PS: THIS IS NOT TRUE
PS: THIS IS NOT TRUEI am sorry, but the image is from Iran's petrochemical plant fire a few years ago, there are no report of ID attacks against Abadan right now.
Abadan oil refinery, one of the largest refineries in Iran was attacked by Israeli forces today.
This is not a military target. It's a clear indication that Netanyahu is trying to cripple Iran's economy and bot just it's nuclear plants.
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The Israeli occupation army spokesperson:
The Israeli occupation army spokesperson:
- We killed the heads of the Iranian security system
- We targeted the Iranian defense system
- The army is still attacking on Iranian territory
- 200 fighter jets participated in the attack on Iran
- Our pilots are attacking and continue to attack Iranian nuclear facilities
- Iran was close to obtaining nuclear weapons and the goal of our operation is to eliminate the threat
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@iran
Limit new car dimensions by 2035: proposal from civil society to the EU
30 associations are proposing to the European Commission to impose a limit on the size of new cars, in particular the total width and bonnet.
A report connected with this request showed that the average bonnet height of newly-sold cars in Europe is increasing by 0.5 cm a year.
Many studies showed that bigger cars and higher bonnets are related to more collisions, and worse outcome for pedestrians and cyclists (and those in smaller cars), especially in regards to children
Those SUVs are kid crushers, they shouldn’ be on our roads
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Mettiamo un limite alle dimensioni delle auto30 associazioni chiedono alla commissione europea di imporre un limite alle dimensioni delle #auto, in particolare la larghezza totale e l'altezza del cofano.
Ogni anno i costruttori aumentano in media di 0.5 cm la larghezza e l'altezza del cofano con conseguenze negative provate sulla #sicurezzaStradale: più feriti e più morti
Credo sia la direzione giusta.
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Civil society calls on the EU to limit new car dimensions by 2035
More than 30 civil society organisations have called on the European Commission to initiate work on a legislative proposal to set limits on the dimensions of new passenger cars by 2035 (particularly…ETSC
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Israel Strikes Iran's Ballistic Missile And Nuclear Facilities, Killing Senior Military Officials
Israel Strikes Iran's Ballistic Missile And Nuclear Facilities, Killing Senior Military Officials
Israel conducted what it called “preemptive" strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities and military sites across the country on June 13, warning that the attacks will continue as it pursues its goal of preventing Tehran from building a nuclear weapon.RFE/RL
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US immigration agency flies drones capable of surveillance over LA protests
CBP also said in a statement that its air and marine operations were “not engaged in the surveillance of first amendment activities”, but that they are “providing officer safety surveillance when requested by officers”.
The Department of Homeland Security on Monday posted a video on X that the agency said was DHS drone footage and bore a CBP air and marine operations watermark. It included zoomed in clips of protestors on the streets.
CBP’s confirmation of its drone usage comes after the LA Times also reported that an LAPD helicopter flying over protesters announced to them, “I have all of you on camera. I’m going to come to your house.” The Guardian US contacted the LAPD and has not heard back.
This is not the first time the DHS has flown drones over protests. In 2020, the DHS dispatched drones over at least 15 cities across the US where people gathered to protest about the murder of George Floyd and logged more than 270 hours of surveillance footage. The LAPD has also ramped up surveillance in response to first amendment activity. During the city’s George Floyd protests, LAPD sent requests to Amazon for Ring doorbell footage that specifically sought videos of the protests.
US immigration agency flies drones capable of surveillance over LA protests
CBP claims in statement that they are ‘providing officer safety surveillance when requested by officers’Johana Bhuiyan (The Guardian)
US immigration agency flies drones capable of surveillance over LA protests
CBP also said in a statement that its air and marine operations were “not engaged in the surveillance of first amendment activities”, but that they are “providing officer safety surveillance when requested by officers”.
The Department of Homeland Security on Monday posted a video on X that the agency said was DHS drone footage and bore a CBP air and marine operations watermark. It included zoomed in clips of protestors on the streets.
CBP’s confirmation of its drone usage comes after the LA Times also reported that an LAPD helicopter flying over protesters announced to them, “I have all of you on camera. I’m going to come to your house.” The Guardian US contacted the LAPD and has not heard back.
This is not the first time the DHS has flown drones over protests. In 2020, the DHS dispatched drones over at least 15 cities across the US where people gathered to protest about the murder of George Floyd and logged more than 270 hours of surveillance footage. The LAPD has also ramped up surveillance in response to first amendment activity. During the city’s George Floyd protests, LAPD sent requests to Amazon for Ring doorbell footage that specifically sought videos of the protests.
US immigration agency flies drones capable of surveillance over LA protests
CBP claims in statement that they are ‘providing officer safety surveillance when requested by officers’Johana Bhuiyan (The Guardian)
Limit new car dimensions by 2035: proposal from civil society to the EU
30 associations are proposing to the European Commission to impose a limit on the size of new cars, in particular the total width and bonnet.
A report connected with this request showed that the average bonnet height of newly-sold cars in Europe is increasing by 0.5 cm a year.
Many studies showed that bigger cars and higher bonnets are related to more collisions, and worse outcome for pedestrians and cyclists (and those in smaller cars), especially in regards to children
Those SUVs are kid crushers, they shouldn' be on our roads
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Mettiamo un limite alle dimensioni delle auto30 associazioni chiedono alla commissione europea di imporre un limite alle dimensioni delle #auto, in particolare la larghezza totale e l'altezza del cofano.
Ogni anno i costruttori aumentano in media di 0.5 cm la larghezza e l'altezza del cofano con conseguenze negative provate sulla #sicurezzaStradale: più feriti e più morti
Credo sia la direzione giusta.
etsc.eu/civil-society-calls-on…
Civil society calls on the EU to limit new car dimensions by 2035
More than 30 civil society organisations have called on the European Commission to initiate work on a legislative proposal to set limits on the dimensions of new passenger cars by 2035 (particularly…ETSC
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Trump keeps national guards in LA for now as appeals court puts brakes on ban
An appeals court has temporarily returned control of California’s national guard to Donald Trump, just hours after a federal judge ruled the president’s use of the guards to suppress protests in Los Angeles was illegal and banned it.
The 9th US Circuit court of appeals order means Trump retains command of the guards for now and can continue to use them to respond to protests against his immigration crackdown. The court could later decide against his control.
It’s a temporary victory for Trump in back-and-forth court decisions on who should control the security force, an issue that has pitted California’s governor, Gavin Newsom, against the president and angered Democrats, who see the deployment as an abuse of power.
Judge to consider California’s request for restraining order against Trump over use of troops in LA
Gavin Newsom filed suit challenging president’s move to call up troops to suppress protests against Ice raidsHugo Lowell (The Guardian)
Piracy Giant Mangajikan's "Website Closed" After 185m Visits in May Alone
Earlier this week, Japanese manga publisher Shueisha filed a DMCA subpoena application in the U.S., as it continues to pursue the operators of major pirate sites. At the very top of Shueisha's latest list is Mangajikan, a site that appears to have received 185 million visitors in May alone. In Japan, that made Mangajikan more popular than Instagram, Facebook, and ChatGPT. But right now, on what used to be its front page, is a very clear message: Website Closed.
Piracy Giant Mangajikan's "Website Closed" After 185m Visits in May Alone * TorrentFreak
Pirate manga site Mangajikan reportedly received 185m visits in May alone. Mentioned in a subpoena, the site has declared itself "shut down."Andy Maxwell (TF Publishing)
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The Quantum Tech Renaissance: Are We Ready?
In this epoch of accelerating innovation, the definition of technology is evolving faster than society’s ability to grasp it. Artificial Intelligence is now writing code. Blockchain is redefining value. Neural implants are decoding thought. But beyond the code, beneath the circuits, lies a revolution in cognitive performance enhancement—one not born in silicon, but in terpenes, cannabinoids, and molecular precision.
Some forward-leaning developers, designers, and disruptors are already tuning into the power of precision-calibrated biohacking substances to unlock creative bandwidth, neural velocity, and ultra-deep flow states. Their source? It’s not found in traditional retail or pharmaceuticals—it’s in optimized distribution networks, backed by cryptographic finance, powered by lab-level safety standards, and engineered for effect.
When tech leaders talk “smart supply chains,” they often overlook the cannabis distribution models now operating on blockchain-fueled architecture. But some pioneers aren’t just talking—they're doing. With scalability hardwired into their mission, these trailblazers are redefining how tech ecosystems evolve—securing global access to focus-enhancing, creativity-boosting formulations with Bitcoin-clear precision.
Think you’re pushing limits? Only if you’re optimizing at every level.
Recommendations for German Friendica instances?
Awhile ago another user requested that we list European Friendica instances in the sidebar of this community, and I had to go researching.
Friendica has a pretty cool map and a list on their page of all the instances, but not all of them are actively maintained or open for registrations, so I had to take a better look at them.
Criteria:
- signups enabled
- european / hosted in europe
- more than few months old
- friendica version up to date
- more than 0 active users (many 0 active user servers seem to be more "play around with friendica -servers or single self hosted account servers)
Surprising amount of European instances, but sadly many of them didn't meet the criteria. Here's the list I came up with:
Austria: friendica.io
Italy: poliverso.org
Germany: piratenpartei.social, anonsys.net
I'm looking for recommendations and hoping someone here knows friendica bit better and could recommend a german instance or two!
Edit: we got some nice suggestions, thank you! Edited this post to add. Further suggestions are welcome as well 😀
Edit2: fixed a mistake. Poliverso is an italian friendica instance, just hosted in france.
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Poliverso.org is NOT a French instance but an Italian instance!
Can you correct it, please?
Know that social.trom.tf is a perfect instance for the French-speaking public
Laurie Anderson - Homeland (2010)
Homeland è il settimo album in studio di Laurie Anderson, pubblicato nel 2010. Si tratta di un concept album sulla vita negli Stati Uniti, il suo primo album di nuovo materiale da Life on a String del 2001.
Il disco è stato prodotto da Anderson, Lou Reed e Roma Baran... Leggi e ascolta...
Laurie Anderson - Homeland (2010)
Homeland è il settimo album in studio di Laurie Anderson, pubblicato nel 2010. Si tratta di un concept album sulla vita negli Stati Uniti, il suo primo album di nuovo materiale da Life on a String del 2001. Il disco è stato prodotto da Anderson, Lou Reed e Roma Baran. Anderson ha iniziato il tour del progetto alla fine del 2007. L'uscita dell'album era originariamente prevista per il 2008. A causa dei continui cambiamenti di forma del progetto, l'uscita è stata posticipata più volte. L'ultima uscita, nel 2010, è stata un cofanetto di due dischi composto da un CD e un DVD. La canzone “Only an Expert” è stata pubblicata come singolo in vinile da 12” il 18 maggio 2010. Una canzone intitolata “Pictures and Things” era il lato B del singolo. L'ultima traccia dell'album, “Flow”, è stata nominata per il Grammy Award come migliore performance pop strumentale nel 2011.
Ascolta: album.link/i/376832039
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Experts warn Regulatory Standards Bill threatens future public health laws
Experts warn Regulatory Standards Bill threatens future public health laws
One of the experts said it would have a "chilling effect" on public health measures.Kate Green (RNZ)
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Israel pounds Iran, Tehran vows vengeance
Tehran (AFP) – Israel pounded Iran in a series of air raids on Friday, striking 100 targets including Tehran's nuclear and military sites, and killing the armed forces' chief of staff, the head of Iran's Revolutionary Guards and top nuclear scientists.Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned Israel it faced a "bitter and painful" fate over the attack, which also killed a senior Guards commander according to Iranian media.
Iran had launched 100 drones in response towards Israel whose defences were working to intercept, the Israeli military said.
US President Donald Trump told Fox News he had advance notice of the Israeli strikes which Israel's military said involved 200 fighter jets. Trump also stressed that Tehran "cannot have a nuclear bomb".
The United States also underlined that it was not involved in the Israeli action and warned Tehran not to attack its personnel or interests.
But Tehran said the United States would be "responsible for consequences" as Israel's operation "cannot have been carried out without the coordination and permission of the United States".
Israel's operation struck at the "heart of Iran's nuclear enrichment programme", taking aim at the atomic facility in Natanz and nuclear scientists, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said.
The operation against Iran will "continue as many days as it takes," Netanyahu said, adding in a later video statement that the initial strikes were "very successful".
Iran's Revolutionary Guards leader Hossein Salami and armed forces Chief of Staff Mohammad Bagheri were killed in the Israeli operation, said Iranian media.
Iranian state media said residential buildings in Tehran were hit as well, killing a number of civilians including women and children.
Air traffic was halted at Tehran's main international airport Imam Khomeini, while neighbouring Iraq has also closed its airspace and suspended all flights at all airports, state media reported.
Israel declared a state of emergency, likewise closing its airspace, with Defence Minister Israel Katz anticipating retaliatory action from Tehran.
"Following the State of Israel's preemptive strike against Iran, a missile and drone attack against the State of Israel and its civilian population is expected in the immediate future," Katz said.
An Israeli military official added that the Israeli army believed that Iran had the ability to strike Israel "any minute".
Oil prices surged 12 percent while stocks sank on the Israeli strikes, which came after Trump's warning of a "massive conflict" in the region.
Trump had also said the United States was drawing down staff in the Middle East, after Iran threatened to target US military bases in the region if conflict breaks out.
Trump said he believed a "pretty good" deal on Iran's nuclear programme was "fairly close", but said that an Israeli attack on its arch foe could wreck the chances of an agreement.
The US leader did not disclose the details of a conversation on Monday with Netanyahu, but said: "I don't want them going in, because I think it would blow it."
Trump quickly added: "Might help it actually, but it also could blow it."
Secretary of State Marco Rubio warned Iran not respond to Israeli strikes by hitting US bases, saying Washington was not involved.
"Let me be clear: Iran should not target US interests or personnel," Rubio said in a statement.
Prior to Friday's attack, Iran had threatened to hit US bases in the Middle East if conflict were to erupt.
"All its bases are within our reach, we have access to them, and without hesitation we will target all of them in the host countries," Iran's Defence Minister Aziz Nasirzadeh said this week.
With the violence raising questions on whether a sixth round of talks planned between the US and Iran will still take place on Sunday in Oman, Trump said however that Washington is still "hoping to get back to the negotiating table".
Confirming Natanz among targets, the UN's nuclear watchdog said it was "closely monitoring" the situation.
"The agency is in contact with Iranian authorities regarding radiation levels. We are also in contact with our inspectors in the country," International Atomic Energy Agency head Rafael Grossi said.
Israel, which counts on US military and diplomatic support, sees Iran as an existential threat.
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Israel again called for global action after the IAEA accused Iran on Wednesday of non-compliance with its obligations.Iran currently enriches uranium to 60 percent, far above the 3.67-percent limit set in the 2015 deal and close, though still short, of the 90 percent needed for a nuclear warhead.
I love how this lacks basic context like, that the deal was abandoned by US so Iran had no obligations to follow it.
The Iran Deal was one of the worst and most one-sided transactions the United States has ever entered into. - President Donald J. Trump
Canada | Designing a Wealth Tax for Today’s Robber Barons
A proposed wealth tax on Canada’s richest 0.6% could raise hundreds of billions of dollars — enough to tackle housing, transit, and care. The sheer scale of what a tiny slice of billionaire wealth could fund is staggering.
Designing a Wealth Tax for Today’s Robber Barons
A proposed wealth tax on Canada’s richest 0.6% could raise hundreds of billions of dollars — enough to tackle housing, transit, and care. The sheer scale of what a tiny slice of billionaire wealth could fund is staggering.
Florida’s New Investment: Israel’s War
New legislation in Florida introduces a financial model that would enable local governments around the country to invest virtually limitless sums in the Israeli war effort, despite the mounting financial risk of doing so.
Zohran Mamdani’s Messaging Machine Is a Model to Emulate
New York City socialist mayoral candidate Zohran Mamdani has clearly learned from other effective communicators like Bernie Sanders how to use online media to spread popular left-wing ideas. Mamdani’s approach is a model for other insurgent candidates.
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Veterans Are Ramping Up Protests Against VA Cuts
The Trump administration wants to cut more than 80,000 VA jobs this year and further privatize veterans’ health care. Last week’s D-Day anniversary saw the biggest veteran mobilizations yet against Trump’s cuts to veterans’ benefits.
Organic Maps Forked Over Governance Concerns: CoMaps is Born
Organic Maps Forked Over Governance Concerns: CoMaps is Born
An Organic Maps fork has emerged due to broken trust.Sourav Rudra (It's FOSS News)
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GitHub - graphhopper/open-traffic-collection: Collection of open data resources for traffic information
Collection of open data resources for traffic information - graphhopper/open-traffic-collectionGitHub
Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars
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Ron DeSantis Says Floridians Have Right to Hit Protesters With Cars
"That's their fault for impinging on you," Florida's governor said.Sophie Clark (Newsweek)
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L'intricato filo delle alghe che lega le donne all'eredità delle isole balinesi - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
L'intricato filo delle alghe che lega le donne all'eredità delle isole balinesi - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Con il progredire dell’attuale situazione climatica e i suoi effetti sulle condizioni meteorologiche vigenti, le conseguenze ad ampio spettro subite dal pianeta continueranno a coinvolgere progressivamente una percentuale maggiore d’interessi ed atti…Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
What other browsers block the extraction of canvas data?
On Librewolf, I've been getting this warning on tracking websites like Discord and IG(from when I was in the process of deleting them).
I'm not sure why I never got these warnings on other browsers like Firefox or Waterfox.
(I know my camera is a potato)
What I Saw in LA Wasn’t an Insurrection. It Was a Police Riot. | The Nation
What I Saw in LA Wasn’t an Insurrection. It Was a Police Riot. | The Nation
As Trump mobilizes the marines to quell an “insurrection” in LA, it’s essential to be clear about how the protests started and what actually happened.The Nation
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To Maryland college students, speaking out about Gaza means more than any potential discipline
To Maryland college students, speaking out about Gaza means more than any potential discipline
In conversations with more than a dozen local student activists, Baltimore Beat heard that they see their Pro-Palestine advocacy as part of a broader, generational fight against injustice.Jaisal Noor (The Real News Network)
Linux won't boot, looking for help
Hey there. I’m totally new to Linux. I’m not the most tech savvy, but I’m fed up with windows and want to go elsewhere. For the time being I figured I’d dual boot, and got everything set up on a usb. I plugged it in, booted up Linux Mint, and it worked smoothly. I ended the session, powered off my pc, removed the usb, booted up windows 11, freed up some disc space and did some other stuff on my computer, then turned it off for a bit. When I went to boot it up again, I got this message:
Failed to open \EFI\B00T\mmx64.efi - Not Found Failed to load image ??: Not Found Failed to start MokManager: Not Found
Something has gone seriously wrong: import mok-state() failed: Not Foundand then the computer powered off. I tried disabling fast start or whatever it’s called, as well as secure boot, and it’s still giving me that. Windows still boots up just fine. Does anyone have any advice? Like I said I don’t have much technical knowledge so a dumbed down response would be really appreciated. I’ve looked up a few forums and nothing gave me much.
Oh also, when I try to boot it and it gives me the error and turns off, if I turn it back on but boot up windows, I get a message saying something was blocked due to a security system I have to disable, but doesn’t tell me what that security system is or how to disable it. It’s getting a little frustrating. I don’t know why it worked once but not anymore.
Update: I got it working. Thanks everyone for the help.
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When you freed up the disk space windows seems to have broken mints bootloader partition. You could fix it if you wanted, but at beginner level its probably best to reinstall. If you need to recover any data from you "broken" mint partition you can plug the mint USB in, boot into the live environment and look in your files mount you old mint files and backup anything you want to keep before reinstalling.
Depends on how much of a nerd you are. If the idea of rescuing your system using the terminal sounds fun then try otherwise just reinstall.
Ministry of Defence admits UK is training Israeli military IN BRITAIN
Israeli military are currently being trained in Britain
It is clearer than ever that the UK is not just complicit in Israeli genocide in Gaza: it is an active participantHG (The Canary)
Open Source CAD In The Browser
The project’s GitHub repository shows an impressive slate of features, but also notes that things are changing as this is alpha software. The CAD kernel is a common one brought in via WebAssembly, so there shouldn’t be many simple bugs involving geometry.We’ve seen a number of browser-based tools that do some kind of CAD. CADmium is a recent entry into the list. Or, stick with OpenSCAD. We sometimes go low-tech for schematics.
Open Source CAD In The Browser
Some people love tools in their browsers. Others hate them. We certainly do like to see just how far people can push the browser and version 0.6 of CHILI3D, a browser-based CAD program, certainly p…Hackaday
Satellite imagery reveals total razing of Khuza’a in May 2025 in further evidence of Israel’s wanton destruction and genocide in Gaza
Total razing of Khuza’a further evidence of Israel’s genocide in Gaza
Amnesty International’s analysis of satellite imagery and verification of video footage reveals how Israeli forces completely razed what remained of the town of Khuza’a in the southern occupied Gaza Strip over the course of two weeks in May 2025.Amnesty International
Linux Foundation launches Fair Package Manager, a decentralized WordPress infrastructure alternative.
FAIR Package Manager Project
FAIR Package Manager Project has 8 repositories available. Follow their code on GitHub.GitHub
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So it's a plug-in for WordPress that rips wordpress.org links out?
That's hardcore lol. The world really is pissed at Matt Mullenweg.
Amazon Doubles Prime Video Ads Per Hour
EXCLUSIVE: Amazon Doubles Prime Video Ads to 6 Minutes Per Hour
Ad buyers are happy about the prospect of lower CPMs, but worry about the potential tradeoffs.SiriusXM Media (Adweek)
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Meloni’s controversial anti-protest bill becomes Italian law
Meloni’s controversial anti-protest bill becomes Italian law
Security decree gives greater powers to agents of the state and greater protections to police officers.Elena Giordano (POLITICO)
IDF promotes officer who soldiers said ordered to shoot Gazans carrying white flag
IDF promotes officer who soldiers said ordered to shoot Gazans carrying white flag
An IDF commander was said to have issued a shoot-to-kill order against two Gazans carrying a white flag, which was dismissed by other officers who deemed it illegal.Bar Peleg (Haaretz)
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What Happens If an Asteroid Heads for Earth?
Three Steps to Stopping Killer Asteroids
Planetary defense tech would find and divert hard-to-spot near-Earth objectsNancy L. Chabot (IEEE Spectrum)
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Gaza now worse than hell on earth, humanitarian chief tells BBC
Gaza has become worse than hell on earth, the head of the International Committee of the Red Cross has told the BBC.
In an interview at the ICRC's headquarters in Geneva, the organisation's president Mirjana Spoljaric said "humanity is failing" as it watched the horrors of the Gaza war.
Speaking in a room close to a case displaying the ICRC's three Nobel Peace Prizes, I asked Ms Spoljaric about remarks she made in April, that Gaza was "hell on earth", and if anything had happened since to change her mind.
"It has become worse… We cannot continue to watch what is happening. It's surpassing any acceptable, legal, moral, and humane standard. The level of destruction, the level of suffering.
Gaza now worse than hell on earth, humanitarian chief tells BBC
The situation in Gaza surpasses "any acceptable, legal, moral, and humane standard", the ICRC tells BBC's Jeremy Bowen.Jeremy Bowen (BBC News)
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I've read Dante's Inferno. Two things are true:
- In envisioning Hell, this is beyond even him.
Though, the ninth circle — betrayal — is where many politicians, pundits, and the president of Israel belong. Frozen in the ice at the center of Hell.
- Many people deserve to be sent to Hell for this. Perhaps all of us who did not do more to stop it.
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@europe
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in reply to lgsp@feddit.it • • •lgsp@feddit.it
in reply to sabreW4K3 • • •Asetru
in reply to lgsp@feddit.it • • •Hm. Don't know.
This one?
Yeah, can be banned.
But this one?
Don't know. While it's a fair bit shorter than an f150, it's still a big-ass car. But is it an unethical car? It fits a lot of stuff or a lot of people or a fair amount of both, but I guess the same thing is true for the f150. Visibility is much better I guess, but would pick ups be more moral if they had a lower hood?
Like, yeah, I hate pick ups, too, but what's their defining aspect? What's the law that gets rid of large SUVs but keeps station wagons? Or is the law just going to get rid of all larger cars?
I'm not trying to argue against the idea of banning dick comparison cars, this is a genuine question.
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in reply to Asetru • • •some thoughts about your post
Asetru
in reply to lgsp@feddit.it • • •Fair point. I agree.
I always assumed that the bonnet height was one of the reasons why you couldn't really drive one of those in Europe anyway. But if that's not the case then yes, adjusting that should be done.
(Also I drive a van and I think it's cool since obviously I'm cool and so my car kinda has to be, too, so I'm not sure if I agree with your first point.)
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in reply to Asetru • • •sorry, my mistakes. Vans can be absolutely cool. I think the electric one from VW is extremely cool. It's just not the kind of cool that people with fragile masculinity would desire
SirQuack
in reply to Asetru • • •We've had station wagons for a very long time now. A big Ford Mondeo we had was a relatively low car, without an enormous bonnet.
Cars continue to get wider, longer and higher off the ground (there's this Kia that looks like you're driving around in a fridge), whilst the stuff we move within them isn't exactly increasing. it's just bigger for the sake of being bigger, and that's causing issues in the streets.
Asetru
in reply to SirQuack • • •You are missing my point. To turn this into a law, there need to be clear rules of what is or isn't allowed.
The Kia you're talking about is this one I guess? The EV5?
Unfortunately, the size comparison site I used doesn't have that, but it is apparently similar to their "Sportage" SUV, so I took the long wheel base version of that one to compare it against your old Mondeo...
... which is longer than the SUV...
... and only 5cm less wide ...
... and has much less cargo volume.
So, what kind of rules do you come up with to get rid of the one but not the other? Height? Then what about the vans? And how is height making a car more or less unethical?
So far, the 3.5 ton weight limit seems to have worked well for keeping the most ridiculous American cars off European streets. But it seems that's not enough, so what other rules could be used to define which cars shouldn't be allowed to drive around? It's obviously not weight because we already have that. It's apparently not the size because despite most arguments, SUVs aren't always much bigger than other cars that are usually perceived as fine. So what is it??
real_squids
in reply to Asetru • • •Asetru
in reply to real_squids • • •But isn't that already part of regulations 78/2009 and 2019/2144?
I mean, I'm all for it, but if it's just that it seems the goal is to get more detailed regulations for the bonnet then that's great, but I fail to see how that would get rid of SUVs or other larger cars.
Also don't misunderstand me there... Reducing bonnet height to protect pedestrians on impact is a good thing and should be done. I just don't think it'd reduce car weight or size, so if that's the goal then it won't help.
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in reply to Asetru • • •EuroNCAP suggested to try to change something, apparently they are not catching in their test, but they acknowledge the issue
etsc.eu/calls-grow-to-address-…
Calls grow to address safety risks of large vehicles in urban areas
ETSC