ChatGPT Mostly Source Wikipedia; Google AI Overviews Mostly Source Reddit
A study from Profound of OpenAI's ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews and Perplexity shows that while ChatGPT mostly sources its information from Wikipedia, Google AI Overviews and Perplexity mostly source their information from Reddit.
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ChatGPT Mostly Source Wikipedia; Google AI Overviews Mostly Source Reddit
A study from Profound of OpenAI's ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews and Perplexity shows that while ChatGPT mostly sources its information from Wikipedia, Google AI Overviews and Perplexity mostly source their information from Reddit.
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The size of the riot doesn’t matter what matters is that LA County police plus the city and the fire department had the situation well in hand Trump is using this is an excuse to use the military to take control.
Makes me sick

It would be smaller if the police and federal government stop shooting at press and nonviolent protestors and making them move around.
It only gets violent when the aggressors(cops) become violent.
BBC: China's electric cars are cheaper, but at what cost? 🤣
China's electric cars are cheaper, but is there a deeper cost?
The future for EVs will inevitably involve China. But where does that leave the UK and Europe markets – and what of the questions around national security?Theo Leggett (BBC News)
Rep. Moulton says many Marine junior officers are opposed to LA deployment
Rep. Moulton says many Marine junior officers are opposed to LA deployment | WBUR News
U.S. Rep. Seth Moulton joins WBUR's Morning Edition to share his thoughts on the growing military presence in Los Angeles amid protests over immigration arrests.Tiziana Dearing (WBUR)
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Then disobey the unlawful order.
Is this whole nation just adverse to taking any action? I'm constantly hearing people complain, then do absolutely fuck all.
When analog restoration makes the past feel too real
Original text below by @versiqcontent@moist.catsweat.com
Lately I have been reflecting on how powerful old photos can become when they are carefully brought back to life. Not because of any specific image, but because of the strange feeling they create. You scan an old photo, adjust a few things, and suddenly it feels like the person is right there, alive and present.It makes you pause. This is not just an old picture. This is memory coming back with full force.
I found a short article that expresses this feeling really well. It talks about how youth in vintage photos can feel unexpectedly modern and how that changes the way we look at the past.
Curious if anyone else here has felt something similar while working with old family pictures or film.
Man impersonating ICE agent tied woman up during business robbery in the Mayfair section of Philadelphia
Man impersonating ICE agent tied woman up during business robbery in Mayfair
A man impersonating a law enforcement officer tied up and robbed a woman at a business in Mayfair.6abc Digital Staff (6abc Philadelphia)
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US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’Joseph Gedeon (The Guardian)
Israel deports Greta Thunberg after seizing Madleen, the ship she was on | AP News (2025-06-11)
Israel deports Greta Thunberg after seizing Madleen, the ship she was on | AP News (2025-06-11)apnews.com/article/thunberg-de…
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Also a video on Youtube --> youtube.com/live/Hvios9GF4CY>> Speaking upon arrival in Paris en route to her home country of Sweden, Thunberg called for the release of the other activists who were detained aboard the Madleen...
>> ...The activists were held separately and some had trouble accessing lawyers, she added.
>> Asked why she agreed to deportation, she said, “Why would I want to stay in an Israeli prison more than necessary?”
>> Thunberg called on supporters to ask their governments “to demand not only humanitarian aid being let into Gaza but most importantly an end to the occupation and an end to the systemic oppression and violence that Palestinians are facing on an everyday basis.”..
#Madleen #EndOccupation #StopGenocide @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel
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[Patch Notes] 0.2.1 Hotfix 2
0.2.1 Hotfix 2
- Fixed a CPU performance issue affecting a wide range of players.
This fix is client-side and requires restarting your client to receive the fix. It's not yet deployed on consoles but will be later today.
Early Access Patch Notes - 0.2.1 Hotfix 2 - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
[Announcement] Path of Exile: Secrets of the Atlas Item Filter Information
Announcements - Path of Exile: Secrets of the Atlas Item Filter Information - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
Labour’s Centrism Is a Dead End
In an effort to appeal to the median voter, Britain’s prime minister, Keir Starmer, has accepted the Right’s talking points on immigration and economics. This experiment has been a disaster for Labour’s popularity.
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Investors Are Pressing UnitedHealth Group to Deny More Care
UnitedHealth Group’s investors have profited from its sky-high coverage denial rates. Now, as the company faces mounting public pressure to approve more patient care, they are suing to stop the insurer from changing its “corporate practices.”
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Crypto Owners May Get Priority in the Event of Bank Failures
The US Senate is poised to pass a financial deregulation bill ensuring that when a bank goes out of business, the savings of cryptocurrency owners would be made whole before those of other bank customers.
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China’s Grip on an Obscure Rare Earth Metal Threatens the West’s Militaries
China’s Grip on an Obscure Rare Earth Metal Threatens the West’s Militaries
China produces the entire world’s supply of samarium, a rare earth metal that the United States and its allies need to rebuild inventories of fighter jets, missiles and other hardware.Keith Bradsher (The New York Times)
NYTrash always supporting imperialism, capitalism, fascism, etc.
Which is actually more threatening: a genocidal military empire or withholding minerals from a genocidal military empire? jfc.
Texas Governor Will Deploy National Guard to Immigration Protests
Texas Governor Will Deploy National Guard to Immigration Protests
Gov. Greg Abbott, a staunch supporter of President Trump’s immigration agenda, is the first governor to call on the National Guard as protests spread to multiple cities.Yan Zhuang (The New York Times)
Tesla customers in France sue over brand becoming 'extreme right'
Around 10 French clients with leases on Teslas are suing the US carmaker, run by Elon Musk, because they consider the vehicles to be "extreme-right" symbols, the law firm representing them said on Wednesday.
Tesla customers in France sue over brand becoming 'extreme right'
Around 10 French clients with leases on Teslas are suing the US carmaker, run by Elon Musk, because they consider the vehicles to be "extreme-right" symbols, the law firm representing them said on Wednesday.RFI
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But also, please use deodorant and stop being so rude to American visitors in paris. I get that a lot of us are shitty tourists, but some of us are just regular people who are there for work (and not paid as well as you'd think to be there for that work).
Edit: said France when I meant Paris cause I'm a stupid American ;)
I mean I can relate.
I sold my car at loss because I couldn't abide the fascist shit he was flinging around everywhere.
Despite loving the car itself, I couldn't love myself owning it and being a moving advertisement for him.
I still hate that I gave money to fund a person's decline into being a drug addled, woman hating, Russia supporting, stingy-assed, election rigging, right wing megalomaniac.
Tesla customers in France sue over brand becoming 'extreme right'
Around 10 French clients with leases on Teslas are suing the US carmaker, run by Elon Musk, because they consider the vehicles to be "extreme-right" symbols, the law firm representing them said on Wednesday.
Tesla customers in France sue over brand becoming 'extreme right'
Around 10 French clients with leases on Teslas are suing the US carmaker, run by Elon Musk, because they consider the vehicles to be "extreme-right" symbols, the law firm representing them said on Wednesday.RFI
Speaker Mike Johnson suggests California Governor should be ‘tarred and feathered’
Mike Johnson suggests Gavin Newsom should be ‘tarred and feathered’
House speaker said the California governor is ‘a participant, an accomplice’ in the city’s ongoing civil unrestEdward Helmore (The Guardian)
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Is addressing anti-Black racism in Canada still a policy priority?
Five years ago, on May 25, 2020, Derek Chauvin murdered George Floyd in the United States and set off international protests against anti-Black racism and police violence. This was supposed to be a turning point in the fight against racism. Institutional leaders across Canada pledged to address anti-Black racism. It began with statements of solidarity that morphed into task forces, initiatives and strategic plans which permeated almost every sector and level of government. The federal government has since committed $45 million to an anti-racism strategy, which promises to focus on how anti-Black racism and the unequal treatment of Black people is ingrained in our society. As well, nearly 50 universities and colleges have committed to promoting the academic flourishing of Black students, staff and faculty by signing what’s known as the Scarborough Charter. And yet, as hostility against equity, diversity and inclusion (EDI) gains momentum and spreads across Canada — and as a full-blown EDI-backlash is dismantling civil rights throughout the U.S. — Black Canadian scholars are growing increasingly fearful that these minimal commitments are being abandoned. The electoral platform of the Conservative Party of Canada was rife with dog-whistle rhetoric about “ending wokeism” and even though the party ultimately did not form government, the constituency for a return to explicit and continual institutional discrimination is growing by the day. Moreover, the return of Parliament may mean a resumption of hearings in the House of Commons about the criteria for awarding federal funding for research excellence in Canada. The hearings have largely focused on claims by university faculty called as witnesses that the criteria related to research funding for social and natural sciences, humanities, engineering and health are unfair as they seek to address extensive inequities in funding competitions. Multiple witnesses, without concrete evidence, accused recent EDI initiatives meant to support women, racialized minorities and other equity-seeking groups of lowering standards of research. The hearings gave voice to easily debunked, yet often-heard rhetoric pitting diversity and research excellence against each other. These arguments suggest that an emphasis on equity “divert(s) attention” from the quality of projects or equates EDI considerations to a “religion” where being a white man is an original sin. The orientation of the new government towards economic priorities may mean that committees and hearings such as these veer even further away from equity-oriented work.
Is addressing anti-Black racism in Canada still a policy priority?
Black scholars warn that post-2020 equity promises are unraveling as Canada faces an anti-EDI backlash and rising political hostility.ekhoury (Policy Options)
Feddit.cl cumple dos años!
Hoy se cumple el segundo año desde la creación de Feddit.cl 🎉
Pueden ver el mensaje del año acá
La típica estadística de los usuarios que participan en c/chile está un poco difícil este año, ya que un post trajo mucha interacción de otros lados y tenemos 135 usuarios semanales (lo cual claramente se va a desinflar como entre 35-50 que es lo normal de esa comunidad). Eso no quita que el core de usuarios se ha mantenido constante, a pesar del desempeño de la instancia o la falta de nichos.
Que más puedo decir que agradecer a todos los que participan y colaboran con un posteo, un comentario o un cafecito.
Tal vez lo más interesante de este año son las mejoras en la instancia, lo que provocó una mejora en Feddit.cl y con ello ya casi ni se ven los típicos errores 504 que plagaron el primer año de Feddit.cl.
Siento que han estado llegando usuarios más allá de la migración masiva que hubo cuando se creó esto, y eso no deja de ser algo bonito al ver que Feddit.cl va tomando forma propia. Quien sabe como estarán las cosas el año que viene, pero ya vendrá su posteo anual (:
Solo me queda decir: gracias!
Which Video Game was most influential on you as a child, and why?
I saw this Lemmy post, but a huge list of games with no discussion isn't very interesting! Let's talk about why the games that influenced us had such a big impact - how they affected us as people.
For me, it was the PC game Creatures. It's a life simulation game featuring cute little beings called 'Norns' which you raise and teach.
You can almost think of it like a much cuter predecessor to The Sims, but which claimed to actually "simulate" their brains.
As a thirteen-year-old it was the first game that made me want to go online and seek out more info. What I discovered was a community of similar-interest nerds hanging out on IRC chat, and it felt like for the first time in my life I had "found my people" - others who weren't just friends, but whom I really resonated with.
I learned web development (PHP at the time!) so I could make a site for the game, which became the foundation for my job in software engineering.
And through that group I also discovered the Furry community, which was a wild ride in itself.
So yeah, Creatures. Without that game, I think I'd have become quite a different person.
Creatures: The Albian Years on Steam
Explore the enchanting world of Albia and discover the amazing virtual lifeforms called Norns. The Norns in Creatures display real feelings from hunger and pain to frustration and fear.store.steampowered.com
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I think Warcraft III, it built a certain mixture of gameplay and lore that one way of another shaped all the games I regrettably sunk way too many hours into:
- World of Warcraft
- League of Legends
- Dota
I would say Shufflepack which made me into a kid that wanted to played videogames all the time, but I feel that has not "influenced" me much, and any other title would have had the same effect.
Meta is under investigation for a privacy violation called localhost tracking.
“Localhost tracking” explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
You just can't finish off Zuckerberg.Jorge García Herrero (Zero Party Data)
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You’re not affected if (and only if)
- You access Facebook and Instagram via the web, without having the apps installed on your phone
- You browse on desktop computers or use iOS (iPhones)
- You always used the Brave browser or the DuckDuckGo search engine on mobile
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Poll suggests half of Canadians believe Israel is committing genocide in Gaza
Poll suggests half of Canadians believe Israel is committing genocide in Gaza
OTTAWA — A new poll suggests that nearly half of Canadians believe Israel is committing genocide in Gaza almost two years after the current conflict began.Sarah Ritchie, The Canadian Press (Coast Reporter)
Irish pro-Palestine activist set to be deported from Israel
Irish pro-Palestine activist set to be deported from Israel
Máire ní Mhurchú, also known as 'D' Murphy (70), is to return to her home in Swansea, WalesHannah McCarthy (The Irish Times)
Gov. Greg Abbott to deploy Texas National Guard in anticipation of protests
Gov. Greg Abbott to deploy Texas National Guard in anticipation of protests
"Texas will not tolerate the lawlessness we have seen in Los Angeles, " Gov. Greg Abbott said ahead of planned protests this week in Texas, including one in San Antonio.Tristan Maglunog and Kevin Shalvey (ABC13 Houston)
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How To: Organize a Neighborhood Popular Assembly
A guide from the Black Rose Anarchist Federation about how to organize a popular assembly.This is a basic guide on how and why to build structures for decision making and collective action at the neighborhood level, what we call popular assemblies. We emphasize the need for popular assemblies to be rooted in a defined geographic area and aimed at organizing the people who live, work, or stay there to develop the power to confront social problems together.
This guide draws directly on knowledge and experience of past experiments in building apopular assemblies.
How To: Organize a Neighborhood Popular Assembly
A guide from the Black Rose Anarchist Federation about how to organize a popular assembly. This is a basic guide on how and why to build structures for decision making and collective action at the...It's Going Down
Minnesota’s Labor Movement is Demanding an End to ICE Raids
On Monday, union members and leaders gathered at over 30 actions across the United States, calling for the release of SEIU California president David Huerta and an end to workplace raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). On Friday last week, federal agents detained Huerta, allegedly injuring him in the process, as he was observing an immigration raid on a garment warehouse outside of Los Angeles. Huerta was released on Monday evening after the solidarity actions and many unions including SEIU and the AFL-CIO published statements, but he still faces federal charges of conspiracy for allegedly obstructing federal agents.In Saint Paul, Minn., more than one hundred people from multiple unions and community groups joined thousands across the U.S. in these actions. They gathered on the steps at the state capitol to demand Huerta’s release and an end to ICE raids on workers and immigrant communities.
Minnesota’s Labor Movement is Demanding an End to ICE Raids - Workday Magazine
From Lake Street to Los Angeles, union leaders, organizers, and members have been on the front lines of resistance against Trump’s mass deportation agenda.Amie Stager (Workday Magazine)
Rough sleeping to be decriminalised after 200 years
Rough sleeping to be decriminalised after 200 years
The Government has confirmed it will repeal the outdated Vagrancy Act 1824 by Spring next year, to ensure rough sleeping is no longer a criminal offence.Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government (GOV.UK)
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Fair enough. Need to make space for all the disabled people Kier has sent to the streets.
[In all honesty this decriminalisation is a good thing but this government is still terrible]
Why I'm so Mad Right Now
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 15th June 2025
Need to let loose a primal scream without collecting footnotes first? Have a sneer percolating in your system but not enough time/energy to make a whole post about it? Go forth and be mid: Welcome to the Stubsack, your first port of call for learning fresh Awful you’ll near-instantly regret.
Any awful.systems sub may be subsneered in this subthread, techtakes or no.
If your sneer seems higher quality than you thought, feel free to cut’n’paste it into its own post — there’s no quota for posting and the bar really isn’t that high.
The post Xitter web has spawned soo many “esoteric” right wing freaks, but there’s no appropriate sneer-space for them. I’m talking redscare-ish, reality challenged “culture critics” who write about everything but understand nothing. I’m talking about reply-guys who make the same 6 tweets about the same 3 subjects. They’re inescapable at this point, yet I don’t see them mocked (as much as they should be)Like, there was one dude a while back who insisted that women couldn’t be surgeons because they didn’t believe in the moon or in stars? I think each and every one of these guys is uniquely fucked up and if I can’t escape them, I would love to sneer at them.
(Credit and/or blame to David Gerard for starting this.)
Torching the Google car: Why the growing revolt against big tech just escalated
If Silicon Valley doesn't start listening, the torched Waymo car will merely be the beginning.Brian Merchant (Blood in the Machine)
Protesters: call self-driving taxis to block streets on the way of the police, then set the damn things on fire
My T-shirt: there's 1 good uses for self-driving taxis
Did you know there’s a new fork of xorg, called x11libre? I didn’t! I guess not everyone is happy with wayland, so this seems like a reasonable
It's explicitly free of any "DEI" or similar discriminatory policies..[snip]Together we'll make X great again!
Oh dear. Project members are of course being entirely normal about the whole thing.
Metux, one of the founding contributors, is Enrico Weigelt, who has reasonable opinions like everyone except the nazis were the real nazis in WW2, and also had an anti vax (and possibly eugenicist) rant on the linux kernel mailing list, as you do.
In sure it’ll be fine though. He’s a great coder.
(links were unashamedly pillaged from this mastodon thread: nondeterministic.computer/@mjg…)
GitHub - X11Libre/xserver
Contribute to X11Libre/xserver development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
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Filosofia del confine. Nuovo corso on line di Diego Fusaro - Diego Fusaro
Il corso consta di 4 video che verranno inviati al momento dell'iscrizione. I video non sono in diretta ma sono preregistrati. Il costo del corso è di 25 euro.Diego Fusaro
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US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
US ambassador to Israel says US no longer pursuing goal of independent Palestinian state
Mike Huckabee suggested any future Palestinian state should be carved out of ‘a Muslim country’Joseph Gedeon (The Guardian)
Poland's constitutional court rules EU energy policies breach national sovereignty
Poland’s Constitutional Tribunal (TK) has ruled that European Union energy and climate regulations are incompatible with the Polish constitution and breach national sovereignty in determining energy policy.
The Tribunal found that EU institutions, including the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU), had exceeded their competences by interpreting EU treaties in a way that significantly impacts Poland’s ability to choose its energy sources independently.
Interpretations of EU law “cannot mean that Poland loses control over the scope of its delegated competences, and thus that there are areas in which its sovereignty (here: energy) is not protected”, the court said in a statement announcing its decision.
However, the ruling is unlikely to have any real effect for now given that the current government, a coalition led by Prime Minister Donald Tusk, does not recognise the TK’s legitimacy due to it containing judges unlawfully appointed by the former Law and Justice (PiS) administration.
The case was brought by a group of opposition lawmakers led by Sebastian Kaleta, a PiS MP and former deputy justice minister. The motion challenged the compatibility of EU climate rules – including Directive 2003/87/EC, which created the EU Emissions Trading Scheme (EU ETS) – with the Polish constitution.
The MPs argued that, although Poland had transferred some powers to Brussels, it should retain sovereignty over critical energy decisions. They claimed that mandatory participation in the EU ETS restricts economic freedom and undermines the state’s ability to ensure energy security.
They also warned that EU decision-making processes, which do not require unanimity in the European Council on issues affecting Poland’s energy mix, might breach the limits of competence conferred on the EU and undermine the primacy of the Polish constitution.
In its ruling, the TK agreed with the motion’s core arguments. It held that the CJEU had extended the interpretation of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union beyond the conferred competences, infringing on national sovereignty.
“Competences not conferred on the European Union belong to the member states themselves, and the EU can only act on the basis of the principle of subsidiarity, subject to the scrutiny of national parliaments at all times,” the court said.
Consequently, the TK found this interpretation of EU law to be incompatible with the Polish constitution, emphasising that Poland cannot lose control over the scope of delegated powers, especially in such a key area as energy sovereignty.
The TK, however, discontinued proceedings relating specifically to the ETS “due to the incomplete, from a formal point of view, definition of the object under verification”.
The TK concluded its statement by stating that it was now up to the Polish legislature and executive to take “appropriate public law measures” to implement the decision, which enters into force upon its publication.
However, it is the government that is responsible for publishing TK rulings, and it refuses to do so due to given that some of the tribunal’s judges were illegitimately appointed under PiS.
The ruling could still reverberate in Polish politics, however. The PiS-aligned president-elect, Karol Nawrocki, who takes office in August, said last month that the TK’s decision on this case could be a way to lower the electricity prices by 33% – one of his campaign promises.
He also pledged to hold a referendum on withdrawing from the EU’s Green Deal – a set of policies aimed at reaching climate neutrality by 2050 – and reaffirmed his support for coal, which remains Poland’s main source of electricity generation and is also widely used for heating homes.
PiS politicians welcomed the verdict, insisting that it means that Poland does not have to implement the Green Deal.
“The EU has not been given the competence to decide without the consent of Poland which energy sources we can use and what fiscal burdens may be imposed on individual sources,” Kaleta wrote on X. “This opens the path for a radical reduction in electricity and heating prices now.”
The former justice minister in the PiS government, Zbigniew Ziobro, meanwhile, challenged Tusk, asking if he would “break the law again and hide the verdict to drive Poles into poverty” or “will you behave as you should?”
The government has so far not commented on the TK’s ruling.
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Chinese police crackdown on writers of online erotic fiction
Police in northwestern China are cracking down on writers of online erotic fiction across the country, including many college students, according to RFA sources and media reports, amid concern that officers are punishing people outside their jurisdiction.Police in Lanzhou, the capital of Gansu province, have been summoning writers who don’t even live there. A report from Caixin media group said some have been referred to police for prosecution, and anecdotal evidence indicates writers are facing substantial fines.
A source who spoke to Radio Free Asia on condition of anonymity for safety reasons said the crackdown could involve 200-300 writers.
Their cases have also sparked a legal debate over the definition of “obscene materials” and renewed public discussion on the boundaries of creative freedom. Known as “Danmei,” the genre features romantic relationships between male characters. It originated in Japan and has become popular in China.
Amid tightened restrictions in China, many writers have turned to Haitang Culture, a Taiwanese-based adult fiction website established in 2015 to publish their work. The website on the democratic island doesn’t force censorship and allows explicit written content. Most readers are females.
Authorities in China have reacted. Last year, two China-based distributors affiliated with Haitang Culture were arrested for “assisting in information network criminal activities,” according to Shuiping Jiyuan, a news portal on the WeChat social media platform.
The recent police crackdown in Lanzhou followed similar moves in the eastern province of Anhui in June 2024, where authorities began arresting writers of online erotic fiction under the charge of “producing and distributing obscene materials for profit,” resulting in heavy fines and even prison sentences.
Police are seeking out writers even when they leave outside their jurisdiction - a practice that critics call “offshore fishing,” implying the motive of police is financial or political, rather than strictly legal.
“I don’t understand what they’re trying to do—are they pushing political correctness, or are they just desperate for money?” said Liu Yang, a veteran media professional in Lanzhou, told Radio Free Asia. “The police are short on funds, and now even arrests have become a way to make money.”
Chinese police crackdown on writers of online erotic fiction
Legal scholars say police are punishing writers outside their jurisdiction in an over-reach of authority.Qian Lang for RFA Mandarin (Radio Free Asia)
Russia's State Duma passes bill to create state messaging app as it considers blocking WhatsApp
Russia's State Duma passes bill to create state messaging app as it considers blocking WhatsApp
The new app "combines the features of a messenger and the functions of government services," the Duma's press service reported.Kateryna Hodunova (The Kyiv Independent)
@_elena is who the Fediverse needed like 10 years ago. A great communicator with an unbelievable talent, not only to tell a story, but also to visualize in a way, that everyone watching her four-minute video should ask themself: „Why in the world am I still wasting my life in capitalist-social-media bunkers instead of using the second-greatest thing since Tim Berners-Lee invented the internet.“
Re: The Future is Federated!
_elena@mastodon.social is who the Fediverse needed like 10 years ago. A great communicator with an unbelievable talent, not only to tell a story…Ruhrwellenreiter (NexxtPress)
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We all did, Elena. We all did! And you are most welcome, because it is true! Thank you so much for taking the time on what must be just another busy day for you and stopping by, leaving a comment on my humble post! ❤️
Do you plan to also publish the video on the corporate networks? As much as I dislike them. In my humble opinion, for which nobody has been asking: This is a message which really needs to go there and reach the people! 🤔
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in reply to Pro • • •Throughout most of my years of higher education as well as k-12, I was told that sourcing Wikipedia was forbidden. In fact, many professors/teachers would automatically fail an assignment if they felt you were using wikipedia. The claim was that the information was often inaccurate, or changing too frequently to be reliable. This reasoning, while irritating at times, always made sense to me.
Fast forward to my professional life today. I've been told on a number of occasions that I should trust LLMs to give me an accurate answer. I'm told that I will "be left behind" if I don't use ChatGPT to accomplish things faster. I'm told that my concerns of accuracy and ethics surrounding generative AI is simply "negativity."
These tools are (abstractly) referencing random users on the internet as well as Wikipedia and treating them both as legitimate sources of information. That seems crazy to me. How can we trust a technology that just references flawed sources from our past? I know there's ways to improve accuracy with things like RAG, but most people are hitting the LLM directly.
The culture around Generative AI should be scientific and cautious, but instead it feels like a cult with a good marketing team.
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in reply to Chulk • • •all good points.
i think the tech is not being governed by the technically inclined and/or the technically inclined are not involved in business enough but either way there's a huge lack of governance over tools that are growing to be sources of search requests. you're right. it feels like marketing won. really a long time ago but still, furthering whatever that means with latest technical progression leads to just awful shit.
see: microtransactions
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in reply to Chulk • • •I think the academic advice about Wikipedia was sadly mistaken. It's true that Wikipedia contains errors, but so do other sources. The problem was that it was a new thing and the idea that someone could vandalize a page startled people. It turns out, though, that Wikipedia has pretty good controls for this over a reasonable time-window. And there's a history of edits. And most pages are accurate and free from vandalism.
Just as you should not uncritically read any of your other sources, you shouldn't uncritically read Wikipedia as a source. But if you are going to uncritically read, Wikipedia's far from the worst thing to blindly trust.
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in reply to Mniot • • •Yeah, a lot of people had your perspective about Wikipedia while I was in college, but they are wrong, according to Wikipedia.
From the link:
I personally use ChatGPT like I would Wikipedia. It's a great introduction to a subject, especially in my line of work, which is software development. I can get summarized information about new languages and frameworks really quickly, and then I can dive into the official documentation when I have a high level understanding of the topic at hand. Unfortunately, most people do not use LLMs this way.
Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.orgMniot
in reply to Chulk • • •The whole paragraph is kinda FUD except for this. Normal research practice is to (get ready for a shock) do research and not just copy a high-level summary of what other people have done. If your professors were saying, "don't cite encyclopedias, which includes Wikipedia" then that's fine. But my experience was that Wikipedia was specifically called out as being especially unreliable and that's just nonsense.
Eesh. The value of a tertiary source is that it cites the secondary sources (which cite the primary). If you strip that out, how's it different from "some guy told me..."? I think your professors did a bad job of teaching you about how to read sources. Maybe because they didn't know themselves. 🙁
Chulk
in reply to Mniot • • •Let me clarify then. It's unreliable as a cited source in Academia. I'm drawing parallels and criticizing the way people use chatgpt. I.e. taking it at face value with zero caution and using it as if it's a primary source of information.
Did you read beyond the sentence that you quoted?
Here:
Example: you're a junior developer trying to figure out what this JavaScript syntax is
const {x} = response?.data
. It's difficult to figure out what destructuring and optional chaining are without knowing what they're called.With Chatgpt, you can copy and paste that code and ask "tell me what every piece of syntax is in this line of Javascript." Then you can check the official docs to learn more.
ɯᴉuoʇuɐ
in reply to Mniot • • •It wasn't mistaken 10 or especially 15 years ago, however. Check how some articles looked back then, you'll see vastly fewer sources and overall a less professional-looking text. These days I think most professors will agree that it's fine as a starting point (depending on the subject, at least; I still come across unsourced nonsensical crap here and there, slowly correcting it myself).
Mniot
in reply to ɯᴉuoʇuɐ • • •I think it was. When I think of Wikipedia, I'm thinking about how it was in ~2005 (20 years ago) and it was a pretty solid encyclopedia then.
There were (and still are) some articles that are very thin. And some that have errors. Both of these things are true of non-wiki encyclopedias. When I've seen a poorly-written article, it's usually on a subject that a standard encyclopedia wouldn't even cover. So I feel like that was still a giant win for Wikipedia.
ɯᴉuoʇuɐ
in reply to Mniot • • •In 2005 the article on William Shakespeare contained references to a total of 7 different sources, including a page describing how his name is pronounced, Plutarch, and "Catholic Encyclopedia on CD-ROM". It contained more text discussing Shakespeare's supposed Catholicism than his actual plays, which were described only in the most generic terms possible. I'm not noticing any grave mistakes while skimming the text, but it really couldn't pass for a reliable source or a traditionally solid encyclopedia. And that's the page on the best known English writer, slightly less popular topics were obviously much shoddier.
It had its significant upsides already back then, sure, no doubt about that. But the teachers' skepticism wasn't all that unwarranted.
English playwright and poet (1564–1616)
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)edryd
in reply to Chulk • • •The common reasons given why Wikipedia shouldn't be cited is often missing the main reason. You shouldn't cite Wikipedia because it is not a source of information, it is a summary of other sources which are referenced.
You shouldn't cite Wikipedia for the same reason you shouldn't cite a library's book report, you should read and cite the book itself. Libraries are a great resource and their reading lists and summaries of books can be a great starting point for research, just like Wikipedia. But citing the library instead of the book is just intellectual laziness and shows to any researcher you are not serious.
Wikipedia itself also says the same thing:
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipe…
Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.orgChulk
in reply to edryd • • •Right, and if an LLM is citing Wikipedia 47.9% of the time, that means that it's summarizing Wikipedia's summary.
Exactly my point.
nightlily
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in reply to Pro • • •AI Platform Citation Patterns: How ChatGPT, Google AI Overviews, and Perplexity Source Information
ProfoundMagicShel
in reply to Pro • • •I used ChatGPT on something and got a response sourced from Reddit. I told it I'd be more likely to believe the answer if it told me it had simply made up the answer. It then provided better references.
I don't remember what it was but it was definitely something that would be answered by an expert on Reddit, but would also be answered by idiots on Reddit and I didn't want to take chances.
kingthrillgore
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