Feds Reportedly Sent a Predator Drone to Spy on LA Protesters
Feds Reportedly Sent a Predator Drone to Spy on LA Protesters
The government is busting out the big guns to surveil protesters, according to trackers.Lucas Ropek (Gizmodo)
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Documents reveal why Adrian Orr suddenly quit as Reserve Bank Governor
The Reserve Bank has revealed a dispute over funding was behind Adrian Orr's abrupt resignation as governor.A raft of documents - released by the central bank under the Official Information Act - reveal an "impasse" as Orr argued Finance Minister Nicola Willis was not providing enough funding for the next five years.
In an accompanying statement, an RBNZ spokesperson said it became clear in late February that the board - chaired by Neil Quigley - was willing to agree to a "considerably" smaller sum that Orr thought was needed.
"This caused distress to Mr Orr and the impasse risked damaging necessary working relationships, and led to Mr Orr's personal decision that he had achieved all he could as Governor of the Reserve Bank and could not continue in that role with sufficiently less funding than he thought was viable for the organisation."
Both sides engaged lawyers to negotiate an exit agreement, resulting in an immediate departure and "special leave".
On 5 March, the Reserve Bank revealed Orr's sudden resignation, with three years still to run in his five-year term. At the time, Quigley said it was for "personal reasons" but would not be drawn on any details
Documents reveal why Adrian Orr suddenly quit as Reserve Bank Governor
The Reserve Bank Governor resigned in March after seven years of service.RNZ News (RNZ)
[Republican] Senator’s ‘Send In the Troops’ Op-Ed in The Times Draws Online Ire
Senator Cotton is basically calling for mass murder of Americans:
The solution now is the same as I said then: an overwhelming show of force to end the riots.
Times Opinion Editor Defends Publishing Tom Cotton's ‘Send In the Troops’ Op-Ed
Staff members at the newspaper, including a Pulitzer winner, denounced an opinion essay by Tom Cotton, Republican of Arkansas, calling for a military response to protests.Marc Tracy (The New York Times)
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Toronto housing market just crossed a historic milestone amid market collapse
Toronto housing market just crossed a historic milestone amid market collapse
To anyone at all involved in Toronto's housing market, the only stat more alarming than the unanticipated crash in home sales across the region over …Becky Robertson (blogTO)
"localhost tracking" by Meta could cost them 32 billion
Meta pauses mobile port tracking tech on Android after researchers cry foul
: Zuckercorp and Yandex used localhost loophole to tie browser data to app users, say boffinsThomas Claburn (The Register)
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Palantir Exposed: The New Deep State [27:27 | JUN 10 2025 | Glenn Greenwald]
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/31160697
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- Main Topic: The video discusses Palantir Technologies and its increasing role in centralizing and managing US government data, raising concerns about privacy and potential abuse of power.
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- An executive order in 2025 aimed to eliminate information silos within the government, centralizing data access.
- Palantir is heavily involved in building databases for government agencies, including immigration enforcement (Doge project), the IRS, CDC and Homeland Security.
- The speaker draws parallels to the Patriot Act and post-9/11 surveillance expansions, arguing that justifications for data collection often lead to broader applications beyond the initial stated purpose.
- Concerns are raised about the lack of oversight and potential for misuse of centralized data by Palantir, a private company.
- The video highlights the historical context of Palantir's founding, linking it to the "Total Information Awareness" initiative and figures like John Poindexter.
- The speaker emphasizes the irony of a private company now holding the kind of data that caused public outcry when the NSA was revealed to be collecting it.
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- The Trump administration's motto: "Everyone is converting to Palantir."
- Palantir's involvement in managing sensitive data across multiple federal agencies, including health and financial information.
- The connection between Palantir's founders and the "Total Information Awareness" program.
- The comparison of Palantir's current role to the NSA's controversial data collection practices revealed by Edward Snowden.
- The video ends with a call for more attention to Palantir's activities and its potential impact on civil liberties.
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Snowden exposed Palantir?
You Americans really need some heroes. Snowden might have done some good, but as soon as things got hot he folded like a cheap lawn chair and openly supported russian genocidal imperialism.
I hope Snowden and his family (his wife and kid) meet the same fate as they wish for Ukrainians in internment camps in the occupied territories.
We've crossed it a long time ago.
Out of the ~1.6 million russian men who took part/are taking part (dead, wounded, currently fighting) in the full scale invasion of Ukraine, how many were children in 2014 when the invasion started?
While adults russians are clearly responsible, when are you fighting the russians you cannot put your head in the sand and wish away the fact that there is a ~65% chance a russian child will grow up as an open supporter of genocidal imperialism and another 20% chance (for a total 85%) that they will be supporters of imperialism but perhaps not open supporters of genocidal aims.
P.S. Just an FYI, standard critiques about polling numbers are not relevant here, as these numbers exclude preference falsification (i.e. someone being afraid to state their true view), the "nominal" results are even higher.
Ukraine, like many other countries, is being used as a pawn for the Western regime's agenda.
It seems like Western pro-war people are okay with continuing this war until the last Ukrainian is kidnapped and sent to the front lines so that the oligarchs can gain more natural resources and military contracts.
Propaganda really works on most Western people; Russiagate and Russiophobia are still seen as serious issues...
Even after we learned (Snowden leaks) that our governments lie to us so they can maximize their for-profit forever wars in the Middle East, now they are attempting to antagonize Iran and China.
You can fuck right off with your "pawn for the West", you tankie cockroach.
I live in Ukraine (I am originally from Donbas no less). Let's hope you end up in the Izolyatsia camp in occupied Donetsk oblast. You're word salad about "Ukraine being a pawn" isn't going to help you there. They are not going to care that you helped spread russian propaganda.
You don't speak Ukrainian, you've never lived in Ukraine and you have no clue what you are talking about.
Nice try, but that won't work with me.
Again with the desperate gatekeeping.
I will state again:
Ah, you also like to use Douglas Murray’s desperate attempts at gatekeeping what people can and can’t talk about.I have not been to Palestine, nor do I speak Arabic, but I fully support the Palestinian people, and I know what my country is doing is fully supporting a genocide.
I don’t need to visit a certain country or speak any language to be able to see what is really going on.
More forever wars where the working class is sent to die while the oligarchs sit back and take all the important resources.
I am not trying to convince you. Why did you even think I am trying to change your mind, isn't it clear from my tone that this is not the case?
I am just showing everyone how of full of shit you are.
I see him as a comedian with populist opinions and rants.
Feel free to post critical videos on the JD community; all are welcome.
Don't forget to have higher standards for politicians than for comedians.
The politicians (lackeys of oligarchs) are the ones with real power and influence to change our society for better or mostly for the worst.
All is well, peace.
What does this have to do with anything I said?
There are millions of people who fight freedoms all around the world and don't back down when the going gets tough.
Snowden immediately started supporting russian genocidal imperialism. Look at his posts pre full scale invasion in Jan and Feb 2022. Complete alignment with russian propaganda about how they are not going to invade.
Hope Snowden and his family (wife and child) get to experience what they wish for Ukrainians in russian internment camps in the occupied territories.
How did Snowden openly supported Russian genocidal imperialism?
Snowden is often criticizing Russian government and has shown no signs of working for them. Him being in Russia is because he is hunted by USA. If anything russia is supporting snowden
Snowden messaging is directly aligned with russian security services and their key propaganda narratives.
Look at his messaging before the full scale invasion; until the invasion he was distributing russian propaganda about how "the invasion is not happening" and some world salad about NATO and BATO.
He routinely promotes messaging supportive of russian imprialism and spreads known falsehoods.
Snowden does not critize the russian government. Don't lie.
What messaging, what are you talking about? He has been laying low for years. His latest interview was Jan31 and the only relevant thing is him denying working for Russia
Do you have any articles to back up "folding like an lawn chair","routinely promoting messaging supportive of Russian imperialism","spreading falsehoods"
Here is how you do it: Here is an article about Snowden criticizing Russian government. buzzfeednews.com/article/sheer…
So show us his "messaging" that is" directly aligned with russian security services and their key propaganda narratives". If he is promoting Russian propaganda you can find at least tweet that applies, right?
Is Edward Snowden Trying To Get Vladimir Putin's Attention?
In a series of tweets this week, Edward Snowden leveled unprecedented criticism of a Russian surveillance bill, calling it a "Big Brother Law."Sheera Frenkel (BuzzFeed)
I gave you a specific example. Do a search for his tweets before Feb 24 2022 regarding Ukraine. Note how he was parroting russian official channel claims that the full scale invasion is not happening and ridiculing US security services (that correctly predicted that it is happening). Now do a search for official russian statements on this issue for this period.
You can do the searching yourself or feel free to assume that I am lying in order to discredit your little angel.
Secondly do lookup on who he promotes and what kind of things they say about Ukraine. This includes individuals claiming that everyone in Ukraine are Nazis and that Russia invasion was justified by security concerns. Both messages are openly promoted but the russians.
I stand corrected, there is an example of him criticizing the russian government. Then again, this almost from 10 years ago.
I gave you examples from the last few years.
You didn't give me a specific example, you made me look it up. And when I looked it up I found a tweet with a wrong prediction that he said was wrong 10 days later.
Insulting me is not gonna change my opinion or anyone who reads this. Backing up your claims with something more than "look it up" maybe will.
No shit, he said he was wrong after the full scale invasion began. It would be very strange for him to claim that "the invasion" is not happening after russia invaded.
Before that he was openly parroting russian narratives about how US intel was incorrect and how the invasion wasn't happening.
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Many times. Want me to say it again? "Russia should not invade Ukraine."The reason I don't say it more is because it's a non-statement: everybody agrees with it, even Russians. The only people who think slogans solve the problem are people who don't understand the conflict.
Lying about russian attitudes. 85% (with adjustments for preference falsification) of russians support the annexation of Crimea; the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine.
15 Feb 2022
I want to see an end to the conflict in Ukraine, and frankly, I think all reasonable people share that position. The question nobody seems to want to contend with is whether amplifying official claims made without evidence are reducing hostilities, or are in fact provoking them.
3 Feb 2022
TIME paints here a very different picture of the Ukraine crisis, reporting that it is a drive to censor and criminalize the domestic political opposition—a drive encouraged by the White House—that has brought some to believe war is the only option.
He even uses the russian term "Ukraine crisis" and blames Ukrainians for russian aggression (ironic considering how "open" politics are in russia).
He routinely promotes Glenn Greenwald (who said all Ukrainians are Nazis) and David Sachs, both of whom are openly supportive of russian genocidal imperialism.
I highly doubt you'll change your opinion on Snowden. Generally speaking, it would be difficult for Snowden fanboys to admit that their hero isn't the paragon of virtue that they claim he is.
I agree, but don't forget how MSM and the duopoly treat whistleblowers, as well as the Russiagate smears.
Propaganda works; that is why so much money is involved in politics and media.
Any thoughts on Whitney Web?
From what I know, she seems to be a great investigative journalist who has spoken about the surveillance state, Palantir, Peter Thiel, Jeffrey Epstein, and what industries have ties to organized crime.
Here is her archived website:
1. Homepage: archive.ph/wip/BdzIu | unlimitedhangout.com/
2. Authors: archive.is/oVpM5 | unlimitedhangout.com/content-b…
3. Palantir: archive.ph/1CBxh | unlimitedhangout.com/?s=Palant…
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Whitney Webb has been a professional writer, researcher and journalist since 2016. She has written for several websites and, from 2017 to 2020, was a staff writer and senior investigative reporter for Mint Press News. She currently writes for The Last American Vagabond and hosts an independent podcast called Unlimited Hangout.Whitney has made numerous radio, television and video appearances, appearing on left-leaning programs like The Real News Network, Media Roots and The Zero Hour as well as right-leaning programs like The Tom Woods Show and The QTR podcast. Her work aims to highlight under-reported issues and find common ground between people of different political persuasions regarding corruption, government overreach, the lack of accountability for militaries and intelligence agencies and the military-industrial complex.
She is currently writing a book on the Jeffrey Epstein scandal based on her viral investigative series and has contributed to a soon-to-be available book on the Coronavirus Epidemic authored by former Congresswoman Cynthia McKinney. Whitney lives in Chile with her 2 year old daughter and her dogs, Worf and Sisko.^[[1] archive.ph/CFF74 | https://unlimitedhangout.com/about-me/]
Fuck Glenn Greenwald. He is a russian shill and supports russian genocidal imperialism.
I hope one day he meets the same fate as "Donbas cowboy", Russell Bentley:
Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
Vansyatsky and Agaltsev are suspected of blowing up a car with Bentley’s body in it and ordering Bazhin to get rid of what was left of his remains.
Russian Soldiers Charged With Involvement In American's Death
Russell Bentley, a Texas man who as the "Donbas Cowboy" gained notoriety for joining Russian-backed forces in eastern Ukraine, was tortured before being killed in the Russian-occupied Ukrainian city of Donetsk, Russian authorities said.Current Time (RFE/RL)
I understand why the highly emotional response; we all have our subject that is dear to us. Mine is the Palestine genocide that is funded and fully supported by my country, the United States.
Fuck Glenn Greenwald. He is a russian shill and supports russian genocidal
I would implore you to stop only consuming Western pro-war propaganda and check out people like Professor Jeffrey Sachs.
He outlines, in simple terms, the events that led to the war between Ukraine and Russia, as well as the Western push to also antagonize Iran and China.
Self-built echo chambers and self-censorship are not healthy, nor do they help our society; we must always be critical of our governments and the politicians (paid-off lackeys of the owner class, oligarchs).
Sashs and Greenwald are russian shills and support russian gencidal imperialism.
Neither of them speak Ukrainian or russian (and have never lived in Ukraine or russia) and are merely reciting russian propaganda narratives (at times directly sourced from russian security services).
There is a beautiful irony in you chimping out about "echo chambers" and self-censorship when you can't even read Ukrainian or russian.
If you could read russian, you would find that their doctrinal government writings on propaganda approaches (from the 90s no less) specifically cite idiots like you (it's something along the lines of the "useful idiot" term, albeit the texts go into more detailed descriptions) and shills like Sachs as a core area for foreign propaganda distribution.
Ah, you also like to use Douglas Murray's desperate attempts at gatekeeping what people can and can't talk about.
I have not been to Palestine, nor do I speak Arabic, but I fully support the Palestinian people, and I know what my country is doing is fully supporting a genocide.
I don't need to visit a certain country or speak any language to be able to see what is really going on.
More forever wars where the working class is sent to die while the oligarchs sit back and take all the important resources.
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- Word:, Palestine, Palestinian
Wonderful irony that you can't even get the term Palestinian right (the individual initially said Pakistani).
You are so concerned about the plight of the Palestinians, that you can't even state their nationality correctly. 🤣
I have to say, thank you for the entertainment!
There is a reason russian propaganda manuals explicitly cite individuals like you as a perfect vehicle for propaganda and undermining foreign countries.
You don't know jack shit about the Ukrainian or russian working class and about Ukrainian/russian oligarchs.
Can you name one Ukrainian oligarch without a web search? Russian ones should be easier, but I bet you would struggle to name three.
Having misspellings and typos is your concern...
Weird, but you do you.
FYI: You also edited your comment, but you did not mention the edit...
Also, being exposed to only Western propaganda is not the honor you seem to believe it is.
We can all come to certain conclusions without needing (your preferred boogeyman) making us a puppet, bot, or brainwashed.
Just check out the Uhuru movement:
[Legal Implications and First Amendment Rights] Uhuru Three FREED! [13:35 | DEC 18 24 | Sabby Sabs] lemmy.world/post/23366029
Nick Cruse and Chairman Omali From Uhuru Speak! Free Leonard Peltier! [31:27 | SEP 17 2024 | RBN] lemmy.world/post/19893659
I did edit it, but I didn't mistake Ukrainian for Uruguayan. I merely added some more content; how you can't cite a single Ukrainian or russian oligarch.
Confusing Pakistani and Palestinians is not a typo.
You clearly don't care about the Palestinians and are merely using them for your aesthetic purposes (extremely common among fake leftist Americans).
I am done here.
I am done here.
Thanks for the small chat!
We all get emotional; it is understandable. I hope we can unite on other topics.
Like fixing the systematic economic problem our societies face, that would be great.
All is well, Peace.
I would also like to say, fuck Glenn Greenwald.
And here is a better source on why fuck Palantir: Behind The Bastards
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It seems the divide and conquer strategy still works really well.
Glenn Greenwald is not a perfect person, but we cannot deny his great work as a journalist, his work with Snowden, and his continued integrity with his show, System Update.
Is the problem with him political tribalism, maybe due to him not supporting your preferred party (duopoly, blue or red team), or the distractions from the oligarchy (culture wars and identity politics, instead of focusing on addressing our society's systematic economic issues)?
I think he is worth uniting with.
“I would unite with anybody to do right and with nobody to do wrong.” – Frederick Douglass
Anyway, thanks for the link. I have heard of them, but I am not familiar.
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Part One: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy [01:11:59 | OCT 30 2025 | Behind the Bastards]
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Main Topic:
The video, "Part One: How Peter Thiel Became the Gravedigger of Democracy," explores the early life and formative experiences of Peter Thiel, aiming to understand the origins of his controversial political views and actions.
Key Points:
- Peter Thiel's Background: The hosts discuss Thiel's upbringing, including his birth in Germany, his family's move to Cleveland due to his father's work in the oil and gas industry, and a subsequent move to Namibia (Southwest Africa) where his father worked at a uranium mine during the apartheid era.
- Family Influences: The video touches on the differing accounts of Thiel's parents' political leanings (Republican vs. Christian conservatives) and the impact of a specific childhood conversation about death.
- Early Personality and Interests: Thiel is portrayed as an intelligent but somewhat isolated child who excelled academically, enjoyed chess, and was deeply immersed in fantasy literature like "The Lord of the Rings" and Dungeons and Dragons.
- Libertarianism and Anti-Communism: The video highlights Thiel's development of libertarian and anti-communist views, influenced by Ayn Rand and the political climate of Silicon Valley.
- Experiences with Bullying: The hosts discuss how Thiel was bullied as a child, which may have contributed to his misanthropic views.
- Emphasis on Education: The video emphasizes the pressure Thiel felt to succeed academically and attend a prestigious university.
Highlights:
- The discussion of Thiel's father's involvement with a uranium mine in Namibia during apartheid, drawing a parallel between Thiel's childhood and a "supervillain origin story."
- The anecdote about Thiel's intense reaction to losing a chess match, even a scrimmage, suggesting a deep-seated need to win.
- The characterization of Thiel as a "wizard" figure by his peers, someone who was admired but also seen as fundamentally separate and unknowable.
- The mention of Thiel's later-in-life interest in anti-aging research and technologies.
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I thought Glenn worked for Theil, is this video one of his slimy tricks? He said only elites fear Trump. That Bannon was a socialist. Even pretended to care about Palestinians, who are now being erased from existence.
Those just seem like smears from the duopoly (oligarch lackeys) loving apologetics (celebrity worshipper).
I wont watch the video. I have heard all I need to from that man.
The whole post and reason for it is about the video...
Weird people on forums hahaha.
I guess your reason for commenting on the post about a Glenn video is just to show how much you disagree with the way he thinks instead of your way of thinking.
All is well, thanks for commenting your disdain, peace.
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- Words, apoliticals to apologetics (celebrity worshipper)
I was curious about this and it turns out it is true. Greenwald is employed by Rumble (in a prominent position) which seems to be a video platform for pro-oligarch and pro-crime Americans.
Rumble is funded by Peter Theil and JD Vance.
He really is a lowest common denominator shill.
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This is some degenerate propaganda.
Turns out Greenwald works for Peter Theil (via Rumble).
It is likely Greenwald is likely to trying to have his cake and eat it. Extract money from both sets of marks.
You do know what being on a platform is?
YouTube is another platform where deals are made with creators.
Nice try with your propaganda, though.
Peace.
I don't agree with the way they think; it must be a boogeyman (bots, puppets, troll).
Self-built echo chambers and self-censorship are not healthy; we must be willing to continue learning from those that don't think like we do.
Peace.
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- Words, there -> it; added (bots, puppets, troll).
TLDW to TLDR…
A generated summary is included in the body.
I can't help you more than that; I thought I made it easy enough to know what the video is a bit about.
Random thought I was reminded of:
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink
AI Victim Impact Statements Are Here, and They Are Just as Disastrous as You’d Expect
AI Victim Impact Statements Are Here, and They Are Just as Disastrous as You’d Expect | Balls and Strikes
Victim impact statements already lead to harsher sentences for criminal defendants. The use of AI will only make things worse.Balls & Strikes (Balls and Strikes)
Browsers are complicit in browser fingerprinting.
Everyone talks about how evil browser fingerprinting is, and it is, but I don't get why people are only blaming the companies doing it and not putting equal blame on browsers for letting it happen.
Go to Am I Unique and look at the kind of data browsers let JavaScript access unconditionally with no user prompting. Here's a selection of ridiculous ones that pretty much no website needs:
- Your operating system (Isn't the whole damn point of the internet that it's platform independent?)
- Your CPU architecture (JS runs on the most virtual of virtual environments why the hell does it need to know what processor you have?)
- Your JS interpreter's version and build ID
- List of plugins you have installed
- List of extensions you have installed
- Your accelerometer and gyroscope (so any website can figure out what you're doing by analyzing how you move your phone, i.e. running vs walking vs driving vs standing still)
- Your magnetic field sensor AKA the phone's compass (so websites can figure out which direction you're facing)
- Your proximity sensor
- Your keyboard layout
- How your mouse moves every moment it's in the webpage window, including how far you scroll, what bit of text you hovered on or selected, both left and right clicks, etc.
- Everything you type on your keyboard when the window is active. You don't need to be typing into a text box or anything, you can set a general event listener for keystrokes like you can for the mouse.
If you're wondering how sensors are used to fingerprint you, I think it has to do with manufacturing imperfections that skew their readings in unique ways for each device, but websites could just as easily straight up record those sensors without you knowing. It's not a lot of data all things considered so you likely wouldn't notice.
Also, canvas and webGL rendering differences are each more than enough to 100% identify your browser instance. Not a bit of effort put into making their results more consistent I guess.
All of these are accessible to any website by default. Actually, there's not even a way to turn most of these off. WHY?! All of these are niche features that only a tiny fraction of websites need. Browser companies know that fingerprinting is a problem and have done nothing about it. Not even Firefox.
Why is the web, where you're by far the most likely to execute malicious code, not built on zero trust policies? Let me allow the functionality I need on a per site basis.
Fuck everything about modern websites.
Am I Unique ?
Check if your browser has a unique fingerprint, how identifiable you are on the Internetamiunique.org
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Web developers are complicit in browser fingerprinting, by insisting that sites require JavaScript (or WASM).
All of us are complicit in browser fingerprinting, because we tolerate this script dependence.
IMHO, a web site being allowed to execute arbitrary code on visitors' hardware should be an anomaly. The vast majority of them could be built to deliver the same information without requiring that inherently dangerous permission.
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One of the biggest reasons websites need to run JS is submitting form data to a server. Like this website.
But old forums did all this without JS by just using the HTML form's submit functionality itself. The issue is it causes the page to refresh meaning you can't keep any other unsubmitted forms, and you can get those annoying "submit form data again?" popups. So every website writes code to submit everything asynchronously.
Another major reason for using JS is dropdown menus and panels. You need to either write code to listen for the click and reveal/hide it as needed, or you have to do weird CSS tricks that are usually inferior in UX to a JavaScript implementation, or you have to bastardize the form dropdown selector into your general purpose dropdown.
These shouldn't be things you need to implement yourself using a Turing complete programming language. These should be natively implemented in the browser and accessible through HTML.
Remember when the only way to play videos on websites was with Flash or Java applets? But then video playback got natively implemented into HTML and now it's way easier and doesn't even require JS.
If browsers did the same for asynchronous form submission and dropdown menus, it would get rid of 80% of websites' need to run JS. Including this one.
But obviously they want you to run JS so they won't do that.
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Let's be careful how we phrase things here. JavaScript form submission and navigation are choices, not needs.
Also, progressive enhancement / graceful degradation exists. When competent developers (or bosses) want script effects on our sites, we can include them and make the sites continue to function with scripts disabled. It might require more work, but it is absolutely possible.
Framing the script-based approaches to these things as if they were needs contributes to the problem, IMHO.
(I am referring to the vast majority of web sites, of course, not special-purpose web applications like games.)
Navigation is a need.
It can be done without JS
You don't even need to be competent.
Being obsessed works too.
The problem is, a manager will just get an intern with 0 web experience and hand them WordPress.
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I agree with you about dropdown menus being something that could/should be natively available to HTML, but I'm less convinced about form submission. Sure, if we assume everything is happy path it's a great idea, but a system needs to be robust enough to handle a variety of cases. Maybe you want to redirect a user to a log-on page if they get back a 401, or present an explanation if they get a 403. A 5XX should usually display some sort of error message to the user. A 201 probably needs to add an element into the page, while a 200 might do nothing, or might alter something on the page.
With the huge range of possible paths and desired effects, it pretty quickly becomes apparent that designing an HTML & CSS–only spec that can meet the needs is infeasible. There's definitely a case to be made that JavaScript has become too powerful and can do too many potentially dangerous or privacy-invading things. And maybe a new range of permissions could be considered to limit a lot of that at a more fundamental level. But what we're talking about here with the form submission stuff is the real bare-bones basic stuff JavaScript was designed to make easier—alter the contents of web pages on the fly in response to user actions. And it's really, really good at that.
Another major reason for using JS is dropdown menus and panels. You need to either write code to listen for the click and reveal/hide it as needed, or you have to do weird CSS tricks that are usually inferior in UX to a JavaScript implementation, or you have to bastardize the form dropdown selector into your general purpose dropdown.
Look for text "HTML's got expandable sections baked in"
I had actually given up on expandable sections for my website (because I didn't want anymore JS than the dark/light switcher I made) until I found this.
Just fucking use HTML
Stop reinventing the wheel. The web was doing just fine before your bloated frameworks crawled out of the sewer.Just fucking use HTML
One of the biggest reasons websites need to run JS is submitting form data to a server. Like this website.
No. Forms function quite perfectly without JS thanks to action=.
Now whether you want to get "desktop app" fancy with forms and pretend you are a "first-class desktop citizen" that's a skill issue. But submitting form data, by itself, has not required JS since at least 1979. Maybe earlier.
Just tried it. Am I Unique says yes.
Tor still reports your operating system and processor architecture which is dumb as hell. If you're on Linux for example, that's probably one of the biggest things making you unique. Why not just make everyone "Windows x64" since that's the most common?
It also still reports extensions. Apparently it's definitely possible to tell vanilla Tor and Tails users apart because Tails has uBlock Origin installed by default, and the generally accepted advice is to never install extensions on Tor, one reason being it could make you unique.
Also, apparently the default window size Tor chooses in an attempt to prevent the window size from being used in fingerprinting isn't all that common, I got 1% and 5% on screen width and height respectively.
Tor doesn't seem to have WebGL enabled by default so it can't be used to fingerprint (though having it disabled is unique in itself).
Tor's canvas data is unique but I've heard that it generates a new canvas fingerprint each time you restart it. I don't know if that's true or how well it works though.
Tor, like every other browser, also has something called "audio data" that's a weird graph of numbers without units. No browser I've seen has ever not been unique for that category and Tor is no different. I didn't mention it in the post because I don't know what it is or if it has a genuine purpose or not.
I didn't try Tor on my phone but I would hope it would block sensor access?
- Your operating system
- Your CPU architecture
Agree. No reason they should have this.
- Your JS interpreter's version and build ID
I can see a reasonable argument for this being allowed. Feature detection should make this unnecessary, but it doesn't seem to be fully supported yet.
- Plugins & Extensions
This is clearly a break of the browser sandbox and should require explicit permission at the very least (if not be blocked outright...I'm curious what the legitimate uses for these would be).
- Accelerometer and gyroscope & magnetic field sensor
Should probably be tied to location permission, for the sake of a simple UX.
- Proximity sensor
Definitely potential legitimate reasons for this, but it shouldn't be by default.
- Keyboard layout
As someone who uses a non-QWERTY (and non-QWERTY-based) layout, this is one I have quite a stake in. The bottom line is that even without directly being able to obtain this, a site can very easily indirectly obtain it anyway, thanks to the difference between event.code and event.key. And that difference is important, because there are some cases where it's better to use one or the other. A browser-based game, for example, probably wants to use event.code so the user can move around based on where WASD would be on a QWERTY keyboard, even though as a Dvorak user, for me that would be <AOE. But keyboard shortcuts like J and K for "next"/"previous" item should usually use event.key.
There could/should be a browser setting somewhere, or an extension, that can hide this from sites. But it is far too useful, relative to its fingerprinting value, to restrict for ordinary users.
how sensors are used to fingerprint you, I think it has to do with manufacturing imperfections that skew their readings in unique ways
It's also simple presence detection. "You have a proximity sensor" is a result not every browser will have, so it helps narrow down a specific browser.
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This was the only one I could think of a good reason to track. I immediately thought of all the grandparents and tech illiterate people who'd probably implode if they had to pick .exe vs .deb vs .dmg/.app (I actually had to look up what MacOS uses...) vs etc. And don't even try to have them guess intel vs amd.
Automatically guessing the operating system saves us tech people from having to figure out they downloaded a file for a completely different OS.
Operating system and CPU architecture are useful for sites to serve the correct binaries when a user is downloading an application.
Barely. You could trim down the data to incredibly low granularity ("OS: Windows", "CPU: Intel Desktop") and you'd still get the exact same binary as 99% of the people 99% of the time, anyway.
100% agree. Browsers don't need to, and shouldn't be reporting all Javascript attributes that make us unique, especially things like canvas.
You can test this out here, but nowadays its rare for any out of the box browser to be anonymous.
My Fingerprint- Am I Unique ?
Check if your browser has a unique fingerprint, how identifiable you are on the Internetwww.amiunique.org
No one does this and I'd rather not share my info even if it did because I'd rather decide that myself.
Bad reason to get spied on.
This is why using a local web proxy is a good idea; it can standardize those responses (or randomize them) no matter what you’re actually using.
Personally, I keep JavaScript disabled by default specifically because of this, and turn on those features per-site. So if a website has a script that requires the accelerometer for what it does, that script gets to use it. Other sites keep asking for it? I suppress the requests on that site and if it fails to operate (throws one of those ad blocker or “you have JS disabled errors), I just stop going to the site.
I’ve found that with everything disabled by default, browsing the web is generally a pleasant experience… until it isn’t.
This of course requires using a JS management extension. What I’d really like to see is a browser that defaults to everything disabled, and if a site requests something, have the browser ask for permission to turn on the feature for that particular script, showing the URL for the script and describing what the code does that needs the permission. This seems like an obvious use for locally run AI models.
This of course requires using a JS management extension.
What's a good extension for this? What do you use?
Depends on the browser/OS.
My go-to for general browsing is Firefox with uBlock Origin and NoScript, which I also use in Edge; I have a few browsers that are still using uMatrix, and I have a proxy filter that strips calls to .js URLs by default except for specifically allowed URLs.
This is why using a local web proxy is a good idea
Do you have one you've used that I can look at for this?
Basically, most of the internet won't work right, if you don't allow the browsers to track you. I have had a very strict Firefox setting and kept having to create exception to every site I visited just get in.
You can boycot the sites but in the end, you'll be missing out on everything really
I hope so - it doesn't seem to work with platforms like facebook, twitter, reddit. We have had massive exodus from those too, but they keep growing and making money. People don't value privacy, if it gets in the way of convenience, socializing and entertainment
With some workplaces using Facebook messenger even, to plan shifts, you practically get forced to have accounts places where you wouldn't
Maybe
I believe that one should leave those platforms for personal reasons. Not as a statement to those companies.
I left because I don't like being tracked or being forced to accept being tracked. I did not leave because I wanted them to stop tracking their users or to show them that i don't like them doing it.
Imo these companies won't change the way they operate and even if they did, I wouldn't trust them to have done so. They will always find loopholes and workarounds to get to what and where they want.
There's 2 separate universes here.
Devs and tech companies care only for UX, convenience, and reduced friction to use any service. They would put their granny's home address and SSN in the headers if it made a page load 10ms faster. Their incentives are all short-sighted to hit the next goal to outcompete other devs/companies and ship their end of history killer app that will solve all problems - and that will still get bloated and enshittified within 18 months.
Then there's us, a subset of rational people educated about how much data gets transmitted, who are horrified by the general state of being online, and are hard to impress when it comes to more than just saying "privacy!" when promoting anything at all.
IMO, we have to DIY and cobble together so much of our own protection, we're closer to artists that live a strange life that few people understand, seems weird from the outside, but we love for the peace of mind. Which is not enough to be any appreciable segment of the market to move the needle on any product worth real money.
They would put their granny's home address and SSN in the headers if it made a page load 10ms faster.
Have they ever considered that pages would load faster if they didn't include 20MB of JavaScript?
Yeah, this is so fucked up ! When you archive reddit pages, those are over 20 fucking MB for just a conversation ! That's fucking insane...
I can reduce it to less than 500KB with alternative frontends, but still... This makes absolutely no sense and I'm scared to find out what they are hiding in between all those lines of code !
Just yesterday I was on a news website. I wanted to support it and the author of the piece so I opened a clean session of firefox. No extensions or blocking of any kind.
The "initial" payload (i.e. after I lost patience approximately 30s after initial page load and decided to call a number) was 14.79MB transferred. But the traffic never stopped. In the network view you could see the browser continually running ad auctions and about every 15s the ads on the page would cycle. The combination of auctions and ads on my screen kept that tab fully occupied at 25-40% of my CPU. Firefox self-reported the tab as taking over 400MB of RAM.
This was so egregious that I had to run one simple test. I set my DNS on my desktop to my PiHole and re-ran my experiment.
Initial payload went from almost 14.79 -> 4.00MB (much of which was fonts and oversized images to preview other articles). And the page took 1/4 the RAM and almost no CPU anymore.
Modern web is dogshit.
This was the website in question. thenation.com/article/politics…
I Just Got Back From the Centrist Rally. It Was Weird as Hell. | The Nation
Watching hundreds of nerds get together to bash the left and gush about “abundance” was as off-putting as it sounds.The Nation
IMO, we have to DIY and cobble together so much of our own protection, we’re closer to artists that live a strange life that few people understand, seems weird from the outside, but we love for the peace of mind.
That's beautiful
we’re closer to artists that live a strange life that few people understand, seems weird from the outside
Wow! That's a great way to put it!
Now I understand why my neighbors look at me like I'm one of the guys performing this act:
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
That a page knows technical details of my system and in which I live country (if I do not use a VPN), I give a fuck, why this only serves to correctly show the content, eventually in my language and allow the download of possible compatible apps.
Fingerprints are a very broad issue and are not necessarily related to privacy, blocking or counterfeiting all is possible, but in many cases counterproductive, it must be done specifically only in those that involve private and personal data, everything else is to put a tin foil hat.
To protect the privacy there are needed way more measures, avoiding trackers, Pixel tracking (Meta), keyloggers (Towerdata, Imgur, M$ US and some others), avoiding search engines which logs the activity (Google, Bing...), recognize dark pattern, using encrypted mailservices, best with disposable alias, harden the SO with Portmaster, Pi-ole or similar.......apart of Common sense-
Browsers, which are not directly from Big Corporations which itself log user actividad (Chrome, EDGE, Opera...), are relative irrelevant in this game of user profiling, they are only depends on personal preferences and needs.
Privacy is a huge issue, but too often misunderstood with wrong measures, PEBCAK
Thanks for bringing attention to this.
I think a major issue with problems like these are bad designers who are including bad decisions to justify their existence. They never learned that "less is more" and will add things without thinking about why just to show that they can.
I don't get why people are only blaming the companies doing it and not putting equal blame on browsers for letting it happen
What do you expect browsers to do? They can stop telegraphing some of this information, but then the websites won't render properly (they use this information to display the website properly), and your fingerprint would just be even more unique.
Pretty much every browser outside of Chrome and Edge have implemented some sort of fingerprinting mitigation techniques.
They can stop telegraphing some of this information, but then the websites won’t render properly (they use this information to display the website properly),
Pretty much none of the information is necessary to ever render a site properly.
OS and CPU architecture? Ireelevant to whether you are sending a JPG or PNG background. Nearly irrelevant to whether you are using a vertical or horizontal screen (and browsers adverstise that info separately anyway, it's even part of CSS media queries).
Accelerometer and gyroscope? The only reason that could ever be needed for rendering is if the user is moving so incredibly fast that red pixels in their screen would become green due to shifting. And in any time between 2025 and 2999, if you have someone moving that fast, you have worse problems than the site not rendering adequately.
Keyboard layout? If the rendering of a site depends on whether I'm pulsing "g" vs "j" while it loads, then that's quite stupid anyway because that boldly assumes the app focus is on the page.
Proximity sensor? Again: absolutely useless unless rendering environment moving at incredibly superhigh speed (at which the sensor might be reading data wrong anyway).
Declaring Metapendence – Alternative Social Media Options
Last week, I made the decision to leave all Meta services, including Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. That doesn’t mean I’m leaving social media, just the corporate owned services. I already left Twitter thanks to it becoming a home for fascists, including its owner. Fortunately, there are plenty of options out there, starting with the Fediverse.
As Italian filmmaker and photographer Elena Rossini describes in her video Introducing the Fediverse, the Fediverse features a number of services, including microblogging, photo sharing, reading tracking, and even video hosting (which is how Rossini published this video, in fact). Unlike corporate social media services, which are closed off from one another, Fediverse accounts can “talk” to one another. For example, I can follow a Pixelfed photo sharing account from my Mastodon microblogging account. This allows me to see their posts in my feed and interact with them, which they will see in their feed. Also unlike corporate social media, Fediverse services are decentralized similar to email, with multiple servers across the Internet hosting various services. My Mastodon account, for example, is on a server hosted by the This Week in Tech podcast network (twit.social).
videos.elenarossini.com/videos…
You can find all of my social media accounts, including my Fediverse accounts, by checking my Social Media Links page. Feel free to view and follow me so we can stay in touch.
📺 Introducing the Fediverse: a New Era of Social Media
A 4 minute video that aims to introduce the Fediverse to people not familiar with itElena Rossini
AMD supercomputers take gold and silver in latest Top500 as Chinese HPC remains shrouded in secrecy
AMD supercomputers take gold and silver in latest Top500 as Chinese HPC remains shrouded in secrecy
China stays mum regarding the performance of its latest supercomputing installations.Anton Shilov (Tom's Hardware)
Ghosting and ‘breadcrumbing’: the psychological impact of our bad behaviour on dating apps
Ghosting and ‘breadcrumbing’: the psychological impact of our bad behaviour on dating apps
When an online match lies or disappears, it can leave us feeling confused and hopeless.The Conversation
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A prototype Porsche Cayenne EV just crushed every gas SUV ever in a race
A prototype Porsche Cayenne EV just crushed every gas SUV ever in a race
Porsche brought its upcoming Cayenne EV to the British Hillclimb Championship and smashed the SUV course record by over 4 seconds.Jameson Dow (Electrek)
GM Says 'Next-Gen Affordable EV' Will Be Made In Kansas
GM Says 'Next-Gen Affordable EV' Will Be Made In Kansas
The automaker said it plans to invest $4 billion over the next two years to beef up its domestic manufacturing capacity.Tim Levin (InsideEVs)
EV prices dipped in May – and Tesla Model Y led the slide
EV prices dipped in May – and Tesla Model Y led the slide
EV prices dipped in May as incentives surged and Tesla’s price cuts led the way, especially for the Model Y, the best-selling EV in the US.Michelle Lewis (Electrek)
Vinfast EV Taxis Now in Manila — Exclusive Updates
Vinfast EV Taxis Now in Manila — Exclusive Updates - CleanTechnica
EDITOR’S NOTE: This article was thoroughly updated on Tuesday, June 10, 2024, at 10:53 am EST (10:53 pm Philippine time) after CleanTechnica attended the official launch of the Green GSM taxis.Raymond Tribdino (CleanTechnica)
“Dubai Chocolate” is Regime Propaganda
The viral pistachio-filled candy bar is everywhere—but there’s nothing sweet about the United Arab Emirates and its human rights record.
Minicab-favourite VW Touran due comeback as radical EV
Minicab-favourite VW Touran due comeback as radical EV
Smaller sibling to ID Buzz could drawn on retro concepts such as the 2011 Bulli and 2016 Budd-eGreg Kable (Autocar)
Porsche Secretly Entered the 2027 Cayenne EV in a Hill Climb, and It Set a Record
Porsche Secretly Entered the 2027 Cayenne EV in a Hill Climb, and It Set a Record
The electric Porsche Cayenne is already setting records before it's officially in existence.Joel Feder (The Drive)
[Live updates ]Tracking North African "Soumoud" convoy on its journey to Gaza
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[Live updates ]Tracking North African "Soumoud" convoy on its journey to Gaza
Gaza-bound aid convoy crosses into Libya from Tunisia
Tunisians gather ahead of the departure of a land convoy named “Steadfastness” to break the siege on Gaza (Credit: AFP)Roya News
How far-right ideas in Canada are working their way into mainstream politics
How far-right ideas in Canada are working their way into mainstream politics
Recent developments in the Canadian far-right movements raise concerns about the political implications as the far right moves mainstream.The Conversation
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Do you talk to AI when you’re feeling down? Here’s where chatbots get their therapy advice
Do you talk to AI when you’re feeling down? Here’s where chatbots get their therapy advice
Generative AI models are like auto-complete on steroids. Bots learned to converse by reading text scraped from internet sites – and they’re not always accurate.The Conversation
Scanning Australia's bones
Scanning Australia's bones
Can a new database of 3D bone scans help solve the mystery of the elusive ngudlukanta?stories.theconversation.com
As Cannabis Users Age, Health Risks Appear To Grow
Benjamin Han, a geriatrician and addiction medicine specialist at the University of California-San Diego, tells his students a cautionary tale about a 76-year-old patient who, like many older people, struggled with insomnia.
As Cannabis Users Age, Health Risks Appear To Grow - KFF Health News
More older people are using cannabis products regularly, but research suggests their cannabis-related health problems are also on the rise.KFF Health News
What happens when oppression reaches a boiling point?
What happens when oppression reaches a boiling point?
Scholars say ICE deportation protests could prove a crucible momentChandelis Duster (The Emancipator)
Pentagon Says Trump’s Armed Anti-Protest Crackdown in LA Will Cost $134 Million: Hegseth said the anti-protest crackdown in LA is the beginning of a “new phase” of militarization against Americans.
Pentagon Says Trump’s Armed Anti-Protest Crackdown in LA Will Cost $134 Million
Hegseth said the anti-protest crackdown in LA is the beginning of a “new phase” of militarization against Americans.Sharon Zhang (Truthout)
Texas Quietly Downsizes Border Security Spending
Without any announcement or open debate, the Republican-controlled Texas Legislature passed a biennial state budget that will effectively halve the amount dedicated to its multi-billion-dollar border security operations—from a proposed $6.5 billion down to about $3.4 billion.
Texas Quietly Downsizes Border Security Spending
But outlays remain far above state funding prior to the Operation Lone Star era.Justin Miller (The Texas Observer)
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False claims that ivermectin treats cancer, COVID leads states to pass OTC laws
False claims that ivermectin treats cancer, COVID leads states to pass OTC laws
False and unproven claims about ivermectin just won’t die on social media.Beth Mole (Ars Technica)
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I firmly believe that a bunch of dumb fucks took ivermectin three days into their COVID and started feeling better.
Because that's how recovery from an infection that peaks at three days works, especially if you also have untreated worms.
It spread because of one or two early studies with falsified data.
Personally, I wish this stuff were more lethal with prolonged usage. I think two people have died, but maybe people would think twice about believing social media if the risk were greater. And if they didn't, well, it's probably good for the survival of the species.
They have to periodically search her cabinets because she still believes that idiocy and tries to take it if she can find it.
At what point does this behavior become mental illness? These people are in a death cult...
16 states have proposed or passed legislation that would make ivermectin available over the counter. The intention is to make it much easier for people to get ivermectin and use it for any ailment they believe it can cure. Idaho, Arkansas, and Tennessee have passed laws to make ivermectin available over the counter. On Monday, Louisiana's state legislature passed a bill to do the same, and it now awaits signing by the governor. The other states that have considered or are considering such bills include: Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Mississippi, New Hampshire, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and West Virginia.
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The intention is to make it much easier for people to get ivermectin and use it for any ailment they believe it can cure.
Who needs actual science or medicine, as long as they believe it will help them?
Dude. If morons want to eat worm paste and drink bleach. Fucking let them.
Like why the fuck do we need warnings on everything. Gas can says don’t drink. If your dumbass wants to drink gas, let me get you a cup.
EPA Drops Legal Case Against the GEO Group, a Major Trump Donor, Over Its Misuse of Harmful Disinfectant in an ICE Facility
A complaint filed under the Biden administration alleged that on more than 1,000 occasions in 2022 and 2023, the GEO Group had its employees use the disinfectant, which causes irreversible eye damage and skin burns, without proper protection.
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The DOGE 100: Musk Is Out, but More Than 100 of His Followers Remain to Implement Trump’s Blueprint
At least 38 DOGE members work, or have worked, for one of Elon Musk’s companies. Meanwhile, nearly two dozen DOGE officials are making cuts to the same federal agencies that regulate the industries that employed them.
The Chevy Equinox EV is selling like hotcakes. Starting at under $35,000 with over 315 miles of range, Chevy’s electric SUV is proving to be a hit.
The Chevy Equinox EV is selling like hotcakes
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How Are Freelancers Adapting to Gen AI?
- Following the launch of ChatGPT, freelance workers quickly changed how they work and what jobs they pursue.
- Higher-skilled freelancers began bidding on a broader value range of jobs and proportionally fewer high-value jobs as a means to stay active, maintain their visibility and reputation, and adapt as market dynamics evolve.
- AI helps lower barriers of entry to opportunities: More freelancers from outside the U.S. entered the market, using AI tools to compete in new job categories.
How Are Freelancers Adapting to Gen AI?
Wharton research reveals how freelancers are adapting to stay competitive after the launch of ChatGPT.Seb Murray (Knowledge@Wharton)
Oppose STOP CSAM: Protecting Kids Shouldn’t Mean Breaking the Tools That Keep Us Safe
Oppose STOP CSAM: Protecting Kids Shouldn’t Mean Breaking the Tools That Keep Us Safe
A Senate bill re-introduced this week threatens security and free speech on the internet. EFF urges Congress to reject the STOP CSAM Act of 2025 (S.Electronic Frontier Foundation
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And that's intentional.
So I'm going to say into the air that I was lucky in my selection of mass culture in my childhood.
Star Wars EU before 2010 - everything around us and that feeling of desperation and who can and can't be trusted and the rapid change of the world, "rapid" meaning in the span of 13 years for prequels and then 20 years after them till OT, which is similar to our reality, HP - things about terfs and culture wars are really not important, because its world functions similarly to our surrounding world.
Tolkien and Chesterton and Lewis.
Lots of crazy stuff, Honorverse and Forgotten Realms and small fandoms.
Stuff we want: protecting kids, having privacy.
Stuff these proposal do: break privacy, don't care about kids (or anyone else for that matter).
Seems pretty simple to me. Again.
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That's the plan. Attack subject that are traditionally seen as taboo/sensitive/whatever, then extend. CSAM content, porn in general, even random bulletin board with cringey content these days, are used as the entrypoint. You target those, people are wary about defending their rights because of the flagship topic, so laws are changed to put some extra layers of tracking, surveillance, etc.
Step two is claim whatever site/service the current government dislike falls under an imaginary category that allows using these layers of surveillance. And these are extra hard to remove once put in place, because nobody wants to break their surveillance toy.
It's never about the porn, it's never about the kids, it's never about our security when a proposal shows up and talks about breaking encryption, privacy, etc.
Oppose STOP CSAM: Protecting Kids Shouldn’t Mean Breaking the Tools That Keep Us Safe
Oppose STOP CSAM: Protecting Kids Shouldn’t Mean Breaking the Tools That Keep Us Safe
A Senate bill re-introduced this week threatens security and free speech on the internet. EFF urges Congress to reject the STOP CSAM Act of 2025 (S.Electronic Frontier Foundation
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[Live updates ]Tracking North African "Soumoud" convoy on its journey to Gaza
Gaza-bound aid convoy crosses into Libya from Tunisia
Tunisians gather ahead of the departure of a land convoy named “Steadfastness” to break the siege on Gaza (Credit: AFP)Roya News
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National Guard troops are now protecting ICE agents as they make arrests in LA
https://apnews.com/article/los-angeles-protests-ice-national-guard-9dfd2d025070bb6060d908dd3cf9b1f0
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authorities didn’t say if the looting was tied to the protests.
I'll clear this up, looting is not protesting, so fucking no.
“Localhost tracking” explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
"Meta devised an ingenious system (“localhost tracking”) that bypassed Android’s sandbox protections to identify you while browsing on your mobile phone — even if you used a VPN, the browser’s incognito mode, and refused or deleted cookies in every session."
“Localhost tracking” explained. It could cost Meta 32 billion.
You just can't finish off Zuckerberg.Jorge García Herrero (Zero Party Data)
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32 billion still is nothing for these scumbags
JAIL MARC ZUCKERBERG ALREADY. That is still what we do with criminals, is it not?
Its reliant on running a normie phone and OS, and running the native FB, instagram, or other apps in the Meta constellation. These apps create persistent services that internally backchannel sensitive browser data back to them via internal ports. All browser traffic on devices running these apps should be considered compromised.
The solution is to run Graphene or other de-googled OS and avoid Meta apps like the plague.
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The solution is to have stronger privacy laws.
If everyone followed your solution then Graphene will become the normie os and Facebook will start targeting it. Choosing an esoteric system for yourself is a good way for a free people to protect their privacy, but it won't scale.
When we write our new constitution we need to include privacy as a right.
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The solution is to have stronger privacy laws.
Many people have the power to make certain privacy attacks impossible right now. I consider making that change better for those people than adding a law which can't stop the behavior, but just adds a negative incentive.
I wouldn't wait around for the law to prosecute MITM attacks, I would use end to end encryption.
Choosing an esoteric system for yourself is a good way for a free people to protect their privacy, but it won't scale.
If this is referencing using a barely-used system as a privacy or security protection, then I would regard that as bad protection.
Everyone using GrapheneOS would be a net security upgrade. All the protections in place wouldn't just fade away now that Facebook wants to spy on that OS. They're still in place; Facebook's job is still harder than it otherwise would be.
The problem is that GrapheneOS is only available for Pixel devices.
I really wish they would support other manufacturers, because I don't really trust Google to make decent hardware (and to be frank, I don't trust them with anything at all).
Its not exactly Graphene but it works on 8+ old devices of various manifacturers
I am very keen to get a Fairphone with e/os next time I switch devices.
Does it work well with Android Auto? I can't drive much without a map and my music playlist.
did not test that but here is a page how to "google" the "de-googled" os for supporting that
doc.e.foundation/support-topic…
because of that lineage could be a better option
About Fairphone: there is an alternative (Shiftphone) that is more expensive but with the main plus points of having a higher storage option and the mainboard is replaceable, they also have somewhere a cheap (~200€) phone that should work if you really just need a phone
(i mention that as an option, because having choice is always better even if it ends up being the first thing that gets choosen)
grapheneOS isn't security through obscurity, they make efforts to harden the phone's privacy. You're right that, if it was mainstream, Meta would target it directly though.
The solution is to remove the profit motive from acquiring, selling, and monetizing our data. Laws alone don't stop big corps from doing things.
While this is true, it's worth clarifying that GrapheneOS in particular is able to run apps sandboxed, so they can't communicate with eachother as they can on a stock OS.
Having said that, no one should expect that their right to privacy is given (or fought for), unless they take it first. Yes, laws and all, but user education is the bigger issue.
Users were onboarded onto the Internet before they had an understanding of the differences between cyberspace and meatspace, and how that could affect them. Placing the blame (and solutions) solely on third-parties is a dangerous mistake.
No, it is Meta and these companies fault, but I focus on things I can actually control. Just spewing the party line default Lemmy opinion of "capitalism is the problem, blah" doesn't do anything to solve the problem.
Educating people so they understand how the surveillance works, and explaining that there are alternatives, actually gets us closer to a solution.
The solution is to ~~run Graphene or other de-googled OS and~~ avoid Meta ~~apps~~ like the plague.
FTFY
Doesn't matter what OS you use.
You can Block WebRTC via uBlock.
From my understanding, this, along with setting Meta on fire, may mitigate the issue.
I think this would warrant to get all websites using the facebook pixel on safe browsing lists and AV databases as infected with malware.
Maybe then the pressure on meta would be big enough to stop this shit, if all websites stopped to not use that anymore.
Btw, does anyone know if the localhost tracking is implemented in Whatsapp as well, or just FB and Instagram?
I would bet a ton of money on WhatsApp being a spy machine in a way people don’t know yet. Their bullshit of end to end encryption and privacy while being a free app is undoubtedly some ruse to squeeze data out of people. There isn’t a fucking doubt in my mind.
Facebook is owning and operating a free and private messaging service? To what end? Yeah, nah. Not fuckin buying it.
My guess is that in some form they track contacts and link clicks. I genuinely don't think they're reading messages, but I think they do know eg that Bob is someone that likes to send people links and that there are 5 people that always open those links. So they may have directed model of linked topics between people.
Even if this isn't true though, owning WhatsApp probably gives Meta a lot of culture impact in a similar way to Google and Gmail. The fact that they could create their Meta AI model and put it in front of like a billion people overnight won't be lost on shareholders.
You’re not affected if (and only if)You always used the Brave browser or the DuckDuckGo search engine on mobile
I found that odd, but reading the more technical write up (linked in the article) it seems Brave blocks localhost communication.
The Chrome proposal references a single use case. I've never seen a website that sets up my local devices, but is this a new thing?
Why did localhost not get blocked earlier? This seems like a huge hole browsers have ignored for years.
Also the DuckDuckGo exception doesn't make sense to me. Does DuckDuckGo have Facebook trackers on it to begin with? Whatever site DuckDuckGo sends you to, if they have the trackers, you'll get tracked.
GitHub - explainers-by-googlers/local-network-access: A proposal to restrict sites from accessing a users' local network without permission
A proposal to restrict sites from accessing a users' local network without permission - explainers-by-googlers/local-network-accessGitHub
I completely forgot that existed! Double checking the technical article they do correctly label it as a browser in their testing matrix/grid.
I just got confused by the clear "Brave browser" call out. When I hear DuckDuckGo I definitely don't think browser.
Good catch!
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Should the LAPD not be backing the protestors if the LAPD report to the local authorities?
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