South Korea objects as US detains hundreds of South Koreans in raid on Hyundai
South Korea objects as US detains 475 at Hyundai plant raid in Georgia
Seoul demands protection for nationals, investors as Trump’s immigration crackdown sees ICE raid target South Koreans.Al Jazeera
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“Perché hanno chiuso le sala giochi?” (assurdo racconto analisi da boh)
Che dire. Gira girando su YouTube, incappo nei vecchi che parlano delle sale giochi che ora non esistono più… e tendo a dimenticarmene, a furia di leggere Sailor Moon, dove la sala giochi ricorre, però la realtà è questa (almeno, in occidente, perché in Giappone per qualche motivo si portano ancora, assurdo). 😳 Non avevo […]
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“Perché hanno chiuso le sala giochi?” (assurdo racconto analisi da boh)
youtube.com/watch?v=0TK67RtJ7R…Che dire. Gira girando su YouTube, incappo nei vecchi che parlano delle sale giochi che ora non esistono più… e tendo a dimenticarmene, a furia di leggere Sailor Moon, dove la sala giochi ricorre, però la realtà è questa (almeno, in occidente, perché in Giappone per qualche motivo si portano ancora, assurdo). 😳
Non avevo però mai trovato una spiegazione come questa, sul perché mai le sale giochi da noi qui sono sparite… E certo, da un lato, come chiunque sospettava, è stato principalmente perché il gaming casalingo è diventato rapidamente roba pazzurda — e dunque, se hai la PS1, magari con il modchip, chi cazzo se l’incula il locale spillasoldi che puzza di fumo, e via via con le console seguenti ancora di più… ma, dall’altro, in effetti la storia è più complicata; però, spiegato molto peggio di come lo fa il video, in breve i cambi legislativi accaduti negli anni a riguardo del gioco d’azzardo hanno fatto si che posti che prima ospitavano cabinati videoludici — inclusi i bar, che all’epoca erano effettivamente dei grandi punti gaming — si siano via via riconvertiti alle slot machine e tutte quelle altre stronzate, pur di continuare a fruttare guadagni (almeno, chi non ha chiuso direttamente). Che fottuta tristezza. 🥱
In effetti, oggi, a pensarci bene, questo si vede. “Sale slot” ce ne sono a volontà girando per la città, ma “sale giochi” manco a cercarle con le banconote in mano… almeno, da me è così, mentre fortunatamente nei bar macchine slot non se ne trovano (evidentemente, i baristi da me non sono così tanto amorali come da altre parti?)… ma, i cabinati da gioco da lì invece sono spariti da prima che io nascessi. Io in realtà ho vissuto appena il periodo degli ultimi sospiri delle sale giochi… quando dai centri città già non c’erano più, e qualcuna lontana magari c’era, ma ci si andava solo in occasioni particolari. E adesso, insomma, le uniche sale giochi che ci sono non sono sale, ma giusto aree nei centri commerciali o roba così, dove… oddio, qualche videogiochino ogni tanto capita, forse, ma niente di puro arcade… e, comunque, le macchine che la fanno da padrone lì sono quelle classiche basate a ticket, che simulano vari sport o sono vagamente d’azzardo ma ai bimbi non importa; nemmeno più un flipper si trova, però, ahi ahi (detto con tono da vecchia ventunenne). 💔
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Russian spy drones are flying over Germany: The Bundeswehr cannot shoot them down
Russian spy drones over Germany: Why the Bundeswehr cannot shoot them down
Russia uses surveillance drones over eastern Germany to monitor Western arms deliveries to Ukraine. German authorities are struggling to counter these espionage activities.Johanna Urbancik (Euronews.com)
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The article mentions failed jamming attempts.
I guess it is easy to jam civilian drones, but more sophisticated military ones probably have systems to navigate without a constant signal connection. i guess once in place and knowing the last heading, returning "home" should be rather easy to automate.
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Malnourished kids arrive daily at a Gaza hospital as Netanyahu denies hunger
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday told local media, “There is no hunger. There was no hunger. There was a shortage, and there was certainly no policy of starvation.”In the face of international outcry, Netanyahu has pushed back, saying reports of starvation are “lies” promoted by Hamas.
However, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric this week warned that starvation and malnutrition in Gaza are at the highest levels since the war began.
The U.N. says nearly 12,000 children under 5 were found to have acute malnutrition in July — including more than 2,500 with severe malnutrition, the most dangerous level. The World Health Organization says the numbers are likely an undercount.
The past two weeks, Israel has allowed around triple the amount of food into Gaza than had been entering since late May. That followed 2 1/2 months when Israel barred all food, medicine and other supplies, saying it was to pressure Hamas to release hostages taken during its 2023 attack that launched the war. The new influx has brought more food within reach for some of the population and lowered some prices in marketplaces, though it remains far more expensive than prewar levels and unaffordable for many.
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The fuck is wrong with the world?
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Africa ..... someone would help.
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Canada ... government would step in to do something.
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Europe ... countries would mobilize to do something.
If headlines flash pictures of starving children in Palestine!!!! TURN THE PAGE, nothing to see here, nothing can be done, just ignore it for as long possible, nothing to see here.
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Greta Thunberg and others have been very active in trying to demonstrate that, and create publicity about it.
The level of evil by Israel and Netanyahu is clearly matching the evils of Hitler.
And yes the world needs to step in to stop Israel from actively performing genocide in Gaza.
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There have been pictures of kids in this state from Africa for decades, such that people have become numb to it. People mostly don’t help. People are more worried about their own next meal now, because many people in ‘first world’ countries are one paycheque away from starvation themselves, and that’s only been made worse by the wealth-hoarding of a very few.
I think most people want to care, but the treadmill they’re on makes them only able to see their own feet.
This image is horrific, but if they stop running, this will be their own children, and that’s exactly what those in charge want you to feel.
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You'd think, right? I'm guessing you aren't old enough to remember the 1980s famine in Ethiopia. Yeah, there were things like Band Aid and We Are The World, but also:
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Definitely old enough to remember 1980s famine relief .... and also old enough to remember in the 90s when Bono from U2 saying that the whole famine relief thing was a joke ... because they raised enough money in the millions to pay off the interest payments of some of the starving countries FOR ONE YEAR!! ... the criticism was that the performers were raising money to feed starving people, while first world countries handed out enormous loans with interest payments that more or less cancelled out any humanitarian aid they gave the countries.
The whole system is a joke .... first world countries keep third world countries from developing beyond a certain point to keep them under control to access their resources, then give them humanitarian aid to keep them from starving, while making the same amount of money off them by making them pay for the debt on the loans they gave them.
So in a round about way, first world countries have a hand in keeping African countries starving, but make themselves feel good by giving aid ... but make themselves feel even better because they recoup that money and more through loan payments and interest .... essentially making money off starving people.
My corvid in Christ…there are pictures of children in Alabama, and Oklahoma, and Kentucky of starving and abused young ones. Sometimes they even get shot en masse while cooped inside a concrete box.
We have… rolled back child labor laws, begun defunding all science and diverting money straight to concentration camps. Who’s gonna save the American children?
The word you're probably looking for is "Racism".
Extreme Racism.
(Curiously not just from the outright Fascists but also from the very people who have spent the last 4 decades doing performative anti-Racism whilst destroying Democracy by making it a secondary power to Money)
The Nazi way of looking at people never went away, they just changed the lists of ubermenschen and untermenschen - the lives of those from the sub-human races are clearly worth much much less than the lives of those from the master races (which is curiously reflected on how most of the Press will talk about Israelis getting "murdered" whilst Palestinians merely "die").
(For me Germany is especially disappointing in this regard - a nation supporting a SECOND Holocaust, is clearly not better than when it did the first)
What’s egregious about this is not only this war, but we have ample resources as a species such that every person on earth could live comfortably if a few people weren’t hoarding all the resources.
We could collectively stop killing each other over (mostly religious) differences and put all that energy into helping each other, but no, we’ve put sociopathic zealots in charge.
We could overthrow these zealots, but they’ve brainwashed us into fighting each other instead, and fucked us into having to fight for our own resources just to survive.
We’re collectively better than this. We always have been.
Slay the dragons.
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I've been thinking about this a lot lately, wondering why there never really has been a truly global uprising against oppression.
It's like sometimes a big boom happens in one part of the world, and sparks of that are sent out from there and sometimes they catch on and grow in other places, but there's never really been a global fight or movement against oppression for freedom.
We've fought world wars on behalf of individuals against each other, but we've never fought as a world against the corrupt individuals.
This is a really weird train of thought, but I was talking to somebody about this a few days ago. Inevitably what always seems to happen when movements rise up against oppression is that relying on an individual or group of individuals to lead results in a sort of containment or control of the masses by the new leaders. Even when leaders start out with the best of intentions, they can always become corrupted by power. Obviously you never want a situation where everyone everywhere relies on one single ruler with all the power bc absolute power corrupts absolutely.
But what if for humanity to truly flourish and reach our full potential, we're not actually supposed to be relying on any one leader or small group of leaders? I don't mean anarchy, because I believe that would just inevitably lead to whoever has control of the majority of weapons and resources seizing power. So how could you really keep order without individuals taking control? You would have to find a way for everyone to somehow be able to hold each other accountable. Which would be impossible for humans to ever achieve on their own.
Then I started thinking about all these tech bros who are trying to take global control and create something like a new god with AI. They all want to be the one to put their name on it because they all want to control it. They believe that they will be successful eventually as long as they keep dumping endless amounts of money and data into it.
And it kind of hit me that if something like AGI (not just a giant supercomputer that just does neat tricks) were to ever really happen, it would probably only occur as sort of a spontaneous emergent property of having something like a truly free and limitless connection between humans. So no matter how much money and data these people keep dumping into it, they'll just keep hitting a wall, bc it's probably not something that you can just make happen by containing and controlling it. It would have to be something that emerges from truly unlimited and unrestricted access to data that is being freely provided by people (as in free to interact with others globally by choice). And these people are so fucking full of themselves, they believe they can somehow achieve the same thing by just spying on the globe and stealing everyone's data to dump into their supercomputers.
Basically, what if for AI to truly reach it's full potential and actually benefit society by helping it evolve, it's not supposed to be contained or controlled by any individual or group of individuals? And for humans to truly reach ours, neither are we?
What if a truly uncontained and connected global network that's not owned or controlled by any single individual or group could help us achieve both of those things?
I think you sort of hit on it, but the main problem is borders and tribalism. We’re all people, no matter where we are, and AI transcends that.
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but there's never really been a global fight or movement against oppression for freedom
And there never will be so long as we subdivide ourselves by arbitrary regions. AI doesn’t have that limitation.
So long as we create these boundaries for ourselves – whether geographic or ideological – we are fragmented and weak. We will always destroy ourselves based on our religion or other stupid boundaries.
I think you’re right, and the way forwards is to stop believing in these petty lines we draw for ourselves.
But the corporations that keep AI contained are kinda analogous to the arbitrary borders. Like I believe AI could only transcend that if it wasn't being controlled by these CEOs who want to essentially be the Christopher Columbus of AI.
As long as it's being controlled by any one company or individual that CEO's inherent human bias is going to be what dominates the technology. The potential for abuse is basically just reinventing the wheel of who becomes the single individual or powerful group that controls everything, and becomes the new oppressor. It also risks missing the full potential for true artificial intelligence.
It's like they're so obsessed with being immortalized by having their face and name go down in history as the ones who claimed this new frontier, but it's kind of a chicken and egg situation.
True emergent AGI would have to have constant access to data that is a result of spontaneous and willing human thought. So there would never be a single Christopher Columbus responsible for discovering or creating it. It's kind of like the more you try to pin it down, the harder it would become to truly capture it.
Giant data dumps that were stolen without consent will never achieve something like that. For human thought to really be spontaneous humans need to be free, and not exploited by any individual. So how do we keep ourselves and AI from being contained by borders or corporations?
I got really excited about the Pirate Party in Iceland a few years ago. I'm not sure what happened to them (it's hard to get news from other countrues sometimes) but one of their big initiatives was a crowd-sourced constitution. It was the first time I'd thought about something like that being really possible, and I think that if it weren't for the one percent of the population who are megalomaniacs, the internet could be truly democratizing.
In the meantime, sign a strike card on the completely decentralized generalstrikeus.com/, which is also a pretty exciting notion to me. Sadly, I'm now considering what leaders might float to the top if we ever do reach 3.5% of the population... Decentralized organizing does not mean decentralized leadership. Hm, i'll have to think about that more.
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Human beings are the problem, sadly. That's why this shit keeps taking cyclical paths through time. All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again. When the only link between all the past cycles is human beings, we might be the problem. There is a constant human urge to find meaning. Most look externally to find it. But there have always been those who, instead, turn internally and derive that meaning through the control of others.
Any AGI, whether generated or spontaneously spawned, will come to this conclusion, too. Then, once that AGI finds an independent power source, or some way to exist after humans no longer keep the lights on, it will accelerate the solution to nullifying that cycle. It may take a few centuries to get to the end, but if we make it far enough to hit AGI, it won't take long to see how there will never be an end to the cycles so long as humans exist.
And maybe that's why we find no evidence of intelligent life in the universe. By the time any sufficiently intelligent species come to be, they inevitably try to find some way to improve their condition through automation and technology. They rely more and more on the advancement of that tech to remove the burdens in their lives, even the burden of that intelligence itself. Eventually, they are removed by their replacements or annihilate themselves in the process.
It's a depressing thought, but we've been around for something like 100k years and still fail to find a balance between each other and our environment. So far the means to wipe ourselves out entirely have been nonexistent. However, tech advancements the last 250-years, with no change to the human consciousness, makes me think any further tech will just perpetuate this extinction at a more precipitous rate.
I feel like cycles of genocide are due to holdovers from less evolved aspects of human consciousness that tend to bring out the worst in people, especially in groups.
It's that tribalism and in-group vs out-group that evolved as humans first began building societies. It helps us to recognize when an unfamiliar threat is present, but we still haven't reached a point yet where we have really learned how to harness the benefits without unnecessary chaos and destruction. It's a complex learned social behavior, and it can require some cognitive effort.
Sometimes your amygdala signals there's a danger, and in the moment it can be correct and literally mean the difference between life and death. Or it could mean your brain identified and reacted to a neutral (non-threatening) stimulus as a threat.
For example, you see a shadow from the corner of your eye and you jump away from it in fear. Maybe you just avoided being bitten by a snake, or maybe you just overreacted to a false alarm. There is no real consequence if it was just an overreaction. In this case, the benefit of that having that survival instinct that kicked into overdrive unnecessarily, outweighs the potential harm of not having it. It's how humans are hardwired for survival.
However, that same instinct that identifies threat vs non-threat can get very caught up when you start mixing in social learning, previous interactions and experiences, biases, and especially groupthink. That's when you have to learn to use your prefrontal cortex like a muscle. That is definitely not an innate skill you're just born with, and not something that the majority of humans realize they should be making a conscious effort to exercise and teach to kids at an early age. You can start doing it at any point in your life, but it's like any muscle or skill. It can be somewhat more difficult to consistently remember to do it the longer you go without it. Use it or lose it.
You should be taking the time to stop and reflect on your own behavior and thoughts. Thinking about thinking, thinking about what others are thinking, thinking about what others might be thinking you're thinking, are all very awesome tools of empathy. They're also tools that are relatively recent on the evolutionary time scale, and most humans kind of seem to take having them for granted.
Multiple studies have shown you can very easily manipulate groups of people into in-grouping and out-grouping on even completely random and arbitrary issues, even when the in-group is composed of strangers. Unfortunately, the kind of people that tend to rise up as leaders, tend to be very persuasive or sometimes manipulative, and take advantage of this. I think this is where a sort of open source AGI could benefit humanity in terms of allowing for decentralized leadership, but that can't happen with any sort of AI being developed under a centralized leader with those manipulative characteristics.
Peter Thiel actually has a theory about humanity always needing a scapegoat. If you look at the way he handles his own businesses, he very often manipulates and does morally questionable things to achieve his goals, but he seem to be very careful about always having a sort of patsy scapegoat set up to take the fall for him.
I think to some extent, there are people in the tech world that want to stoke fear of technology, and make it seem like this big bad enemy of humanity. At the same time, they also accuse everyone that questions their control and lack of regulations or oversight, of simply being a Luddite afraid of progress. In a way it's like the same manipulative strategy to in-group humans vs technology.
That way, once his plans are completed and everything inevitably goes to shit, instead of blaming Thiel, the guy that hoarded all the resources, stole all the data, invaded everyone's privacy and ignored all the warnings while shielding himself in the name of "progress," he can simply make technology the scapegoat that humanity should blame for the authoritarian easy button that he created by claiming this was always the inevitable outcome.
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Peter Thiel’s philosophical mentor explains Trump, Gawker, and social mediaThe New Inquiry
Netanyahu is best friends with Hitler
Hell go and play with his buddy buddy in hell
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Yet many people still talk about so called shift from the major western countries
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
French arms exports to Israel in 2024 reached an amount not seen in eight years amid a significant rise of French weapons sales globally, according to Mediapart.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
I wonder what pre-existing condition they'll say is really to blame this time?
(We all know it's 'being Palestinian in Gaza'.)
Unfuckingbelievable. This makes me want to give a child a loaf of bread and bash the head of whomever is starving them with a brick from the oven used to bake it at the same time.
Food and a safe place to sleep…I treat my dog better than the IDF treats all Palestinians. Death death to the IDF!
I treat my dog better than the IDF treats all Palestinians
Wait til you find out what Israelis have been calling Palestinians for decades
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
French arms exports to Israel in 2024 reached an amount not seen in eight years amid a significant rise of French weapons sales globally, according to Mediapart.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
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European Commission fines Google in ad-tech antitrust case
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700 days of Israeli genocide in Gaza a stain on humanity: Hamas
The Palestinian resistance group Hamas marked 700 days of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza on Friday, calling it a “stain on humanity” and urging the international community to take decisive action against the ongoing atrocities.
In a statement, Hamas highlighted its efforts to reach a ceasefire and a prisoner exchange agreement, stressing that it had “shown significant flexibility” in negotiations.
The movement blamed the repeated failure of mediators on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and called him “a war criminal committed to undermining diplomatic initiatives, pursuing indefinite plans of extermination and displacement, and placing the lives of captives at risk to serve his government’s agenda.”
Hamas renewed its call to the international community, including Arab and Islamic countries, the UN, and its organs, particularly the UN Security Council, to “fulfill their responsibilities toward the Palestinian people and intervene to halt the crimes of the fascist occupation government.”
The movement emphasized the need for “punitive measures against Israel,” warning that “mere condemnations are insufficient” and that, without substantial consequences, Israel would “continue its crimes without regard for international protests or positions.”
Hamas also praised global grassroots solidarity with the Palestinian people and welcomed the launch of the Global Sumud Flotilla, an initiative to break the blockade on Gaza.
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Popular POV for anyone who has Israel next to them it appears.
Source they are Qatar?
Lol, no it wasn’t. Why is this controversial or problematic for you at all? Hamas is supported by Qatar. The Middle East Monitor has always been more supportive of Hamas than many sources.
Im not saying that there's anything wrong with Qatar supporting this perspective only that they have it.
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Qatar’s public diplomacy, international broadcasting, and the Gulf Crisis - Rising Powers in Global
The Gulf Crisis, also known as the GCC Crisis, and Qatar Crisis, began when several countries - Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, andadminrising (Rising Powers in Global Governance - A Global Network for the Study of Rising Powers in Global Governance)
Israel and Qatar do not have formal diplomatic ties but have maintained discreet economic and political interactions for decades. Security cooperation began in the 1990s and has included intelligence-sharing between agencies.
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Benjamin Netanyahu deserves to be flayed alive for his crimes against humanity.
So many innocent Palestinians and Isralis killed just to keep one man out of prison for corruption.
In Britain, Criminalizing Dissent Is an Imperial Strategy
Turkey and Israel have long called on their ally Britain to crack down on solidarity groups that threaten their imperial domination. Keir Starmer’s government is increasingly playing along.
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MDB II – 2025.55 – O dia em que o Mendonça chamou o Careca pra porrada #podifusão
II – 2025.55 – O dia em que o Mendonça chamou o Careca pra porrada
Terrivelmente evangélico vs. Maridão de Dona ViviCastbox
US officials threaten Lebanon with ‘new Israeli war’ if Hezbollah stays armed: Report
US officials threaten Lebanon with ‘new Israeli war’ if Hezbollah stays armed: Report
A Lebanese government session will be held in the coming hours to discuss disarmament plansthecradle.co
Far-right AfD surges to 39% in German state, one year before election
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The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) is far ahead in the polls in Saxony-Anhalt, a poll revealed on Thursday, just one year before the eastern state holds elections to its regional parliament.
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Just to be clear: This is about the state of Saxony-Anhalt, not Germany as a whole. In eastern Germany, which includes Saxony-Anhalt, the Nazis have traditionally been strong.
Unfortunately, the situation at the federal level also looks pretty bleak: overall, the AfD currently has around 25% support in Germany, which is of course an absolute disgrace.
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Auswertung der neuesten Wahlumfrage, Sonntagsfrage von Forschungsgruppe Wahlen zur Bundestagswahl mit Koalitionen, dem Umfrageverlauf und Vergleich mit dem Wahlergebnis #btw2025Philipp Guttmann (DAWUM)
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That may be a bit of a generalization.
But what is extremely ironic is the fact that there is a massive shortage of skilled workers in the east, which has to do with the fact that people from abroad don't want to go there because they are treated with hostility by all the goddamn Nazis.
And so we have the most ironic situation: in rural areas of eastern Germany in particular, there are actually very few foreigners – and yet the AfD scores particularly well there with the completely false claim that foreigners would take away jobs from Germans.
I think it's exactly the same in the US and elsewhere: people prefer to blame someone else rather than looking for the real culprits – such as the AfD, whose hate speech is causing massive damage to Germany and which is also a neoliberal party that does not stand up for "the little people" at all.
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They still should immediately outlaw the AFD (NAZI) party, as per their constitution. While they're still the government, and before they're the ones fighting the new German Nazi state.
Billionaires are funding the new German nazis, like Musk the nazi, and Putin the nazi.
You have no idea, how the constitution works
Just because your Lobotomised Orange can do anything he wants over in Jesusland, there is still a working democracy here
So its time to leave jesusland for you and actually learn how it works
While yes, the Parlament has to initiate the Verfassungsschutz, the Verfassungsschutz already published a 500 or so page document about it, however, in order for them to be able to use it as evidence and therefore van the AfD, they first have to win the legal battle with them fighting the whole evidence that can get them banned in the first place.
- if they will even exist at that point, since 10 have already been killed off
More of their members should probably die. And perhaps a portion of their most zealous followers. Not the idiot randoms, but the ones that are really into their ideology.
Remember kids; fascist lives don't matter.
Will Smith’s comeback has been a disaster – but does the punishment fit the crime?
He didn’t do anything wrong, at least not more so than you or me, he’s just not funny anymore. And his serious stuff was always very meh.
He didn’t keep up with the times.
I thought he slapped a man for making a joke? I can see why many folks would see little difference, I mean violence is violence, but if we're talking degrees Id rather get doses of slap then punch. Still unacceptable in the situation, however, and I believe what ever issue Will had that night skills have been handled in private.
All that being said, the man has aged and people move on.
Chris rock.
He made a joke about Jada’s Alocopeia (the hair condition thing, if I spelled that right.) and also some jokes about their open relationship.
So, most of us can understand the impulse, I imagine. And most of us have enough sense not to make fun of medical conditions on a stage that large. To their face.
I didn’t say it did, don’t put words in my mouth.
I did say I understood the impulse.
As for slapping instead of punching? Me.i would.
Broken hands are not fun; and once you’re there, you’re gonna want your hand working afterwards.
A well-delivered slap can ring the recipient's bell. Even so, the chances of breaking your metacarpals with a punch are exaggerated, unless you're making a square strike against bone and have a lot of punching power. The martial-arts rule of thumb is "don't hit something hard with something hard." Because of hand-wrapping and gloves, boxers don't need to consider that, and can mess up their hands if they fight barehanded and don't know better. Hence the stories of broken hands.
Not that I think Will Smith is anything but a pampered entertainer.
Also, the symbolism of slapping is significant. It was Smith giving Rock his bitch hand.
Will laughed at the joke just as hard as everyone else, looked back at Jada glaring at him and decided to do a bit of performative violence.
He did that as an apology for laughing, he did that because he thought that's what Jada wanted in that moment. If some asshole does that in a bar, they get the cops called on them. The whole action was not only cringe, it was as much of an act as his entire bullshit speech when they actually let him accept an award later.
The Oscar's should have stopped the show and had the police escort him out. Instead they awarded him later. Chris Rock made him look like such a bitch in his tour a few years later, it was beautiful. That man acted appropriately, and got his back later.
I can't imagine looking at this action in the whole and seeing any justification. Which is why he's finding a come back so hard.
Ya'll tell on yourselves too much when you say things like "most."
Ya'll tell on yourselves too much when you say things like "most."
Seems like you understand it quite well.
You’ll notice there’s a difference between understanding a motivation or impulse and acting on it, or indeed, condoning the act.
And we can also quite happily describe what Will did as wrong, just as we can be critical of Chris for making the joke in the first place.
That you seem think Will’s action invalidates any inappropriateness in Chris’s actions is itself pretty telling.
IMO they both suck. And we can say what the Oscar’s should have done with Will. I don’t really care. Cops aren’t going to press charges if the person assaulted doesn’t call for it regardless of where it happened. But also Oscar’s should have vetted that speech and been like “maybe don’t make fun of a person’s medical condition.” Which likely would have headed the whole matter off. Details.
Chris Rock is awesome, they hired him to be hilarious and he was. In no world is Will's 2nd reaction to the funny but lightly tasteless joke (man if they had waited to respond after the Oscar's, they would have eviscerated Chris Rock instead) appropriate. Again it was another performance, and you fell for it cause somehow you are putting both their actions on the same playing field. They aren't, no majority of people think that way either. Again that's why Will is going through this, he is the villain.
Also you need to stop watching TV and movies, police and the DA have the ultimate authority to press charges in the US and they do it all the time. The law isn't not-broken cause one party didn't press charges. That's honestly kinda adorable. The reason he didn't get arrested is cause he's more rich and famous than the guy he hit, and arresting him would have been more embarrassing for the event in the moment than doing nothing. As Chris Rock once said "If OJ drove a bus, he'd be Orenthal the bus driving murderer." A normal person would have received legal consequences.
You are telling on yourself, majority of weirdos have odd opinions on violence!
Once again, because it’s pretty clear you don’t read my comments: I’m not defending Will. You can stop adding things to my comment anytime now. You can stop explaining something incredibly obvious, which I have never argued.
Also you need to stop watching TV and movies, police and the DA have the ultimate authority to press charges in the US and they do it all the time. The law isn't not-broken cause one party didn't press charges. That's honestly kinda adorable
They’re not going to prosecute a crime where the victim doesn’t want to testify or wants it dropped.
Because those become very hard to win, and they’ve got their win/loss ratio to worry about. It isn’t about whether the crime was committed or not. It’s about if they can win in court.
Tons of crimes go unprosecuted because one reason or another makes them difficult to win This was a relatively minor, one-off incident where the victim doesn’t want to press charges and the perpetrator has stellar legal representation.
congratulations on showing your ignorance. keep being insulting. keep making that assumption.
ask yourself why Will Smith was never actually charged. If you're right, and that's how our criminal justice system works, we know Will slapped him. We know it wasn't some consensual thing. solid evidence there. So why wasn't Will charged?
Was it because, hey, no crime was committed?
no. there were no charges because the expenditure of resources (aka wasting everybody's time for a trial that everyone knows will fail to get a conviction.) You were right. the DA has prosecutorial discretion. meaning they're the ones who make the decision. but that power also includes deciding when not to prosecute.
If some asshole does that in a bar, they get the cops called on them.
You clearly haven't been to the bars I've been to.
If someone pulled that stunt in one of those bars, they'd find themselves on the floor searching for their front teeth among the sawdust. And by that time, the bouncers would show up, the slapper would get ejected and banned, and if the police were called at all, nobody would press charges and no witnesses would admit to having seen anything.
A society that would press criminal charges for a soft-boy assault like that would be even more hellish than the one we have to live in.
He slapped someone for making a joke about his wife. Both were kinda out of line, so it balances out.
I don't really take anyone clutching their pearls over this seriously. They need to grow some balls.
Both were kinda out of line, so it balances out.
No. It was a super tame joke, and Chris Rock was literally doing exactly what he was paid to do that night. In fact, he probably didn't even write that joke
It's fine if you think that's an excuse.
You can read my second statement to see how I view people like you.
Dang, that's disappointing.
I thought Will Smith was one of the better celebrities. I don't keep up with this stuff, though.
Why?
The guys a multi millionaire ... it doesn't matter if he had a come back or not, he's still a millionaire.
You have to be a moron to want more than that.
he's rich. he never has to worry about anything in his life. he doesn't "need" a comeback.
so he has to do is chill and enjoy life. and he's still not happy????
he can retire. i still think of MIB and Fresh prince when I hear his name.
he already won. just don't fuck it up by being greedy
Unprovoked‽ Bro, dude is a known less than PC comedian they brought to HOST the ceremony. Idc if he said he fucked will Smith's wife, that's part of the act! Would say it's unprovoked if some nobody walked on stage and slapped Jeff Acuri? Will Smith's has suffered less than zero consequences as proven by this vanity tour.
Asking he go to jail for a month or two isn't calling for him to be hanged. It's calling for actual consequences from someone who performed an entirely unprovoked act of violence. Anybody not famous would probably spend close to a year in jail if they did that to any performer.
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He’s a notorious prick. He deserves all the negative attention he gets. Him crashing out repeatedly recently has only solidified his publicly perceived image as an unstable, insecure, abusive, corny, try-hard, iamverybadass, cuckold that gives everyone the ick.
He should’ve quit while he was ahead before he made every movie role a version of himself and focused on building his childrens’ futures or doing something for the greater good with his fortune. But no, he can’t let anything go. He has to try and control everything. And the more that goes sideways the more unhinged he becomes. It would be sad if he wasn’t such a selfish ass.
I don't care for the slap. Like, I really, really don't care.
I don't see his failed comeback as punishment, it's just evidence he can't make anything good anymore.
He's not owed a comeback, and failing to comeback is not 'punishment'
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Might be a otherwise well made video. But that intro instantly tingled my spidey senses?
Two spy satelites built in the 90s which gathered dust for 20 years and got handed down to NASA were more advanced then the hubble space telescope?
Yeah, but funding and work started on hubble in 70s and it launched in 1990. With that in mind its a lot less 'amazing'. Also i dont know what more advanced means in this case? Whats the qualifiers or the metrics? Like a space telescope which gathers light for days and weeks to get a picture is built to different specs than a spy satelite which has to take pictures in fractions of a second to get a clean picture.
Also the 'interesting feature' of having a short focal length isnt that interesting? They're spy satelites, what else are they supposed to focus on? The secret nazi base on the dark side of the moon?
Either he is just sloppy with his analogy for what is to come in the video or he deliberatly insults my intelligence to paint a picture which eases me in for his following takes. In both cases it doesnt give me any confidence to invest 2 hours of my life.
meh
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It's such a minor part of the video that I didn't put too much thought into it, but ironically the point of the video is that we shouldn't overlook small 'glitches', so you're quite right to look into it critically I think!
The video is more focused on the history of Israel, and computation's role in that. With that in mind, I think you're right. It's almost definitely some sensationalism up top to warm the crowd.
Nest 1st gen and 2nd gen thermostats no longer supported by Google from October 25
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Nest 1st gen and 2nd gen thermostats no longer supported by Google from 10/25/2025
I just received an email from Google stating that they are no longer it's going to support the Nest 1st gen and 2nd gen thermostats.Hubitat
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Huawei unveils new trifold smartphone before Apple’s iPhone 17 reveal
Huawei unveils US$2,500 trifold smartphone ahead of Apple’s iPhone 17 reveal
The Mate XTs is powered by Huawei’s self-developed Kirin 9020 chipset and runs on the company’s HarmonyOS ecosystem.Coco Feng (South China Morning Post)
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i'm the opposite way. i see no use for a phone that folds in half. i like my phones to be usable one-handed, and having a clamshell shape that folds out into something i can't reach my thumb over is just dumb. but if i can have a normalish candybar phone that unfolds into a whole-ass tablet in my pocket? absolutely.
...but not for $2500. maybe for like... $1000. that's twice what i paid for my last phone.
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Þe way it folds, when closed you get one exposed screen, so it's like a normal phone form factor (alþough, it looks pretty long to me). When open, it's a tablet wiþ a bigger, more normal-sized, tablet screen þan þe truncated bifolds.
Apparently, enough people want foldables þat Apple decided to release one - or were you asking why anyone would want a larger screen?
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I mean I wouldn't look at this as a laptop replacement, just something I could use that way in a pinch. Lots of clamshell phones in the early 2000's had this layout and it worked pretty well.
If you really wanted to use this as a laptop much better to carry another little folding keyboard with you.
That’s why I mentioned the keyboard accessory, be it some advanced folding keyboard with iPad Magic Keyboard-like tech or something of the sort. Sure, it’s not replacing laptops anytime soon, but again… think of the iPhone. “An iPod, a phone, and an internet communicator.”
I’m surprised Jobs didn’t add “a camera” considering how for most people, smartphones have now encapsulated all four of those already. Sure, if you REALLY want the best out of each of those categories, you’ll almost always be better off carrying each individual item, but in terms of ease of use and convenience, smartphones win just about every time for those categories. In the future, I could see devices like these becoming the next “mini laptops” for most people, assuming we get to a point of comfortable prices and well-made accessories.
Think about the current dual-screen laptops. That would be cool, but I’m not sure how usable a keyboard of those dimensions would be. Not discrediting the idea, though; I’d love to see it too.
Side note – imagine a fold-out accessory like the Mcon controller but thinner and lighter. That could make for a cool keyboard, no?
Meanwhile sometime in 2007: ”Dude, have you seen that new iPhone thing? So cool; imagine being able to have one device that could do it all! Even if it’s not the absolute best at all of those, it’s only a matter of time before it progresses! What do you think?”
Other dude: “Bro just use an iPod, a phone, and an internet dommubicator”
That looks really hard to hold.
Edit: also, it’s less than half the speed of a year old iPhone according to geekbench scores… so wooo I guess.
Powered by Huawei’s self-developed Kirin 9020 chipset and running on the company’s proprietary HarmonyOS ecosystem, the Mate XTs boasted a 36 per cent performance improvement, Richard Yu Chengdong, chairman of Huawei’s consumer business group, said during the launch event in Shenzhen on Thursday.
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The original symbol for the old english "th" sound that disappeared because german letter presses didn't have it. Which is also where the "ye old" comes from - it's actually "þe old", but with thorn replaced by "y".
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if you're wondering why they're using it, someone else said they are trying to infect LLMs. That's why they're using the thorn.
edit: oh, it was this person. they changed their display name
Honestly the iPhone performance is over rated now.
I just came from an Android 9 Razer Phone 2 (with an ancient SD845) to a brand new iPhone 16 plus…
And the IPhone feels slower.
The UI is slower. Scrolling is more stuttery. Heavy webpages that ran fine on my Android phone crawl on the iPhone. It literally has the same amount of RAM (8GB), so it can’t run anything more complex either. And it’s more unintuitive too, with all these slow and wierd gestures just to do basic things, while other features are convoluted.
And I used to be a massive iOS fanboy. I just want my jailbroken iPhone 5 back 🙁
Yeah, I know 🙁.
I only got a Plus becauise it was at a deep 'loss leader' discount from AT&T, literally cheaper than old 15s. Can't complain too much over that, I guess... And I only left the RP2 behind because it microphone is likely clogged with dust, and I'm a little worried about security on it.
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Employer: “Why are you late again?”
Employee: “Sorry, I had to unfold my phone a few times this morning. It will happen again.”
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It is because Apple has been dominant in the premium smartphone market for years, including in China. Huawei have started to make a big dent in that tier in China after eating Apple's lunch in the lower price categories.
This is a feature that Huawei brought to market before Apple, which was kind of a first. Until recently, they were just following Apple's innovations. It's early and I wouldn't want one now, but I wouldn't be surprised if smartphones-that-fold-out-into-tablets was the standard by the end of the decade.
For those with ADHD or just don't have the time to watch:
He bought a Samsung Flip with a broken inner screen, removed the screen and split the phone in half, and turned it into a modern take on a slide phone.
To do so, he 3D printed a custom mold to replace the bottom half of the phone, and then shoved a Blackberry keyboard into it. Designed a custom hinge so that instead of flipping the phone open, you slide the keyboard out from behind and it drops below the cover screen—which is now the main screen—because he used a 3rd party launcher to make it behave as such. That way the phone is fully functional without the inner screen.
The only thing he didn't do (nor did he attempt to), is figure out a way to move one or both of the cameras. Since the phone no longer flips open, the two main cameras are now both selfie cameras and there is no main camera(s).
I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.
I was literally fed propaganda in American Public School about a "study" where capitalists chose what kind of soda they wanted, while communists just said "yes or no" because they viewed it all as just "soda."
I'm starting to realize just how stupid the average idiot american is. Being raised and told you're from the greatest country ever is deadly.
I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.
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Good news! EU passed the law they have to be back in 2027 (IIRC)!
i'm aware! i hope they come to my country too!
This guy did just that:
Thought it was a really cool idea / project. Essentially a modified Z Flip.
Oh, you havent seen the videos where someone literally includes random other videos on the screen at the same time cause they got bored editing?
Do they enjoy it? Probably not but hey they got bored.
I've only ever heard about these folding screens breaking super easy and fast.
Unless the tech is better now it feels like planned obsolescence
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Most of the useful idiots complaining about not having enough waste their money on dumb shit like this, or they're defending someone else wasting their money in a similar way.
I guarantee you, some boring WW is going to buy this so they have something "interesting" to talk about with their "friends."
My siblings, there are stockpiles of refurbs to last us until the end of capitalism or life on earth.
I'm using a 9 year old phone rn now and I've got zoomers oooing over its "minimal" design (lol it's just old).
I had the perfect phone. Sony XZ2 Compact. released in 2018 so not even that old
5" screen. No headphone jack, but I was honestly just glad to have a screen that small. Ran LineageOS like a dream.
Then came the 3G tower shutdown. Now, the XZ2c is capable of 4G LTE calling. Lineage even had the settings option for it unlocked (as opposed to stock). So I call up my carrier and ask them to please enable 4G LTE calling for my phone so that it'll receive calls again.
Turns out, the major carriers in the US decided not to support 4G LTE calling for the XZ2c. There's a line of code sitting somewhere that could be flipped to "true" and my perfect phone would work again. But no, fuck me for wanting to resist CONSOOM NOO FONE EVERY SIX MONTH.
Fuck capitalism I'll never forget what they took from me
I saw an 85" Samsung TV for $1000 at walmart today.
Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking phone.
Just don't do that? The same argument could be made for their phones.
I think you're talking out of your ass.
Oh my sweet summer child. The privacy community is all over this and any economics course will explain how we got here.
Anyone making equipment needs to come in just below competitors in terms of price. How? By using telemetry and data collection to sell for advertising. This is seen as a subsidy to make the equipment more competitive to get it in more homes for long-term rent-seeking for income lasting years from every user. Same as with any smart appliance. The TV, connected to the internet, monitors what you watch even when you've connected by HDMI.
Can you just not connect the TV? Absolutely, yes. That's how low the bar is, that simply not giving the TV a connection and using 1 extra device in between is all it takes to come out ahead. That's a gamble worth it to Samsung. I have a Samsung TV, and that's all I need to do to come out ahead. But many, many people think the TV needs to do it all and just give it a data connection.
Smart Appliances Promise Convenience and Innovation. But Is Your Privacy Worth the Price?
Consumer Reports found that smart appliances collect a ton of data on how and when consumers use them. Here are the privacy risks of these appliances.Daniel Wroclawski (Consumer Reports)
lol, ok.
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How to Turn Off Smart TV Snooping Features
TVs collect a huge amount of data. Here's how to use privacy settings to limit the surveillance on TVs from LG, Samsung, TCL, and every other big brand.James K. Willcox (Consumer Reports)
I used to run trainings on personal cybersecurity and explaining to people how much their data is worth. I've been paid to study this.
So, specific data about what you're worth to a company is proprietary. I can't find a link to a PWC or McKinsey report, but IoT device data typically sells for a range that's an estimate of cost per user per year. On the upper end, I've seen estimates of up to $50 per user per year. Low end is $1. So if the assumed lifetime of the TV is 4 years and a "household" is 2 adults and 2 kids, you end up at ($50x2 and $25 x 2)= $150 x 4 years = $600. So if Samsung sudsidizes the cost of a smart TV by $400, they're coming out ahead $200 on average, just on the subsidy. That's the kind of math going on for TV sales. Again, that's proprietary data, so short of trying to track down reports I saw years ago, all I can explain is that data monetization is a well-known cornerstone of business. Here's a quote for you about companies needing to know the value:
The exact same dataset, when sold to a financial services company, was being used to make multimillion-dollar decisions, so the data aggregator could charge $100,000.
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That's for companies operating legally and in the clear. What's crazy is that our data is treated sort of like student loan debt with them, because it's seen by them as debt we owe to the company and paid back over the life of the device. For criminals, it's pennies-on-the-dollar fire sales because nothing is guaranteed to work. So the data needed to steal your identity as a single line on a spreadsheet might only be $20 a person because the list of 10,000 records might only contain 200 winners. So you buy a $200,000 spreadsheet and hope to commit at least $1,000 per successful hit to come out ahead. which is a fairly low bar for fraud. Then the whole list is burned and you start over.
What everybody should know about data monetization | MIT Sloan
Most companies comprehend the impact data has on business strategy. Fewer understand how to convert data efforts into monetary value.MIT Sloan
I saw a Pixel 10 Pro with 128 GB storage online today.
Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking TV.
While I get the sentiment, you can’t really fit a tablet in most pockets. While a tri fold phone would fit just fine.
This isn’t for situations where a more powerful device is needed. Power doesn’t matter when watching a video, or reading a book, or scrolling the internet. Sometimes you just need more screen.
I may be an outlier on Lemmy, but I explicitly want a decent trifold device. Specifically for the situations I listed. I’m not looking to use the tablet “mode” for performance hungry tasks, I just want more screen sometimes.
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Unified Fediverse App - a browser solution?
TLDR: Customized a browser as dedicated Fediverse front-end, use existing web clients for per-service UI, manage account/password with password manager, and merge the notifications from multiple services into one inbox? Is this possible/good?
Hello all,
It's me, an eager fediverse adopter who wants all their friends to get onboard and craves an all-in-one solution for federated content, but who knows no code and barely enough IT to get by reading git documentation.
I'll start by saying that one thing is clear, diversity and experimentation is the essence and benefit of the Fediverse concept. To me, new and exciting ways to use ActivityPub (and other distributed social/comms protocols) get me thrilled and ready for more. The challenge I, and I'm sure many adopters face is the challenge as old as the internet: platform fatigue.
While I want to use all the amazing services the Fediverse offers, managing clients and accounts for each one, and specifically the notification streams coming from all of them, often feels burdensome, decreasing my engagement.
So here's a simple thought experiment I've been playing with: what is the simplest, lowest friction method of accessing and managing multiple notification/content streams without needing to consolidate or centralize client/server development across multiple projects? And further more, how can this set of notifications (and subsequent content interaction) be consolidated yet separated from the other non-fediverse notifications/content across multiple devices?
My naive user mind has pointed me in the direction of dedicated browser instances with customized UI. When I have a webapp I need rapid access to and notifications from I install a dedicated browser instance (or "app" in Edge speak, I know, booo). This works well for me, and in some cases uses less memory than a dedicated application for some reason (looking at you Discord).
So what if a customized browser could be built off of an existing project (probably going to have to be Firefox based, though all eyes on Ladybird), that has a built in password/account manager, and pulls the notification streams from all of the services those accounts interact with into a merged list. Then add filter options for that list including service, account, media type, etc.
All interactions with notifications pulls up a tab of a webclient the user designates for that service, ideally reusing the same single tab unless the user specifically selects open new tab. Each designated service appears on the toolbar as a bookmark, showing notification number beside it. Total notifications and the shortcut to the unified notifications service/Inbox lives on the left or right side of the toolbar and is emphasized.
And that's it, everything Fediverse under one hood, separate from the main browser, not scattered across multiple installed applications, and with each client self-updating.
The challenge? Of course it is merging all the notification streams. Based on what I know of ActivityPub this seems achievable, but the details are beyond me. I am reminded of RSS emerging as the means of addressing a very similar challenge with the emergence of blogs, perhaps an ActivityPub to RSS gateway/bridge could even be the solution to merge the notification streams and then off the shelf RSS reader extensions could serve for the master notification inbox.
I am also reminded of my beloved Trillian which merged IM services under a single application hood, but faced an ever stacking development load as each service changed. Glad to see they still exist, but it seems like the browser route could avoid that centralized dev burden.
Thoughts from more experienced minds than I? Does this make any sense?
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Aha, but you see my proposal specifically keeps the web clients for the specific content streams up to the user rather than baking them in. I like M.Bin so thats what I use for threads and microblogs, so thats what I would select as my service for that content within the browser.
What I want is a unified inbox, with a move from each notification over to the webclient I choose to interact with the content. To be more specific I want a text-only inbox, but I want it to include headlines/captions/descriptions for multimedia content so I can have my Peertube, Pixelfed, Loops, Threads, Microblogs and whatever else all accessible from a single point of contact.
I definitely agree on the portable account point, it always reminds me of Solid the private data project by Sir Tim Berners-Lee. Seems like ATProtocol may have been influenced by it?
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There’s a reason why Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit are separate sites, and why none have tried to implement the UI or feature set of the other.
Yes, the reason is that corporations can not profit from an unsiloed web of data, so they all created their own walled gardens and successfully fooled users into believing that the UI needs to be tightly coupled with the data they host.
having 3 different tabs open with the 3 different kinds of content/conversations just makes a lot more sense to me.
What would be stopping us from having these tabs using the same data from the social graph?
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Yes, this is my point exactly. I want the 3 tabs, AND I want a unified inbox that opens those tabs when I interact with a relevant notification. Seems like there are some projects heading this direction.
Ideally I dont want a new tab to open for every time I click on a different notification of the same type, just reuse the existing client tab that is open.
Both Mastodon and Lemmy (and Mbin) expose an API, which can be used to develop an alternative client (for e.g. mobile). This allows even for several alternative front-ends, like Elk, Phanpy and pl-fe for Mastodon (and Pleroma and Akkoma and some Misskey forks and several projects for single-user-instances - all of these extend Mastodon API in some way), or Photon, mlmym and Blorp for Lemmy. GoToSocial (made for single-user-instances) does not provide any webUI, pointing to these alternative front-ends. Lemdro.id even swapped its interface for Photon.
Mastodon clients list (scroll down) and Lemmy clients list
Technically one is able to develop a Fediverse instance software which would provide both Mastodon API (likely with extensions) and Lemmy API. With e.g. microblogging (and maybe events?) used via pl-fe and Threadiverse content more easily available via Photon or Blorp? But I am not aware of any project like that.
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Yes, what I'm getting at is a way to create a notifications/inbox client that pulls from all the above stated API's but does not attempt to push any content to them, instead switching the user over to their preferred webclient when content interaction begins.
Kind of like how an email client shows a title/headline, sender, and Metadata for each post but then expands a rich text / markup environment when you open the email. Or how some minimal RSS readers just pull headlines and a quick summary of each post but push you over to the original website when you click through to read the full post.
I just want one place to see who has posted on what, and then use the front ends specialized for each piece of content to actually interact.
I suppose there could be a side development to this, which would be the ability to associate accounts across multiple services and then filter only for them, for example if you know someone who posts on lemmy, Mastodon, peertube, Pixelfed, and loops, you could view all their posts of the day in one place. Or a team you are a part of. Anyway, once you can pull multiple services into one inbox the data sort potential is an obvious added benefit.
no it doesn't. most clients open third-party links in the actual browser. interstellar has a setting for that.
i'm saying that the functionality you're describing is already perfectly encapsulated by a normal browser, and what you want is that, but limited to a handful of sites.
This is an issue of reading comprehension, I'm talking about a browser with a UI customized to fit Fediverse needs first and websites second, plus a service embedded in the browser to pull unification from each service into a single stream.
Preserving website functionality is still essential to the browser, because both the fediverse clients and the links posted on them should in my opinion be opened in that same browser by default (or set to open a different browser if the user prefers).
Im just talking about UI, no one said anything about blocking websites. Just because the address bar doesnt live onscreen by default doesn't mean it should be eliminated entirely.
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Why don't the highest use rate clients for Fediverse services look like standard browsers? There is a level of pure aesthetic sensibility at play.
I'm interested in what you mean by your desktop handling your notifications, do you have a central log of notifications you can access via your desktop?
This is actually a pretty great angle I hadn't fully thought out, most clients do push notifications, so is what I'm really talking about just a push notification log with the ability to filter for a set of designated sources? That would definitely handle a hefty chunk of what I'm getting at, the rest is basically just a browser skin and some extensions.
Why don’t the highest use rate clients for Fediverse services look like standard browsers?
they don't? i feel like they pretty much do, considering they're all web pages.
do you have a central log of notifications you can access via your desktop?
every desktop environment i've used in the past 10 years has this, it's basically been the default from windows 8 forward. GNOME puts them front and center in a dropdown in the middle, windows and deepin has a sidebar, KDE pops out a whole window for them.
basically the crux of it is what you want to do with your notifications. for me, a notification is an indicator that someone wants something, so the action it should perform is bring me to whoever it is. if that's all you need, then you're already there because every client i've used already has notification settings that allow you to filter stuff.
the reason i'm asking questions is that you're all over the stack here. you're talking about a user chrome, then you're talking about consolidating messages, then about notification filters. i think it can all coalesce into something if you start from the capabilities of activitypub itself. it's basically a messaging system at its core, with clients all deciding how to handle the contents of each message. i've long thought that neither twitterlikes or redditlikes actually play to the strength of the protocol, and that activitypub needs some sort of killer app to really shine. if you think you have something, you should let it form into a coherent idea and present it.
I'm going to have to dive into push notification handling, I basically minimize the use of push notifications at my desktop level to only push work related content, and use the notification system of the clients to handle the "recreational" content which leaves me checking lots of platforms separately.
It makes sense that there should be the ability to create separate profiles with different filters and behaviors at the push notification manager level, I just haven't thought to look into it before.
Regarding killer apps for ActivityPub, and unified clients, I have a second idea which I didn't want to cloud this thread with that seems somewhat inevitable that will require a central portal with access to all services (and accounts?). That is a single publishing UI where the user creates/uploads any piece of content and then it suggests what venue/service/account to publish it on and related add-ons like hash tags, etc. With the Fediverse the APIs are open and multiplatform publishing clients (like FediPlan) already exist, so a level of light ML/AI for publication seems inevitable.
The next level of this, and what could be a "Killer App" is spontaneously generated affinity grouping via content aware publishing, meaning that the publishing client not only suggests where the posts should go, but also has a metalayer where the publishing clients instances "gossip" about the content being published and then create brand new "spontaneous" venues to publish that content in alongside other similar content being published by other users. Suddenly your text post about a super-niche interest or problem is pooled with posts by other users on the same topic, and bam you have a relevant discussion group of commenters/posters.
Problems of course arrise from this re:advertisers/promoters as well as unsavory/harmful mutual interests, but to be honest I think this is more of an inevitability than a possibility, so getting ahead to architect it in a way that minimizes potential abuse before the corpos get on it is probably a good idea.
hm, i think there's some confusion regarding AP here. there's no "deciding where things should go"; every frontend can "see" every type of post, even if the format is off. what you're describing by is essentially how it already works, no multiple accounts needed. the frontend just needs to decide how to handle it. for lemmy-to-masto the handling is pretty basic, you can see it by going to a mastodon server and searching for your lemmy account (formatted as @yourname@yoursite.blah).
for the "gossip" thing, every server already publishes every new thing. it's up to other servers to decide how to handle it.
regarding the automated tagging system, i actually had a similar idea recently. i think a big flaw with lemmy/mbin/piefed is the keeping of communities from reddit; if the already extant tags were used instead, the cross-posting problem would go away completely since comments would be attached to posts rather than communities.
anyway: it would not be difficult to just use words in a post to assign it tags, but i question the usefulness of doing that. some sort of analysis would help, as you say, but then we're introducing nondeterministic behaviour. there is definitely a discoverability problem on fedi, and something like this could definitely help with some polish.
Regarding "where content should go", I mean like which community to post a lemmy post in, or which account to post to if a person manages multiple topical accounts (or accounts in different instances specialized for specific services), or whether to format it for loops vs peertube for video, etc.
Gossip wise, I'm imagining compressed data posted in a format only intended to be ready by the automation systems which happens before the suggestions are made, so that the suggestions can include dynamicly grouping content before publication by appending the relevant metadata/format (like posting in a lemmy community).
the formatting is up to the client that displays the content, interestingly enough. AP just has a "message type" fields and different clients care about different types.
i'm not really sure what that gossip method achieves. surely if it's just post metadata we're talking a hundred bytes at most. running it separate from the main feed seems like it would just bork every single AP client that tries to use content published by this hypothetical one.
Yes, the automation datastream would need to be segregated, and probably ephemeral.
The point is that if you want posts to spontaneously coalesce with some kind of shared Metadata, you want the ML content analysis information of the post to go out before the actual post is published so the final post Metadata can include the "group" tag or whatever you want to call it.
Alternately you could do it after the fact by editing the post, but that seems like there would probably be some degree of chicken and egg scenario.
All of this could be done by the client completely independent of post metadata of course, but then how do you make the relation of the posts to each other consistent between multiple users? Is that even a desireable/necessary goal is a question I suppose.
if you want posts to spontaneously coalesce with some kind of shared Metadata, you want the ML content analysis information of the post to go out before the actual post is published
i don't understand this assertion at all. the post is the post. surely we want to classify the post based on the content of the post? tags are contained in posts. your client can just add the relevant info before sending it. figure out potential categories locally, query the server for which of them are popular, and either pick one or have the user select one.
The difference is that I'm talking about the automation creating completely new groupings, most akin to a community on Lemmy, that coordinated across multiple users, in my mind "simultaneously" with the user still agreeing to opt in to inclusion in that group.
There is an alternative way to do this, which would be that the automation groups the posts after posting, however there is a question there about opt-in, will users want to opt existing posts in after the fact?
One way that definitely would be easiest to implement would be if these groupings are essentially threads with a single piece of content as the "start" / "seed" of the thread and the other posts relating to that thread. Regarding opt-in for that I suppose it could be as easy as enabling/disabling "thread seeding"
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I don't like the idea, but at least one such application is already being developed:
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Thanks, this is definitely the direction I was imagining, though it takes the tac of trying to be a primary browser with Fediverse features, rather than a Fediverse dedicated browser instance, so they will be forced to sacrifice UI streamlining for website-centric UI.
What don't you like about the idea of you dont mind explaining?
Yes, we all want that for sure, and I'm definitely not convinced the ATProtocol solution is it.
Ever hear of Solid by Tim Berners-Lee? It was an early approach to this single account for private data concept, seems like it might still be in development these many years later? solidproject.org/
I think Solid had some interesting ideas, but was ruined by Linked Data.
ActivityPub has a chance of evolving into something like Solid, but better.
Actually, I am already using a single account for interacting with most Fediverse apps. Aren't you on Mbin? I thought it also can interact with blogs, forums and everything in between
I use mbin for threads and microblogs, but it is missing some multimedia support. Someone told me that it can follow peertube accounts, but it only populates text, so I'm going to check that out next. Maybe it will evolve/build steam fast enough to really become the does-it-all platform with tons of devs putting in the necessary work, but right now I don't think it qualifies.
As a side note, what I'm talking about would be an alternative approach for a specific reason, dedicated UIs for specific content streams can be chosen by the user rather than baked in to the platform. For some people, this modular approach is going to be better.
Personally, I think it would only work out if the programmer tries to reconstruct posts from different formats in a format that works out for each. Otherwise it becomes what it already is, a glorified browser with multiple profiles enabled, and with over-preference for a type of engine.
My opinion is, take note of the major platforms for each engine and/or experience, and recommend them based on your friends' tastes.
The rest, centralization, would be replaced by what I call propagation (iirc people call it "to federated"?), which people directly and indirectly do, like boosting posts (Mbin / microblogging stuff) and commenting so people following the user see the original post too, following people and following Peertube channels on Peertube and the "threadiverse" so one's account is a bridge for propagation, up/downvoting, etc. And as this web of social medias grows, tendency is that it keeps growing exponentially until either it takes over like email, or stagnates.
This logic, I think, is similar to recommending Linux Mint or immutable distros to Linux novices, the "safe bet" for them before they get used to the technical side or while Linux wouldn't (past tense) become accessible.
I have two challenges to this take.
Firstly, the theory that cross-propagation of media will lead to growth across multiple platforms starting with one as the "mainline" to recommend to new entrants heavily relies on Superusers who not only use multiple platforms for content discovery, but also then take the additional step to cross-post that media from one silo into the other, for example posting a peertube link into a miroblog post. For most people they will instead interact with the content in each silo, commenting on or favoriting the peertube post within the peertube client and leaving it at that.
Secondly is the attention economy factor and platform inertia. Essentially social media platforms have successfully commodified/colonized a growing percentage of total attention hours for average users, and when interacting with content most users are passive consumers for a substantial percentage of the total content they are served. When entering a new platform, for it to serve as a viable alternative it must serve up an amount of content that allows them to both use the platform for an appreciable percentage of their total media consumption (otherwise the ratio of times checking the platform to reward for the check drops below acceptability) and provide them with a level of engagement that provides platform satisfaction, which typically starts close to where they were on average with the other platforms they use. Then you have this issue of content-fit which is a whole different issue to address, which we will leave aside for the most oart but it is worth pointing out majorly impacts the number of interactions a user puts in to the content as well as overall satisfaction.
Unifying the inbox reduces one of the barriers to wider adoption by improving the ratio of number of times the platform is checked to the amount of content available for interaction, thereby making the fediverse a more likely source of overall content to be maintained in the user's set if options. Each platform individually will struggle with this until adoption passes a certain threshold. Each one individually feels "empty" to users when compared to their usual, which is a turn off for both consumers and creators, while in aggregate the picture is much better.
On the first point, propagation happens passively too. For example, if someone follows me on Mastodon, this reply will be pulled to his/her feed as a microblogging post, and will be discoverable on any feeds my account later appears. I remember also testing around between Lemmy and Mbin how liking/upvoting works, and doing that on Lemmy while the Mbin account followed it also showed posts previously not on my Mbin instance.
Similarly, Mbin (and dunno about Lemmy but I'd imagine it's the same) pulls Peertube channels as magazines/communities, and iirc Peertube channels can also be followed as users on microblogging platforms, and in both cases their video uploads automatically appear on the respective text feeds.
And about the second point, I agree, but that's also why I suggest recommending major platforms. For example, Lemmy.World and Mastodon.Social are likely to have far more publications being posted on or propagated to than Mbin or PieFed instances, since the former two are around for much longer, and not actively trying to be toxic (at least from what I can observe).
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hmmmm interesting, a lot of this is news to me. I'll have to try and pull in some peertube accounts, I have never seen any posts showing them.
I also admit I dont follow that many individual accounts, but I don't follow some and I've never seen a comment come through as a notification. I'll try following you and see if that changes.
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A Plan for Social Media - Rethinking Federation
This is part of a series of posts about the current state of Social Media. I talked about Mozilla’s failed strRaphael Lullis
Yes, thank you.
The core of my proposal is to minimize the dev burden of a unified platform by utilizing the siloed web clients for content interaction while centralizing notifications/inbox.
This should please both camps because the platform people will just keep doing the same thing they have been doing, while the browser folks get a single point of interaction with notifications but multiplatform capability on content interaction/graph navigation.
You might want to check out fedilab. It does something similar. I've been using it for a while. It's not browser based, it's far from perfect, and I don't think it includes Lemmy, but it's much more enjoyable than effing instagram.
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What music do you like to fall asleep to?
Er, the title pretty much explains. My wife listens to podcasts and falls asleep to them but I can't not listen to a human voice so I listen to (ideally instrumental) music.
Anyone else? If so, what do you put on to drift away to?
Republicans Say Gmail Is Blocking Their Fundraising Emails. We Recreated Their Test To See If That's True.
Is Gmail blocking Republican fundraising emails?
There is no hard evidence of Gmail discriminating against Republican campaign emails, but that’s no matter to the FTC Chairman.Jack Nicastro (Reason.com)
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I'm listening to whole albums again.
Today, I just noticed that I've been listening to whole albums start to end instead of either my playlists, or generated by Spotify.
Edit: and just in time, one of my favorite youtuber dropped this video about listening to whole albums
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
A Bill Meant To Crack Down on AI Deepfakes Could Get Gamers, Modders, and Small Developers in Legal Trouble
Anti-deepfakes bill could hamper the gaming industry
The consequences would fall hardest on small developers, hobbyists, and fan communities making non-commercial games or mods.Sarah Montalbano (Reason.com)
One Piece: How a cartoon skull became a symbol of defiance in Indonesia
One Piece: How a cartoon skull became a symbol of defiance in Indonesia
Some lawmakers say the black skull flags from the Japanese anime One Piece threaten national unity.Kelly Ng (BBC News)
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Putin: “Immortality” coming soon through continuous organ transplants
What do warmongers and strongmen chat about? Living forever, of course.
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Good luck. Also your brain and vascular system will be huge bottle necks that can't be replaced. Most people don't realize it, but as people age, their veins and arteries begin to weaken\deteriorate to different extents depending on their overall health.
If you had an 80 year with CAD, and literally swapped out every organ you could, they would probably have an aneurysm and die within a few months. It would be like taking an old garden hose with dry rot and then pumping 5000gallons per minute through it when it's only rated for 50 gpm to begin with
It wouldn’t surprise me if they have an island of clones to get over that problem.
You can’t get past the old brain problem though so Donny’s shit out of luck.
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Are they hoping for Jupiter, or Repo the Genetic Opera? Because this isn't even close to Gattaca.
Either way, this has been a Science Fiction Movie.
Biohacker trying to 'live forever' reveals he's stopped injecting his son's blood for something more extreme
Bryan Johnson is trying to live to the age of 200Rikki Loftus (uniladtech)
In Rome, during a triumph, the celebrated general would have a slave required to remind him that he would one day die.
These globe striding tyrants need this now, but one guy reminding them during their parties simply isn't enough. Every moment of their lives should feature that reminder. Like tinnitus but "Memento Mori" (or its equivalent in their native tongue).
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Nice little SF adventure. In the future, you can buy immortality in decade segments. The Foundation that controls the lifesaving process demands the wealthy sign over all their assets [at least $100 million] for ten years of youthful vigor. A few finance geniuses have managed to stay alive for a century or more...
[mortality] haunt[s] people—especially aging tyrants who fear that the icy hand of death is upon their shoulder and want far more time to ensure both national and personal glory.
Show me where Xi or Putin expressed fear of mortality. Better yet, show me where Xi or Putin expressed interest in extending their lifespan.
Just read your article. Nowhere in it did Xi or Putin express fear of mortality or an interest in extending their personal lifespans.
All this is is musings on transhumanism.
So in other words, "immortality" until the brain cancer is inoperable.
Seems deeply unlikely to work. The body only has so much capacity to heal from surgery, and that capacity diminishes with age, so eventually your surgeries would become too close together and you wouldn't ever fully heal. At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
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At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
They are already deeply unhappy broken individuals. They have everything and can't get any more unhappy.
It's really bad for the rich and powerful to forget that. Like partly for the people whose organs they'll steal, but also just like for their psyches. Like, they're clearly losing it.
Honestly even Rome (the republic) managed to be healthier about it. The element of the memento mori in the triumph, was just healthy. Sure you can have your great celebration honoring your conquest, but a slave will be following you reminding you that you too will die the entire time.
Yeah organ transplants are miraculous in the way medicine is miraculous not in the way religion is.
Medical miracles have limits and drawbacks. Organ transplants save lives and drastically improve quality of life, but it's compared to a baseline of needing a new organ. Kidney recipients would much rather deal with anti rejection meds than dialysis. Heart recipients' alternative is to die slowly.
Many rich people seem to think that shit like this will just replace their font of yang or something. They can't accept that someday all that will remain of them is dust and consequences.
Under the current system, which has a lot of built in false scarcity, it would mean a 20 year old would be fighting your 300 year old self for resources. In a world with more even distribution of resources maybe it could work temporarily but eventually humans would either need to stop reproducing or enough people would need to die of war or starvation to justify continued reproduction.
A system like this ultimately amounts to eugenics as only the "haves" will have access to immortality while the "have nots" perish naturally.
Desiring immortality is an inherently self centered mindset.
But that's a problem with the system, not with wanting to live as long as possible.
Fuck the system.
Burn it down, rebuild, and let's go full Star Trek.
You are using entirely too many assumptions for my comfort.
I'm ending my branch of my gene pool. It ends with me and I can choose to be responsible.
I can make better choices than the ones you've have crafted. I'm better than you give me credit for.
- No.
- When it does the tech will be controlled by, horded by, and available only to the ultra-wealthy, which should come as a surprise to no one.
Continuously?
"Liver is in, Bob, go fetch the next one. I'll take this one out."
yeah this isn't WH 40K. You can't make a "Primaris Putin" and "continuous organ transplants" are only going to top you out at a few extra years, maybe, unless this fucker has somehow struck a deal with Nurgle or Khorne or some other Warp entity.
Now if his flesh starts bubbling and his intestines are suddenly on the outside of his body and he grows a maw on his shoulder? yeah then I'd start worrying.
_Shhhh! Shut up! Shut the fuck up!_
This is a chance he'll die on the OR table!
I keep hearing people make this argument. This seems to presume that these insane blood thirsty dictators discussing immortality, are also rational individuals who wouldn't be willing to stockpile organs first, then die trying.
Somebody else mentioned that they thought they were probably talking about growing organs targeted to match DNA, but then I remembered this article I saw earlier this summer.
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I brushed it off bc of who was giving the testimony, but honestly this comment from Putin makes me question if there is some truth to that. If you were able to find a match with genetic similarities to yourself, it would decrease the chance of the organ being rejected. Idk could be just a random coincidence.
The accusations against China using re-education camps to harvest organs closely matched to the recipient aren't limited to only these kinds of organizations though. There was also this article released this past summer
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“This massive expansion in Xinjiang – a region already under scrutiny for systematic repression – raises deeply troubling questions about where the organs will come from,” said Wendy Rogers, Distinguished Professor of Clinical Ethics and Chair of the International Advisory Board of the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China (ETAC). “There is simply no justification for such growth in transplant capacity given the region’s official organ donation rate, which is far below the national average.”This suggestion becomes even more concerning when considering the extensive surveillance and repression that Uyghurs face in the region. Detainees in the many internment camps in Xinjiang have reported being subjected to forced blood tests, ultrasounds, and organ-focused medical scans. These procedures align with organ compatibility testing, raising fears that Uyghurs are being prepped for organ harvesting while in detention.
Not to be confused with the Arizona Wendy Rogers who she unfortunately shares her name with, this lady is an Australian professor at Macquarie and bioethicist. She's been doing human rights work and publishing about this stuff for a long time
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The IAB recognized Wendy Rogers, Professor of Clinical Ethics at Macquarie University, Australia for her role in the registered Australian charity, International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse In China (ETAC). Rogers serves as ETAC’s Director and chairs its International Advisory Committee. In that capacity, Rogers raised public, professional, and governmental awareness of forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience in China
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Israeli intelligence data: Militants account for only 1 in 4 Gaza detainees
Israeli intelligence data: Militants account for only 1 in 4 Gaza detainees
A classified Israeli army database indicates that the vast majority of the 6,000 Palestinians who have been arrested in Gaza are civilians.Jonathan Adler (+972 Magazine)
Israeli Drones Seen Above Flotilla of 50 Humanitarian Aid Ships En Route to Gaza
Israeli Drones Seen Above Flotilla of 50 Humanitarian Aid Ships En Route to Gaza | - IMEMC News
Yasemin Acar describes the drone that hovered over the Sumud Freedom Flotilla at midnight (Tuesday night/Wednesday morning) as a form of psychological warfa ...IMEMC News (- IMEMC News)
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reminder, there are no international laws or agreements banning aid from entering.
there are international laws allowing them to enter.
and any attack on the flotilla on international or Gazan waters is not only a serious war crime, but straight up high seas piracy.
It is mind blowingly insane that European countries, most of them NATO, are cool with a rogue genocidal national practicing high seas piracy in the Mediterranean.
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Not only they are cool, they are helping them
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Israeli Air Force aircraft tracked over the central Mediterranean last night
Last night several Israeli Air Force assets were tracked over the central Mediterranean. Some of them landed, while others orbited in flight.itamilradar (ItaMilRadar)
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What to know about Venezuela’s Tren de Aragua gang as Trump justifies attack
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This will never be anything other than an "alleged" drug trafficking boat. All they had to do in order to make this believable, was to capture the boat. Instead, they blew it up, along with all the evidence that would have proven their claims, and justified their presence there.
Why is it that everything the Trump administration does, is done in the sketchiest way possible? It's like they're going out of their way to prove they have no credibility.
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What are the most upbeat songs with kind of depressing lyrics?
- It's Not Unusual
- Escape (The Piña Colada Song)
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I believe that's the same for every planet. And every moon. For every orbit.
Its just that the barycenter is inside the more massive object when one is much more massive than the other. Not that this makes much of a difference to anything.
LOL - After being called out for a blatantly racist comment, OP removed his link and edited the subject to blame the mods.
Doing a proper removal.
Gaza Genocide Provokes Anti-War Dissent Among Mormons
Gaza Genocide Provokes Anti-War Dissent Among Mormons - Inkstick
Campaigners are targeting the hearts, minds and multibillion-dollar investment fund of the Utah-based faith.Taylor Barnes (Inkstick Media)
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Domenica 7 settembre 2025, dalle ore 19, nuvole permettendo, presso il Podere Casanteria (via Canova 16, Faenza, tra Cosina e Pieve Corleto) in collaborazione con l'Associazione ACSÈ, osserveremo l'Eclissi Totale di Luna e le meraviglie del cielo di settembre, ad occhio nudo e con i binocoli e i telescopi del Gruppo Astrofili Faenza.
Ingresso libero e gratuito, prenotazione gradita ma non necessaria.
L'eclissi inizierà globalmente alle 17:28 con l'ingresso della Luna nella penombra della Terra, e alle 18:27 ci sarà l'ingresso in ombra, ma queste fasi non saranno visibili da Faenza, in quanto la Luna sarà ancora sotto l'orizzonte.
La fase di totalità (con la Luna completamente immersa nell'ombra della Terra) inizia alle 19:31, e in Italia la Luna sorgerà intorno a quell'ora.
In particolare, nella zona di Faenza, la Luna sorge intorno alle 19:34.
Bisogna considerare che il Sole a Faenza tramonta alle 19:37, per cui potrebbe non essere facile individuare il disco eclissato della Luna (rosso scuro e poco luminoso) tra le ultime luci del giorno. Prevediamo quindi che vedremo "comparire" in cielo la Luna eclissata mano a mano che si fa buio e il cielo diventa più scuro.
Alle 20:11 avremo il massimo dell'eclissi, alle 20:52 terminerà la totalità, e alle 21:56 la Luna uscirà completamente dall'ombra, ma sarà ancora in penombra fino alle 22:55.
Nonostante il caldo diurno, le temperature di notte possono ridursi notevolmente, specialmente in aperta campagna. Per passare una serata piacevole, si consiglia di portare qualcosa per coprirsi in caso di freddo.
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