The United States has, for 70 years, been fighting a continuous aerial war against the New World screwworm, a parasite that eats animals alive: cow, pig, deer, dog, even human. (Its scientific name, C. hominivorax, translates to “man-eater.”) Larvae of the parasitic fly chew through flesh, transforming small nicks into big, gruesome wounds. But in the 1950s, the U.S. Department of Agriculture laid the groundwork for a continent-wide assault. Workers raised screwworms in factories, blasted them with radiation until they were sterile, and dropped the sterile adult screwworms by the millions—even hundreds of millions—weekly over the U.S., then farther south in Mexico, and eventually in the rest of North America.
The sterile flies proceeded to, well, screw the continent’s wild populations into oblivion, and in 2006, an invisible barrier was established at the Darién Gap, the jungle that straddles the Panama-Colombia border, to cordon the screwworm-free north off from the south. The barrier, as I observed when I reported from Panama several years ago, consisted of planes releasing millions of sterile screwworms to rain down over the Darién Gap every week. This never-ending battle kept the threat of screwworms far from America.
But in 2022, the barrier was breached. Cases in Panama—mostly in cattle—skyrocketed from dozens a year to 1,000, despite ongoing drops of sterile flies. The parasite then began moving northward, at first slowly and then rapidly by 2024, which is when I began getting alarmed emails from those following the situation in Central America. As of this month, the parasite has advanced 1,600 miles through eight countries to reach Oaxaca and Veracruz in Mexico, with 700 miles left to go until the Texas border. The U.S. subsequently suspended live-cattle imports from Mexico.
Central America is shaped like a funnel with a long, bumpy tail that reaches its skinniest point in Panama. Back in the day, the USDA helped pay for screwworm eradication down to Panama out of not pure altruism but economic pragmatism: Establishing a 100-mile screwworm barrier there is cheaper than creating one at the 2,000-mile U.S.-Mexico border. Even after screwworms began creeping up the tail of the funnel recently, the anti-screwworm campaign had one last good chance of stopping them at a narrow isthmus in southern Mexico—after which the funnel grows dramatically wider. It failed. The latest screwworm detections in Oaxaca and Veracruz are just beyond the isthmus.
They were probably brought there through human trade of some sorts. I doubt they covered that range without causing massive issues and destruction on its path in such a short time.
ahh yes the Pestilence is in good form but my money is on famine, even though a parlay on war and death together has a big payday. Make your bets folks, scared money don't make money.
Think I found it The prompt itself called him Kyle so not sure which response you had in mind.
This one is the top comment:
Death was the oldest. Since time immemorial, people have died and they have come to him. Mankind fights an endless war against him. Though they may have succeeded in stifling his actions, Death is patient. He knows that in the end, all things come to him.
Pestilence was Death's brother. He brought plague upon the lands. Staining the Earth black with disease and blight. His method of bringing people to his brother was slow and excruciating. However, mankind have begun to stave him off. Disease was beaten by technology and he increasingly faded into irrelevance.
Famine was as old as Death and pre-dated the birth of mankind. He worked with Pestilence to target the source of man's strength, his food and fuel. He destroyed crop and rotted grain. Starvation and a slow path to Death awaited those afflicted by him. However, man stood strong against him. They developed methods to create a surplus of food, too much for Famine to destroy. They developed methods to deflect his hand so that he may no longer afflict the source of man's strength. Thus, Famine, like Pestilence, faded into irrelevance.
War was the youngest. He was smart and cunning. He channeled man's strength against themselves. Conflict and strife became the grounds for which man displayed his strength. Efficient in work, he brought many to Death. However after his most brilliant work, where War embroiled the world twice over, mankind caught on to his cunning. Man made laws and grew to depend on each other. Though they may never fully quell War's influence, they made sure he would never afflict the world so spectacularly ever again.
Death was unhappy. Mankind had defeated his brothers and impeded his work. In his impatience and anger, he consulted his 5th brother, Kyle.
Kyle was a strange fellow amongst the brothers. He was quiet, lazy and seemed to care little for Death's work. He decided that his own birthname was too tedious to pronounce and opted for an easier name. Gaelic in origin, "Kyle" meant "narrow" a strange name for a Horseman to take on.
"Help me Kyle. My brothers are defeated. Mankind may one day defeat me as well. Please help out just this once." Kyle said nothing and merely nodded. He then disappeared off to perform his work.
As Death sat around his bedridden brothers, a miracle occured. Pestilence finger twitched and he his hands grew fleshy. Disease once again spread around the world. No longer as powerful as he once was, but alive once again.
Famine groaned and began to sit upright. Once again, crops wilted and people starved. Famine however, felt something amiss, some of his work was...voluntary. Mankind began to starve itself.
War rose from his bed with new found strength. The gears of conflict shook off their rust and began to turn once again. Innocents die in battle again, widows gained and fathers lost. Misguided soldiers die under authority's whims.
"You revived our brothers Kyle. How did you do it?" Asked Death, impressed with Kyle's work.
"I am Kyle, "narrow", the fourth of the Horsemen. Born with humanity but before War. My influence appeared when the first man decided that he did not need his tribe to survive. Narrow are the minds of humans.
Humans defeated disease with miracle cures. Now some fear that those cures are harmful to them. Let them face Pestilence's wrath.
Humans defeated Famine through piling resources and modifying crop. Now they hoard but never give. They let their breathren starve. Now they feel that excess of food is sin. They willing starve themselves of their source of strength to meet society's whims. Let them suffer by Famine's hand.
Humans defeated War through tolerance, diplomacy and restraint. Now they turn intolerant and unleash violence against those not of their own group. They justify their "Holy Wars" with the blood of innocents. Violence begets violence, vengeance for innocent blood spilled is carried out by the sword. Let them spiral down to oblivion, guided by War.
Narrow are the minds of humans. They do not think before they act. They believe what they want to believe and ignore what they don't.
I am Ignorance. Until mankind is capable of defeating me, they can never truly destroy the Horsemen."
I know this isn't the time or place. But Death deserves a proper name. It's a weird hill I preach on since figuring it out.
Death comes for us all.
Pestilence - disease, by virus, bacteria, parasite, prion, etc will lead to death.
Famine - starvation, or dehydration, or simply lack of proper nutrition leads to death.
War - violence, man vs man, for reasons unknown, but entirely human made leads to death.
Death - Leads to death? His name should be something else we fear. And what we fear is related to the above. A few names I propose are Mortality, Age, or just Time - we cannot live forever.
Death and "decay" right? The little dust motes, the stray sock on your chair, the mold in your shower, the grey hair on your head, the new wrinkle near your eye, the new ache in your knee, the yellowing family photos, the moment when you can't quite remember your nephews name.
The little things that fall apart until that one day you just... stop.
Sorta fun related fact, in the original text Death is actually the only one who has a name at all, the rest have just been inferred based on historical context.
It's called Entropy and ironically it is also responsible for life.
A wall tends to fall apart (and not the other way around) because these individual pieces have greater degrees of freedom (of movement) than the wall itself. Living beings, through their exchanges with the environment, breathing, consuming and excreting, end up increasing the degrees of freedom of the matter in their vicinity.
In more concise words:
"Life, as a highly organized system, exists in a state of relatively low entropy, while the universe as a whole is constantly moving towards higher entropy (more disorder) according to the second law of thermodynamics. It may seem paradoxical, a violation of a fundamental law of physics, but life actually increases the overall entropy of the universe as it utilizes energy and resources to maintain its own order, eventually releasing waste and heat back into the environment."
In short, life ultimately increases movement, transformation, decay, disorder and thus death.
New World screwworm (NWS) disease is an infestation with the larvae of the NWS fly that lives off the flesh of living mammals and, less commonly, birds.
Its important to note this fly has existed for millions of years laying its eggs in the flesh of mammals in the Americas, and that this has little to do with how we treat animals
obviously this is an ancient organism, but the fuel for it to ravage has never existed on this planet at this scale, it's a tinderbox of living tissue.
Was wondering myself. I'm worried we've done the same thing to these bugs that we did to bacterial pathogens with antibiotics. I.e. we found a REALLY powerful weapon, used it enough to massively alter the survival pressures of the species, but not enough to eradicate it entirely until they just genetically adapt around that new pressure. If some genetic lines of the species were more inclined to radiation resistance or to altered reproduction patterns/sexual selection, then those became the only genetic lines that can propogate. Would be slow at first, but exponential growth is a bitch. There is a finite window of generations to wipe them all out before they're all replaced by the more resistant genetic lines. Super bugs.
How screwworms managed to jump the barrier in 2022 is not fully clear. But in the years immediately before, the coronavirus pandemic reportedly created supply-chain snarls at the fly factory in Panama and disrupted regular cattle inspections that might have set off the alarm bells earlier.
Still, the screwworm advanced relatively slowly through Panama and Costa Rica for the first couple of years.
800,000 cattle a year are raised illegally in nature reserves [in Central America] and then smuggled by boat and truck up to Mexico. This allowed the screwworm to spread much faster than it can fly [beginning in 2024]. The line of new screwworm cases followed known smuggling routes
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Hey Canadians, you guys still have science up there, right? I got a two-four of Molson or Labatt for ya if you can lend your continental neighbors a hand. Don’t do it for the US, but help out Mexico eh?
Go suck a dick, really- we have been shouting for about 25 years that exactly this was going to happen and you told us "fuck off, you're America's hat"
Eh, I’m from Detroit, we drink Canadian beer and would never speak ill of our southern neighbors. Heck, I grew up watching Hockey Night on CBC and listening to 89x. Can’t speak for the rest of the country though.
But for real, these critters sound scary, and apparently we’re all out of science. Or any sort of common sense. Yeah, we’re fucked.
is this something I should be freaking out about? I'd much rather not wind up with a bunch of larvae-infested wounds that I almost certainly would pick at.
you are the first person that I’ve seen to finally mention his voice. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with his entire vocal box?? How can a person, any person, listen to RFK Jr for any period of time, and think to himself “This person seems to know a lot about health”???
you are the first person that I’ve seen to finally mention his voice. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with his entire vocal box??
I think most people don’t talk about it because there are plenty of things to complain about with RFK Jr, we don’t have to resort to ableism.
He has a condition called spasmodic dysphonia. Legendary NPR interviewer Diane Rehm also suffered from this condition, which eventually ended her radio career.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think it’s because of his terrible health decisions. It happens to some people.
If you do heroine for 15 years like RFK jr did then you’ll suffer actual brain damage which will make you sound like that. Spasmodic dysphasia my ass, maybe shouldn’t have taken all that H eh? His brain worm was keeping the lights on, that dude gave way better advice than the human taco shell that is RFK jr
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A new survey showing that 82 percent of Jewish Israelis support the expulsion of Gazans was met with disbelief among those who stubbornly believe that the extremists are outliers. But these trends are as consistent as they are shocking
Reading about this stuff on the Israeli lead news network KAN is... Interesting. When the complete eradication of Gazans is being talked about it's very blasé and never takes responsibility. For example, this report says Hamas are in fact the ones screwing up Gaza aid efforts, and this one richly claims that the IDF did not kill anyone at an aid site. The IDF alleges that they investigated themselves and found that they weren't guilty.
The Washington Post issues rare correction, admitting it misrepresented Israeli involvement in a Gaza incident that left over 30 dead. Updated findings and video footage refute the initial claims, which echoed unverified Hamas-linked sources.
I think it's potentially true that Hamas fucks with aid and blames it on the IDF for public support. I don't know if they do, but it'd be smart. Israel is absolutely fucking with aid, guaranteed. They're murdering civilians, and damn near no one seems to give a shit. It's sad how few people seem to pay attention or care about the obvious signs of genocide. Not just the Palestinian genocide, the Rwandan, Bosnian, Cambodian genocides as well.
I don't really think they do that, but I'd personally find it smart. Limit the amount of aid sent so that people are suffering and desperate. Offer a solution, win public opinion. Again, I don't really think they do that. I think that Israel's doing all of that.
The entire last twoish years have have been doubly insane for people like myself, because:
Though I am not Jewish, my cousins all are. They are all secular, American, liberal to lefty Jews by the heritage and ethnicity of their father, and his culture that they maintain.
They are all against the genocide, but according to current, general, right wing sentiment... they either don't exist or are self hating.
I can only imagine this has all been even more insane for them.
Nearly every pro-Palestine protest on every campus in the US that I've read about or seem... has at bare minimum had sizeable numbers of Jewish Americans at it, if not being co-organized by them or headlining them as speakers.
... Meanwhile, I've been anti Zionist my whole life, and every single actual Israeli I've ever met has been a racist, anti-Islamic Zionist... and when I point this out, almost every white liberal or self described lefty has called me an antisemite.
Then on my own side of the family, my dad and my uncle just actually are racist anti-semites, making 'off color jokes' about Jews being greedy and money obsessed at fucking family gatherings literally in the faces of my cousins and their dad.
Oh well I guess?
Politics evolves to become defined by the hypocrises and contradictions no one is capable of having a rational discussion about.
Meanwhile, I've been anti Zionist my whole life, and every single actual Israeli I've ever met has been a racist, anti-Islamic Zionist... and when I point this out, almost every white liberal or self described lefty has called me an antisemite.
The problem is that there is a fine line between stating your observations of a few people and racism.
I’d guess that you haven’t met many actual Israelis….. certainly not enough to be a statistically significant sample. If that’s the case then assuming that your observations apply to the whole population becomes racism.
The problem is that there is a fine line between stating your observations of a few people and racism.
Understanding that the majority of Israelis are fascist and support genocide does not make you rascist.
What you are doing is conflating zionism with Judaism, no different to the Israeli state and their propaganda. Believing that the Israeli government IS judaism is about as rascist as you can get. It's no different than claiming Iran or the Taliban IS Islam/Arabs, which is unironically what Christian naturalists/racists/fascists believe.
Hey there, bingo, you managed to make roughly the same point as I did but without making it personal, lol.
As a kind of ... lol, further, roughly relevant personal example:
My door dash driver the other day was a shorter woman, olive complexion, spoke with a bit of an accent, and had a head covering over her head ao that you couldn't see her hair, but could see her whole face, along with something sort of resembling a shawl, but quite bright and colorful.
I thanked her for the food, and then, a bit awkardly said... 'I only know how to 'thank you' in Arabic, shyu-ka-ren (sp lol), but I ... believe you are probably Persian, how would I say 'thank you' in Persian?'
She smiled and was a bit confused: 'How did you know I am Persian, and not Arab?'
'Ah, I don't know the proper names of the different styles of head coverings, but I have seen many pictures, and I think yours is more common in Persia, they tend to be different in Arab countries.'
'Ah, that's right! That is how you knew!' smiled again. 'Yes, in Arabic it is shyu-ka-ren, in Persian it is tash-ah-kor!'
I then struggle to pronounce it a few times until getting it right, while also semi-short circuiting, reverting back to my 'Karate training' and mixing in semi-formal Japanese bows.
... Given where I currently live, I can almost statistically guarantee she'd never encountered a white person she's delivered DoorDash to here, who even bothered to attempt to tell the difference between an Arab and a Persian, muchless for the purpose of trying to properly thank her in her own language.
All that to say: It is entirely possible to be humble, and attempt to 'profile' people... to achieve something pleasant, good, that spreads a smile.
Awkward? Probably.
Racist? ... No, more likely quite close to the opposite.
I have not met very many Israelis, that is true...
But the ones that I have met expressed very overtly racist positions that were logically inconsistent in any other scenario: special pleading all the way.
I wasn't, at the time, back around a decade ago now, telling my white liberal friends 'all Israelis are racist because I met a few'.
I was telling them 'this is what this one particular guy said, this is what that other particular guy said, if you applied that same logic you could justify the US extermination of Native Americans, this is concerning to me.'
You are here doing the thing my former friends did: You are assuming I did and said things I did not do nor say, and are pearl clutching... because you've head canon'd in your own missing context and additional details.
Notably none of my former white liberal friends bothered to ever ask me about having grown with fairly frequently interacting with... you know, my cousins... and me and them getting along with them well, me learning how to make a latke, me being respectful at hannukah despite me being raised Protestant, me being excited to learn the dradel dradel dradel song as a kid, watching fiddler on the roof together and me liking the songs so much I learned how to sing some of them, and then my actually anti semitic dad telling me to cut that shit out in his house, etc.
Nah they just assumed I was an anti-semite, because they and their families were even more lily white than me and mine, and were projecting their own fears of being viewed as anti-semitic onto me.
It is entirely possible for me to say 'every Israeli I've met has been racist', that be a true statement, while I can also simultaneously believe that not all Israelis are racist, statistically or by definition... because I am aware of the difference between an anecdote and a statistically valid survey.
...
But did you read the entire article that is this post?
82% of the Israeli public support, at bare minimum, ethnically cleansing all of Gaza.
Thats 4 out of 5.
That is your statistically valid sample.
Turns out my anecdotal experience was not atypical.
...
I've only met a few Japanese (as in, born and raised in Japan and ethnically Japanese) people in my life, and they've all been skilled martial artists.
This just is true.
Because I met them via participating in Karate for over a decade.
... Does this mean I think all Japanese people are highly skilled martial artists?
No.
Not unless you read that into what I said, despite me not actually saying that, because you head canon'd your own context into the first statement.
But the ones that I have met expressed very overtly racist positions that were logically inconsistent in any other scenario: special pleading all the way.
I wasn't, at the time, back around a decade ago now, telling my white liberal friends 'all Israelis are racist because I met a few'.
I’m not saying that you were being racist. I’m saying that it’s very easy to come across as racist when pointing out things that you don’t like about a few people off the same race.
You are here doing the thing my former friends did: You are assuming I did and said things I did not do nor say, and are pearl clutching... because you've head canon'd in your own missing context and additional details.
I’m doing no such thing. I wasn’t judging you for your observations and I made no statement about whether I thought you were racist or not because I don’t have the information required to suggest that you are.
But did you read the entire article that is this post?
No, I didn’t need to because I was only making the comment that it’s very easy to be seen as racist when you talk about a race of people.
No, I didn’t need to because I was only making the comment that it’s very easy to be seen as racist when you talk about a race of people.
Ah, guess we better just not talk at all about race then and all just do 'im colorblind, i intentionally ignore systemic racial injustices and judge everyone by my own racially priveleged standards'.
Fuck off.
Context matters, the context of this post and the comments that follow from it matter, you just randomly popping in to 'agnostically' critique a single comment, on its own, without context, when the entire point of said comment is that proper context and nuance matter is an insultingly facile and unproductive thing to do, its the insecure, passive-aggressive liberal's version of 'just asking questions' / 'lets say, hypothetically... (nonsenical rhetorical non sequitir).'
Is... is this what you do, just scan random comments and remove all context and then tell people that with all the context removed this could sound bad?
You reply to specific, detailed posts and then say oh actually I was just commenting generally, it just happened to be on this specific comment for no particular reason?
Go back to twitter or bluesky to clutch your pearls, fuck off with your disingenuous, shit-disturber bullshit.
'nogooduser' indeed, almost like an intentional joke name a dedicated contrarian troll would use.
This "issue" has unfortunately been in Israeli controlled media for much longer than a year. They've been indoctrined to hate Palestine since the forming of israel
Oh yeah it's gone wild, but at least that brings the issue up for people who are willing to be informed and change their view point on the matter (as rare as that may be these days).
Israelis tend to get really fucking triggered when you tell them about:
Israel was literally founded by terrorists who bombed and shot civillians in terror bombings... as in, they explicitly targetted civillians for the chaos factor... and they wrote about this in their own journals and memoirs and then went on to lead the government.
The entire USS Liberty incident, which was almost certainly Israel trying to false flag blow up an American ship during the 6 day war and blame it on the Egyptians, to get the US directly involved.
The Apollo Affair, wherein Israeli sympathizers/spies literally stole US nuclear fissile material from the US to aide in the production of their nuclear weapons (which basically every Western government officially, and society generally, denied they even had nukes untill about a year to 6 months ago).
The Samson Doctrine, Israel's take on nuclear detterance... is more or less this:
If Israel feels like it is going to be nuked or completely invaded, they will nuke major cities in all countries within one to two thousand miles, ally, enemy, neutral, who cares, the logic is to throw as big of a shit fit as possible and declare that if they can't have Israel, no one can have anything, and they'll do all that themselves.
And finally, if you just tell them that Hasbara is a real thing that obviously exists and promotes publically that it will pay anyone who will draft themselves into being an online propaganda troll for Israel.
... Conversely, if anybody were to tell me about all the awful shit the US has done and is doing, I have a functioning moral compass and brain and can say, yep, that shit is/was fucking awful, unnaceptable, and in my ideal world, all those responsible would be in jail or tried as war criminals, in the ICJ for crimes against humanity, Luigi'd, etc.
When that story broke, or video footage emerged of ... around a year ago now...
Of a 'hostage rescue mission'... involving a fucking Merkava point blank firing a main cannon round into the building they believed the hostages and their captors were in, that was also in a large multi family apartment building, with tons of other civillians inside....
I fucking lost it.
Even from the perspective of US Rules of Engagement in Iraq War 2, which was... lets say highly insufficient at prioritizing noncombatant safety, at best...
That is fucking godamned insane nonsense. If a US tank crew had accidentally put a tank round into a densely occupied civillian apartment building, they would have been fucking court matrialled, or it would have been covered up and a decent scandal when it leaked out later.
To do this intentionally? In a hostage rescue mission? And every pro-Israel person either ignores it or is totally fine with it?
Just fucking insane, like parody super hero 'oops, Homelander was gonna save everyone but he got angry or sneezed and lasered the airplane pilots' fucking insane.
When that helicopter gun cam vid of blowing away suspected insurgents first aired in 04 on ABC, it caused a national debate.
In Israel, the last year or so, we get a video like that every other day, and then people stitch themselves into it making demeaning jokes.
Here's the part where some numbnuts will stop to explain, "Not all Jews!" Yeah. We get that. But the Jewish state of Israel, which was founded as a safe haven for Jews, is genocidal as fuck. And who makes up 75% of the population of Israel? Could it be... Jews? Where do 50% of the Jews on the planet reside? Could it be Israel?
And for stating a few unarguable facts, I expect a ban. Maybe I could very sheepishly, on the down-low, suggest that only a radical, very tiny number of Jews are, perhaps, maybe partly, just a bit, guilty of genocide, or at least, are collaborators and supporters?
FFS, no one has the balls to say out loud, "Not a good look guys." <-anti-Semitism
Sincerely:
GenXer who had always supported Israel and had less than zero beef with Jews.
Yeah, I think it's less being Jewish and more that they are settlers. They are acting just like how Canadians, Australians and Afrikaners acted against the local indigenous population.
Anything that reminds them that they don't belong to this land (in their assessment and minds, land does not belong to anyone) they hate that. Mostly the people who were there before them.
The vast majority of Israeli Jews and a significant number (not sure if a majority) of diaspora Jews are actively guilty of perpetuating and aiding Israel's genocide and occupation(s). That's just facts and won't get you banned (at least not from Lemmy). However, generalizing that to the significant fraction of Jews who aren't party to these crimes or are opposing them is antisemitism and will rightly get you banned. There's nothing complicated about this.
Israel is absolutely being genocidal here, but it has nothing to do with them being Jews. They want the land, full stop. They believe they are more entitled to the land than anyone else, full stop.
The fact that they are Jewish is really immaterial and hating "the Jews" because of what Israel is doing is a lot like, I dunno, hating white people because of the various White Supremacist groups.
You have a supremacist government taking genocidal actions, any supremacist government would do the same, it doesn't matter what the heritage is.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but as my ex used to comment (she's Jewish and went to private Jewish school) their religion is very clear in explaining they are the chosen children of God.
Off the bat they are indoctrinated that they are better than all of us.
All I know is my children are less safe in the world because of what the state of Israel is doing and that disgusts me.
So it's a fascist state, which include a support of it's population through nationalism. It doesn't change anything that this nationalism is based on a religion, regional or cultural identity. It's work the same.
Speaking about all the population is cutting ourselves from the ally we have in the 15%. We couldn't say "it's over, we couldn't do anything for those left"; we are the 15% in our own imperialist state. And if you think that this is a different situation, there were German resistance during WW2 ... and they almost kill hitler.
Even if you disagree, why speaking about Jewish people and not just Israeli people ? You just insulting every Jews that choose do not live in Israel. A choice you didn't make.
A return to the pre-war status quo. The withdrawal of Israeli troops, presumably in return for the hostages, with either Hamas or another group equally hostile to Israel in control of Gaza. This is the worst-case scenario for Israel, because it represents a total failure to eliminate the source of more potential October 7 attacks. I suspect it's the worst-case scenario for Gaza too, since future attacks on Israel would lead to future destruction in Gaza.
The destruction of Hamas and the establishment of a Gazan government friendly towards Israel, perhaps by the Palestinian authority or a coalition of Arab states. Very difficult and failure-prone, but a pathway to peace in the long term. I had hoped that this would be the outcome when the war started but it isn't what Netanyahu is trying to accomplish and by now I'm not sure there's enough goodwill left for it to still be possible.
Permanent Israeli occupation. I don't think Israel can maintain such an occupation - it would be extremely expensive in money, lives, and international goodwill. Netanyahu and his supporters seem to think that Israel can, but many of them seem to make plans reliant on divine intervention.
Expulsion of the population of Gaza. Egypt wouldn't accept that without a war. Maybe Trump thinks he can find another country that would, but even if he did (unlikely) then the logistics of moving two million people would be extremely challenging. I think this outcome is effectively impossible - another one of the "divine intervention required" plans. However, it would be a best-case scenario for Israel. The gain in territory means little, but no longer having Gazans as neighbors immediately ends the conflict for good, which no other outcome does.
If (2) isn't going to happen then (4) may be the best case scenario for everyone. Even the people being expelled and their descendants would probably be better off than they would be if they remain in Gaza for for many more decades of conflict. However, I very much doubt that it can happen.
So... a nation and a religion that was defined by its thousand-year exile by an evil empire forces another nation into a thousand-year exile as the acting hand of another evil empire.
Please understand that this is, on every conceivable level, insanely fucked up and flies in the face of both reason and morality.
The best solution would be to have an integrated, secular government and plans for reparation, return, and reconciliation.
There's no reason to assume that ancient israel was any less evil than ancient rome.
Furthemore, that doesn't define judaism. There were thousands of years before and after roman conquest. Zios focus on the roman empire because that's their shitty justification for genocide, theft, etc.
This isn't any more fucked up than the genocide of native americans for example. Unfortunately there's nothing special about empire genociding people. But I don't think these zios are lobbying for native american rights, because zios are genociders.
Lastly this doesn't have much to do with "religion" versus "sucularism". Zionism was largely founded by the non-religious. It's goals are not religious but purely political/genocidal. The most "religious"/spiritual jews largely reject the zionist regime. Religion is a tool of empire, but the more fundamental problems are empire, colonialism, racism, etc.
So your solution is annihilation, let me guess you’re a liberal Zionist or something like that?
There’s only one solution, free Palestine, from the river to the sea. Palestine needs to be decolonized and Palestinians need to be given back what rightfully belongs to them.
Israel as a state should have never been established and this apartheid genocide state just needs to stop existing. All the rabid Zionists who can’t accept that Palestinians are human beings with equal rights can make use of their dual citizenship and leave. Or move to Germany or Hungary or something who seem to love them anyway.
There needs to be Nuremberg process to try all the war criminals and put them behind bars.
As for those who are willing to coexist with Palestinians can stay, but if they live on stolen land or in stolen property they can’t stay there and have to return that to their owners and move somewhere worse.
It's also not realistically achievable without somehow convincing Israel to willingly dismantle itself, given that a) a significant disparity of military power exists between it and Palestine, which isn't likely to reverse any time soon given that it is nigh impossible for Palestine to build an economic base sufficient to rival Israel while under effective occupation and b) that it is an open secret that Isreal possess nuclear weapons, making some kind of foreign invasion suicidally untenable. Actually launching those weapons would be an extremely dangerous move of course, but a state facing a clear and imminent outside threat to it's existence is exactly the kind of situation where someone might contemplate it.
The most likely thing to work out that I can envision would be if foreign support can at least shore up what remains of Palestine enough to give it sovereignty and at a stretch some means of deterrence against further attack. All that really achieves admittedly is a two state solution, which doesn't result in a Palestine with particularly favorable geography, but if it results in peace there's the hope that the hatred involved can cool with time and new generations until some kind of union can be proposed without the resultant state being at risk of collapsing into a genocidal state again.
Apartheid South Africa and Nazi Germany and all the colonies of the empire didn’t dismantle themselves because people asked them to do so. This has to happen through boycott, divestment, sanctions because I don’t think more war would be the answer, and I am against violence in any form.
Make Israel collapse by putting so much pressure on them that they just can’t anymore. Our governments won’t just do this, so we have to do it ourselves. It’s a slow process, but it’s a process and with every escalation by them it speeds up.
Unfortunately it doesn’t help the Gazans who are being annihilated right now, but the future I outlined is the only future Palestinians deserve.
I get the idea, and I'm not opposed to things like that, given that they don't seem likely to worsen the situation and might extract some kind of concession from Israel, but I don't expect that it'd be likely to actually work. Israel is not, for it's similarities, exactly the same as South Africa and Nazi Germany (the latter of which, for that matter, didn't exactly collapse just because of economic sanctions), and sanctions have their limits, else for example North Korea would have collapsed long ago, along with a whole host of other regimes that have gained the ire of significant parts of the world for one reason or another.
South Africa was a nuclear power backed by the same countries that now back the genocide. It was hard to imagine back then that the apartheid would end, but it happened.
Yeah as I said, I’m against violence so I advocate for the boycott solution and not for the Nazi Germany treatment even though some might feel like the Zionists would deserve that…
One other option beyond BDS (and not involving an invasion) would be countries removing diplomatic recognition of Israel and expelling all Israeli diplomats.
This is of course easier said than done, but it's far more viable than any other alternative courses of action.
I recommend you to listen to Ilan Pappé. Israel already is on a trajectory of collapse. The society has many inner rifts.Many people who can afford it leave. The economy would fall apart without the lifeline from its allies. When it comes to anything outside of mass slaughtering civilians, invading countries without leadership and blowing up infrastructure, the IDF is a quite incompetent military.
It will not collapse tomorrow and maybe not in 10 years. But in the long run the zionist project is failing. The question remains how much more genocide Israels allies want to squeeze out of the opportunity.
Do you think maybe not giving an ethnostate unlimited veto support and munitions is an option before your 4 tiers of capitulation of, at best, a return to the apartheid that resulted in Hamas?
Israel won't stop fighting upon gaining the historical borders of Israel & Judah. That was never the final goal, it's just the current justification.
The Israeli state is sort of doomed to be in a constant ethno-religious war with its neighbours, because- 1. the Israeli state is full of fascists. 2. Most of its neighbours have islamic fundamentalist governments, or otherwise have authoritarian power structures that will have to bend to the religious right in times of crisis.
This means that Israel presently relies on an external backer for its security (the US). Its number one policy goal is to change that fact. As a fascist regime, it's only really got one tool, which is to invade its enemies and engage in settler-colonialism (google Greater Israel). Like it's doing in Gaza. The fringe ultra-right in Israel are already calling to annex Lebanon, to "eliminate Hezbollah".
This is also doomed to fail and cause even more misery.
Yeah I think there are some issues with my analysis, esp my understanding of the relationship between the Egyptian & Syrian govt, and their nations' islamic fundamentalists. Neighbours isn't the best way to frame it, but, regional opponents? Chiefly: Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran & Arabia (though the Saudis have a sort of dual character, since they have to appease the west).
This means that Israel presently relies on an external backer for its security (the US).
Makes you wonder if Israel is trying to grab as much land as possible and eliminate as many people who might have competing claims on that land as possible before the US collapses economically (and with that their giant military budget) now that Donald Trump is doing his best to make that a reality.
Even if they managed to aquire no. 2, many Israeli settlers won't accept this and will keep driving off Palestinians. With media attention focused on gaza, hostages, and the genocide war or Endlösung of the Palestinian question, those settlers openly drive out or outright kill people living on the land longer than Israel exists. Peace in Gaza won't stop this.
Hamas isn't the problem. Both Hamas and the PA tried peace and a 2-state solution along 1967 borders. The Arab League offered peace and normalization to Israel on similar terms in 2002. Israel, specifically the right which keeps winning elections, rejected all peace attempts. Netanyahu's party the Likud adheres to the ideology of Jabotinsky and refuses any Palestinian statehood at all:
[It is the] iron law of every colonizing movement, a law which knows of no exceptions, a law which existed in all times and under all circumstances. If you wish to colonize a land in which people are already living, you must provide a garrison on your behalf. Or else – or else, give up your colonization, for without an armed force which will render physically impossible any attempts to destroy or prevent this colonization, colonization is impossible, not “difficult”, not “dangerous” but IMPOSSIBLE! … Zionism is a colonizing adventure and therefore it stands or falls by the question of armed force. It is important to build, it is important to speak Hebrew, but, unfortunately, it is even more important to be able to shoot – or else I am through with playing at colonialization.
As quoted by Lenni Brenner, in The Iron Wall: Zionist Revisionism from Jabotinsky to Shamir (1984), where the quotation is cited as being from "The Iron Law"
Jabotinsky wanted to go further and claim both banks of the Jordan river. Today in Israel talks of annexing Lebanon, Syria and beyond as part of Greater Israel are becoming more mainstream.
"Israeli government accounts on the social media site X have been posting a video with a quote from a freed hostage, in which she says that “there are no innocent civilians” in Gaza."
Israeli government accounts on X have been posting a video with a quote from a freed Israeli hostage, where she says “there are no innocent civilians” in Gaza.
Why do you inquiry people based on their religion, and not their social class or nationality ? Or their implication in the settlements ? They may have interesting numbers their, but this poll decided to racialize the conflict.
Why shall we trust a poll in fascist state at war, that conclude that the leader have the support of the nationality of that fascim ? That really seems like propaganda.
That's not the point. This a fascist state, which imply a massive support from the population, their is no debate.
So we have to stop being so naive. What say those numbers ? Who allow those numbers to exists ? What those numbers do not tell ? Why nobody ask themselves those questions ?
Those numbers in showing racial struggle may hide social struggle or imperialist struggle
in a fascist state at ware, this poll could have been invisibilized or forbid by the Israel. So, it may help it's propaganda
I don't think any difference in the support of Israeli people to they fascist government that the support of people in western countries to their own government. In focusing in this imperialistic situation, may be a lot of people could avoid to fight it. Even if we are more efficient their, and it's may help Palestine
Finally, some racist people may attack jews around the world because of the confusion made between us and Israel. And again, that confusion is one of the objective of Israel propaganda
All my statements are against the state of Israel (and any imperialist state), and against Zionism (and every state nationalism). I'm just afraid that people are confused between jews and zionist. And you short reading trend to prove my right
Why do you inquiry people based on their religion, and not their social class or nationality ?
Because Israel, in effect, has two different nationalities: Jewish Israeli and Palestinian Israeli. Polling without considering this simply results in less useful data.
Nationalities (or citizenships has pointed by @Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) are made by the ruling class, and have no reality in it-selves. I don't say we couldn't used those categories, but we have to stay critic.
If not, we will hide some solidarity or antagonism between class. Israel threat a lot of people, including Jews (Falashas, Sefarad, Yiddish, ...), and is supported by anti-semits (radical evangelists, far right party, nazi organization), ...
A poll based on legal categories in an apartheid state is accurate. However, using the name chosen by the nationalist propaganda (i.e "Jews" and not "Jewish Citizenship") is taking part in this propaganda, and have disastrous effect.
Israel does this almost unique thing in the World which is split Citizenship from Nationality, with those who have the former only having the latter if they're Jews (constitutionally only a Jew can be an Israeli national). Further Israeli Citizenship is broken into Jewish Israeli and Non-Jewish Israeli, with the latter having less rights than the former (for example, Non-Jewish Israeli Citizens require "authorization" from local authorities to go live in certain parts of the country).
Israel was set up as an Apartheid state from the very beginning.
That said the other poster made a mistake: Palestinians are not Israelis - not even Non-Jewish Israeli Citizens - and have no rights at all in Israel. Further, there is no right to Israeli Citizenship by being born in Israel (unless you're a Jew: any Jew, anywhere in the World, has a right to Israeli Nationality, which also gives them Jewish Israeli Citizenship).
This has interesting effects such as people whose families have lived in Jerusalem for generations not having Israeli Citizenship because it was denied to them even though they were born there and lived there their whole lives. Of course, all of these people are not Jewish as all Jews constitutionally have a right to Israeli Nationality.
So By Law Israel has 3 different classes of people living there, in decreasing order of the rights they have: - Jews, which by law are all Israeli Nationals (a Jew can literally arrive in Tel-Aviv, ask for Israeli Nationality and get it) and hence are also Jewish Israeli Citizens. - Non-Jewish Israeli Citizens - Non-Israeli Citizen, which includes all Palestinians even those born in the territory of Israel as Israel can and frequently does simply refuse to give them even just Non-Jewish Israeli Citizenship.
The don't gatekeep Jewishness, they gatekeep Israeli Nationality on the basis of being Jewish or not.
I have no idea how they determine who is a Jew and who is not.
What I do know, which is pretty damn interesting, is that Etiopian Jews, who are Black, did got Israeli Nationality when they came to Israel and asked for it, same as all other Jews but from what I read the State Of Israel still treated them differently (for example, see here, though this being Britain and the BBC they're likely reporting a milder subset of reality).
Protests over the beating of an Ethiopian Israeli soldier have thrown the spotlight on the Ethiopian Jewish community in Israel, writes Prof Yossi Mekelberg.
No, it's not. Again the biggest organization that support zionism is evangelist. A lot of atheist people are atheist, and a lot of jews are not zionist, or are anti-zionist. You making short link that break solidarity and make confusion their.
Yes religion used to justify nationalism, colonialist, imperialist and apaththeid... as a propaganda. We don't fighting Israej in repeating its propaganda.
Yiddish culture has piratically been destroy by Israel policy. Jews from Ethiopia (Falashas) has been sterilized by force the Israel. Being Jews or not is unrelated with Israel.
The ideology that the jewish people are owed the promised land of Jerusalem, by god, and that any means to control that holy land are justified, is 100% absolutely a RELIGIOUS extremist beleif.
During demo for palestine, we were a lot of Jews; some not practising, some without belief, and some orthodoxe. If you are surprised, by one of those statement, you may reconsider what you think of who are jews or not; because is neither to you or Israel to decide.
Christian Bible said that everyone have to be convert; I would not say that every Christian are intolerant to other bielief. It's obvious that every christians to not believe in eevrything in the bible. Why Jews couldn't do the same with the Torah ?
Living in a land is unrelated to forbid anyone else to do the same. Jews where diving there for millennium before the colonization. And finally, if you thing that we all have to be fundamentalists, the Torah said that the diaspora is is a divine punition, and that this is the role of the messiah to lead us to Israel. Lots of orthodoxe are anti-zionist saying that only god thogh the messiah could allow us to move in Israel.
No Zionist are not jews extremists. . Some Jews extremist are, and zionist are not jews. Some Zionist are christians extremist, some zionist are atheist. Zionism is preteding to defend Jewish people. Its racist and colonial against people of Palestine, people from maghreb or Africa, and it could be antisemitic too : lemmy.wtf/post/22551217
waiting for bill maher who claimed muslims were inferior because some muslim countries supposedly supported this and that according to random polls. surely he will be consistent.
About 800,000 Germans were arrested during the war for actively resisting. That's about 1% of the population arrested. And these were just the bravest ones. The less glorious ones are probably a bigger number.
That's not to deny that a majority was supporting the Nazis. That's to make the distinction between "most" and "all".
My understanding is that Israeli TV is hugely responsible for making this mainstream. Just like in Rwanda where radio played a huge role in the genocide.
It's almost as if genocide scholars have been warning about a series of patterns over the last couple of years...
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Serious question, how much of this has to do with hamas not releasing the hostages. I would imagine they’d be hearing and talking bout getting their people back constantly.
It's hard to say. With or without hostages, October 7 was extremely traumatic; and came in the context of a population already primed to be suspicious of Palestinians. In particular, the West Bank ethnic cleansing was already well underway with the tacit support of the general population; as although for most people that support was more about apathy than proactive support. Looking at how the US lost its shit for decades after 9/11, it is clear that hostages are not necessary for that to happen. Israel has also to deal with follow up attacks, which has a way of keeping trauma fresh.
Regarding the role of the hostages in this case, the first thing to acknowledge is that the actual response by Israel has not prioritized the hostages. Critical members of Israel's current governing coalition have threatened to leave over prior attempts at a hostage deal. This has lead a serious rift developing between the current government and many of the hostage families.
However, from a propaganda side, the hostages have been a major assesset to the current government (both internationally and domestically). Most people are simply not that engaged in politics. We have heard repeatedly from Israeli military leadership that there are no achievat military goals left in Gaza. However, it is hard for that message to break through when the other side can point to the hostages and say "freeing those people is our goal". Nevermind the fact that everyone paying attention knows that military action is not an effective tool of hostage release [0] and almost all of the freed hostages have been freed as a result of diplomacy.
[0] It can be useful for leverage in negotiations; but Israel is well past the point needed for that.
Most of October 7 was a crime, even without the hostages. Taking the hostages was itself a crime, and continuing to hold them continues to be a crime.
The question of what Hamas "should" do is more complicated. Clearly following international law is not a priority for them, so that justification goes out the window.
In terms of actually advancing their interests, I don't see much benefit to them. Their biggest asset in Israeli domestic politics are the hostages. The political pressure in Israel to free them is real, and the decision makers all know that a deal is the only way to meet that. Further, a not insignificant portion of the population oppose the war in it's current form specifically because of the hostages. The only wins Hamas has gotten has been through hostage negotiations.
In exchange for giving all of that up, Hamas gets a slight benefit in the PR war. It is a very hard sell to say that is a good trade.
If you want Hamas to free the hostages, you need to get to a point where "Hamas should free the hostages" is true from the perspective of Hamas. Then, you can work on convincing them it is true. The good news is that Hamas is very amenable to the idea that releasing hostages is in their interest. That is the entire reason you take hostages: to get some benefit by releasing them.
I am using "should" in a moral sense, according to my own moral compass. I mean that according to my own morality they "should do the right thing". Nothing beyond that.
Netanyahu want to continue the genocide even after hostages are released . Don't tell the oppressed what to do when the west been ignoring 57 years of occupation and dozens of atrocities like 7 of October through history .
You should ask for Israel to end occupation, allow a one or two state solution then bring people responsible of atrocities on both side
Go through my comment history buddy, you're preaching to the choir. The fact that the Israeli apartheid regime is committing genocide is one thing. The fact that Hamas should not have taken non-combatant hostages is another. And sorry but no, I refuse to identify Hamas with "the oppressed". They are fanatics propped up by slave-owners in the Gulf and politically useful idiots of the Israeili apartheid regime.
You are an idealist ignoring history and human psychology .It would be cool if there was a resistance group that do not target any civilians and do not get money from shady group. This was never the case. I can got in history and see ton of massacre commited by the oppressed due to oppresion. Like nana sahib in india promising safety to a bunch of british civilians amd soldier and ending up massacring them.
Palestinians won't stay silence and keep hearing the useless both commited attrocities bs , waiting arabs and west countries to help which they will never do.
I don't support hamas, i support their actions against the idf terrorists only
Talking about a useful idiot, that's the palestinian autority collaborating with israel while israel arm and protect violent terrorists settlers and expanding settlements
You are so hardcore and knowledgeable of human history and psychology. So hardcore. Yea.
Look buddy. The world fucking sucks, right? People do horrible things. People are locked into doing horrible things. People are desperate, and brutalized and traumatized and beaten down. You can look at that and say, yea that's how it is.
Or you can look at it and say We Should Do Better. You call that idealism? Good. In a world where reality is becoming more brutal by the hour, maybe a little idealism is what exactly we need.
Go through my comment history buddy, you’re preaching to the choir.
Ending the occupation is the obvious solution. The occupation and the apartheid is the root of all this shit.
Here's the catch for you though: ending the occupation is not realistic, it's the most idealistic thing one could be asking for right now. Because the reality on the ground, created by decades of colonization is that it is simply politically impossible to extract about a million settlers from the West Bank. So "ending the occupation" is exactly the kind of idealism that I'm also pushing for (like "don't take kids hostages"). Because if we are talking about a real liberation scenario, in the best case, we are talking about some kind of post-apartheid mess. Maybe some kind of civil war too.
So don't you fucking run your mouth at me about history and human psychology. I'm tired of supposed hardcore know-it-alls. Hayde malaka.
Go through my comment history buddy, you’re preaching to the choir.
I don't care about your comment history. You keep saying you oppose occupation then deny Palestinians right to armed resistance.
Here's the catch for you though: ending the occupation is not realistic, it's the most idealistic thing one could be asking for right now.
Here the catch, no occupied country knew that one day there will liberate themselves from occupation, they just has to do what they have to do.
Ending occupation by all mean necessary is certainly more realistic then yelling in the cloud stop occupation and expect the occupier to stop occupying.
Because the reality on the ground, created by decades of colonization is that it is simply politically impossible to extract about a million settlers from the West Bank. So "ending the occupation" is exactly the kind of idealism that I'm also pushing for (like "don't take kids hostages").
That's why I ask for a one state solution. This is also ending the occupation and the only solution to stop violence on both side. Do you agree that a one state solution is the best option and this would happen only if Israel is weaken military and economically?
Strategically, we are aligned, we are in agreement. Yes, a bi-/pluri- national successor democracy with equal rights for all people, Muslim, Jewish, Christian, etc, Arab, Ashkenazi, Sephardic, Druze, etc. Indigenous, Migrant, Refugee, etc. Yes. With democracy and equal rights to all. With safety to all. A state and a society that would honour the Nakba AND the Holocaust.
Tactically, no. I am not denying Palestinians the right to armed resistance. I am denying them the right to cruelty. Killing, injuring, capturing soldiers in battle? That's their right and god damn it I cheer them when they do it. Doing the same things to civilians? Fuck. No. I maintain the need for moral clarity in this shit that we are in. And that's our difference: you are embracing a kind of pseudo-revolutionary nihilism that is willing to accept cruelty if it comes from the below. You pretend that is somehow "by all means necessary", as if kidnapping kids is ever "necessary". Fuck. No. Your politics is anti-political, it is a dead-end, there is no possibility for a future, just hatred and larping Malcolm X. You want an end to the violence? Good. Start acting like it.
The 7 of October atrocities would never happen if the UN country members did all they can do to stop the occupation. They could all decide to isolate Israel economically in the first year of Israel occupying Gaza and the west bank.
Before 7 of October the west countries population completely forgot about the 5 decades of occupation. The western leaders continued to support Israel with arms and economical exchange. The Arab countries was going to sign the Abraham accord isolating Palestinians even more , Israel never stopped building new settlements , they armed the settlers and are protecting them from legal persecution when they attack Palestinians. Israel left Gaza military and decided to control it from the outside. That mean Hamas would have never been able to do such a big operation that would shake the world and reminds the west and Arab countries for their duty to stop the occupation which again decide to ignore their duty and think that some smoke screen action would stop the occupation
I don't think there is a resistance group that didn't do act of terrorism due to oppression and desperation , technically and in real world you are denying Palestinians from armed resistance given by international laws. Without realizing it you basically adopt the status quo both side did terrible things and occupation will maintain.
I will continue to support the resistance actions of defense against the IDF and condemn the atrocities they did until a better resistance group appear or occupation end. I would call for punishing any person who participated in atrocities once occupation end.
Given the thousands of Palestinians taken hostage by Israel both before and after Oct 7, the vast majority of which are non-combatants and are held in nightmarish conditions. How else would Hamas negotiate for their release except via a hostage exchange? Are they supposed to just give up the only bargaining chip they have?
I don't appreciate these "what else should they do" questions. I've been debating pro-zionist trolls for two years now and I no longer accept even their premise. I'm not going to turn around and apply it to Hamas.
I think holding hostages for the sake of getting your own people back from a genocidal ethnostate is maybe a little more justifiable then Zionist apologia for genocide. But maybe that's just me.
The genocidal ideology of zionism is their hegemonic narrative. It's much bigger than just TV. It's also the schools, politicians, cops/prisons, compulsory militants, etc. Genocide is the basis of their entire "society".
I don't think that's fair, they do absolutely teach Zionism from a young age, but it's not specifically genocide. Watched an interesting documentary recently about Jews in America and how they're raised, it's basically once you get pushed into the IDF THEN the genocide love starts being actively spread.
I noticed on LinkedIn that a ton of my former colleagues from Israel are now in the US. I think shifting demographics as progressives leave are a bigger part of the story than the shifting opinions these stories have been about.
The wider truth is that anyone who's remotely sane or empathetic is driven out of the zio regime. I have a friend who grew up under the regime and resisted the mandatory terrorism. He was put in prison, then he was harassed and threatened with death until he fled to USA. This dude is an exceptionally great person and for that reason he was violently forced out.
So whom does that leave over there? Only the most genocidal wackos. Thus, this completely unsurprising poll.
Also work the other way around, Jewish people from around the world that don't accept the genocide being committed on their name are not going to move to Israel, while tha ones that are OK and support it are more likely to move in and participate directly.
If you are part of a minority that was trampled on for a long, long period of time, being targeted for anhiliation and now, having a somewhat safe nation for not even 80 years within a sea of other nations wanting to destroy them... well, i absolutely can understand them to ensure their safety whatever it takes. Yeah, it may not be pretty (or to be more precise: Often outright gross), it may not be "fair"... but i can understand that they don't want to take any chances.
Sadly, I can understand that too. My understanding is that most suicide bombers are people with little to no future prospects who are either doing it because thier family will be rewarded in this life, or are convinced by others tgat they will be rewarded in the next life. They also tend to be gullible. Often they are as much a victim as those they kill. The ones we convinced them to do it, and gave them the bomb or what not. Those are the truely evil ones.
I think at this moment the total annihilation of one of the two sides is ineviteable, too much blood has been spilled too much atrocities were conducted on both sides.
Oh i can understand them also very well... but this doesn't change anything. Neither side is "good" or "bad" over there, both sides have very good reasons to keep on fighting.
No, I think the side using starvation tactics and bombing civilians is pretty bad. Sounds like war crimes to me in terms of definition we've all agreed upon.
How about the side using suicide bombers and defaulting to terrorism? Shooting unguided rockets into the general direction of a city also does not scream "good guys", am i right?
Who's actually using terrorism? Maybe the terrorists that have murdered tens of thousands of children? Expelled people from their homes? Stolen land and still stealing more in several countries?
I can't even imagine being this dumb. Phony account probably.
I agree, but I will add that they are also indoctrinated from a young age to hate or fear the Palestinians. I don't really think the long history means as much other than an excuse to continue the indoctrination.
I mean if I grew up being told the neighbor was a dangeous crazy heathen that is hell bent on killing me. And that neighbor occasionally threw explosives over the fence. I would want them gone no matter if they had a good reason or what not.
Article is walled, so I couldn't read it. But I bet the questions were setup to differentiate expelling them from killing them. So I can understand a lot of people wanting the Palestinians gone. That doesn't mean the same number agree with what is being done to make it happen.
I agree, but I will add that they are also indoctrinated from a young age to hate or fear the Palestinians. I don’t really think the long history means as much other than an excuse to continue the indoctrination.
The same could be said for the other side... which is the reason i think this conflict is absolutely hopeless...
I care as much about the Palestinians as i care about the Israelis... from my personal point of view i have as much emotional investment in them as with any other people that kill eachother in other parts of the world, so not very much.
No you don't. If you care about both you would advocate for ending the occupation instead of saying that you understand that some jews want genociding palestinians who has nothing to do with the nazis that almost genocided them .
It's like you if you where alive during Nate Turner revolt saying I care about both salves and slaves owners
If you are part of a minority that was trampled on for a long, long period of time,
It's anti-semitic to conflate judaism with zionism. Zionists were collaborating with the nazis and using the holocaust to steal land in palestine during ww2.
I can't trust a poll that claims nearly universal support for a Genocidal government. A phony poll like that would be exactly the kind of propaganda an immoral government would spread.
Here in America, if the MAGA Nazi government claimed 82% supported them, I would literally laugh at it.
Governments like Israel and MAGA can't be trusted with anything. They are ALWAYS lying.
If you know anything about the genocidal ideology of zionism, this should be absolutely no surprise. It's always been like this. Haven't people watched any interviews with zios? Don't y'all know any zios? These people are brainwashed racists at best.
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For years Israel has been running around the world, waving their foes statements about “pushing Israel into the sea” as a call to arms against atrocity.
And now here they are, committing that very atrocity. But genocide seems inevitable when your stated goal is to be an ethnostate.
as someone with Israeli friends, I always figured this to be the case. they bemoan having to think about bomb shelters because of the occasional rocket that gets fired over into israel. they legitimately believe that Muslim countries hate them, and Muslims in general want to kill them. they live in the Old testament of the Bible, and anything that happens to Gaza is the will of God.
They are not wrong though, there are plenty of Muslims in the surrounding states that believe Jewish people are evil and should be exterminated, not because of anything happening in the real world but because they are being told that they'll have to fight and kill them during the end times anyway.
Jew lived in yemen - Iraq - Palestine - Egypt - Morocco - Iran for hundred of years. Saying Arab hate jew is propaganda.
The hate is for Israeli and those who supported them through the year while they genocide - destroy villages- cites- farms- didnt allow people to go back home.. in fact they kick them out of their own home and allowing an American zionist Jew to just take the land.
They build shelter because they know they are a colony and sooner or later people of the land will attempt to get them back. Not because “Arab hate them”
It's also starting to get really obvious isn't it? I mean, you really have to be provincial. I'm actually thinking of moving to the country and trying bigotry for a bit myself. You know, before we've missed it completely. It's just that there's a really good shawarma place round the corner from us here.
I don't even know what to say to you, but your interpretation of what I wrote is so over the top that I can just assume that you're trolling. I especially liked the bit where you turned some Muslims into all Arabs, as if they are one and the same and all the same.
Jee I wonder what could have happened that made them hate jews that much. You know, the same jews who used to live in north africa for milleniums without anybody gazing them but the french
Uh, no. They live in the living memory of the Six-Day War. I'm not going to defend the behavior of the current Israeli government, but in no way are they just living out the biases the Old Testament when they think neighboring Arab states are antagonistic to them. They remember 1967, and if you think that all neighboring Arab states have done a 180 from where they were then, you're very much wrong.
“they legitimately believe that Muslim countries hate them, and Muslims in general want to kill them”
Do you have any experience with the press in their neighboring countries? There are absolutely some sources pushing this narrative in the opinion sections from time to time. I used to read The Daily Star (Lebanon) to follow Israeli news from a non-Israeli perspective and would see this in that paper a few times a year.
By no means am I suggesting that the billions of Muslims uniformly want to kill Israelis but the percentage that does isn’t zero.
They’ve literally been doing this shit since they pushed the Palestinians out of the way almost eighty fucking years ago. Of course the population is okay with it.
db0 set up an AI image generator bot both on the Threadverse and Mastodon some time back for anyone to use. All one needs to do is mention it in a comment followed by the text "draw for me" and then prompt text, and it'll respond with some generated images. For example:
@aihorde@lemmy.dbzer0.com draw for me An engraving of a skunk.
The bot has apparently been active for some time and it looks like few people were aware that it existed or used it --- I certainly wasn't!
I don't know whether it will work in this community, as this community says that it prohibits most bots from operating here. However, I set up a test thread over here on !test@sh.itjust.works to try it out, where it definitely does work; I was exploring some of how it functions there, and if you're looking for a test place to try it out, that should work!
It farms out the compute work to various people who are donating time on their GPUs via AI Horde.
The FAQ for the bot is here. For those familiar with local image generation, it supports a number of different models.
The default model is Flux, which is, I think, a good choice --- that takes English-like sentences describing a picture, and is pretty easy to use without a lot of time reading documentation.
A few notes:
The bot disallows NSFW image generation, and if it detects one, it'll impose a one-day tempban on its use to try to make it harder for people searching for loopholes to generate them.
There appears to me in my brief testing to be some kind of per-user rate limit. db0 says that he does have a rate limit on Mastodon, but wasn't sure whether he put one on Lemmy, so if you might only be able to generate so many images so quickly.
The way one chooses a model is to change the "style" by ending the prompt text with "style: stylename". Some of these styles entail use of a different model; among other things, it's got models specializing in furry images; there's a substantial furry fandom crowd here. There's a list of supported styles here with sample images.
db0 has encouraged people to use it in that test post and in another thread where we were discussing this, says have fun. I wanted to post here to give it some visibility, since I think that a lot of people, like me, have been unaware that has been available. Especially for people on phones or older computers, doing local AI image generation on GPUs really isn't an option, and this lets folks who do have GPUs share them with those folks.
GENEVA – UN experts today called for safe passage for the Freedom Flotilla Coalition’s ship carrying essential medical aid, food, and baby supplies to Gaza which departed from Italy on 1 June 2025.
“Aid is desperately needed for the people of Gaza to forestall annihilation, and this initiative is a symbolic and powerful effort to deliver it. Israel should remember that the world is watching closely and refrain from any act of hostility against the Freedom Flotilla Coalition and its passengers,” the experts said.
“The people of Gaza have the right to receive aid through their own territorial waters even under occupation, and the Coalition ship has the right to free passage in international waters to reach the people of Gaza,” they said. “Israel must not interfere with its freedom of navigation, long recognised under international law.”
Understanding why and how the US Empire is dying and what needs to be done to bring about Socialism is comforting.
Fuck it, shameless plug: check out my "Read Theory, Darn it!" introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list if you don't know where to start but want to begin with theory.
It's time to read theory, comrades! As Lenin says, "Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle." Reading theory helps us identify the core contradictions within modern society, analyze their trajectories, and gives us the tools to break free. Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components, as noted by Lenin in his pamphlet The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism: | Audiobook
Dialectical and Historical Materialism
Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value
Advocacy for Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
As such, I created the following list to take you from no knowledge whatsoever of Leftist theory, and leave you with a strong understanding of the critical fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism in an order that builds up as you read. Let's get started!
Section I: Getting Started
What the heck is Communism, anyways? For that matter, what is fascism?
Breaks down fascism and its mortal enemy, Communism, as well as their antagonistic relationship. Understanding what fascism is, where and when it rises, why it does so, and how to banish it forever is critical. Parenti also helps debunk common anti-Communist myths, from both the "left" and the right, in a quick-witted writing style. This is also an excellent time to watch the famous speech.
Section II: Historical and Dialectical Materialism
By far my favorite primer on Marxist philosophy. By understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism-Leninism. Don't be intimidated!
Further reading on Dialectical and Historical Materialism, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, explaining how Capitalism itself prepares the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates. This is also where Engels talks about the failures of previous "Utopian" Socialists.
Section III: Political Economy
That's right, it's time for the Law of Value and a deep-dive into Imperialism. If we are to defeat Capitalism, we must learn it's mechanisms, tendencies, contradictions, and laws.
Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value. Marx is targetting those not trained in economics here, but you might want to keep a pen and some paper to follow along if you are a visual person.
Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions. Marxist-Leninists understand that Imperialism is the greatest contradiction in the modern era, which cascades downward into all manner of related contradictions. Knowing what dying Capitalism looks like, and how it behaves, means we can kill it.
Section IV: Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
Can we defeat Capitalism at the ballot box? What about just defeating fascism? What about the role of the state?
If Marxists believed reforming Capitalist society was possible, we would be the first in line for it. Sadly, it isn't possible, which Luxemburg proves in this monumental writing.
Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, without needing to be replaced with one that is run by the workers, in their own interests.
Section V: Intersectionality and Solidarity
The revolution will not be fought by atomized individuals, but by an intersectional, international working class movement. Intersectionality is critical, because it allows different marginalized groups to work together in collective interest, unifying into a broad movement.
Critical reading on understanding misogyny, transphobia, enbyphobia, pluralphobia, and homophobia, as well as how to move beyond the base subject of "gender." Uses the foundations built up in the previous works to analyze gender theory from a Historical Materialist perspective.
De-colonialism is essential to Marxism. Without having a strong, de-colonial, internationalist stance, we have no path to victory nor a path to justice. Fanon analyzes Colonialism's dehumanizing effects, and lays out how to form a de-colonial movement, as well as its necessity.
Solidarity and intersectionality are the key to any social movement. When different social groups fight for liberation together along intersectional lines, the movements are emboldened and empowered ever-further.
Section VI: Putting it into Practice!
It's not enough to endlessly read, you must put theory to practice. That is how you can improve yourself and the movements you support. Touch grass!
Mao wrote simply and directly, targeting peasant soldiers during the Revolutionary War in China. This pair of essays equip the reader with the ability to apply the analytical tools of Dialectical Materialism to their every day practice, and better understand problems.
Congratulations, you completed your introductory reading course!
With your new understanding and knowledge of Marxism-Leninism, here is a mini What is to be Done? of your own to follow, and take with you as practical advice.
Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to us to protect ourselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it.
Read theory. Don't think that you are done now! Just because you have the basics, doesn't mean you know more than you do. If you have not investigated a subject, don't speak on it! Don't speak nonsense, but listen!
Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground, let nobody be forgotten or left behind. There is strength in numbers, when one marginalized group is targeted, many more are sure to follow.
Be industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well.
Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. Liberals will not save us, we must save each other.
Be persistent. If you feel like a single water droplet against a mountain, think of canyons and valleys. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.
"Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent."
Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) is a national organization of revolutionaries fighting for socialism in the United States. Our home is in the working class.
Wait I’m intrigued that there’s a happy ending in the long run? I’m super ignorant in this area but like…have other countries we view as relatively socialist (Euro stuff?) gone through a similar process that the US is going through? Definitely looking for some optimism these days.
Europe isn't Socialist, it's Capitalist but more solidly focused on welfare. Just like the US (and Canada) though, they depend on massive exploitation of the global south. Marxists call this "Imperialism." Imperialism is the highest, dying stage of Capitalism, where Capitalism cannot sustain itself internally and seeks external sources to prolong itself. Imperialism also causes the Imperialized to go against it, though, and because industrialized production largely gets shipped overseas, this leaves Imperialist countries in struggle.
Right now, Trump is trying to restart USian manufacturing, but it isn't working. China is quickly overtaking it, because it is both a Socialist country and therefore can more effectively plan for the long term, and has a far larger industrial capacity.
The optimism is that it will likely get better after it gets worse. Imperialism needs to be killed, but in killing it we can move beyond financial dominance and into a collaborative, industrialized economy based on collective planning, ie Socialism. In short, revolution allows us to shift from a privately driven economy to a publicly driven economy, and this revolution becomes more likely as time goes on due to conditions worsening. Capitalism can't save itself because it isn't profitable to reindustrialize, due to an era of financial dominance, only a massive FDR style New Deal could delay this process, or people continuing to capitulate to the US Empire.
Fuck it, shameless plug: check out my "Read Theory, Darn it!" introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list if you don't know where to start but want to begin with theory.
It's time to read theory, comrades! As Lenin says, "Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle." Reading theory helps us identify the core contradictions within modern society, analyze their trajectories, and gives us the tools to break free. Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components, as noted by Lenin in his pamphlet The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism: | Audiobook
Dialectical and Historical Materialism
Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value
Advocacy for Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
As such, I created the following list to take you from no knowledge whatsoever of Leftist theory, and leave you with a strong understanding of the critical fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism in an order that builds up as you read. Let's get started!
Section I: Getting Started
What the heck is Communism, anyways? For that matter, what is fascism?
Breaks down fascism and its mortal enemy, Communism, as well as their antagonistic relationship. Understanding what fascism is, where and when it rises, why it does so, and how to banish it forever is critical. Parenti also helps debunk common anti-Communist myths, from both the "left" and the right, in a quick-witted writing style. This is also an excellent time to watch the famous speech.
Section II: Historical and Dialectical Materialism
By far my favorite primer on Marxist philosophy. By understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism-Leninism. Don't be intimidated!
Further reading on Dialectical and Historical Materialism, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, explaining how Capitalism itself prepares the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates. This is also where Engels talks about the failures of previous "Utopian" Socialists.
Section III: Political Economy
That's right, it's time for the Law of Value and a deep-dive into Imperialism. If we are to defeat Capitalism, we must learn it's mechanisms, tendencies, contradictions, and laws.
Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value. Marx is targetting those not trained in economics here, but you might want to keep a pen and some paper to follow along if you are a visual person.
Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions. Marxist-Leninists understand that Imperialism is the greatest contradiction in the modern era, which cascades downward into all manner of related contradictions. Knowing what dying Capitalism looks like, and how it behaves, means we can kill it.
Section IV: Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
Can we defeat Capitalism at the ballot box? What about just defeating fascism? What about the role of the state?
If Marxists believed reforming Capitalist society was possible, we would be the first in line for it. Sadly, it isn't possible, which Luxemburg proves in this monumental writing.
Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, without needing to be replaced with one that is run by the workers, in their own interests.
Section V: Intersectionality and Solidarity
The revolution will not be fought by atomized individuals, but by an intersectional, international working class movement. Intersectionality is critical, because it allows different marginalized groups to work together in collective interest, unifying into a broad movement.
Critical reading on understanding misogyny, transphobia, enbyphobia, pluralphobia, and homophobia, as well as how to move beyond the base subject of "gender." Uses the foundations built up in the previous works to analyze gender theory from a Historical Materialist perspective.
De-colonialism is essential to Marxism. Without having a strong, de-colonial, internationalist stance, we have no path to victory nor a path to justice. Fanon analyzes Colonialism's dehumanizing effects, and lays out how to form a de-colonial movement, as well as its necessity.
Solidarity and intersectionality are the key to any social movement. When different social groups fight for liberation together along intersectional lines, the movements are emboldened and empowered ever-further.
Section VI: Putting it into Practice!
It's not enough to endlessly read, you must put theory to practice. That is how you can improve yourself and the movements you support. Touch grass!
Mao wrote simply and directly, targeting peasant soldiers during the Revolutionary War in China. This pair of essays equip the reader with the ability to apply the analytical tools of Dialectical Materialism to their every day practice, and better understand problems.
Congratulations, you completed your introductory reading course!
With your new understanding and knowledge of Marxism-Leninism, here is a mini What is to be Done? of your own to follow, and take with you as practical advice.
Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to us to protect ourselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it.
Read theory. Don't think that you are done now! Just because you have the basics, doesn't mean you know more than you do. If you have not investigated a subject, don't speak on it! Don't speak nonsense, but listen!
Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground, let nobody be forgotten or left behind. There is strength in numbers, when one marginalized group is targeted, many more are sure to follow.
Be industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well.
Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. Liberals will not save us, we must save each other.
Be persistent. If you feel like a single water droplet against a mountain, think of canyons and valleys. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.
"Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent."
Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) is a national organization of revolutionaries fighting for socialism in the United States. Our home is in the working class.
Really good book! A little bit inaccessible in the first two chapters though.
Jokes aside, a good start is to join a socialist org, participate, and start developing yourself politically. I believe cowbee has a good reading list.
It's time to read theory, comrades! As Lenin says, "Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle." Reading theory helps us identify the core contradictions within modern society, analyze their trajectories, and gives us the tools to break free. Marxism-Leninism is broken into 3 major components, as noted by Lenin in his pamphlet The Three Sources and Three Component Parts of Marxism: | Audiobook
Dialectical and Historical Materialism
Critique of Capitalism along the lines of Marx's Law of Value
Advocacy for Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
As such, I created the following list to take you from no knowledge whatsoever of Leftist theory, and leave you with a strong understanding of the critical fundamentals of Marxism-Leninism in an order that builds up as you read. Let's get started!
Section I: Getting Started
What the heck is Communism, anyways? For that matter, what is fascism?
Breaks down fascism and its mortal enemy, Communism, as well as their antagonistic relationship. Understanding what fascism is, where and when it rises, why it does so, and how to banish it forever is critical. Parenti also helps debunk common anti-Communist myths, from both the "left" and the right, in a quick-witted writing style. This is also an excellent time to watch the famous speech.
Section II: Historical and Dialectical Materialism
By far my favorite primer on Marxist philosophy. By understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism first, you make it easier to understand the rest of Marxism-Leninism. Don't be intimidated!
Further reading on Dialectical and Historical Materialism, but crucially introduces the why of Scientific Socialism, explaining how Capitalism itself prepares the conditions for public ownership and planning by centralizing itself into monopolist syndicates. This is also where Engels talks about the failures of previous "Utopian" Socialists.
Section III: Political Economy
That's right, it's time for the Law of Value and a deep-dive into Imperialism. If we are to defeat Capitalism, we must learn it's mechanisms, tendencies, contradictions, and laws.
Best taken as a pair, these essays simplify the most important parts of the Law of Value. Marx is targetting those not trained in economics here, but you might want to keep a pen and some paper to follow along if you are a visual person.
Absolutely crucial and the most important work for understanding the modern era and its primary contradictions. Marxist-Leninists understand that Imperialism is the greatest contradiction in the modern era, which cascades downward into all manner of related contradictions. Knowing what dying Capitalism looks like, and how it behaves, means we can kill it.
Section IV: Revolutionary and Scientific Socialism
Can we defeat Capitalism at the ballot box? What about just defeating fascism? What about the role of the state?
If Marxists believed reforming Capitalist society was possible, we would be the first in line for it. Sadly, it isn't possible, which Luxemburg proves in this monumental writing.
Excellent refutation of revisionists and Social Democrats who think the State can be reformed, without needing to be replaced with one that is run by the workers, in their own interests.
Section V: Intersectionality and Solidarity
The revolution will not be fought by atomized individuals, but by an intersectional, international working class movement. Intersectionality is critical, because it allows different marginalized groups to work together in collective interest, unifying into a broad movement.
Critical reading on understanding misogyny, transphobia, enbyphobia, pluralphobia, and homophobia, as well as how to move beyond the base subject of "gender." Uses the foundations built up in the previous works to analyze gender theory from a Historical Materialist perspective.
De-colonialism is essential to Marxism. Without having a strong, de-colonial, internationalist stance, we have no path to victory nor a path to justice. Fanon analyzes Colonialism's dehumanizing effects, and lays out how to form a de-colonial movement, as well as its necessity.
Solidarity and intersectionality are the key to any social movement. When different social groups fight for liberation together along intersectional lines, the movements are emboldened and empowered ever-further.
Section VI: Putting it into Practice!
It's not enough to endlessly read, you must put theory to practice. That is how you can improve yourself and the movements you support. Touch grass!
Mao wrote simply and directly, targeting peasant soldiers during the Revolutionary War in China. This pair of essays equip the reader with the ability to apply the analytical tools of Dialectical Materialism to their every day practice, and better understand problems.
Congratulations, you completed your introductory reading course!
With your new understanding and knowledge of Marxism-Leninism, here is a mini What is to be Done? of your own to follow, and take with you as practical advice.
Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to us to protect ourselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it.
Read theory. Don't think that you are done now! Just because you have the basics, doesn't mean you know more than you do. If you have not investigated a subject, don't speak on it! Don't speak nonsense, but listen!
Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground, let nobody be forgotten or left behind. There is strength in numbers, when one marginalized group is targeted, many more are sure to follow.
Be industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well.
Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. Liberals will not save us, we must save each other.
Be persistent. If you feel like a single water droplet against a mountain, think of canyons and valleys. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.
"Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent."
Freedom Road Socialist Organization (FRSO) is a national organization of revolutionaries fighting for socialism in the United States. Our home is in the working class.
No problem! Made it after the US election, because I thought it would be a good opportunity to help people understand what's going on and what we can actually do proactively. Glad you like it!
Without a revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement. It is impossible to emphasize this thought too much at a time when along with the fashionable preaching of opportunism people are carried away with the narrowest possible forms of…
Exactly. This should be framed as a failed coup that will result in social reform/revolution. These clowns are poorly organized, on drugs most of the time, and have no clues how the social organism works.
It's pretty shitty that they'll cause a lot of unnecessary pain tho.
It's less a coup, and more the bourgeousie opting for a hammer to try to save itself from the trap it fell into by de-industrializing and shifting most production overseas. But you're right, revolution becomes more likely.
Right wing conspiracy theorists: "YOU'LL SEE! IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE CHINESE COMMUNIST JEWISH MUSLIM SATANISTS ACTIVATE THEIR SPACE LASERS TO TURN THE EARTH INTO A SPHERE AND USE VACCINES TO RAISE CTHULHU FROM THE DEAD AND SNAP THE INFINITY GAUNTLET AND"
Left wing conspiracy theorists: "Ah shit we got proven right again."
I care, because what he says and does can drastically affect our lives in a bad way. It's important to be aware of what's happening. Ignoring him just gives him free reign to be an awful person without restriction.
Honestly, it's why most of our government is allowing someone like Trump to do whatever he wants. Because who's gonna stop them? Who's going to enforce the rule of law?
Most people just prefer to avoid political BS, so they complain about the way things are, then go back to their lives a few days later and no justice is actually performed. No accountability.
Most of the time, I feel like the #StopMuskSpam campaigns on social media are just teaching us to ignore him so he can get away with more evil acts.
And the fact that he's supposedly leaving politics feels like he's just tired of being in the spotlight and is trying to move back to the shadows so he can continue harming us without criticism.
Don't ignore him; stay in touch with everything he's doing so you're informed and can respond appropriately. And that goes for all political figures in control of our lives.
I'd still NOT trust Elon. He says one thing publicly, but might be cooking 🍳🔪 something else internally. He might be trying to save his business A.s.s. as a converted, but down deep he's still a piece of 💩.
Why is this fascist's theatre even being considered? We already know that budget bill is worthless trash to everything that may benefit the working class and common sense. We don't need his histrionics.
I wouldn't trust 💩💩💩💩 coming out of Elon mouth. A few years ago, he went public about the dangers of AI and why it'd destroy us human-race. A decade later, he owns an AI company and infiltrates ALL the US government departments with it, using the absurd and most likely lie to make it more efficient while stealing and keeping all the citizens information he could gain. Yeah right I trust Ellon as much as I trust Trump which equals to -459.67 °F coldest temperature in outer space or current absolute ZERO.
It is a disgusting abomination. I support DOGE because I wanted cuts. So what do they do? They save a little money cracking down on social security fraud, and then pass this disgusting behemoth 3.8 trillion dollar budget.
It's like biden never left office. There's no fucking way they meet the 2% inflation target after flooding the economy with another 3.8 trillion dollars. We're right back on track for hyperinflation. The same way that every other failed republic died. You can't spend your way out of currency debasement. It just accelerates the process.
What they need to do is spend less. Get that budget deal under 1 trillion dollars. They need to cut 3 trillion in spending. They won't do that because it would mean stuffing less pork into their barrels and pockets. All our representatives are corrupt and they all have friends and pet projects and hands in the cookie jar. So we're on a train with no brakes, going headfirst into hyperinflation. History repeats.
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A judge declared a mistrial in the Harvey Weinstein sex crimes retrial on Thursday after a dispute between members of the jury on the outstanding rape charge against the disgraced Hollywood movie mogul. The jury was unable to reach a verdict on the charge that Weinstein raped Jessica Mann, and a retrial on that count will follow at a later date.
Haiti’s first commercial flight in seven months took off has taken off from the capital, going to the northern city of Cap-Haitien, where excited passengers hope to reunite with friends, relatives and business associates
They are parking military equipment on the grass of the National Mall? The US Park Service had made even the yearly Smithsonian Folklife Festival scale down and stop using the grass because the foot traffic was too damaging...
So-called “nudify” apps take photos of clothed individuals and turn them into fake nudes, even if the subjects have not consented to having their likeness used
A source familiar with the trip told The Independent that the vice president spoke to both Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch, as well as a group of executives from the right-wing network
The undocumented migrant community in the United States is using social networks and other digital platforms to send alerts about raids and the presence of immigration agents around the US.
Medicade is a piece of load-bearing social infrastructure that most Americans - who are not on Medicade and barely understand the difference between Medicare and Medicade - are blissfully unaware of it's ramifications for the entire healthcare system.
Put another way: The only reason we don't have hordes of people in the streets demanding universal healthcare - is because the poor have Medicade, so it's in their best-interests to behave.
Medicade is a single-payer healthcare program that is almost entirely for the poor. (eg: People that insurance companies can't squeeze money out of.)
Without Medicade most hospitals will go bankrupt - and what few social services & charities there are for the poor will be absolutely swamped to the point where they will be ineffective.
Moreover: Medicade prevents medical bills from forcing the poor from choosing between a rent & food and medication they need to live. So if Medicade gets gutted, the US homeless population is going to blow up.
When haven’t post Nixon Republicans relied on magical thinking? In 2017 they were making shit up like Kellyanne Conway’s Bowling Green Massacre. Proto Trump Sarah Palin whined about government death panels which are kinda coming to fruition but from their own fucking party. FEMA Death Camps is an ongoing fear tactic to kill public trust in government led disaster relief. Newt Gingrich era Republicans constantly talked about Seth Rich and the Clinton Body Count. Their only tactic is to obfuscate any consensus reality. They get to make up their own while getting disengaged voters to lose even more trust in the system. Deepfakes and unregulated AI is only going to make it all worse. It’s a shit feedback loop created by the most cynical, opportunistic fuckheads who offer nothing and prey on our worst impulses.
That would be true if people posting here were representative. They're not. Most people dont follow the news, and gerrymandered districts mean it'll take a lot to change things.
Meanwhile the president is saying that the former president has been replaced by a clone. Isn't there some sort of protocol for when the government is out of touch with reality?
I dont understand. I mean, payback, sure, you got yours. Now , people who were once almost wiped off the planet....now want to wipe another race off the planet.
You would think they would have sympathy for the women and children not even involved. Just trying to survive.
"During the Second Intifada, the IDF adopted a policy of house demolition following a wave of suicide bombings. Israel justified the policy on the basis of deterrence against terrorism, and providing an incentive for families of potential suicide bombers to dissuade the bomber from attacking. Demolitions can also occur in the course of fighting. During Operation Defensive Shield, several IDF soldiers were killed early in the conflict while searching houses containing militants. In response, the IDF started employing a tactic of surrounding such houses, calling on the occupants (civilian and militant) to exit, and demolishing the house on top of the militants that do not surrender. This tactic, called nohal sir lachatz (Hebrew: נוהל סיר לחץ, lit. 'pressure pot'), is now used whenever feasible (i.e., non-multi rise building that is separated from other houses). In some heavy fighting incidents, especially in the 2002 Battle of Jenin and Operation Rainbow in Rafah 2004, heavily armored IDF Caterpillar D9 bulldozers were used to demolish houses to widen alleyways, uncover tunnels, or to secure locations for IDF troops. The result was an indiscriminate use of demolitions against civilian housing unconnected to terrorism that left 1,000 people homeless in the Rafah Refugee Camp.[11]
[33]According to a report by Amnesty International in 1999, house demolitions are usually done without prior warning and the home's inhabitants are given little time to evacuate.[34] According to a 2004 Human Rights Watch report, many families in Rafah own a "cluster of homes". For example, the family may own a "small house from earlier days in the camp, often with nothing more than an asbestos roof". Later, sons will build homes nearby when they start their own families.[35]"
Fun fact: Zionist Jews by far look down on Holocaust victims and survivors, in a "this wouldn't have happened to me" kind of way. It's part of the Zionist narrative that diaspora Jews are weak and pathetic while Jews in Eretz Israel are strong. The people who founded Israel also by far had nothing to do with the Holocaust, either due to having arrived before WWII or being from the Middle East (half of Israeli Jews are of Middle Eastern descent). They like to use the Holocaust as a propaganda piece, but Israel's claim to being Holocaust survivors is flimsy at best.
Senator Alex Padilla is forcibly removed from Homeland Secretary Kristi Noem's press conference in LA.
"Hands off!," Padilla can be heard yelling.
Never seen a US senator handled this way.
Come visualizzarle da Mastodon e da Friendica le testate italiane che Flipboard ha finalmente federato?
Ora che anche diversi account italiani di Flipboard si sono uniti al Fediverso, cerchiamo di capire come seguirli al meglio, per non perderci nulla, ma anche per non farci sommergere dal flusso di informazione
Mi sembra un'ottima notizia, nel passaggio da Facebook al Fediverso una delle cose di cui sentivo più la mancanza (a parte gli amici...) erano proprio le notizie del Post. Ho messo il "follow", vediamo com'è.
Grazie per la guida, è stata un'ottima idea.
EDIT: posso finalmente rimuovere il dubbio sul "vediamo com'è", funziona perfettamente 😁
Canada’s federal police have launched a criminal investigation into several IDF soldiers who also hold Canadian citizenship, on suspicion of crimes against humanity allegedly committed during their military service, Canadian media reported Tuesday.
The report, first published by the Toronto Star, marks the first time Canadian authorities have formally opened a war crimes investigation against dual Israeli-Canadian nationals. The move has triggered concern and controversy within Canada’s Jewish and Israeli communities.
According to the report, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) are investigating Canadian citizens who served in the IDF, whether in active duty or as reservists, during the war in Gaza. The probe reportedly began in 2024 but remained under wraps until now. It could include evidence collection, information sharing with international bodies and potentially even indictments on Canadian soil.
Canada opens war crimes probe into dual Israeli-Canadian IDF soldiers
Canada’s federal police have launched a criminal investigation into several IDF soldiers who also hold Canadian citizenship, on suspicion of crimes against humanity allegedly committed during their military service, Canadian media reported Tuesday.
The report, first published by the Toronto Star, marks the first time Canadian authorities have formally opened a war crimes investigation against dual Israeli-Canadian nationals. The move has triggered concern and controversy within Canada’s Jewish and Israeli communities.
According to the report, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) are investigating Canadian citizens who served in the IDF, whether in active duty or as reservists, during the war in Gaza. The probe reportedly began in 2024 but remained under wraps until now. It could include evidence collection, information sharing with international bodies and potentially even indictments on Canadian soil.
Canada quietly probing citizens over alleged war crimes committed while serving in the IDF during Gaza war; launched in 2024, investigation remains unannounced; Jewish community voices concern: 'Canada is becoming more hostile toward us by the d…
No idea. It's not like a particular country that Associates itself heavily with Judaism is doing anything that's particularly egregious such as a genocide /s
Don't be that guy and start defending people of war crimes just because they are Jewish. People are not probing them because they are Jewish, they are being probed because of their war crimes.
When you read "jewish communties" in a context like this, just replace it with zionist IDF lobby. These are not grassroots complaints, they are lobby groups.
Good, because we all know international bodies won't do anything. I hope they are fully investigated and prosecuted. I hope if they commited war crimes they are fully punished.
To give Americans and International readers context, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police have a division that functions like the FBI/Europol (investigating national-scale crimes and co-ordinating provincial resources), but they also serve as local and/or state police where there is not one specific to that province, county, district or city.
Is it too late for these scumbag governments to pretend they care? The genocide is almost finished; All they are doing is washing their hands. The credibility of the west is drowning in shit.
The first investigation in how many years of genocide? After how much support for Israel in money spent and protests silenced? After how many decades of apartheid regime?
Yes. Yes they would. That should be obvious by this point.
Just like the people who spent last year shouting that the best way to stop the Gaza genocide is to elect the guy who said he wants Israel to "finish the problem."
That's seriously cool but we all know that they just use them as scapegoat while true top war criminals ruling Israel are safe from all accountabilities
Google is pausing the rollout of its AI-powered “Ask Photos” feature within Google Photos, which has been slowly expanding since last fall. “Ask Photos isn’t where it needs to be,” wrote Jamie Aspinall, a product manager for Google Photos, in a post on X responding to criticism, citing three factors: latency, quality, and user experience.
The experimental feature is powered by Google’s “most capable” Gemini AI models. Specifically, it’s a specialized version of its Gemini models that are “only used for Ask Photos,” according to Google.
Aspinall said Google had paused the feature’s rollout “at very small numbers while we address these issues,” and that in about two weeks, the team would ship a better version “that brings back the speed and recall of the original search.
At the same time, Google also announced Tuesday that keyword search in Photos is getting better, allowing you to use quotes to find exact text matches within “filenames, camera models, captions, or text within photos,” or search without quotes to include visual matches too.
Google announced the feature last May at I/O 2024, and positioned it as a way to query your Photos app for common-sense questions that another human would typically have to help with — i.e., asking about which themes you’ve chosen in the past for a child’s birthday party, or which national parks you’ve visited.
“Gemini’s multimodal capabilities can help understand exactly what’s happening in each photo and can even read text in the image if required,” the company wrote in the announcement. “Ask Photos then crafts a helpful response and picks which photos and videos to return.”
It’s not the first time Google has paused the rollout of an AI-powered feature, as it competes in a quickly intensifying AI arms race against other tech giants and startups alike.
Last May, within weeks of debuting “AI Overview” in Google Search, Google paused the feature after nonsensical and inaccurate answers went viral on social media, with no way to opt out of usage. Two high-profile examples: The feature called Barack Obama the first Muslim president of the United States, and recommended users put glue on pizza to keep the cheese on.
And last February, Google rolled out Gemini’s image-generation tool with a good deal of fanfare, then paused the feature that same month after users reported historical inaccuracies, such as an AI-generated image depicting the U.S. Founding Fathers as people of color.
Google says it’s aware of historically inaccurate results for its Gemini AI image generator, following criticism that it depicted historically white groups as people of color.
it’s so much worse than the normal search. i would search for “dog” or “pasta” or “house” and get a pretty good result, but this conversational shit is just plain worse. and the “conversational” aspect is useless
Lol why does AI need to be in ask photos when I search for a photo google can already find it with just the discription a lone for exaple License plate, name of person, time of year its so good. Just give up on the google AI please.
I need to start exploring getting away from Google completely and ditching Android I'm over it. I'd switch to an iPhone but I fucking hate Apple too so I guess we're going to start shopping the perimeter
Elon Musk has lambasted Donald Trump’s signature tax bill, calling it “a disgusting abomination”, in an outburst that threatens to destroy the relationship between the US president and his billionaire backer.
In a series of posts on his social media site X on Tuesday, Musk, who abruptly left the administration last week, hit out at what he called a “massive, outrageous, pork-filled Congressional spending bill”.
He added: “Shame on those who voted for it: you know you did wrong. You know it.”
Musk’s comments came just hours after Trump had criticised Republican Senator Rand Paul, a staunch fiscal conservative, for his opposition to the proposed legislation, which the president described as a “BIG GROWTH BILL” on his social media platform.
The legislation, which Trump had coined his “big, beautiful bill”, passed the House last month by one vote and is currently being considered by the Senate. It has been criticised by fiscal hawks for adding trillions to the national debt when investors are already worried about the US’s widening deficit.
Supporters of Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency (Doge) have also criticised the bill, claiming it would undo some of the initiative’s savings.
Asked about Musk’s latest comments, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said: “Look, the president already knows where Elon Musk stood on this bill. It doesn’t change the president’s opinion. This is one big, beautiful bill, and he’s sticking to it.”
Musk is about to be DOGEd. We expect that trump is going to launch several investigations and find a lot of fraud relating to musk’s government contracts. 🍿time.
If Midjourney wins, other media corporations are going to host bigger and better LLMs and do the pirating. The "prompters" who think that they're being fighting corporations are the best corporate tools.
AFAIK, you don't actually need actually need an LLM to do it, as long as you do what Meta did and not upload anything at all. The one who did the copyright infringement is the one who supplied the data to you.
I imagine that they could find that leeching is illegal if you upload anything to any other torrent clients. I think Meta was claiming they were literally in the clear because they were being assholes and configuring their clients not to share at all.
But yeah, keep your ratio above 1, or you're a jerk.
I guarantee they're also adding AI slop trained on other people's work into their own content, while simultaneously suing anyone who does the same with theirs.
This is the thing... Adding insult to injury, the outcome of this is going to be (if it plays in Disney's favor) a paid model in which generating characters resembling Disney's will cost extra. So they will steal and profit
So obviously actually being an artist who draws things and someone using an AI slop machine are very different in practice, but I find it interesting that they're saying the images are unauthorized copies. Is it illegal to draw these characters now too? Or is it different because a human did it?
The argument could be made that because the image generator is essentially a regurgitator with no artistic interpretation, there is no transformative artistic value in it. It's like applying a filter with extra steps.
Also the generators charge for access, so they are profiting off of the IP. That's quite different to making something for personal use or releasing it for free.
The third one is hilarious. Like some filter is like "whoa whoa you can't commit suicide in an image, but shooting your shadow? Deep. Poignant. Mysterious. I'll allow it."
If Disney wants to stop me from using genAI or pirating, they can pry it out of my cold, dead hands.
Intellectual property is a myth, copyright is nothing more than calling dibs, and neither have enough merit for me to give a shit about either. Once an idea exists and is released into the public, it’s mine to use however I want. And use it I will, regardless of whatever the artists or developers who made it think.
I'm their defense, given that they are massive settled business, banning ai image generations will more likely hurt younger competition rather than hurt Disney.
so far, the only AI that they use was for some trippy effect for a TV show. and it was used because it does look uncanny.
Above all of this should be the glaringly historical fact that Hollywood was literally founded to escape lawyers for European film groups trying to bring those founders-to-be to justice for their, well, piracy of said films... 🤷🏼♂️ I mean, if anyone should deserve an ol' fashioned legal rogering, it's those hypocritical backbirths.
That is also true, considering he was an infamous patent troll of his time. Fuckin' killed our boy Nikolai, by proxy, and now the ass-clown is named as the inventor of all manner of things he stole from other, more capable innovators. Fuck him sideways with a Faraday pineapple.
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in reply to LupusBlackfur • • •It’s 1800 miles from Yaviza, Panama to Oaxaca, Mexico, and these little munchers made it in 2 years.
Oaxaca to Brownsville, TX is 766 miles, so the US could see them arrive in a few months. Seems speedy to me.
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in reply to RobertPulson • • •There was once a writing prompts story on reddit. The fifth horseman called Kyle. If anyone can, please repost it here. It was very good.
I vote for him.
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in reply to Xaphanos • • •Think I found it The prompt itself called him Kyle so not sure which response you had in mind.
This one is the top comment:
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in reply to RobertPulson • • •I know this isn't the time or place. But Death deserves a proper name. It's a weird hill I preach on since figuring it out.
Death comes for us all.
Pestilence - disease, by virus, bacteria, parasite, prion, etc will lead to death.
Famine - starvation, or dehydration, or simply lack of proper nutrition leads to death.
War - violence, man vs man, for reasons unknown, but entirely human made leads to death.
Death - Leads to death? His name should be something else we fear. And what we fear is related to the above. A few names I propose are
Mortality, Age, or just Time - we cannot live forever.
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in reply to peoplebeproblems • • •Death and "decay" right? The little dust motes, the stray sock on your chair, the mold in your shower, the grey hair on your head, the new wrinkle near your eye, the new ache in your knee, the yellowing family photos, the moment when you can't quite remember your nephews name.
The little things that fall apart until that one day you just... stop.
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in reply to peoplebeproblems • • •Sorta fun related fact, in the original text Death is actually the only one who has a name at all, the rest have just been inferred based on historical context.
See section "the Pale Horse"
figures in the New Testament believed to start the apocalypse
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in reply to peoplebeproblems • • •It's called Entropy and ironically it is also responsible for life.
A wall tends to fall apart (and not the other way around) because these individual pieces have greater degrees of freedom (of movement) than the wall itself. Living beings, through their exchanges with the environment, breathing, consuming and excreting, end up increasing the degrees of freedom of the matter in their vicinity.
In more concise words:
"Life, as a highly organized system, exists in a state of relatively low entropy, while the universe as a whole is constantly moving towards higher entropy (more disorder) according to the second law of thermodynamics. It may seem paradoxical, a violation of a fundamental law of physics, but life actually increases the overall entropy of the universe as it utilizes energy and resources to maintain its own order, eventually releasing waste and heat back into the environment."
In short, life ultimately increases movement, transformation, decay, disorder and thus death.
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Oh, and the worm that died inside its brain once too.
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in reply to WizardofFrobozz • • •Eh, I’m from Detroit, we drink Canadian beer and would never speak ill of our southern neighbors. Heck, I grew up watching Hockey Night on CBC and listening to 89x. Can’t speak for the rest of the country though.
But for real, these critters sound scary, and apparently we’re all out of science. Or any sort of common sense. Yeah, we’re fucked.
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in reply to edwardbear • • •I think most people don’t talk about it because there are plenty of things to complain about with RFK Jr, we don’t have to resort to ableism.
He has a condition called spasmodic dysphonia. Legendary NPR interviewer Diane Rehm also suffered from this condition, which eventually ended her radio career.
I could be wrong, but I don’t think it’s because of his terrible health decisions. It happens to some people.
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