Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
“DRIVERS LICENSES AND FACE PICS! GET THE FUCK IN HERE BEFORE THEY SHUT IT DOWN!” the thread read before being deleted.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan | 404 Media
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
“DRIVERS LICENSES AND FACE PICS! GET THE FUCK IN HERE BEFORE THEY SHUT IT DOWN!” the thread read before being deleted.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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You should block Censys from scanning your network
Opt Out of Data Collection
Censys strives to be a good citizen of the security industry. Censys only scans to get information. Censys never tries to log into any service, read any database, or otherwise gain authenticated access to any system.Censys Documentation
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If that is a concern for you then you should also look into blocking other mass-scanning services as well, like Shodan.
I know there are plenty of others as well, I would imagine someone somewhere has a list of services like that.
I mean, you can, or you can use it to assure your firewall is configured correctly. The entire Internet is scanning you at all times, why would you focus your attention on one of the services who is willing to share their results with you?
Believe me, you probably have lower hanging fruit to pick.
OpenAI Seeks Additional Capital From Investors as Part of Its $40 Billion Round
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https://www.wired.com/story/openai-fundraising-round-softbank-sam-altman/
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Kafka e l’umorismo assurdo: il riso amaro tra alienazione e burocrazia
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- Quando il riso si fa amaro e profondo
- L’assurdità come fondamento dell’umorismo kafkiano
- La burocrazia oppressiva e il riso della resa
- Il grottesco e la deformazione del reale attraverso la metamorfosi del riso
- Situazioni imbarazzanti e l’umorismo della vergogna
- Un meccanismo di difesa contro l’angoscia
- L’umorismo come lente per la condizione umana
- Kafka e Pirandello – affinità nel riso che fa pensare?
- L’umorismo Kafkiano in breve
Quando il riso si fa amaro e profondo
L’umorismo di Franz Kafka non fa ridere nel senso tradizionale del termine. Non suscita una risata fragorosa né una comicità immediata: piuttosto, si insinua sotto pelle, come un’inquietudine che si maschera da sorriso. Parlare di umorismo tragico in Kafka significa avvicinarsi a una forma di riso che nasce dall’assurdo e dallo straniamento, in un universo in cui le regole sembrano scritte da una logica sconosciuta. L’umorismo di Kafka è dunque un umorismo che oscilla tra il grottesco e il tragico, che emerge dalla tensione fra il desiderio di comprensione e l’ineluttabile incomprensibilità del mondo. Questo riso amaro non è evasione, ma uno strumento sottile di consapevolezza. Capire perché l’umorismo in Kafka risulti così disturbante significa riconoscere la sua funzione: trasformare l’assurdo in una lente con cui osservare le contraddizioni dell’esistenza. Kafka porta il lettore a confrontarsi con l’insensatezza attraverso un umorismo assurdo che non consola, ma interroga. Così, nella tensione fra comicità e angoscia, si apre un varco per riflettere sulla condizione umana.
L’assurdità come fondamento dell’umorismo kafkiano
In Kafka, l’assurdo non è un’eccezione narrativa, ma il tessuto stesso del reale. Le sue opere sono costruite su una logica interna che appare del tutto illogica: uomini arrestati senza motivo, impiegati che inseguono autorità irraggiungibili, creature che si trasformano inspiegabilmente. L’assurdità nelle opere di Kafka non è solo una cifra stilistica: è un modo per mostrare come la realtà, se osservata senza filtri consolatori, possa risultare spietatamente incoerente. In questo contesto, il mondo incomprensibile di Kafka si popola di personaggi che cercano risposte, ma si scontrano con un muro di silenzi e procedure vuote. È in questa frizione che si genera l’umorismo assurdo: ridiamo, non perché qualcosa sia oggettivamente comico, ma perché ci troviamo davanti a un destino ineluttabile governato da regole che sfuggono a ogni logica umana.
La logica illogica di Kafka amplifica la nostra sensazione di alienazione. Ed è proprio questa alienazione, così spinta da diventare caricaturale, che apre la porta a una forma di riso paradossale. L’alienazione e l’umorismo in Kafka si fondono in una risata che nasce dall’impotenza, dal riconoscere nei suoi personaggi una parte della nostra stessa lotta per dare senso a un mondo che sembra fatto apposta per negarci risposte. L’assurdo, così, non è solo angoscia: è anche lo specchio deformante attraverso cui Kafka ci invita a guardarci con occhi nuovi — e a ridere, amaramente, della nostra condizione.
La burocrazia oppressiva e il riso della resa
In Kafka, la burocrazia non è solo un apparato amministrativo: è un’entità quasi metafisica, opaca e onnipresente, che schiaccia i singoli individui con la sua mole incomprensibile. Nei romanzi come Il Processo e Il Castello, i protagonisti sono immersi in labirinti di regole e formalità che non comprendono e da cui non possono uscire. L’umorismo della burocrazia in Kafka nasce proprio da questo scarto tra la precisione delle procedure e l’assenza totale di senso. K., il protagonista de Il Castello, cerca invano di ottenere spiegazioni da funzionari che non compaiono mai o parlano per allusioni; Josef K., ne Il Processo, è trascinato in un sistema giudiziario che lo accusa senza mai dirgli il motivo. Di fronte a queste strutture opprimenti, l’unica possibilità di sopravvivenza diventa il riso: un riso della resa, disilluso ma necessario.
In questo contesto, l’umorismo nero legale che Kafka costruisce ha un potere singolare: trasforma il tragico in paradossale, l’ingiustizia in grottesca comicità. L’oppressione e l’umorismo in Kafka si nutrono a vicenda, dando forma a una narrazione in cui la comicità è una crepa nel muro dell’assurdo. I dettagli minuziosi con cui Kafka descrive timbri, documenti, ordini e sottoposti che si rimandano tra loro creano un effetto comico solo in apparenza leggero, che in realtà scava a fondo nell’angoscia del vivere. È proprio il processo kafkiano a mostrarci come la precisione delle parole possa diventare un’arma spuntata, e come l’umorismo kafkiano fiorisca nei punti in cui il linguaggio si frantuma contro la realtà inafferrabile del potere.
Il grottesco e la deformazione del reale attraverso la metamorfosi del riso
In Kafka, l’umorismo assurdo si manifesta spesso attraverso il grottesco: una deformazione improvvisa e inquietante della realtà che produce un effetto tanto comico quanto disturbante. L’esempio più emblematico è La Metamorfosi, dove Gregor Samsa si sveglia trasformato in un “enorme insetto immondo” – un evento che viene narrato con una naturalezza disarmante. Non c’è stupore né da parte del protagonista, né dei familiari: tutto si svolge in un tono apparentemente neutro, che accentua il carattere grottesco e tragicamente comico della vicenda. Questo è l’umorismo ne “La Metamorfosi” – un riso che nasce dal paradosso di trattare l’incredibile come se fosse quotidiano.
I personaggi grotteschi di Kafka, come Gregor o i funzionari labirintici de Il Castello, incarnano una comicità della deformazione: non sono caricature comiche in senso classico, ma figure deformate dall’assurdo, vittime di un mondo che li plasma secondo logiche inumane. La trasformazione grottesca diventa allora simbolo dell’alienazione, della perdita di identità, e paradossalmente anche di una comicità amara e tagliente. In questo contesto, l’umorismo kafkiano non consola, ma disvela: ci costringe a ridere mentre ci mostra l’orrore di una realtà insensata.
Kafka sembra dirci che il riso può scaturire anche laddove l’angoscia è più intensa, e che spesso questa risata è una forma di resistenza minima – una forma di significato dell’umorismo in Kafka che coincide con l’accettazione passiva e ironica dell’inspiegabile.
Situazioni imbarazzanti e l’umorismo della vergogna
Uno degli aspetti più sottili e perturbanti dell’umorismo in Kafka è legato all’imbarazzo: una dimensione profondamente umana che diventa, nelle sue opere, fonte di disagio ma anche di riso amaro. Kafka eccelle nel costruire situazioni imbarazzanti, al limite dell’umiliazione, in cui i suoi personaggi si trovano esposti, inadeguati, privati di ogni dignità. Questo tipo di ridicolo kafkiano non fa ridere per leggerezza, ma per la cruda esposizione della fragilità umana.
In racconti come Davanti alla legge o Relazione per un’accademia, così come ne Il Processo, i protagonisti si trovano spesso in contesti in cui la loro impotenza è totale e il loro imbarazzo esistenziale è palpabile. Il lettore osserva, con una sorta di partecipazione disarmata, le loro goffe reazioni, i tentativi inutili di difendersi, giustificarsi, conformarsi a regole che sfuggono alla logica. È qui che nasce il riso disturbante tipico di Kafka: l’umorismo della vergogna, quello che ci mette a disagio proprio perché ci riguarda da vicino.
Questa comicità è profondamente legata all’alienazione dell’individuo moderno, e ci mette di fronte a un paradosso: ridiamo mentre percepiamo il dolore dell’altro, forse perché in fondo riconosciamo qualcosa di nostro in quel disagio. È il meccanismo del riso e dell’assurdità in Kafka: il riso non consola né libera, ma ci inchioda davanti all’insensatezza di molte dinamiche sociali ed esistenziali. E proprio qui risiede una delle chiavi più potenti per comprendere perché l’umorismo in Kafka conservi una forza così viva e tagliente.
Un meccanismo di difesa contro l’angoscia
L’umorismo di Kafka non è solo uno stile narrativo o una cifra estetica: è anche e soprattutto uno strumento di sopravvivenza. In un universo dove ogni logica si dissolve e le certezze dell’esistenza si sgretolano, il riso amaro di Kafka agisce come valvola di sfogo, come meccanismo di difesa contro l’angoscia. Di fronte all’assurdità del reale, al peso dell’ignoto e alla crudeltà delle strutture anonime che governano il destino umano, l’umorismo si insinua come forma estrema di lucidità.
Kafka non ci chiede di ridere con leggerezza, ma ci invita a sopportare l’insostenibile attraverso il riso. Come una sorta di catarsi rovesciata, l’umorismo tragico kafkiano ci offre la possibilità di abitare l’angoscia senza esserne annientati. È una difesa fragile, certo, ma autentica. La risata – quando arriva – è nervosa, tesa, piena di disagio. E proprio per questo è sincera.
Non si tratta solo di sfuggire al dolore, ma di riconoscere che, nella messa in scena dell’assurdo, il riso può diventare un’arma contro l’opacità del mondo. Così, il significato dell’umorismo in Kafka si fa più chiaro: non serve a consolare, ma a far vedere. Non cancella il buio, ma lo illumina quel tanto che basta per comprenderne la forma.
L’umorismo come lente per la condizione umana
Se l’umorismo in Kafka ha una funzione catartica, esso è anche – e forse soprattutto – una lente attraverso cui osservare la condizione umana. Leggere Kafka con attenzione significa accettare che il riso non nasce per sdrammatizzare, ma per rendere ancora più evidente la tragicità dell’esistenza. In questo senso, Kafka si avvicina a Luigi Pirandello e alla sua teoria del “sentimento del contrario“: anche nell’opera kafkiana il lettore ride e, al tempo stesso, percepisce un profondo disagio.
Quello che appare come ridicolo kafkiano è in realtà un’espressione di verità. Le situazioni grottesche, le metamorfosi inesplicabili, la burocrazia insensata e le regole invisibili non sono semplici espedienti narrativi, ma simboli potenti della solitudine e dell’impotenza dell’individuo moderno. L’umorismo diventa così un modo per mettere in crisi la realtà, per svelare le contraddizioni e le crudeltà insite nei meccanismi sociali e psicologici.
In Kafka, il riso non è mai superficiale: è un invito alla riflessione esistenziale. Un invito a guardare dentro noi stessi, a interrogarci sul senso del nostro agire, sulla precarietà del nostro ruolo nel mondo, sulla fragilità delle nostre certezze. Il significato dell’umorismo di Kafka, allora, risiede in questa doppia tensione: farci ridere per farci pensare, e farci pensare attraverso un riso che non consola, ma smuove.
Kafka non cerca di spiegare il mondo: ci mostra quanto possa essere indecifrabile. E ci ricorda che a volte, l’unico modo per affrontare l’assurdo è riderne. Non per banalizzarlo, ma per capirlo fino in fondo.
Kafka e Pirandello – affinità nel riso che fa pensare?
Franz Kafka e Luigi Pirandello, pur partendo da contesti diversi, condividono una visione dell’umorismo come strumento di svelamento. In entrambi, il riso nasce da una frattura tra ciò che appare e ciò che è: per Pirandello, è il “sentimento del contrario”, per Kafka, è lo straniamento radicale da un mondo che sembra obbedire a regole indecifrabili.
Pirandello: umorismo individuale, maschere sociali, conflitto tra essere e apparire
Kafka: umorismo sistemico, alienazione, sottomissione all’assurdo
Punto in comune: il riso come forma di pensiero critico, non evasione
L’attualità del riso amaro di Kafka
L’umorismo assurdo di Franz Kafka continua a risuonare con forza nel nostro tempo, come un’eco persistente che attraversa epoche e contesti diversi. La sua risata, mai leggera, è una lama sottile che taglia il velo dell’apparenza, rivelando ciò che spesso preferiremmo ignorare: l’insensatezza delle strutture che regolano le nostre vite, la fragilità dei nostri ruoli sociali, l’incomunicabilità e la solitudine che abitano l’esistenza.
Nel suo umorismo grottesco e spiazzante, Kafka non propone soluzioni, ma offre qualcosa di ancora più prezioso: la possibilità di riconoscerci nell’assurdo, di guardarci allo specchio mentre ridiamo amaramente delle nostre paure, delle nostre contraddizioni, dei meccanismi invisibili che ci dominano.
Questa capacità di usare il riso come strumento di comprensione, come chiave per accedere a una riflessione profonda e autentica sulla condizione umana, è ciò che rende Kafka ancora attuale e imprescindibile. Il suo umorismo – che è anche il suo modo di affrontare l’angoscia, il non-senso, l’oppressione – ci parla oggi con la stessa intensità di ieri. Ci invita a non fuggire dall’assurdo, ma a esplorarlo, a riderne senza superficialità, a trasformare il riso in pensiero.
Accanto ad autori come Pirandello, Beckett o Vonnegut, Kafka resta una delle voci più singolari e influenti dell’umorismo riflessivo: non per consolarci, ma per svegliarci.
L’umorismo Kafkiano in breve
Tipo di umorismo: sottile, amaro, disturbante
Temi principali: assurdità, alienazione, burocrazia, vergogna, trasformazione
Tecniche ricorrenti: deformazione del reale, logica illogica, situazioni imbarazzanti
Funzione: riflessione esistenziale, critica sociale, catarsi emotiva
Stile: grottesco, paradossale, profondamente simbolico
L'umorismo di Luigi Pirandello e differenza con comicità e ironia
Scopri l'umorismo di Pirandello: definizione, differenza con la comicità, e il ruolo dell'umorismo nelle sue opere e nella società.Francesco Scatigno (Magozine.it)
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China and Africa are destroying the DeBeers diamond cartel
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For over a hundred years, DeBeers has dominated and controlled the global diamond trade.But today, Chinese factories are mass-producing lab-grown diamonds, which are chemically identical to natural stones, and prices are collapsing worldwide for both man-made and natural diamonds.
DeBeers sources most of their rough diamonds from mines in Botswana, and the new government there is determined to move DeBeers' value chains to Botswana itself, thereby retaining billions of dollars in industry revenues in-country.
Anglo-American is DeBeers' parent company, and they are trying to divest their holdings. But even after writing off $4.5 billion in book value in two years, no buyers can be found.
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Anglo-American is DeBeers' parent company
As if a mining company in Africa couldn't be more cracker, they are named anglo-american
God, I remember when this was a super-secret technology, where you had to book a plane to the (recently, at the time) former USSR to get a look at some highly experimental machines that were producing itty bitty little yellow diamonds via some bizarre anoxic chemical vapor process. I read about it in some indie magazine 25 to 30 years ago I think?
Even back then DeBeers was peeing its pants over the possibility that law-grown diamonds not only existed, but were nearly impossible to distinguish from mined diamonds by sight alone. I'm so happy to see them finally get what's been coming to them.
La storia del rock alternativo pronta a travolgere Roma: Melvins in concerto all'Eur Social Park
Doppio concerto da non perdere il 30 luglio per tutti i fan del rock alternativo: l'Eur Social Park di Roma ospiterà i Melvins, una delle band più importanti e seminali del genere. A impreziosire e rendere ancora più speciale la serata sarà la presenza dei Redd Kross, per un live all’insegna dell’energia pura.
Oltre 40 anni di carriera per una discografia che ha rimodellato, se non abbattuto, i confini tra punk, metal e grunge in una formula unica e sapientemente coniata, i Melvins, pur tra cambi di lineup, non hanno perso un briciolo della loro carica e della creatività inesauribile.
Dopo il grande successo del tour 2023, Buzz Osborne (King Buzzo se preferite) e compagni sono pronti a far tremare Roma con la loro musica, mostrando ancora una volta perché sono considerati un punto di riferimento assoluto nel panorama internazionale.
Tremendamente influenti ed estremamente prolifici, stiamo parlando di una band in grado di influenzare gruppi come Tool e Nirvana e non c'è da stupirsi del fatto che il loro ritorno in Italia fissi un appuntamento a cui non mancare per gli amanti delle sonorità potenti e fuori dagli schemi.
Tra classici intramontabili e novità più recenti, il palco dell’Eur Social Park si prepara a diventare il terreno di un concerto che si prospetta intenso ed emozionante, nel segno di una band che ha già lasciato nella storia un'impronta indelebile ma che vuole ancora marchiare a fuoco i palchi di tutto il mondo.
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Under the regulations, which are set to take effect on Oct. 10, platforms will have to label political ads, disclosing who paid for them, and what campaign, referendum or legislative process they’re connected to
Oh yeah they sound really unworkable, who could possibly expect meta to take this very basic information from their advertisers and then display it in a small text box.
Of course not seeing the ads is even better so I don't think anyone will complain.
New Executive Order:AI must agree on the Administration views on Sex,Race, cant mention what they deem to be Critical Race Theory,Unconscious Bias,Intersectionality,Systemic Racism or "Transgenderism
cross-posted from: mander.xyz/post/34629331
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/34472919
New Executive Order:AI must agree on the Administration views on Sex,Race, cant mention what they deem to be Critical Race Theory,Unconscious Bias,Intersectionality,Systemic Racism or "Transgenderism
Preventing Woke AI in the Federal Government – The White House
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, it is hereby ordered: Section 1. Purpose.The White House
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Patrushev: NATO’s actions are similar to practicing aggression against Russia
Patrushev: NATO's actions are similar to practicing aggression against Russia
The actions of the North Atlantic Alliance are very similar to practicing full-scale aggression against Russia. Nikolai Patrushev, assistant to the head of the Russian state and chairman of the Maritime Board, told RIA Novosti about this.newsmaker1 newsmaker1 (English News front)
Valentyn Grigorov: Anti-Ukrainian sentiments are growing in the world
Valentyn Grigorov: Anti-Ukrainian sentiments are growing in the world
In recent months, it seems as if the world has been undergoing a real rethinking of the causes, nature and prospects of the conflict between Russia and Ukraine. Until recently, criticism of Kiev came mainly from marginalised figures and populists.newsmaker1 newsmaker1 (English News front)
Ukraine Lost Nearly 3,000 Soldiers in Battles With Russia's Tsentr Battlegroup Last Week
Ukraine Lost Nearly 3,000 Soldiers in Battles With Russia's Tsentr Battlegroup Last Week
Russia's Tsentr Battlegroup has eliminated up to 2,975 Ukrainian soldiers over the past week, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Friday.Sputnik International
Women are anonymously spilling tea about men in their cities on viral app
Women are anonymously spilling tea about men in their cities on viral app
When Cid Walker opens the Tea app, she’s greeted by a barrage of posts about men and their apparent "red" and "green" "flags."“He’s a cheater,” Walker said, reading some of the comments on one post out loud.Angela Yang (NBC News)
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So I've had multiple GF's who were physically abusive, cheaters, chronic liars, gaslighters... so is there a version of this for me? Or are men never victims still?
So glad this didn't exist like ~15 years ago. My one ex, who decided to start a relationship with her co-worker, while we were looking for and then financing a house... When I broke up with her (like 1 week after closing), while I was trying to process the betrayal, she took to Facebook and text messages spamming EVERYONE a fake story about me, trying to pass herself as the victim. Even including a fake pregnancy! All to make me look bad because I caught her cheating. Thankfully, this app didn't exist, and several of my female friends reached out to me for my side of the story.
But all the "stories" on that app, 100% vetted, right? We get unbiased, both sides of the story, right... Evidence was required... right? Because imaging the harm someone could do if they were just petty, or scornful, of just bored. It's not like women have ever made false rape claims... right....
I'm not trying to imply my situation is what all men go through... but you can't just dismiss it, or other men, because it doesn't fit into your social media-fueled narrative. Yes, some men suck (and that's selling it short). But, women are just as capable of the same level of suck. We are all, after all, human.
I don't know why they upset you "almost as much" - people who pretend to be victims are in fact people that are victimizing others. "Other sides" notwithstanding, you said it yourself in so many words: they're also further victimizing actual victims.
I frankly find it more inexcusable.
Issues logging in as of this am with iOS clients. Mobile web is fine.
Having issues with all iOS app clients, both App Store and TestFlight versions. iOS is latest version.
I’m unable to login via any clients.
I had no issues with Voyager yesterday. I was able to browse, vote, and join/remove communities. This morning, I couldn’t see any communities and the feed looked the same as yesterday.
I logged out of Piefed in Voyager, and now I can’t log back in. I keep getting incorrect password if I use my username/password, and connection problem if I use my email and password.
I tried Mlem and Blorp, and both tell me incorrect username/password. I am able to log into web just fine via Safari and Orion.
I tried with and without VPN, and I’m not using WiFi.
I don’t know if it’s related to the human check as posted a couple of hours ago, but it kind of feels like it might be.
EDIT: I just found this logged issue. My username has an uppercase Z, so it would break my login?
Thanks!!
Commit 3534eda5e3 broke API login by username when the username was created with capitalization
Not sure what the best approach for a fix would be just wanted to document the issue so it's known. I feel like the commit is missing a db migration to lowercase all the usernames in the db.Codeberg.org
Protest vote
[orange dude, angry, fist raised]
I will protest against both sides of the evil capitalist elites that are ruining society by voting for an anti-system extreme!
[pink gal, looking candid]
Since your protest is based on human values and a desire for more social justice, this means you're going to vote far left?
[pink gal, looking scared]
Isn't that right?…
[orange dude starts laughing so hard tears comes from his eyes and his hairpiece starts flying]
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Starlink outage overnight affects Ukrainian military, prompts calls to diversify
Separately, Reuters reported that Elon Musk’s Starlink systems used by Ukrainian military units were down for two and a half hours overnight, a senior commander said, part of a global issue that disrupted the satellite internet provider.
Starlink experienced one of its biggest international outages on Thursday when an internal software failure knocked tens of thousands of users offline, the agency reported.
The commander of Ukraine’s drone forces, Robert Brovdi, later said the incident had highlighted the risk of reliance on the systems, and called for communication and connectivity methods to be diversified.
Ukraine looks to secure funding for 10 Patriot air defence systems and discusses meeting with Putin – Europe live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy says country is trying to find sponsors for air systems and that negotiators discussed him meeting PutinJakub Krupa (The Guardian)
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Maybe drops open-source support - pivots to B2B data and scenario planning
The team behind Maybe just released version v0.6.0, and with it announced a major shift: the project is officially moving away from open-source development and pivoting to a B2B-focused model.
From now on, Maybe will focus on enterprise-grade data analysis and scenario planning tools for businesses. As a result, there will be no further updates, maintenance, or community support
This marks the end of Maybe as a public, code-based personal finance tool.
If you’ve been using it personally, v0.6.0 is the final release. You can keep using it as-is, but don’t expect updates.
Release v0.6.0 · maybe-finance/maybe
Farewell... Maybe 👋 TL;DR Maybe is pivoting to B2B financial forecasting and scenario planning and as a company, will no longer be actively maintaining this repository. What this means: This fina...GitHub
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AI Won't Solve Your Existential Crisis (And That's Perfectly Fine)
AI Won’t Solve Your Existential Crisis (And That’s Perfectly Fine)
Silicon Valley’s latest gospel sounds almost mystical. Artificial intelligence will rescue the West from demographic collapse, bloated welfare systems, and innovation-stifling regulations.Eli Grid (GazeOn)
Confirmed: ChatGPT uses Google Snippets for its Answers [A Test with Proof]
Confirmed: ChatGPT uses Google SERP Snippets for its Answers [A Test with Proof]
I've run a simple but straight-forward to follow test that confirms the reliance of ChatGPT on Google SERPs snippets for its answers.Aleyda Solis (Aleyda Solis - International SEO Consultant, Founder, Author & Speaker)
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Humanity check causing app issues
I fired up Blorp this morning and not comments or new stories would load.
I also have Interstellar installed, so I tried that and I only got this message:
So I tried in my browser. I saw the humanity check ever so briefly, but then was moved along to the site. After that, I was able to refresh Interstellar and it worked. Blorp needed a restart, but looks okay now too.
Less a question than a report...
This bill would fine social media companies $5 million every day for not fighting 'terrorism'
New bill would fine social media companies $5 million every day for not fighting 'terrorism'
The STOP HATE Act wants social media platforms to report their moderation policies and outcomes to the government.Matthew Petti (Reason.com)
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Russia’s war against Ukraine
This photograph, taken on July 24, 2025, shows a damaged residential building following a drone attack in Odesa, amid the Russian invasion in Ukraine. (Oleksandr Gimanov / AFP via Getty Images)
War with Russia could last until 2034, Ukraine’s ex-top general Zaluzhnyi warns. “If we try to establish a ceasefire without building up our future defenses, the war will drag on for many more years,” former Commander-in-Chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.
Global Starlink outage disrupts Ukrainian front lines. Starlink experienced a global outage on July 24, with the cause still unknown. Ukraine’s military confirmed the disruption affected connectivity along the front lines.
Over 23,000 civilians, 113 children trapped in active combat zones in Donetsk Oblast, official says. Ukrainian and Western military experts assess that Russia may escalate its offensive operations during the 50-day period U.S. President Donald Trump allocated for Moscow to reach a ceasefire settlement.
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Over 1,300 residents remain in embattled Pokrovsk, governor says. Vadym Filashkin said the situation in the region is growing more difficult by the day as Russian forces intensify their offensive.
Russia plans sweeping gasoline export ban to stabilize domestic market, sources tell Reuters. The Russian government has resorted to temporary gasoline export bans multiple times over the past two years, typically to address domestic fuel shortages and alleviate high prices.
Anti-corruption
‘We all hear what society is saying’ — Zelensky vows anti-corruption plan within 2 weeks amid backlash over controversial bill. “We see what people expect from state institutions — ensured justice and the effective functioning of each institution,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
Zelensky submits new bill restoring anti-graft agencies’ independence after protests. The bill follows Zelensky’s decision on July 22 to sign a bill that effectively destroyed the independence of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO).
US Senator Lindsey Graham criticises Zelensky’s signing of controversial anti-corruption law. Lindsey urged Kyiv to reconsider the law as “one of the most widely used talking points for ending support for Ukraine is that it was awash with corruption.”
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Beijing is reportedly circumventing Western sanctions by discreetly shipping Chinese-made drone engines to a state-owned Russian manufacturer, labeling them as “industrial refrigeration units” to avoid detection.
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Invisible prisoners — the struggle to free thousands of Ukrainians in Russian captivity
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Marjorie Taylor Greene is spreading lies about Ukraine’s protests. Russia is taking note
Thousands of citizens rallied in cities across the country on the first night with a clear goal: to urge Volodymyr Zelensky to veto a bill passed in parliament that guts anti-corruption reforms, and to express anger with recent government attacks on anti-corruption figures.
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Georgian-Ukrainian music festival ICKPA returns to Kyiv amid shared resistance to Russian imperialism
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Human cost of Russia’s war
Russian glide bombs strike Kharkiv residential high-rise building, injuring at least 41. Some people were trapped beneath the rubble of the multi-story building, Governor Oleh Syniehubov said.
Russian attacks kill 4, injure 33 over past day, damaging UNESCO-protected landmarks in Odesa. Kharkiv Oblast saw the highest number of civilians affected by Russian attacks, which killed three people and injured five others.
International response
Von der Leyen urges China to press Putin to engage seriously in Ukraine-Russia peace talks. “China has an influence on Russia, like the European Union has an influence on Ukraine,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said.
US approves $330 million in military sales to Ukraine for artillery, air defense support. The U.S. State Department has approved two proposed military sales to Ukraine, valued at a combined $330 million, to bolster the country’s artillery and air defense systems, the agency announced on July 24.
Netherlands, OSCE seek investigation into Russian torture of Ukrainian POWs. The Netherlands and 40 other OSCE member states have formally called for an independent investigation into the torture and mistreatment of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russian forces, Dutch Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp announced July 24.
Indian company sent explosives to Russia despite US warnings, Reuters reports. Among the Russian companies listed as recipients of the explosive substance octogen, also known as HMX, is Promsintez, an explosives producer that has ties to the Russian military, a Ukrainian Security Service official told Reuters.
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Kolomoisky embezzlement case to be sent to court. Kolomoisky, the former owner of Ukraine’s largest bank PrivatBank, and five of his associates were charged in 2023 with money laundering and fraud. They are accused of embezzling Hr 9.2 billion ($250 million) from PrivatBank.
Russia deploys additional electronic warfare systems near Estonian border. The systems, deployed near the Russian town of Kingisepp — roughly 20 kilometers (around 12 miles) from Estonia’s eastern border — are designed to jam communications, disrupt radar systems, and assert control over the electromagnetic spectrum.
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Russia deploys additional electronic warfare systems near Estonian border
The systems, deployed near the Russian town of Kingisepp — roughly 20 kilometers (around 12 miles) from Estonia's eastern border — are designed to jam communications, disrupt radar systems, and assert control over the electromagnetic spectrum.Tim Zadorozhnyy (The Kyiv Independent)
McDonald's Combines the Worst of AI & Job Hunting
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Can The Kremlin Finally Get Russians To Stop Using YouTube? Not Yet.
Russian officials have spent years laying the groundwork for a “managed” Internet that authorities could control and surveil. Pushing Russians away from hugely popular YouTube is key.Mike Eckel (RFE/RL)
Porn websites now require age verification in the UK – the privacy and security risks are numerous
Porn websites now require age verification in the UK – the privacy and security risks are numerous
Online age verification technology is not as mature and safe as government and regulators would like it to be.The Conversation
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Keir Starmer under pressure to recognise Palestinian statehood
Keir Starmer under pressure to recognise Palestinian statehood
It comes as French President Emmanuel Macron said France would recognise statehood in September.Paul Seddon (BBC News)
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In cui solo persone folli corrono per più di 100Miglia (163km). Se dovessi pensare con la testa credo che correrei 5km ogni, me in certi casi è meglio che la testa non pensi altrimenti non si farebbe nulla di nulla. Lasciamoci andare, anche nella corsa. La testa è un limitatore a volte...Buone corse
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È ormai un dato di fatto: Thom Yorke è un moderno re Mida della musica contemporanea, perchè tutto ciò su cui mette mano, anche se non è proprio barocco, sfarzoso e luccicante come l’oro, di sicuro è di grande valore musicale. E Amok ne è l’ennesima conferma. Tutto questo nonostante Thom in questa tornata abbia assunto un ruolo piuttosto defilato nel processo creativo, che stando ai racconti dei componenti del gruppo è stato di una sorta di collettiva, mistica session che si è protratta quasi ininterrottamente per pochi ma intensi giorni... rocklab.it/2013/04/03/atoms-fo…
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •My friend came over and told me a story about this crazy date she was on. The guy love bombs her, sets her up with a massage, then in the morning, goes out and eats McDonalds alone and ghosts her. Then repeats every few weeks with love bombs.
I shared that with my discord group and someone said they know that guy too.
Im assuming that's what Tea is for.
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •What happened between the massage and him ditching her to eat breakfast?
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Snot Flickerman
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Stay classy, 4chan. /facepalm
I can understand some people's skepticism on how quickly an app like this can turn into a gossip and defamation tool, especially when those who might be defamed can't access it... but god damn this isn't how to show people that aspect of it.
Also, not to say I don't see the value in apps like these: I absolutely do, they are there for women to protect themselves. I would suspect the number of women misusing it is in the minority and the majority use it appropriately.
Whereas a similar app for men? Those are almost instantly used for things like Revenge Porn. Men are not going to win this battle and prove they are better than women in this regard because the men who would misuse such an app are solidly in the majority. Basically the complete opposite. Events like this prove it.
Anyway, fuck 4chan misogynist freaks.
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in reply to Snot Flickerman • • •I think there’s also a lot of confirmation bias, in the sense that you need to consider why people would seek out such an app. Why would women seek out a women-only app? And inversely, why would men seek out a men-only app? The answer to each will be fundamentally different, which means the user bases will be fundamentally different as well.
Basically, what types of women would go out of their way to engage with a women-only app? Chances are good that the average woman has probably had the thought before, and is doing so to try and stay safe. The active engagement is seen as a positive thing, and she’s willing to jump through a few hoops (like uploading a photo ID) to get there.
Now imagine the inverse. Most guys probably wouldn’t even think of using a men-only app for safety reasons. Like it’s not even on their radar, because safety while dating isn’t something they’re concerned with. Most men probably wouldn’t think of seeking out a men-only app at all. So the pool of men who would be willing to go out of their way to engage with a men-only app is going to look vastly different. The average user likely won’t reflect the average man, because the average man wouldn’t even think to seek out a men-only app. Or if he does, he doesn’t feel strongly enough about it to jump through any hoops to engage. It means the average user would most likely be one of the extremely toxic manosphere/men’s rights advocate/creep/etc stereotypes instead.
To be clear, this isn’t a “not all men” post. Because the reality is that it’s certainly enough men to be concerning. My point is simply that the confirmation bias will be a large factor in whether or not the user base actually reflects the average person.
It’s basically the same way the average Lemmy user doesn’t reflect the average person. If you looked at the average Lemmy user and tried to print that into society, you’d expect the average person to be a Linux-using communist programmer.
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in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •cawp.rutgers.edu/blog/gender-d…
This is for all men and women, not broken down by different factors.
When an average is taken of all the elections, men average 43.67% for Democrat and 50% for Republican for a 6.33% difference. I do also think it's notable that in only one election since 2000 has the support for Republican candidates from men been under 50%, that's 48% for McCain in 2008. I honestly think the voting patterns from the 90's are gone and so while I included those in the averages, I think just touching on votes since 2000 gives a clearer picture with the average for men supporting the Democratic candidate at 44.14% and support for the Republican candidate at 52.58% for an 8.44% difference. That's still a large spread when we're talking the total number of men who vote at all. Somewhere around the size of the entire city of Los Angeles in terms of population.
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in reply to Snot Flickerman • • •I mean...
Looking at mic_check's figures...
Lets say we are just talking straight, hetero people.
We got all straight men at 43:55 Dem to Rep, thats a 22% higher chance of a woman randomly picking a Rep instead of a Dem.
Meanwhile you can just, as a woman who is looking into dating a man...
Just pick a random, single, never married dude.
Bam!, now its 61:37 Dem to Rep, a 65% higher chance a random, never married dude will be a Dem than a Rep.
...
We are talking about these stats in the context of dating, right?
Where people like, talk, get to know each other?
Not just being randomly assigned partners from a slot machine?
Do dating apps not like, allow you to filter by something like this, or... talk/chat to a person, and ask them questions before you meet them...?
Its kind of silly to paint individual people with a broadly accurate brush... when the ostensible whole point is to get to know a person individually.
Sure, use broad stats to form a broadly accurate general worldview, but realize its limitations.
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in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •Disclaimer: Please consider this a sort of fork of your discussion so far, I only mean to say anything about the parts of your comment I actually reference.
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To a significant degree, yes, but I think you are overstating that degree.
Tea is imo more like a gossip app, ala Nextdoor, just specific to dating.
Tea isn't a dating app, it is... I guess you could call it ... dating-app-meta-review app, from a technically minded standpoint?
A supplement to a (or many) dating app(s).
~~But it doesn't actually directly link to~~
[(EDIT: whoops I accidentally a sentence there.)]
It is named 'tea', as in gossiping, the deets, the low down, the real story, etc.
Literally this is their own marketing:
teaforwomen.com/about
It is literally just a replacement for Facebook 'Are we dating the same guy' groups, but better, if you pay, because the Premium account allows you to run background / criminal / sex offender records.
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So, a rough equivalent for guys would probably be named something like MPH, officially Miles Per Hour, unofficially, Miles Per Hoe, I dunno, something edgy for the manosphere crowd, where guys would gossip about cheating girls/women, and also be able to run background checks on them for a premium.
I can guarantee you that men would be broadly interested in such an app if it existed.
...
Maybe not as much in the safety sense of immediate physical danger, but absolutely in the sense of... is this person financially abusive, emotionally manipulative, do they have kids, or a massive amount of debt/bad spending habits, an STI, etc, that they don't mention untill they've been dating you for some time, do they have a history of acting like they're committed when they've in the past cheated whilst acting like they were monogamous?
These kinds of things apply to both men and women, and are far more common to occur in a dating/relationship than physical abuse.
Yes, women are more likely to be the victim of physical or sexual violence or stalking...
But its not like this doesn't happen to men.
I can personally tell you that I, a guy, have been so lucky as to have had all three of those happen to me, done by women.
But lets not just use myself as an anecdote, here are the stats on that from the CDC, last updated before the Trump Admin got into power, doesn't look like they've fucked with this page.
cdc.gov/intimate-partner-viole…
We could quibble about the exact stats of what sex/gender the partner was, and they do cite some studies directly, but uh, oversimplifying to pretend only heterosexuality exists...
About half as many men have been seriously, violently victimized or stalked as women, and I'd be willing to bet the psychological abuse numbers are at least a bit closer to equal if you account for men being unwilling to admit to being victimized in that way due to internalized machismo, 'shut up and deal with it', whatever you want to call it.
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Point of me saying all this is to throw numbers toward countering your claim here:
I agree that it wouldn't represent the average man, but we've got a potential user pool of 50+ million men in the US who've been through a bad relationship and would probably also not want to go through that again.
Again, yes it is absolutely true that women more often experience a more severe form of relationship than men, no argument there.
But I don't think you can just say that a man version of tea would only appeal to blackpilled manosphere men.
Yes, that would likely be a large proportion of the user base, but there are tons of men who are not misogynists and also would like to avoid being played or abused.
...
Also, uh:
You say that,
But what I am seeing is:
fastcompany.com/91374409/every…
The rest of that quote is that the picture is 'verified by the Tea team', but I think we both know that almost certainly means they just use an AI face scanning tool.
Anyway, point is: taking a selfie is a way, way lower bar to entry than taking a picture of your driver's liscense... basically every dating app already does the former, this is totally normal now, whereas the latter is... so uncommon I cannot think of an example.
So....taking a selfie is not that much of a trifle, not a strong potential blocker, for a guy who's already used a dating app in the last 5 ish years.
...
EDIT 2:
Occured to me on reviewing this:
... Yeah, an AI face recognition to verify gender?
How... does that work for trans folks, or even probably just non white women, and are women who are maybe bald or have more typically masculine coded shorter hair cuts, with less stereotypically/heuristically feminine facial features?
AI has fucked up this kinda shit in the past quite badly.
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in reply to mic_check_one_two • • •Eheran
in reply to Snot Flickerman • • •Echo Dot
in reply to Snot Flickerman • • •Well just look at Facebook groups that are dedicated to the same sort of thing and see how catty they get. You know the types that decide that just because a man they have never seen before is in the neighbourhood he's clearly up to no good when he's probably just delivering parcels.
Anyway it doesn't matter if 90% were legitimate and 10% not. They are still defaming people, with no opportunity for those people to correct the record. Anyway I am a much more cynical person, mostly through experience of working in customer service, and I think it's probably more like 50/50.
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in reply to Darrell_Winfield • • •The only site I ever felt comfortable scanning shit like that into was a site that sold things only to military/medics/fire fighters so I had to upload my medic license and my FF cert.
Anything beyond that is a no go from me.
JackbyDev
in reply to Darrell_Winfield • • •panda_abyss
in reply to sunglocto • • •To be fair, I’m not sure why firebase even has a public access option. That’s a recipe for issues.
Though if it’s anything like Google Cloud Store, they hopefully make it very clear that your bucket is public.
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in reply to Eheran • • •I honestly don't understand what op is talking about.
Leaks happen all the time, even in billion dollar companies.
Their comment is the equivalent like, "This is why you should lock your doors!" Like uh okay.
prof
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •This situation would have been easily preventable with basic understanding of what they're doing is what OP is saying. This leak is not something highly complex, it is painfully stupid on the side of the developers.
There's a difference between a hack, where data is exposed, compared to data exposure due to negligence or ignorance on the development side.
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in reply to prof • • •prof
in reply to Eheran • • •Where I'm from there's certificates a company can get, that confirm a certain level of process and IT security. Also a company existing for at least 5-10 years without incidents is a "vetted" company in my books. At least anything that managed to produce a working IT system before 2021 when AI came around.
I also believe there's a bit of bad wording going on with the original comment. Take it up with that guy, lol.
Tlaloc_Temporal
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •This was more like leaving all your valuables in a cardboard box on your front lawn. Anyone can just take it, if they care to look inside the complete unsecured box.
Someone just drove up and tossed the box in their truck. No lock involved.
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Thymos
in reply to Eheran • • •This is something I worry about all the time as well, especially since I've started to learn how to code and experienced how easy it is to mess up and send a list with all registered users to everyone opening a page. (This was in a test environment.)
As a user, there is no proper way I know of to verify an app's security. Most apps are closed source, but even if you could view the code, what would you look for?
Both Apple and Google have a verification process for apps that are published in their app stores, but if these worked, we wouldn't see this happening.
There are academic researchers working on apps and privacy as well, but it's not like you can ask them for a report on an app you're thinking of installing.
I think it basically comes down to trust. Check if a developer has messed up in the past and how they dealt with that, that sort of stuff. And for dating apps there is this interesting article: privacyguides.org/articles/202…
It's a long read (haven't fully read it myself yet) and it paints a bleak picture, but that's the world we live in today.
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in reply to Zetta • • •4am
in reply to sunglocto • • •Now now, I like to shit on vibecoders too but let’s not pretend this is some new problem.
Idiots leave databases on cloud servers exposed all the time rather than deal with their companies often arcane rules for generating certificates
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in reply to 4am • • •Where do you think the AI learned it?
Like, I get that competent coders do it too, but now any skiddie with an idea can cosplay as a developer so this is going to be so much more prevelant
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in reply to 4am • • •Missouri will not prosecute 'hacker' reporter for daring to view state website HTML
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Djehngo
in reply to HereIAm • • •Technically the act passed in 2023 under the Sunak government.
That said; I can't seem to find a vote breakdown and I would not be at all surprised if labour also backed it.
I'm hoping enough public dissatisfaction leads to labour repealing it but I won't hold my breath.
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •sp3ctr4l
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Wow that was fast.
I did not even know this app existed untill about 8 hours ago.
Already comprimised.
EDIT: Also, lol, this arguably is not even largely a hack.
These idiots just had everything stored in a fucking publically accesible firebase bucket... amazing.
They didn't delete anything they claimed to.
Either way you look at it, anywhere on the spectrum from:
A ] A bunch of women reasonably concerned for their safety
B ] A bunch of gossip mongers
... well, they've now all been doxxed, ironic from each angle.
What a fucking disaster.
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𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧
in reply to sp3ctr4l • • •if that’s truly how the leak happened then these people, in any reasonable jurisdiction, would be considered criminally negligent, at the least.
yay compsci ethics courses 😁
boo courts failing to uphold the law >🙁
sp3ctr4l
in reply to 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧 • • •Hooray two tiered legal system, huzzah!
/s/s/s
JackbyDev
in reply to sp3ctr4l • • •While I agree in principle, I think we should still call it a hack. As in "to gain illegal access to (a computer network, system, etc.)" as Merriam-Webster puts it. It shouldn't be legal to do do this just because the website had horrible (non-existent) security. You shouldn't be allowed to rob a house just because the door wasn't locked.
Wispy2891
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Since sensitive data was put on a public bucket, maybe they meant it was their lowest priority?
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •gnu
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surewhynotlem
in reply to gnu • • •At first I was going to call bullshit because I thought you were exaggerating and being ridiculous.
Nope. That's the app. "Anonymous" sharing of pictures and info of other people. Presumably without their permission. That's fucked up.
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blarghly
in reply to surewhynotlem • • •Yeah. I mean, I get it. The concept of the app makes sense. And I would be that, on average, it is/would be used for good.
On the other hand, as a guy, the idea that people are out there sharing reviews of me as a person on the open internet, and I have no way of knowing this, is deeply unsettling. Like, I haven't done anything wrong - just the whole concept feels very gross.
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Donkter
in reply to blarghly • • •surewhynotlem
in reply to blarghly • • •My problem is how it's implemented.
An app where you simply post a name and a location, and then people can DM you with their experiences directly, would be a lot less invasive.
outhouseperilous
in reply to blarghly • • •Sucks it's necessary.
You want women to not just assume youre an insane violent rape monster? Shit like this is how we know. Edit: the women who used this app were the ones who didn't want to asdume you were all subhuman filth, who wanted to protect themselves from the 'few bad apples' without doing splash damage, as they saw it, to the rest of you. And it looks like those naive idiots got proven wrong. There is no way to be safe as a woman or woman categorized person wirh men in your life, except for rare and astounding luck.
Or you could, like, fix your entire gender; idk. I'm still going to hate all of you.
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Feathercrown
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •outhouseperilous
in reply to Feathercrown • • •I kniw right? Its pretty fucked, but sometimes belief that people, or even men, are mostly good gets you raped or crawling through a puddle of your own blood with fewer than four functioning limbs.
Cynical bitches like me though; we tend to make it out.
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JackbyDev
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •Can't tell if you're being transphobic to trans femmes or supportive to femme leaning enbies.
outhouseperilous
in reply to JackbyDev • • •JackbyDev
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in reply to JackbyDev • • •JackbyDev
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •If I wasn't participating in good faith I would've just assumed you were saying something transphobic from the start, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Then I said you sounded like you meant the positive (not the negative) of the two things I thought you meant and you said you didn't mean that. So... I'm not sure how you think I'm not participating in good faith when I did all that. Even now I'm not writing you off as a monster, I'm willing to hear what you have to say. I'm waiting for you to tell me what you meant, but you're just being vague and refusing.
I don't know what's more good faith than giving you two benefits of the doubt and willing to give a third if you'd just explain.
outhouseperilous
in reply to JackbyDev • • •Confident I said no such thing. Cite me doing that. Dont actually, i just didn't, but go look at why you think that.
Read what i wrote. Or my explanation of it. I feel like i was as thorough as i could be without being condescending.
Shame i didn't write anything after the clause
I'm just about done with this fucking place and im done going out of my way to explain myself to people who arent making any effort to understand. Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours, and i don't need the internet to talk to myself-an activity that offers more gratification and novelty, while costing far less disillusionment and alienation.
Think of me what you will. Hell, accuse me of being the spawn of robert galbraith and adolf hitler. I have very few fucks left to give about this place.
Damn. Seems i said that too early. But i feel like I'm done now.
JackbyDev
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •I feel I've communicated well. You keep not explaining what you meant. I want to know. But you're refusing to tell me.
outhouseperilous
in reply to JackbyDev • • •JackbyDev
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •This was your explanation.
I'm good faith, I assumed the best by saying this.
Rather than agree with me, you said this and refused to elaborate, going so far as to tell me to interpret as I like. When I only have two possible interpretations, one positive and one negative, I don't know what else you'd want me take away other than the negative.
So I clarified, in good faith, it you meant the negative thing.
You were vague and refused to give any explanation. I thought it might be two things. When I asked if it was one of them, your response seems to heavily imply it wasn't that one, but refuse to give whatever third thing it might be.
So... What is it? Because you're saying that I am "not making an effort to understand" when I am in fact bending over backwards to give you benefit of the doubt and understand what you mean. You say communication has two sides and you're done trying to uphold mine when I am desperately seeking clarification on what you said but you just refuse to provide it.
What have I missed?
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in reply to outhouseperilous • • •outhouseperilous
in reply to JackbyDev • • •JackbyDev
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •outhouseperilous
in reply to JackbyDev • • •Okay.
JackbyDev
in reply to outhouseperilous • • •Zomg
in reply to gnu • • •I think it depends on people's intent and purpose for using this service. I'm overall not a fan of someone taking and sharing pictures of me without my consent, or making claims that can't be defended...
The group of women legitimately using it for safety is fine, in a general sense.
The group of women using it as gossip and entertainment is not.
DrSteveBrule
in reply to Zomg • • •Revan343
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in reply to Revan343 • • •lunardroid
in reply to Zomg • • •It promotes safety, but at the same time it promotes some toxicity in relationships. What would you think if you knew that if your got into a disagreement with your partner that you could end up posted on this app, without any way of arguing back?
𝙻𝚘𝚗𝚐𝙼𝚊𝚌𝚃𝚘𝚙𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚄𝚙
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Maybe I'm just getting old, but the idea of "verifying" my real identity to a faceless website or mobile app is abhorrent.
I guess it doesn't help that governments in some countries (UK, Australia that I know of) are encouraging this bullshit with Trojan horse laws claiming to protect children from adult websites / social media.
Can't help but think there is also an element of pot meet kettle here, when users of an app designed to dox and slander people without their knowledge are now the ones getting doxxed themselves.
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Echo Dot
in reply to omniman • • •How does having my fingerprint prove my age.
The issue is, at some point, they have to connect your "digital you" to your self as a real person, after that they can track you, keep tabs on you. If that data was ever stolen, or a corrupt government rose to power, you're really screwed.
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in reply to Echo Dot • • •kalpol
in reply to 𝙻𝚘𝚗𝚐𝙼𝚊𝚌𝚃𝚘𝚙𝚙𝚎𝚍𝚄𝚙 • • •givesomefucks
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in reply to SaltySalamander • • •hornedfiend
in reply to SaltySalamander • • •Plus the whole moral aspect of such an app. While I agree that women have been mostly objectified their whole existence, this doesn’t help anyone.
We need to get rid of both superficial way of looking at each other ( women: seeking mostly young, beautiful, rich yes men, men: seeking perfect body, face, housewife stereotypes). Both mindsets are equally trash.
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LePoisson
in reply to SaltySalamander • • •If by "personal information" you mean sharing their experiences with certain people ... Yeah I guess.
They weren't sharing addresses and social security numbers or drivers license numbers or other things that would lead to identity theft.
How can you not have sympathy for these women getting doxxed because they wanted to help create a safer space for one another and to help each other out? That's wild.
This is far from turnabout, this is abuse.
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in reply to Ricky Rigatoni • • •Oh my god that's... So stupid, i hate this time line.
Dirty water that would behave no different if you sifted out the proteins.
Revan343
in reply to Bronzebeard • • •dandelion (she/her)
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •The replies in this thread are disturbing, giving me a sense that Lemmy has a misogyny problem; maybe I was naïve, but I expected outrage about 4chan doxxing women trying to protect one another, instead I see lots of revenge enjoyment as if being doxxed on 4chan is justice for ... warning one another about dangerous men they encounter when dating?
The inability to empathize and take seriously the threats posed to women or to understand their motivation to protect one another is alarming.
There is no good faith extended, but also no evidence presented that instead of safety the app was just for gossip, it's just taken as assumed that women are wrong for using Tea and they all deserve to be doxxed.
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in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •dandelion (she/her)
in reply to sandwich.make(bathing_in_bismuth) • • •LePoisson
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •Your comment was on top for me in my app, so I was like "oh how bad could it be.". Holy shit you're not wrong, there's some disgusting comments that are getting voted up.
I'm low-key disappointed and appalled by these community members who believe these women "deserve" it for ... Trying to help each other be safer?
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𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧
in reply to LePoisson • • •saw this happening here, saw it happening in reddit threads on the topic, saw it all over the media cycle in the comments.
i agree, people’s visceral backlash against this app is steeped in a deep misogyny. most of these comments have a vapid absence of any sort of even basic recognition towards these women as people. talking about them like they’re abstract figures or test subjects up in here.
watching people take somewhat valid privacy concerns as an excuse to let loose their most toxic feelings towards women used to be the sort of thing only losers or emboldened megalomaniacs did in public, even just a decade ago.
in the past years i’ve just seen all my peers, regardless of political affiliation, manipulated into a cult of outrage that serves as another hamster wheel upon which capital may spin.
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Clbull
in reply to 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧 • • •Let's say a vile, manipulative, entitled woman went on a Tinder date with a guy. He insists on splitting the bill rather than paying for her food. She feels insulted.
She then takes to Tea and her local Are We Dating The Same Guy Facebook group, slanders him with false accusations that he tried to sexually assault her, then posts his Tinder, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn profiles online. Suddenly he's being ostracized, receiving nasty messages and even loses his job from women bombarding his employer with negative phone calls, emails and comments about him.
Men have had their lives ruined by false allegations posted to AWDTSG communities before. But opposing the existence of these platforms is "misogyny", apparently.
𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧
in reply to Clbull • • •This is a strawman argument, though. Sure, that can and does happen, but it isn't the existence of spaces like Tea that is problematic, it is the holistic relationship between men and women in our society, generally. Further, I'm clearly not saying opposing Tea is inherently misogyny. It is a very particular kind of reaction that I am talking about, and you know this.
Tea itself really isn't any worse than any other forum. You could have the same thing happen to a man on other platforms, there is nothing unique about Tea in that capacity and it is disingenuous to levy that criticism against the platform in isolation. People dislike it because they have a weird caricature of women in their head and assume every person on this app must have been a gossip or an evil person, yet there is no real basis for that claim other than the fact the audience is mainly women. Hence, the "misogyny," that you seem to not really have the prior life experience to see. You can look through my profile here. I've said plenty in support of men's rights and men's issues as well, I'm really not rabidly in coalition for a particular gender's rights or anything. I'm just calling it as I see it and the reaction to Tea on the web is largely sexist.
No one said false accusations aren't real or that opposing them makes you a misogynist. You're being intentionally obtuse and conflating a critique of people's treatment of women in public discourse with a critique of apps such as these generally to make it seem absurd to point out how sexist some of the reaction to Tea has been. Mostly because I think you saw the word "misogyny" thrown out and for some reason took it as a personal insult or something. I think most people would reflect upon that and I'd hope you would too.
I probably won't further respond because I'm getting the idea honest discourse and dialectic isn't your goal here.
Clbull
in reply to 𝕛𝕨𝕞-𝕕𝕖𝕧 • • •DrSteveBrule
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •Squirrelanna
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in reply to Squirrelanna • • •dandelion (she/her)
in reply to DrSteveBrule • • •cnn.com/2025/07/25/us/tea-app-…
It's a bit like Rate My Professor, but for dating.
Honestly I cyncially expect this kind of app might inevitably exist for rating people of all genders (or that dating apps might incorporate this Uber-style rating system), but the reason this app exists has directly to do with the violence women face from intimate partners.
The point is that men who are enjoying the doxxing of women who have used this app are ignoring the context, or even have a warped sense of the context, as if this is narrowly about (legitimate) privacy concerns and the harms caused by the app.
Even if the concerns about the app are justified, the revenge enjoyment betrays a view much harder to defend, that all the women who used the app are equally cupable, or that doxxing women using the app is equivalent to women doxxing abusive men through the app.
Men are not all equally privileged, but there is a broad inequality both to how violence is distributed and how that plays out in dating situations. Women are not wrong to fear men. One in three women have experienced sexual or physical violence, most of that violence being perpetuated by men.
Since this is the context for the use of this app, it's not neutral to doxx its users or to claim it's fair because men feel (legitimate) concerns about the app's privacy violations.
Facts and figures: Ending violence against women | UN Women – Headquarters
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DrSteveBrule
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •I agree 100% that women face many more dangers especially in the dating scene than men. I'm all for having resources available for them to remain as safe as possible.
I don't see how a Rate My Professor type app would work well for dates. I feel like people would only spend the time to rate poor dates. If you had a really good date with someone, you would presumably start dating them so why would you let everyone else know they are a good person to go out with? I have no doubt there are some awful people out there that others should be warned about, but this type of app is a bit too risky to justify that in my opinion.
The background check feature sounds much more legit, but I don't think a group chat feature needs to exist along side it.
All that being said, anyone enjoying the doxxing of others is just an asshole. There's definitely nothing fair about it from either side.
dandelion (she/her)
in reply to DrSteveBrule • • •yeah, the app has obvious flaws, and the Rate My Professor style approach succeeds or fails depending on the quality of the users and moderators, and could easily be useless or become toxic - either way, I'm not defending this aspect of the app, it's clearly problematic.
Regardless I understand why women would want a resource like this, and that doesn't seem true for those in the comments who see the doxxing as deserved for using this app.
Nevermind the rest of the context, like 4chan being a bastion of right-wing, misogynist trolls who would target an app like this for political reasons.
Lemmy users approving 4chan doxxing women is a major red flag ... it might have something to do with how many Lemmy users come here due to being banned for their behavior on Reddit. Reddit isn't sending their best and brightest, and it shows. (This is just my speculation, though.)
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wizbiz
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •dandelion (she/her)
in reply to wizbiz • • •There is some of that happening, like when women get together and discuss how they're being treated it's "gossip" and implied as immoral.
I think some men might read what you've said and think you are denying any toxic gossip exists, it's important to have nuance and not alienate men who otherwise would be allies, but I think overall your point is well taken.
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WorldsDumbestMan
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •Say a woman breaks up with a man for petty reasons, like the guy switching the channel on TV, or even the other way around.
And she decides to make up reprehensible shit about him on that app.
He essentialy becomes undatable, and he does not know why.
otp
in reply to WorldsDumbestMan • • •WorldsDumbestMan
in reply to otp • • •Ok fine. Dark Voice "Sacrifice the men! It's for the greater good!"
Though I am unironically anti-natalist, and misanthropic, so everyone being single (or well, gay/lesbian) is fine with me personally.
otp
in reply to WorldsDumbestMan • • •Do you really think that's the alternative here?
I can't tell if you're putting on a bit based on your username or something...
WorldsDumbestMan
in reply to otp • • •I'm also Misanthropic and so done with society. I don't have the same stakes in it as everyone else.
I understand why women have to do what they have to, and someone must lose here. To prevent horrible cases of rape and abuse, some innocent men will have to be rendered undatable.
On top of that, dating will become a lot like how job searches are nowadays. Have a gap in your err...dating resume? Something is wrong with you, no date.
A wise thing to do is for men to have their own "Tea" type of app to balance things out. I see no reason not to.
The best advice of course, is to just not date. Whether we like it or not, there are too many people, and they have been irrevocably damaged by pollution, trauma, and poor education practices.
Few of us are wanted in this world (and I don't just mean romantically, and I don't just mean men). When there is too many of us, we behave like locusts, devouring everything. The solution is stop pumping out babies, consuming useless products, or feeling enitled to other's things. This world does not want you, and you should not want it either
I have meet so so so many broken people who have to suffer through no fault of their own, and I had to play the part of support to them. Because really, no one else gave a damn.
You are a truly disgusting species. If there was something to define evil by, it would be the opposite of good. There are many types of good, and humans somehow manage to run counter to it. But the worst thing they do, is betray and cannibalize their own kind.
If you don't want to be kind, don't want to pay taxes, don't want to include others, then you don't fucking deserve it either. It is a choice that can be made at any time, yet so many refuse, can't even wrap their heads around it.
otp
in reply to WorldsDumbestMan • • •You can be child-free and still be married. Anyway.
This would probably be an equal breach of privacy for less gain.
Female Tea (if used properly) is about protecting women from being abused.
Male Tea would probably be more about flagging girls that want expensive dates and don't put out.
Like, sure, go ahead. Have a male Tea app. But the stakes are not the same.
Feathercrown
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •Tea could easily be used for two extremely different purposes:
- Legitimate use to inform and protect women from abusive men
- Illegitimate use to spread misinformation (libel!) about men with no verification of truth or reasonable appeal process
The idea of Tea isn't bad-- I've thought about the potential utility of similar apps myself-- but most people who are reacting badly are recognizing that it's a nearly impossible moderation problem that will be used for bad things too.
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in reply to Zephorah • • •dandelion (she/her)
in reply to Feathercrown • • •of course, the app has obvious problems, but I don't see that as justifying the gloating and sense of revenge enjoyment happening.
Instead I see a kind of discontent about women I find concerning, which seems ignorant of the widespread violence women experience or what it's like for women who take risks when dating men.
Men are not all equally problematic or privileged, but they are generally in a position of power relative to women and are acting like the victims here.
They should direct their discontent to patriarchy which creates the situation where violence against women is dismissed or accepted, and which motivates women to use apps to check if the person they are dating has a history of violent behavior.
Patriarchy which perpetuates the narrative that men are natural predators and women natural prey is what victimizes men here, not the women who rightfully fear and feel victimized by the minority of men who are violent.
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SoftestSapphic
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •I think you are misunderstanding why people are upset.
It's horrible that these women were doxxed.
It's also horrible that a subset of women were doxxing men, which is what brought this negative attention to the site.
Misogyny is real in our society, misandry is real.
Saying things happen for sexist reasons when it was for a logical reason does a disservice to movements that seek equality.
The internet also cheered on the 4chan PII leak that happened recently, not becauase it's a male dominant space, but because they do shitty things like dox people.
Gemini24601
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •JackbyDev
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in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •dandelion (she/her)
in reply to joel_feila • • •joel_feila
in reply to dandelion (she/her) • • •The need for it was not part of my point. The point was a gender flipped app would of course cause some outrage. Immediately there would be people cry "it's just for doxxing, stalking and revenge porn".
But to engage in some good Faith dialoige. Are some men concerned for their safety, yes.
zarkanian
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VinnyDaCat
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •I don't quite understand the outrage in the thread. I've been looking through the comments, trying to see if this ever went beyond gossip and I can't find anything.
From my understanding the app was intended to be a safe space for women to discuss dating. Relaying information about dangerous individuals, or people who cheat. I can imagine that things might have gotten slightly out of hand in regards to anonymous gossip, but is that anything compared to being doxxed? Besides, women, and men have been gossiping behind each others backs for as long as humans have existed. An anonymous app makes it significantly worse certainly, but it is what it is. This behavior is always going to exist for better or for worse. For example, people already discuss this on sites like fetlife since the risk of ending up with someone who wants to batter you for the sake of battering you is somewhat high there.
Surely we can have some sympathy for people who have had their identifications doxxed by 4chan who haven't done anything worse than a bit of toxic gossip at most?
rozodru
in reply to VinnyDaCat • • •you're right as far it's intentions go. I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about what it intended to do what I have a MASSIVE issue with is that it did the EXACT opposite of what it "intended to do."
It didn't provide Women with a "safe space" because women's government issued IDs and their personal selfies were, quite literally, OUT IN THE OPEN. It opened Women who used the app to way more harm.
Their database, and i'm being extremely generous when I call it that, wasn't even password protected. not even a simple plain text password like "password123" there was NO password. at all. period. All I would have had to do was simply see where the app sent the scanned ID's, open a terminal, SSH into it WITHOUT A PASSWORD OR KEY, and then I now have access to the IDs of over 13,000 Women. Hell I probably wouldn't have even had to SSH into it, probably could have opened the damn thing from a web browser.
So when the media is saying 4chan "leaked" this stuff again they're being generous. It's like if you were walking down the street that Tea lived on and you noticed they left their door wide open so you decided to peak your head inside and while peaking your head in you noticed a box right by the door that had thousands of IDs in it so you picked up the box and walked out. Chances are other people got to this box before 4chan did, many people probably did, it's just that 4chan were the only ones to say "Hey I found this house with a wide open door and decided to pick up this box with all these IDs in it, neat huh?"
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in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Never upload PII to social media
Your privacy is not legally protected.
JackbyDev
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •I can't open the article, but I think I read that this was hosted on an unprotected bucket. Assuming that's correct I wouldn't say this was a breach. A better headline would be "Women dating safety app 'Tea' exposed women's PII".
To be 100% clear, I'm not excusing the hackers. I don't believe it's morally correct to publicize something because it is exposed. For folks curious about that you can look into how to ethically disclose vulnerabilities. I still view this as doxxing. I still believe what the hackers did should be a criminal offense, it's just that I also believe the app holds a ton of the blame as well. How can you proclaim to be about keeping women safe while putting them at risk? That should be punished as well.
Like if the storage facility you trusted to hold your stuff never had locks on the doors, shouldn't they take a lot of the blame as well as the thief who found out a door was unlocked?
hopesdead
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in reply to hopesdead • • •One of the definitions of hacking is illegally gaining access to a computer system. It doesn't need to involve any sort of exploit. Stealing from an unlocked home is still stealing. Gaining access to a system by phishing is still hacking. Leaking data that is technically publicly accessible that isn't meant to be publicly accessible is still hacking.
Not that I suspect anything good from 4chan but the proper thing to do would be to disclose to Tea that their data is public and allow them to fix the problem. The ethics of vulnerability disclosure still apply when the vulnerability is "hey you literally didn't secure this at all."
Clbull
in reply to ByteOnBikes • • •Tea is the offshoot of all those "Are We Dating The Same Guy" Facebook groups where ladies gossip, talk shit, slander and creep-shame guys they went on dates with, sometimes throwing around false accusations maliciously to get men ostracized.
On one hand, damn these groups are toxic as fuck and that makes me feel a lot less sympathetic. But on the other hand, this is a textbook argument for why mandatory age verification laws need to be abolished. AWDTSG works as a way to keep women safe when it's used as intended but there are too many women that will slander men with false allegations purely out of spite.
forrgott
in reply to Clbull • • •Right, because only women are the problem, and men are paragons of virtue.
Fuck off
Clbull
in reply to forrgott • • •Did I state that? No?
You can fuck off.