We are alarmed by reports that Germany is on the verge of a catastrophic about-face, reversing its longstanding and principled opposition to the EU’s Chat Control proposal which, if passed, could spell the end of the right to privacy in Europe. signal.org/blog/pdfs/germany-c…
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Synapsenkitzler 🌻 🌈
in reply to Signal • • •Stop #Chatkontrolle
Handle jetzt:
chat-kontrolle.eu/index.php/20…
oder
fightchatcontrol.eu/de/
Info: netzpolitik.org/2025/eu-ueberw…
"Wichtige Stimmen wie Amnesty International, Reporter ohne Grenzen und der Chaos Computer Club appellieren eindringlich an die Bundesregierung, die Chatkontrolle zu verhindern. Sie warnen vor einem Angriff auf die Pressefreiheit, einem IT-Sicherheitsalptraum und einer Gefahr für die Demokratie."
"Die geplante Verordnung enthält Vorschriften, die Messenger wie WhatsApp, Signal, Threema oder Telegram verpflichten sollen, die Kommunikation aller Nutzer:innen ohne jeden Verdacht zu durchsuchen."
#chatcontrol #StopChatcontrol #whatsapp #signal #threema
EU-Überwachungspläne: „Die Chatkontrolle gefährdet die Demokratie“
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Patrick.PSC
in reply to Signal • • •Ulli
in reply to Patrick.PSC • • •@psc
Vielleicht ist #DeltaChat eine Alternative.
=> delta.chat/
Dezentrale (Mail-) Server...
Patrick.PSC
in reply to Ulli • • •Ulli
in reply to Patrick.PSC • • •App installieren
(Mail-) Account über nine.testrun.org/
erstellen. Kontakt über Scan des QRcodes verbinden fertig.
Total easy
nine.testrun.org home
nine.testrun.org.ｂｅｅｊａｙ
in reply to Ulli • • •Schlüssellochkind 👁️
in reply to .ｂｅｅｊａｙ • • •Du musst nicht einen der "chatmail" Server nehmen, die können meist nur auf dem selben Server schreiben, wenn man sich nicht per QR/Link (live?) addet. Du kannst eigentlich jede Emailadresse nutzen, und dann auch normal serverübergreifend schreiben. Ist im Prinzip nur ein Mailclient wie jeder andere, nur auf chat und autocrypt spezialisiert.
Aber letztlich wohl auch betroffen patrick-breyer.de/beitraege/ch…
@URH1 @psc @signalapp
Chatkontrolle
Patrick BreyerSchlüssellochkind 👁️
in reply to Schlüssellochkind 👁️ • • •@beejay
Also mit mehreren deltachats auf dem selben Mailaccount erzeugt jeder client seinen eigenen Schlüssel mein ich - war zumindest mal so, als man den noch einfach exportieren konnte bzw. seinen selbstgenerierten nutzen konnte.
Etwas nerdig kann man den wohl noch mit einem anderen Client rausziehen, hab ich mir sagen lassen..
@URH1 @psc @signalapp
Schlüssellochkind 👁️
in reply to Schlüssellochkind 👁️ • • •Die clienten synchtonisieren sich aber, habe auch 2 auf 1 Konto laufen, tauschen also Schlüssel aus.
Ah, man muss sie gegenseitig scannen:
delta.chat/de/help#multiclient
@URH1 @psc @signalapp
Delta Chat: FAQ
delta.chatArnel Šarić Sharan
in reply to Signal • • •hacknorris
in reply to Signal • • •flo
in reply to hacknorris • • •Tutanota is an email provider, not a messenger app.
@signalapp@Tutanota
hacknorris
in reply to flo • • •yeah but they also provide encryption and their from Germany…
flo
in reply to hacknorris • • •You mean to support the fight against chatcontrol?
@Tutanota@signalapp
hacknorris
in reply to flo • • •Tuta
in reply to hacknorris • • •Deathly Socks
in reply to Signal • • •That would be helpful.
EU/GE involved
in reply to Signal • • •Wer unbeobachtet/ungehindert kriminellen Aktivitäten nachgehen will, der soll sich bewusst sein, dass er immer beobachtet wird.
Signal braucht sich nicht hinter Amnesty International, Ärzte ohne Grenzen etc. zu verstecken.
Randy
in reply to Signal • • •Threema and 24/7 vpn? Sounds like we are going to be like china.
Gauff 🇪🇺
in reply to Randy • • •Randy
in reply to Gauff 🇪🇺 • • •Delta Chat
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Lin
in reply to Delta Chat • • •Civilization’s algorithm is simple:
centralization tightens; we merely pick a softer prison.
To attempt the impossible is the last chivalry.
Kerplunk
in reply to Signal • • •We are alarmed by reports that Germany is on the verge of a catastrophic about-face, reversing its longstanding and principled opposition to the EU’s Chat C
Germany has wanted total surveillance for years, especially the constellation CDU CSU.
Some German states already have Israeli Surveillance and Prediction software, now the awful gov under Merz wants to feed that.
Werawelt
in reply to Kerplunk • • •@Kerplunk
Das sagt die deutsche Beauftragte für Datenschutz und Informationssicherheit (im Fediverse: @BfDI ):
"Die BfDI wird sich weiterhin dafür stark machen, dass die Chatkontrolle in dieser Form nicht realisiert wird. Grundrechte müssen gewahrt werden und auch stets beim Datenschutz und dem Schutz des Fernmeldegeheimnisses gelten. Sofern der EU-Gesetzgebende den Verordnungsentwurf nicht deutlich nachbessert, werde ich mich weiterhin dafür einsetzen, dass die Verordnung in dieser Form nicht verabschiedet wird."
Quelle: bfdi.bund.de/DE/Fachthemen/Inh…
#BfDi #Chatkontrolle #Datenschutz
BfDI - Übersichtsseite Fachthemen - Die geplante EU-Verordnung zur Prävention und Bekämpfung des sexuellen Missbrauchs von Kindern – die sogenannte „Chatkontrolle“
www.bfdi.bund.deMaryMarasKittenBakery
in reply to Werawelt • • •".... in dieser Form"
Gar nicht!
Jackie 🍉🏳️⚧️☭
in reply to Signal • • •Germany has a very embarrassing history with privacy in some moments of its history, and it is on track to repeating them.
Never again means now.
Without privacy there is no true democracy, and without privacy the fascists will win.
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Urzl
in reply to Signal • • •Baharul Islam
in reply to Signal • • •Tuta
in reply to Baharul Islam • • •Okuna
in reply to Tuta • • •Very small parts
99,9% of users don't care
Cassandrich
in reply to Signal • • •bookworm
in reply to Cassandrich • • •@dalias These are the known lobbyists or people identified behind Chat Control:
Ylva Johansson, Thierry Breton, Monique Pariat, Catherine de Bolle, Julie Cordua, Cathal Delaney, Ruiz Perez, Alan M. Parker, Chris Cohn, Ashton Kutcher, Demi Moore, Ernie Allen, Sarah Gardner, Lily Rhodes, Maciej Szpunar, Margrethe Vestager, Margaritis Schinas, Antonio Labrador Jimenez, Douglas Griffiths, and Javier Zarzalejos.
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KRAMpus
in reply to Signal • • •Jos 🍉
in reply to Signal • • •Not the Germans again!
#Chatkontrolle
suomynona1405
in reply to Signal • • •Alex
in reply to Signal • • •idea: start remove encryption for specific users from the German government and post them online for everyone to see...
although this would need a fundamental change in Signal and it would no longer be the de-facto safe standard for secure communications nowadays.
⊥ᵒᵚ Cᵸᵎᶺᵋᶫ∸ᵒᵘ ☑️
in reply to Signal • • •this PDF could have been a web page.
#fail #a18n
Nicole Parsons
in reply to Signal • • •The people funding international state surveillance systems & the end of democracy are determined to end privacy.
gizmodo.com/peter-thiel-on-whe…
theintercept.com/2017/02/22/ho…
gizmodo.com/settlement-in-meta…
bloomberg.com/news/articles/20…
vox.com/2016/8/15/12490944/pet…
wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge…
nytimes.com/2020/01/18/technol…
theconversation.com/tech-giant…
nytimes.com/2016/08/16/opinion…
bbc.com/news/business-36395954
axios.com/2017/12/15/how-palan…
opendemocracy.net/en/palantir-…
france24.com/en/americas/20250…
thetimes.com/business-money/te…
Musk, Thiel and Bannon named in Epstein schedules released by Democrats
FRANCE 24Pater Snape FSSP
in reply to Signal • • •Arena Cops 🇺🇦✌
in reply to Signal • • •Patrick
in reply to Signal • • •Kevin Steinmetz
in reply to Signal • • •Patrick
in reply to Signal • • •Stefan
in reply to Signal • • •@oliver
econads
in reply to Stefan • • •Please, explain more.
Stefan
in reply to econads • • •What exactly, interoperability or lock-in?
@signalapp @oliver
tuban_muzuru
in reply to Signal • • •Luna chan
in reply to Signal • • •Seriously how can someone even think it's a good idea?
Julian David Murray
in reply to Signal • • •CBTA
in reply to Signal • • •Digiglimmer
in reply to Signal • • •さよなら皆さん [Hiatus]
in reply to Signal • • •Klarname
in reply to Signal • • •Sadly, liberal Germans have been forced to watch the Bavarian far-right party CSU's political plans get blocked by the German Federal Constitutional Court and the European Court of Justice for decades. This was already the case with data retention for telecommunications and the monitoring of IT devices via Trojan horses.
The Minister of Justice is against chat monitoring, but is unable to push her views through. The Chancellor is in favour of it.
#fckCSU #Merz
Sebastian Lasse
in reply to Signal • • •If anyone attends FediDay Berlin physically:
The BSI will be there too, so please speak up!
(threat-thread DE)
digitalcourage.social/@khalees…
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in reply to Signal • • •Luca🇮🇹🚜🏎️✈️ reshared this.
Harald Leithner
in reply to Signal • • •maymage
in reply to Signal • • •hotbitch
in reply to Signal • • •Okuna
in reply to Signal • • •das Netz und die Infrastruktur werden schon seit Jahren aufgebaut.
Es wird kommen
fm4.orf.at/stories/3024478/
untertauchen.info/2022/06/jede…
EU-weites Überwachungsnetz schon in der Aufbauphase
fm4.ORF.atReoneas
in reply to Signal • • •Contact MEP:
fightchatcontrol.eu/
edri.org/our-work/chat-control…
Petition: crm.edri.org/stop-scanning-me
#StopChatcontrol #chatcontrol #Chatkontrolle #surveillance #privacy #security #anonymity
Chat Control: What is actually going on? - European Digital Rights (EDRi)
European Digital Rights (EDRi)always tired
in reply to Signal • • •ilyess
in reply to always tired • • •@project1enigma I don’t think that’s a sound strategy. Breaking the law, regardless of how “unjust” it is, could result in a hefty fine that would threaten Signal’s existence.
@signalapp
zaire arcana
in reply to ilyess • • •ilyess
in reply to zaire arcana • • •@soop They could ignore it, sure. Typically the government would then order all ISPs to block access to Signal. What does that get you?
@project1enigma @signalapp
Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸
in reply to ilyess • • •@ilyess @soop @project1enigma Some governments already do that. Signal reacted by providing a simple way for as many people as possible to spin up Signal TLS Proxies on unblocked IPs.
github.com/signalapp/Signal-TL…
Signal does its very best for years even facing regimes trying to block them. Them leaving the app store fronts in said regimes is a necessary evil to protect their organisation, but it absolutely does not stop anyone from using Signal (despite increased pressure).
GitHub - signalapp/Signal-TLS-Proxy
GitHubilyess
in reply to Natasha Nox 🇺🇦🇵🇸 • • •@Natanox Yes, their proxy is amazing. VPNs and Tor are other methods to circumvent censorship. I see these workarounds as a last resort measure, though. Rather than spending time on this, we should pour our energy into keeping chat control from becoming law.
It's great that Signal has native support for a proxy, but how about email and cloud providers, or any entity that uses e2ee? Chat control could be the start of a dystopian era; I hope we don't get there.
@soop @project1enigma @signalapp
Rainer Agentic Quantum Rehak
in reply to Signal • • •Hier ein Interview als Kurzeinführung für Menschen, die neu in der Debatte sind – also auch gut zum Weiterleiten an die, die das Thema dringend verstehen sollten: weizenbaum-institut.de/news/de…
#Chatkontrolle #ChatkontrolleStoppen
Die Chatkontrolle und andere Gewissensbisse in der Informatik
Weizenbaum InstitutLaurenz0071
in reply to Signal • • •Here a good video explanation of the Max Plank Institute on how the technology of Chat Control works and what this would mean for digital communication within Europe.
nurdieruhe
in reply to Signal • • •HardenYourPrivacy
in reply to Signal • • •For your information, the United Nations is opposed to Chat Control!
Source : linkedin.com/posts/ohchr_chatc…
#ChatControl
#chatcontrol #encryption | United Nations Human Rights
www.linkedin.comOhMyGoodnas
in reply to Signal • • •Daniel Kleeblatt
in reply to Signal • • •Aron
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