"...MLS be ratified by the IETF as RFC9420.
MLS is a new encryption standard defined by the IETF, the standards body that maintains much of what makes the internet work. In the same way that Transport Layer Security... defines the way to provide encryption between users and servers, or between two different servers, MLS provides a standard way for users of a messaging service to communicate securely without servers being able to eavesdrop on their conversations."
matrix.org/blog/2023/07/a-gian…
#MLS
A giant leap forwards for encryption with MLS
Matrix, the open protocol for secure decentralised communicationsMatthew Hodgson (matrix.org)
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •MLS is the ActivityPub of chat.
(edit: nope, miles off. Doh!)
#standards #encryption #MLS
Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •The ActivityPub standardisation at W3C brought together people from at least 3 different fediverse protocol camps; OStatus (including Mastodon), Diaspora, Zot (Hubzilla), plus people from the IndieWeb. With the exception of Diaspora itself, all the represented software projects implemented AP within a few years. From all 3 protocol camps. Plus the IndieWeb was bridged in via BridgyFed.
This created what I think of as fediverse 2.0 (v1.0 being the OStatus network the name was coined for).
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Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •The MLS standardisation at the IETF also brought together people from a wide range of people. From software projects, including those in the Matrix network, Cisco (owners of Jabber, the originators of XMPP), and MLS creators Phoenix R&D (formerly at Wire). From service hosts including Signal, Wire, and Mozilla (plus a rogues gallery of corporations currently infamous for DataFarming).
All of them committed to implementing MLS. Opening up huge interoperation potential.
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Strypey
in reply to Strypey • • •Me:
> All of them committed to implementing MLS. Opening up huge interoperation potential
Well, that's what it looked like from my quick glance. I had a quick chat today with someone who knows far more about implementing decentralised chat than I do. Leaving me with the impression that it's far less significant for interop than I thought.
#MLS
Jo
in reply to Strypey • • •Strypey
in reply to Jo • • •@jomangee
> you need to be able to actually interop before it matters about Messaging Layer Security (MLS) being able to cross that interop
Ae. Turns out I misunderstood what layer this protocol works at. It's basically a replacement for using the Signal protocol, also used in Matrix (Olm/MegOlm) and XMPP (OMEMO), for E2EE on large group rooms.