Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war
Remember when they claimed that they killed 9000 hamas militant in 3 months?
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Revealed: Israeli military’s own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in Gaza war
Figures from classified IDF database listed 8,900 named fighters as dead or probably dead in May, as overall death toll reached 53,000Emma Graham-Harrison (The Guardian)
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in reply to geneva_convenience • • •And we'll likely never know how many civilians/soldiers were killed by Israel issuing the Hannibal Directive on October 7th. Something we do know they issued that day.
Yes. Israel has a protocol that says "killing/harming our own people is preferred to them being kidnapped".
military protocol of the Israeli Defense Forces
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in reply to cygnus • • •In any case, it is civs/total deads.. and maybe Grozny didn't got enough press.
Since Mariupol i have welded in my mind the russian word for children. Freaking animals.
jordanlund
in reply to Siegfried • • •Yup. This is why I had to ban someone posting Russian propaganda from a Pro-Russia Mariupol Youtube channel.
"Look how much better things are with Russia instead of Ukraine!" bullshit.
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How YouTube helps Russia share how great it is in raw and subtle ways - New Eastern Europe
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in reply to mrdown • • •Unfortunately, Palestinians DID vote for Hamas. That on it's own is not removable.
It ignores the larger context of WHY they voted for Hamas, a decade of Israeli abuses going back to the 90s and treating the previous elected party (PLO) as terrorists and not a legitimate government, but it doesn't change the fact that Hamas were elected.
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in reply to cygnus • • •The fact that this sentence can be said, unironically, and backed with data, is kinda depressing.
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in reply to mrdown • • •Like Nougat, I have enough respect and logic to be able to distinguish the Greater from the Lesser Poison for Palestinians in what was a binary choice.
More frankly: Anyone who espoused couch-sitting and MUh boTH sIdEz false equivalence fallacies are complicit in Israel's genocide because any rational person could see Israel would be more constrained by Democrats, while Bibi and AIPAC obviously preferred Trump and Republicans winning.
Also, this isn't to mention they're complicit in worsening Russia's attempted genocide in Ukraine.
Edit: Very stable folks replying, lol.
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in reply to lennybird • • •While you guys cry about your cult losing to the other cult . Other people keep fighting ,protesting, boycotting etc. You guys have zero respect you are just cultists
Rational people know that the billions of dollars that Israel get from the USA is that enabling the genocide. Only fools would believe that democrats would have stopped it. Only fools would think that dems and republicans would have constrained israel.
Netanyahu is a snake he thanked both Trump and Biden when it suited him. Netanyahu supported trump vocally more because it would create an illusion of change
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in reply to prole • • •Odds are high this is being brigaded by tankies or far-right astroturfers. They truly do Bibi proud by enabling his favorite pick in the White House while trying to sow defeatism and apathy while giving no constructive pragmatic alternative solution.
Edit: Case-in-point. This person is programmed to wedge-drive Democrats while ignoring the elephant in the room, the bigger fish — the PRIMARY choice of Netanyahu. Objective bystanders take note the obvious fact that genocide is no simply boolean but a gradient, and MORE people not LESS will die under Trump. Instead, they were wasting time promoting mUh BoTh SiDeS False Equivalence logical fallacies, lapping up the Russian and AIPAC kool-aid and playing right into their hands. Bibi and Trump thank you for your service.
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in reply to Nougat • • •This genocide would also be happening if Harris was president, nothing has changed.
The only difference would be that every Democrat would be supporting the genocide in lock step, rather than what's happening now with Democrats finally speaking out.
Trump brings out the best in Democrats.
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in reply to 5in1k • • •Were you alive when Biden was president and he was the one working hand in glove with Israel to conduct the genocide?
We're watching the same Democrats that supported the genocide under Biden suddenly pivot under Trump.
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in reply to rockSlayer • • •Absolute fucking madness. Not even worth engaging at this point. Yeah dude Kamala would be talking about building luxury hotels on the rubble of Gaza.
Unless you're a literal child, and 2024 was not only your first election, but the first time you've paid attention to any of it, then you've got no excuse (beyond attempting to absolve yourself from the guilt you feel deep down).
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in reply to mrdown • • •isreal wants the palestinian civillians to leave the area.
does that happen if isreal is very careful and avoids harming civillians and its pretty safe for civillians even if they stay?
or if the civillians know they risk being horrifically and indiscriminately massacred if they stay?
they get international hate for their actions; they also get what they want.
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in reply to paisleepunk • • •It's one real person using scripts to create accounts and flood the channel.
We ban them as soon as the accounts are created but sometimes the comments still federate.
We're on it. If you see them, block them, and that will clean up the comment thread.
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in reply to rozodru • • •We're actually doing OK. Fortunately the tools to ban users and remove their bullshit is like, 2 clicks, total.
That being said, they've created a bunch of accounts with 8,000+ posts soooo... like 12 clicks? LOL.