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In what ways would bridging messages from a proprietary app to a free one be more private?

Let's say I want to bridge from WhatsApp or telegram to Matrix, have I gaibed something in terms of privacy? In which case would it make sense? Public group chats? Direct chats?

#privacy

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Tundra

in reply to dontblink • 2 settimane fa • •

matrix bridging decrypts the messages aswell, so even less privacy

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Autonomous User

in reply to Tundra • 2 settimane fa • •

Wrong, bridges expand privacy, used for attack, not defence.

lemmy.world/comment/19823480,

WhatsApp is a scam. It never secures our messages. We do not control it, anti-libre software.

Autonomous User

2025-10-08 13:00:36

Bridges help us break out of privacy raping apps by destroying their network effect.
But an auto-reply, only if written right, always works best.
lemmy.world/post/21620691
We do not control WhatsApp. It fails to include a libre software license text file, anti-libre software.
Escaping these traps is how we take us our privacy back.

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Autonomous User

in reply to dontblink • 2 settimane fa • •

Bridges help us break out of privacy raping apps by destroying their network effect.

But an auto-reply, only if written right, always works best.

lemmy.world/post/21620691

We do not control WhatsApp. It fails to include a libre software license text file, anti-libre software.

Escaping these traps is how we take us our privacy back.

Autonomous User

2024-11-04 11:48:06

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⁉️ WhatsApp is anti-libre software. We do NOT control it. It withholds a libre software license text file, like GPL.
Explained
I reply faster on

Deleting the only way to reach someone online breaks your influence.
example.org

A link and only one link, so (1) they see it's an app, not some random word or typo, (2) they can download it without searching, and (3) they don't have multiple choice–they don't need to do any thinking or research. Remove everything stopping them.
anti-libre software.

Never say privacy, they've heard it all before (from you, no doubt). Say something different.
We do NOT control it.

Make it simple and direct. Think of the most retarded person you know and break it down in a way they would understand. Think about every angle it could be misunderstood.
It withholds

Libre software is normal, default. Anti-libre software is cringe, weird, dangerous. Act like it. Also, humans care less about getting and more about losing stuff.
libre software license text file

Show them what to check for, for themselves, easily, obvious. Later, show them how to spread these ideas. Then, show them how to show others how to spread these ideas, make more of you.
GPL

A keyword for them to web search for more, with better results than more complex terms like AGPL or misleading terms like 'open source'.
Don't waste a word.
Lastly, make yourself someone everyone wants to talk to.

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QuazarOmega

in reply to Autonomous User • 2 settimane fa • •

It isn't really opposing the network effect, because you enable who is on the platform you want to avoid to keep using it and staying in touch with you, so they have no incentive to try your platform, if most of their contacts remain on theirs.
As you said, an automatic response is a thing that would make a difference, there is something at stake and the contact either tries your proposed platform or sees you as too extreme and drops the conversation altogether

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Autonomous User

in reply to QuazarOmega • 2 settimane fa • •

You've already left. You don't need a bridge.

It's for them, not you.

It lets them switch gradually and delete the bridge later.

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QuazarOmega

in reply to Autonomous User • 2 settimane fa • •

I'm not sure I follow, with "them" who are you referring to?

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frongt

in reply to dontblink • 2 settimane fa • •

You would be exposed on both sides, instead of just one or the other.

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smiletolerantly

in reply to dontblink • 2 settimane fa • •

This comment section is.... something.

If you host the bridges yourself, it makes no difference to privacy.

It's simply convenient to have all chats in one place 🤷🏼‍♀️

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monovergent

in reply to dontblink • 2 settimane fa • •

Using a bridge can sidestep telemetry that comes with official apps/clients. The services will also see a ping from your bridge server rather than, say, a direct ping from your mobile device. Make sure to self-host if you want to avoid introducing new parties to your communication stack.

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dontblink
2 settimane fa • •

In what ways would bridging messages from a proprietary app to a free one be more private?

Tundra

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QuazarOmega

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frongt

smiletolerantly

monovergent

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PSA Help others escape WhatsApp using Watomatic auto reply (and how to write it)

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