Want switch to linux
Hello guys i have a qustion about which distro i should use?
I want to dual boot windows and linux
I just want a safe place away from microsoft eyes to do edit and drawing and other hobbies on my pc.
And playing some games like cs2 & 2d games
Also the distro run my wallpaper engine
Should be popular distro so if i have a problem i can ask about it
Please dont tell me linux mint because i tried it 3 times and everytime i do anything simple the distro goes off and i should re install i won't give it anymore chances
thank you 😖
Edit: thank you guys for typing your suggests. after some search i will give bazzite try and if won't work like i want. I will go with the other suggests
I really enjoyed reading all your suggests
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in reply to saltnotsugar • • •LMDE (mint sans ubuntu) user here, gaming is a dream, but sometimes a nightmare. You may need eventually to manually update the graphics card driver If you're on Nvidia, as the debian repos it pulls from are hella out of date. Otherwise, smooth sailing.
You'll likely only encounter problems on native games, Feral ports specifically seem to assume people have a libraries that they don't, so I often find myself launching their games in a terminal a million times to figure out what libraries are missing and manually link them or just copy them into the game lib folder.
tentorus
in reply to saltnotsugar • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to Deflated0ne • • •OP specifically declines to use Linux mint, per their final point in their post. As a 2 decade user who is currently using Mint, OP is right. The windows experience is so handholdey that new users often aren't familiar with even HOW to research to fix their problems. Mint, a distribution that gives you training wheels but will not hold your hand is not ideal for someone who has already broken it several times, doing activities they didn't feel were necessary to share.
OP needs an immutable distro.
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in reply to iopq • • •I get that but at this point shouldn't we get more people on this side. Like I think redhad and canonical are infinitely better than microsoft. Lesser of 2 evils and all. Who knows one day they may start using arch (btw)
Also uwuntu is a derivative of Ubuntu.
iopq
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in reply to iopq • • •IttihadChe
in reply to slacktoid • • •Linux Mint Debian Edition.
Obviously you can't completely rid yourself of all RedHat influence but Fedora is their literal upstream community testing ground and LMDE really does limit their influence heavily and that of Canonical (Ubuntu) by just building off of the more community based Debian (which Ubuntu built off of as well)
slacktoid
in reply to IttihadChe • • •IttihadChe
in reply to slacktoid • • •Standard Linux mint is is Ubuntu based, LMDE is debian based. Completely different depending on the issues they had.
Edit: but also plenty of other Debian based distros, including Debian itself would avoid direct Ubuntu (Canonical) and Fedora (RedHat) influence.
slacktoid
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in reply to iopq • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Based on your last paragraph, you might fall in the supernoob catergory. You'll want an immutable distribution, you can't break those Unless you tell it to let you break it.
As a windows user, you'll find familiarity in Fedora Kionite.
If you prefer a touchscreen oriented experience consider Fedora Silverblue.
There's a few other options on the page I'm linking, I haven't tried and therefore can't recommend either of the others.
fedoraproject.org/atomic-deskt…
Edit: my formatting was 🗑️
Edit 2, electric boogaloo:
OP in your post you state you want Wallpaper Engine to work, unfortunately, you'll have issues there. Depending on what you're trying to accomplish with wallpaper engine you may be able to do the same using KDE Plasma. I personally use a VLC command line call to enable animated wallpapers on my rig, there's not exactly a standard for it on Linux so many of the solutions you find will be clunky. Just remember if you go around messing with your xorg.conf file you need to have a backup of it so you can undo changes easily in a terminal.
You're welcome to DM me if you need assistance.
Fedora Atomic Desktops | The Fedora Project
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SpaceNoodle
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •For a more gaming-ready experience, Bazzite might suit you:
bazzite.gg/
Bazzite - The next generation of Linux gaming
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IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to SpaceNoodle • • •People seem to love bazzite, is it all its cracked up to be?
I'm happy with my lmde htpc/server/gamingrig/clusterfuck so I'm not planning on changing, but I've been in the market for a handheld gaming PC and its been on my list to try.
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in reply to hobbsc • • •I put Bazzite on an Intel n100 box I'm using as an HTPC. Super easy install and it was ready to go and working just fine very quickly. Jellyfin works really well! It really is quite incredible how far things have come since my first install of Ubuntu 14.04. Atomic could really make some headway on making Linux easy for a typical user. Wine has come a LOOOONG way help keep compatibility too.
Way better than my Ubuntu desktop. The only thing hold me back on putting an atomic distro on my desktop is not familiar with how things like Python venvs would work for development. That and I use a global hotkey program for Team speak since they haven't updated to handle Wayland global keys.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •xylol
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •As a noob I really like it. I ran popOS for almost a year, then arch for like two months. I tried fedora for like a week before arch but then decided to try bazzite on a little htpc for the living room, then put it on my main gaming desktop, now I have it on my laptop where I edit photos and videos as a hobby and its been pretty solid.
I don't really like that it wants you to use flatpaks for everything, since darktable as a flatpaks kept crashing and rapid photo downloaded didn't have a flatpak so I ended up installing stuff with the ostree rpm but rapid photo is old and not sure how to update it to current version
anguo
in reply to xylol • • •themadcodger
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •Bazzite is just kinoite / silverblue repackaged as Universal Blue, and then modified to preinstall some qol apps and settings. So if you like the original, but don't want to start with a blank slate, want the nice things out of the box, start with Bazzite/bluefin/aurora (gaming/gnome/KDE).
For people who know what they're doing/want, starting blank slate makes sense. For newbies or people who don't feel like dealing with that 🙋🏼♂️ the latter is a better recommendation imho
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in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to anguo • • •Historically yes, but this appears to not exactly be the case any longer.
Reference github.com/fedora-silverblue/i…
There does appear to be a way to do it, from a cursory glance at the above it seems that Fedora and Windows need to have separate EFI partitions, I'm not all that invested though (I don't use these distros nor do I dual boot) so I don't really care to look much deeper.
Dual boot / Better support in Anaconda for existing EFI setup · Issue #284 · fedora-silverblue/issue-tracker
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fullovellas
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •malin
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •Don't fall for the memes. Immutable distros aren't actually easier for noobs.
Let me guess, he's a fedora shill.
(reads further)
Confirmed.
All new users need to be aware of the incessant shilling fedora users engage in on these forums.
ddh
in reply to malin • • •irmoz
in reply to malin • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to irmoz • • •I don't even like fedora ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just thought it'd be easier.
irmoz
in reply to IngeniousRocks (They/She) • • •IngeniousRocks (They/She)
in reply to malin • • •Buddy I've got my pronouns in my username please don't misgender me.
Additionally, your response is needlessly hostile. You've offered no additional information and have chosen my comment to be a naysayer on presumably only because it is the top comment on the post. You've contributed nothing but vitriol to this thread.
I couldn't give two shits what distros people use, and I'm not a fucking shill. OP wanted a suggestion, I gave 4. I used tobhse Fedora because it's easy, with a large community, and with the bleeding edge release cycle the newest libraries became available more easily without enabling testing repositories or using sketchy PPAs that haven't been vetted.
If OP weren't noob, and weren't someone who has already broken a mint install three times I'd have recommended that use something Debian based or Arch based, but they are, so I didn't.
asudox
in reply to Mojtaba • • •The Next Generation Personal Desktop
fedoraproject.orgCommunist
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Relevant post I made:
A lot of people are going to recommend you mint, I honestly think mint is an outdated suggestion for beginners, I think immutability is extremely important for someone who is just starting out, as well as starting on KDE since it’s by far the most developed DE that isn’t gnome and their… design decisions are unfortunate for people coming from windows.
I don’t think we should be recommending mint to beginners anymore, if mint makes an immutable, up to date KDE distro, that’ll change, but until then, I think bazzite is objectively a better starting place for beginners.
The mere fact that bazzite and other immutables generate a new system for you on update and let you switch between and rollback automatically is enough for me to say it’s better, but it also has more up to date software, and tons of guides (fedora is one of the most popular distros, and bazzite is essentially identical except with some QoL upgrades).
How common is the story of “I was new to linux and completely broke it”? that’s not a good user experience for someone who’s just starting, it’s intimidating, scary, and I just don’t think it’s the best in the modern era. There’s something to be said about learning from these mistakes, but bazzite essentially makes these mistakes impossible.
Furthermore because of the way bazzite works, package management is completely graphical and requires essentially no intervention on the users part, flathub and immutability pair excellently for this reason.
Cinnamon (the default mint environment) doesn’t and won’t support HDR, the security/performance improvements from wayland, mixed refresh rate displays, mixed DPI displays, fractional scaling, and many other things for a very very long time if at all. I don’t understand the usecase for cinnamon tbh, xfce is great if you need performance but don’t want to make major sacrifices, lxqt is great if you need A LOT of performance, cinnamon isn’t particularly performant and just a strictly worse version of kde in my eyes from the perspective of a beginner, anyway.
I have 15 years of linux experience and am willing to infinitely troubleshoot if you add me on matrix.
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Mojtaba
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •themadcodger
in reply to Communist • • •Okay good, you also included Aurora. I agree almost completely with your previous post that mint is outdated, and an immutable is much better for someone who has no idea what they're doing. No reason to blanket recommend Bazzite, hence the aurora comment.
I'm on Bluefin though, so that's where we disagree 😏 Don't know what it is but I've never liked KDE.
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •I mean, Arch has the Arch Wiki which is very good. (I use Arch, btw.) 😸
I'm surprised Mint is giving you trouble. Where you doing something... risky? Or maybe the hardware you're running isn't very compatible?
Otherwise, a distro like VanillaOS (or any immutable distro) might be able to keep your system more stable.
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in reply to Matt • • •Cenzorrll
in reply to Mojtaba • • •What sort of "simple" things did you have trouble with in Mint?
You could try popOS, Fedora, or Ubuntu. But without knowing what you struggled with, Mint should still be the best choice of you're new. Your troubles could just be the desktop environment you picked, or enabling third party/proprietary repositories. Or they could be a legit issue that is easily fixed using a different distro.
Mojtaba
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •edel
in reply to Mojtaba • • •I have to give it that the Fedora distros are a slightly bit superior to Ubuntu variants but for those that value some degree of not favoring corporate US (IBM/Red Hat) that provides AI resources for Israel's military to do what it is doing...
Myself I tried to like Mint, I really did... but could not... not just it is old-fashioned looking but has limitations with scaling and others.
Now, I do recognize for the initiators is it great! Now, for those that find Mint ugly I recommend TuxedoOS... I find it as good as Kubuntu but without its known limitations with flatpaks. Yes, TuxedoOS was created for Tuxedo laptops but they left it open to use it with others so no problems at all and very well maintained. Now, you may want remove the Tuxedo app that they installed just to free some resources... a 10-seconds thing to do. Drawback is servers in Germany so a bit slower updates than usual for most.
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •Linux Distro made to accommodate Windows Users by being as similar as is reasonable in UI and organization: AnduinOS.
If you try it, use 1.3, as you are not an enterprise use case.
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •Keep to popular distros. I'd personally recommend Pop os or fedora. Opensuse is up there too just never clicked with me when I was a new users.
I actually have started to discourage people using Ubuntu because of forced snap packages and multiple software store GUIs. It has led to a lot more confusion for new users even though Ubuntu is supposed to be user friendly.
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in reply to themadcodger • • •Manmoth
in reply to Mojtaba • • •EndeavourOS is the best imo because it's basically arch with a minimal skin on it to aide in installation etc
I've been using it for the better part of 5 years now with no issues. I play games, self host, work etc It's great.
If you install paru you get access to the AUR which has everything under the sun ready to install.
RawHex
in reply to Mojtaba • • •The age old question. You have to understand that Linux the kernel is made in such a way that anything built on top of it will always require way too much from the user. It feels like something made from programmers for programmers, just like how UNIX was designed. No distro will be able to change that. Windows is packed with bandaids to make it behave closer to what users expect, but anything that comes from UNIX has it's focus in making the code nice, not making ordinary users happy necessarily.
So picking a distro is entirely a choice on how you wanna interact with the kernel's interfaces, but they're still the same interfaces. No pretty UI will change that.
Just make sure that the distro you choose has a mature community behind it and that packages are being actively maintained. Make sure that if you file a bug report it will get some attention. That's the only thing you should care about in a distro, everything else is flashy nonsense.
Edit: Also as you can see by the replies to my comment, Linux is kind of a cult, so beware of that.
squaresinger
in reply to RawHex • • •Android runs an only slightly modified Linux kernel, and yet the OS requires much less from the user than e.g. Windows or MacOS.
Chromebooks run a bog-standard Linux kernel and the target audience is kids.
My car's entertainment system runs a standard Linux kernel, and the UX is so cut down that PC expertise really doesn't matter when using it.
MacOS and iOS, two systems known for their ease of use, both stem from BSD, which comes from Unix.
The kernel has nothing to do with this.
In fact, the only mainstream kernel used in user-facing operating systems that doesn't "come from Unix" is Windows. Everything else is derived either from Linux or BSD, which both are derived from Unix.
There isn't even a mainstream phone OS anymore that doesn't "come from Unix".
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in reply to squaresinger • • •If you don't root your Android, you can barely do anything. The UI on Android hides all of the ugliness of the implementation and that shows up as jarring bugs, which you can do nothing about as an ordinary user. If you use the manufacturer's stock OS it's always a horrible experience as well. They also use kernels which are very far from upstream and have a ton of custom proprietary patches. That's exactly my point regarding flashy nonsense. And that's exactly what Windows does as well.
Chromebooks rely on containers and web apps, but once you need to configure your OS, good luck.
MacOS and iOS rely on the company's complete control of their hardware, OS and apps. They have the most closed system out there and rely on things not changing too much. They also expect users to pay for every little inconvenience.
I've been using Linux for plenty of years now, I'm a fan, I love the model, I love the way it's developed, but I also recognize the issues it has. I love programming and going deep in the system, but that's not what ordinary users necessarily want. That's just the reality, the kernel is not setup and documented in a way that would allow easy comprehension and configuration. If you don't have that, then what can a user do when they have to configure the OS and you always need to do that for one reason or another. Companies like Canonical tried to market a model of keeping the system stable and comprehandable, but it never worked out in practice.
squaresinger
in reply to RawHex • • •If you don't root your Android you can even run a full desktop Linux in a proot container. You can run all Android apps and Linux apps on it. Using Winlator you can even run most Windows apps and there are emulators for most systems out there. If you cann that "barely anything" you are lacking imagination.
Apparently you haven't used Chromebooks or MacOS, but you clearly misunderstand the topic at hand.
There's always a balance between configurability and stability, and every single OS, even Windows, falls somewhere on that spectrum. If you allow a user to break their system, the downside is that they can break their system.
iOS, unrooted Android and ChromeOS fall on the "less ability to break your system"-side with Windows and MacOS following rather closely, and different Linux distros are on the full spectrum in between. Immutable distros make it harder to break yous system at the cost of immediate configurability, while running Arch you can do whatever you want and you'll likely destroy your OS while doing so, if you don't know what you are doing.
Again, all of that are choices done in user-space, nothing about that comes down to the kernel. You can make any Linux distro entirely unbreakable by taking away sudo rights for the current user and making every non-temporary directories and files read-only. You can do that in 10 minutes and suddenly there's nothing the user can do to break the system. But the user also loses a lot of abilities. Again: all of that is user-space only and has nothing to do with the kernel.
And yes, there are enough stable and comprehendible Linux distros out there, but if the user has sudo rights and the constant and uncontrollable urge to destroy their system, they will find a way to do so.
malin
in reply to RawHex • • •RawHex
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •I have been using Fedora with KDE for a relatively long time and I am very satisfied. I use it as my main home and work operating system. It has proven to be very stable.
I am engaged in software development, so I use it very actively, and I am happy with it. it meets all my needs. I think You could consider Fedora.
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •Something listed in the top 10 or so on distrowatch.com/. Personally I like one of the Debian based distros.
Currently we use Ubuntu and Debian. Ubuntu would be the better of the two for beginners.
The distrowatch beginners list is: distrowatch.com/search-mobile.…
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in reply to flatbield • • •flatbield
in reply to malin • • •Because Canonical put a lot of effort into usability. Pretty much all of the popular recommended beginner distributions are Ubuntu based. Examples: Linux Mint, Ubuntu, Zorin, Elementary.
People will recommend other stuff, often that are loved by varioius enthusiasts but these may or may not be that suitable for beginners. Call me skeptical.
I use and recommend Ubuntu because it is easy to install, use, and just works. It is also widely supported and very popular. The one thing I do not like about it is the Snap focus. I would love to recommend Linux Mint but last time I used it major distribution upgrades from the GUI were not supported. Have no idea if they fixed that. Ubuntu upgrades are the click of a button. In my family there are nontechnical users and they have used it for almost 20 years just fine without much help from me.
On the other hand I use Debian if I intend to custom configure something and want a minimal install to start from. Major upgrades on Debian are not a click of a button. On the other hand Debian is not Snap based. My workstation and VPS are Debian for example.
malin
in reply to flatbield • • •How exactly does canonical make their distribution more usable than Debian?
Why?
They're the exact same as in Ubuntu...
Which is a benefit to new users. They shouldn't be conditioned to be using snaps, anyways.
flatbield
in reply to malin • • •Upgrades. To do a major upgrade on Debian you go into the command line. You first adjust the appropriate files in /etc/apt. Then you run a bunch of apt commands.
Ubuntu you are asked if you want to upgrade to a new release and just say yes.
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in reply to MolecularCactus1324 • • •Weird, mine came with Cinnamon, not Plasma
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in reply to MolecularCactus1324 • • •kirk781
in reply to MolecularCactus1324 • • •I think my first distro was Ubuntu ( but that was because everyone around me was using it only) before I finally migrated to Debian less than a year later. Mint and Ubuntu both use Debian as their base. (Mint technically uses Ubuntu as it's base but has a Debian edition as well for backup reasons).
I know Debian's problem is it's software repos(Debian Stable can be filled with older versions of software). But it can't be denied that it is rock solid (for most part), has a comparatively decent set of software in its repos and a large set of distros use it as their base.
p_kanarinac
in reply to MolecularCactus1324 • • •Probably because it's easy to get used to.
As for the looks, I'd say it looks better than Mac, Ubuntu looks best, but that's so subjective and fairly easy to change anyway.
malin
in reply to MolecularCactus1324 • • •I personally don't see much value of Mint or Ubuntu over Debian.
They all suffer from the same issue: lack of a user repository. This means any layman is going to immediately be turned off by the distro and the whole Linux experience as soon as they want to install something that isn't in their distro's repository.
Neither derivative distro can be considered 'easier' because of this. Might as well just go with Debian and cut out the middlemen.
Zweiblum
in reply to MolecularCactus1324 • • •MolecularCactus1324
in reply to Zweiblum • • •I agree. People should raise their standards… the message is if you’re switching to Linux, shouldn’t be “just be glad to have a distribution that just works.” I think we’ll need a better sales pitch if that’s the case.
I had no issues with Zorin from a “it just works” perspective and I run an NVidia GPU. And, it also looks good. Like Mint, it’s also based on Ubuntu, but without the Windows XP era UI.
Also, the UI can either be in “has a start menu” or “has a Mac dock” mode.
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •So... do it?
Now to the question which distro, honestly it does not matter YET!
You probably don't even know what a distro is (no offense) but what you did highlight clearly are the needs, namely :
... so that actually narrows things down quite a bit.
The most popular distribution are the easiet to find (I'm on Debian and SteamOS so I use Arch BTW) and that's a safe choice indeed. Playing games does not narrow things down much as most distro, if not all, do not prevent against playing game and IMHO the optimization specific to gaming are pretty much pointless in most cases.
Your edit point that you are trying a distribution already so yes, please, do go for it. I do suggest though that WHEN things go wrong, like it did with Mint, you take the time to understand WHY. This in itself will help you to either switch to another distribution and arguably more importantly what even is a distribution and finally which one of the remaining ones (if you do actually switch rather than fix) are more appropriate for you.
Finally my last recommendation is to back up your data. That's what IMHO make the difference between having fun distro hopping versus pulling hair out stressing that your last game save, or work notebooks, will not be deleted.
Have fun learning!
Mojtaba
in reply to utopiah • • •daddycool
in reply to Mojtaba • • •I'm sorry to say this, but if you can fuck up Linux Mint, you're in for a rough ride.
My suggestion is installing your distro of choice in a VM along side your primary installation and use that for testing before implementing.
Linux in general is ruthless if you make mistakes. It's tough love, but that's how masters of the craft are born.
Mojtaba
in reply to daddycool • • •daddycool
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in reply to daddycool • • •ohshit604
in reply to Mojtaba • • •I dunno, I started with Debian and then many months later learned that it was one of the harder distributions given the outdated packages.
Glad I chose Debian because Ubuntu, Linux Mint, Kali Linux, PureOS, etc are all derivatives of it.
/home/pineapplelover
in reply to Mojtaba • • •I suggest BazziteOS. I have it installed on 2 of my computers for about a year and it works great. It runs KDE and it looks similar to Windows but is much better. Also, I believe it has support for Wallpaper Engine, though I haven't tried it.
It is Fedora based and Fedora also has a sizeable community for any questions and tutorials you may have.
The reason why I recommend Bazziteos is because it comes out of the box ready for gaming, you would have steam, wine, lutris, etc installed almost instantly and ready to play.
Mojtaba
in reply to /home/pineapplelover • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Chances are that, if you do break something, it'll be on the Windows side.
Bazzite is very solid for new users as it's very convoluted to access and modify anything system related.
Having said that, if you have any intention to learn how to use Linux distros, and eventually remove Microsoft from your life, immutable distros like Bazzite will limit you dramatically, so I suggest you start with a regular "mutable" distro. Now, if your intention is just to have something that works, scape Windows every now and then, and come back to Windows, it's hard to beat an immutable distro.
/home/pineapplelover
in reply to youmaynotknow • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to /home/pineapplelover • • •Absolutely. Maybe I'm a bit biased. I can't stick to anything immutable (other than my Steam Deck, and believe me, I've tried many times), and always come back to distros I can have absolute control over.
However, I have all my employees running Silverblue (mostly because none of them even know what CLI means 🤣).
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in reply to VerseAndVermin • • •WPE is way too deep in specific windows features to be able to run on linux smoothly.
GitHub - Almamu/linux-wallpaperengine: Wallpaper Engine backgrounds for Linux!
GitHubÜbercomplicated
in reply to VerseAndVermin • • •GitHub - LGFae/swww: A Solution to your Wayland Wallpaper Woes
GitHubArdens
in reply to Mojtaba • • •ProgrammingSocks
in reply to Ardens • • •To put it another way, if it could handle windows 7 or 10 Mint should run even better.
Remember that when you're using a live USB everything will be slower because you're using a USB as your main drive too.
malin
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Reddfugee42
in reply to malin • • •Aelis
in reply to Reddfugee42 • • •(I used to be a Manjaro user)
Let's say Manjaro has a bad history and a lot of people don't take them seriously anymore and trust them even less.
At the very least it is quite a messy distro to use.
Sonalder
in reply to Mojtaba • • •ZorinOS maybe ?
Bazzite is great for gaming !
Nobara too.
Asfalttikyntaja
in reply to Mojtaba • • •youmaynotknow
in reply to Asfalttikyntaja • • •My name is none of your business, and I approve this suggestion.
For most of us using Linux distros for years, we already have a preferred distro that is highly unlikely to be Ubuntu or even Debian based, but for first-timers, I honestly believe Mint is the way to go. But seeing how mint has been a flop for you (as another poster said, it'd be great to know what went wrong) an immutable distro (like Bazzite) would fit your current needs better, but these distros are not the best way to start learning about Linux and eventually migrate from Windows entirely.
mrcleanup
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Mx. Nichole
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Honestly I suggest learning in avm first so you can do save states. I recommend doing stunting like nix or a declarative/ composable distro. Learn the new way so that your getting the tools and things that are actually being used.
Don't get me wrong it's not an easy learning curve but I think it's the better method of learning.
redfox
in reply to Mojtaba • • •lemmyuser70
in reply to Mojtaba • • •spicehoarder
in reply to Mojtaba • • •It’s 2025, if you’ve got the space to dual boot, you’ve got space for snapshots. There’s no reason not to set them up. Btrfs, ZFS, LVM, pick your poison. Disk is cheap, your time isn't.
And if “simple stuff” is breaking your system, that tells me three things:
So yeah, I will be telling you to use Mint, with at LEAST daily snapshots.
Mojtaba
in reply to spicehoarder • • •mranachi
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Sounds more like a hardware issue. Screen black, like it goes off no output? Any visual glitching first? Desktop doesn't respond? How do you know, is it sounds stop or make funny noise?
Search inside the system? Open taps? Not sure what this means
Can you restart the computer? Or will the distro not boot after this?
And this doesn't happen in Windows?
spicehoarder
in reply to mranachi • • •spicehoarder
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Okay, assuming you’re being honest, it sounds like a hardware issue. Either your RAM is corrupting, or your hard drive is prone to errors. The good news is that you have options to daily drive Linux without ending up in a situation where you have to reinstall everything from scratch.
Like I mentioned earlier, you absolutely need to be making snapshots. I'm currently running Manjiro, and I've completely borked my system like 10 times already. But when I set up my system, I made sure my main partition was BTRFS, which has allowed me to roll back easily through both the UI and in grub rescue mode.
I would also recommend that if you are going to continue to dual boot windows, make sure they're on two separate physical drives. And don't share stuff like your steam library, because windows likes to screw shit up, and steam will throw a fit if you make it read an NTFS drive on Linux.
Just don't give up, keep posting questions, and maybe even come back and post stuff like specific crash reports and system info so we can help you better. 😀
Mojtaba
in reply to spicehoarder • • •spicehoarder
in reply to Mojtaba • • •WalnutLum
in reply to Mojtaba • • •I'm not sure how you're getting wallpaper engine to work on Linux because it's not supported on anything other than windows.
Are you using Wallpaper Engine? If so you are likely going to keep having issues with your screen blanking while you try and use it, as it's not supported on Linux.
Wallpaper Engine on Steam
store.steampowered.comAnitaAmandaHuginskis
in reply to Mojtaba • • •My advice: Stick to distros and softwares that are widely used. When presented with options, tend to stick to the defaults.
Just because literally 100% is customizable in the Linux world does not mean you have to customize your system 100%.
That's my motto since 1996 when I started using Linux.
Robert Ian Hawdon
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Honestly, Linux Mint is probably the best option. Failing that, Fedora is another good option which is derived from Red Hat, it does things differently to Debian based systems like Mint and Ubuntu, but it's widely supported.
You'll need to iterate what you were doing when it stopped working, 99% of the time, it's down to human error. As someone once said:
"Unix [or Linux] will give you enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot. If you didn't think rope would do that, you should have read the man page."
Drunk & Root
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Open Source & Linux - AnduinOS
www.anduinos.comBronstein_Tardigrade
in reply to Mojtaba • • •UsoSaito
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Ulisse
in reply to Mojtaba • •Linux reshared this.
Eyedust
in reply to Mojtaba • • •mlody
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Sivecano
in reply to Mojtaba • • •IttihadChe
in reply to Sivecano • • •It's worth noting that fedora is heavily sponsored by RedHat (a subsidiary of IBM) and is the upstream testing ground for RHEL (Redhats commercial offering). RedHat also has close ties to Israels government and it's military.
This is a huge dealbreaker for someone like me so I feel it's necessary to mention.
lumpybag
in reply to IttihadChe • • •Not to get into politics but the whole point of Linux is about being open and used by anyone from anywhere. I wouldn’t be surprised to see various parts of the Linux kernel, drivers, etc developed/funded by people from Israel, Russia, and many many other countries.
Edit: the point of this message, this type of approach to your OS choice will ultimately result in throwing your PC in the trash if you dig deep enough.
IttihadChe
in reply to lumpybag • • •There is a vast difference between a community driven project like Debian taking small contributions from people who happen to be in Israel/incorporating some things from RedHat after lots of vetting and diluting and Fedora being a direct upstream testing ground for RedHat who are the primary contributors and maintainers.
No, this type of approach will not lead to you throwing your PC in the trash, it will simply lead to you being more aware of your software and how it functions,what it contributes to, and what contributes to it. Which is a good thing imo.
For example, I use LMDE. Yes, there are most definitely contributions from redhat in my machine. the difference is between
RedHat engineers -> Fedora.
And
RedHat engineers -> Fedora -> Upstream Project acceptance-> Debian -> LMDE.
I'm not saying you need to stop using Fedora. But everyone draws a line somewhere and I'm simply making my knowledge on this known for people who's line may be in a similar place to mine.
lumpybag
in reply to IttihadChe • • •I’m sorry to inform you but Ubuntu is Debian based and is very
much used by governments around the world. IMO, the line your drawing is squiggly with breaks in between. As I stated before, your opinion contradicts the entire ethos of Linux and if one uses a Fedora based distribution it means little to nothing politically.
You’re lying to yourself if you don’t think Debian is in direct benefit of the engineering work sponsored/paid for by IBM, Canonical, Google, AWS, Intel, AMD, and many other massive enterprises.
darkmogool
in reply to Mojtaba • • •TheMagpie
in reply to darkmogool • • •IttihadChe
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Linux Mint Debian Edition.
You say not to suggest mint, but you most probably used an Ubuntu based Mint so that doesn't count.
nomade420
in reply to Mojtaba • • •For gaming, I think it comes packed with most of the required things so imo, try Bazzite.
Also, linux mint it's very easy to use, fi you do something simple and you need to reinstall the distro, maybe something was done wrong from the beginning.
Mirokhodets
in reply to Mojtaba • • •krolden
in reply to Mojtaba • • •Aurora - The Linux-based ultimate workstation
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in reply to Mojtaba • • •mazzilius_marsti
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