It's much too early to ask us when we'll have support for the new Pixel 10 phones. They're only available for preorder. We need to have access to the devices and factory images before we can start working on this. If the new Pixels still provide proper alternate OS support, we can support them.
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •Because if not, I'm stuck with my current pixel for the next years and then I don't know what to do afterwards.
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •I'm dreaming of a phone made in Europe with an OS like yours, that would be awesome.
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in reply to Okuna • • •I am also dreaming of a made in Europe smartphone but when we look at the price of Librem phone in made in USA, I am not ready for it...
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in reply to Daniel • • •@DanielDNK @Okuna Librem 5 has atrocious security due to the choices for components and how they put things together themselves. It lacks basic security updates for firmware and that's intentional. They purposely chose less secure components and avoided being able to update them from the OS as much as they could.
Both the PinePhone and Librem 5 are falsely marketed as being open source when that's not the case. Both are almost entirely closed source hardware with closed source firmware.
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •@Okuna i dont see the link between the price difference between the normal Librem phone and the made in USA one. I was only using it as an example of a smartphone price illustration between the made in China version and the made in USA version, the rest is out of subject, the Librem is for those who want to have fun and develop app for the Linux mobile world.
Just in term of price and specification, buy an used pixel 3a and put PostmarketOS or UbuntuTouch is so much cheaper and so much powerful to have a test phone for development purposes.
You cannot compare experimental Linux phone of an experimental company with Android ROM for daily use, it make no sense.
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> the Librem is for those who want to have fun and develop app for the Linux mobile world
Librem devices lack basic security updates and aren't safe devices.
Android is Linux mobile. It's not systemd, glibc and GNOME which makes it Linux.
> used pixel 3a
These launched with 3 years of support instead of 7 and are end-of-life, which means lacking firmware updates.
> for development purposes
Hopefully without connecting it to the internet due to unpatched remote holes.
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> You cannot compare experimental Linux phone of an experimental company with Android ROM for daily use, it make no sense.
Librem 5 is not an experimental device and Purism is not an experimental company. It's a for-profit company selling people products for production usage. The products have atrocious privacy and security along with not being open source as they frequently claim.
The term "Android ROM" is inaccurate. GrapheneOS is an operating system, as is the stock OS.
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in reply to GrapheneOS • • •@Okuna by just comparing the same version of the phone but just a different production country, I remove all of what you are talking about for just doing an apple to apple comparison.
They are the only one to produce a smartphone made in USA so I personally have nothing better for the comparison.
If you discover this made in USA phone, here is the link
puri.sm/products/liberty-phone…
Purism– Liberty Phone
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> by just comparing the same version of the phone but just a different production country, I remove all of what you are talking about for just doing an apple to apple comparison.
You don't know what their profit margins are on either variant. USA variant likely has a much higher profit margin. It's a gimmick.
> only one to produce a smartphone made in USA
It's assembled in the USA. Nearly all of the components are produced elsewhere. The complex parts are done elsewhere.
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