL making a difference.
Might as well be one and the same for how effective it is.
stux⚡️
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Everything on Bsky is public
They don’t care about privacy
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Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •stux⚡️
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •It’s kinda scrary, with the right tools one can get a lot of info on people this way
Maybe not direct but many indirect can also lead to that I guess
Aprazeth
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •@stux
People would be genuinely surprised how easy that is to trace things back to them even with the "pseudonymized data". Sure it doesn't contain your name, but it still details (for example)
- Age range
- Rough location
- Interests
- Known associations
Guess how trivial it becomes to correlate that back to an individual? Age range and rough location are known data-points for governments (census) soooo, yeah. Easy-peasy unfortunately
Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •@stux BTW, blocking on Mastodon is also visible. And worse: blocked people can often still read all your public postings. We also have room for improvement when it comes to safety!
@_elena
stux⚡️
in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •@NatureMC Well yeah but that’s if you have a public profile ;)
There is no way around that, without an account anyone can view those from the public pages. That’s why we have followers-only for example
But the block lists are not public on Mastodon and on Bsky they are
Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •@stux People who work with social media, are obliged to have a public profile.
If you block s'o on Bsky, after some seconds, each part can't see anything more from the other account. Not a single post.
Block lists: yes.
@_elena
stux⚡️
in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •@NatureMC But if you logout, you can still view the profile and posts right?
It wouldn’t make sense otherwise
Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to stux⚡️ • • •@stux I just tested it. Yes, you are right: I have to search for a blocked account on Bsky and then I can read it. They don't have this login-wall like other platforms.
Thanks, I learnt something new!
@_elena
stux⚡️
in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •@NatureMC Yup! And with Mastodon and other Fedi software (most) you could ‘hide’ it behind a auth check
Not sure why they do it that way though
Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Mr. Lance E Sloan (IRL) 👤 • • •dr2chase
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Paul Brzeski
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Darth Hideout 🏳️🌈
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •kali
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •canleaf08 ⌘ ✅加拿大葉子 🏳️🌈🏳️
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •aria
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Sebastian Lasse
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •strongly disagree;
"The safest bet" is to leave bluesky and create a fedi instance with the software of your choice.
wink smiley.
Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Sebastian Lasse • • •Kristen
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Jordi
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •@pluralistic I found I had already blocked it through one of the lists I’m subscribed to.
Anyway, blocking the gestapo is the minor or the sins they would find in my TL.
Don Hawkins - W7DAH
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Don Hawkins - W7DAH • • •@donhawkins I would recommend keeping the account inactive / deleting the app instead to avoid username squatting.
I learned the hard way with X - I used Twitter for 14 years and just mere days after deleting 3 accounts, my usernames were immediately seized 😭
Don Hawkins - W7DAH
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Elena Rossini ⁂
in reply to Don Hawkins - W7DAH • • •Don Hawkins - W7DAH
in reply to Elena Rossini ⁂ • • •Mike 🇨🇦 🇳🇱
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