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How Tea’s Founder Convinced Millions of Women to Spill Their Secrets, Then Exposed Them to the World
How Tea’s Founder Convinced Millions of Women to Spill Their Secrets, Then Exposed Them to the World
A 404 Media investigation reveals how the man who started Tea, the ‘women dating safety’ app, tried to hire a female ‘face’ for the company and then hijack her grassroots community.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
How Tea’s Founder Convinced Millions of Women to Spill Their Secrets, Then Exposed Them to the World
On March 16, 2023, Paola Sanchez, the founder and administrator of Are We Dating the Same Guy?, a collection of Facebook groups where women share “red flags” about men, received a message from Christianne Burns, then fiancée of Tea CEO and founder Sean Cook.“We have an app ready to go called ‘Tea - Women’s Dating Community’, that could be a perfect transition for the ‘Are we dating the same guy’ facebook groups since it sounds like those are on their way under… Tea has all the safety measures that Facebook lacked and more to ensure that only women are in the group,” Burns said. “We are looking for a face and founder of the app and because of your experience, we think YOU will be the perfect person! This can be your thing and we are happy to take a step back and let you lead all operations of the product.”
The Tea app, much like the Are We Dating the Same Guy Facebook groups, invites women to join and share red flags about men to help other women avoid them. In order to verify that every person who joined the Tea app was a woman, Tea asked users to upload a picture of their ID or their face. Tea was founded in 2022 but largely flew under the radar until July this year, when it reached the top of the Apple App Store chart, earned glowing coverage in the media, and claimed it had more than 1.6 million users.
Burns’ offer to make Sanchez the “face” of Tea wasn't the first time she had reached out to her, but Sanchez never replied to Burns, despite multiple attempts to recruit her. As it turned out, Tea did not have all the “safety measures” it needed to keep women safe. As 404 Media first reported, Tea users’ images, identifying information, and more than a million private conversations, including some about cheating partners and abortions, were compromised in two separate security breaches in late July. The first of these breaches was immediately abused by a community of misogynists on 4chan to humiliate women whose information was compromised.
A 404 Media investigation now reveals that after Tea failed to recruit Sanchez as the face of the app and adopt the Are We Dating the Same Guy community, Tea shifted tactics to raid those Facebook groups for users. Tea paid influencers to undermine Are We Dating the Same Guy and created competing Facebook groups with nearly identical names. 404 Media also identified a number of seemingly hijacked Facebook accounts that spammed the real Are We Dating The Same Guy groups with links to Tea app.
404 Media’s investigation also discovered a third security breach which exposed the personal data of women who were paid to promote the app.
“Since first creating these [Are We Dating The Same Guy] groups, I have avoided speaking to the media as much as possible because these groups require discretion and privacy in order to operate safely and best protect our members,” Sanchez told 404 Media. “However, recent events have led me to decide to share some concerning practices I’ve witnessed, including messages I received in the past that appear to contradict some of the information currently being presented as fact.”
Burns is no longer with Cook or involved with Tea, and she did not respond to multiple requests for comment. But messages from Burns to Sanchez show that Cook changed his story about why he created Tea after they broke up. 404 Media also talked to a former Tea employee who said she only knew Burns as “Tara,” a persona that also exists in the Tea app and on Facebook as an official representative of the Tea app. This employee said that when Burns left the company, Cook took over the persona and communicated with other Tea users as if he was Tara.
Overall, our reporting shows that while Cook said he built Tea to “protect women,” he repeatedly put them at risk and tried to replace a grassroots movement started by a woman who declined to help him. As one woman who worked for him at Tea told us: “his [Cook’s] motive is money, not actually to protect people.”
Tea did not directly answer a list of specific questions regarding 404 Media’s findings and the facts presented in this article. Instead, it sent us the following statement:
“Building and scaling an app to meet the demand we’ve seen is a complex process. Along the way, we’ve collaborated with many, learned a great deal and continue to improve Tea,” a Tea spokesperson said. “What we know, based on the fact that over 7 million women now use Tea, with over 100,000 new sign ups per day, is that a platform to help women navigate the challenges of online dating has been needed for far too long. As one of the top apps in the U.S. App Store, we are proud of what we’ve built, and know that our mission is more urgent than ever. We remain committed to evolving Tea to meet the needs of our growing community every day.”
How Tea Tried to Recruit a Female “Face” for the App
Sanchez started the first Are We Dating The Same Guy Facebook group in 2022 after her terrible experiences dating. The basic premise—a space for women to share information about men with other women—has existed in various forms before, but Are We Dating The Same Guy quickly became an online phenomenon. Today, Are We Dating The Same Guy is comprised of more than 200 different Facebook groups dedicated to different cities across the U.S. and Canada and has more than 7 million members. The groups have many volunteer moderators, but Sanchez is still the administrator for most of them.Women in the groups, who can also post anonymously, share a wide range of experiences, from relatively benign complaints about men they didn’t like, to serious accusations of infidelity and physical assault.
The popularity of Are We Dating The Same Guy groups is evidence that its members find them useful, but that popularity has come with a cost. Sanchez has become increasingly cautious after several attempts at retaliation from disgruntled men who are organizing on Telegram to dox women in the group and at least one lawsuit. In that case, a man accused Are We Dating The Same Guy of libel after a user in the Chicago group called him “clingy” and a “psycho.” Sanchez also said she had a rock thrown through the window of her family’s home by a man who wanted to stop Are We Dating The Same Guy, that she pays for a service to wipe her personal information from the internet, and that she generally keeps a low profile. This is the first time she has talked to the press.
By the time she was first approached by Burns in October, 2022, Sanchez was suspicious of Tea’s interest in Are We Dating The Same Guy because of some of the negative attention the groups already got.
“I’m a huge fan of all the work you're doing and I think it will have an ENORMOUS and important benefit on the lives of women,” Burns said in a Facebook message to Sanchez on October 25, 2022. At the time, Burns’ Facebook profile picture was a photo of her and Cook smiling. “My fiance and I have been working on a similar project due to my own dating woes and thought you’d be the perfect person to collaborate with on it.”
This is an entirely different origin story than the one Cook tells about Tea today. On Linkedin, Tea’s site, and interviews, Cook says that he “launched Tea after witnessing his mother’s terrifying experience with online dating—not only being catfished but unknowingly engaging with men who had criminal records.”
Before starting Tea, Cook worked at a couple of tech companies in San Francisco, including Salesforce, where he held a “director” title and rapped and made songs about Salesforce products during presentations he shared on Linkedin.
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There is no mention of Burns on the Tea site, but in 2022 she persistently asked Sanchez to join Tea.
In addition to messaging her on Patreon and Facebook, on December 2, Burns sent Sanchez $25 on Venmo along with a message thanking Sanchez for her work. “Sent you a PM on Facebook re: Business collab when you get a chance! 😊” On December 7, 2022 Burns sent Sanchez $15 on buymeacoffee.com along with a message about a “business opportunity,” and “an app with a similar concept to the facebook groups you manage that I would love to collaborate with you on!”
In April2023, after Sanchez didn’t respond to Tea’s requests, Are We Dating The Same Guy group admins started banning a set of Facebook accounts posting links to the Tea app over and over again. For example, Are We Dating The Same Guy moderators banned one Facebook user named Crystal Lee from 25 groups across the country after the account repeatedly encouraged members to use Tea and suggested that information about the men they’re asking about was available there. Lee’s account was clearly hijacked from a woman with a different name sometime around 2016. While the account name is Crystal Lee, the name in the URL for her page is Kimberly Ritchart. I found Richart’s new Facebook account, where her first post in 2016 says she lost access to her original account. 404 Media couldn’t confirm who was in control of the account, and saw no evidence that Tea was behind it, but activity from similarly hijacked accounts indicate that there was an organized effort to stealthily promote the Tea app in the Are We Dating The Same Guy groups.
Two other Facebook accounts, Norma Warner and Morgan Ward, were banned from 23 groups and five groups respectively for spamming Tea app promotions. Warner and Ward also shared identical replies two weeks apart. “If I remember correctly, I think he’s been posted to Tea. I maybe [sic] mistaking him for someone else but looks pretty familiar,” both replies said in response to different posts in different groups.
Veronica Marz told me she was hired in April 2024 to be Tea’s partnerships manager. Her job was to manage the affiliate program that would pay people $1 per user who signed up to Tea via their unique affiliate link. She also moderated a number of groups named “Are We Dating the Same Guy | Tea App” for different cities, which were started by and owned by the Tea app and could obviously confuse Facebook users. Marz also reached out to admins of the real Are We Dating The Same Guy groups to ask if they’d be willing to join the affiliate program.While reporting this story, 404 Media discovered that Tea’s data about the affiliate program, including who signed up for it, their real name, how much they have been paid, their emails, phone numbers, Venmo accounts, and charities they wanted to donate to if they didn’t want the money, were left exposed online. All a hacker or other third party had to do to view all of this data was add “/admin” to the public Tea affiliate site’s URL. Tea turned off this site and the affiliate program entirely after 404 Media reached out for comment for this article on August 13.
On December 1, 2024, Marz noticed an account named Nicole Li who was spamming Tea app promotions in one of the Facebook groups she managed for Tea as part of her job. Li was not part of the affiliate program that Marz managed, and unbeknownst to Marz, moderators of the original Are We Dating The Same Guy groups would eventually ban the Li account later. At that point, Marz was reporting directly to Cook, and she flagged the account to him because it was suspicious and spamming several groups at the same time.
“Sean uses that account to communicate directly with users on the app, but people think they are speaking to someone actually named Tara."
“Just wanted to check and see if this person was working with the Tea app?,” Marz said in a text to Cook along with a screenshot of the account seen by 404 Media. “I’ve noticed that they’ve joined all the groups regardless of location and they’ve been promoting the app, but they aren’t a part of the affiliate program that I saw.”Cook replied: “Not sure what’s going on there but as long as they’re not bothering anyone, I guess let’s just let them do their thing!”
All of the Facebook accounts that spammed Tea promotions were either deactivated or did not respond to our request for comment. None of the accounts were officially part of Tea’s affiliate program, according to the exposed data.
404 Media has seen several messages from Are We Dating the Same Guy Facebook group members and moderators confused about whether the Tea app was the official Are We Dating The Same Guy app, and whether Sanchez was affiliated with it. Several people also wondered if the Tara persona, which reached out to them on Facebook, was associated with Tea or if Sanchez was behind it. One review of the Tea app on the Google Play Store from January, 2024 also seemed confused and disappointed by the app.
“A girl in a FB group referred me (I think she was actually advertising 🤷),” the review said. “She called it a free app. It’s not free [...] The fb groups should have raised MORE THAN ENOUGH to cover app costs that are referred to in other reviews [...] I find this gross. Maybe I’ll come around or be back, but for now I’ll stick with fb.”
Marz also told me that several users in the Tea-owned Facebook groups were confused, and thought that they were in the original Are We Dating The Same Guy groups owned by Sanchez.“Maybe five to seven people in different groups asked me about Paola Sanchez, and I had to explain to them, like, ‘Hey, this is not Paola’s group. This group is owned by the Tea app,’” she told me. “I had to explain to them the difference between the two.”
Tea’s promotion strategy clearly managed to poach and confuse some members of the Are We Dating The Same Guy community and get them to join the app. Later, its strategy was to undermine Are We Dating The Same Guy directly.
Today, Tea’s website credits an influencer named Daniella Szetela as helping to widely promote Tea: “One day while scrolling, Sean discovered a viral creator, Daniella, whose content resonated with millions of women—and saw an opportunity to bring that same energy to Tea. What began as a simple idea quickly turned into a social media movement.” The site says Cook was so impressed with her voice and following, he made her “Head of Socials.” A March, 2025 archive of the same page on Tea’s site tells the same story, but at the time Szetela’s title was “Chief Female Officer.”
“Together, Sean and Daniella have transformed Tea into more than an app—it’s a movement,” Tea’s site says.
In September 2024 Tea started posting videos to its official TikTok and Instagram accounts named @TheTeaPartyGirls. Some of the videos are of Szetela showing the app and talking about how great it is. Other videos are made to look like they’re coming from other Tea users, but in reality are produced by a company called SG Social Branding, which describes itself as a “Gen Z Creator Powerhouse Delivering Short Form Videos to be used for YOUR Brand’s Paid Social Ads.” According to its site, SG Social Branding has a team of “over 35 gen Z creators” who create videos for clients. These videos are made in the the style of common social media posts, like an influencer talking directly to the camera, doing man on the street interviews, or videos that look like they are clips from podcasts, but are from podcasts that don’t actually exist.
On a “case studies” page for Tea on the SG Social Branding website, the company says that Tea’s “ask” was to “Develop the narrative that Tea is the go to for Women who like to stay safe while dating.”
“We deployed creators for street interviews in locations such as NYC during daytime and the Nightlife scene on college campuses. Additionally, we made entertaining podcast clips of girl talk that is truly un-scrollable,” the case studies page says. Under “results” it says “The TEA app went #1 in the app store on July 23rd, 2025 and is now viral! Videos deployed from SGSB creators crossed over 3.4 million views with over 74k shares and rising.”
In these videos, the influencers don’t only promote Tea and talk about it as if they actually found information on it about men they know, they also repeatedly disparage Are We Dating The Same Guy Facebook groups.
“Instead of using that Facebook group Are We Dating the Same Guy, what girls are doing now because it’s so much easier is they’re downloading Tea,” a woman holding a microphone says as if she’s talking to someone off-camera. The text overlaid on the video says “Tea Party Pod.” The woman, Savannah Isabella, is an influencer who works for SG Social Branding. She goes on to talk about how one of her friends found a guy she was seeing there and all the red flags other women have posted about him. “Miss me with that. Boy bye. And it’s so much easier and faster than that Facebook group.”
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In another video, Isabella is at a bar, demoing the Tea app. “Girls, forget about Are We Dating The Same Guy,” she says.Isabella and SG Social Branding did not respond to a request for comment.
Marz told me that she was hired to Tea by a woman named Tara and that initially she only communicated with Tara. Marz did a Zoom interview with Tara before she started to work for Tea and the woman identified herself as Tara over text and email. In November 2024, Marz said that Tara left the company, at which point she started reporting directly to Cook. When I showed Marz a photograph of Christianne Burns, Cook’s then fiancée, she said that was who she knew as Tara, who first interviewed her over Zoom.
After "Tara" left, Marz said Sean took over the “Tara Tea” account which was used to communicate with Tea users in the app and on Facebook.
“Sean uses that account to communicate directly with users on the app, but people think they are speaking to someone actually named Tara,” she told me. Essentially, a man is posing as a woman to an audience of women who are trying to protect themselves from, at best, deceptive men.
How Tea Deleted Posts About Men
Tori Benitez has a private consulting business for victims of domestic violence who are in Family Court for high conflict divorces or custody battles. She told me she joined the Tea app because it promoted digital safety, talking about abusers, and protecting people by letting them share information anonymously.“I'm in the dating scene and on dating apps, and have had my own experience, so I first joined as a user, and then I saw them post that they needed help with escalation claims,” she told me. The escalation claims were complaints both from men about what women were posting about them in the app as well as complaints from other users. She thought her experience as a paralegal would be useful, and she could use more remote work, so she sent Tea her information.
“I had a Zoom call with Sean, and he wanted to know not only a little bit about my business and how I help people, but I had to tell my own personal story.” Benitez said. “I had an ex who literally threatened to kill me and told me how he was going to kill me, even after a restraining order. My story is deep and scary, and he kind of interrupted me and started crying. And I was like, ‘Oh, are you okay?’ Looking back, shouldn't I have been the one crying? It's kind of weird.”
Benitez said she took the job because she wanted to help women. During the interview and at several points while working for Tea, Benitez said that Cook wanted to make her consulting business part of Tea. Benitez said Cook floated having a tab in the Tea app that would send women to her consulting business if they needed help, or having her run workshops for users.
“I feel like his [Cook’s] motive is money, not actually to protect people, and I think that his story about his mom is a crock of shit.”
Benitez started working in April of this year but said the job wasn’t what she expected because it made no use of her experience as a paralegal. She said the work was more like customer support, and mainly had her filtering through complaints, responding to them according to a strict script she was given, and keeping a record of the responses.If a complaint contained words like “defamation” or seemed legally threatening, she would find the post in question and the user who posted it. At times she would contact the user and ask them if the post was true and if they had any evidence to prove it. Sometimes users would respond and say the accusations were true, and the post would remain. Sometimes the users also provided supporting evidence, like court documents. Sometimes the users would delete the posts themselves, or Tea would delete the posts if the users didn’t respond to Benitez’s questions after a certain amount of time.
“That's when things would get deleted and literally no longer exist on there,” she said. “Nobody could find them. They did not go into an archive. They are just poof gone.”
She would record all the complaints and responses in a spreadsheet for Tea’s internal records, but said it didn’t always make sense when Tea decided to delete a public post on the Tea app vs when it decided to leave one up. In one interview in May, 2025, Cook said the Tea app receives “three legal threats a day from men,” and that Tea has a full legal team that helps it manage those situations.
Benitez said that in one case, Cook told her he would handle a complaint from a man regarding what was said about him on the app himself because Cook knew the man personally.
“He [Cook] seemed to side with or randomly choose to delete things that just didn't make sense and felt really concerning to me,” she said. “But I felt I had no room to complain, because every time I brought up a concern his response was either ‘ignore it,’ or ‘I will handle it,’ and there's no HR, so it's not like I can go anywhere to say all this stuff's happening. I didn't have any other point of contact other than him.”
Benitez also said she raised concerns about users’ behavior on the app. She said that at some point earlier this year Tea went viral in one town in Louisiana, where Tea users started going after each other and the number of complaints exploded.
“There was a lot of fighting in the comments between users. There were a lot of threats between users. It just turned into a chat room,” she said. “They would be fighting each other. Like, ‘Where are you at? I’ll pull up on you.’ I was like, ‘holy shit.’ There would be racist posts. It just started getting bad, and I mentioned that to him [Cook] as well, and I basically got the answer of let them say whatever they want. And like this whole like, you know, ‘It's free speech.’ I thought this was about protecting people,” Benitez recalled.
In May, Benitez said Cook was late to pay her. When she asked about it, Cook said he didn’t have the money, and asked her to keep working until he did, or work for less pay. At that point, Benitez said she wouldn’t work until she got paid for the work she already did. Eventually Cook sent her the money for the hours she already worked, but Benitez never came back.
There are currently two class action lawsuits in motion against Tea accusing the company of failing to properly secure users’ private information. After these complaints were filed Tea updated its terms of service, which now require users to waive their right to participate in class actions against the company, and agree to attempt an “informal dispute resolution” before suing the company.
“I feel like his [Cook’s] motive is money, not actually to protect people,” Benitez said, “and I think that his story about his mom is a crock of shit.”
Tea’s Security Breaches Put Users at Risk
On July 25, 404 Media broke the news that Tea made an error that completely exposed a database containing at least 72,000 thousand images from its users, and that a misogynistic 4chan community downloaded them and shared them online in various forms in order to harass and humiliate women. On July 28, 404 Media revealed an even worse security breach to Tea, which exposed more than a million private messages between Tea users that included identifying information and intimate conversations about cheating partners and abortions.After the first hack, someone created a website modeled after “Facemash,” the site that Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg infamously created while he was a student at Harvard to rank the attractiveness of female students at the university. This new site, based on Tea data, took the selfies women uploaded to Tea in order to verify they are women, presented them to visitors in pairs, and allowed them to choose which they believed was more attractive. The site used the votes to create a ranking and also highlighted the list of the 50 most and least attractive women according to votes.
The second breach was far more dangerous not only because the direct messages between Tea users that were exposed included conversations they thought were private about sensitive subjects that could become dangerous in the wrong hands, but also because those conversations included details that could be used to deanonymize users. Direct messages between users often included their real phone numbers, names, and social media handles.
“I posted on the app about a man who groomed and abused me as a minor,” one Tea user whose direct messages were exposed in the second security breach told 404 Media. The user asked to be anonymous because she’s heard about “incel dudes” doxing Tea users. “I joined Tea because I appreciated the premise of a ‘whisper network’ for community safety—because a huge amount of men are, in fact, unsafe individuals, and most of the time those impacted don't find out until it's too late.”
This user added that they felt safe enough to share intimate details on Tea because it was advertised as a “safe space” for women with a strong emphasis on anonymity.
“My reaction to the breach is anger, just anger, and some disgust,” the user said.
Kasra Rahjerdi, the researcher who flagged the second security breach to 404 Media, said there were signs he wasn’t the only person who may have accessed more than a million of private Tea messages. Every Tea user is assigned a unique API key which allows them to interface with the app in order to log in, read public posts, share posts, or do other actions in the app. Rahjerdi discovered that any Tea user was also able to use their own API key to access sensitive parts of the Tea app’s backend, including a database of private messages and the ability to send all Tea users a push notification.
This access also allowed users to create new databases, and Rahjerdi told 404 Media he saw someone else doing just that while he was looking at Tea’s backend. Most of these databases were empty, but one contained a link to a Discord server with a handful of users which shut down shortly after 404 Media tried to join it on July 26. This activity indicates that someone else found the same security breach as Rahjerdi and could have accessed more than a million private messages of Tea users as well.
In a podcast interview in April, 2025, Cook said he doesn’t know how to code, and that the Tea app was built by two developers in Brazil. According to Tea’s Linkedin page, both developers are contractors who are available to hire via Toptal, a platform where software developers offer their labor as remote freelancers. Those two developers did not respond to our request for comment.
Eva Galperin, the director of cybersecurity at the Electronic Frontier Foundation, told 404 Media that the private Tea messages could be especially dangerous to Tea users who talked about abortions or specific men.
“I would be particularly concerned about posts about abortions in say Texas, where SB 8 grants a private right of action to sue anyone who performs or facilitates an abortion that violates the law,” Galperin said. SB 8, also known as the “Texas Heartbeat Act,” bans abortion after the detection of a “fetal heartbeat,” which is usually six weeks into pregnancy. The law also allows anyone to sue anyone else who performs abortions or “aids and abets” performing or inducing an abortion in violation of the law. “I’d also be concerned about DMs containing information of sexual orientation or immigration status, or details about sexual assault that the survivor was sharing in private.”
Galperin said she would be “extremely concerned” if the messages got out, not just because of the men who are named in the messages, but because “There are people who think that anyone who has an account on this platform is fair game for harassment,” referring to some of the harassment we’ve already seen from 4chan.
Despite the risks the Tea app has already put users in, Tea has downplayed the impact of the security breaches, and has continued to grow in popularity. On July 28, Tea said in a post to Instagram that “some” direct messages were accessed as part of the initial incident, and that it had temporarily disabled the ability for users to send direct messages. The statement does not acknowledge that more than a million messages were exposed, and also misleads users that those messages were leaked as part of the initial breach. The messages were exposed in an entirely separate breach around different security issues. On July 26, after 404 Media reported about both Tea breaches, Tea said on Instagram that it received over 2.5 million requests to join the app. The replies from users on Instagram are filled with people who are on the Tea app waiting list to be approved. Again, even after it said it has hired a cybersecurity firm to address the two previously reported breaches, 404 Media found a third security issue that exposed users’ private information that Tea wasn’t aware of until we reached out for comment.
Today, Tea’s site boasts that more than 6.2 million women use the app.
Joseph Cox contributed reporting.
A Second Tea Breach Reveals Users’ DMs About Abortions and Cheating
The more than one million messages obtained by 404 Media are as recent as last week, discuss incredibly sensitive topics, and make it trivial to unmask some anonymous Tea users.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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Gaza genocide: Airdropped aid package kills Palestinian man
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UK | Zarah Sultana comes out swinging against bogus antisemitism smears
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From Book Bans to Internet Bans: Wyoming Lets Parents Control the Whole State’s Access to The Internet
From Book Bans to Internet Bans: Wyoming Lets Parents Control the Whole State’s Access to The Internet
If you've read about the sudden appearance of age verification across the internet in the UK and thought it would never happen in the U.S., take note: many politicians want the same or even more strict laws.Electronic Frontier Foundation
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European leaders mobilize on Ukraine’s security guarantees ahead of potential Putin-Zelensky-Trump summit
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Google President Praised MAGA Speech Slamming ‘Climate Extremist Agenda’
Google President Praised MAGA Speech Slamming ‘Climate Extremist Agenda’ - DeSmog
Interior Sec. Doug Burgum told an AI conference that data centers should be powered by coal, gas, and nuclear. Ruth Porat called his comments "fantastic.”Geoff Dembicki (DeSmog)
Google CIO Calls Trump Admin’s Climate Denialism “Fantastic” | Ruth Porat called for data centers to be powered by coal, gas, and nuclear
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Google Head Calls Trump Admin’s Climate Denialism “Fantastic”
Google CEO praised Interior Secretary Doug Burgum for slamming the “climate extremist agenda” and sayings data centers should be powered by coal, gas, and nuclear.The Lever
Google executive Ruth Porat calls Trump admin’s climate denialism “fantastic” and calls for data centers to be powered by coal, gas, and nuclear
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Google Head Calls Trump Admin’s Climate Denialism “Fantastic”
Google CEO praised Interior Secretary Doug Burgum for slamming the “climate extremist agenda” and sayings data centers should be powered by coal, gas, and nuclear.The Lever
96,000 UK Police Bodycam Videos Lost After Data Transfer Mishap
At the end of each shift, officers’ BWV footage was uploaded and stored to a central hub which could be accessed and managed, along with all of SYP’s digital evidence, via a secure system.Following an upgrade in May 2023, the secure system began to struggle processing BWV data and a local drive workaround was put in place.
In August 2023 SYP identified that its BWV file storage was very low and further investigation found that 96,174 pieces of original footage had been deleted from its system.
The following month it was found the deletion had taken place on 26 July 2023 and included the loss of data relating to 126 criminal cases, only three of the cases were impacted by the loss. Of those three cases, SYP states one may have progressed to the first court hearing if BWV had been available. However, as there was no additional independent evidence to prove the offence, progression to prosecution stage was already uncertain.
Prior to the deletion, 95,033 pieces of BWV footage had been copied to a new system that SYP was implementing but, due to poor record keeping, SYP remain unable to confirm the exact number of files deleted without copies made.
South Yorkshire Police reprimanded following deletion of body-worn video evidence
We have reprimanded South Yorkshire Police (SYP) after the force deleted over 96,000 pieces of body-worn video (BWV) evidence.ico.org.uk
UK commissioner suggests govt stops kids from using VPNs
End well, this won't: UK commissioner suggests govt stops kids from using VPNs
: Dame Rachel de Souza says under-18s are laughing off the Online Safety Act’s age blocksCarly Page (The Register)
PI rings the alarm bell and alerts UK Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) about the use of algorithms by the Home Office and their impact on migrants
PI filed a complaint with the UK Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO) against the Home Office’s policy and practice of collecting and processing data through two algorithmic tools used in immigration enforcement operations.Key findings
1. UK Home Office’s uses two algorithms for immigration purposes seemingly without sufficient safeguards to protect the right to privacy and meet data protection standards.
2. Migrants appear to be subject to automated decision making without adequate human review processes.
3. Migrants are not adequately informed and therefore are unable to challenge invasive data processing activities of automated tools.
PI rings the alarm bell and alerts ICO about the use of algorithms by the Home Office and their impact on migrants
On the basis of a year of legal research by PI as well as documents obtained by other civil society organisations, and evidence provided by legal representatives fighting these automated systems on behalf of their clients, on the 18th August 2025, we…Privacy International
How China Went From Clean Energy Copycat to Global Innovator
How China Went From Clean Energy Copycat to Global Innovator
A surge in high quality research and patent applications has cemented China’s dominance in the industry.Max Bearak (The New York Times)
German court overturns previous ruling that ad blocking isn't piracy
'Ad Blocking is Not Piracy' Decision Overturned By Top German Court * TorrentFreak
Legal action by publisher Axel Springer, which aims to outlaw ad blocking on copyright grounds, has been revived by Germany's top court.Andy Maxwell (TF Publishing)
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I’m sorry, this is obviously fake. Looks like British engineering at best.
Plus I have it on good authority that Germans prefer latex for their ergonomic devices.
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Why is copyright law even applicable here??
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That’s foul. I wouldn’t touch YouTube without Ublock. You ever try watching that garbage without it?
The one app game I like(d) was Scrabble. It was sold and is now an endless stream of ads. Turn, ad, turn, ad, turn, ad, nonstop. It’s unplayable. I had to delete it.
Ad blockers make media consumable. Granted, less screen time would likely benefit everyone.
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No, the regular Scrabble app. There are solo games, but mostly one on one games with strangers. And a speed competition more in keeping with real life play.
EA originally owned it. I bought it for $5 back on the first iPhone. Limited to banner ads. Then it died, because it was sold. Now it’s ScrabbleGO. The same with some eyeroll garbage for collecting new tile skins and a store for new skins and some pay to play. If that wasn’t bad enough, every time you take a turn, an ad plays after. Banners included as well. It’s unplayable in its current state.
The closest approximation would be words with friends. Also riddled with ads, triggered to play every 1-2 turns. Also unplayable. Also in addition to banner ads.
Scrabble is officially dead outside of real life play on a physical board. Which makes me sad. Real life play almost no one plays defensively so it’s just aggravating.
I don't touch youtube with a browser.
Grayjay. Or Newpipe.
If I just have to use a browser, then Invidious.
yt-dlp
Or, to make a historical reference to a very similar case that failed miserably for RIAA and was a great win for FOSS: youtube-dl
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"I've seen dead fish refuse to get wrapped in yesterday's BILD"
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not from scratch but using current infrastructure in a way that makes disrupting it suicide for the corporate internet.
Let's take a deep breath and consider what's happened. The Federal Court of Justice has sent the case back to the lower court. They have not ruled on anything. They have not said ad blocking is piracy. They have essentially said: lower court, you had 25 boxes to tick but you only ticked 24 in your ruling. Go back and do one that ticks all of them.
It's entirely possible that the lower court will change its ruling based on the intricacies of German copyright law, which is shit. But it's not very likely if you ask me. Regardless, whoever loses will appeal it again. This rodeo is far from over. And when it's eventually over the technology will have moved on, with any luck the law along with it, and the only beneficiaries will have been the lawyers.
So the headline should read more like "German court does not rule out that ad blocking could be a copyright infringement."
The argument that Axel Springer is just doing it for their love of democracy is also comical. Media pluralism is important, I agree with them that far, but they are stuck in an outdated mindset. They launched a silly tabloid Fox News wannabe TV channel and failed. They are trying to force eyeballs on their content like you are at a news agent. Meanwhile, news is happening on TikTok and so-called AI is going to reduce their page views to dust. By the time we get a final ruling they will have pivoted strategy 10 times to keep the c-suite in caviar while the established media business that made them successful is rotting away under their assess.
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Is returning it to a lower court overturning a ruling?
This sounds more like as described - "redo it". Overturning would be this court literally "over turning" and saying adblock is piracy.
Yes. The article only links to it in German but "Werbeblocker IV / Ad Blocker IV" on July 31 was the overturning case.
Axel previously tried twice in 2018 and 2023 and failed. Now that it is overturned, he is going to the Higher Regional Court of Hamburg to get a new ruling.
However I don't speak German or live in Germany, this is my understanding of this article and these court cases.
Here's a thing about LLMs, they will effectively make laws like this meaningless. Law comes in to enforce against a company building a program to block ads, extension goes off market. Someone asks their LLM "create an extension function referencing the same data set for my browser that performs the same function" boom new extension with no central point of distribution. Share the prompt on a forum, now everyone has a custom ad blocker. Or not so far down the road, LLM is directly built into the browser, no extension needed just prompt "do not display known advertisements on pages I request before loading, but perform background activity which gives feedback to the site that ads have loaded" boom done.
In a way, local LLMs are like distributed applications, they make enforcement against specific program functions pretty much impossible.
To have a proper justice system.
As the main comment explained: this is not saying "you got the wrong result", this is saying " the way you reached that result is not the proper way for our justice system".
So they are just saying that the lower court didn't do it's due diligence and needs to look again at the case, this time considering the parts they missed the first time.
It is not uncommon in Germany that cases like this end in the same result
To try and explain it in an easier to understand way:
Person X murders Person Y
Court A says "Guilty, because you suck"
Court Higher B says: "Suckiness is not a proper judicial term, do the whole thing again"
Court A says "guilty, because here is the witness testimony, your finger prints on the murder weapon and the video footage of you killing person Y".
Same result as before, but this time in a proper manner fitting a proper judicial system.
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Here's a thing about LLMs, they will effectively make laws like this meaningless. Law comes in to enforce against a company building a program to block ads, extension goes off market. Someone asks their LLM "create an extension function referencing the same data set for my browser that performs the same function" boom new extension with no central point of distribution. Share the prompt on a forum, now everyone has a custom ad blocker. Or not so far down the road, LLM is directly built into the browser, no extension needed just prompt "do not display known advertisements on pages I request before loading, but perform background activity which gives feedback to the site that ads have loaded" boom done.
In a way, local LLMs are like distributed applications, they make enforcement against specific program functions pretty much impossible.
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Of course torrentfreak would use the most outrageous & clickbaity title possible. It's not so bad though.
Discussed in another post:
I speak German legalese (don’t ask) so I went to the actual source and read up on the decision.The way I read it, the higher court simply stated that the Appeals court didn’t consider the impact of source code to byte code transformation in their ruling, meaning they had not provided references justifying the fact they had ignored the transformation. Their contention is that there might be protected software in the byte code, and if the ad blocker modified the byte code (either directly or by modifying the source), then that would constitute a modification of code and hence run afoul of copyright protections as derivative work.
Sounds more like, “Appeals court has to do their homework” than “ad blockers illegal.”
The ruling is a little painful to read, because as usual the courts are not particularly good at technical issues or controversies, so don’t quote me on the exact details. In particular, they use the word Vervielfältigung a lot, which means (mass) copy, which is definitely not happening here. The way it reads, Springer simply made the case that a particular section of the ruling didn’t have any reasoning or citations attached and demanded them, which I guess is fair. More billable hours for the lawyers! @
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Nah, come on — Springer is claiming that a website is a computer program.
But that's not quite accurate.
HTML and CSS aren't computer programs - they're markup/style sheet languages. They define structure and appearance but don’t perform computation or logic. JavaScript, is a programming language and can make a website behave like a program. The same goes for server-side technologies like PHP.
However, what Adblockers typically do is prevent certain resources from loading. They don't modify the underlying program logic itself - they're just manipulating the DOM or blocking elements before they render. So in many cases, we're not interfering with a "program" in the traditional sense, but rather adjusting the output or content that gets displayed.
they're just manipulating the DOM
Imagine trying to explain that in court. Yes, your honour, it's a sort of object-based model representing the document. No, it's not really a model of an object exactly. Yes, it's made of bits and bytes, the same kind as you would use in a computer program, but it has that in common with... no, it does not actually object to anything...
Very much this. See UK's legislation for terrorism and activism and how it's being used to squash peaceful protests for a current example.
What you should want instead is widespread independent journalism along with a transparent government, national broadcasting and a well educated, critically thinking society. If you try to control information by omission and restriction, you only make it more appealing as it seems like a cover-up. Example: how many times have you heard of the Epstein files in recent months and years? It could've been a grocery shopping list and the effect would've been the same because of how it's been handled.
In any case this only applies to adblock plus for now.
If I understand it correctly, they're arguing that any unauthorized "modification of the computer program" (i.e. the web page) is a copyright violation.
This wouldn't only affect adblockers... this would affect any browser feature, extension, or user script that modifies the page in any way, shape, or form... translators, easy reading modes, CSS modifiers (e.g., dark mode for pages that don't have it, or anything that improves readability for people with vision problems), probably screen readers...
This would essentially turn web browsers into the HTML equivalent of PDF readers, without any of the customisability that's been standard for decades...
Data that arrives in the browser is downloaded and processed there.
In a newspaper, I could ask someone to cut out the advertisements before I read them. Or not?
In other news: sunglasses are now prohibited in public transport, they were found to modify the perception of ads, modifying the intellectual property of ad maker in public places, the impact was a reduced market values of ad space in public transit which would have forced the city to increase the ticket price.
Stay tuned for news on those disgusting blinker pirate: those people blink twice more often than normal people which makes them see only half as many ads, police forces has invested millions in brand new blinking frequency detector, in order to more easily catch those dangerous criminals.
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The Terminal Demise Of Consumer Electronics Through Subscription Services
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The AI company Perplexity is complaining their plagiarism bot machine cannot bypass Cloudflare's firewall
Perplexity Says Cloudflare Is Blocking Legitimate AI Assistants
Perplexity defends its AI assistants against Cloudflare's claims, arguing that they are not web crawlers but user-triggered agents.Roger Montti (Search Engine Journal)
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then make all links to your website link to that snapshot, and turn your server off.
sorry archive.org, I promise I'll donate ❤️
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I get the centralization concerns, but I would think that's on the consumer since there are other options. As for the fascist content, as another commenter said, they could risk their safe harbor if they started stated regulating content that they weren't legally required to regulate.
Just my thoughts.
They’re not. They’re using this as an excuse to become paid gatekeepers of the internet as we know it. All that’s happening is that Cloudflare is using this to menuever into position where they can say “nice traffic you’ve got there - would be a shame if something happened to it”.
AI companies are crap.
What Cloudflare is doing here is also crap.
And we’re cheering it on.
I actually agree with them
This feels like cloudflare trying to collect rent from both sides instead of doing what’s best for the website owners.
There is a problem with AI crawlers, but these technologies are essentially doing a search, fetching a several pages, scanning/summarizing them, then presenting the findings to the user.
I don’t really think that’s wrong, it’s just a faster version of rummaging through the SEO shit you do when you Google something.
(I’ve never used perplexity, I do use Kagi’s ki assistant for similar search. It runs 3 searches and scans the top results and then provides citations)
Search engines been going relatively fine for decades now. But the crawlers from AI companies basically DDOS hosts in comparison, sending so many requests in such a short interval. Crawling dynamic links as well that are expensive to render compared to a static page, ignoring the robots.txt entirely, or even using it discover unlinked pages.
Servers have finite resources, especially self hosted sites, while AI companies have disproportinately more at their disposal, easily grinding other systems to a halt by overwhelming them with requests.
Cloudflare runs as a CDN/cache/gateway service in front of a ton of websites. Their service is to help protect against DDOS and malicious traffic.
A few weeks ago cloudflare announced they were going to block AI crawling (good, in my opinion). However they also added a paid service that these AI crawlers can use, so it actually becomes a revenue source for them.
This is a response to that from Perplexity who run an AI search company. I don’t actually know how their service works, but they were specifically called out in the announcement and Cloudflare accused them of “stealth scraping” and ignoring robots.txt and other things.
A few weeks ago cloudflare announced they were going to block AI crawling (good, in my opinion). However they also added a paid service that these AI crawlers can use, so it actually becomes a revenue source for them.
I think it's also worth pointing out that all of the big AI companies are currently burning through cash at an absolutely astonishing rate, and none of them are anywhere close to being profitable. So pay-walling the data they use is probably gonna be pretty painful for their already-tortured bottom line (good).
Perplexity (an "AI search engine" company with 500 million in funding) can't bypass cloudflare's anti-bot checks. For each search Perplexity scrapes the top results and summarizes them for the user. Cloudflare intentionally blocks perplexity's scrapers because they ignore robots.txt and mimic real users to get around cloudflare's blocking features. Perplexity argues that their scraping is acceptable because it's user initiated.
Personally I think cloudflare is in the right here. The scraped sites get 0 revenue from Perplexity searches (unless the user decides to go through the sources section and click the links) and Perplexity's scraping is unnecessarily traffic intensive since they don't cache the scraped data.
…and Perplexity's scraping is unnecessarily traffic intensive since they don't cache the scraped data.
That seems almost maliciously stupid. We need to train a new model. Hey, where’d the data go? Oh well, let’s just go scrape it all again. Wait, did we already scrape this site? No idea, let’s scrape it again just to be sure.
I think it boils down to "consent" and "remuneration".
I run a website, that I do not consent to being accessed for LLMs. However, should LLMs use my content, I should be compensated for such use.
So, these LLM startups ignore both consent, and the idea of remuneration.
Most of these concepts have already been figured out for the purpose of law, if we consider websites much akin to real estate: Then, the typical trespass laws, compensatory usage, and hell, even eminent domain if needed ie, a city government can "take over" the boosted post feature to make sure alerts get pushed as widely and quickly as possible.
That all sounds very vague to me, and I don't expect it to be captured properly by law any time soon. Being accessed for LLM? What does it mean for you and how is it different from being accessed by a user? Imagine you host a weather forecast. If that information is public, what kind of compensation do you expect from anyone or anything who accesses that data?
Is it okay for a person to access your site? Is it okay for a script written by that person to fetch data every day automatically? Would it be okay for a user to dump a page of your site with a headless browser? Would it be okay to let an LLM take a look at it to extract info required by a user? Have you heard about changedetection.io project? If some of these sound unfair to you, you might want to put a DRM on your data or something.
Would you expect a compensation from me after reading your comment?
That all sounds very vague to me, and I don’t expect it to be captured properly by law any time soon.
It already has been captured, properly in law, in most places. We can use the US as an example: Both intellectual property and real property have laws already that cover these very items.
What does it mean for you and how is it different from being accessed by a user?
Well, does a user burn up gigawatts of power, to access my site every time? That's a huge different.
Imagine you host a weather forecast. If that information is public, what kind of compensation do you expect from anyone or anything who accesses that data?
Depends on the terms of service I set for that service.
Is it okay for a person to access your site?
Sure!
Is it okay for a script written by that person to fetch data every day automatically?
Sure! As long as it doesn't cause problems for me, the creator and hoster of said content.
Would it be okay for a user to dump a page of your site with a headless browser?
See above. Both power usage and causing problems for me.
Would it be okay to let an LLM take a look at it to extract info required by a user?
No. I said, I do not want my content and services to be used by and for LLMs.
Have you heard about changedetection.io project?
I have now. And should a user want to use that service, that service, which charges 8.99/month for it needs to pay me a portion of that, or risk having their service blocked.
There no need to use it, as I already provide RSS feeds for my content. Use the RSS feed, if you want updates.
If some of these sound unfair to you, you might want to put a DRM on your data or something.
Or, I can just block them, via a service like Cloud Flare. Which I do.
Would you expect a compensation from me after reading your comment?
None. Unless you're wanting to access if via an LLM. Then I want compensation for the profit driven access to my content.
Both intellectual property and real property have laws already that cover these very items.
And it causes a lot of trouble to many people and pains me specifically. Information should not be gated or owned in a way that would make it illegal for anyone to access it under proper conditions. License expiration causing digital work to die out, DRM causing software to break, idiotic license owners not providing appropriate service, etc.
Well, does a user burn up gigawatts of power, to access my site every time?
Doing a GET request doesn't do that.
As long as it doesn't cause problems for me, the creator and hoster of said content.
What kind of problems that would be?
Both power usage and causing problems for me.
?? How? And what?
do not want my content and services to be used by and for LLMs.
You have to agree that at one point "be used by LLM" would not be different from "be used by a user".
which charges 8.99/month
It's self-hosted and free.
Use the RSS feed, if you want updates.
How does that prohibit usage and processing of your info? That sounds like "I won't be providing any comments on Lemmy website, if you want my opinion you can mail me at a@b.com"
I can just block them, via a service like Cloud Flare. Which I do.
That will never block all of them. Your info will be used without your consent and you will not feel troubled from it. So you might not feel troubled if more things do the same.
None. Unless you're wanting to access if via an LLM. Then I want compensation for the profit driven access to my content.
What if I use my local hosted LLM? Anyway, the point is, selling text can't work well, and you're going to spend much more resources on collecting and summarizing data about how your text was used and how others benefited from it, in order to get compensation, than it worths.
Also, it might be the case that some information is actually worthless when compared to a service provided by things like LLM, even though they use that worthless information in the process.
I'm all for killing off LLMs, btw. Concerns of site makers who think they are being damaged by things like Perplexity are nothing compared to what LLMs do to the world. Maybe laws should instead make it illegal to waste energy. Before energy becomes the main currency.
Information should not be gated or owned in a way that would make it illegal for anyone to access it under proper conditions.
Then you don't believe content creators should have any control over their own works?
The "proper conditions" are deemed by the content creator, not the consumers.
Doing a GET request doesn’t do that.
Not at all. It consumes at most, a watt.
What kind of problems that would be?
Increasing my hosting bill, to accommodate the senseless traffic being sent my way?
Outages for my site, making my content unavailable for legitimate users?
You have to agree that at one point “be used by LLM” would not be different from “be used by a user”.
Not at all. LLMs are not users.
It’s self-hosted and free.
If you want, or they charge for the hosted version. If they want to use a paid for version, then they can divert some of that revenue to me, the creator, because without creators, they would have no product.
How does that prohibit usage and processing of your info? That sounds like “I won’t be providing any comments on Lemmy website, if you want my opinion you can mail me at a@b.com”
That's a apples and oranges comparison, and you know it.
That will never block all of them. Your info will be used without your consent and you will not feel troubled from it. So you might not feel troubled if more things do the same.
Perplexity seems to be troubled by it.
What if I use my local hosted LLM? Anyway, the point is, selling text can’t work well, and you’re going to spend much more resources on collecting and summarizing data about how your text was used and how others benefited from it, in order to get compensation, than it worths.
If selling text can't work well, then why do LLM products insist on using my text, to sell it?
Also, it might be the case that some information is actually worthless when compared to a service provided by things like LLM, even though they use that worthless information in the process.
LLMs are a net negative, as far as costs go. They consume far more in resources than they provide in benefit. If my information was worthless without an LLM, it's worthless with an LLM, therefore, LLMs don't need to access it. Periodt.
The bottom line? Content creators get the first say in how their content is used, and consumed. You are not entitled to their labor, for free, and without condition.
LLM might be worse than those but Perplexity is certainly a lesser player in the field.
Its a good thing I don't just block Perplexity, but all of the LLMs.
And I wont comment on the rest of this, but lets consider another form of property: Real estate.
You own a plot of land. Should others be able to use it, however they feel, whenever they feel like? Or should you have a say in how it gets used?
If you feel like you should have exclusive say in how real estate you own is used and when and by whom, why is intellectual property any different? There must be value in using it, so what's wrong with revenues generated by that use being shared (At least) with the creator?
Last I checked, I'm not seeing rev shares from any of these LLMs that have certainly used my code and other content to train?
Yeah and the worst part is it doesn't fucking work for the one thing it's supposed to do.
The only thing it does is stop the stupidest low effort scrapers and forces the good ones to use a browser.
Recaptcha v2 does way more than check if the box was checked.
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gaining unauthorized access to a computer system
And my point is that defining "unauthorized" to include visitors using unauthorized tools/methods to access a publicly visible resource would be a policy disaster.
If I put a banner on my site that says "by visiting my site you agree not to modify the scripts or ads displayed on the site," does that make my visit with an ad blocker "unauthorized" under the CFAA? I think the answer should obviously be "no," and that the way to define "authorization" is whether the website puts up some kind of login/authentication mechanism to block or allow specific users, not to put a simple request to the visiting public to please respect the rules of the site.
To me, a robots.txt is more like a friendly request to unauthenticated visitors than it is a technical implementation of some kind of authentication mechanism.
Scraping isn't hacking. I agree with the Third Circuit and the EFF: If the website owner makes a resource available to visitors without authentication, then accessing those resources isn't a crime, even if the website owner didn't intend for site visitors to use that specific method.
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When sites put challenges like Anubis or other measures to authenticate that the viewer isn't a robot, and scrapers then employ measures to thwart that authentication (via spoofing or other means) I think that's a reasonable violation of the CFAA in spirit — especially since these mass scraping activities are getting attention for the damage they are causing to site operators (another factor in the CFAA, and one that would promote this to felony activity.)
The fact is these laws are already on the books, we may as well utilize them to shut down this objectively harmful activity AI scrapers are doing.
Do you think DoS/DDoS activities should be criminal?
If you're a site operator and the mass AI scraping is genuinely causing operational problems (not hard to imagine, I've seen what it does to my hosted repositories pages) should there be recourse? Especially if you're actively trying to prevent that activity (revoking consent in cookies, authorization captchas).
In general I think the idea of "your right to swing your fists ends at my face" applies reasonably well here — these AI scraping companies are giving lots of admins bloody noses and need to be held accountable.
I really am amenable to arguments wrt the right to an open web, but look at how many sites are hiding behind CF and other portals, or outright becoming hostile to any scraping at all; we're already seeing the rapid death of the ideal because of these malicious scrapers, and we should be using all available recourse to stop this bleeding.
How “open” a website is, is up to the owner, and that’s all.
As someone who registered this account on this platform in response to Reddit's API restrictions, it would be hypocritical of me to accept such a belief.
Well, until we abolish capitalism, that’s the state of things.
I can see that things are the way things are. Accepting it is a different matter.
Unless you feel like Nazis MUST be freely given access to everything too?
To me, the "access" that I am referring to (the interface with which you gain access to a service) and that "access" (your behavior once you have gained access to a service) are different topics. The same distinction can be made with the concern over DoS attacks mentioned earlier in the thread. The user's behavior of overwhelming a site's traffic is the root concern, not the interface that the user is connecting with.
to decide for what purpose it gets used for
Yeah, fuck everything about that. If I'm a site visitor I should be able to do what I want with the data you send me. If I bypass your ads, or use your words to write a newspaper article that you don't like, tough shit. Publishing information is choosing not to control what happens to the information after it leaves your control.
Don't like it? Make me sign an NDA. And even then, violating an NDA isn't a crime, much less a felony punishable by years of prison time.
Interpreting the CFAA to cover scraping is absurd and draconian.
Thats a crime yeah and if Alphabet co wants to sue you for $1.34 damages then they have that right
So yeah, I stand by my statement that anyone thinks this is a crime, or should be a crime, has a poor understanding of either the technology or the law. In this case, even mentioning Alphabet suing for damages means that you don't know the difference between criminal law and civil law.
press charges for the criminal act of intentional disruption of services
That's not a crime, and again reveals gaps in your knowledge on this topic.
you will get prison for DDoS in USA
Who said anything about DDoS? I'm using ad blockers and saving/caching/archiving websites with a single computer, and not causing damage. I'm just using the website in a way the owner doesn't like. That's not a crime, nor should it be.
press charges for the criminal act of intentional disruption of servicesThat’s not a crime, and again reveals gaps in your knowledge on this topic.
We did
You appear to have misread
just as we should have the right to sue them if their AI crawlers make our site unusable and plagiarize our work to the effect of thousands of dollars, or even press charges for the criminal act of intentional disruption of services.
YOU caused google lost ad revenue
GOOGLE's Crawlers have crippled sites
I've developed my own agent for assisting me with researching a topic I'm passionate about, and I ran into the exact same barrier: Cloudflare intercepts my request and is clearly checking if I'm a human using a web browser. (For my network requests, I've defined my own user agent.)
So I use that as a signal that the website doesn't want automated tools scraping their data. That's fine with me: my agent just tells me that there might be interesting content on the site and gives me a deep link. I can extract the data and carry on my research on my own.
I completely understand where Perplexity is coming from, but at scale, implementations like ~~this~~ Perplexity's are awful for the web.
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I hate to break it to you but not only does Cloudflare do this sort of thing, but so does Akamai, AWS, and virtually every other CDN provider out there. And far from being awful, it’s actually protecting the web.
We use Akamai where I work, and they inform us in real time when a request comes from a bot, and they further classify it as one of a dozen or so bots (search engine crawlers, analytics bots, advertising bots, social networks, AI bots, etc). It also informs us if it’s somebody impersonating a well known bot like Google, etc. So we can easily allow search engines to crawl our site while blocking AI bots, bots impersonating Google, and so on.
What I meant with "things like this are awful for the web," I meant that automation through AI is awful for the web. It takes away from the original content creators without any attribution and hits their bottom line.
My story was supposed to be one about responsible AI, but somehow I screwed that up in my summary.
This is not about training data, though.
Perplexity argues that Cloudflare is mischaracterizing AI Assistants as web crawlers, saying that they should not be subject to the same restrictions since they are user-initiated assistants.
Personally I think that claim is a decent one: user-initiated request should not be subject to robot limitations, and are not the source of DDOS attack to web sites.
I think the solution is quite clear, though: either make use of the user identity to walz through the blocks, or even make use of the user browser to do it. Once a captcha appears, let the user solve it.
Though technically making all this happen flawlessly is quite a big task.
Personally I think that claim is a decent one: user-initiated request should not be subject to robot limitations, and are not the source of DDOS attack to web sites.
They are one of the sources!
The AI scraping when a user enters a prompt is DDOSing sites in addition to the scraping for training data that is DDOSing sites. These shitty companies are repeatedly slamming the same sites over and over again in the least efficient way because they are not using the scraped data from training when they process a user prompt that does a web search.
Scraping once extensively and scraping a bit less but far more frequently have similar impacts.
When user enters a prompt, the backend may retrieve a handful a pages to serve that prompt. It won't retrieve all the pages of a site. Hardly different from a user using a search engine and clicking 5 topmost links into tabs. If that is not a DoS attack, then an agent doing the same isn't a DDoS attack.
Constructing the training material in the first place is a different matter, but if you're asking about fresh events or new APIs, the training data just doesn't cut it. The training, and subsequenctly the material retrieval, has been done a long time ago.
Uh, are they admitting they are trying to circumvent technological protections setup to restrict access to a system?
Isn’t that a literal computer crime?
It's insane that anyone would side with Cloudflare here. To this day I cant visit many websites like nexusmods just because I run Firefox on Linux. The Cloudflare turnstile just refreshes infinitely and has been for months now.
Cloudflare is the biggest cancer on the web, fucking burn it.
"Wrong with my setup" - thats not how internet works.
I'm based in south east asia and often work on the road so IP rating probably is the final crutch in my fingerprint score.
Either way this should be no way acceptible.
Linux and Firefox here. No problem at all with Cloudflare, despite having more or less as much privacy preserving add-on as possible. I even spoof my user agent to the latest Firefox ESR on Linux.
Something's may be wrong with your setup.
Same goes the other way. It's not because it doesn't work for you that it should go away.
That technology has its uses, and Cloudflare is probably aware that there are still some false positive, and probably is working on it as we write.
The decision is for the website owner to take, taking into consideration the advantages of filtering out a majority of bots and the disadvantages of loosing some legitimate traffic because of false positives. If you get Cloudflare challenge, chances are that he chosed that the former vastly outclass the later.
Now there are some self-hosted alternatives, like Anubis, but business clients prefer SaaS like Cloudflare to having to maintain their own software. Once again it is their choices and liberty to do so.
lmao imagine shilling for corporate Cloudflare like this. Also false positive vs false negative are fundamentally not equal.
Cloudflare is probably aware that there are still some false positive, and probably is working on it as we write.
The main issue with Cloudflare is that it's mostly bullshit. It does not report any stats to the admins on how many users were rejected or any false positive rates and happily put's everyone under "evil bot" umbrella. So people from low trust score environments like Linux or IPs from poorer countries are under significant disadvantage and left without a voice.
I'm literally a security dev working with Cloudflare anti-bot myself (not by choice). It's a useful tool for corporate but a really fucking bad one for the health of the web, much worse than any LLM agent or crawler, period.
So people from low trust score environments like Linux
Linux user here, Cloudflare hasn't blocked access to a single page for me unless I use a VPN, which then can trigger it.
I suspect a lot of it comes down to your ISP. Like the original commentor I also frequently can't pass CloudFlare turnstile when on Wifi, although refreshing the page a few times usually gets me through. Worst case on my phone's hotspot I can much more consistently pass. It's super annoying and combined with their recent DNS outage has totally ruined any respect I had for CloudFlare.
Interesting video on the subject: youtu.be/SasXJwyKkMI
It happened to me before until I did a Google search. It was my VPN web protection. It was too " over protective".
Check your security settings, antivirus and VPN
Perplexity argues that a platform’s inability to differentiate between helpful AI assistants and harmful bots causes misclassification of legitimate web traffic.
So, I assume Perplexity uses appropriate identifiable user-agent headers, to allow hosters to decide whether to serve them one way or another?
Except, it's not a live user hitting 10 sights all the same time, trying to crawl the entire site... Live users cannot do that.
That said, if my robots.txt forbids them from hitting my site, as a proxy, they obey that, right?
i really wish we wouldn't do those. feels too reddity.
but thanks.
The amount of people just reacting to the headline in the comments on these kinds of articles is always surprising.
Your browser acts as an agent too, you don’t manually visit every script link, image source and CSS file. Everyone has experienced how annoying it is to have your browser be targeted by Cloudflare.
There’s a pretty major difference between a human user loading a page and having it summarized and a bot that is scraping 1500 pages/second.
Cheering for Cloudflare to be the arbiter of what technologies are allowed is incredibly short sighted. They exist to provide their clients with services, including bot mitigation. But a user initiated operation isn’t the same as a bot.
Which is the point of the article and the article’s title.
It isn’t clear why OP had to alter the headline to bait the anti-ai crowd.
Cheering for Cloudflare to be the arbiter of what technologies are allowed is incredibly short sighted
Except, they don't. It's a toggle, available to users, and by default, allows Perplexity's scraping.
But a user initiated operation isn’t the same as a bot.
Oh fuck off with that AI company propaganda.
The AI companies already overwhelmed sites to get training data and are repeating their shitty scraping practices when users interact with their AI. It's the same fucking thing.
Web crawlers for search engines don't scrape pages every time a user searches like AI does. Both web crawlers and scrapers are bots, and how a human initiates their operation, scheduled or not, doesn't matter as much as the fact that they do things very differently and only one of the two respects robots.txt.
There’s no difference in server load between a user looking at a page and a user using an AI tool to summarize the page.
The AI companies already overwhelmed sites to get training data and are repeating their shitty scraping practices when users interact with their AI. It’s the same fucking thing.
You either didn’t read the article or are deliberately making bad faith arguments. The entire point of the article is that the traffic that they’re referring to is initiated by a user, just like when you type an address into your browser’s address bar.
This traffic, initiated by a user, creates the same server load as that same user loading the page in a browser.
Yes, mass scraping of web pages creates a bunch of server load. This was the case before AI was even a thing.
This situation is like Cloudflare presenting was a captcha in order to load each individual image, css or JavaScript asset into a web browser because bot traffic pretends to be a browser.
I don’t think it’s too hard to understand that a bot pretending to be a browser and a human operated browser are two completely different things and classifying them as the same (and captchaing them) would be a classification error.
This is exactly the same kind of error. Even if you personally believe that users using AI tools should be blocked, not everyone has the same opinion. If Cloudflare can’t distinguish between bot requests and human requests then their customers can’t opt out and allow their users to use AI tools even if they want to.
There’s no difference in server load between a user looking at a page and a user using an AI tool to summarize the page.
There is, in scale.
EDIT: It was supposed to say "loops", but I'm keeping it.
They do have a point though. It would be great to let per-prompt searches go through, but not mass scrapping
I believe a lot of websites don't want both though
I assume their script does some search engine stuff like query google or bing and then "scrap" the links they go on
Some selenium stuff
Helge Schneider – „The Klimperclown“ (2025)
Alles richtig gemacht! Was soll ich sonst schreiben, über den Geburtstagsfilm, den der SWR dem größten Mülheimer Genie der Gegenwart im Auftrag der ARD hat widmen lassen? Angesichts der Unmöglichkeit der gestellten Aufgabe, haben sie dort glücklicherweise kollektiv entschieden, den Künstler das Werk doch lieber selbst anfertigen zu lassen, bevor die Sendeanstalt sich der Peinlichkeit einer weiteren öffentlich-rechtlichen Hagiographie die dann doch nicht mehr als ein Recycling alter Talkshows und Sketche geworden wäre. (ARD, Neu!)
Helge Schneider - "The Klimperclown" (2025)
Alles richtig gemacht! Was soll ich sonst schreiben, über den Geburtstagsfilm, den der SWR dem größten Mülheimer Genie der Gegenwart im Auftrag der ARD hat widmen lassen? Angesichts der Unmöglichkeit der gestellten Aufgabe, haben sie dort glücklicher…NexxtPress
Materiali pragmatici (corsi, tutorial, etc.) per imparare a fare il reporting per il CSRD?
Provo a chiedere qui dove probabilmente molti di voi sono interessati all'argomento.
Siete a conoscenza di buone risorse, in Italiano o in Inglese, per imparare a riportare dati non finanziari secondo la direttiva UE CSRD per il reporting non-finanziario (incluso ambientale) in ambito EEA?
Sono alla ricerca di corsi, tutorial e altri materiali VERAMENTE informativi.
Cercando online ho solo trovato una pletora di articoli scritti con ChatGPT che non vanno a parare da nessuna parte.
Hiding secret codes in light protects against fake videos
Hiding secret codes in light protects against fake videos | Cornell Chronicle
A team of Cornell computer science researchers has developed a way to “watermark” light in videos, which they can use to detect if video is fake or has been manipulated, another potential tool in the fight against misinformation.Cornell Chronicle
Intel Outside: Hacking every Intel employee and various internal websites
Intel Outside: Hacking every Intel employee and various internal websites
Hardcoded credentials, pointless encryption, and generous APIs exposed details of every employee and made it possible to break into internal websites.Eaton (eaton-works.com)
Technos Media: Your Gateway to Innovation and Insights
Queensland premier rules out changes to coal royalty scheme despite pressure from mining industry
Queensland premier rules out changes to coal royalty scheme despite pressure from mining industry
David Crisafulli says LNP ‘not touching’ policy charging rates among world’s highest, as conservationists rubbish industry claims levy causing downturnAndrew Messenger (The Guardian)
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Dum la ĵusa IJK en Indonezio multaj kongresanoj manifestaciis kontraŭ ”genocido en Palestino” kaj alvokis al TEJO aliĝi al la kondamno. Oni anoncis, ke la sekva IJK okazos en Katalunio. La eksigita prezidanto sensukcese provis refoje iĝi komitatano. La komitato eĉ ne donis al li parolrajton dum la kunsido. Multaj eŭropanoj spertis stomakproblemojn kaj oni ofte aŭdis la anglan, Tyron Surmon rakontas en sia raporto.
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General interest mega-boards and forum sustainability
I'm away from my desk for the next few days and so I'll likely be posting more open ended discussion questions.
Recently I've been thinking more about the decline of forums of yesteryear and how hosting a forum has always been rather niche.
That got me thinking about how one of Reddit's "killer features" was that just anybody could create a subreddit. The same could be said about Facebook groups as well.
You don't get that with forums, only the admin can create categories/forums, and by extension that usually limited the rise of general interest boards, and more towards niche topic-focused boards. It also meant that basically every board had a "general discussion" board or "random" board.
Would there be interest in NodeBB supporting something like this... Basically, the ability for anyone to set up a category and instantly moderate it, and build your own sub community inside a community? Does this ruin the magic of forums?
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OMG yes? This is how my favourite network ever, Ravelry, wound up happening.
🥰😍🥰😻🧡
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Geez I gotta find a way to demo this to Fedi people.
So, Ravelry never meant to be a social site AFAIK. They had a handful of "Forums" that were to be online help oriented, dialogue with either the site's developers, or their contracted or volunteer knitting & yarn & pattern experts. Then they added "groups" which included a forum, and some Pages (static info for the Group), few other things AND IT WENT NUTS.
And it has somehow remained the most civilized social network ever.
There's no "main" vs. "sub", other than by default all users join (and can leave) the "Big 6" official Ravelry forums.
Groups are all subject to Ravelry's TOS but can be created by anyone, any topic. There are lots of abandoned or inactive ones, and they could probably do a clean up (but also probably ... don't need to bother?)
Ravelry users belong to as many groups as they want to bother with, under one ID.
It's a unique site. Even if there was no emulating it, it's a case study.
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johannab@cosocial.ca that's really interesting, and bears further study 🙂
I love hearing stories about community building that happens against all odds!
yes yes yes yes!
Years ago when i first looked at NodeBB, I was thinking about it for a discussion-focused social network (kind of like the old tribe.net, or Facebook/Myspace groups), and this was a key area where forum software in general didn't meet my needs -- and it wasn't obvious how to extend it. So I rolled my own as a prototype and it's stayed as a prototype for a dozen years because trying to do a full-fledged implementation that's maintainable and scalable requires implementing a forum system, decidedly non-trivial.
Re: General interest mega-boards and forum sustainability
jdp23@neuromatch.social well that's for sure... every once in awhile I see a company or org roll their own forums because "how hard could it be"
:smirk: I had that misconception once... A decade ago.
Thanks for the input!
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esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club NodeBB publishes the ActivityStreams "Article" type, which Mastodon current doesn't have good support for.
One way around it is to send summary
with the full text... but then some other software thinks it's an uber long content warning. There's no winning :sweat_smile:
I think this should be reported to GoToSocial devs, because they can use name
as content warning for Article
objects.
Maybe there is already issue for that, but I couldn't find it
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silverpill@mitra.social esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club It got closed 😅
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[bug] `as:summary` is used as content warning descriptor for object types other than `as:Note`
### Describe the bug with a clear and concise description of what the bug is. * Mastodon in the short-to-medium term is considering broader support for non-`Note` object types, as part of [FEP-b2b8](https://w3id.Codeberg.org
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esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club respectfully there is no other way to get an Article object ingested by Mastodon without being munged without shoving it all into summary
.
Summary should contain a truncation probably, but other than that it's GtS that is "doing it wrong".
Btw, other threadiverse platforms, like lemmy and py-fed, don't have this issue on my end, where I could follow them because they support authorised fetch that is. I wonder how do they do it? or...hmm, maybe they don't work properly on mastodon while they do on gts?
Re: General interest mega-boards and forum sustainability
esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club I'm sorry I got a bit salty about it.
Basically if Mastodon were not in the equation we would send an Article with a name
and no summary
at all. Threadiverse implementations handle that perfectly already.
GtS actually did implement the Mastodon behaviour! Content warnings were their thing (afaik), done by adopting summary
as the CW. GtS followed suit but applied this to all objects, not just notes. So in this case GtS went a bit further is all.
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esoteric_programmer@social.stealthy.club Mastodon would show the title and URL, and the content would be excised out.
Which I suppose is so fine insofar that sometimes long form content is best read on the originating site, but end users want their content read natively on Mastodon 🙂
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@julian So in other words, if an Article-type object has a summary, Mastodon discards the title, shows the summary and links to the original, and if it doesn't have a summary, Mastodon shows the title and links to the original?
Its "traditional" behaviour since ca. 2017 was that it either showed the title and the link or, in the absence of a title, only the link with zero context, and when there was a summary, it used the summary as a content warning.
I'm still not sure whether Mastodon is limited by all interfaces available for it only being geared towards old-school plain-text microblogging and incapable of handling fully formatted HTML content, or rather by the devs' stubborn unwillingness to let anything in that's too much not old-school plain-text microblogging.
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jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu Mastodon shows the title, summary, and adds a link.
It's as good as it'll get and quite a ways from where it used to be.
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This is an excellent idea, as demonstrated by the fact that many self-created communities (≈categories) on Lemmy have achieved significant global success. However, Lemmy's implementation is unsatisfactory and needs to be adjusted. I am the administrator of a Lemmy instance as well as a NodeBB instance, and I must admit that at the height of Lemmy's development, we never allowed autonomous community creation. This was due to some issues that arose with mastodon when homonymous communities and users existed. It was also because it was impossible to implement an approval process or ensure that the quality of the communities met the instance's standards. For this reason, the process for creating communities by users consisted of a request from the registered user and a creation reserved for administrators.
What I would like to see in NodeBB is the ability to create communities, but keep them in a sort of "limbo," a "section" where new communities remain until they reach acceptable quality levels for the instance's standards.
This is in addition to the entire user credit system, which I imagine could also be set up to achieve a suitable score for building a community.
Perhaps I'm asking too much, but NodeBB's development has been so impressive so far that I wouldn't be surprised if you could implement a feature like this.
L'anguilla che si annida nel dirupo e mostra i denti per assomigliare a un vecchio lupo - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
L'anguilla che si annida nel dirupo e mostra i denti per assomigliare a un vecchio lupo - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Pareidolia è l’umana condizione psicologica, presente in ogni singolo rappresentante della specie, che induce gli osservatori di uno spazio vuoto ad individuare in esso la forma riconoscibile di un volto.Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
Swollen battery
I found an old iPhone in a drawer this morning with other old iPhones (some of which can be salvaged) and this one was so swollen that it popped the screen off. Definitely a fire hazard I hadn’t thought of as much.
Definitely recycle any lithium battery showing signs of swelling as they have a risk of exploding I think.
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Understanding the Dangers of Lithium Batteries: Risks, Causes, and Safe Handling
Explore the hidden dangers of lithium batteries, including thermal runaway, electrical and thermal overloads, and mechanical damage. Learn essential safety practices for storage and handling.Lithi+ (LithiPlus)
Thoughts on HOPE_16
I’m on the train back to Montreal from New York, where I attended HOPE_16 over the weekend. I wanted to capture some thoughts while they were fresh, even though they might not be fully formed.
HOPE (Hackers On Planet Earth) is a technology and information security conference sponsored by 2600 Magazine. The SWF had two points of presence at the event this year: I gave an hour-long talk about the Fediverse which was streamed live. We also hosted the Fediverse Village, which turned out to be mostly a booth in the non-profits area of the vendors floor.
We had people streaming by all day long Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. I had thought the Village was going to be more like a hang-out room, so I was caught off guard on prep, but I put out all the ActivityPub and Social Web Foundation stickers I had, covers for the ActivityPub book, and a stack of CoSocial.ca stickers to boot. But there was a definite stone soup aspect to the village area: people brought by schwag for Fediverse software like WriteFreely, instances like GardenState.social and Masto.nyc, and projects like DWeb.
I’d hoped to have more structured discussions, including a meetup for Fediverse governance and a hackathon. But it turned out to be a lot more loosey-goosey than I expected, and most of the weekend was spent talking to other Fediverse fans, and helping people who came up to the booth to ask about the Fediverse.
I think I expected because of the level of technical expertise that was shown at the event that we’d be speaking to only true believers. But there were many people there who hadn’t heard of the Fediverse, and who were excited to try it out. One thing that struck me that was an advantage for these people over commercial social networks was the option to get out from under the “real names” policies of many platforms. It’s hard to remember that the alternative to the Fediverse that most people are familiar with are services that require a real-looking legal name to be used, and force you to send a scan of a government ID if they’re at all suspicious.
The other thing that struck me was how many people came to the booth saying that they’d registered for a Mastodon account at some point, and were really excited to get it reactivated, but forgot which server it was on and didn’t want to register for another. I think that’s a real pain point for a lot of people — and one we should do better at solving.
I plan to come back to HOPE next year. I’d love to have more schwag for Fediverse software, services, and platforms. I’d like to have a way to get people signed up and onboarded for the Fediverse right at the table. And I’d like to have some more formal get-together events. There are spaces to meet at HOPE if you know how to set it up — I’m going to try to use them better next time.
Thanks to everyone who came to the Fediverse Village, my talk, or just talked to me around the HOPE event. I was energised by the people and the technology that was happening, and I look forward to engaging again.
Into the Fediverse HOPE_16
One third of Americans say that social media has negatively impacted their mental health. Almost two thirds say that social media has been bad for democracy. But the majority of us still use social media on a daily basis.schedule.hope.net
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Handling Mouse and Touchscreen Input Using Ebitengine (Tutorial)
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Sonolus gioconlus musicante super figo ganzo clonante tutti gli altri e afancul!!!
Stasera, per puro caso dell’espressione della consueta disperazione, il catgaming ha preso una piega inaspettata, ma graditissima. Infatti, mi era venuto un po’ a caso in mente di cercare se esistesse qualcosa tipo un server privato per VOEZ, che è quel giochino musicale che ho sul tablet per marcire con lo spirito mentre tengo tuttavia […]
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Sonolus gioconlus musicante super figo ganzo clonante tutti gli altri e afancul!!!
Stasera, per puro caso dell’espressione della consueta disperazione, il catgaming ha preso una piega inaspettata, ma graditissima. Infatti, mi era venuto un po’ a caso in mente di cercare se esistesse qualcosa tipo un server privato per VOEZ, che è quel giochino musicale che ho sul tablet per marcire con lo spirito mentre tengo tuttavia la mente e le manine allenate… e ho trovato decisamente di molto meglio; classica “cercavo rame e ho trovato oro” situazione. 😳👍Per chi non lo avesse presente, non c’è molto da dire… è di circa 10 anni fa, ed è bellino: tutta l’estetica è di quel pulito-sognante stile anime, le canzoni sono varie pazzerelle (niente roba normie che va dallo zzz al bleh, insomma), ed è in generale uno dei pochi che mi piace. Ha anche una versione per Switch che, a differenza di quella mobile, costa un tot di base ma poi non ha acquisti in-app, ha tutto già sbloccato di suo, e funziona offline… ma, ovviamente, se sono a casa voglio usare il tablet da 10 pollici anziché il merdoso di Nintendo, e se sono in giro non voglio portarmi un secondo rettangolo di 6 pollici + bordi enormi oltre al telefono, per cui lasciamo stare. 🥱
Non so se ho allora trovato davvero cosa cercavo, perché dalle pareti del web mi sono spuntati diversi APK MOD, che non ho (ancora?) provato… ma ho trovato 1 cosa più pazza: un giochino di ritmo chiamato Sonolus, fatto per essere modulare, avendo un motore di base che può essere esteso con delle API per ricreare virtualmente qualunque rhythm game al di sopra di questa singola infrastruttura comune… oh, tanta roba in teoria. E nella pratica, che consiste in un APK di appena ~100 MB, il miraggio si conferma realtà: questo pezzo di pseudo-software, aggiunto l’URL del server che fornisce i dati per far comportare il gioco come un clone di VOEZ, è effettivamente tanto gustoso quanto pareva da lontano!!! 😻
La cosa bella di questo, quindi, è che non solo ho a (quasi) tutti gli effetti VOEZ ma con tutte le sue canzoni aggratis (+ custom, credo, senza necessitare di APK strani)… ma ho praticamente VOEZ che funziona senza Google Play Services, anziché freezarsi all’avvio senza spiegazioni, quindi posso tornare ad averlo pure sullo Ximifonino… e questo è davvero l’inizio della megafine, cazzo che bello. La fregatura sta nel fatto che ad ogni fine canzone esce una pubblicità, e gli acquisti in-app in realtà ci sono sotto forma di abbonamenti per togliere le pubblicità, o personalizzazioni del profilo online… roba di cui se ne fa a meno (anche perché le pubblicità
basta bloccarle a livello di OS, mafinché sono solo statiche e non video sono accettabili, non danno fastidio). 🤗Non ho ancora provato i vari motori di gioco disponibili a parte il clone di VOEZ, perché sono una marea… e quello, a dire il vero, comunque non è una ricreazione perfetta: sul look ci siamo, e anche sull’hear, ma sul feel non tanto, visto che la gestione degli input è parecchio più severa, e il margine di errore è abbastanza più basso da far si che, una canzone che sul VOEZ originale riesco tranquillamente a fare a difficoltà massima, qui mi esce un mezzo schifo persino a livello intermedio (e il video qui fa ampia mostra dei miei problemi di skill, in questo senso)… però, visti i vantaggi, dovrò abituarmici; quantomeno, se non sul tablet, per giocarci sul telefono, dove l’alternativa sarebbe il niente. 🔥
Assurdo che NON lagghi sullo Xiaomi con tanto di registrazione schermo attiva, ma, purtroppo, ha anche dei difetti… tipo che il core non è open-source — ma tutto ciò che ci gira attorno, inclusi i plugin che clonano i vari giochini, pare proprio di si — e che l’APK ha librerie solo per ARMv7 e ARMv8, niente x86+64 — ma poteva andare molto peggio: poteva essere solo ARM 64 bit; e invece, con doppie lib + supporto ad Android Nougat, si installa anche sul telefono di un pesce palla (non ironicamente). C’è anche per iOS,ma di quello non ce ne fotte; dispiace non ci sia una build Windows e/o HTML5, piuttosto, ma il gioco è appena alla v1.0.0, quindi sarà questione di tempo. Per me, già il fatto che il gioco parta senza connessione Internet e faccia tranquillamente giocare i livelli salvati, è sufficiente a godere… 👾
- Sonolus: memos.octt.eu.org/m/N6Tjx58WZN…
- Sonolus VOEZ: memos.octt.eu.org/m/ZUmx6p2trC… (devo ancora capire, per mia pace mentale, come hostare un mio clone del server con tutti i dati, che nella repo git non ci sono… però top.)
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Sonolus, Next Generation Rhythm Game: + https://sonolus.com + https://wiki.sonolus.com + https://github.com/Sonolus + https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.FosFenes.Sonolus + https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sonolus/id1637055220Memos
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