The overlooked global risk of the AI precariat
- With AI disrupting employment, millions could face the loss of purpose, identity and social belonging.
- The psychological toll of sudden AI-driven unemployment remains largely unaddressed.
- If we want AI to be remembered as a tool for human flourishing, rather than mass alienation, we must start planning, not just for the jobs AI will create – but for the dreams it might erase.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/08/the-overlooked-global-risk-of-the-ai-precariat/
7 years later, Valve's Proton has been an incredible game-changer for Linux
7 years later, Valve's Proton has been an incredible game-changer for Linux
It has been 7 years since Valve revealed Proton, their compatibility layer to run Windows games on Linux systems. What an incredible time it has been.Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
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‘You never want to leave:’ TikTok employees raise concerns about the app’s impact on teens in newly unsealed video
Current and former TikTok employees have raised concerns internally about how the app’s popular algorithm could hurt young users’ mental health, a newly unsealed video presented as evidence in a North Carolina lawsuit against the company shows.
A new diamond- based magnetic field sensor could be used to better find tumours through tracing magnetic fluid injected in the body.
The diamond sensor works by detecting magnetic tracer fluid (iron oxide nanoparticles) that is introduced into the patient during or before breast cancer surgery. The tracer fluid is injected into the tumour and then travels to the lymph nodes alongside metastasized cancer cells. A magnetic field sensor based on a diamond can then locate the tracer fluid and pinpoint the lymph nodes to be surgically removed to stop the cancer spread.Its compact design is achieved by using a tiny diamond (0.5 mm3) and a small permanent magnet that is attached to the probe head. This eliminates the need for bulky electronics allowing for a handheld versatile tool.
Alleged Pirate Site Operator Arrested, Family Crowdfunds "David vs. Goliath" Defense
Alleged Pirate Site Operator Arrested, Family Crowdfunds "David vs. Goliath" Defense * TorrentFreak
The alleged operator of sports streaming service 'Al Ángulo TV' has been arrested in Argentina following a criminal investigation.Ernesto Van der Sar (TF Publishing)
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One UI 8 New Features: A First Look at Samsung's Big Update | Tygo Cover
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"Imagine your phone automatically silencing itself when it detects you’re in a meeting based on your calendar, or suggesting a playlist when you connect your Galaxy Buds. Bixby is rumored to become more of a true personal assistant that anticipates your needs."
I'm imagining it and it's horrible. For this to be useful it would have to be so incredibly perfect. The frustration factor on this would be through the roof. Just give me a silence button on my calender that I can program if I want to. Even that is a little frivolous but it's simple and reliable at least.
When is someone going to just break and make a fast, small, simple, reliable phone that doesn't get bogged down in crap?
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AI giants race to scoop up elusive real-world data: OpenAI, Google, and Perplexity create partnerships and free offers for a steady stream of consumer data that can’t be scraped from the internet.
- OpenAI, Google, and Perplexity are striking global partnerships to secure real-world data sets that can’t be scraped from the internet.
- Experts warn of privacy risks and call for stronger oversight to protect privacy and ensure fairness.
AI giants race to secure user data via global deals - Rest of World
OpenAI, Google, and Perplexity are offering freebies and partnerships to capture user data that can’t be scraped online, raising privacy and fairness concernsItika Sharma Punit (Rest of World)
terapia linuxgirl con i pezzi mancanti che il merdifero sistema non aiuta a trovare…
Alla fine, dopo altri ormai incontabili mesi di casino, è arrivato il momento in cui mi hanno dato le medicine “ragazza gatto utente Linux“… e sarà forse questo il megainizio magico, che temevamo non potesse essere neppure affatto raggiunto, poiché preceduto dalla megafine??? 🤯😳😻 Beh, qui rischia di essere difficile a dirsi, perché quando di […]
Microsoft employee protests lead to 18 arrests as company reviews its work with Israel's military
Police officers arrested 18 people at worker-led protests at Microsoft headquarters Wednesday as the tech company promises an “urgent” review of the Israeli military’s use of its technology during the ongoing ~~war~~ genocide in Gaza.
Two consecutive days of protest at the Microsoft campus in Redmond, Washington called for the tech giant to immediately cut its business ties with Israel.
https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-azure-gaza-israel-protests-49a0dd5905a1cf16eb3e19a98ca17d50
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The problem is, there's a lot of compartmentalization
The people working on the Israel projects are probably going to be on board with what they're doing, so I guess you could sabotage Windows a little?
I mean honestly, with how many bugs are coming up in all the windows products, maybe this is happening. I figured it was just years of layoffs, but maybe some of it is intentional
The monopolistic profit model means that maintenance and other "non-value-added activities" are often reduced to a minimum.
I mean honestly, with how many bugs are coming up in all the windows products, maybe this is happening.
It might be functionally impossible to tell the difference from the outside.
Authenticate thyself: Data has created a new and paradoxical social order: the promise of emancipation is made possible by classifying everything
In the mid-1950s, IBM approached Jacques Perret, a Classics professor at the Sorbonne, with a question. They were about to sell a new kind of computer in France, the Model 650. What, they asked, should it be called? Not the model itself, but rather the whole class of device it represented. An obvious option was calculateur, the literal French translation of ‘computer’. But IBM wanted something that conveyed more than arithmetic. ‘Dear Sir,’ Perret replied,
How about ordinateur? It is a correctly formed word, which is even found in Littré [the standard 19th-century French dictionary] as an adjective designating God who brings order to the world. A word of this kind has the advantage of easily supplying a verb, ordiner … (My translation.)Besides, Perret added, the implicitly feminine connotation already present in IBM’s marketing materials could carry over to the new term:
Re-reading the brochures you gave me, I see that several of your devices are designated by female agent names (trieuse, tabulatrice). Ordinatrice would be perfectly possible … My preference would be to go for l’ordinatrice electronique.The female reference was not entirely inappropriate. Up until the mid-20th century, the term ‘computer’ meant an office clerk, usually a woman, performing calculations by hand, or with the help of a mechanical device. IBM’s new machine, however, was intended for general information-processing. The masculine and godlike version prevailed. The term soon entered common language. Every computer in France became known as an ordinateur.
The sovereign individual and the paradox of the digital age | Aeon Essays
Data has created a new and paradoxical social order: the promise of emancipation is made possible by classifying everythingMarion Fourcade (Aeon Magazine)
Harvard dropouts to launch ‘always on’ AI smart glasses that listen and record every conversation
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Two former Harvard students are launching a pair of “always-on” AI-powered smart glasses that listen to, record, and transcribe every conversation and then display relevant information to the wearer in real time.“Our goal is to make glasses that make you super intelligent the moment you put them on,” said AnhPhu Nguyen, co-founder of Halo, a startup that’s developing the technology.
Or, as his co-founder Caine Ardayfio put it, the glasses “give you infinite memory.”
“The AI listens to every conversation you have and uses that knowledge to tell you what to say … kinda like IRL Cluely,” Ardayfio told TechCrunch, referring to the startup that claims to help users “cheat” on everything from job interviews to school exams.
Cluely, a startup that helps 'cheat on everything,' raises $15M from a16z | TechCrunch
Cluely's new funding comes roughly two months after it raised $5.3 million in seed funding co-led by Abstract Ventures and Susa Ventures.Marina Temkin (TechCrunch)
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The Looming Social Crisis of AI Friends and Chatbot Therapists
The Looming Social Crisis of AI Friends and Chatbot Therapists
"I can imagine a future where a lot of people really trust ChatGPT’s advice for their most important decisions," Sam Altman said. "Although that could be great, it makes me uneasy." Me too, Sam.Derek Thompson
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I like Tiktok for funny and helpful videos, but I deleted it because I realized the algorithm was controlling too much of what I was seeing. I realized it was starting to shape my opinions and split.
Their algorithm is a drug and spreads propaganda just like Facebook. Stay far away.
I recently became active again on LinkedIn because gestures generally at all of the layoffs and even they have short form videos.
Who asked for that?!
10 piattaforme alternative a Booking e AirBnB per un turismo più etico
10 piattaforme alternative a Booking e AirBNB per un turismo più etico - L'INDIPENDENTE
Andreste mai in vacanza prenotando il vostro alloggio in strutture che, mentre scegliete il vostro soggiorno al mare o in montagna, propongono case vacanze e appartamenti nei territori occupati illegalmente in Cisgiordania e Gerusalemme Est? Se la ri…Mario Catania (Lindipendente.online)
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Questo vale di sicuro per Airbnb, dove ormai trovi non solo affittacamere occasionali ma anche agriturismi o affittacamere veri.
Sinceramente booking per me non esiste neanche.
Di conseguenza il mio suggerimento è usare Airbnb per avere un minimo di garanzie e qualche recensione e poi cercare il posto direttamente. Airbnb guadagna lo stesso e sta al gioco senza problemi, booking è più old-style stile tassisti ormai
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At the very least my most played game ever isn't supported and never will be.
So if I go full linux i will just have to stop playing a game I played for almost 10 years and a game that was owned by a small game dev studio when I started playing. It sucks. I couldn't guess some Epic games would buy this game and then officially make sure it won't run on linux.
it's gotta be League right?
Edit: whoops I read the comment incorrectly it most definitely is not
It's Rocket League.
It worked for a long time on linux. But then Epic Games came in and made very sure it couldn't be played competitively anymore.
At least I think you cannot play online anymore on linux.
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I think It may actually work indeed !
I'm gonna retry it but initially it's this post that made me think it was over for RL on linux :
epicgames.com/help/en-US/c-Cat…
I will definitely try again in case it's just Epic Games saying it won't work but proton saving the day.
Thanks for the correction I truly thought Epic had killed linux RL via their anticheat.
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Oh heck yeah!
Yeah, I was running it through Heroic launcher and it worked great.
Hope it still works for you, what a nice win that would be!
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Thanks for the feedback. I genuinely thought that since Epic Games was saying that online matchmaking wouldn't work it was hopeless.
But I will be really pumped if I don't have to reboot on Windows to play RL.
I tried it a few months ago and couldn't get it to work. May just have been me, but even if I, a semi tech literate person has problems with it, good fucking luck getting the broader population to use Linux. It is simply too hard for regular people to do stuff, that just works with windows.
Sure windows has it's issues, but they're issues 95% of people will never encounter. Instead they'll have an easy time installing software, and don't have to look at a database to figure out wether or not they can even play a game.
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The only games that won't run are Battlefield and Cod, LoL, etc
And to be honest, if you play those games, you are most likely a machorchist anyway.
The only games that won't run are Battlefield and Cod, LoL, etc
Oh really ?
That's a bold statement.
Also I suppose it's my own fault for wanting to play competitive multiplayer games online on Linux ?
It's impressive because you probably hope for the same thing as me for gaming on linux but you are toxic as fuck and only think your type of games should be supported.
We are supposed to be in the same team but you shit on the games I want to play instead.
Honestly fuck you.
Edit : My god I shouldn't have watched your comment history.
That AOSP comment my dude...
my own fault for wanting to play competitive multiplayer games online on Linux ?
Yes, that's what I said. If you are able to play competitive stuff nowadays, your nerves should be able to put up with the pain of dual booting.
But dual booting still means using Windows even if it is just for gaming. Which is exactly what I fucking do.
I use W10 and PopOS as dual boot and play all I can on linux.
I even just setup everything for secure boot to work properly on both OS.
But no I'm such a masochist for wanting to just continue ln playing a game like rocket league with my friends online. What a madman.
And it's also my fault if some big dev studios bought a game I liked and then said that linux players have too many cheaters and that they block this platform.
And then there is you on the sideline, all sneakering and enjoying the fact that another cannot play the games they love on their linux platform. So yeah I repeat it, fuck you for hoping the games I play dont get support.
World's first 'thermodynamic computing chip' reaches tape out
Noise-Driven Computing: A Paradigm Shift
A new era in computing is here! Thermodynamic computing, akin to probabilistic computing, harnesses noise for efficient problem-solving. Imagine a world where physics-based ASICs tailor solutions to specific needs.Dina Genkina (IEEE Spectrum)
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Man I would love to have access to chips like this.
Probabilistic computing would really benefit from this, I would invest in the company producing these.
Germany's Renk could relocate production to avoid weapons restrictions to Israel
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/46214413
"If we cannot produce them (hundreds of transissions) in Germany, we will relocate these volumes to a different plant, for example to the U.S.. This might take maybe 8 to 10 months, but, if there's no move forward, we will do it because we have this business," Sagel said.
UK government suggests deleting files to save water
Sorta like how corporations pushed recycling onto the public to deflect from their own culpability for pollution. Why would we regulate the companies building huge data centers when we can get average people to absorb the cost? It's not like they're making obscene profits while laying off untold thousands.
I mean, if that was the case, sure, let's have them pay to clean up the waste they generate. But have you seen NVIDIA, Microsoft, or Meta lately? These companies are barely staying in business. Their CEOs can hardly afford to ride the bus to work. Let's cut them a break.
TLDR: It's your fault the earth is dying because you horde emails.
UK government suggests deleting files to save water
UK officials recommended deleting old emails and photos to conserve water during drought.Justine Calma (The Verge)
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...because you horde emails.
I've never large-group-of-peopled my emails but have been known to hoard them.
L'ingegnoso meccanismo della maschera mutevole nell'opera teatrale di Sichuan - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
L'ingegnoso meccanismo della maschera mutevole nell'opera teatrale di Sichuan - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Nell’affollato teatro tradizionale di Chengdu, un importante evento storico viene presentato al pubblico, enfatizzando le capacità di un personaggio che sfuma nella leggenda.Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
No country for calls. Russian censorship agency confirms throttling voice calls on WhatsApp and Telegram to “fight crime”
No country for calls. Russian censorship agency confirms throttling voice calls on WhatsApp and Telegram to “fight crime”
Roskomnadzor, Russia’s state censorship agency, has officially confirmed it is restricting voice calls on the “foreign” messaging applications WhatsApp and Telegram, a move it clai...Mediazona
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Real criminal organizations will know that proprietary software is less secure than open-source stuff.
A proper criminal should use Signal or another open-source e2ee messenger, and so should you.
(Signal is blocked in Russia)
There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)
Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It's not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.
Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars
Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it's unhealthy.
It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it's one of many.
... Nobody mentioned obesity but we're talking about body weight... I mean, it's on topic, y'know.
And while body weight is not the only standard, it is a good indication of health. If you're twice overweight, you will die sooner and likely in a not so comfortable way. Handhaving that away with "well, it's one thing but there are others too" feels a bit disingenuous.
Yeah, there are loads of ways to die but this one is very preventable
I've read that American food is particularly bad, and you are right, but the factor contributing most is the metabolism with which you are born, other things important are levels of stress, ability to sleep well.
Exercise is important, yes. Eating right is as well. Just keep in mind that some things are outside your control, and if you think your health is your own achievement, that might not be entirely correct.
Eh, no
The factor that matters most isn't your metabolism. If that were true we'd have sever overweight issues since thousands of years but we haven't. The overweight pandemic is caused by too much food, period.
Want to lose weight? Whatever your metabolism is, eat less, eat healthier. It's that simple.
Yeah, exercise a lot, that's healthy and needed. It won't make you think though unless you really exercise a lot (3+ hours a day, every day)
Easiest way is to just eat less. Eat smaller portions, stop eating processed foods, cut your sugar intake.
There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you're interested
There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you’re interested
Interested.
How will the UK Safety Act affect services like Matrix?
As Matrix is UK based, meaning they're even more exposed than most services?
From the article:
Meeting and beating our obligations under the Online Safety ActWe’re based in the UK, and we’ve engaged productively with the Online Safety Act since its conception.
Building a Safer Matrix
Matrix, the open protocol for secure decentralised communicationsJim Mackenzie, VP Trust & Safety — The Matrix.org Foundation (matrix.org)
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UK government suggests deleting files to save water
UK government suggests deleting files to save water
UK officials recommended deleting old emails and photos to conserve water during drought.Justine Calma (The Verge)
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White House says Trump-Putin meeting is a 'listening exercise'
'listening exercise'
Tell me your president is 5y old without tell me your president is 5y old
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Putin barks out orders, Trump listens (to the extent he's capable).
But as for "exercise," well, Trump doesn't believe in that.
Cats develop dementia in a similar way to humans
Cats develop dementia in a similar way to humans with Alzheimer's disease, leading to hopes of a breakthrough in research, according to scientists.Experts at the University of Edinburgh carried out a post-mortem brain examination on 25 cats which had symptoms of dementia in life, including confusion, sleep disruption and an increase in vocalisation.
The team believe the discovery in cats could help them get a clearer understanding of the process, offering a valuable model for studying dementia in people.
The study, funded by Wellcome and the UK Dementia Research Institute, is published in the European Journal of Neuroscience, and included scientists from the Universities of Edinburgh and California, UK Dementia Research Institute and Scottish Brain Sciences.
Cats develop dementia in a similar way to humans
Scientists in Edinburgh believe the discovery could help their research into new treatments for Alzheimer's.Calum Watson (BBC News)
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Who were the Al Jazeera journalists killed by Israel in Gaza?
Five Al Jazeera journalists were killed by an Israeli strike in Gaza City on Sunday - among them 28-year-old correspondent Anas al-Sharif, who had reported prominently on the war since its outset.
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The targeted attack on a tent used by journalists has drawn strong international condemnation including from the UN, Qatar where Al Jazeera is based, and media freedom groups.
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Israel had previously accused Sharif of being a member of Hamas's military wing - something he and his employer strongly denied.
Reporters Without Borders (RSF), a media freedom group, said the allegations against him were "baseless" and called on the international community to intervene.
"Without strong action from the international community to stop the Israeli army... we're likely to witness more such extrajudicial mur
Who were the Al Jazeera journalists killed by Israel in Gaza?
Prominent reporter Anas al-Sharif and six other journalists were killed when Israel targeted a tent used by media, the broadcaster said.Alys Davies (BBC News)
This article is so terribly tepid.
How can journalists write about the persecution of their calling so bloodlessly?
These people were more than innocent: they were so-gooders of the kind we all claim to support. They were not only supposed to be protected not only as noncombatants, but especially guarded by their attendance to a sacred mission. They, like aid workers and doctors and nurses and any care giver or person seeking to provide justice is a designated target when the goal of a military operation is extermination.
Has the BBC written an editorial confirming this?
I wanted to just add this article I just came across:
apnews.com/article/jazeera-gaz…
I think this captures exactly what I was describing. And I don't think it's a polemic or opinion piece, I think it's just better journalism.
I agree with you. I think that what most people think of as "objectivity" isn't a thing that exists in reality, but as an ideal that we can strive towards. In practice, there is no neutral journalism — especially in this topic, my instinct is to be extra cautious of pieces that appear objective at first glance.
The piece you shared is a good example of how the bias in reporting can be found both in the micro-level prose, and the macro level framing of the piece (in this case, the macro framing being that the killing of journalists sets a scary precedent).
I think you're partially right. It was a visceral reaction, but it's true that they have to keep the house style.
I disagree that I'm reading "too much polemic instead of real journalism". I think journalism is in crisis, and that the pursuit of "neutrality" in a post-truth era has severely weakened the fourth estate when it should be armed to defend its existence and fundamental values.
First, it's a myth that news is impartial. Conventional news absolutely has a system of values: it's inherently pro-truth, pro-freedom of thought, and democratic. Assassinating journalists out in the open and decreeing that they're legitimate targets is a direct attack on fundamental principles of journalism and free society. Journalism does not need to be neutral on whether assassinating journalists is wrong to retain their legitimacy.
Sadly, these institutions are not experienced or practiced at navigating the challenge of addressing this kind of story. The real story here is that because the practice of journalism undermines what the ruling coalition considers to be in the national interest, Israel has decided as a matter of national policy that it will no longer abide by Article 79 of the Geneva convention. They have not admitted it explicitly, but there is an obvious pattern of fact that goes beyond hundreds of assassinations all the way to their law against publishing news that undermines "national morale". That, imo, is the story. Really stop and think about what a monumental and newsworthy thing it is for a major world power to so publicly confirm a policy that has been until now a matter of dispute.
But the BBC can't within their current operating guidelines find a way to tell that very vital story. That's a tragedy.
I think you should really consider the main article from the BBC on the topic, which is here: bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqyyr… In comparison to this profile, it has a lot more context.
Here the BBC lays out the full facts, including the IDF's accusations, and the reasons why those accusations are to be viewed with skepticism. It relates statements by the IDF three times, compared to 5 separate quotes from Al-Jazeera, the UN and the CJP condemning the killing, plus a letter signed by the BBC about the situation for journalists in Gaza.
In the "post-truth era" we need journalistic institutions which resist the temptation to polarise their coverage, and instead to provide neutral and balanced output that can be trusted by everyone. The tragedy of the post-truth era is the disintegration of a collective understanding of the world. By relating the facts with a neutral tone, an outlet maximises the audience which can gain that common understanding, which is far more important than instructing the audience on how to respond emotionally to a subject. It's not like the BBC are burying the problems of Israel's targeting for their readers: they lay out how the world is reliant on Gaza-based reporters to get the truth out, and quotes the accusation that Israel wants to prevent the world from seeing their crimes.
My question to you when you read the BBC's coverage is: are you not outraged by the facts? I am.
Four Al Jazeera journalists killed in Israeli strike near al-Shifa hospital
Israel said it targeted well-known reporter Anas al-Sharif and alleged he was part of Hamas, which Al Jazeera has denied.Amy Walker & Tiffany Wertheimer (BBC News)
Villagers outraged over paltry land offer for $1.5B Trump golf resort
Villagers outraged over paltry land offer for $1.5B Trump golf resort
In Vietnam, villagers whose land is slated to be cleared for a $1.5 billion golf resort backed by the Trump family have reportedly been offered meager compensation by local authorities.Ailia Zehra, Alternet (Raw Story)
Israel rejects UN allegations that its forces have sexually abused detained Palestinians
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I really appreciate the work that AP news does. Good communication and reliable reporting.
I wish, in my heart of hearts, they would link the primary sources when they are online and publicly available. As far as I can tell, UN documentation on these abuses are mostly covered here: docs.un.org/en/A/HRC/59/26
(And committee page more broadly is here: ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-… , I think Israel is responding to their more recent report, or something near it.)
(I'm not terribly well informed, do let me know of better sources.)
Israel is in talks to possibly resettle Palestinians from Gaza in South Sudan
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I'm just learning about owncast, is there any way to login or subscribe to people so I can come back to their streams at a later time?
The set name dialog says I can authenticate with a fediverse account via the authenticate dialog, but that doesn't seem to work, at least not with my lemmy account...
But if I succesfully authenticated there's no indication that would let me "subscribe" to a given channel or something though, and that's really what I want
Afaik it is only compatible with Mastodon and similar software, not Lemmy.
You should be able to follow a video channel on Owncast from Mastodon etc. and get updates that way.
The login with Fedi feature is afaik only to join the chat that is displayed next to the video stream.
British Army in Kenya: Some soldiers using sex workers despite ban, inquiry finds
An investigation by the British Army has found some soldiers stationed at a controversial base in Kenya continue to use sex workers despite being banned from doing so.Soldiers at the British Army Training Unit Kenya (Batuk) used sex workers "at a low or moderate" level, a report said, adding more work was needed to stamp out the practice.
The investigation covered a period of more than two years, examining conduct at the base dating back to July 2022.
It was commissioned in October 2024 following an investigation by ITV into the behaviour of soldiers at Batuk, including allegations some army personnel were paying local women for sex.
British Army in Kenya: Some soldiers using sex workers despite ban, inquiry finds
Chief of Defence Staff Sir Roly Walker says the army is committed to stopping sexual exploitation.Stewart Maclean (BBC News)
Russia will ban calling on WhatsApp and Telegram, media personality Ksenia Sobchak says — Meduza
The Russian authorities have reportedly decided to ban the calling feature on WhatsApp and Telegram, well-connected media figure Ksenia Sobchak reported on Tuesday, citing sources in the telecommunications industry.
The decision “has already been made at the very top,” the sources reportedly said.
“They’ve banned calls ‘under the guise of fighting terrorists,’” one source told Sobchak’s Telegram channel. Final consultations on the issue are expected to wrap up this evening, according to a government source she cited.
Sobchak noted that the apps’ messaging and channel features will still remain accessible.
Russia will ban calling on WhatsApp and Telegram, media personality Ksenia Sobchak says
The Russian authorities have reportedly decided to ban the calling feature on WhatsApp and Telegram, well-connected media figure Ksenia Sobchak reported on Tuesday, citing sources in the telecommunications industry.Meduza
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I see, but lite is much less effective. google has worked hard to make it lose its capabilities. it may still be effective at blocking youtube ads (though as it cannot use frequently updatable blocklists it probably has a higher delay for fixes when something breaks), but it cannot have specific rules for less popular sites, because of chrome's low limit on allowed filtering rules, and even though it can hide ads, that's not the sole function of ublock origin. ubo is a complex content blocker, with versatile tools to defuse site tracking on lots of websites. lite cannot do that anymore effectively, because both its capabilities have been reduced (e.g. it cannot edit network traffic anymore I think), and the number of filtering rules that it can load.
and even before lite, ubo could not be as effective on chrome as on firefox, because of slight differences in the extension api, with not so slight practical differences.
How much can I extend an OrderedCollection?
Just an idle thought... A common UX is users copying the URL in the address bar and pasting it into their fediverse app to load it in their app.
Right now if you copy a NodeBB topic (/topic/12345
) and paste it into something like Mastodon, you'll get nothing because it is an ordered collection and it doesn't know how to handle it.
But... what if I passed in a preview
property a la evan@cosocial.ca's b2b8 and it contained a Note
? Maybe a note with a different id
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Waiting for trwnh@mastodon.social to tell me this is a terrible idea.
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Right now if you copy a NodeBB topic (/topic/12345
) and paste it into something like Mastodon, you'll get nothing because it is an ordered collection and it doesn't know how to handle it.
It would be really great if you got something useful when you look up a NodeBB topic in Mastodon!
It Took Many Years And Billions Of Dollars, But Microsoft Finally Invented A Calculator That Is Wrong Sometimes
Money quote:
Excel requires some skill to use (to the point where high-level Excel is a competitive sport), and AI is mostly an exercise in deskilling its users and humanity at large.
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Unknown parent • • •Proton existed long before the Steam Deck, and before that as DXVK.
This is a battle between closed proprietary OS and open source. Proton enables translating DirectX/Windows APIs not only to Vulkan/Linux x86, but even to ARM and BSD.
octopus_ink
Unknown parent • • •Do you know what I did last week thanks to Proton? Installed EndeavourOS on my freshly purchased laptop, installed steam, and installed a bunch of Windows games. Then I played them. At no point did I wonder whether they would run.
Now, you may think being able to do that isn't something that is going to get more people using desktop Linux (or that it hasn't already done so), but as much as I'd love to agree with you, then we'd both be wrong.
I say this as someone who used to care about convincing other people to use Linux. (Before shifting into "you can lead a horse to water..." mode, and now I just don't give a shit.)
However, what I gained from that experience is this: In twenty years of being Linux-only on my personal desktop, the number of times I have read the phrase, "I'd love to use Linux, except for [some statement about a game or games]" is astronomical.
Now, is Proton going to make desktop Linux the best choice for everyone? Clearly not, duh. But it is remarkably disingenuous to suggest that it's not had a massive benefit to the Linux community and ecosystem as a whole, including, and dare I say especially, desktop Linux. It is flat out impossible to imagine that a substantial portion of current and future Linux users aren't people for whom Proton solved what they considered to be a substantial barrier to usage.
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StitchInTime
Unknown parent • • •The Bazzite console I built which is connected to my living room TV stands in contradiction. The Linux-driven gaming PC that’s sitting on my desk is confirmation.
Windows 11 and the forced obsolescence of hardware is leaving a sour aftertaste, and at this point a game maker essentially has to choose to not support Linux via Proton.
You might not be able to run Battlefield or CoD, but Marvel Rivals and Overwatch run particularly well, if not better on Linux.
And with Microsoft entering the handheld market, this is very much a question of Linux vs Windows for gaming.
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floo
in reply to Devolution • • •macOS has been free for, like, 15 years.
Yes, you have to already own an Apple computer, but Apple users don’t pay for OS upgrades.
Technically, anyone could download the OS images, but there’s not a lot that non-Apple users can do with them.
Classy Hatter
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Classy Hatter • • •paraphrand
in reply to floo • • •The big reason to make a hackintosh was to use eGPUs?
eGPUs were not supported natively? And now they are?
What timeline are you talking about here? Is it all back 10-6 years ago?
floo
in reply to paraphrand • • •paraphrand
in reply to floo • • •Ok, that makes a bit more sense then.
eGPUs got pretty good support on Intel Macs in the years leading up to Apple Silicon. And that transition started 5+ years ago. And now all Apple Silicon Macs have no eGPU support.
I find it weird that you cite eGPU support since hackintoshes almost always have PCI slots. And the eGPU support still comes from Apple (at the driver level) even on a hackintosh. AFAIK.
Duamerthrax
in reply to paraphrand • • •Duamerthrax
in reply to floo • • •malwieder
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to malwieder • • •Zorque
in reply to floo • • •As they need to be installed on Apple hardware, there's an implicit cost associated with it.
If you want to be super pedantic for no reason, you're correct, it is technically free.
floo
in reply to Zorque • • •Zorque
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Zorque • • •This is the same faulty logic as arguing that Linux also costs money because you have to pay for a computer to run it on. Any operating system requires that you own a compatible device to run it on.
You’re just drawing some imaginary line at Apple computers. It makes no sense.
Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •That’s a pretty specific and bolt claim. Presumably, you have proof of this? I doubt it, because this sounds like, at best, a guess.
Because every piece of evidence is that the license to use macOS is free. In fact, if you claim otherwise, then please, show me where I could possibly pay for it.
Any windows license always cost money.
That’s the difference between “free” and not free”. One cost money, and the other one does not.
Natanael
in reply to floo • • •It's paid for as a part of the hardware and not listed separately on the receipts. All those 3rd party components in the OS are not free and has to be paid for. That comes from the hardware sale.
apple.com/legal/sla/
You're only allowed to use Mac OS and software for it on a Mac computer, which you have to pay for.
The license additionally calls out included 3rd party licensed fonts which which you can't use unrestricted without a specific license from the market of that font
Legal - Software License Agreements - Apple
Applefloo
in reply to Natanael • • •Natanael
in reply to floo • • •You're not allowed to use it after downloading it for free unless you use it on Apple hardware that it paid for. If you don't have Apple hardware you only have a file you're not allowed to use. Paying for Apple hardware pays for the license permitting you to use it.
That's like saying that using a fixed cost subscription service is free because you're not paying at the time that you access it.
floo
in reply to Natanael • • •That doesn’t mean macOS costs money. Just the Apple hardware. It’s really weird that you can’t tell the difference between a piece of software and a piece of hardware. What’s worse as you think I have the same trouble you do.
macOS is free. Just because Apple hardware isn’t also free doesn’t mean macOS isn’t free.
Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •JustARegularNerd
in reply to floo • • •Here you go cnx-software.com/2017/10/30/h-…
The license to use macOS is not free. You must run it on a Macintosh computer and, keeping in terms of the license, cannot be run on non-Macintosh hardware. You must therefore purchase a Macintosh computer to use macOS. See Page 2, Section 2 of the Software License Agreement.
You keep repeating this argument of "show me where I can possibly pay for it" presumably because you know that it is not for sale and this is common knowledge.
What is being omitted here is that because anyone has the ability to put a PC of their own components together, Microsoft has two roads for these people: give Windows away where Microsoft sees none of that money back, or sell you a license to use Windows - they choose the second option. This is why you can buy a license for Windows. If you could only use prebuilt machines and were unable to make your own PC, the license cost would be passed onto the manufacturer and thus amortised in the final sale price, and you would also not have the ability to purchase a Windows license directly
Apple doesn't need to do these extra steps because they are both the software vendor and manufacturer, thus the development costs associated in macOS is also amortised in the final sale price.
Please stop defending a trillion dollar corporation over specific pedantics and omissions. macOS is complementary software, it is not free.
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in reply to JustARegularNerd • • •You sent me the license of agreement for a completely different piece of software and think that’s evidence of macOS costing money?
Are you hallucinating?
JustARegularNerd
in reply to floo • • •The first link is evidence that video codecs cost money and, as per that source:
This was in response to the earlier discussion about third party libraries costing money.
floo
in reply to JustARegularNerd • • •JustARegularNerd
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to JustARegularNerd • • •Me: points out of fact
You: you’re acting in bad faith!
It still doesn’t make any sense to me. Do you think I’m acting in bad faith because I acknowledge a fact, and you won’t? Or is it because I keep poking holes in your logic?
Sounds like hurt feelings to me
JustARegularNerd
in reply to floo • • •You misinterpreted what I said in that initial comment, asked if I was hallucinating, and when I clarified this misinterpretation, you proceeded to skip over anything I had said beyond the first link.
You are not giving any valid counter arguments to what I said in my original comment (in fact detracting from the original point of this whole thread by speculating you hurt my feelings?), this is why I believe you are acting in bad faith.
floo
in reply to JustARegularNerd • • •Am I supposed to feel bad for you?
Your entire comment threat has been bad faith. It’s amusing that you’re accusing me of what you’re doing. But whatever.
QuestionMark
in reply to floo • • •Ah, yes. Projection.
It's extremely amusing that you're accusing others of accusing you of doing what they're doing, while in fact you're accusing others of doing what you're doing.
floo
in reply to QuestionMark • • •is not a very convincing argument. I’m sorry you want to turn this into some sort of psychological mind game. But the fact remains that macOS is free. I’m sorry you struggle so much to accept that.
And if you equate “stating facts” with “acting in bad faith”, then that’s your own problem.
QuestionMark
in reply to floo • • •The arguments were provided by others, I simply stated what I observed. You are right that Apple doesn't make you pay for macOS separately, but in my opinion, it's like saying that Apple processors are free because you don't pay for them when you buy a Macbook. You also don't pay for Windows separately when you buy a Windows laptop, you know, but the manufacturer is paying for Windows which is added to the overall cost of the laptop.
MacOS developers have an income, and where does that income come from?
floo
in reply to QuestionMark • • •You have to pay money to buy the computer you used to run Linux. So, by your logic, Linux isn’t free either. You see how this argument is nonsense.
And you can speculate all you like about how Apple makes money to pay for its developers. I don’t know, they make this other thing called the iPhone that seems pretty popular. I bet that makes them a lot of money.
QuestionMark
in reply to floo • • •Linux has an entirely different story.
You can also donate to them.
But what about Android? Android is definitely not paid.
Android is based on the Linux kernel, which uses the GPL license.
If you release the modified version to the public in some way, the GPL requires you to make the modified source code available to the program's users, under the GPL.
Therefore, Google cannot close Android's source code, and force manufacturers to pay for it.
When you buy an Android phone, however, there are some closed-sourced components installed on them: Google Play Services, YouTube, ..., which Google can profit from.
In its earnings reports, the company combines revenue from multiple sources, under the sub-heading “Google Services”. This includes income from Android, Chrome, Maps, and hardware (like Pixel and Nest smart home devices). In the first quarter of 2022, this “services” division brought in $6.8 billion in revenue for the company. ... Oracle’s attorneys estimated that Android had generated a total of $31 billion in revenue and $22 billion in profit.
So Google does profit from Android. It's free, but Google definitely generates enough to develop Android.
Apple's situation is different from Google's. It is the sole maker of devices that run macOS, and macOS is close-sourced. It can add a price to each macOS device sold for macOS development. It would be illogical for Apple not to do this, and use the profit brought by the sale of other devices. Therefore, there's a high probability you're also paying for macOS when buying a Mac device.
How does Google make money from Android? - Android Authority
Calvin Wankhede (Android Authority)floo
in reply to QuestionMark • • •Just because Linux is open source doesn’t magically mean macOS isn’t free (which it is). This reasoning is so ridiculous. And it doesn’t get any less ridiculous them or you keep repeating it. You’re wasting your time arguing with an objective fact: macOS is free.
Unless Apple starts charging for it, there is literally nothing else that will change that. I’m sorry you just can’t accept that.
QuestionMark
in reply to floo • • •Are our definitions of "free" not the same? The way I think of "free" implies that, if the cost of a CPU/RAM/operating system is added to the overall cost of a device, that CPU/RAM/operating system is not free. You are paying for it.
You're right, because you didn't read my comment carefully. I wrote, clearly, that Linux is funded. That's where the money for its development comes from.
Linux's license means Google can't close Android's source and make manufacturers pay for it, it has other ways to profit from Android.
Windows is paid.
Every major operating system has some way to obtain money for its development. The most logical thing for Apple is to add macOS's cost to the price of Mac devices. Given this definition of not-free, the probability of macOS not being free is higher.
floo
in reply to QuestionMark • • •None of this changes the fact that macOS is free
I just don’t understand why you keep wasting your time arguing objective fact.
QuestionMark
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to QuestionMark • • •It’s not a competition, kiddo. But telling me you finally give up isn’t really the insult you think it is.
Bye!
desertdruid
in reply to floo • • •AFAIK manufacturers don't have to pay for Linux
And if MacOS is really free you would be able to manufacture and sell devices using it but there is not a single one
MacOS is free just like Windows is free (the license is included in your purchase of the hardware)
So yeah idk what you are smoking or if you get high just by being the most pedantic person in the lemmyverse
floo
in reply to desertdruid • • •That’s not what free means here. “Free“ as in costs no money for the user. Can download and install it without having to pay for it. Because it is free. You’re using the word “free” to means something obviously different than what I’m talking about.
MacOS is free just like Windows is free (the license is included in your purchase of the hardware). Except windows isn’t free. It cost is enumerated on the invoice. macOS is not. Because it is free.
Obviously, you don’t know because you keep saying things that are very, obviously not true. Are you feeling OK?
k0e3
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to k0e3 • • •Now you’re just talking to yourself.
macOS is free, and no one here has been able to give a single shred of evidence to prove to the contrary.
k0e3
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to k0e3 • • •I can hardly be blamed for not participating in another person’s delusion. Or yours.
macOS is free. But you’re free to try to prove otherwise. A lot of people have tried and failed hilariously.
enthusiasm_headquarters
in reply to floo • • •What? No. Your "payment" to Apple continues as you use OSX.
You don't need to pay "Linux" anything (though you can donate to distros and app devs if you're a sweetie).
You don't even need to pay for a computer. You can steal one or find one in the garbage. Apple hates recycling hardware, that's why they sue 3rd party Apple repair and maintenance shops. I used OSX for a decade. They were cool for a little while, being somewhat novel for adopting a UNIX-like as their backbone, but that goodwill and logic is long dead.
I hate them as much as I hate Microsoft, perhaps even more, because not only have they abandoned the ideals they marketed in the 00's, they are draconian in their enforcement of their control. Their planned obsolescence is absolutely criminal. They embezzle tens of billions of dollars overseas to avoid taxation.
And Tim Cook now blows Donald Trump for breakfast.
To hell with Apple and their whole shitty thing.
floo
in reply to enthusiasm_headquarters • • •What a fascinating hallucination you’ve had.
Regardless, macOS is free. It’s been free for the last 15 years, and if you want to prove otherwise, show me a receipt where you paid for it.
Or even the tiniest shred of proof of your claims beyond wild speculation and hatred for Apple.
Statick
in reply to floo • • •Do you also think the engine that comes with your car is free because the manufacturer doesn't sell it as a separate item and it's not listed on the receipt?
Edit: His answer proves he's just a troll. Weird thing to troll about though but I don't judge what someone gets off to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
floo
in reply to Statick • • •I don’t see how cars and engines have anything to do with the fact that macOS is free.
And, yeah, if it’s not listed on a receipt as something I paid for, you can’t argue that I paid for it. Or that anyone did. That’s absurd.
Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •Of course, nobody proved that was wrong. Because no one provided any evidence.
lol
Natanael
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Natanael • • •Nowhere in the license does it say that macOS cost money.
So, no, it’s not evidence of what you claim.
Seeker of Carcosa
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Seeker of Carcosa • • •None of this means that macOS costs money. You’re spinning a pretty crazy fantasy here to try to disapprove the fact that macOS is free.
“It costs money because something else costs money!” is a nonsense absurd argument
Seeker of Carcosa
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Seeker of Carcosa • • •Oh, I see. You just hate Apple.
That doesn’t mean that macOS isn’t free. It is.
By the way, when you buy pretty much any PC laptop, I’ve ever seen, the cost of the Windows license is definitely itemized on the invoice and receipt. Since macOS has no cost and is free, that’s why it’s not listed.
Of course, all of those other components you listed are itemized on an Apple invoice, especially if you have to pay extra for upgrades.
Your entire argument is nonsense
Seeker of Carcosa
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Seeker of Carcosa • • •I’m not pivoting to anything. Stating the same thing I always have: macOS is free.
You’re welcome to try to prove otherwise, but since it’s an objective fact, you’re probably going to run to the same issues everyone else here has.
Seeker of Carcosa
in reply to floo • • •Your argument hinges on the fact that it doesn’t appear on your receipt. Neither do any of the components of my M1 Macbook Pro other than the optional extras that I selected. By your logic I only paid for the itemised extras.
You’re arguing that any perks tied to a purchase aren’t actually factored into the cost, which is certainly a mindset that some people have and those people are the kinds of consumers that give marketers wet dreams.
A “free” perk that has the implicit requirement of buying into the company’s ecosystem - whether through a software subscription or purchasing proprietary hardware - is not free. You’ve already paid into the ecosystem and there is no additional cost.
floo
in reply to Seeker of Carcosa • • •No, it doesn’t. I was responding to your argument, putting out how it made no sense.
No, I’m not. others are arguing that it does affect the cost, however, no one has provided any evidence of this beyond speculation and guessing.
This is an opinion, not a fact. And it’s certainly not backed up by any evidence in this case.
It give me only reason you think I’m wrong is because you have no idea what I said.
Seeker of Carcosa
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Seeker of Carcosa • • •A small group of Internet strangers here is far from “everyone”. And this is the argument from popularity logical fallacy. Just because an idea is popular doesn’t mean it’s correct.
And the objective factor means that macOS is free. There’s literally nothing anyone here can do to change that. And just because it hurts some people’s feelings, doesn’t mean it isn’t true.
Seeker of Carcosa
in reply to floo • • •You're right. All 8 billion people in the world aren't telling you you're wrong so it isn't literally everyone. You're the only person rejecting objective fact. People are quoting Apple's license agreement. "nuh uh, free". People are rebutting your top level "show me a receipt" comment. "I never mentioned receipts, you brought them up. Also nuh uh, free." People are explaining the economics of perk systems. "No evidence that Apple applies this general economic theory to its business. Also nuh uh, free."
You are evidently working with a definition of free that deviates from the commonly understood definition of the word, insofar that no one has yet agreed with you. You need to communicate better because what you are doing now isn't working. Start by defining what you understand the word free to mean.
floo
in reply to Seeker of Carcosa • • •You seem really upset about this. So much that you just can’t let it go.
But the fact remains that macOS is free. And nothing you or anyone else has said will change that. I don’t know why you just keep wasting your time.
enthusiasm_headquarters
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to enthusiasm_headquarters • • •What a fascinating hallucination you’ve had.
But the fact remains that macOS is free. Wanna approve me wrong? Show me a receipt where someone paid for it in the last 15 years.
You really should talk to someone about your Apple derangement disorder.
bitjunkie
in reply to Zorque • • •Darren
in reply to bitjunkie • • •I believe macOS 26 will be the last that'll run on Intel hardware. So functionally, a year from now, Hackintosh is dead. Well, Hackintosh running the current macOS, of course. I imagine there'll be a thriving community working to keep existing hardware chugging along.
It'll be interesting to see the momentum of Linux on Macs though. If Asahi manages to crack those last few hurdles with the M1/2 hardware, it'll be a rock solid OS, particularly as ARM64 software becomes more common. Suddenly you'll have a bunch of incredibly capable Macs going cheap because they can't run the largest macOS.
Tortellinius
in reply to Zorque • • •Technically not. MacOS wouldn't be what it is today if apple didn't get any money out of it. They get that money from selling the hardware the software is exclusively on among other things. Let's say i. e. Ubuntu: When it first got released then it relied on its owners personal revenue for a long time. None of the hardware sold financed Ubuntu, because Ubuntu didn't earn money through hardware. It's obvious that the money earned by apple through its sales also go back into macOS, because if the hardware didn't make any money, macOS ceases to be developed as well.
With OPs logic, every software is technically free. But no, you pay for macOS with the hardware you purchase. You purchase the hardware because of the OS, not because of the hardware. Technically, you could spin the argument and say that you pay for the OS, and for it to be run a certain way and the hardware that comes with it is free. If that sounds like bogus it's because it is bogus.
Dremor
in reply to floo • • •I can show you many receipts where I bought a Windows laptop without a trace of any Windows licence on it.
Same, you can't really install macOS on anything else than a Mac.
Sure you can do a Hackintosh, or run Windows without a proper licence (you can buy a Windows for like... $2 on the grey market). But you won't have any support...
floo
in reply to Dremor • • •Dremor
in reply to floo • • •It is not free if you have to pay a specific hardware from the same company to run it. Same goes for Windows, it is not free if you are forced to buy Windows with the laptop.
In both case you pay for the software through the hardware.
floo
in reply to Dremor • • •Of course it is. It cost me nothing to download and install it.
Unless you can show me how you’re actually paying for the operating system, then I don’t see how you can keep making this argument. It makes no sense.
It’s the same nonsense is arguing that you have to pay for Linux just because the computer you are running on cost money.
Dremor
in reply to floo • • •You can download Windows for free too. But in both case you won't have any support unless you are running it on the authorized hardware. Windows does it though a licence, Apple through the hardware kirks.
Go on, try installing your "free" OS on a Thinkpad, and tell me if you manage to get it running.
floo
in reply to Dremor • • •I don’t understand how compatibility has anything to do with the cost of something. As I’ve mentioned elsewhere, any operating system requires that you pay money for a compatible device to run it on.
You’re just drawing some imaginary line at Apple computers. But that makes no sense.
Tortellinius
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Tortellinius • • •Tortellinius
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Tortellinius • • •I only ever had one: macOS is free. That is factually, correct
And no one here has been able to prove otherwise in anyway. And no, “something else cost money so this cost money, even though it’s free“ is not a valid argument.
Tortellinius
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to Tortellinius • • •I only ever had one: macOS is free. That is factually, correct
And no one here has been able to prove otherwise in anyway. And no, “something else cost money so this cost money, even though it’s free“ is not a valid argument.
P1nkman
in reply to floo • • •So when someone buys [anything] with a screen, the OS on the screen if free?
I don't have a receipt for the OS in my car, so it means I must've gotten it for free. Same with the seats, steering wheel, mirrors, buttons, doors, you bang it! But what did I actually pay for then?
floo
in reply to P1nkman • • •I never said that. But it does show how this black-and-white all the nothing approach makes no sense.
macOS is free because it’s free.
xthexder
in reply to floo • • •en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X…
fifth major release of Mac OS X
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)floo
in reply to xthexder • • •xthexder
in reply to floo • • •Just because they stopped selling it doesn't mean it's free. The only legal way to aquire MacOS is to buy an Apple product, or somehow get an upgrade from one of those old paid versions (which since this happens through the App Store now, you still need an Apple product).
Windows is also not free even though you can download the iso. There's license terms
floo
in reply to xthexder • • •It’s free because it’s free, not because you can’t seem to wrap your head around that fact. Or whatever pretzel branded maneuvering you’re trying to do to validate your position
macOS is free. There’s really no way you can twist that to be untrue. Not without making stuff up.
FartVentriloquist69
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to FartVentriloquist69 • • •Tortellinius
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in reply to Tortellinius • • •olympicyes
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in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to olympicyes • • •All operating system systems have hardware requirements. Just because you need to upgrade your system in order to get the latest operating system, doesn’t make the operating system any less free.
You are manufacturing connections that aren’t there in assigning meaning whether there isn’t any just cause you refuse to admit the fact that macOS is free. I guess you just hate Apple that much, but I try not to get so emotionally involved
Repeating the same absurd argument over and over doesn’t make it any more true.
AndyMFK
in reply to floo • • •when you buy a banana at the grocery store, show me the receipt that you paid for the shipping of said banana. When you buy a computer keyboard, show me the receipt for the 'F' key. When you buy a TV, show me the receipt for the capacitors.
This is not how receipts work.
floo
in reply to AndyMFK • • •atomicbocks
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to atomicbocks • • •I never said it did.
macOS is free because they don’t charge for it.
androidisking
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to androidisking • • •Really? Did you pay for it? Because it’s free for me when I download it.
Sounds like you got scammed
androidisking
in reply to floo • • •That's not the point. You're still going to have to pay money regardless if you want the operating system. Whereas windows and Linux allow you to use their ISOs is any laptop or computer so no buddy.
If I already owned a laptop beforehand and I wanted Linux on it, it's free. If I want MacOS I WOULD HAVE TO GO SPEND MONEY ON A COMPLETELY NEW COMPUTER THAT'S A MAC. that's the point I'm trying to get at.
floo
in reply to androidisking • • •Compatibility has nothing to do with how much something costs. The fact is, there’s no way to actually buy macOS. Because it doesn’t cost anything.
As I’ve said elsewhere, by your logic, every operating system cost money to run because you have to pay money for a compatible device to run it on.
You’re just drawing some imaginary line at Apple. That makes no sense.
androidisking
in reply to floo • • •Just because something doesn't have a price tag doesn’t mean it's actually usable without cost.
macOS is only 'free' if you already bought into Apple’s walled garden.
That’s like saying Disneyland is free because walking around inside the park costs nothing—after you paid $150 to get in.
Devolution
in reply to androidisking • • •I cannot believe there is this long, drawn out argument over whether MacOS is free or not when my intention was MacOS + Mac = me not buying because it's too much money for a meh system that doesn't run half of the games or apps (though that's been changing).
I feel like reading between the lines is a skill, or an art form that has gone extinct with young folk.
androidisking
in reply to Devolution • • •floo
in reply to androidisking • • •androidisking
in reply to floo • • •There’s a massive difference: Linux doesn’t require you to buy specific hardware from a specific vendor to legally run it. macOS does.
With Linux, if your hardware isn’t supported, it’s a technical limitation. With macOS, it’s an intentional restriction enforced by Apple through both legal terms (EULA) and hardware locks.
That's the difference between open and closed systems. Linux lets you try on anything—even if it might not fit perfectly. Apple forces you to buy their clothes before you're allowed in the store.
Difference my guy.
floo
in reply to androidisking • • •Sure it does. You have to have a compatible processor, compatible, memory, etc. to run Linux. Just because one has some stricter hardware requirements than another doesn’t mean it’s not just as free as the other operating system.
Regardless, none of this has anything to do with the fact that macOS is free.
Tortellinius
in reply to floo • • •Bruh what? Did you really just say that not having to buy software exclusive to a certain hardware makes the software free?
That's like saying the OS on a PlayStation is free because you only had to pay for the PlayStation.
Nah man, you purchased the OS with the hardware. That's why it's exclusive.
floo
in reply to Tortellinius • • •No, I said your argument is ridiculous. So is this one you just made.
It’s not like either of those things.
macOS is free. Just because it requires a computer to run doesn’t mean it isn’t free. That’s the worst rationalization. I’ve heard yet.
AndyMFK
in reply to floo • • •olympicyes
in reply to AndyMFK • • •floo
in reply to AndyMFK • • •lichtmetzger
in reply to floo • • •Oh, there is.
I am a web developer and I use this to run Safari and the iOS simulator without paying Apple's "debugging tax".
GitHub - kholia/OSX-KVM: Run macOS on QEMU/KVM. With OpenCore + Monterey + Ventura + Sonoma support now! Only commercial (paid) support is available now to avoid spammy issues. No Mac system is required.
GitHubolympicyes
in reply to lichtmetzger • • •lichtmetzger
in reply to olympicyes • • •olympicyes
in reply to lichtmetzger • • •railwhale
in reply to olympicyes • • •KillerWhale
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to KillerWhale • • •iopq
in reply to floo • • •floo
in reply to iopq • • •So what?
That doesn’t change the fact that macOS is free.
charizardcharz
Unknown parent • • •Fortunately Valve publishes monthly hardware statistics so we can back claims with statistics. Linux comprises 2.89% of their surveyed share. Of that 28.31% are using Steam OS. Using the wayback machine we can check the statistics from last year. Checking the July 2024 results using the Wayback Machine shows Linux at 2.08% with Steam OS comprising 40.97% of that.
From that we can see that Linux is growing, while Steam OS is becoming less of a contributing factor to the Linux share.
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in reply to gray • • •Couple technical nitpicks.
First it's debatable if Proton existed long before Steam Deck. I'm not sure the exact timeline but I think it was created as part of the Steam Box effort which wasn't all that long ago. On the other hand though Wine which Proton is built on top of most certainly has existed for a very long time before either the Steam Deck or even Proton (I have fond memories of LAN gaming with it back when Diablo 2 was new).
Second Proton doesn't enable ARM (at least by itself) so that claim is a little misleading. There is a project to realtime translate x86 instructions into ARM but that project (Box86) although it fulfills a similar role and could be used in conjunction with Proton isn't actually Proton. Using Proton by itself will not enable you to play x86/Windows games on ARM.
Lastly Proton is kind of irrelevant to the whole Linux vs BSD thing. Technically what enables that is that both implement POSIX standards plus use mostly the same libraries, frameworks (like Vulkan), and applications. Yes running Proton on BSD will let you game on BSD but that isn't really a result of Proton doing the work so much as it's a side effect of the fact you can run Proton on BSD in the first place. Additionally while there are technical and philosophical reasons why the distinction between Linux and BSD is important, practically speaking they're the same thing these days. OpenBSD isn't that much more different from a Linux distro as one Linux distro is from another.
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Unknown parent • • •Feyd
Unknown parent • • •I haven't booted windows in like 6 months and I game on my desktop PC like 4 times a week.
Edit: also protondb.com/ distinguishes reports between steam deck and PC so you can see that people are using both there as well.
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in reply to gray • • •Proton is mostly Wine, not DXVK. Wine does the translation of Windows and some DirectX APIs. DXVK translates Direct3D to Vulkan. Proton pulls it all together with some game specific patches, integration with gamescope and other Steam specific integrations.
All of this being open source means it can also be compiled for ARM and BSD. Though to get x64 games to run on ARM you need an additional emulation layer like Box64.
Though rumor has it that Valve is already experimenting with x64 emulation for their Deckard project, which is likely to be their next VR headset.
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Classy Hatter
in reply to charizardcharz • • •Steam Linux Market Share | GamingOnLinux
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sp3ctr4l
in reply to orclev • • •Proton definitely existed before the Steam Deck was released.
Proton had its initial release in 2018. I was using it on a linux desktop in 2019.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton…
The Steam Deck came out in 2022, after ~4 years of Proton improving from masses of desktop/laptop users running everything possible through it on all kinds of hardware to (auto) generate bug and crash reports for Valve (and others), who then of course actually developed it up to... I think Proton was at either 7 or 8 when the Deck actually came out, now we are on 9, 10 will probably come out of beta and be official Steam default by the end of the year.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_…
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Also, Proton was not created as part of the Steam ~~Box~~ Machine, that was way earlier, back in 2015.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_…
Also also, the 'Steam Machine' was really more of just a minimum spec requirement than a specific product, the idea was to try to get other manufacturers to take their own crack at the concept, got a small amount of buy in, but not much.
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in reply to octopus_ink • • •In my experience, it's not actually Proton specifically but more generally Wine along with DXVK and Vulkan itself.
I have as good a success rate with Windows games from GOG under Wine through Lutris (which also defaults to using DXVK and Vulkan plus has Wine configuration scripts for most GOG games, making their install fully automated and zero-configuration) as I have with Windows games from Steam under Proton.
If I understand it correctly, Proton is mainly a fork of Wine with Steam integration thrown in and changes to make sure it works with specific Steam games, so I don't think the improvements are Proton specific, but rather more global than that (the use of Vulkan instead of OpenGL, DXVK allowing DirectX games run with Vulkan, Wine improvements).
Mind you, if improvements in Proton are flowing to those other projects and having a big impact, then credit were credit is due for Proton pulling up the whole ecosystem, otherwise Proton isn't actually as crucial in improving Gaming on Linux as seems to be portrayed in so many posts here.
I can understand that if all people have used for gaming in Linux is Steam and never games from other digital sources - like GOG or even pirated games - via launchers like Heroic or Lutris, it might seem like Proton is the secret juice making gaming under Linux nowadays a vastly better experience than before, but in my experience in the last year of gaming in Linux, a good laucher using Wine + DXVK + Vulkan works just as well as Proton.
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MiltownClowns
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •grue
in reply to MiltownClowns • • •Not me! I switched in 2017, right around the time Windows 10 "telemetry" (read: spyware) was getting backported to Windows 7.
It was a rough first couple of years, gaming-wise, but I managed to get by playing mostly Linux-native games and using PlayOnLinux with pre-Proton WINE for the one or two games important enough to justify the hassle.
(INB4 "weird flex but OK")
I gotta admit, I was pretty conflicted about Proton when it was first announced, since there was a lot of fear that it would reduce developer impetus to make proper Linux-native games. I'm not actually sure whether that came to pass or not, but I feel like the issue is a lot less important than it seemed at the time.
danzania
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in reply to MiltownClowns • • •tea
in reply to MiltownClowns • • •A_Random_Idiot
in reply to MiltownClowns • • •Same here.
Windows 7 EOL is why I switched to linux.
proton is why I've stayed on linux.
I only have windows on my laptop atm, and thats only because of sheer laziness and the fact i dont use it much anymore... will be putting linux on it eventually, though.
SoftestSapphic
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •dan1101
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •octopus_ink
in reply to Aceticon • • •Proton developers are working on Wine code. Their patches go upstream. If you are using Wine, you have benefited (massively) from the sea change that has occurred (directly and indirectly) as a result of the development of Proton.
I remember the naysayers predicting that Gabe would never in a million years make the required investment because the state of Linux gaming was (in their assessment) that terrible.
And now we're having argue about whether it actually did anything for us? In the comments about an article about how much it did for us?
That's not an argument I'm having, I watched it happen.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
in reply to dan1101 • • •orclev
in reply to sp3ctr4l • • •Ah cool, thanks for looking all that up. I knew Proton pre-dated Steam Deck, I just wasn't sure exactly where in the timeline it fit between the original Steam Machine launch and the release of the Steam Deck.
It's kind of a shame that Steam Machine failed, but in many ways it was a little too ahead of its time and its failure brought us to the Steam Deck which is a much more sensible approach.
Ultimately none of this would have existed without Wine and ironically the Microsoft app store (or whatever they're calling it these days). The threat of MS getting a stranglehold on program distribution on Windows the way Apple does on OS X and iOS was enough to spur Valve into putting significant effort into making Linux a viable gaming platform, something we're all benefitting from greatly.
People seem to be downplaying somewhat how significant an achievement this is for Linux. The thing is, for most programs you can find alternatives because the point isn't the program it's what you do with it. People don't use Photoshop because they enjoy Photoshop, they do it because they want to create something, which means if you can create that same thing using a different program then you don't need Photoshop. On the other hand games are an experience. The point is the game. Sure you can play a different game, but that's not an Apples to Apples thing as the experience however similar isn't the same. That means games are uniquely placed as a roadblock for migrating away from a platform, something consoles with their exclusive releases have known for a long time. Giving people the option to play the exact same game under Linux as they can under Windows is massive because there really isn't any other way to solve that problem.
Aceticon
in reply to octopus_ink • • •Well, credit to Steam then.
I didn't know one way or the other if Proton development ended up in Wine or not, much less if Steam was or not directly participating in Wine development, all I knew is that Proton was forked from Wine in the beginning.
BlameTheAntifa
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •Natanael
in reply to BlameTheAntifa • • •richardwallass
in reply to Natanael • • •Patches
in reply to BlameTheAntifa • • •Get it to run Office and you've a game changer.
Yes, yes I know Libre/Open Office but try telling Shelly in Accounting who still struggles with Excel after 36 years of experience.
Electricd
in reply to Patches • • •madcaesar
in reply to Electricd • • •FUCK ADOBE
But yea, those cock suckers are the only reason I have to dual boot.
Electricd
in reply to madcaesar • • •Locked in their ecosystem because they're abusing their dominant position
"cock suckers" don't make sense here though
rdri
in reply to Patches • • •Bilb!
in reply to Patches • • •sp3ctr4l
in reply to orclev • • •No prob!
I think all your other info in the first comment, as well as this more recent one, is pretty much bang on accurate.
Getting gaming to work on linux is the path toward more mass adoption.
Linux has already been increasingly functional, capable, usable, and solid in many other ways, I'd argue superior in many ways... for a while, and gaming really is the last hurdle.
orclev
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •pyre
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •Patches
in reply to pyre • • •Building momentum for the year of the Linux.
You know, the one we've been reading about for 20 years.
Electricd
in reply to Patches • • •Baguette
in reply to Electricd • • •surewhynotlem
in reply to Baguette • • •Electricd
in reply to surewhynotlem • • •And why I will as well
What did you switch to?
surewhynotlem
in reply to Electricd • • •Electricd
in reply to surewhynotlem • • •I’m going with mint as well, hope it will be a good experience
I have already started searching for alternative software because I have a bunch that support Windows only currently
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in reply to OsrsNeedsF2P • • •Semperverus
in reply to PrettyFlyForAFatGuy • • •Magnum, P.I.
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •SpookyBogMonster
in reply to Magnum, P.I. • • •lightrush
in reply to SpookyBogMonster • • •nutsack
in reply to SpookyBogMonster • • •maniajack
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in reply to Magnum, P.I. • • •Magnum, P.I.
in reply to DeathByBigSad • • •sonymegadrive
in reply to Magnum, P.I. • • •It’s corporations making money off of OSS all the way down
Magnum, P.I.
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in reply to Davriellelouna • • •tea
in reply to olympicyes • • •This is why I have used flatpak steam. It's a lot easier to manage drivers in it vs the shitshow that is doing it natively with adding custom driver specific repos and whatnot.
Hoping the new PC I just ordered (with an AMD GPU) will be better with the native app.
KubeRoot
in reply to tea • • •I will remark that that sounds like a distro issue - I use Arch and the drivers are just in the official distros, no need to add external ones. Just look up what you need on the wiki and install it.
That said, AMD will still probably be a better experience.
BillBurBaggins
in reply to KubeRoot • • •SpongyAneurysm
in reply to KubeRoot • • •😀
No flak. I do, too.
tea
in reply to KubeRoot • • •KubeRoot
in reply to tea • • •I think I was using an NVidia GPU up until about 3 years ago, when I switched to AMD when upgrading, so my knowledge on that front is a bit outdated.
The arch wiki has more information if you're curious, but I'm aware of official proprietary drivers, official partially opensourced drivers, separately packaged legacy drivers, and the unofficial opensource Nouveau drivers which weren't really usable back then.
What you're describing sounds odd to me, but looking it up, sounds like Fedora doesn't package official drivers? I'm having trouble finding proper information on this, but it could be for ideological reasons, since those drivers are proprietary - so the default drivers might be Nouveau, which might be rather broken, both because of lack of workforce and NVidia blocking unofficial drivers from using their devices properly.
If that's the case, it's basically a conflict between ideology and usability within that distribution - it might seem like a great distro for users, and it might be competently made, but when somebody doesn't care about the ideology and just wants their device to work, they'll end up with confusion and work to do.
NVIDIA - ArchWiki
wiki.archlinux.orgolympicyes
in reply to KubeRoot • • •sunbytes
in reply to olympicyes • • •I've been using mint exclusively for like 3 months and have been using a hearty blend of terminal installs and the program manager app.
It seems to not have caused any problems YET, but I've been assured it will. I see flatpack conversations a lot and don't fully understand the differences (apart from the install method).
Is it worth understanding and committing to a single system or can I just be a low-power user for a while?
enthusiasm_headquarters
in reply to sunbytes • • •One thing you might notice is that flatpak defaults to "system" installs. Is your root system directory filling up? You probably want to start installing onto --user, as this will put things in /home where they belong and, by default, sandbox permissions away from root (that, too, can be easily changed).
Also, don't fear mixing different ways of installing. I use AppImage, Flatpak, the default app-get install method, and .deb. FlatPak at this point is the best, because it offers the ease of use of AppImage, but the flexibility and auto-maintenance of apt-get/Software Update. The only problems I've encountered were due to me not understanding that it was filling up my root partition by default...
I've been running Mint MATE for about 9 years. Love it to death.
olympicyes
in reply to enthusiasm_headquarters • • •olympicyes
in reply to sunbytes • • •enthusiasm_headquarters
in reply to olympicyes • • •MacOS has more than sandboxed... they are basically removing the ability of a user to do anything to their computers. I can't fix my dad's imac (I used to fix my own macs), they are impenetrable... They've more than "sandboxed" apps, they're forcing all but previously established powerusers to take their dying overpriced lumps to the Apple store. This, they say, is "good for you." I loved Apple for 8 or so years. Hate them to death now.
My 9-year-old quad-core running Mint MATE 22 boots up faster than both my dad's 2-year old iMac and my 6-core PC running Win11. And I can tell you what every process running is doing... bonus.
enthusiasm_headquarters
in reply to olympicyes • • •A sidestory to this is that Flatpak and AppImage have been miraculous boosts to Linux OS machines. After I figured out that ya gotta throw the --user flag into your flatpak installs so they don't jam up your / tree, and also throwing flatpak override --user xyz.app onto a few apps that benefit from universal access, things have been fine and dandy.
I continue to be happy with how awesome Linux has gotten just over the past 5 years.
LunaChocken
in reply to enthusiasm_headquarters • • •WhiskyTangoFoxtrot
in reply to sp3ctr4l • • •There are still some other hurdles. GIMP isn't as good as Photoshop (at least that's what the Photoshop-users keep telling me,) Kdenlive isn't as good as Premiere, etc. There are still market segments where switching to Linux is unfeasible. However, gaming is a pretty big segment in itself, and it is becoming feasible for many of those users to switch to Linux (with the main exception being people who play games with kernel-level anticheat.)
This creates a snowball effect since as more people switch to Linux it creates incentive for software and hardware makers to provide Linux support, which will allow more people to switch to Linux, etc.
Gaming isn't the last hurdle, but it's a very important one.
Aaron_Davis
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •Echo Dot
in reply to Aaron_Davis • • •I'm getting back into PC gaming after being consult exclusive for a while. I'm assuming anything with kernel anti-cheat is still not trying to work which is a problem because it means I either have to buy a windows licence or mess around with a cracked one which has its own security concerns.
I think my plan is to dual boot and use Windows as little as often.
AppearanceBoring9229
in reply to Echo Dot • • •CybranM
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in reply to CybranM • • •bitjunkie
in reply to CybranM • • •End of support for Windows 10, Windows 8.1, and Windows 7 | Microsoft Windows
Windowspibfyhd7g57gd5u64f
in reply to Echo Dot • • •GitHub - massgravel/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts: Open-source Windows and Office activator featuring HWID, Ohook, TSforge, KMS38, and Online KMS activation methods, along with advanced troubleshooting.
GitHubtoynbee
in reply to Echo Dot • • •PrettyFlyForAFatGuy
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in reply to OhVenus_Baby • • •Lka1988
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •Zink
in reply to Lka1988 • • •So, my middle aged ass plays the microtransaction-laden bullshit known as Roblox because my 3rd grader and all his friends love it.
It doesn't even have a Linux version but thanks to the project "sober" it plays absolutely fantastically on Linux. I think they claim 2x the performance of the windows version. I just know I have a powerful but old system (8c/8t 9700k cpu and gtx1080 gpu) and I can lock it at 144fps at 1440p and it uses like 20% of my system resources. Not that it's a visually demanding game, lol.
Going all-in on my switch to Linux (my win10 partition for dual booting lasted less than two weeks) has had zero negative impact on my ability to play the games I want. In fact, it has led to me using my PC a lot more and my phone a lot less. Feels good.
Bahnd Rollard
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •lucien-rowan
in reply to Davriellelouna • • •buttnugget
in reply to lucien-rowan • • •Luccus
in reply to buttnugget • • •Not really. But from a security perspective, giving software for a video game, done by InfinityWard, EA, Activision, Treyarch and similar, access to the lowest level of your operating systen is kinda insane.
I wouldn't want any personal data on such a device, let alone do online baking on that thing. It's weird how normalized it has become give entertainement-software this kind of power over your devices.
buttnugget
in reply to Luccus • • •From Wikipedia:
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