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It stuns me however that it had to come to this, before sentiment flipped, when there's been so many previous examples of the same kind of disrespect.

To be fair, it's not so much the US as a whole (the majority do not agree with the administration), but Trump and his fascist pack.

I see this as permission finally to do our own thing. If we start self-hosting our own cloud services, then we can tell them to go pound sand when the US inevitably starts to whine about the current account deficit this and other European sovereignty actions will cause.

No hard feelings from me. Without the US resupplying Ukraine through the first three years, they would've run out of munitions.

@Randahl Fink I am still hopeful that once his term ends things will return to normal, at least to a certain extent. After all, there's a lot of bad stuff going out in the world right now and democracies gotta stick together to counter them (if the US will remain a democracy, that is).

But I do share this feeling of uncertainty and distrust, even as a Romanian (where us, Romanians, have been more sympathetic towards the US, even during the communist regime). We literally negotiated a visa waiver agreement, it was all set to start in march, last year. Then Trump shat on everything. Then he decided it would be such a wise idea to reduce the number of soldiers, even though there's a war going on right across our border.

I'll start to buy more local and European going forward, at least for the time being.

Maybe a third of them get it, another third think this is what they want because they are in a cult. They don't get that it ends with them drinking purple Kool-aide for their leader.

The final third are in some ways most deplorable - they may get it they don' t care as long as they can afford gas and Combo Meals at the drive through.

This is what 50+ years of underfunding education does.

Peace.

@Tarnport Sure, not letting anyone of the hook 😃

There are plenty of people to blame both here and there, but I prefer to point to the root actor which is Trump, as it is.
Not sure how productive use of time it is to fight between ourselves.

I think it is a lot for Americans to process, especially the significant majority of them who are not engaged in global affairs. Canadians very much relate to and sympathise with what Denmark is going through right now. The feelings of betrayal and anger and frustration and loss of trust are with respect to the USA are PROFOUND.

I don't think many Americans, regardless of their political leanings, really do understand gow we, and increasingly the rest of the world, perceive their country.

NOT THE PEOPLE...but their country. We mostly feel sorry for the people of the USA.

But they MUST know this: clobbering the GOP in the midterms will not make it better. Electing a new president will not make it better. Y'all elected a FASCIST regime that is rapidly descending into totalitarianism.

Carney is right. This world order is over, and it will take decades for relations with the USA to find a new normal and it will NEVER be the old normal again. Voting won't be enough to fix this it's only a start.

My take is that Tiels / Musks accelerationist agenda which Vance and Trump are merely executing, will be far more harmful than hitler..

Hitler "only" wanted to kill jews, darks, gays and cripples. Accelerationism wants the same plus everyone else who isn't a billionaire. It seeks a world of absolute societal separation: either abject poverty because you're sub human, or the few who own all that exists to own.

Public seriousness is nowhere near where it should be. They've gamed us.

It's the same in Canada and I fear the only way for the US to recover is with extreme measures.

Mass executions.

Trump and his entire administration have to go. The leadership in both houses have to go. State level Republicans who let him on the ballot have to go.

So many people have to go that the next Trump-like person to rise will be killed by their own party to protect they own lives.

It's the only way I will trust the US again and I've talk to many who agree.

and it just gets worse.
In Australia we wake up every morning wondering what stupidity has erupted from the mouth of that poisonous moron. Todays it is this:
aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/23/f…

The parallels with Hitler are clear. The world must unite against that manipulative, malevolent, ignorant narcissist. Your views are shared by all nations that once looked at the US as a friend.
#worldagainsttrump

UK’s Starmer slams Trump over ‘insulting’ Afghanistan comments

Trump’s comments on NATO allies unlikely to smooth relations as tensions linger after Greenland tariff threats.

^{Al Jazeera}

I don't know if Americans realize what happened between the US and Denmark.

No matter whom I listen to, the feeling is the same: Our bilateral relationship is dead.

That is not just the case in Denmark, I can accept Americans citizens, always have done.

The government has been evil for too many years to count, now Europe, at least most of it, is waking up to the fact.

GET US TROOPS OUT OF EUROPE
They are a danger to our safety not an asset.

I appreciate the comments in this thread. It solidifies, even if only anecdotally, the on-the-ground anger that I wasn't sure that Europeans were feeling. As they should. I just wish the leaders would act and isolate the disease following Mark Carney's sober assessment.

Some of us knew everything was over the night of the election (and before it, if this unthinkable present came true). European leaders should have known it too. I hope for the world they're at that point now.

It's not just Denmark — it's all of Western Europe!

Trump has torn the USA out of modern Western societies(a fact that's been clear since March 2025).
The USA _was_ the heart of modern Western societies.

This vacuum has yet to be filled; I have absolutely no idea where we are heading.

Even if Trump dies within the next year and if Vance blows up the rest and MAGA implodes, everything that happened last year — and is still ongoing — will shape the next decades.

This is a fact I am fully aware of, and it will shape the rest of my life...

@Tarnport I don't doubt it.

But I also don't think that if it hadn't been Trump, it would have been somebody else. Very few would have had the luck AND the skills to turn whatever it was into the force it is now, actively eroding the democratic defenses that should have prevented this outcome.

And right now, if we are on the brink of "war", we're on the brink of "war" with Trump and his administration, not the American people.

But everything you said is true as well.

Much like the situation in Russia, many citizens remain unaware of the profound damage their leadership is inflicting on the world – both in terms of tangible destruction and the lasting stain on global perception. These are wounds that will take decades to heal.

Germans, in particular, may still recall the weight of such a legacy, having faced the harsh reality of being held accountable for the actions of their ancestors.

Canada has gone through a similar transformation. It started with talks of annexation and 51st state rhetoric a year ago.

Now their politicians are actively calling for the province of Alberta to break off and join the US.

edmonton.citynews.ca/2026/01/2…

'We should let them come down into the U.S.': Bessent weighs in on Alberta separatism

U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent commented on the separatist movement in Alberta today — making him the highest-ranking member of the Trump administration to weigh in on the province’s politics.

^{Jessica Barile (CityNews Edmonton)}

Nor should it be. Many idiots think we need to find a way to 'work with' Nazis who want to destroy everything. We stupidly keep giving assholes like the slime comprising America's GOP a seat at the table when they've made clear they'll devour everything and kill others to do so.

No one should forgive the United States. NO ONE.

Germany has recovered well* and I'd be surprised if Denmark did not have a good relationship with the current German nation.

Time will tell if the USA becomes more isolated and the next North Korea or if we recover and rebuild and become the next (post-WWII) Germany.

*notwithstanding recent ADF activities (sadly far-right groups are springing up everywhere.)

Unfortunately, I believe that most people in the USA don't know what is going on in the relationship between the USA and Europe. If they have an inkling, they probably don't know most of it.

Americans that are just watching regular news and are not actively looking for neutral information... are inundated with propaganda about the greatness of Trump.

Case in point the recent Fox News coverage of Trump at Davos where he soundly defeated the EU.... ... .. 😑

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hear the same in Belgium (center of the EU), less so as we weren't the direct victim, but before nobody would talk bad against US.

Now everyone call them Lazy, Traitor etc

The rest of the world is only now learning what #Democrats have known for decades:

#Republicans can't be trusted.

It is not only your bilateral relationship, it's that of all (former) U.S. Western allies. First, because we are not indifferent to what happens to our friends and allies and secondly because we're in that together and whatever this regime does to you it will also eventually do to us.

And that's the appalling part: not only don't they realise the damage they caused in their relationship with the Danes, but they even don't see the damage it did on their relationship with the free world.

I don't know what the future holds (no one does, of course), but it will take a long time and a lot of hard work to repair all the damage that Trump's United States is doing to international relations. Given that it will be possible at all.

#USA #Trump #Europe #Denmark #Greenland #Canada #politics #peace #internationallaw