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I’ve been pretty disappointed with #DuckDuckGo search results lately and I’m thinking about giving #Kagi another try. Any of you folks still using it?
Note: I’m not looking for recommendations of other search engines, so please don’t comment if you’re recommending one. I’m only interested in feedback about Kagi at the moment. Thanks 🙏
Back in the late '90s I registered / paid for a few programs for the Apple Newton with Kagi, one of the early payment processors. I hadn't much thought about them since.
On IRC, I just overheard that there is some paid search engine called Kagi, at the same URL.
But, what happened to the Kagi I knew? A little digging revealed that it did not end well for the beleaguered company headed by Kee Nethery.
Kagi Shuts Down After Falling Prey to Fraud (article dated 2016)
"The news was as sad as it was unexpected. Kagi, one of the earliest digital commerce companies and long a favorite of many Mac shareware developers, has shut down as of 31 July 2016, just shy of 22 years in business."
The venerable digital commerce company Kagi, which has been providing payment processing and shopping cart services to Mac developers since 1994, has ceased operations after an unsuccessful attempt to work off debt incurred by supplier fraud.
Welcome to Kagi, the paid search engine full of surprises, which today entered the Fediverse! lemmy.world/post/19393094 submitted by cybersecurity to fediverse16 points | 19 commentsWelcome to Kagi, the paid search engine full of surprises, which today entered the Fediverse! @fediverse @kagihq is the very interesting project for a paid search engine, without tracers and with an accuracy in identifying results such as to exclude all Google spam. Those who believe that #Kagi’s costs are
Diamo il benvenuto a Kagi, il motore di ricerca a pagamento e pieno di sorprese, che oggi è entrato nel Fediverso!@Le Alternative@Kagi HQ è l'interessantissimo progetto per un motore di ricerca a pagamento, senza traccianti e con un'accuratezza nell'individuazione dei risultati tale da escludere tutto lo spam di Google.Chi crede che i costi di #Kagi siano troppo elevati, dovrebbe riflettere su un [share author='Poliverso - notizie dal Fediverso ⁂' profile='https://poliverso.org/profile/notizie' avatar='https://poliverso.org/photo/681738843665a7dc465b237105770229-5.png?ts=1705499815' link='https://poliverso.org/display/0477a01e-1966-d821-564a-4d1220612809' posted='2024-09-04 08:59:02' guid='0477a01e-1966-d821-564a-4d1220612809' message_id='https://poliverso.org/objects/0477a01e-1966-d821-564a-4d1220612809']
@Kagi HQ è l'interessantissimo progetto per un motore di ricerca a pagamento, senza traccianti e con un'accuratezza nell'individuazione dei risultati tale da escludere tutto lo spam di Google.
Chi crede che i costi di #Kagi siano troppo elevati, dovrebbe riflettere su un piccolo dettaglio: se Google lascia fare "gratis" tutte quelle ricerche, chi paga quei costi? La risposta potrebbe sembrare semplice: "gli inserzionisti".
Eppure questa sarebbe una risposta incompleta: come dire che la pioggia è causata dalle nuvole!
In realtà quei costi li pagano gli utenti, facendosi mungere e lasciando che Google estragga il loro "valore", un po' come nella human farm di Matrix...
In ogni caso siamo davvero contenti che un servizio come quello di Kagi, efficace e rispettoso della privacy degli utenti, sia approdato qui nel #Fediverso
New note by cybersecurity poliverso.org/display/0477a01e… Welcome to Kagi, the paid search engine full of surprises, which today entered the Fediverse! mastodon.social/@kagihq/113074…@Fediverse@Kagi HQ is the very interesting project for a paid search engine, without tracers and with an accuracy in identifying results such as to exclude all Google spam.Those who believe that #Kagi's costs are too high, should reflect on a small detail: if Google lets all [share author='Cybersecurity & cyberwarfare' profile='https://poliverso.org/profile/cybersecurity' avatar='' link='https://poliverso.org/display/0477a01e-1166-d822-dfb5-c9a516396885' posted='2024-09-04 09:05:35' guid='0477a01e-1166-d822-dfb5-c9a516396885' message_id='https://poliverso.org/objects/0477a01e-1166-d822-dfb5-c9a516396885']
@Kagi HQ is the very interesting project for a paid search engine, without tracers and with an accuracy in identifying results such as to exclude all Google spam.
Those who believe that #Kagi's costs are too high, should reflect on a small detail: if Google lets all those searches be done "for free", who pays those costs? The answer might seem simple: "advertisers".
Yet this would be an incomplete answer: like saying that rain is caused by clouds!
In reality, those costs are paid by users, by being milked and letting Google extract their "value", a bit like in the human farm in Matrix...
@Kagi HQ is the very interesting project for a paid search engine, without tracers and with an accuracy in identifying results such as to exclude all Google spam.
Those who believe that #Kagi's costs are too high, should reflect on a small detail: if Google lets all those searches be done "for free", who pays those costs? The answer might seem simple: "advertisers".
Yet this would be an incomplete answer: like saying that rain is caused by clouds!
In reality, those costs are paid by users, by being milked and letting Google extract their "value", a bit like in the human farm in Matrix...
Hello, Fediverse! We're Kagi, and we're on a mission to create a friendlier, more human-centric internet that has the users' best interest in mind.
Our core product is a search engine that is ad-free, tracking-free, and fully supported by our users. We've worked hard to deliver a high-quality, fast, and reliable search experience without compromising user privacy: kagi.com/
@Kagi HQ è l'interessantissimo progetto per un motore di ricerca a pagamento, senza traccianti e con un'accuratezza nell'individuazione dei risultati tale da escludere tutto lo spam di Google.
Chi crede che i costi di #Kagi siano troppo elevati, dovrebbe riflettere su un piccolo dettaglio: se Google lascia fare "gratis" tutte quelle ricerche, chi paga quei costi? La risposta potrebbe sembrare semplice: "gli inserzionisti".
Eppure questa sarebbe una risposta incompleta: come dire che la pioggia è causata dalle nuvole!
In realtà quei costi li pagano gli utenti, facendosi mungere e lasciando che Google estragga il loro "valore", un po' come nella human farm di Matrix...
In ogni caso siamo davvero contenti che un servizio come quello di Kagi, efficace e rispettoso della privacy degli utenti, sia approdato qui nel #Fediverso
Hello, Fediverse! We're Kagi, and we're on a mission to create a friendlier, more human-centric internet that has the users' best interest in mind.
Our core product is a search engine that is ad-free, tracking-free, and fully supported by our users. We've worked hard to deliver a high-quality, fast, and reliable search experience without compromising user privacy: kagi.com/
* I've started using Kagi as a paid alternative to DuckDuckGo / SearXNG and I'm really quite pleased.
Feels strange to pay for search but the results are consistently high quality.
Happy to support a business model built around providing a service to paying users over one that surveils me to provide a service to advertisers.
* Transition to Proton for email is nearly complete. Here's how I did it:
0) create proton account and poke around 1) aggressively unsubscribe from any emails I didn't actually care about (as they come in) 2) make a list of the top accounts that were most important to migrate (eg bank, newsletters I actually read, etc) 3) work the list 4) set up folder/tag filters for proton (it doesn't have a magic inbox auto-sort for important emails feature like gmail, so I had to put in some logic myself to make sure important stuff doesn't get buried under my like 300 newsletter subscriptions) 5) occasionally check gmail for accounts I missed 6) enjoy
Is there anything like #DEC #AltaVista today? I'd pay money to find a web search engine that doesn't ignore my quoted strings and insists on showing partial matches. #DuckDuckGo doesn't even put full matches at the top.
I am currently testing a #Kagi subscription. It looks promising, but we'll see.
The only one I know of that you can pay to use is #Kagi, but that is an #AI company from the very beginning.
I've been having good luck with #DuckDuckGo for a few years now, and ever since Google #enshittified/nerfed their search results, I no longer fall back to google for hard searches.
@Mojeek is absolutely worth a try, and my good friend @amin created #clew (clew.se) which is an open-culture-and-fediverse-first search engine that's definitely worth trying!!
- Yandex and Baidu: these are based in countries with strong Internet filtering (see "Government Internet filtering in practice" in v-dem.net/data_analysis/MapGra… )
@andreagrandi @adorabilis @joe_vinegar yes, #kagi is really good EXCEPT the unwanted, unnecessary carbon spewing #ai which they seem to be leaning on more and more. Thinking of canceling my subscription.
Still early days, but I'm liking #Stract ... a new stand-alone search engine being developed by one person and (last I heard) run on a server in his basement.
#404Media also just published an article extolling a paid SE called #Kagi ... not sure I'm "there" yet (paying for search), but it sounds promising.
Great stuff as always from @pluralistic. I like the idea behind #Kagi, but my only issue is signing up for another $10/month service. I have a finite pool of money and there are only so many things I can spend it on. :/ pluralistic.net/2024/04/04/tea…
I don't want "regularly remind people that #Kagi is a bunch of libertarians" to be my job, but as people are currently talking about them more than usual, and many seem to not know about it, let me link to my thread from January about it:
In short, when asked to not collaborate with cryptocurrency-powered, homophobe-led company Brave, Kagi's CEO responded with things like "Politics finding its way into tech is one of the reason we do not have innovation any more."
So #Kagi is now partnering with #Brave, i.e. the company of Brendan Eich, who has been CEO at Mozilla for eleven days before he had to leave due to massive criticism of his homophobic views. Brave's most well-known product is a browser with its own cryptocurrency, co-designed by Eich.
A feedback post asking Kagi to reconsider has been closed by Kagi's founder Vladimir Prelovac because "Considering company x founder political views is not a factor in [their] evaluation".
This will search the IRC channel archives, as well as the bug-guix, info-guix, help-guix, and guix-devel archives, as well as the manual (though the latter does not seem to be showing up as a result?).
This is really starting to show how me powerful custom lenses can be
This lens has actually proven to be awesome. I ran into an issue woth trying to run binaries compiled against a foreign distro, and I was getting an error saying “no such file or directory” with the binary itself, even though it existed and was marked as executable.
This problem is kind of hard to search for normally, because it is hard to drill down to the specific issue related to Guix. Searching for:
!guix “no such file or directory”
(with quotes) instantly yields actually useful results, and the query itself isn’t even really descriptive about what’s going on.
If you use #Kagi I highly recommend making a custom lens for software that you use like your operating system, and limiting it to sources that you find trustworthy and relevant.
I'm sorry, but if your company's slogan is "humanize the web", you can't be doing business with someone who dehumanizes others for who they love.
Vlad argues that Brave's API improves the quality of search results, and "providing the best search in the world is what people pay us to do".
Maybe. But making sure that my money doesn't go to Brave is way more important to me than slight improvements to search. If that means I'll have to delete my #Kagi account, I will do so, without hesitation.
So #Kagi is now partnering with #Brave, i.e. the company of Brendan Eich, who has been CEO at Mozilla for eleven days before he had to leave due to massive criticism of his homophobic views. Brave's most well-known product is a browser with its own cryptocurrency, co-designed by Eich.
A feedback post asking Kagi to reconsider has been closed by Kagi's founder Vladimir Prelovac because "Considering company x founder political views is not a factor in [their] evaluation".
