I've been adding most of the videos that I watch to the FediverseTV playlist, I think a lot about how Google has a rich history of the videos that I watch Yet, often people I know have never heard of any of it. Likewise, I often just don't know what media people are talking about.
I know daylighting most of your watch history isn't for everyone. But, I think a shared media landscape is important.
It would be amazing if this kind of sharing had an intuitive cross platform version... 1/
A Flock of Beagles
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to A Flock of Beagles • • •@burnitdown
I wouldn't mind more history.
A Flock of Beagles
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •i've enjoyed this channel for a while. the videos are long but full of detail.
youtube.com/channel/UCN9v4QG3A…
History Time
YouTubemyrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Imagine a shared playlist that pulled everything from the FediverseTV playlist on youTube, but you could also add peertube, nebula, and other videos to this super list.
And maybe it had a way to comment and discuss the videos.
This sounds deceptively simple. Online applications tend to fail to catch on because it's too hard to log in, you need to make a new account, or there isn't an easy way to adapt use into the ways people already use tech.
This wouldn't be a small project at all.
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •One of the reasons I'm suddenly interested in sharing videos is directly related to AI.
I worry that I might watch a video and not know that it's AI.
A lot of AI is very obvious to me, but that doesn't mean that I can't be fooled. When we look at things together and discuss them we stand a better chance of catching deceit.
This is the invite link to fediTV. You can add videos on youTube by clicking "save" when you are watching them:
INVITE LINK: youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTh…
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fediTV: the fediverse shared playlist
YouTubemyrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I promise if you watch a lot of youTube this is dead simple and easy.
If you don't watch a lot of youTube? Honestly good for you. But what do you watch?
If you watch videos most of the time it's:
- mostly youTube (56%, 127 votes)
- mostly other corporate streaming/cable (17%, 39 votes)
- mostly peerTube, DVDs other (6%, 15 votes)
- Don't watch videos much other (19%, 43 votes)
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Mina
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •My YouTube addiction is bad.
I managed to quit smoking after 30 years trying to, so eventually I might get there, too.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Mina • • •@mina
I find posting what I watch on the shared list, forces me to think a little bit more about what I watch.
If I watch something I don’t want to put on the list I think: WHY am I watching something that’s so low quality that I wouldn’t want the people I know to watch it as well?
Looking at all of the videos I’ve watched since this began makes me think about how I’m using my time. It’s a bit of accountability some of us might do together.
Mina
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Sounds sensible.
I'm going to subscribe to that list, too.
MarvinFreeman
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Kanopy. Free from the library!
YouTube's interface and operation feel like they are an attack on my sense of usability and simplicity. Truly dislike even seeing the site much less using it, even with autoplay off.
Also, I have found videos a poor way to receive information that requires thinking. I'm better with text for thoughtful things.
sknob
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •The Indie Beat Television ( @TIBtv) which launched December 28th, uses open source software, was created by musicians, and features only videos by independant artists, mostly from the fediverse. The launch was a big success, people are sending in videos daily, and the quality is incredible.
tv.theindiebeat.fm
The Indie Beat Television
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william.maggos
in reply to sknob • • •@sknob @TIBtv
it uses #owncast. there's a great app for Roku.
we "just" need great apps for these services. maybe we could pool some money and pay to get FOSS reference apps built.
Randy Hughes-King
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Nebula is YouTubers but off platform for freeing the revenue capture back to creators. I have confirmation from friends who stream that YT pays almost nothing now.
Supporting NPR/a creator patreon is the way. Find your human source and pay em
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Randy Hughes-King • • •@dobetterinstitute
I also hope that the fediTV list could help people find what is worth supporting directly— based on what people are really watching.
Craig Lambie
in reply to Randy Hughes-King • • •So I have started working on @fedipay fedipay.net
An open source, decentralised creator reward system so I can pay creators my way, with simple transactions ixeally eventually too
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Craig Lambie • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
How will the payments work?
I've found that when it comes to getting cash to people there is a lot of variation on what will work for THEM. "creators" the kind I want to support are generally very broke and can't easily decide how they want to interact with monetary systems.
Sometimes that means a big company like paypal other times it means using the post.
Mailing cash is bad, but it's often been the best solution.
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Craig Lambie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •In Australia and Europe banking is easy. But the idea is a creator/contributor creates an account on a fedipay server.
They put their chosen way to receive payment there.
Eventually the servers will communicate with each other to settle up, and any remaining funds are transferred back out to their final place.
For now I am just building the actual server and extension for tracking (that you own and control)
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Craig Lambie • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
Options:
*use paypal and my $20 donation ends up being about $14 by the time the fees are done on all sides.
* mail cash and risk it all getting stolen OR they get the whole $20 bucks they can spend right away.
The downside is I can only do this with people who trust me with their address. But that's also an upside in a way.
Mailing cash was good enough for my mom when she was worried about me LOL. Why not?
George Dinwiddie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Craig Lambie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@dobetterinstitute @fedipay hard and expensive to send cash $1 to an eastern european, $1 to a canadian and $1 to a vietnamese guy....
But what if I sent $10 to fedipay.
and 100 other people did (1000).
Then fedipay worked out that the server in eastern europe needs ~333 and canada needs ~334 and vietnamese server needs ~333
Then the local server admin could use the local bank to send $1 to by bank transfer to the local developer - etc.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Craig Lambie • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I think this is such an important problem to think about. Payment networks are networks of trust. Since IRL we don't experience "transaction fees" it easy to not understand why such fees are so hard to avoid when moving online.
I don't want to discourage you because it's upsetting how hard it is to extricate oneself from all of the big players in payments.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
To get philosophical: making currency is a primary function of a state. States have chosen to allow private entities to take this role in digital spaces, an abdication of state power. (The political reasons how and why this has happened are interesting.)
I once thought a "stateless currency" was possible. I now think that was very naive.
The currency *is* the state.
When the currency fails? so to the government.
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@craiglambie42
There is a kind of person who seeks to be the intermediary in all transactions: they fantasize that they should get a little tax on everything.
They seek transaction fees as others seek rents.
Those innocents who want "free and open exchanges" never see them coming. We need to learn to be more suspicious, avaricious or evil IDK.
"you just want to make money without even doing anything!" I cry with horror
They think: "yes, you clueless idiot that's the whole POINT"
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myrmepropagandist
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@craiglambie42
Anyway that is why I'm mailing $20 bills which I iron first so they are very smooth and flat to some lady who makes ant sculptures out of bottle caps.
Craig Lambie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •I totally agree.
I was a property developer and have worked in finance. I know how these people think (and I have to stop myself sometimes)
But Bank of Dave - he is doing it for the people. I want to see that happen too.
No rent seeking, just rewarding people.
Ideally a network of trusted servers, maybe run by banks, or local councils or local clubs/ charities with a treasurer that oversees the distributions, which are mostly automated.
dr2chase
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to dr2chase • • •@dr2chase @craiglambie42
What services are US banks lacking that one finds abroad?
I often interact with people who don't have bank accounts. A bank can make a lot of sense if you have a salaried job with direct deposit and a mortgage. Generally with one or the other the bank will provide a lot of services for free.
If you don't have such a tie to the bank they can be as predatory as payday lenders which is why people avoid them and go to the payday lenders who are, at least predictable.
dr2chase
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •lopta
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Craig Lambie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@dobetterinstitute @fedipay that is getting into a crypto discussion... which I think is best avoided.
Philosophy is good though... all money is debt... money is not real at all, but a figment of our imagination 😁
John Maxwell
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay - Yeah, but extending credit to someone is the equivalent of creating currency. So governments have outsourced that for centuries
The novelty is deciding not to regulate crypto in any way. Of course, they're applying that philosophy to old school finance too, so.
Craig Lambie
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I totally agree, getting away from the big players is important.
In Australia we can easily pay other people with their phone number.
In the US it is hard - that is why Paypal and others came to be.
In the UK and EU, it is really simple, and free to do transfers.
I imagine getting a community bank or building society involved to help with the actual money part - eventually that might solve multiple problems.
It would mean creators have to open an account
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Craig Lambie • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I think working with credit unions is a good idea. There has been growth in that area and there is room for more growth.
Randy Hughes-King
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@craiglambie42 @fedipay
Brazil solved their unbanked problem. Somalia's banking runs on flip phones. FinTech solutions are encouraged and entirely doable! No matter what barrier you find keep tinkering, a FediPay solution must exist.
Link to Brazil's.
Pix (payment system) - Wikipedia share.google/vsJcX6Fk9kwSZ1Ij5
electronic payment system from Brazil
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Ben Hammond
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •@craiglambie42 @dobetterinstitute @fedipay
I heard somewhere that Pay-as-you-go phone companies allowed anyone in the world to top up payments, and also allowed the owner to withdraw some of their pay-as-you-go balance,
and this turned in to a major way to send funds to relatives in Vietnam and India
* Was this ever true
* Is it still a thing
* would it be helpful in this situation?
@stevewfolds
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Loose cash can be extracted from envelopes without opening them by rolling bills w/a pair of small knitting needles and sliding them out. Wrapping cash in a piece of paper …
tei
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in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •Luci Bitchface Angerfoot
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •i know how to pull youtube playlists into google sheets using the youtube API.
a google form could accept urls from other services. a gscript could generate an html file with all the videos paginated and embedded, and a bit of playlist magic.
a webintent link next to each video can autogenerate a fediverse hashtag to post to. maybe something like #yt_
[videoid]a small script can pull and embed the rss feed for each hashtag
this is all possible but much harder if we avoid google services; but we’re already using youtube.
myrmepropagandist
in reply to Luci Bitchface Angerfoot • • •@bri7
There should also be a hashtag on such posts so they can all be filtered out for politeness or found when wanted eg #fediTVTalk #fediTVTalk_peerTube_0001 ?
ooh this is fun to think about—