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do they need to whisper so we don’t hear what they did to Suchir Balaji

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Destroy a Microphone

During Prime Days I was dumb and bought some Chinese lamp because it was on sale.
I gotta say, it’s actually awesome — with the app I can change colors, styles, and so on, and I really like it.

The account creation already bugged me, although I think it was only needed for the first startup. I deleted the account since then. The app is in deep sleep on my phone with zero permissions except Bluetooth.

What really bothers me, though, is the built-in microphone for voice commands — on a lamp! I don’t want someone listening to me.
It’s too late to send it back, and I actually want to keep it.

Until now, I’ve just unplugged it from the outlet every time I don’t use it, but that’s very tedious.
So, is there an easier way to completely disable the microphone?
Does putting tape over it completely mute it?
Or would I have to take it apart and desolder it — which I’m probably too lazy, impatient, and inexperienced to do? So is there maybe a smarter or brute force way to do it? im paranoid i dont want my fucking lamp listening to me. sometime i even turn of mic and cam acsess on my phone.

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frongt

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Open it up and break it off.

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FiveMacs

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unsolder it, and maybe even replace it with the proper resistance but yes.

depending how it's made, breaking it off could render the entire thing useless.

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Linsensuppe

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Did that to a Chinese light strip. Not sure it was because I ripped the microphone out, but it wouldn’t turn on a few days later.

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southsamurai

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In a pinch, some superglue liberally applied can either block reception or muffle it so much that anything it could send would be largely useless. Or you can open it up and remove it and hope nothing else breaks in the process.

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Okay, I will help you turn your minestrone into an inediple slop: the kind your grandkids will have nightmares about for years to come.

Step 1: Create a minestrone.

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Seefra 1

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sometime i even turn of mic and cam acsess on my phone

I have some bad news for you. Whatever software switch your phone has to "turn off" the mic, can still be bypassed by either the manufacturer or an attacker that gets root control of the device.

The only way to ensure a mic isn't listening is by either unsoldering it or shorting the + and - contacts. I mean in the case of a phone you can probably do the toothpick thing and then test it and repeat until sound actually quiets, but note that phones can actually listen to you by via the accelerometer :/

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PhilipTheBucket

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Framework laptops have a little physical switch to turn off the camera / mic when you don't want them.

The original SGI webcams, some of the first that ever existed, actually had a physical plastic cover that you could slide over them when you didn't want the camera on. "No, I don't trust your hardware any more than your software. I shouldn't need to. Stop looking at me when I don't want you to, and prove to me that you are not, or else I will be suspicious." Back in those days that was sort of a universal point of view among internet people, I think...

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HiddenLayer555

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Framework laptops have a little physical switch to turn off the camera / mic when you don’t want them.

Unfortunately even this is not that comforting because we don't know how the switch is implemented. Is it actually in series with the microphone data lines? Power lines? Ideally both but you'll never know. It could even just be a software GPIO switch (gonna bet Amazon Echos with their microphone switches are implemented like that) and unless you have the knowledge to check the PCB you'll always have that lingering suspicion.

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Otter

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This is a valid concern with a lot of manufacturers. My gut says that Framework actually does what it says, but here is a discussion about it:

community.frame.work/t/how-do-…

As far as I can tell each switch is a U channel with a light emitter on one side, and a detector on the other. The part you move on the bezel just breaks the light beam. This creates a electronic on/off hardware switch.
Using an actual physical switch would tend to be a source of an intermittent connection over time. Hence the use of optical technology. Same thought process for the screen open switch being a Hall Effect sensor, which can work through a cover.
Both of these switches are optical switches where a vane will block the light from one side to a phototransistor on the other side. The photo transistor will then cut power to the camera circuit, or switch the mic data output from the mic to a dummy output that generates silence.

The webcam light is also hardware for once. A lot of laptops do it with software, where people complain the camera turning on without the light being on. Framework shouldn't have that problem

The classic Technology Connections video: youtube.com/watch?v=m0mMF7GaIR…

How do the camera and microphone switches work?

After peeling back the bezel, I noticed that the camera and microphone switches appear to use these strange non-contact switches that I’ve never seen before.

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PhilipTheBucket

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I sort of suspect that the wiring is in a diagram somewhere. I could be wrong, but that would be my guess. It's not in a PCB, that's up in the bezel where it's just wires and stuff.

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HiddenLayer555

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I sort of suspect that the wiring is in a diagram somewhere

That's called a schematic and not only are those not public, they're closely guarded trade secrets that companies will spend a lot of resources to prevent from leaking to the public.

Also, just because a schematic says the switch is connected a certain way doesn't mean that's actually how it's connected. The only way to prove how the switch works is to inspect the traces in the PCB, which is very difficult to do especially without destroying it. Modern computers have multi layer PCBs that you'd basically need to peel apart to see the inner traces.

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PhilipTheBucket

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Here's the pinout for the webcam component: github.com/FrameworkComputer/F…

Unfortunately it isn't really clear whether the switch positions are in the pinout because it's the mainboard's job to implement shutting off the camera when it's off, or just as information with the webcam module responsible for shutting it off in hardware. I have no idea which it is, but it wouldn't be super-hard for someone capable with EE to take off the bezel and fool around with it and see which it is (or just pay $19 for the magic of buying two of them, if you didn't want to take apart your own laptop for it.)

They say they provide full schematics on demand to repair shops (knowledgebase.frame.work/avail…). I'm not sure why they don't want to just post them publicly, so in that sense you might be right, but they also don't seem like they are trying to keep them or the interface details of the webcam module fully top secret either.

They do seem like they publish enough information that someone could figure out the answer if they wanted to. (People in the forums have fooled around with them and seem to be convinced that they are actually hardware switches: community.frame.work/t/how-do-… IDK whether that's accurate, but that's what the forum people think.)

No idea why you're trying to lecture me from this position of authority about taking apart PCBs and whatnot. Anyway, that's how it works, hope this is helpful for you.

Framework-Laptop-13/Webcam at main · FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13

Documentation for the Mainboard and other modules in the Framework Laptop 13 - FrameworkComputer/Framework-Laptop-13

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nickwitha_k (he/him)

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I can verify that the OS fails to see the microphone and webcam when switched off. This was really confusing the one time that I wanted to use them.

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dylanmorgan

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The HP laptop I have for work includes a little plastic thing that slides over the webcam.

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HiddenLayer555

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So, is there an easier way to completely disable the microphone?

First take it apart and determine what form factor the microphone is.

Is it a through hole microphone with two pins that are soldered to the underside like this? If so it's best to desolder it to prevent damaging the PCB. Use a soldering iron to heat up the pins and pull it out with pliers from the other side. If you don't have a soldering iron and don't want to buy one, I've also seen people using side cutters to cut off the solder joints and loosening the component enough for it to be pulled out through brute force without breaking the circuit board. If you can't or don't want to do either of those and don't mind risking the device, you could just yank it out with pliers like you're an old timey dentist pulling teeth, and hope that the pins break before the board does, might also help to twist it back and fourth repeatedly until the metal gets fatigued and break.

It might also be a surface mount microphone that, as the name suggests, is only soldered to the surface of the PCB. Might look something like this. These are pretty challenging for most people to desolder especially if it's close to other components, but they're small enough that the solder pads don't need a lot of force to break, so if you can get a good grip with pliers you should be able to just rip it off. Twist it until you feel the solder joints snap and then pull straight up. It doesn't really matter if you rip the pad off the circuit board since you don't plan on soldering anything else to it. But what you do need to be careful of is if you peel off more of the copper traces than just the pad, which can damage other components. If you do want to desolder it, touch the soldering iron to the metal casing which should hopefully heat up the entire component enough to melt all the solder joints, then pull it off with pliers. Just be careful not to touch any nearby components with the soldering iron.

Failing all those, you could also take a screwdriver or awl, put the pointy end on the microphone, and hammer it a few times to cave the metal casing in and hopefully crush the audio sensing parts. This will probably destroy the microphone, but less certain than removing it.

I've also heard recommendations about grounding the microphone connections after removal for extra privacy, mainly to prevent the traces from picking up EM waves, but I don't know how to reliably do that without breaking stuff so can't give any advice.

Does putting tape over it completely mute it?

No. Speech is surprisingly robust from an audio perspective and it's entirely possible for audio not recognizable to humans as speech to still be decoded by speech recognition AI. The thing is even if this works 90% of the time and makes the audio completely unusable, you can never prove if your case is in that 10% where there's juuust enough information for AI to detect. You also can't easily hear the actual output of the microphone so for all you know it might be fully intelligible and just muffled. If you're concerned about privacy to the point where you're asking how to remove a microphone, I doubt you'll accept that 10% chance anyway and removing the microphone entirely will save you a lot of anxiety.

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micefrone

BTW, Lemmy lets you edit titles, so you can fix errors like that.

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This is the one true spelling

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liliumstar

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I clicked on this because I thought it was a mouse with an interesting design and microphone.

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Nino477

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sorry for my english. it's my fifth language and it's very stupid language.
xD

Fixed it

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somerandomperson

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FIFTH LANGUAGE!?

What the hell...

Are you traveling around the earth or are you megamind?

(or do you just enjoy learning languages?)

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Nino477

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No no im stupid but my parents taught me two from their respective countries.
German, the country where I live.
Plus English and Spanish in school ;))

Although my Spanish got really bad, so let's say 4,5

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somerandomperson

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Oh. Ok.

Still pretty damn good.

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Nino477

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Thank you, хвала, dziękuję, Danke y gracias

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RogueBanana

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I am a bit confused. How is the manufacturer listening on you? Do you have that connected to your WiFi or Bluetooth? Both should be easy to handle.

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Nino477

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It wants me to connect to wifi but i did not.

Bluetoorh works worse but is a requirement to change color 💀
I hate modern technology

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Nino477

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Even had to set up an acc to statt using it but i used and burner mail

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ArcaneSlime

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Tbf the only reason it can change colors at all is due to modern(ish, at least) technology. My lamp is a lamp. I don't even have a clapper. I hate modern technology lmao.

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RogueBanana

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Ah then once you are done, just uninstall or disable the app and unpair the lamp. Should be good enough.

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Nino477

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1000202787

Sorry but ai: "Distributed environment gateway" in English.

From the red Wi-Fi symbol, it looks like the app is telling you that this gateway (likely for a smart home system, IoT devices, or industrial network) is offline or not connected to the internet.

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yaroto98

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Best way is to test it. Get the voice commands to work. Then non-destructively block the mic. Does tape stop it from working? No? Try sticky tac or playdoh or chewing gum. Does that stop it? Yes? Maybe try something more permenant like hot glue or superglue. Then verify it still doesn't work.

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I never used the voice command, but paranoid it is still listening in the backround.
But it has a mode to match rhe lights to music from my phone.

Not sure tho if it uses my mic from my phone, itself mic or i dunno sound data my phone is processing.
Edit:
Just checked it music effects are processed through the lamp mice.

But i will try cuz maybe it is listening to my music and taping the mic would be proof it doesnt work amymore for other things like listening 24/7 to me ;*)

Also thanks for the superglue ans playsough ideaa, they are good

Edit: i will try to break it apart and destroy the mic otherwise, superglue it is.
Thank you for your input buddy

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Nino477

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Thank you my friend hot glue did the trick 😀))))
No more spying on me !

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yaroto98

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Good to hear!

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FlappyBubble

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Unsolder and replace with a dummy load. If the device requires an app from the manufacturer, uninstall it and throw the lamps away.

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krunklom

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im handy with a soldering iron but dont know jack about the math behind electronics - can you provide any guidance as to how one would do this,

id be comfortable deslldering something and surface soldering something back onto a pcb but i am mot sure how what i would actually need to do to do this.

Also while im on the subject - how woukd one do this with bluetooth with a device with a bluetooth chip soldered to the board?

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FlappyBubble

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You may be able to just remove the microphone. Otherwise you can use a dummy load matching the expected impedance. Either you have to measure the component or look for a part number.

Don't really understand what you're referring to about the Bluetooth chip. The wireless communication should not be affected by removing the microphone.

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/home/pineapplelover

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Disconnect it from internet and bluetooth

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vas

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That's not a full solution really... unless you believe that the bluetooth software on the lamp has zero vulnerabilities that would ever be found and mass-exploited.

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/home/pineapplelover

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That's true. In this case I guess you can try desoldering it

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I had a similar incident with a cheap, 360, cam I bought off of Aliexpress. It was not going to be a security cam, just a cam to keep an eye on some seedlings in a grow box. I set it all up and would review the video of the seedlings sprouting. Then I noticed an weird behavior. At 5:00 AM it would automatically pan and stop, then repeat.

At the time we were experiencing some heavy electrical storms in our area and I have a Woody doll that sits up on a shelf in my lab. When we get electrical storms in this area, my Woody doll will introduce himself all on his own. 'Hey howdy hey! My name's Woody!' It'll freak you out if you didn't know it does that. The Woody doll has a pull string voicebox and I haven't pulled the string in years. I attribute the phenomenon to static charges in the air that activate the voicebox somehow.

So the panning I attributed to this static electrical charge during electrical storms. However, it started becoming a schedule. At 5:00 AM~ it would begin panning. So I got into the guts of the cam and the software. Turns out, no matter what DNS you used, one was already hard coded (1.2.4.8) along with other network settings, into the firmware and seemed to bypass any setting you punched in. The cam operated as a normal cam would and for what I was using it for, it did the job, except for the early morning panning.

So, great, I've allowed a nefarious actor into my network. I removed the cam off the wifi, and destroyed it. Combed through the network for any signs of exfiltration or other angles of attack and found nothing, except that I had pretty much set up a cheap, Trojan horse on my network.

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Is it possible to run qbittorrent and protonvpn in a VM?

Does anyone know how to run qbittorrent and protonvpn in a VM? When I try to run the qbittorrent setup app I get this message (image below) and I don't see anything mentioning a VM in the qbittorrent [dot] org forum.

I am new to torrenting, so I don't really know what to do. I figured/assumed that torrenting/seeding in a VM might be safer as it is another layer deep, and that it may help keep traffic separate (inside the VM: I'd be using a vpn and torrenting, and outside the VM: I'd not be using a vpn and just regular internet surfing). Is this possible?

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Don't run your torrent client in a VM, that doesn't actually provide you with any additional security.

Use a Docker container instead. Binhex has torrent+vpn containers that will fetch the random open port number from Proton and pipe it into qBittorrent for you, as well as make sure the port is updated if the VPN drops. The container also acts as a killswitch.

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smiletolerantly

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Using a docker container provides you with the exact amount of extra protection as using a VM: zilch.

Only advantage is you can use other people's config easily.

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Trump Puts Big Tech Above the Law Amid Industry’s Billion-Dollar Influence Campaign

Long Report: Deleting Tech Enforcement: Trump 2.0 Is Dropping Lawsuits and Investigations Against the $1 Billion-Spending Technology Sector.
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CATL announces sodium batteries that cost as little as $10/kWh, a massive price reduction compared to the current average of $115/kWh for lithium-ion batteries.

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Big if true. They are claiming a lot of things, which would be exciting if I had any reason to believe that they're anything more than claims, probably to juice investment. Sodium ion battery tech is infamous for being heavier per kW such that it's less ideal for EVs, last for fewer power cycles such that it's less ideal for EVs, and the cost savings to switch just hasn't been enough to justify. Here, they're claiming comparable energy density, 2.5-5x the power cycles, and under 10% of the cost compared to lithium ion, all without mentioning how they've managed to achieve all of this. I want this to be true, but I'm not jumping for joy until I see them actually selling this product that they claim will exist at this price that they claim it will be.

I would've been on board with sodium ion tech for home battery solutions connected to smart power management on a market adjusted power plan before ever seeing a breakthrough like this. Imagine subsidizing your home power needs with a battery during the hot summer day and then charging that battery overnight at 2am when there are minimal power needs on the grid. That application doesn't really care about weight, and if you could just call somebody to come swap out your batteries every couple years, then the power cycle limit doesn't really matter either. As for cost, early adopters of the idea could inject the capital for these companies to scale up production which would drive costs down. Suddenly, 20 years from now, who the fuck bothers to have a gas/diesel backup generator at their house anymore? Now if these claims turn out to be true, every home and business could utilize this plan.

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This is mostly interesting for grid scale imho, but nice if it happens. We'll see how it works out for EV's. Their electronics will need major redesign because sodium battery voltages drop a lot more than lithium does during the discharge cycle.

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Large LFP auctions seem to be running US$50 to US$60 a kwh as of a month ago:

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"Watershed moment:" Big battery storage prices hit record low in huge China auction | RenewEconomy

Huge China auction delivers another stunning fall in battery storage prices. It is being hailed as a potential tipping point for "round the clock" renewables.

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Kiev ‘ready’ to discuss territory with Moscow – Merz

The current line of contact should be the starting point in talks between Moscow and Kiev over territory, Friedrich Merz has said

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BeatTakeshi

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Such a neutral source...

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ikr MUCH better than the western crap

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dear russian propagandist, go fuck yourself

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How rude, but i've com to expect that from .world accounts

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Here you go fam
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Ukraine ready to give up lost territories to settle conflict

TEHRAN, Aug. 12 (MNA) – Ukraine may give up the territories it had already lost in order to end the war, a British newspaper wrote.

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Where are the Western outlets reporting on this?

It's almost like not reporting on news that makes your opposition look good is a part of how propaganda works...

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For those that aren't aware, RT dot com is direct propaganda from the Russian government This is like Israel writing an article about Palestine.

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China-built satellite station a ‘shining’ example of support for Namibia

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China backs Africa’s growing space industry by funding and building a data receiving ground station in Namibian capital.

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Kim Keon Hee: South Korea's ex-first lady arrested in bribery probe

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Study: Social media probably can’t be fixed

It's no secret that much of social media has become profoundly dysfunctional. Rather than bringing us together into one utopian public square and fostering a healthy exchange of ideas, these platforms too often create filter bubbles or echo chambers. A small number of high-profile users garner the lion's share of attention and influence, and the algorithms designed to maximize engagement end up merely amplifying outrage and conflict, ensuring the dominance of the loudest and most extreme users—thereby increasing polarization even more.
Numerous platform-level intervention strategies have been proposed to combat these issues, but according to a preprint posted to the physics arXiv, none of them are likely to be effective. And it's not the fault of much-hated algorithms, non-chronological feeds, or our human proclivity for seeking out negativity. Rather, the dynamics that give rise to all those negative outcomes are structurally embedded in the very architecture of social media. So we're probably doomed to endless toxic feedback loops unless someone hits upon a brilliant fundamental redesign that manages to change those dynamics.
Co-authors Petter Törnberg and Maik Larooij of the University of Amsterdam wanted to learn more about the mechanisms that give rise to the worst aspects of social media: the partisan echo chambers, the concentration of influence among a small group of elite users (attention inequality), and the amplification of the most extreme divisive voices. So they combined standard agent-based modeling with large language models (LLMs), essentially creating little AI personas to simulate online social media behavior. "What we found is that we didn't need to put any algorithms in, we didn't need to massage the model," Törnberg told Ars. "It just came out of the baseline model, all of these dynamics."

Study: Social media probably can’t be fixed

“The [structural] mechanism producing these problematic outcomes is really robust and hard to resolve.”…

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Legal groups file complaint against UK Lawyers for Israel director over alleged ethics breaches

Two legal advocacy organisations have filed a formal complaint with the Solicitors Regulation Authority (SRA) against the director of UK Lawyers for Israel (UKLFI).

The complaint, which was filed on 5 August and made public on 13 August, alleges Turner has violated the SRA's Principles and Code of Conduct, including through the use of Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation (SLAPPs), which are legal threats designed to deter free expression on matters of public interest.

PILC and ELSC want the SRA to investigate whether UKLFI, which is not regulated under any UK legal regulatory body, is in effect operating as a law firm, and to bring it under formal regulatory oversight.

Legal groups file complaint against UK Lawyers for Israel director over alleged ethics breaches

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Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

Wed 13 Aug 2025 05.00 EDT
She called for an embargo on all arms sales to #Israel and a cessation of trade agreements – as well as accountability for the war crimes and crimes against humanity with which the international criminal court has charged top #Israeli officials. She also called for a complete Israeli withdrawal from occupied territory by the 17 September deadline set by the #UN general assembly.
“Ending the question of #Palestine in line with international law is possible and necessary: end the genocide today, end the permanent occupation this year, and end apartheid,” she said.

Recognising Palestinian state must not distract from ending Gaza mass deaths, UN expert says

Francesca Albanese, UN special rapporteur for the occupied territories, calls for practical actions and warns against distracting ‘attention from where it should be: the genocide’

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Study: Social media probably can’t be fixed

“The [structural] mechanism producing these problematic outcomes is really robust and hard to resolve.”…

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“Fixing” social media is like “fixing” capitalism. Any manmade system can be changed, destroyed, or rebuilt. It’s not an impossible task but will require a fundamental shift in the way we see/talk to/value each other as people.

The one thing I know for sure is that social media won’t ever improve if we all accept the narrative that it can’t be improved.

We live in capitalism. Its power seems inescapable. So did the divine right of kings. Any human power can be resisted and changed by human beings. Resistance and change often begin in art, and very often in our art, the art of words.

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AItoothbrush

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I mean lemmy is pretty fucking neat, i love it here, no need to fix anything.

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Alphane Moon

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It's got its issues (for me the main one are the tankie scum devs), but it seems to be the best platform there is.

The good thing about it is you can move to clients like Piefed and still access all the content / communities.

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Allonzee

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(for me the main one are the tankie scum devs)

This right here is the crux of the problem and why the problem goes back so much further than the design and algorithms of platforms. We teach kids to focus on individual achievement, to celebrate the self, and we don't teach empathy, something that needs to be taught young and can easily be taught but the west increasingly considers weakness and a dirty word.

When we fail to teach citizens of a society collectivism, because being a member of a society means you are part of a collective whether you decide to be a good collective that functions or one that operates against itself (herp derp competition!) that does not, you get communication between members like this.

"I hate these people fuck them they should me more like MEEEE" "their opinions suck because they aren't more like MIIIINE" and we act as a bunch of petulant infants that resent each other's very existence in OUR world.

If we were taught that it is our responsibility to lift one another up, if we rewarded people in society on the basis of who and how many others they've helped and not how much they hoarded for THEMSELVES, this wouldnt be as much of a problem. We could, now that we don't have to survive in nature, orient our mindsets to the positive, which would have to be encouraged young. Instead we're made to be like... This. A useful state for killing a rival in YOUR hunting area when there's only enough game in the region for one tribe to survive the winter, not so much when trying to build a civilization up. And don't get me started on the counterproductive mindfuck that is nation states and super serious imaginary lines between them, meant to protect hoards of INDIVIDUAL wealth of respective elites.

The problem is, how do you start such a virtuous cycle when everyone from the owners down are only concerned with "ME ME ME MINE MINE MINE?"

Then again you hate tankies, so go ahead and cuss me out for calling out the reality that capitalism, especially when it has effectively conquered the culture, turns people into selfish little gremlins more likely to shoot a stranger than help them.

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Childish take. Perfect example of why western online leftism will always be a failure.

You wouldn't be writing this shit if your family had to leave their due to a russian invasion and then eight years later having to deal with another full scale invasion (with a shad part landing in the house next to yours).

Grow up!

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Oh I think the capitalist "grown ups" as you say only concerned with quarterly GDP and their own individual hoards in charge are doing fine on their own. Don't you?

They don't need some idiot commie child as you say like me getting in the way of this great society's trajectory. This bull is loose!

I lost, we leftists lost, and since the capitalists are destroying the very COMMUNal climate we rely on from one breath to the next, it's too late for us to ever turn it around, as civilization hangs by a thread on the easy baby "just don't shit where you sleep" climate mode we enjoyed and are eviscerating as we speak in the name of year over year metastasis.

What does winning feel like? Is it awesome? Do you feel victorious in your capitalist society?

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What are you on about?

I never mentioned anything about capitalism and communism.

At any rate, tankies are supporters of genocidal, authoritarian state-capitalism, so whatever you're trying to imply is moot.

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Any way to change h264 flatpak update source?

So, as the title says. Cisco consider my country bad, and I can't update h264 package on Bazzite, SteamOS, Mint, you name it. Please don't advice any VPN since Proton on flatpak works awful, and it is half-measure. Thanks

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You can follow this blog post: yselkowitz.github.io/blog/2025…

Should be fine with option 1. Just need to install flatpak-module-tools beforehand.

How to Use OpenH264 with Fedora Flatpaks

OpenH264 provides an open source and fully licenced codec for the widely-used H.264 format. However, due to legal constraints, the binaries thereof must be distributed directly by Cisco, who provides a repository of RPMs particularly built for Fedora…

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ISO

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your life will be better if you stop using both flatpaks and openh264.

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This also affects dnf since OpenH264 is distributed from Cisco's server's, not Fedora's.

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ISO

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Users are better off using a "freeworld" ffmpeg package, or not using Fedora at all. The cisco decoder is shit.

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Why the hate on flatpaks? Am I missing something?

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They're new, and they make decisions for you.

As a new user, I've never had trouble with them.

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You are in a thread where a user is having a problem because of the push for flatpaks, and because of some distros like Fedora crippling their packages and providing objectively worse alternatives on purpose (because they don't want to risk ~~RH~~ IBM getting sued). If the user was using some sane community distro like Arch, the user would have never come to realize that such unnecessary issues even exist.

As for flatpak hate specifically, see my ramblings here.

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Linux dev quits after "personal attacks" from user over Kapitano antivirus tool

Kapitano, a fast-rising Linux antivirus tool has been discontinued after its creator shut it down, citing "harsh words" from a user.

https://www.neowin.net/news/linux-dev-quits-after-personal-attacks-from-user-over-kapitano-antivirus-tool/

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Someone posted a clear breakdown, one of þe points being bloat. Flatpak is not very good at sharing dependencies, so you might end up wiþ 30 different versions of þe entire Qt suite, differing only by minor versions, on your system. It eats up HD space very quickly. Þat one particular user ran out of hdd because flatpaks. Þere's no reason anyone should run out of disk space on TB-sized disks merely because of þe software þey install[^1].

It's not necessarily bad design, or even a bad idea, unlike Snaps. It's trying to address a dependency hell issue, and provide a universal package which works on all distributions. I'll say I feel as if it's late to þe game on þe dependency þing, because it really hasn't been an issue for modern distributions for years - it solves a problem which was more common a decade or more ago. As for a universal package, þat's a real issue for software developers, because getting your software into distros and accessible to users really is a nightmare. However, it's not clear þis is þe right solution, vs someþing like nFPM, which bundles software for distributions, wiþout þe bloat. Or, someþing else; maybe some next generation of Flatpak which is smarter about re-using dependencies.

[^1] unless you're working wiþ LaTeX or Haskell, and in some cases, Node

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nFPM is not FPM - a simple deb, rpm and apk packager written in Go

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Thank you

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UK expands police facial recognition rollout with 10 new vans heading to a town near you

Live Facial Recognition technology to catch high-harm offenders

Named and contactable neighbourhood police officers will also be in place in every community.

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Microsoft sells cloud VMs for when Windows 11 inevitably breaks

MS confidence in Windows 11: Pay us to host VMs for when your desktop inevitably dies

: Windows 365 Reserve offers 10-day cloud PCs when your machine goes kaput – but you'll still need another device to access them

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No country for calls. Russian censorship agency confirms throttling voice calls on WhatsApp and Telegram to “fight crime”

Roskomnadzor, Russia’s state censorship agency, has officially confirmed it is restricting voice calls on the “foreign” messaging applications WhatsApp and Telegram, a move it clai...

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I Have Found the Best IPTV Service in 2025

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Uso da Inteligência Artificial na Administração Pública de SC em pauta na ALESC

Está em pauta hoje (13/8), na ALESC – Assembleia Legislativa de Santa Catarina, um Projeto de Lei de autoria do deputado Mário Motta que dispõe sobre “os princípios e diretrizes para o uso da Inteligência Artificial no âmbito da Administração Pública Estadual“, e estabelece outras providências. O texto do PL pode ser acessado aqui (arquivo PDF).

O PL estabelece critérios importantes, como “não discriminação”, “transparência” e “auditabilidade”, mas conta com o seguinte texto no Art. 7°: “O Poder Público facilitará a adoção de sistemas de inteligência artificial na Administração Pública e na prestação de serviços públicos, visando à eficiência e à redução dos custos”. Como seria essa facilitação? Como comentou o amigo e engenheiro de dados Cudo, essa “redução de custos” também é outro ponto que precisa de mais atenção, pois pode até gerar mais custos, além de questões como a necessidade de capacitação dos servidores.

Mas o que mais me chamou a atenção é a necessidade de priorizar (ou até condicionar) o uso de IAs desenvolvidas no Brasil e, de preferência, em código aberto, que é auditável de fato e transparente, já que se trata da utilização de informações estatais. Em tempos de debate sobre a soberania digital, seria um ponto fundamental.

O ideal mesmo seria realizar uma audiência pública com pesquisadores, representantes da academia e organizações do terceiro setor dedicadas ao assunto.

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I started losing my digital privacy in 1974, aged 11

We already live in a world where pretty much every public act - online or in the real world - leaves a mark in a database somewhere. But how far back does that record extend? I recently learned that record goes back further than I'd seriously imagined.
On my recent tour of the United States (making it through immigration checks in record time, thanks to facial recognition), I caught that bug, the same one that brought the world to a halt half a decade ago. But I caught it early, so I knew that I could probably get some treatment.
That led to a quick trip to an 'Urgent Care' - the frontline medical center for most Americans. At the check-in counter, the check-in nurse asked to see some ID, so I handed over my Australian driver's license. The nurse looked at the license and typed some of the info on it into a computer, then they looked up at me and asked: "Are you the same Mark Pesce who lived at...?" and then proceeded to recite an address that I resided at more than half a century ago.
Dumbstruck, I said, "Yes...? And how did you know that? I haven't lived there in nearly 50 years. I've never been in here before - I've barely ever been in this town before. Where did that come from?"
"Oh," they replied. "We share our patient data records with Massachusetts General Hospital. It's probably from them?"
I remembered having a bit of minor surgery as an 11 year old, conducted at that facility. 51 years ago. That's the only time I'd ever been a patient at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Good thing we're paying for all these data centers!

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This anime is surprisingly good. To think I almost dropped it because the first episode was a bit boring.

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What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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lmfao hooman rights is when you do genocide and jail people protesting it

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Archaeologists Uncover Majestic Eastern Baths in Ancient Roman Ilici

After nearly a decade of meticulous research, the archaeological team from the University of Alicante (UA) has

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The most utilitarian vehicle

Captions cannot make this image any justice

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Remember_the_tooth

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What make and model is it?

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GAZ 452

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are you sure it's not a gaz floaty boy? lol

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No, that's a common misconception. It's a gaz water bro. You can tell by the chines on the hull.

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Thanks!

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UAZ-452/УАЗ-452 (via reverse image search)

First generation of Russian off-road military minibus by «UAZ».

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Thanks! I forgot we can do that. I'll try not to ask people to search things for me when I have the tools.

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I remember in Battlefield 3 the Gaz jeep could swim, but only one map actually had the jeep amd water.

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China's green energy boom could spell the end of the fossil fuel age

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Except the anchor that is America will keep fossil fuels going forever.

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Devolution

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Oh come on! Cheetolini knows best that fossil fuels are the future. All this woke green energy talk.

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Vanishing Culture: Why Preserve Flash? [Internet Archive Blogs]

Flash flew across the mid-2000s internet sky in a blaze of glory and unbridled creativity. It was the backbone of menus and programs and even critical applications for working with sites. But by 2009, bugs and compatibility issues, the introduction of HTML5 with many of the same features, and a declaration that Flash would no longer be welcome on Apple’s iOS devices, sent Flash into a spiral that it never recovered from.
But thanks to the Archive’s emulation, Flash lives again, at least as self-contained creations you can play in your browser.
What emerges, as thousand of these Flash animations and games arrive, is what part it played in the lives of people now in their twenties and thirties and beyond. “Almost like being given a moment to breathe, or to walk into a museum space and see distant memories hung up on walls as classic art,” our patrons wrote in.

Book Talk: Lucky Day with Chuck Tingle (IN-PERSON)

The Internet Archive is thrilled to host Chuck Tingle and his upcoming novel Lucky Day, for a book talk presented by The Booksmith! We can\'t wait to see you there, […]\n

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Gaming on Linux hasn't been great so far...

tl;dw their performance numbers don't match up to what we've seen in the past. Some pretty significant decreases in performance over Windows. I think there's clearly some sort of configuration error there. They also ran into the old dual-boot problem where Windows overwrites the Linux partition.

In my opinion this is lazy and irresponsible reporting. I don't at all mean to discount his experience, they are legitimate concerns, and it's fine to show the struggles of using Linux, but it's very clear he (admittedly) doesn't know what he's doing, and they need to consult an expert (or even a casual user) to figure out what the problem is before reporting. He said in the last video that Bazzite reached out to him to let them know if he has any problems so they could help but he obviously did not do that. As is, it just makes Linux/Bazzite look bad.

I hope he follows up with another video discussing the solutions.

What do you think?

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¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯ average non-linux tech youtuber video. Something goes wrong on windows = user error, something goes bad on linux = OS fault

They also ran into the old dual-boot problem where Windows overwrites the Linux partition.

This one kinda makes me laugh tho. Other than work I don't know why people would put up with that level of bullshitery from an OS

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The fact that M$ forced uefi on everyone then couldn't implement it properly on their own and does this fuckery instead, should make it very clear the quality of the rest of their work.

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JcbAzPx

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It's not like it was an accident or that they didn't know what they were doing. This is working as intended as far as they're concerned.

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Ep1cFac3pa1m

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That’s why I put my Windows install and my Linux install on separate drives. I understand that not everyone has two drives to do this, but to anyone who does, it can save some headaches.

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lightnsfw

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I did that and windows still somehow fucked up my secure boot enrollment for Bazzite when I did an update.

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Ep1cFac3pa1m

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I don’t have secure boot set up, and I’m afraid to enable it. I’m not sure what it will do to both OSes…

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lightnsfw

in reply to Ep1cFac3pa1m • 1 mese fa • •

I turned it off after that because no matter what I tried I couldn't get my Bazzite install to boot and I ended up having to start over. It did work fine up until then, just had to enroll Bazzite which they had instructions for on their site. Not sure it's worth it to have it on though when things like that can happen, if I'd been able to fix it I probably would have kept it.

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Ep1cFac3pa1m

in reply to lightnsfw • 1 mese fa • •

I never really even thought about it until I tried to play the BF6 beta and it told me to fuck off. I’m not crazy about kernel level anti-cheat anyway, so it might just be my excuse to keep my money instead of giving it to EA.

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poVoq

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

Their critic seem fair? Sure the benchmarks are a bit unfortunate for Linux because all except Cyberpunk 2077 are games not very popular and not optimized well in Proton, but they don't seem to have selected them specifically to make Linux look bad.

And the boot error... well yes those things sometimes happen, especially when you dual boot and are a Linux noob 🤷

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Ulrich

in reply to poVoq • 1 mese fa • •

I didn't suggest that it was unfair. I said it was lazy and irresponsible.

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JillyB

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

How? The point is to show the average windows gamer what the experience might be like to switch to Linux. They did that.

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Ulrich

in reply to JillyB • 1 mese fa • •

Again, please read the OP.

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DreamButt

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

I think part of the issue is people don't remember all of the little tricks they've learned over the years getting windows to work for them. So when they find Linux and have to learn a whole bag of them it feels like it's not worth it compared to something that "just works" (in their mind anyway)

Duel booting definitely isn't a viable strategy for most people imho. The best situation would be seeing crappy everyday laptops sold in bestbuy or whatever with either windows or some gaming configured Linux. People shouldn't have to think about the OS as much as possible

Prebuilts and preconfigured systems are where most people live. It's also often where most gamers start before diving into something more sophisticated for the sake of things like performance

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Mactan

in reply to DreamButt • 1 mese fa • •

"all the little tricks" so damn true. meet a lot of first timers that dispense with any preconceptions and won't even right click files to see what options are available

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esteemedtogami

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

This is a shame to see. I haven't watched Jay recently because I feel like his content has kind of gone the Linus route of being more entertainment focused vs a channel like GN where they have very strict and regimented testing methodology. Even as entertainment though, I think this needelessly smears Bazzite. His experience is valid, but the conclusion being "the OS's fault" or "Linux not being there yet" is kinda harmful. Yes, kernal level anti-cheat is a huge problem. But as a lifelong Windows user who myself converted last year and has not had to go back because all the games I want to play work, my experience has been that my games run better through Proton than they do natively on Windows. I hope there's a followup at some point soon where he tries again with a fresh install on its own drive. Even if the reporting isn't scientific (it doesn't have to be), I would expect his experience to be better.

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the_q

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

It's so weird that people with a huge platform can't seem to get Linux right, but tons of us Joe Schmos have no problems.

geneva_convenience doesn't like this.

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LoreSoong

in reply to the_q • 1 mese fa • •

I think people just don't remember how long it took them to "learn" windows. they were forced to because there was no viable alternative. also Im sure these tech tubers don't enjoy feeling stupid in front of their audience. I would not be surprised if comments like this are huge jabs to the ego of someone like linus or jay.

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hobowillie

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

A few months ago, I switched from gaming on Windows to full time gaming on Linux. I have the same hardware for both but my Linux gaming experience is much jankier than it was on Windows. I have more available resources (Mint is much leaner than 11, even with cutting out Windows bloat), but games have odd hang ups and crashes that never happened before my switch.

Discord also works poorer in Linux, so I have to mess with that during gaming sessions as well. It worked much better after I removed the version I installed through snap but now I have to manually download and install an update every time it wants an update, which is frequently. Discord definitely worked better on Windows.

Also, my buddy and I built identical gaming computers at the same time and he stayed on Windows. My computer will crash or stutter on lower settings in games while his doesn't at the default detected settings, which are usually higher since I had to back mine off to ward off the issues.

That all said, it feels like I am gaming on XP in 2003-4. Games mostly work but GPU (NVIDIA) drivers are a pain in the ass and I occasionally have to do some troubleshooting to get things to work and and deal with crashes that I did not have before the switch.

I think the switch is for the best overall but I won't pretend like Linux gaming is equal (or better) to gaming on Windows. I am learning a ton about Linux but overall, out of the box, I miss Windows features and accessories and Linux needs a lot more configuration to do the same things. And even then, it is still not at the same quality for quite a few features.

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msmc101

in reply to hobowillie • 1 mese fa • •

GPU (NVIDIA) drivers are a pain

hmmmm i wonder what the issue could be

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Demdaru

in reply to msmc101 • 1 mese fa • •

Doesn't matter for everyday Joe ^^ Linux ain't just workin -> it just ain't worth it

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LoreSoong

in reply to msmc101 • 1 mese fa • •

Nvidia gpus are in a huge amount of PCs out there right now. many users are going to make the switch to linux not knowing about the closed source drivers. yes its obviously Nvidias fault but dont be so brazenly "WELL DUH" when most people arent going to buy a new GPU just to test out an different OS. or even think to buy from a particular company due to business practices that only affect people on linux.

that being said im currently on a Nvidia GPU and for the most part Im having minimal issues. If @hobowillie needs some help I will gladly offer my limited knowledge but I understand if you've given up on Linux for the foreseeable future.

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hobowillie

in reply to LoreSoong • 4 settimane fa • •

My issues are also fairly minimal. I do have crashes and stutters I did not have before switching to Linux, but they have been manageable and (mostly) isolated events.

I had issues with Warhammer 40,000: Darktide the most but the issues seem to have mostly subsided and I don't play that game all that much, anyhow. It was the one I had to really knock back settings and turn things off that were on by default to make it work reliably.

I had the most trouble with Dune: Awakening but that is a Funcom game and people were reporting similar issues on Windows to what I was having. But notably, my friend with the exact same hardware was not experiencing those issues. But we synced our settings and seem to have similar performance now that Funcom has released a handful of patches and hotfixes for the game.

I do have issues where, when powering on my computer, it will have one of my 2 monitors (usually the primary one) just flashing red, green, and blue in order on the screen until I restart it. Sometimes the screen comes up completely distorted. But my other monitor is fine and I just restart the computer and it's fine. If you have any ideas for that, I'd love to hear them. It happens maybe 1 in 10 start ups and only really inconveniences me for like 30s but it'd be nice to know why it's doing that. It seems to happen more right after driver updates.

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LoreSoong

in reply to hobowillie • 4 settimane fa • •

The only thing i can think of that would cause youre monitor issue would be not having nvidia-drm enabled in the kernel params. The stutters and what not, might just be the games themselves and their compatibility with the version of proton you use. I highly recommend testing It with proton-ge if you havent before. In my experience ge(Glorious Eggroll) has the best compatibility with newer titles beyond that you can try the proton-experimental. Contrary to its name the experiemntal branch is fairly stable and fixes alot of games.

For info on getting a specific game running well or checking compatibility before you buy protondb.com is great! users upload their steam launch options for the specific game to enhance or stabilize their experience.

If youre using grub and you dont like using the the terminal or file explorer there is a gui software called grub-customizer that I use to quickly theme and edit kernel params
Note:(Its not exactly smart to use software like this because it essentially has the full control of the pc. Even if its not malicious its still not recomended because it can break things but with proper back ups etc I think its worth it)

Best of luck man! feel free to reach out again for any thing else or more indepth help.

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copygirl

in reply to hobowillie • 1 mese fa • •

Discord also works poorer in Linux

Certainly not Linux' fault if developers write shitty Electron apps and then put a bunch of OS-specific stuff in it.

Also, try Vesktop? I like that I can customize my experience a little more with the plugins.

Snap

All my homies hate Snap.

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hobowillie

in reply to copygirl • 4 settimane fa • •

I didn't say it was any fault of Linux that Discord doesn't work as well. Just that it's a fact that it doesn't work as well, regardless of the reason. It has issues in Windows, too.

I'd never heard of Vesktop. I read up on it a bit and I might swap over to it today if I have some time to work on it.

I was trying out different installation types and Discord was my only foray into Snap. Probably not using it again. haha

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jmankman

in reply to hobowillie • 1 mese fa • •

Discord being worse on Linux is entirely Discord's fault, there has been a thread on their forums for literal years asking for proper support. Just use Vesktop, use it on Windows and Linux, it's a direct upgrade.

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hobowillie

in reply to jmankman • 4 settimane fa • •

I'll check out Vesktop. Will it stream my games/desktop (I use this sporadically depending on with group of friends I'm gaming with) just fine to people using Discord? Can I still use it for quests (very rarely do I do this but the occasional game pops up on there)?

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9488fcea02a9

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

Lazy reporting...

Then why post here and get clicks for their shitty youtube channel?

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copygirl

in reply to 9488fcea02a9 • 1 mese fa • •

Haven't watched the video, but I think just the conversation this created ended up being interesting to me. A handful of extra views won't do any harm.

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Ulrich

in reply to 9488fcea02a9 • 1 mese fa • •

Because it's important to know what's being told to his very large audience. If you don't want to watch it, I provided a tl;dw in the OP.

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Redredme

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

What I think:

If i install Windows, latest drivers and steam I am set. No need to know what i am doing, no need to consult an expert. Just: Next, next finish, yes yes, sure, here is the soul of my first born, next yes, sure. Fuck off with that edge update. Yes next end.

The moment bootloaders etc can break, whatever the cause, is the moment you lose 60% of your users.

The moment you need to consult an expert to game you lose another 20%.

That's what he's doing. He is not catering or talking to you, the experienced Linux user, he's talking to your nephew who just finished building his first game pc. He's saying: You little guy... don't bother just yet. Get acquainted with everything and then try this.

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Droechai

in reply to Redredme • 1 mese fa • •

Last time I helped my mother with her laptop Windows had ruined her updater and it took me ages to sort out. Win11 is not a user friendly OS out of the box, with horrible experience searching for fixes. On the other hand Linux has a ton of friendly people ready to help or who posts guides (with datestamps!)

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Nemoder

in reply to Redredme • 1 mese fa • •

But what are the odds of having these issues? It's a bit disingenuous to tell a large audience that this is what they can expect if the reality is the problems may only effect one in a thousand.

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msmc101

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

reminds of the linus incident. non linux youtubers need to stop making sweeping claims about linux after they fuck it up

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geneva_convenience

in reply to msmc101 • 1 mese fa • •

The Linus incident of Linus showing how bad the Linux experience can be?

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LoreSoong

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

I find it very interesting that as a windows user, for years learning the OS was this collaborative effort for me and the community at large. Wed google everything, find obscure forums with equally obscure sollutions, and then eventually youtube tutorials. It was always a community educatiing themselves further in infinite directions.

Why does it seem like people dont want this with linux? I get that it might be too slow for some people and they just need something to "work". I see so many people on various comment sections saying "yeah i tried it had issues and switched back" basically the same experience that the video portrayed. Why was that same person able to suffer through windows for 25+years but this is just "too much".

I personally feel that most of the linux community has been a breath of fresh air. I feel stupid sure, but at the same time its rewarding to communicate with others and find a solution.

Even some people within the linux community feel this way, telling users to simply read the man page or the official forums to find solutions rather than teach them to use the man pages and arch wiki for example. Its honestly baffling to me on both ends.

Open question to all: what is your level of profiency? How do you learn about linux? Do you think there is a problem or is it a loud minority of users?

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lightnsfw

in reply to LoreSoong • 1 mese fa • •

For me the problem is with Linux I typically have to go a lot "deeper" to solve issues I have and those issues come up more often. Yes there is documentation available but it isn't always use friendly and I tend to have to spend more time deciphering it than I would for a Windows issue where I can usually find the exact steps I need to take with a quick search (or often just poking around in menus).

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LoreSoong

in reply to lightnsfw • 1 mese fa • •

I see what you are saying, but thats where the collaborative effort comes in. The only reason you are able to get to a solution so efficeintly with windows is because the base level users of windows are more educated in their OS. There is 25+ years of effort from millions of base level or above users. The fact that windows hasnt changed very much since 98 helps alot too, The solutions from all those years ago generally still apply.

Edit: also those solutions are noticed by microsoft and often get implemented directly into the OS.

All that is to say we need YOU, and users like you, to recreate the educational enviorments that seem so second nature to us with windows.

Its a very positive feedback loop we make a forum post "hey I have this issue" and either someone would allready have a solution or youd figure it out with help from the community and update the post with your workaround or fix, etc. This still exists obviously but I feel like we dont appreciate enough how many years of this had to happen before we got to the point we are now with windows.

I can understand not feeling like you have the free time for all of this effort. but to me the only reason we feel that way is because we still have windows as a fallback that works. Where as we didnt see linux or mac os as a viable alternative back then.

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nickwitha_k (he/him)

in reply to LoreSoong • 1 mese fa • •

Open question to all: what is your level of profiency?

I'd say that I'm pretty proficient. I haven't done LFS yet but haven't really spent more than a few mins with windows except for a handful of times for about 15 years. The one time that I did so recently was to try to get a PSVR2 to work. That experience was so awful (driver disks for OS install, ADS FUCKING EVERYWHERE THAT CANNOT BE DISABLED, etc) that I quickly gave up and ended up killing the VM. I'd dinner become a hermit in a cave than abide by OS-level ads that can only be partially disabled by mucking around in the registry.

Sorry. A bit off-topic. I just really hate ads. Erm... I've done some basic tutorials on writing drivers for the kernel and have been working on reverse engineering a driver for some AR glasses, though I've not made it too far.

How do you learn about linux?

My initial learning was because I lost my XP serial in college and decided to give Linux a try. From there, a lot of my learning has been through work, which I got due to my teaching myself how to use Linux.

Do you think there is a problem or is it a loud minority of users?

It's both. I'd say that it really is going to vary based upon the sub-community. Unfortunately, there's a lot of toxicity in the gaming community at large, which, in my experience, is reflected in segments of Linux gaming communities. On the other hand, I just last night saw a bunch of people on Lemmy trying to help someone figure out how to get their new GPU to work, which was very much the opposite of toxic.

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LoreSoong

in reply to nickwitha_k (he/him) • 1 mese fa • •

im with you man, FUCK ads, it was a major motivator moving from windows, as well as DRM and system level 0 anti-cheat.

you answered my second question but not in the way I intended, I meant to ask for more of a methodology like, do you just read the man pages? do you refer to AI? are you just full trial and error? does your work provide resources? Im asking because I generally want to see why its such an issue for people to find info, personally I use a mix of selfhosted AI and various forums and wikis. I wouldn't be supprised if some users are learning 100% through chatgpt or a single youtube channel.

Im experiencing much the same with the community it seems to be a 60-40 whether im going to find actual help or have someone just tell me to RTFM and the people who do care are absolutely kind and absurdly helpful. Your observation about the gaming focused linux community being slightly more on the toxic side is probably an apt assessment. and probably skews the initial proportion of 60-40 to the more to the toxic side where as it would otherwise be something like 80-20 helpful and toxic respectively.

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geneva_convenience

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

Linux should work out of the box. Besides installing drivers no effort should be required. Especially with stuff like Bazzite which has all gaming stuff preinstalled.

This is a great and much needed video to show an actual user experience.

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MXX53

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

All I know is I finally migrated my gaming desktop to Linux 3 years ago as my last hold out system and the only windows machine I’ve had since 2009. I haven’t noticed anything in terms of reduction in performance. Not to mention the ease of use when compared to getting Debian running on my laptop in 2009.

But more importantly to me, when I click shutdown, my machine shuts down within 5 seconds. When I start up I’m not spammed a million times over with ads and bullshit. And when I update and reboot, my updates are done, no more update, reboot, update some more, reboot, etc.

Let’s say Linux performance is worse than windows (has not been my experience), I would take that and not have all the other bullshit.

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Auth

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

Its fine reporting IMO. We had so many switching to linux Ws this year it was about time someone had a subpar experience.

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pineapple

in reply to Ulrich • 1 mese fa • •

I agree, if anyone did some surface level research they would quickly find out they should buy a second ssd if they want to dual boot Linux.

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Ulu-Mulu-no-die

in reply to pineapple • 1 mese fa • •

they should buy a second ssd if they want to dual boot Linux

It's actually not necessary, I've been dual-booting on the same system drive for years without any issues at all.

The only thing that's strictly necessary in that case is knowing darn well what you're doing.

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Ulrich

in reply to pineapple • 1 mese fa • •

I don't necessarily expect them to research everything, I just expect them to figure out what happened before reporting it to the public.

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Pebble Time 2 Design Reveal

🔥

Pebble Time 2* Design Reveal

It's real and it's magnificent

^ericmigi.com

#technology

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FireWire400

in reply to Avid Amoeba • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I'm actually glad I ordered the 2 Duo, not at all fond of this new design.

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Death_Equity

in reply to FireWire400 • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

There is a round version, but it isn't in production.

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FireWire400

in reply to Death_Equity • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I actually like the rectangular design they had before

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Sagan_Wept

in reply to FireWire400 • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I think it looks sexy, but to each their own. I still don't think I'll upgrade till pebble 3

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AliasVortex

in reply to Avid Amoeba • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

The blue/ silver is very striking, I'm excited!

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Are these two rar files malware? (virustotal results)

Does anyone know if these two files are considered malware?
I see a lot of things in the behavior tab that seem suspicious (but then again, I have no idea, and am relatively new/dumb).

Here are the images of the virustotal results I am referring to:

Also, I did see there was an noticeable slowness to my pc after I extracted the rar files (I was in a VM).

Thank you.

#piracy

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frongt

in reply to Yourname942 • 1 mese fa • •

Unlikely for the rar file itself. The exe seems a little suspicious, so I would scan that file individually. Hard to say without unpacking and examining it.

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Yourname942

in reply to frongt • 1 mese fa • •

Should I have scanned the extracted folders rather than the rar file itself? (even though it shows network communications and mitre signatures?)

I ran an antivirus outside the VM and nothing was detected luckily. (I had already extracted the rar files, but just scanned the rar itself)

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MangoPenguin

in reply to Yourname942 • 1 mese fa • •

No it's fine, clearly it did extract the rar file and run everything.

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frongt

in reply to Yourname942 • 1 mese fa • •

Yes, scan the potential malware directly (exe, dll files). Not all scanners support extracting archives.

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Treasure

in reply to Yourname942 • 1 mese fa • •

TLDR: I can't say for 100% sure, but there are multiple reasons to believe that this is malware.

Long version: I'm seeing multiple suspicious things here.

The IPs being connected to are part of some hoster and have some abuse reports: abuseipdb.com/check-block/217.…
The domain being resolved is qcloud[.]com, which belongs to Tencent Cloud and definitely not Microsoft.
Other domains in memory like counter-strike[.]com[.]ua are very new and definitely sound fishy.
A standalone version of 7zip is being run and extracts the created rar file with the password "infected". Real alarm bells here.
A lot of the registry actions look like anti-debugging, which does not sound like something an Illustrator Plugin would do.

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MangoPenguin

in reply to Yourname942 • 1 mese fa • •

There are some suspicious things going on like the qcloud and counter-strike domains, as well as the 7zip extract being run.

I would probably get rid of it.

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Yourname942

in reply to MangoPenguin • 1 mese fa • •

I installed 7zip if that made it appear (not sure if it is the case though) Yeah I may have to just pay for subscriptions with money I can't afford :S

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MangoPenguin

in reply to Yourname942 • 1 mese fa • •

I suppose you can probably do most things without the plugins too, just more time intensive

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CrackedLinuxISO

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Malware or not, remember to update WinRAR

arstechnica.com/security/2025/…

High-severity WinRAR 0-day exploited for weeks by 2 groups

Exploits allow for persistent backdooring when targets open booby-trapped archive.

^{Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)}

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OneXPlayer Super X: New AMD Strix Halo gaming handheld teased with convertible design

The OneXPlayer Super X has been officially teased. Sticking with a similar design to the other X-series devices, it's a convertible gaming handheld but with the AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395, which brings the powerful Radeon 8060S iGPU.

^{Abid Ahsan Shanto (Notebookcheck)}

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Are distros really different or is it more about preference?

I've been working and testing to switch my main PC (used for work like audio recording, music, and general multimedia) and have been playing with Ubuntu Studio on my laptop. Loving it so far but I keep seeing people talk about CachyOS, Bazzite, or the new Debian Trixie.

I'm having trouble finding what's really different about all these distros aside from how they look or slight changes in how they do things (I know Ubuntu Studio has a low latency kernel which seems important for what I need to do). Is there a big difference? Like, if I go with Ubuntu Studio am I gonna end up wiping everything and installing CachyOS or Bazzite or something in a month because it's better? Or are all these distros basically the same thing with a different look and feel and as long as I choose one that gets regular updates, it doesn't matter fundamentally?

I'm trying to grasp the Linux concept but being a Windows user my whole life I'm struggling to 'get it'. Instead of trying to understand in the contex of Windows or Mac, is a better comparison Apple/Android? Like iPhones would be similar to both Mac and Windows (you don't get to choose much) and Android would be Linux (I know it's built on it haha) and it's really just a bunch of different options to do the same thing?

#linux

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Kongar

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

I’ve said it here before and I’ll continue to say it. All the Linux nerds (myself included) have strong opinions when it comes to distros or x vs Wayland, or flatpak vs repositories, blah blah blah.

But in the end - none of it matters. You could randomly eliminate all options except for one distro - and we’d happily pick that over windows. The trick is that you could make any distro like any other - it’s just that the distro did all the work for you. So pick the one that matches how you want to use your pc.

Maybe the only thing that’s not changeable is the philosophy behind the distro. Debian - older stuff for stability. Arch - bleeding edge rolling release. Fedora somewhere in the middle. You get the idea.

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tyler

in reply to Kongar • 1 mese fa • •

For me it mattered. The majority of distros I tested have had audio or graphical issues (or both). Only bazzite and cachyos have worked straight out of the box.

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relaymoth

in reply to tyler • 1 mese fa • •

For me, Bluefin as been the only flawless distro.

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tyler

in reply to relaymoth • 4 settimane fa • •

Yeah and that’s the problem. It does matter which distro and as a result the experience for a noob is horrendous.

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edel

in reply to Kongar • 1 mese fa • •

"Debian - older stuff for stability. Arch - bleeding edge rolling release. Fedora somewhere in the middle." Very true. I would add that then there are a bunch of others that fill the gaps in between. For instance, Ubuntu makes Debian easier and Mint makes Ubuntu more open and TuxedoOS makes Debian/Ubuntu far more up-to-date. Then, CachyOS makes Arch more easy and gamable while Manjaro tries to make Arch more stable. Fedora is a perfect blend but those those that have a beef against Redhat/IBM (USA), OpenSUSE is a perfect blend too of the philosophies of Debian and Arch.

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seralth

in reply to edel • 1 mese fa • •

Arch is also just becoming the standard gaming option.

A lot of gaming communities that are migrating over are flowing to the aur for their community tools.

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mnemonicmonkeys

in reply to seralth • 1 mese fa • •

A lot of gaming communities that are migrating over are flowing to the aur for their community tools.

Wasn't there malware found in the AUR just last week?

For Linux newbs, AUR is the Arch User Repository where anyone can post packages and scripts. It's highly recommended to NOT trust anything on there due to the risk of malware. If you don't use Arch and stick to your distro's application manager you don't have to worry about it

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sic_semper_tyrannis

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I think Fedora KDE is very refined but I stick to Ubuntu bases as there are some little known programs that I use that only have .deb packages unfortunately

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LeFantome

in reply to sic_semper_tyrannis • 1 mese fa • •

Have you heard of Distrobox?

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sic_semper_tyrannis

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I've heard the name but don't know what it is. Some program to run other distros packages?

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tyler

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Replying cause I want to know too

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sic_semper_tyrannis

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It appears to be a way of running containers in the terminal with the specific intent to have a certain distro image installed, run a program, and give it permission to interact with your system's home directory with an easy to launch icon.
It looks pretty darn handy, I'm going to give it a try this weekend

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiDt4O6UPRw

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MyNameIsRichard

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Some are very different to each other, Arch and Debian where the former is at the bleeding edge of software and the later is the most conservative distro out there. Some are very similar, Ubuntu and Kubuntu where they are the same distro with a different desktop environment and default software.

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Mark

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Distros within the same "family" (e.g. Debian, Ubuntu, Mint) are mostly the same with only small differences between them, while the different families have wildly different approaches to various things.

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floo

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It has been my experience that there is no “best distro“. It’s just a matter of which distro is best for you. there are distros geared for beginners, distros geared for media professionals, distros aimed at software developers,… And it all takes the experience of trying it out to see what works best for you in particular.

While all distro’s have the same underlying components, so to speak, different distro’s, are typically developed with different use cases in mind.

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exu

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The main difference has traditionally been the package manager and update schedule, though a distro might offer several options for the second one.

Relatively recently we got another differentiating feature with immutable distros, where updates don't happen with a package manager but often by downloading or building a complete new image with the newer versions.

Other than that distros mainly set the defaults for you, but you can always change that to work or look like another distro with enough effort.

Basically, don't worry about it and use what works for you

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just_another_person

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Ignore anyone claiming there is some massive performance difference between any distros. That's some misinformed bullshit.

The main things you need to understand are the layers:

1) Kernel
2) Libraries
3) Package Manager
4) UserSpace

The Kernel layer will be largely transparent for you as a beginner. If you want bleeding edge stuff, install a "Rolling Release" distro that updates this layer much more frequently than "LTS (long term support)" releases will, as their function is to remain stable for longer periods of time.

Libraries will also be transparent to you as a new user, and even as experts, we rarely need to mess with this layer unless building something specific, which you will not need to worry about. Do not let the Chaff start talking some bullshit about how you to prefer this or that in distros blah blah ...you're a new user. Ignore that noise.

Package Manager: something to consider as you will be interacting with this. RPM, Apt/Deb and pacman are the big three, and all are very mature and stable. They all perform similar basic functions, just in different ways. You'll have a preference in time, but any of them work well. It's not a huge thing you need to worry about, but you'll surely like one over another in time.

UserSpace: where all the fun stuff is. Stick with a distro that has a large community. The biggest choice in how you will interact with your machine as a desktop user is here in that you want to choose a Desktop Environment, or DE. Gnome and KDE are the big two in this arena, but there are many: Xfce, Cinnamon, Mate...etc. Id suggest starting with Gnome if you like a clean MacOS type interface, or KDE if you really like the more verbose sort of Windows experience. Both are fine choices, and you won't have problems with either. Again, ignore everyone telling you one is better than the other...they are not. It's a preference. Try them both, and go with one. You can easily swap later if you want, no big deal.

Lastly: don't go off and use Bl00pyGameRzX or whatever random distro the loudest asshole in a thread is telling you to use. Again, you're a new user, you need simple, stable, and a huge community to reference if you have issues.

I suggest Fedora for new users now after Ubuntu shat the bed and soiled their crown. After getting comfortable with things, maybe look into what the difference is between Fedora and Cachy, and if that's of any use to you. If not, whatever, just keep using what you like. Distro hopping is for aimless people who don't know what they're looking for, or how to identify. Use what YOU like, and keep using it as long as you like it. Ignore the hype machine telling you otherwise. That's the point.

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Mordikan

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One correction to this:

The Arch package manager is Pacman, not AUR. AUR is the Arch User Repository and is definitely not stable 😀

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just_another_person

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Whoops, was in a flow. Good catch.

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caseyweederman

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...kinda wanna try Bl00pyGameRzX now

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NewNewAugustEast

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa • •

Ubuntu has always been that bad though. Always.

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just_another_person

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Not at all. It was fine for new users. It was the mostly popular distribution for years for a reason.

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NewNewAugustEast

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa • •

Because people recommended it.

There were better options. It crashed or broke all the time. Still does.

It would never be a recommendation for new users from me. I tried every version since 4, so I am not new to its shittyness.

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just_another_person

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Ran thousands of servers on it for years without a hiccup. No idea what you were doing wrong there, but that's not my experience.

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NewNewAugustEast

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa • •

I suppose I should have clarified: Ubuntu desktop. I don't really have a problem with Ubuntu server, although why bother when you can just use Debian. Did you choose it for the newer packages?

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just_another_person

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Ubuntu has specific toolchain stacks that make imaging and packaging easier when you're running continuously deployed stacks that change frequently.

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seralth

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa • •

General rule of thumb for new users.

Doesn't like to tinker and non gamer. Fedora

Likes to thinker and non gamer endeavour

Doesn't like to tinker and gamer bazzite

Likes to tinker and gamer cachy

Arch at this point is no more unstable or prone to breaking then mint or any other distro barring like Debian. Cachy and endeavour with kde6 basically have solved the arch isn't for new users problem coming from Windows.

So really you just need to ask yourself. Do you want your defaults to include gaming utilities or do you want to have to install them yourself. If your going to game you can save yourself hours as a new user with bazzite or cachy since they come out of the box with a button for "I want to install all the gaming stuff" and your good to go.

If you don't game and just do basic work then you can go with fedora which will provide a great curated experience that basically just leaves you with a standard and reliable work PC.

Or endeavour which will drop you off right at the point of everything works, is reliable and ready for you to start learning. Even if you choose to never fiddle with anything, you still end up with a system that supports the widest possible amount of hardware and has one of the best user manuals of any distro family.

Seriously for as much as people claim you need a big community for refence material. Between cachy and arches wiki, you have a better source of information than any other option. It's absurd how useful it is.

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just_another_person

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Y'all really need to get off the Bazzite thing for new users.

Fedora for gaming is great and has zero issues.

Bazzite is no better than any other distro in this respect EXCEPT that it's immutable, and going to be a NIGHTMARE for somebody not yet familiar with how things work in a Linux system. It's edge cases upon edge cases, and the assumption by people pushing this idiocy is that they'll never need to know how a normal functioning Linux system works if they like it, which is an ignorant supposition.

Stop pushing this narrative to new users, you're just making it harder on them.

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JeremyHuntQW12

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You mean opaque.

And you will definitely find out about libraries if you attempt to install anything.

Some packages will install in your home directory, others, for no apparent reason will spread themselves around the system in the area only available in administration mode. Good luck finding where it all went. The only way I can find is to look at the path in Synaptic, most package managers won't record it.

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just_another_person

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This...I don't understand what this is.

No distro managed by a package manager would be dropping files all over the place as you're suggesting, not would it require you to interact with or even know which libraries you have installed because it's all automatically handled by said package manager.

If you're installing out of band packages, you're talking about a different thing, and that's the package maintainer's fault, not the distro and their maintainers.

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mnemonicmonkeys

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Great comment. Makes me wish that Lemmy allowed comments to be pinned

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bubbalouie

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

Grass is greener...Linux is a kernel with tools attached that distributions play with and present as they would as a distribution. Packaging (program management) is different throughout with all the distros loving their 'tool', or, methodology. Some distros present helpful scripts to get a thing done, or, look a way, or, whatever, and some do not.

Windows tells you, here, you can use this or do this and cannot do this or use that. Linux tells you to simply have at it and makes it all available for you to use or not to use. Windows sits you at the kiddie table whereas Linux gives you materials and tools.

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Ŝan

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Þe biggest difference is going to be in þe package manager. And even þen, it can be furþer generalized into rolling vs point releases. Software tends to be þe same, once installed.

Notable differences from þe common selection:

Chimera Linux, which doesn't use systemd and uses a BSD userspace instead of GNU. Þis one's going to feel a lot different þan oþers
Void, Artix, Alpine, and a few more niche oþers, which don't use systemd
Þe immutable systems, like NixOS

Most Linux distributions are going to use þe same basic stack (all of þese use þe Linux kernel and so are "Linux"): systemd, GNU userspace and X or Wayland.

Distributions have some package manager, some default set-up, and selection of themes and desktop backgrounds þat give þem þeir flavor; but beyond þe package manager, init system (and in þe case of systemd, a whole bunch of oþer subsystems), and userspace, it's all superficial and common across distributions and can be swapped or installed on most distributions - often wiþout even a reboot. Þe userspace and init are not impossible to swap out for someþing else, but are generally quite hard (and harder for systemd) to replace, as is þe package manager.

Þe main decision, þen IMHO for new users is to decide wheþer þey want a rolling or point release (or an immutable distribution), and almost always for new users þe answer is "point release" since maintenance is usually lower, giving folks time to get used to Linux before facing þem wiþ some breaking software upgrade. NixOS has a notoriously comparatively high learning curve, as does GUIX; oþer immutable distros maybe not so, but none have yet achieved notoriety, and þe smaller þe community, þe less help you'll find online. Þis usually means some descendent of Redhat or Debian, like Mint, which is why even people who don't use Mint þemselves end up recommending it as a starter.

Chimera Linux

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Hemingways_Shotgun

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

In terms of how you interact with it day to day, no. And that's because the Distro in that sense matters less than the desktop environment. Since DEs are fundamentally distro agnostic, most distros give a person the option for multiple choices in that regard, so it doesn't really matter if you're using Ubuntu, Arch, Fedora, etc.... what matters from a usage perspective is if you're using KDE, or Gnome, or XFCE, etc...

Under the hood there's a lot of differences in how each one chooses to do things, but I wouldn't call one of them better or worse than any other and for the most part can be ignored.

My advice would be narrow it down to one choice; and that's your package manager. That's really where most of the difference lies. Find the one that you find easiest to use (Apt, Pacman/Pamac, DNF, Zypper) and that's where you land until you're comfortable.

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cRazi_man

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Noob opinion: they're all the same, you're just choosing from the minor differences in the quirks one has over another and it would be easy enough to work around those if you were motivated to.

The real difference is the DE, how quickly updates are pushed, good GUI on a package manager and if it is immutable or not.

For noobs like me it also helps if it has a lot of users so I can find forum posts about my specific problem. Vetrans keep saying that online documentation is enough, but I wouldn't even know where to start with applying generic instructions to my installation (e.g. how is a wiki going to be able to tell me that my low framerates in Street Fighter 6 are because of split lock protections on my CPU). How would I diagnose the problem to know where to look? This is the major appeal of Debian based systems.

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pogodem0n

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A Linux distribution is just the Linux kernel distributed with various other pieces of software that make it usable. Often times, there are multiple software projects that aim achieve the same goal by going in different paths. These are packaged together by the distro maintainers who mostly do this out of passion.

Different distros prioritize different aspects of the software they package and they do this in different ways. To make the best choice for you, it is best to try and understand what each distro aims to do. Here are a few examples out my head:
- Debian is a traditional distribution that aims to keep the system stable for a few years. They do backport security patches, but slow rollout of feature updates is a deal-breaker for some people (like me).
- CachyOS (based on Arch Linux) compiles it's packages utilizing newest CPU instructions which may lead to slight performance gain on newer hardware. They also ship some kernel patches optimizing it for gaming use cases.
- Bazzite is based on an atomic/immutable version of Fedora. The aim here is to provide a system that makes it very hard for users to mess it up, using containerization technologies. It also means that installing packages in the traditional way is not very feasible or recommended. You are supposed to install packages without root access and using technologies like flatpak. It also includes some gaming specific kernel patches similar to CachyOS, but not as many.

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NewNewAugustEast

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Ubuntu is broken, or will be broken. It has been that way since the beginning.

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Jack_Burton

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Really? I thought Ubuntu was one of the main distros?

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NewNewAugustEast

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Sure, but it is just Debian with their crap bolted on.

The last two times I installed Ubuntu somewhat recently, it was broken at the install. I fixed it, but it shouldn't be that way. The hardware was nothing exotic or interesting either.

It has always been troublesome.

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HakunaHafada

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

If you haven't noticed yet, the Linux community gets pretty divisive about distros. For what it's worth, my friend swears by Ubuntu. Personally, I use Linux Mint, which is based on Ubuntu, and my issues are pretty infrequent or troublesome.

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Admetus

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Ultimately my choice of distro came down to what packages are available under the package managers.

I found a couple of packages only under the AUR so I go Arch.

But what I want from Linux, and what makes it Linux to me is the DE. So I could use Fedora Gnome or EndeavourOS gnome and just go with whichever is best for my use case.

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brucethemoose

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

As you see, there are 1000 different opinions, heh.

My take is it’s about user patterns.

Every distro has different maintenance expectations, different tolerance for bugs and keeping stuff up to date and working. That’s the flavor difference: it’s all the same packages just served to you a different way.

As an example, Arch Linux has an expectation for the user to pay attention to maintenance. Read their excellent wiki. Update frequently, and pay attention to errors and warnings when you do. There is one version of Python, so update your stuff to work with out. The “reward” for being so hands on is stuff getting automatically fixed quickly.

CachyOS is just a preconfigured version of this, with presets and experimental features tailored for gaming. But it’s largely not divergent from the underlying Arch system: you could switch from an arch install to CachyOS packages with zero fuss.

Contrast with Ubuntu. It is meant to be more “hands off” with staged and delayed updates. There are many versions of Python present in the same system, so old stuff works without changes. But the consequence is you may have to live with certain problems you run into, or risk breaking your system trying to fix them.

Fedora is somewhere in between, with the addition of an emphasis on free software. And a consequence of that is, for instance, no first party support for Nvidia. Bazzite builds on top of that by expensively modifying it into a stable platform for gaming, but you’re also dependent on a relatively small group of maintainers.

So I guess one question is how involved with your computer do you want to be?

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chromodynamic

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The main differences are:

package management (how you install new programs)
release model (fixed vs rolling)
default desktop environments (the GUI / look and feel)

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frongt

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Yup. Until you get into stuff like immutable distros, because that's a whole different animal.

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Semperverus

in reply to chromodynamic • 1 mese fa • •

Workflows are different, configuration files can be different, and package names (not just management) can be different.

Additionally, release cadence (how fast you get new stuff, even when considering fixed releases), stability, performance (how were the packages compiled), and custom patches that aren't part of the original code (*shakes fist angrily at Manjaro*)

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seralth

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If you don't like Manjaro for that then your going to hate steamOS. Lol

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Semperverus

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I don't like how the manjaro team does it specifically. A lot of the time i've seen packages break in Manjaro that work fine in Arch, then Manjaro users come into Arch forums acting like its an Arch problem when it isn't.

Also, their driver install helper causes more problems than it solves, which was especially highlighted in the transition to open source official nvidia drivers. Couldn't install the open source ones for the longest time, and couldn't install the right ones from the repo with pacman directly. Caused some major issues for a friend I was helping.

Helped him switch to proper Arch and all the issues went away.

Valve on the other hand puts extreme effort into maintaining stability. I use it regularly and have zero issues, though I use it as-is out of the box.

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LeFantome

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Agreed.

Though if you get off the beaten path, you get things like system supervisor, system compiler, C library, and core utils.

But most Linux distros are systemd, GCC, Glibc, and GNU utils. Which brings us back to your list.

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pyssla

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I wanted to write a long-ass comment until I remembered the existence of the following excellent guide: lemmy.ml/post/18268622 . Please give it a read 😉.

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pineapple

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That guide is so awesome! Thanks for showing me.

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Dessalines

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I've stickied that to this community.

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Xatolos

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It's the difference between Windows 11, Windows 11 Pro, Windows 11 for Enterprise, and Windows Server 2025.

There are differences, but not dramatic differences. Some are just better tuned to certain users than others.

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pineapple

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I don’t think there is really too much difference either. Mainly the package manager is the main difference I guess. There are a lot of other differences but if you don’t really care about it then it doesn’t really matter.

The desktop environment makes a much bigger difference than the distro.

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Ulu-Mulu-no-die

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First thing to consider is they all use the same Desktop Environments.

Unlike Windows, in Linux the "graphic" is completely separated from the operating system, any DE can be uses on any distro, so trying different distros that come with the same DE, might make you think there's very little difference (at first look).

Second, almost all distros are derivatives, that contributes to make them feel similar. The original ones are just a bunch: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, SuSe, Arch, Gentoo, everything else is based either on one of those or on another derivative, if your curious you can have a look at this graph: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Lin…
So for example, if you take Ubuntu and Mint, they might look similar because Mint is based on Ubuntu.

If you want to see the real differences, you need to look at the original ones, the core differences are: the way software is packaged and managed, and the "philosophy" behind the way the system is overall administered, maintained and released.

Derivatives add differences to the user experience, they main reason they're created is someone is not completely happy with the way a distro does things and they create one the meets their needs, for example, Debian is improved dramatically on the user experience lately, but many years ago was quite arduous to setup and use for non-experts, so Ubuntu was born.

Now to answer you question

as long as I choose one that gets regular updates, it doesn’t matter fundamentally?

It does matter, tho it's not as much world-changing as some people seem to think (especially when it comes to gaming).

The most important things are support for your hardware and easy of administration/use. Most distros will recognize and setup your hardware out of the box, but some might require tinkering or extra steps. Some distros automate almost everything so the user doesn't need to think about it, others require more knowledge and more manual intervention, you have a much finer control of your system this way at the expense of some user friendliness, it's up to you to decide what you prefer.

Then it comes the Desktop Environment, different DEs do things differently, which one to choose is totally personal preference.

As for software, unless you go after some niche obscure distro, you shouldn't have problems finding it in the distro repositories. For edge cases you can always use Flatpaks or AppImages.

File:Linux Distribution Timeline.svg - Wikipedia

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teawrecks

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The better comparison is that distros are the operating systems (like "windows", "macos", and "android"), while "linux" is the kernel under the hood that end users likely never interact with (like "NT", "XNU", and..."linux").

A distro represents an intended user experience. If you want a distro that has an intended user experience that is similar to windows, go with Mint or OpenSUSE. If your desired experience is like the SteamDeck, install bazzite (with an AMD GPU ideally). If that's all you care to know, then that's all you need to know; go use your new system how you would any other.

But if you want to dig deeper, yeah, the fact that all the distros are based on linux (and more importantly, are posix compatible) means that a lot of the software is portable across distros. But that doesn't mean your experience on all distros will be the same. Different distros organize their filesystems differently, they might ship with different versions of core utilities based on the stability testing they've done, and they likely offer varying means of installing and managing new packages.

The tl;dr is, go use one distro, and then later try doing the same stuff in a different distro, and inevitably at some point you'll go "oh, this didn't work exactly how I expected because the other distro I'm used to handles this differently". That's the difference.

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Lettuce eat lettuce

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You're on the right track. Linux technically refers to the kernel, the low-level core of the operating system that everything else interacts with and is built on top of. Distros are just collections of components that have been standardized by some group or company.

Linux Mint is heavily customized Ubuntu with a different DE and all of Connonical's stuff removed. Nobara is a gaming-focused distro built on Fedora with a bunch of kernel modifications and pre-installed software to help games run better. CatchyOS is just Arch but with a really friendly installer that allows less advanced users to still enjoy many of the heavy customizations and cutting-edge software of Arch, etc etc.

Think of it like an engine. You can use the same engine in a bunch of different vehicles. You can also make modifications to the engine itself, but it will still essentially be the same engine.

The #1 rule for new Linux users, especially ones who aren't interested in becoming power users or tinkering with their OS, is if you're happy with your distro, stick with it.

There's no objective "correct" distro. The best distro for you is the distro that works and you feel comfortable with.

Lots of new users become worried that they are missing out on some major improvement in their experience of Linux or feel like they picked the "wrong" distro because some random user dissed it. Don't pay attention to that, if your distro does everything you need it to do and you enjoy using it, there's no reason to go looking for something better.

Now of course, there's nothing wrong with checking out other distros, and if you are somebody who likes to tinker with your setup and doesn't mind risking breaking things sometimes, then by all means, distro hop away. Almost all distros have a "live boot" option, which allows you to test the OS off of a flash drive without having to install it on your computer. It's a great way to quickly get the look and feel for a new distro without having to commit.

And of course, there are tons of Linux YouTubers who do reviews of distros, so you can watch those to also get an idea of the different options out there.

Because of the nature of FOSS and the linux ecosystem, you can make most distros look and feel just like any other, so that's always an option too.

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Jack_Burton

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This helps a lot, thank you. I've been feeling overwhelmed about making sure I pick the best distro and there's a lot of info bombardment. Additionally, I love this stuff so I know in a couple months there's a good chance I'll want to use another distro and I don't want to wipe everything again haha.

I use my PC for work, freelance audio production, voiceover, music, etc. I've been testing Ubuntu Studio on my laptop and it seems to be going ok so far (learning curve and lack of software aside) but I keep seeing people shoot down Ubuntu. Everyone seems to be talking about Bazzite and CachyOS but honestly I'm getting the impression they don't use Linux for much more than just gaming.

It all feels a little gate-keepy in ways and I got overwhelmed haha. Think I'll just keep chipping away with Ubuntu Studio and see if it'll do the trick for my main PC. Thanks again.

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Lettuce eat lettuce

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

I used Ubuntu Studio many years ago when I was going through an electronica phase lol. It worked fine for me.

Don't sweat it, there will always be the hot new distros on the block. Right now it's Bazzite, CatchyOS, and NixOS, back in the day there was Garuda, Arco Linux, Bunsen, MX Linux, and a ton of others. Some are still around, some are long gone. Doesn't mean they are bad distros, many of them are/were great, but don't choose a distro just because everybody is talking about it.

Plus, as you get more experience with Linux, the differences matter less and less. There are only a handful of package managers, and unless you have some very specific technical requirements, they all do the same thing and work the same way.

"apt install firefox" becomes "yum install firefox", or "pacman -S firefox" it's all pretty much the same under the hood.

And if you use KDE Plasma on different distros, the Discover store works the same across distros, same with any other GUI package installer.

If you keep getting better and get into home lab building or just have several different computers, you might end up using a bunch or distros at the same time on different machines.

Right now across all my physical computers and virtual machines in my home lab, I currently have 9 different distros installed on various machines. Different distros for different purposes.

My general #JustWorks laptops and VMs use Linux Mint, my hardcore gaming rig uses Nobara, my test junker laptops run Debian 13, Void Linux, and Arch for testing random software and messing around. For my Docker containers, I run Debian 12 as the base, for my Minecraft server, Ubuntu Server, my Steam Deck is SteamOS which is just Valve's heavily modified spin of Arch, and my main lab's Type-1 hypervisor is XCP-ng, which is basically Fedora under the hood.

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daggermoon

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

Just pick something with KDE Plasma and you'll be fine. Cachy, Debian, and Bazzite are all good.

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Green Wizard

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

IMO distros are just "how little work do I need to do before I get this to work the way I like?" You can make any distro work practically the same if you want it to.

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j_anthemion

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

IMO, coming from the systems administration side of Linux, the most significant difference was package management and availability.

RedHat and clones were very conservative and focused on services like web, database, etc. With IBM purchasing RHEL, many switched to Ubuntu. Ubuntu is also favored by devs because the packages were more up to date.

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biocoder.ronin

in reply to j_anthemion • 4 settimane fa • •

Hi, request for comment: how do you feel about GNU guix? Is this the future of package management we wanted?

I've used RedHat and Ubuntu and Arch primarily because of the package ecosystem, and security is definitely major concern for most sysadmins (I am not one).

Is guix going to be the future? Thanks

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JamBandFan1996

in reply to Jack_Burton • 1 mese fa • •

From a new users perspective, a lot of the main ones will probably feel very similar and the main difference you'd notice is stability and compatibility. Don't overwhelm yourself with choices, just choose a easy to use, high user base, well supported distro to start on (Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint) and if you don't like it move to something else later

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Jack_Burton

in reply to JamBandFan1996 • 1 mese fa • •

Appreciate it. I've decided to stick with Ubuntu Studio as long as I can duplicate my workflow before I make the switch. Think I got into my own head and indecision took over haha.

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JTskulk

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

These days the things that really differentiate distros are: installer, default desktop environment, packaging, packages.

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Squizzy

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

As someone completely new and stupid it feels like the desktop environment is the only difference I will ever notice. I was just about to move to bazzite and poke around until I realised the example and what I was picturing were just gnome.

At least I know im stupid.

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thedeadwalking4242

in reply to Squizzy • 4 settimane fa • •

There are some major differences starting to stir. I.E atomic distros Nixos and guix. But beyond that it’s all package manager differences. Some less popular OSs will have different init systems but that’s really about it

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Bronstein_Tardigrade

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

Been using Linux for 20+ years, and I've found it is the Desktop Environment that matters the most to me. It is the part with which I have daily contact. I have a PC running Debian, another running Fedora, a laptop with openSUSE, all with the same DE. My wife runs PCLOS with a different DE on her laptop, so I instantly revert to the CL rather than spend time searching for stuff.

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Jason

in reply to Bronstein_Tardigrade • 4 settimane fa • •

I'm in the same boat as OP. I just don't understand why one distro over another. I guess the next questions would be - what made you choose Debian for one PC and Fedora for the other? Do you find that openSUSE works better on a laptop than other distros? If the experience is the same, why not have them all the same distro? Do you just choose a distro on a whim? Roll a dice? Flip a coin?

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Bronstein_Tardigrade

in reply to Jason • 4 settimane fa • •

My Fedora PC was 8 years old so the wife bought me a new box for my birthday. I loaded Debian on a whim and now I'm too lazy to switch to Fedora. The laptop has always been my experimental machine where I try different distros. The wife first started her Linux journey with PCLOS/KDE and sees no reason to switch.

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Wren

in reply to Jack_Burton • 4 settimane fa • •

Really they all work the same as long as they're based on the same OS. I've done a lot of distro hopping and the only real difference I've seen is the desktop environment, package managers(sometimes), and pre-installed applications.

Even then, all of these can be changed. I would suggest picking a distro that best suits your needs by default and then add what you need from there.

I personally have been really happy with Linux Mint.

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EnteAuth (and a bunch of other FOSS) take Microsoft's "free" money

cross-posted from: lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/51040952

I'm moving away from using products by big tech and I recently started using EnteAuth for 2FA. Today I got an email from them saying that they received money as part of GitHub's secure open source fund. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but I do not like this at all. Microsoft is not altruistic I don't care what anyone says. There has to be an ulterior motive for this. With even the recent news that github won't be so independent anymore and they're getting folded into the Microsoft umbrella this has me worried. But let's be real github was never independent just look at copilot being forced down everyone's throat. That's why I personally stopped using it.

According to the fund

Throughout this program, each project receives $10,000 USD via GitHub Sponsors (which breaks down to $6,000 USD during the sprint and $2,000 USD at 6- and 12-month security check-ins). Projects are also invited to a new security focused community, and office hours with the GitHub Security Lab, that they can take advantage of during the full 12 months. They also receive security resources to immediately implement in their project and Azure credits for cloud infrastructure.

Those sponsors include

Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, American Express, Chainguard, Datadog, Herodevs, Kraken, Mayfield, Microsoft, Shopify, Stripe, Superbloom, Vercel, Zerodha, 1Password

Projects that are part of this even include nodejs, nvm, log4j, JUnit, and Matplotlib. Taking cybersecurity seriously is great but this just seems like a way to sucker them into their ecosystem to get them dependent on their products. Like I said maybe I'm being paranoid but I wouldn't be surprise when Microsoft suddenly buys these projects and we lose what made them so great.

Securing the supply chain at scale: Starting with 71 important open source projects - The GitHub Blog

Learn how the GitHub Secure Open Source Fund helped 71 open source projects significantly improve their security posture.

^{Kevin Crosby (The GitHub Blog)}

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just_another_person

in reply to kennedy • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

You may as well just stop using computers all together, bud 🤣

I don't mean to ruin your world view, but there are no ways to run anything you want to run by focusing on "altruistic companies", however you may subjectively define that.

Look, you're focusing on the wrong thing here. Maybe you didn't know this, but the massive majority of FOSS projects get funded by companies - either for consulting, feature bounties, IC development - and is a main driving force for the ecosystem.

Many in this ecosystem would even tell you that every single project is massively UNDERfunded by said companies, and they should kick in more to help keep these projects secure and in good standing. They make billions and billions of dollars off people's work, and it surely seems they should kick some of that back to the projects.

Whatever Microsoft's involvement is here, it's not going to be changing the direction of any of the projects mentioned. If for some reason something untoward starts happening with any project: boom, fork and new community. It's that simple.

In short, these people getting funding for their work is a good thing. If you take issue with who is providing that money, you're going to be digging a deep, deep hole in your research, and if you're running down the dep chain, you'll find out that all of the things you use have some funding by companies like Microsoft, Apple, Google, Facebook, IBM, Red Hat, Amazon, Alibaba, Halliburton, Qualcomm...I could keep going on and on.

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WhyJiffie

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

but there are no ways to run anything you want to run by focusing on "altruistic companies", however you may subjectively define that.

I think you misunderstood OP. their complaint is not that these projects should search an altruistic donor... but that Microsoft is suspicious in doing this, because arguably they rarely have good intentions.

Whatever Microsoft's involvement is here, it's not going to be changing the direction of any of the projects mentioned.

let's hope so

If for some reason something untoward starts happening with any project: boom, fork and new community. It's that simple.

easier said than done.

In short, these people getting funding for their work is a good thing.

I think OP (and me too) is worried about the terms. like, can these projects abandon github without repercussions? can they start using another code forge in parallel?

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just_another_person

in reply to WhyJiffie • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Uhhh, repercussions like what? They're getting small amounts of money for specific work. Up front. What repurcussions could there be for project moving to Gitlab, for instance?

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WhyJiffie

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Uhhh, repercussions like what?

sudden closure of donated azure services without prior notification and time to move off.

having to pay back some of the money.

the project planning with the promised donations as a given (they don't get all of it upfront, but as they get the most of it it's actually fair) and microsoft either using it as leverage or just carelessly terminating the contract to save money.

in extreme case banning the project from microsoft owned services, including github.

any of that in decreasing order of probability if implementation is different from expected (like not baking in specific security tools to the project) and the parties cannot agree on a solution.

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WhyJiffie

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Uhhh, repercussions like what?

sudden closure of donated azure services without prior notification and time to move off.

having to pay back some of the money.

in extreme case banning the project from microsoft owned services, including github.

any of that in decreasing order of probability if implementation is different from expected (like not baking in specific security tools to the project) and the parties cannot agree on a solution.

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just_another_person

in reply to WhyJiffie • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

They're payments for work services.

You listen to Joe Rogan, don't you...

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WhyJiffie

in reply to just_another_person • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

oh and I must also live in texas, right?

I wouldn't even recognize their voice or face.

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kennedy

in reply to WhyJiffie • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

yes exactly, my problem is not the money. I don't expect these project to always be free and I support those I can, sponsorship is good. These giant tech firms have used free projects all the time to make money without providing any support so its fine that they're supporting them. My problem is that I do not trust Microsoft at all.

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orclev

in reply to kennedy • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

In terms of the open source community Microsoft has been significantly less sketchy than usual for about a decade now. For those of us that are old enough to remember the halloween files it's hard to let go of that paranoia, particularly with the sketchy shit MS has been doing with their proprietary stuff lately, but near as I can tell they've been above board on their open source stuff.

I wouldn't go so far as to say blindly trust them at this point, but I wouldn't just assume with no evidence at all that there has to be something nefarious going on either.

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kennedy

in reply to orclev • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I've never heard of the Halloween files I just looked it up and that's just so crazy. I don't know what's going on behind closed doors in their c-suite but I wouldn't be surprised if this fund is a way to get their hands into open source projects. Like you said there's no explicit proof so it's best to be cautious.

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Cris

in reply to kennedy • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Whether it's good or bad is not determined by the fact that it's corporate money, but how that money impacts development, the devil's in the details, not just in a company donating lots of money.

Open source in general is very dependent on corporate sponsors. The linux kernel wouldn't exist had companies not invested in it.

I'm not knowledgeable enough to assess the potential pitfalls here, so I will be cautious but not paranoid, and continue to pay attention to discussions on how FOSS projects are run 🤷‍♂️

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Sunshine (she/her) via Buy European

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Germany: ING Bank to introduce Wero this month

Bezahldienst: Bezahlen in Echtzeit: ING führt Paypal-Konkurrent Wero ein

Frankfurt/Main - Der noch junge europäische Paypal-Konkurrent Wero bekommt weitere Unterstützung: Europas größte Direktbank ING will den Bezahldienst

^STERN.de

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"I support it only if it's open source" should be a more common viewpoint

What are your thoughts? Any counter-counter points to the author's response to most concerns regarding open source?

"I support it only if it's open source" should be a more common viewpoint

^{vitalik.eth.limo}

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Endymion_Mallorn

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I love the thought, but it the thinking behind it is very utopian. It doesn't match the real world. In my experience, if a company can't make all of the profit from a thing they invest in, they simply won't invest. I wish that wasn't the case, but it's what I've seen. The C-Suite and management would rather make 100% profit from living in the dark ages compared to "just" 99% of the profit from pushing the world forward.

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Leon

in reply to Endymion_Mallorn • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

but it the thinking behind it is very utopian

I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Things don’t have to be realistic to be aspirational. It’s a bigger problem when people give up because improvement isn’t realistic or deemed necessary by comparison to some other factor.

Saw it a lot here. People would be all “sure our healthcare isn’t great but at least we’re not like the U.S.” as the rightwingers bit by bit enshittified the entire system.

A utopia is what we should aim for. What’s the point of anything less?

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Zorque

in reply to Leon • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

There's a difference between being realistic and being pessimistic. The latter expects any attempt to fail, while the former seeks an attainable path to a goal.

One can not attain that utopian vision without setting realistic goals. Setting your eyes on the end game without ever focusing on the path to get there is dooming yourself to failure.

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HarkMahlberg

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Fuck Vitalik Buterin.

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ClownsInSpace2

in reply to HarkMahlberg • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Damn, why?

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ThrowawayPermanente

in reply to ClownsInSpace2 • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

He's the founder of a major cryptocurrency project, Ethereum

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tabular

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Open source can refer to MIT licensed code/projects where it can be taken, modified and redistributed as proprietary software without giving back. You can't contribute without wondering if you're doing work for a mega corp.

I would be temped to argue that doesn't go far enough. If copyleft wasn't circumvented by AI I'd argue for that.

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Badabinski

in reply to tabular • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I think a new GPL needs to be created to account for this. Like, "any generative system using this as an input which can ever replicate this code base (even in part), must be bound to this license." People could then run overfitting analysis to see if they ever get their copyleft code out of the model. If they do, then they have grounds to sue. I'm fine with an LLM being trained on my code, but I want the four freedoms to be preserved if it is.

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MudMan

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Heh. It's a very software-centric view. Open source trivializes things that can run as software on readily available hardware, but if there's a linear relationship between cost of hardware/manufacture and results you aren't solving much of the gatekeeping. There's plenty of open source availability for a lot of stuff, from email to LLMs, that nobody self-hosts. The problem isn't the underlying reproduction rights.

I will say this, I don't care about what the author or anybody else "supports". If we should have learned something from the last decade or two is that "support" means jack shit.

I care about regulation. And just like I think education, transportation, medical patents, health care and other key resources should be fundamentally public by law, the same is true of other technologies.

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piefood

in reply to MudMan • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

"...from email to LLMs, that nobody self-hosts"

As someone that self-hosts those things, both professionally and personally, I'm gonna have to disagree. I wish more did, but there are plenty of self-hosters out there, they just don't get headlines.

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MudMan

in reply to piefood • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I self host those, too.

I am nobody in the scale of this conversation.

I think there's a business opportunity in simplifying self hosting into a commodity (have your people call my people, we'll talk), but nobody is taking advantage of it other than, say, Synology, and they are still way too complicated and mostly only concerned with selling you hard drives.

Apple and Google aren't going to invent the iNAS or the Servoor until they can find a path to datamining and revenue in those that beats hosting things themselves, and that time is probably never. So while everybody uses Gmail and Facetime and ChatGPT nobody selfhosts.

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LainTrain

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I agree.

Even more broadly, politically - copyleft in general is very unpopular with people, even amongst leftists and self-identified communists who you'd think would be all about that since y'know, good of the commons and the fact that communist states literally didn't give a fuck about copyright and the literature seeing it transparently as another government method of enforcing corporate power, especially apparent today when it comes to pharmaceuticals snd the fact that capitalism needs this intellectual property monopoly as an added incentive for R&D is an issue with capitalism's broken incentive structures, not cost in and of itself or science/technology.

Few people seem to understand the power of intellectual property, and various critics of corporate technology either omit mentioning or openly defend intellectual property, despite corporations having monopolies being the reason enshittification is such a phenomenon in the first place.

It seems like a lot of arguments about the role of technology in society instead boil down to more-stuffism vs. less-stuffism, usually based on emotionally charged preference for modern aesthetics or how much they believe the noble savage/appeal to nature fallacies.

When it comes to AI for instance, anyone reasonable can see that if it's open sourced for everyone to use then it's just a simple common good like a public library, use it (responsibly) and there's no issue.

Closed source private models in use by corporations suck up the environment (which belongs to everyone) and use the capital they steal from wage workers who actually produce the things they sell to give themselves leverage over said consumers/workers and other corporations, and this is not fair to the 99%.

Picture a world where AI is good enough to where it actually provides value to use it in a good chunk of jobs, and the best AI is corporate and closed source, and they just enshittified it and jacked up the prices, but if you want to get a job, you better know how to use it well. It would mean that corpo has an enormous power over your life now and you got little choice but to pony up, and they can raise prices whenever they want and snowball that capital into more and more.

I think the reason in this instance is that a lot of artists are bourgeoisie themselves and they understand that. They may be progressive as a personality trait/gimmick/style and talk about "empathy" but they understand the material reality of things.

They had the opportunities and the room for failure necessary to go into such a high risk field, and their ultimate form of commercial success is essentially using that privilege to create intellectual property they could make money from, hence the "concerns" over "style theft" and moralist fearmongering over vaguely defined concepts like "soulless", which is usually as arbitrary as "white" for racists (not implying equivalence here).

I find generally that a lot of the anti-AI viewpoints are simple self-serving veils of bourgeoisie who's capital is threatened, no different from the culture war fearmongering about vaping, a dying grasp of the tobacco companies of old threatened by shenzen gadget slop factories.

The material reality is that digital goods are effectively infinite, copying an image isn't a crime nevermind copying a style or some such, it is transparently absurd to imply otherwise.

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Other

in reply to LainTrain • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I generally agree with the first part of your post but I feel you have a weird hang up on artists. Most artist didn't go to school for art, most artists are simply self taught.

The bare minimum cost of being an artist is a pencil and paper. And although their way of combating it with appeals to copyright is regressive. It comes from a place of desperation because at the end of the day they are laborers. And I've come to find that many tech people tend to diminish artists as laborers.

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themeatbridge

in reply to pdqcp • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

"I only eat food that's free."

I fully support open source software, but it's not feasible under the current economic system to expect everyone to exclusively contribute to open source projects.

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Semperverus

in reply to themeatbridge • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

You are allowed to charge money for open source.

Its the recipe that makes the food you're eating that would need to be publicly available and free to redistribute.

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Sckharshantallas

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

You’re allowed, but as long as anyone else can do it for free, you can’t build a business model on selling it. At most you can sell something else (support, cloud compute, some solution that makes using it easier etc.).

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hperrin

in reply to Sckharshantallas • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I don’t know why you’re getting downvoted. What you said is true.

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NukeNPave

in reply to Sckharshantallas • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Canonical seems to make some decent money off of their services.

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themeatbridge

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

It's not a perfect metaphor.

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chunkystyles

in reply to themeatbridge • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

None are.

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CriticalMiss

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Technically, according to the GPLv3 you don’t need to make the source code publically available. If you sell software with binaries then their source code must be included with it. If you’re Red Hat you can also add an additional ToS to the website that states if you buy the software you can’t freely distribute the source code you download from the website or you will be sued to oblivion.

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Alex

in reply to CriticalMiss • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

You must make the source available to anyone you distributed the binaries to. Where in Red Hats TOS does it say they will sue you? As far as I understand it the reserve the right to terminate the service you are paying for. But your rights to source for the binaries provided are not affected.

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hperrin

in reply to Semperverus • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Yep, you sure are. You also can’t stop someone from forking it and giving it away for free. See: Red Hat Enterprise Linux and AlmaLinux, Rocky Linux, etc.

Money in open source is one of the biggest hurdles to it becoming the norm. IMHO, governments should fund more open source projects and fund them at higher levels. We have art grants because art improves society, and we should have an equal or higher amount of open source grants because open source improves society too.

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sibachian

in reply to hperrin • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

many governments are currently trying to tear down art grants aren't they tho?

the majority keep voting for the people trying to break everything and get shocked when it breaks.

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Jean-luc Peak-hard

in reply to themeatbridge • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Bitwarden and Cryptpad. Both open source and self hostable, yet I pay for both. paying for open source is possible.

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sibachian

in reply to Jean-luc Peak-hard • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

i stopped paying for cryptpad when they stopped building their own software and started peddling the utter garbage that is onlyoffice.

i asked them a few years ago if they are planning to build something new and they just said why build when there are things like onlyoffice already available.

sigh.

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Novaling

in reply to Jean-luc Peak-hard • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

He never said paying for open source projects is impossible, obviously we have the ability pay. It's the expecting EVERYONE to drop money on every FOSS project that's infeasible. That shit ads up.

It's the same issue that PeerTube has, people making free content with no ads, but they aren't guaranteed payment. I'm not about to pay $5 per month on Patreon for every creator that I like, cause that's just not sustainable.

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Phoenixz

in reply to themeatbridge • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

I don't mind paying for software.

I want free as in freedom, not free as in beer. Though a free beer might not be the worst thing in the world

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themeatbridge

in reply to Phoenixz • 1 mese fa (Ricevuto 3 settimane fa) • •

Sure, and I recognize that it's not a great metaphor. But I'm thinking about it from the developer side. Open Source software is not motivated by profits, and profit motivates a lot of developers. Some of the best software projects were actualized by a few committed individuals who were passionate about the purpose. But then you have Microsoft which tries to tie bonuses to lines of code, and ends up with bloated garbage because peoples is peoples.

Open source is good, in the same way free lunches for school children are good. The benefits are innumerable. But it's not feasible to expect every developer to commit to open source projects when their efforts might not be rewarded.

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HubertManne

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Its my way of thinking. From the ip perspective I can see peoples argument about profits and companies but for individuals you are likely to get your stuff stolen and used by companies. I mean look at ai training. So better to deny any company trying to claim your work is thiers. Added to that is the company technology that goes to the graveyard. Open source allows ones work to be immortal. Then from the user perspective we all know how controlling and privacy invasive proprietary software is.

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Cris

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How the world "should" respond to the thing we care about is an actively counter-productive thing to get hung up on.

Its much important how they do respond to it, and how we can reach those who don't connect with it

(And that doesn't just lecturing people and trying to brow beat them into caring about it, which seems like the default approach for a lot of foss folks 🥲 thats the opposite or reaching people, that's alienating them)

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I’m an open source developer who’s put thousands of hours of work into my open source projects.

Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining open source projects: $0
Amount of money I’ve made from writing and maintaining closed source projects: idk exactly, but probably close to $1,000,000 (over ten years of working in big tech)

I get wanting to use open source software. I want to use open source software. I want to write open source software. I do write open source software. But please understand that I only do that because I enjoy it. I also need to pay the bills, and there’s not much money in writing open source software.

If you value an open source project, especially if it’s just a small development team that doesn’t sell anything, please donate to them.

Right now, I run an email service, port87.com/, and it is technically closed source. But it’s built on my open source projects, Svelte Material UI, Nymph.js, and Nephele. Probably about 70% of the code that makes up Port87 is open source, and if you use Port87, you’re helping me continue to develop those open source projects. So even if you don’t donate to open source projects, there are other ways to contribute. Support companies who support open source projects.

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Frezik

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This sort of thing can't really be done in capitalism at all. Open Source (as it was advanced by Eric S. Raymond and the Mozilla Project back in the late 90s) was always stuck in a capitalist way of thinking.

In a society where everyone has their basic needs met and people are expected to contribute what they can, writing FOSS can be your contribution.

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The early mobile phone apps conditioned people to expect things free.

I donate to any project, open or closed source if it's worth it.

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Attic Insulation Installers: What You Need to Know for a More Comfortable Home

If you’ve ever stepped into your attic and felt like you were walking into a furnace—or a freezer, depending on the season—you’re not alone. In a climate like Scottsdale’s, where temperatures often soar above 100°F in summer, your attic plays a huge role in determining your home's comfort and energy efficiency. That’s where professional attic insulation installers come in. Whether you're building a new home, upgrading an older one, or just looking to cut down those soaring energy bills, installing or updating your attic insulation is one of the smartest investments you can make.

In this post, we’ll cover everything you need to know about attic insulation installation, from why it matters to how to choose the right installer in the Scottsdale area.

Why Is Attic Insulation So Important?
Attic insulation acts as a thermal barrier between your home and the outside environment. In the intense Arizona heat, proper insulation prevents the sun’s radiant heat from penetrating your living spaces. During the cooler months, it works in reverse—keeping the heat inside where it belongs.

Here’s how attic insulation benefits your home:

Lower energy bills – By reducing the amount of heat entering in summer and escaping in winter, your HVAC system doesn’t have to work as hard.

Improved indoor comfort – No more drastic temperature swings between rooms or floors.

Extended HVAC lifespan – Less strain on your heating and cooling systems means fewer repairs and a longer operational life.

Environmental benefits – Reduced energy use means a smaller carbon footprint.

Types of Attic Insulation
Before diving into the installation process, it’s helpful to understand the types of attic insulation available:

Blown-In (Loose-Fill) Insulation
This is one of the most common types for attics. It’s made of fiberglass or cellulose and is ideal for irregular or hard-to-reach areas. It's fast to install and great for topping off existing insulation.
Batt (Roll) Insulation
Typically made from fiberglass, batt insulation comes in pre-cut panels. It works well in attics with standard joist spacing and few obstructions.
Spray Foam Insulation
This option offers superior thermal performance and air sealing but tends to be more expensive. It's especially useful if your attic is prone to air leaks or moisture problems.

Why Hire Professional Attic Insulation Installers?
You might be tempted to tackle attic insulation as a DIY project, but here’s why working with professionals—like our team at Scottsdale Attic Insulation—makes a big difference:

Accurate Assessment
A certified installer will assess your current insulation, check for air leaks, and identify moisture issues before recommending a tailored solution.
Proper Installation
Even the best insulation materials won’t perform well if they’re improperly installed. Professionals ensure coverage is consistent and complete, avoiding gaps that reduce effectiveness.
Safety First
Working in an attic can be dangerous. Trained installers have the equipment and experience to avoid injury, electrical hazards, and exposure to insulation materials.
Building Code Compliance
Insulation requirements vary by region. A licensed installer ensures your home meets Scottsdale’s building and energy codes, which is especially important if you plan to sell your home in the future.

What to Expect During the Installation Process
At Scottsdale Attic Insulation, we make the process as smooth and transparent as possible. Here’s what typically happens:

Inspection & Evaluation – We start with a thorough inspection of your attic to evaluate current insulation levels, ventilation, and potential problem areas.

Custom Recommendations – Based on your home’s specific needs, we recommend the best insulation type and R-value (thermal resistance).

Prepping the Space – We seal any air leaks, repair damage, and ensure the attic is clean and safe for installation.

Insulation Installation – Whether it’s blown-in fiberglass or spray foam, our team installs your new insulation with precision and care.

Final Inspection – After installation, we double-check everything to ensure maximum performance and customer satisfaction.

Questions to Ask Your Attic Insulation Installer
Choosing the right contractor matters. Here are a few questions to ask before hiring someone:

Are you licensed and insured?

What type of insulation do you recommend for my home, and why?

How long will the installation take?

What R-value do you suggest?

Do you offer any warranties or guarantees?

Why Choose Scottsdale Attic Insulation?
We’re a local team that understands the unique challenges of insulating homes in the Sonoran Desert climate. Our focus is on high-quality materials, expert installation, and honest service. When you work with us, you're not just improving your home's comfort—you’re investing in long-term energy savings and peace of mind.

Ready to Make Your Home More Efficient?
If you’ve been noticing higher utility bills, hot or cold spots in your home, or if it’s just been a while since your attic insulation was evaluated, now’s the perfect time to schedule an inspection. At Scottsdale Attic Insulation, we’re here to help with friendly, professional service every step of the way.

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Blown In Insulation: Everything You Need to Know for a More Comfortable Home

If you’re a homeowner in Scottsdale or the surrounding areas, you probably already know how critical proper insulation is to maintaining comfort and reducing energy bills. But if your attic insulation is outdated, compressed, or simply insufficient for our intense Arizona climate, your home could be losing a lot of energy—and money. One of the best solutions to upgrade your home's energy efficiency is blown in insulation.

In this article, we’ll break down everything you need to know about blown in insulation, from how it works and what materials are used, to its many benefits and why it's such a smart investment for Scottsdale homes.

What Is Blown In Insulation?
Blown in insulation—also known as loose-fill insulation—is a type of insulation made from small particles of material that are blown into place using specialized equipment. This allows the insulation to fill cavities and cover irregular spaces more completely than traditional batts or rolls.

There are two main types commonly used in attics:

Cellulose – Made from recycled paper products treated with fire retardants.

Fiberglass – Made from spun glass fibers and also treated for fire safety.

Both types are highly effective at creating a thermal barrier that helps keep indoor temperatures stable all year round.

How Is It Installed?
The process is quick, clean, and minimally invasive—making it a favorite among homeowners and insulation pros alike.

Assessment: A professional will inspect your attic to determine how much insulation is needed and identify any issues like leaks, pests, or inadequate ventilation.

Preparation: If existing insulation is damaged or needs to be removed, that step comes first.

Installation: A blowing machine is used to distribute the loose-fill material evenly across the attic floor, filling every nook and cranny.

Finishing Touches: The insulation is leveled to a consistent depth to ensure optimal performance.

For most standard-size homes, the entire process can often be completed in just a few hours.

Why Scottsdale Homes Need Blown In Insulation
Arizona’s climate poses unique challenges—especially the extreme summer heat. Blown in insulation can significantly improve your home’s ability to withstand these temperatures. Here’s how:

Improved Energy Efficiency: A well-insulated attic can lower your cooling bills by up to 20%. Blown in insulation helps create a strong thermal barrier that keeps your AC from working overtime.

Year-Round Comfort: While summers get all the attention, Scottsdale can also see chilly desert nights in the winter. Blown in insulation helps regulate indoor temperatures in all seasons.

Moisture and Mold Resistance: When properly installed, blown in insulation can also help reduce the risk of moisture buildup—especially with cellulose, which is treated to resist mold and pests.

Environmentally Friendly: Cellulose is made from recycled materials, and fiberglass has a relatively low environmental footprint. Both options contribute to greener living.

The Benefits of Blown In Over Other Insulation Types
You might be wondering how blown in insulation compares to traditional batt or spray foam insulation. Here's a quick breakdown:

Feature Blown In Insulation Batt Insulation Spray Foam
Coverage Excellent – fills gaps completely Good – may leave gaps Excellent
Installation Speed Fast Moderate Slower
Cost Affordable Affordable Higher
Sound Dampening Great Moderate Good
Best Use Attics, retrofits Walls, new construction Sealing air leaks

For many Scottsdale homeowners, blown in insulation offers the best combination of performance, affordability, and ease of installation—especially for upgrading attics.

How Long Does It Last?
When professionally installed and maintained, blown in insulation can last 20 to 30 years or more. It doesn't settle as quickly as many people assume, especially modern fiberglass versions, and remains effective for decades. Regular inspections can help ensure it maintains its depth and effectiveness over time.

When Should You Consider Upgrading?
If you’re experiencing any of the following, it might be time to upgrade your attic insulation:

High energy bills, especially in summer

Uneven indoor temperatures

Drafts or hot spots in the home

Old or damaged insulation

Preparing to sell your home and want to improve energy ratings

Upgrading to blown in insulation is not only practical but also one of the most cost-effective ways to boost your home’s energy efficiency and resale value.

Why Work With Scottsdale Attic Insulation?
At Scottsdale Attic Insulation, we specialize in helping local homeowners stay cool in the summer, warm in the winter, and save money all year round. Our experienced technicians use high-quality materials and state-of-the-art equipment to ensure your blown in insulation is installed perfectly the first time.

We understand the unique needs of homes in the Scottsdale area and take pride in providing honest, friendly service with results you can feel.

Final Thoughts
Blown in insulation is a simple yet powerful upgrade that offers immediate and long-term benefits for homeowners in Scottsdale. Whether you’re dealing with rising energy costs, uneven temperatures, or just want to make your home more eco-friendly, blown in insulation is a smart, effective solution.

Ready to improve your home’s comfort and efficiency? Contact Scottsdale Attic Insulation today for a free consultation and find out how blown in insulation can make a big difference in your home.

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Centralscrutinizer

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@musica era un po' che volevo lanciare questo suggerimento: gli album che pubblichi sono tutti interessanti, ma non riesco a starti dietro! 😅 Hai pensato di trasformare un album al giorno in un album a settimana? Ascoltare ed apprezzare certi lavori necessità tempo.. Almeno uno ogni 3 gg 🙏

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