Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County
Lawsuit Challenging 2024 Election Results Moves Forward After Kamala Harris Received Zero Votes in a New York County
A lawsuit disputing the results of the 2024 election has moved forward after it was revealed that former Vice President Kamala Harris received no votes a New York county.Maryam Khanum (Latin Times)
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Asafum
in reply to pelespirit • • •I also strongly believe in their use of projecting as a preemptive defensive strategy.
They say "you cheated you cheated you cheated!" so we reply "you're nuts there's no evidence, it's all a conspiracy theory" so then they can cheat later on and turn it around on you when you go to investigate. "Oh now it's true because you lost? Yeah yeah yeah..."
They're always playing psychological warfare with the population... 🙁
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in4apenny
in reply to Asafum • • •Why can't we do psychological warfare on them? I thought they were so much dumber than us.
Asafum
in reply to in4apenny • • •They already believe it's happening to them which is why they refuse to listen to any source of information that isn't from their preferred brand.
There are plenty of intelligent MAGA that just have an innate bias that they want to have confimed so they allow themselves to be convinced by mis/disinformation. To admit you were wrong, or to accept that you misunderstood actually creates a "pain" type response that people are very adverse to, there are also the types that have so entrenched themselves in their political beliefs that it becomes their identity. This form of physiological warfare I mentioned is just one way of allowing these people to maintain their identity and to give them a "valid" defense against inconvenient information.
Over time a person can be chipped away at, but if you always give them an answer then they never have to suffer the thought that they were ever wrong about anything so they can remain on "your side."
Saleh
in reply to pelespirit • • •A strongmen is elected for seeming strong. Of course he will say beforehand that he is certain that he will win. Saying anything else would harm is brand and make less people vote for him. Trump claiming to be successful at anything and everything also isn't something new for him. He did that his entire (adult) life.
This is evidence for Trump being a narcissist and liar, but with the amount of lies, delusional and nonsensical claims he makes, this can be hardly taken as evidence for election fraud.
LillyPip
in reply to pelespirit • • •And even:
Yes, Trump said Musk knows vote-counting computers 'better than anybody'
The idiot can’t keep his mouth shut and basically blabbed exactly what they were doing, yet nobody really listened.
It will never cease to astound me.
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in reply to redsand • • •Casual dismissal of statistically relevant recount and largest recount ever in Wisconsin, even including compared to 2020.
redsand
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in reply to Armok_the_bunny • • •takeda
in reply to Armok_the_bunny • • •Frankly after election there are two things that bugged me in California. There was a proposition that removed mandatory work requirement for inmates comparing it to a modern day slavery. There was no one who was willing to endorse vote against it (I suppose due to optics) yet the proposition failed.
When he visited CA after fires were already put down and made that spectacle with water dam, he also mentioned that he had a good feeling about next election.
I have a feeling that maybe CA voting is also compromised and this was a test for California, as trump winning here would be extremely suspicious, but no one will care about this proposition.
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in reply to Zak • • •From what I understand about the issue that I read about in a different article it was about software changes made to a program that many states use, PA was one of them.
I think NY is the only place where it is currently being investigated, but if it happened here I don't doubt it happened elsewhere.
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in reply to kinther • • •tisktisk
in reply to kinther • • •Is there any other evidence that suggests a good reason for even trying?
takeda
in reply to tisktisk • • •Look for example at Ramapo 58 district:
app.enhancedvoting.com/results…
Harris only got a single vote in a district that historically votes for Democrats. What are the odds. But maybe Democrats just lost popularity.
But then look at Senate
app.enhancedvoting.com/results…
Now democratic candidate wins by 94.12% what are the odds?
And this is not a single district, there are many others like that.
Election Results
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Lucky_777
in reply to kinther • • •Some algorithm probably takes votes away from a canadiate but you can't have negative votes. Someone forgot to insert the threshold killing the program.
Sounds musky.
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in reply to kinther • • •Let's just say there was fraud, and Kamala did actually win:
Now what? This administration has been blatantly breaking the law, ignoring the constitution and court orders since day fucking 1 without consequence. Will someone with authority finally grow some fucking nuts and arrest the felon(s) over this, even though they could and should have already for numerous other reasons?
SatansMaggotyCumFart
in reply to 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 • • •It really leads to the question of does winning an election make you the president or is having the power transferred to you all it takes?
I should ask Gerald Ford.
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in reply to kinther • • •I do believe people were calling me alarmist for noticing strange patterns.
Like winning all 7 swing states? Your fucking kidding me right?
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in reply to peoplebeproblems • • •santa
in reply to peoplebeproblems • • •Also not surprising that investigations weren’t pushed harder after election and before new administration. Biden and Garland should’ve put throttle down on a five-alarm-fire investigation into election. Did they? No. Surprised? Not at all.
Transitions shouldn’t necessarily be smooth if an election was potentially fraudulent — peaceful, yes.
Jumpingspiderman
in reply to santa • • •conditional_soup
in reply to Jumpingspiderman • • •ChickenLadyLovesLife
in reply to santa • • •For that matter, Obama should have conducted an investigation into the 2016 election when he still had the power to do so.
solsangraal
in reply to kinther • • •how the fuck is this "result" just now coming to light?
not that it'll amount to anything
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in reply to Lukas Murch • • •"Accuse your enemy of what you intend to do"
Not actually a quite from Goebbels or Marx, but the Republican guiding principle nonetheless.
ChickenLadyLovesLife
in reply to DragonTypeWyvern • • •It's ironic that Hitler's "Night of the Long Knives" (when the Nazis arrested and eventually murdered numerous brownshirts and their leader, Ernst Roehm) acquired that name because Hitler himself used the expression in a speech that he gave immediately after the event. In the speech, he accused Roehm of having been planning a "NIght of the Long Knives" himself, directed at Hitler and the other Nazi leaders. Quite unintentionally, the phrase came to describe Hitler's actions.
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in reply to goferking (he/him) • • •Yes, but then he un-conceded. How do you think it got to the Supreme Court unless he fought?
He brought it to the Florida circuit court, and when he lost he appealed to the Florida Supreme Court, who ruled in his favor. Then Bush appealed to the US Supreme Court.
The problem was a coordinated effort to steal the election by the bitch queen Katherine Harris, Florida Secretary of State and Bush's Florida campaign co-chair, a fake riot by Republican operatives to disrupt a recount, and a collaborating Supreme Court. It was all tied up nicely in a bow and there wasn't much Gore could have done, although he should have requested a statewide recount right from the start instead of just cherry picking solidly Democratic-leaning counties like Miami-Dade.
goferking (he/him)
in reply to xyzzy • • •He only conceded after that...
americanrhetoric.com/speeches/…
Online Speech Bank: Al Gore - 2000 Presidential Concession Speech
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in reply to jjjalljs • • •Others clearly have their pitch forks ready to go but the real reason here is because they won NY. I'd be shocked if any presidential candidate in the history of the US demanded a recount in a state they won.
Is 0 votes suspicious? Absolutely. Is the recount process the right way to uncover something happening at a scale to compromise an entire district's election process? Probably not.
According to Balletpedia, it's unclear who in NY even pays for a voluntary recount (NY has mandatory recounts in close elections).
However suspicious this district is, it's not justification for a recount in another district in a completely different state.
If there is interference at a meaningful scale, it's not going to be uncovered by volunteers working without sleep to deliver election results as quickly as humanly possible. The wheels of justice turn far top slowly.
A lawsuit is a good first step.
Who pays for recounts and contested elections? (2024)
Ballotpediabarneypiccolo
in reply to jjjalljs • • •Because they didn't want to be perceived as doing the same thing as the Republicans after the 2020 election. After complaining about the Republicans not having a "peaceful transfer of power," Dems thought it was important to demonstrate how that works, and be smug about it.
Unfortunately, this was precisely the wrong election to make that point, since this election truly was rat fucked by MAGA.
jjjalljs
in reply to barneypiccolo • • •piefood
in reply to jjjalljs • • •I mean.... we are talking about the Democrats. That's almost their motto.
barneypiccolo
in reply to piefood • • •Yes, it's a terrible strategy, but it's the easiest one to default to if you are a cowardly spineless weenie Democrat who is afraid to confront serious treason and corruption, like Chuck Schumer. Traditional Dems are satisfied with losing, as long as they can feel smug about being morally superior while doing it, even if it means watching the Reps systematically dismantle America on behalf of the Russians.
We need elected representatives at every level who aren't afraid to go to battle to defend our country from treasonous criminals and Sociopathic Oligarchs.
wanderwisley
in reply to kinther • • •LucidNightmare
in reply to wanderwisley • • •That’s honestly what got me too. Like it took a week for them to get all of the results from 2020, and sure, that could’ve been all the mail in ballots, but then you have Rogan saying elongated muskrat had called the election the night OF voting?
I don’t know man. I’ve seen a few elections now and don’t remember that happening.
wanderwisley
in reply to LucidNightmare • • •Raiderkev
in reply to wanderwisley • • •If you have a few hours to kill, this podcast had the guy from election truth alliance on. It is the most tolerable of the few podcasts he's appeared on because this guy is data heavy, and quite frankly it can be boring with how much he talks about data and graphs, but the data is there. They are very data driven. Part 2 has most of the data, but essentially votes went way up for Republicans as time went on. Statistically speaking, there should be a similar distribution of votes throughout, but what we see is any time Kamala gets close, a flood of red votes come in. The theory is a vote switching algorithm. Imo Elon saying that without him the Dems get the presidency and the house is not hyperbole. I'm pretty sure they were flipping votes and/ or using data from the super PAC $100 giveaway to file fake votes. There are a bunch of submitted ballots that were down ballot dem, but president and house / Senate (the ones that mattered the most) went to Republicans. The only way to find out is to do audits. And even if (and imo when) we do find out it was stolen, I don't think we have any recourse to remove him, but it would be nice to know that we didn't choose this, and the states can beef up their election security and politicians can stop being so spineless thinking that he's so popular and they are powerless.
The guy was dancing around like a crazy person to Ave Maria at his last rally and yelling about people eating cats and dogs on the debate. There's no way anyone saw that and wanted that running the country save the maybe 8% of the population that are Trump Simps.
His rallies were empty and Harris had the momentum with a packed house everywhere she went. She mopped the floor with him in the debate. The fact that she accepted the results and didn't push for a single recount was asinine imo. With Trump, everything is projection. There's evidence they tried to steal '20 and we're just overwhelmed by the sheer volume of people who voted by mail to oust him. Vote by mail is typically hand counted and harder to alter.
youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs
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in reply to Raiderkev • • •You overestimate this country.
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in reply to wanderwisley • • •I'm tired of going high when they go low.
If the new standard is for Republicans to cast doubt on the legitimacy of every election, except for the ones they win, then we should, at the very least, be scrutinizing every single aspect of the election. Refuse to concede, demand recounts, hand tally the electronic ballots, search up and down and under every rock for evidence that the other side is guilty of some foul play.
Because if they had done that in the first place, they might have uncovered shit like this before it was too late to stop the wrong candidate from getting inaugurated. If they had bothered to put up a fight instead of maintaining decorum that the Republicans never bother to show, maybe they would have discovered what many of us already suspected - that Elon Musk somehow tampered with the voting machines to swing the election in Donald Trump's favor in key swing states. They practically admitted as much on stage, and nobody batted an eye at it.
I don't expect to ever live to see another fair election for the rest of my life.
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in reply to ssfckdt • • •Daftydux
in reply to ssfckdt • • •Leading up to the election all we were talking about is how trump got ahold of documents through court filings that would show exactly how the voting machines worked. Crazy how thst talking point just fell away.
At this point we know the who, the why, the what, and the how. We need to figure out the where and when.
Sculptor9157
in reply to corsicanguppy • • •ristoril_zip
in reply to kinther • • •I'm very much against conspiracy theories, especially concerning our elections which are administered by many many independent entities. I was very concerned as I watched electronic voting machines - especially without paper trails - become more and more popular over the past 30 years. Even more as the industry consolidated and it came down to a handful of private, for-profit manufacturers.
The thing I've read about that is keeping the door of conspiracy open in my mind is the "drop off" rate, which has to do with the number of "President only" ballots, where only the President is chosen, and no down ballot votes are cast.
Apparently Trump's ballots have an unusually high - like statistically unlikely - drop off. And it's either only in or mostly in/more pronounced in swing states.
Even Chris Titus picked it up (3 hrs total, sorry)
youtu.be/UgIay64Obcs - Part 1
youtu.be/t-yr-Mgkhm0 - Part 2
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in reply to ristoril_zip • • •finitebanjo
in reply to kinther • • •So on one hand: Harris won NY State by a 10% margin.
On the other hand: if vote machines were tampered with then it likely doesn't stop there.
mic_check_one_two
in reply to finitebanjo • • •tinkling4938
in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •3abas
in reply to tinkling4938 • • •If only there was a give movement of Democrat voters telling you loudly WE WON'T VOTE FOR HARRIS...
You guys usually love to blame us for Trump, even though we promised you he would win if you didn't give us an electable candidate, but hey if you now want to change stories again to follow whatever dem narrative is being spun today, then yeah her winning NY so bigly is obviously evidence of a stolen election...
Or she wasn't electable. No no no, it's everyone else's fault.
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in reply to Bytemeister • • •Bytemeister
in reply to Jumpingspiderman • • •Sure.
But the Democrats decided not to hold a primary that late, and I don't recall any Democrats running a meaningful challenge to her candidacy...
So, let me ask again. Who was an electable candidate in 2024?
Jumpingspiderman
in reply to 3abas • • •Tryenjer
in reply to finitebanjo • • •Felon practically admitted this last week.
The guy said the Democrats would control the House and even gave numbers for the Republicans in the Senate. What more do people need?
PugJesus
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in reply to PugJesus • • •Gates9
in reply to kinther • • •This stuff has been going on for a loooong time:
Interview with Stephen Spoonamore on of the electronic voting issues that have been raised for a while now:
youtube.com/watch?v=BRW3Bh8HQi…
if you want to jump right to his explanation/comparison to his work with securing credit card transactions against "man in the middle" attacks:
youtube.com/watch?feature=play…
truth-out.org/news/item/2319:n…
Breakdown of why Electronic voting in general is incredibly insecure:
Documentary going into Clint Curtis's story:
(the guy from this video):
Fractional Voting:
blackboxvoting.org/fraction-ma…
HBO documentary Hacking Democracy:
New Court Filing Reveals How the 2004 Ohio Presidential Election Was Hacked
Bob Fitrakis (Truthout)ChickenLadyLovesLife
in reply to Gates9 • • •RizzRustbolt
in reply to kinther • • •Which county?
Edit: Rockland. Which is very much a possibility there.
xyzzy
in reply to kinther • • •Leftists and liberals all think they're somehow immune to conspiracy theories, but here we are. Nearly everyone commenting or voting in this thread has an opinion based on feelings, and they're looking for evidence to justify their beliefs. "I'm not one to believe conspiracy theories, but..." That's a load-bearing "but" there.
No really: stop for ten seconds and think about why you believe this. Be honest.
Yes, I'm aware of the video that's been linked repeatedly where they can't explain how a small percentage of Trump cultists only voted for Trump and no one else. Imagine that: voters who think the entire system is corrupt and Trump is their savior don't vote for anyone else.
Here's an actual recount in a swing state, and it found nothing.
And as korendian has been trying to tell you, New Square in Ramapo, NY is a tiny, 100% Hasidic village and votes as a monolithic bloc.
I'm not saying the election was clean. It never is. Red states purge voters they shouldn't, they enact laws to discourage voters and make it more difficult, etc. And sometimes it actually is a conspiracy: 2000 is one example where it really was rigged for Bush through coordinated efforts.
But there's zero persuasive evidence for 2024. If I see some, I'll charge my mind. But not until then.
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in reply to kinther • • •To paraphrase Bush v Gore over negative votes in Florida after the SC sent the case to a lower court and it was appealed back to them
barneypiccolo
in reply to kinther • • •After HitlerPig's 2025 State of the Union speech, new Democratic senator Elissa Slotkin gave the Democratic response, and tried to sell the idea that millions of people in her state voted for her for Senator, but Trump for president.
This past weekend, Amy Klobuchar tried to sell that same fantasy on Meet The Press - that millions in her state voted for her, but also voted for HitlerPig.
I'm sure there are a few people who split their vote, but they have to be as rare as white squirrels. There are supposed to be millions of them, so many that HitlerPig even won EVERY battleground state (an exceptionally unlikely outcome), but I've never heard one actual voter claim they voted a straight Democratic ticket, except HitlerPig for president. It sounds ridiculous when you actually say it.
FosterMolasses
in reply to barneypiccolo • • •For the uninitiated:
- YouTube
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in reply to barneypiccolo • • •If you look at the actual vote counts
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Uni…
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_U…
Trump | 2,816,636
Harris | 2,736,533
Slotkin | 2,712,686
Rogers | 2,693,680
Harris and Slotkin net out almost perfectly. Trump outran Rogers by over 3% of the vote, which suggests people were showing up to support Mr Cheeto and then leaving the rest of the ballot blank.
That is... not unbelievable. The Trump Cult is strong, while the GOP as a party lags Trump's personality cult substantially.
Polling gets even worse in other Midwestern states, with Harris outright underwater to her down ballot Dems. But there's nobody in the GOP Trump doesn't outpace. The idea that people are voting Trump + Dem is far less likely than voting Trump + Nobody.
2024 United States Senate election in Michigan - Wikipedia
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in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •Citing the vote counts to prove the point that the election was "fair & square" is like using the Bible to prove that God is real. Of course they prove HitlerPig won, they're rigged! We're supposed to believe he won EVERY swing state? No Republican has won the popular vote since 1988, but we're supposed to believe the least popular Republican president in decades, one who actually LOST his reelection by a wide margin, is the guy to break that streak? Ridiculous.
What makes more sense to me, and is supported by the evidence and personal statements by the players themselves, is that they rigged the election, especially in the swing states, assisted by the richest man in the world (and his army of some of the best tech experts in the world), and Putin, who we know has been actively pursuing cyber-espionage for years.
When will people internalize that the two biggest FOREIGN Sociopathic Oligarchs, one with a government superpower at his disposal, another with the largest fortune on the planet, neither with any loyalty or patriotism toward America, have partnered up with the most prolific traitor in American history, to exploit our country in every way possible? None of them care about history or legacy or reputation, they see America as a rich, fat, lazy target, ripe for exploitation and looting.
Smoogs
in reply to kinther • • •This is why manual hand counted votes still happen to this day in Canada and Australia. They both faced the same MAGA threat and the lib won.
Yes it takes longer. And sometimes results will take weeks to resolve but at least they don’t end up in a situation like this where the entire system is so corrupt 4 months later it’s near impossible to fix it.
KneeTitts
in reply to Smoogs • • •UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to Smoogs • • •Largely thanks to the local public backlash to Trump tariffs. If Kamala had prevailed in November, both countries would likely have MAGA governments today.
lapping6596
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to lapping6596 • • •Part of the Trump brand is "Fuck you, I've got mine" which isn't condusive to international coalitions.
Hell, just look at the Ukraine/Russia conflict. As soon as Trump got Zelensky to sign a bunch of Western Ukrainian real estate over to his cronies, he unleashed a large traunch of weapons to fuck over Putin. As soon as he got another Perfect Phone Call from Xi, and secured some unspecified promise, the Chinese tariffs evaporated.
My man stands for nothing that won't fit into his pocket.
dgmib
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •We can’t say that. We don’t know what would’ve happened in Canada if Trump lost.
If Trump lost:
A lot of things could’ve been different, but most notably:
For all we know PP wouldn’t be seen as “the same MAGA threat”
neograymatter
in reply to Smoogs • • •Note to mention that not only are they harder to scale attacks against, manual vote counts are easier to trust, As anyone can understand the process and how it ensured that their vote counted.
No matter how well they are protected it's hard to explain to the average person how a computer ensures their vote was counted correctly.
Enkimaru
in reply to Smoogs • • •KneeTitts
in reply to kinther • • •So wait a minute here guys, you're telling me that the man who was convicted by a unanimous jury of fraud (cheating) in the 2016 election, the same guy who called the governors of various states and asked them to 'find him some votes' in 2020, did not run a clean honest campaign in 2024???
Get the EFF out of here!!
Kimmy
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