"Tea" app - user database leaked today (incl. drivers license & IDs). Daily reminder not to give your ID to online services [THEY DO NOT PROTECT YOUR INFORMATION]
Remember the UK new safety law.
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Reddit rolls out age verification in the UK to comply with new rules | TechCrunch
Reddit users in the UK will have to upload their ID or a selfie to access potentially harmful content.Lauren Forristal (TechCrunch)
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Uh... What's the tea app?
Edit: from what I can gather based on the last link attached to this post it seems to be some kind of app for women to talk about men they've dated. Why that needs drivers license uploads is a whole other question and definitely should have raised some massive red flags for anyone thinking about using it.
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Found this article after a quick web search: forbes.com/sites/kateoflaherty…
It's an app where women upload photos of men they're dating to get "the tea" on them (red flags, catfishing, etc.). I always wondered if something like this existed. Sucks that it has to, sucks even more if their users are being targeted like this.
What Is Tea, The Viral Women-Only App With 1 Million Downloads?
Tea, an app that allows women to post pictures and info on men they’re dating for feedback, is going viral. What exactly does the app do and what problems does it raise?Forbes
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Just goes to show how lost you are in your feminist supremacy bubble, that even leftist spaces like lemmy think this thing is creepy.
This already happened in my country, Secret was an app that got huge while I was finishing high school, an anonymous platform for people to confess private stuff, it rapidly became bully culture and libel central.
If someone doesn't want to date you because of gossip they read online, then you dodged a bullet. The garbage took itself out.
Do you think X should be shut down because some users use it irresponsibly?
Reddit?
Lemmy?
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The reason that up until now an app like that hasn't existed is because it is an absolutely awful idea if you spend more than 10 seconds thinking about it.
It's ripe for abuse in fact I would be surprised if even half of the reports are legitimate. Isn't absolutely god awful system and whoever thought this up is an absolute prat, who seriously needs to get outside and actually experience real life and real people.
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The drivers license thing is likely due to a law passed by the UK a few days ago requires all mature content to be behind an age check. And not a "Are you 18: Yes / No", more like "we will check using ID and photos of you".
It's the most hated piece of legislation in a while, with already 100 000 petition votes in 3 days to repeal it.
Petition: Repeal the Online Safety Act
We want the Government to repeal the Online Safety act.Petitions - UK Government and Parliament
No idea why they were collecting identification then.
Even worse, since the hackers got a bunch of the data at once, the company must have held onto those pictures long after they registered people to their service, which they likely didn't need to do.
Oh yes the famous state of Colorado UK.
UK driving licences do not look like that, they don't have US states on them (major clue), are green, and if the person in the photo actually looks like a living human and not corpse, it gets sent back as unacceptable.
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"talk"
They try to get a pass on this by saying it's about "safety" and reporting creeps. But it's filled with women posting dudes and gossip. It gives me the same vibes as those sites back in the day that were shut down because they were essentially revenge porn sites. Same shit different form.
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Yea cause that's what these sites totally were doing.
Everyone knows what these places were. 4chan are fucking scumbags but so are the people using these gossip sites. They're both cut from the same cloth
Aside from the fact that it was stored in a public database, there's no need to store photos of the IDs at all. The account can just be marked as verified and move on.
Also I doubt that measure would keep a man out if he really wanted to join...
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The only entity able to connect you in this case is the identity verification third party. The premise is that a government-backed identification system is more secure than a rando private company.
Private company asks government "hey is this user real and unique", government replies "yes". Private webiste does not need to know your ID. No identifying element needs to be transmitted by the government.
Of course some private companies will need more, and in that case the user, you, can grant them access to data, much like the current authentication systems using Google accounts & co.
In which case the flow would be:
- Rando insecure company asks government "is this user real and unique? I need their name"
- Government website asks you "this rando company wants to know your name"
- You accept
- Goverbment replies to rando insecure conpany "yes, user real, name is X"
That's how it should be.
Any government already has all of that information, so, no.
By giving it to a company, you just increase the risks of info leakage.
I assume OP actually meant the additional info the government can get from where I authenticate with my goverment ID to a company.
Hypothecial situation: You wanna buy a sex toy.
If the goverment does store where and what you buy, they could punish you by withholding services.
And they might not say why and give a bs excuse or send you on a goose hunt to do more paperwork.
You can suspect that but probably never proof that it was the case.
As always life is complicated.
I am talking about my personal situation.
^(Do I really need to put a disclaimer to all posts, that mentions all comments are from my own view and might no apply to every situation in every country?)
They wouldn’t see what sites you give the tokens to — unless those sites choose to phone home, for some reason.
- You log in to the government site
- You ask for a token to prove your age/gender/whatever
- You copy the token
- You go to the age/gender-restricted site
- You provide the token
- The restricted site asks the government site how to verify any arbitrary token (but doesn’t mention your specific token)
- The restricted site verifies the token
Friendly reminder that some services do need your ID otherwise they cannot help you or at least they need to very you (accountants, notaries, etc)
edit: I can´t do your tax report if I 1 don´t identify you and 2 I don't have the social security for which I need to do the report
Not to me, yes the app sucks, yes the use case of the app also sucks, yes devs are either super green or even mostly AI (these have been discussed extensively and I agree with all).
But can't commend public release of such sensitive data in such a place. You can still bury this app and the company without compromising people's sensitive data. Makes for less of a show and less opportunity to boast but yea.
yes devs are either super green or even mostly AI
Solely blaming the devs tells me you have no experience with Firebase security
That's exactly what hacking is.
'90s hacking movies may have given you a different idea of what cybersecurity looks like, but this is what the real world is like
Also, Google deserves a scolding here. Firebase's default configuration is absolutely atrocious. One of the few critical vulnerabilities I've seen where the system is working as intended. Dubbed the hospital gown vuknerability because they leave the backend wide open by default
Firebase's default configuration
I'm going to get on my grumpy old man soapbox. I understand making things idiot proof for end users. End users are idiots. But do we have to make things super safe for developers now too? Do we want to add a warning to rm so we don't accidentally remove the wrong directory?
Any developer who doesn't know to check permissions and accessibility on their database deserves to have their AI vibe coding bot taken away.
Is Ukraine Heading for a Coup? Sources Reveal Plan to Sideline President
Is Ukraine Heading for a Coup? Sources Reveal Plan to Sideline President
A political storm is brewing in Ukraine, as internal opposition groups move to challenge President Volodymyr Zelensky, fueled by protests over controversial anti-corruption reformsPetr Ermilin (Pravda English)
Interview with Pezeshkian by Carlson: Breaking Through the Wall of Western Lies
Interview with Pezeshkian by Carlson: Breaking Through the Wall of Western Lies
Israel and the U.S. as Warmongers: How Tehran Seeks to Halt Chaos in the Middle East In July 2025, Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian gave a historicВиктор Михин (New Eastern Outlook)
The Sweepstakes of Death: How Ukraine Resurrected the Ghosts of Murderous Regimes
The Sweepstakes of Death: How Ukraine Resurrected the Ghosts of Murderous Regimes
Ukraine’s new digital kill-points reward system, praised in the West as innovation, marks a chilling return to the ancient logic of ritualizedФил Батлер (New Eastern Outlook)
Nuclear Potential of Russian Submarines Can Cool Any Western Hothead
Nuclear Potential of Russian Submarines Can Cool Any Western Hothead
The powerful nuclear weapon potential of Russian nuclear submarines is capable of cooling any hothead in the West, and a nuclear shield is a guarantee of Russia's sovereignty and territorial integrity, Russian presidential aide Nikolai Patrushev said…Sputnik International
Russia Has Tripled Production of T-90M Tanks: Can it Keep Up with Wartime Attrition?
Russia’s defence sector has significantly increased production of T-90 main battle tanks, from approximately 90-110 tanks per year in 2020-2021, to 280-300 tanks inMilitary Watch Magazine
Others would have already been imprisoned: Protests in Ukraine were organized by the owners of the regime — Azarov
Others would have already been imprisoned: Protests in Ukraine were organized by the owners of the regime — Azarov: EADaily
EADaily, July 25th, 2025. Protests in Ukraine after the adoption of the law on limiting the powers of anti—corruption agencies — NABU and SAP - were organized by the owners of the Kiev regime, the authorities would not tolerate any spontaneous action…EADaily
Oh...... yeah. Okay. I get it.
Russia is afraid of losing their paper-thin excuse for invading a sovereign nation, so they're already trying to astroturf the idea that any coming change in the government is just a sham.
Pretty good move really, though I guess that's to be expected from one of the worlds most dedicated, professional and experienced propaganda machines.
I'm sure you know the phrase "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence", yet while there are almost 400 sources documenting the Uyghur Persecution on the dedicated Wikipedia page, the basis for your argument is a photo of a city?
If what you're trying to say is that there is a genocide in Gaza that is not adequately documented by our media I'm all with you, but since this thread is attracting some deniers, maybe it's important to remember that this doesn't erase a completely disconnected fact that is documented by every major human rights organization (here is, for example, the whole report by Amnesty International: xinjiang.amnesty.org/).
That there is or was a “Uyghur genocide” is the extraordinary claim, for which there is extraordinarily scant evidence, which is why the UN dropped it three years ago. Almost no predominantly-Muslim country buys the Uyghur genocide narrative, because they know it’s bullshit, because they talked to the Uyghurs themselves.
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#HRC51 | Draft resolution A/HRC/51/L.6 on holding a debate on the situation of human rights in the Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region of #China, was REJECTED.
The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing Salafi terrorist into Xinjiang, and once those efforts failed, it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative.
- The Xinjiang Genocide Allegations Are Unjustified
- The Uyghur Human Rights Project is a product of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is the American government’s main regime change NGO.
- Uyghur genocide allegations
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- US-Funded Uyghur Activists Train as Soldiers of Empire
- A Reddit AMA Claiming To Be A Uyghur Quickly Exposes A CIA Asset Slandering China
- The blueprint of regime change operations How regime change happens in the 21st century with your consent
The only countries pushing this narrative are the “always the same map” imperial core countries, which just so happen to be largely the same countries supporting Israel’s genocide.
It’s never to late to develop real media literacy or to understand how the US incessantly prosecutes regime change operations globally.
UK ban on Palestine Action at odds with international law, says UN rights chief
The UK government’s ban on Palestine Action is at odds with international law, according to the UN human rights chief.
Volker Turk, the UN high commissioner for human rights, said on Friday that the UK’s decision to proscribe the campaign group as a terrorist organisation was “disproportionate and unnecessary” and called for the designation to be rescinded.
He said: “UK domestic counter-terrorism legislation defines terrorist acts broadly to include ‘serious damage to property’. "But, according to international standards, terrorist acts should be confined to criminal acts intended to cause death or serious injury or to the taking of hostages, for purpose of intimidating a population or to compel a government to take a certain action or not.
“It misuses the gravity and impact of terrorism to expand it beyond those clear boundaries, to encompass further conduct that is already criminal under the law.”
UK ban on Palestine Action at odds with international law, says UN rights chief
The UK government’s ban on Palestine Action is at odds with international law, according to the UN human rights chief.
Volker Turk, the UN high commissioner for human rights, said on Friday that the UK’s decision to proscribe the campaign group as a terrorist organisation was “disproportionate and unnecessary” and called for the designation to be rescinded.
He said: “UK domestic counter-terrorism legislation defines terrorist acts broadly to include ‘serious damage to property’. "But, according to international standards, terrorist acts should be confined to criminal acts intended to cause death or serious injury or to the taking of hostages, for purpose of intimidating a population or to compel a government to take a certain action or not.
“It misuses the gravity and impact of terrorism to expand it beyond those clear boundaries, to encompass further conduct that is already criminal under the law.”
A Prominent OpenAI Investor Appears to Be Suffering a ChatGPT-Related Mental Health Crisis, His Peers Say
An OpenAI Investor Appears to Be Having a ChatGPT-Induced Mental Health Crisis
Bedrock co-founder Geoff Lewis has posted increasingly troubling content on social media, drawing concern from friends in the industry.Joe Wilkins (Futurism)
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This whole thing is kinda scary. About how easily some people can spiral into delusion when over-relying on LLMs.
These models fill gaps with plausible-sounding but often enough fabricated information.
It’s understandable how non technical users treat their outputs as profound revelations, mistaking AI-generated fiction for hidden truths.
As a physician in the field I find your use of psychosis incredibly sloppy. Usage of LLM: s as possible causative etiology of psychosis is not supported in the literature.
I don't know if you have any knowledge in psychiatry, but I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt. As a clinician I can say that people presenting with psychosis in the psyciatric emergency department increasingly mention AI. This is especially true for paranoid manifestations (schizophrenic amphetamine-induced psychosis). Increasingly the patients have interacted with LLM:s and/or incorporated them into their (deeply flawed) model of reality. This is not to say the use LLM is the driving (causative) factor. Rather, the symptoms of the paranoid psychotic state is influenced by the patients interaction with the environment.
As an example the subjects that play major roles in paranoid psychosis has varied through my career. I practice in Sweden and SÄPO (Swedish Security Service) and MUST (Military Intelligence and Security Service) are common themes in psychotic models of reality. A year ago Putin and Russia was common. Before that covid was common. None of these are driving factors. They are just common themes in society in general and also meet the criteria of excellent basis for paranoid and persecutory delusions. This is the connection between LLM:s and psychosis, just a result of AI getting a lot of attention in general and easily fits a world view of a paranoid psycotic.
Tea App Breach Exposes 72,000 Selfies, ID Photos and Other User Images
The images had been in a "legacy data system" that contained information from more than two years ago, the company says.
A UK Government Order Threatens the Privacy and Security of All Internet Users
A UK Government Order Threatens the Privacy and Security of All Internet Users - Internet Society
Earlier this year, the UK government ordered Apple to provide access to encrypted data in the company's cloud storage service, iCloud.John Perrino (Internet Society)
Xiaomi's Xring O1 Chip: Everything You Need to Know About the New Powerhouse
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/33432512
Xiaomi recently announced its Xring O1 chipset, and if you’re curious about the details, here’s what you need to know about it.
Intel will cancel 14A and following nodes if it can't win a major external customer — move would cede leading-edge nodes to TSMC and Samsung
cross-posted from: sopuli.xyz/post/30921919
Then exit the leading-edge process technologies completely.
Intel reveals it’ll shed 24,000 employees this year and retreat in Germany, Poland, and Costa Rica
cross-posted from: sopuli.xyz/post/30916880
Intel will push out 24,000 people over the full year. It’s already laid off thousands.
Archived version: archive.ph/2025.07.24-210043/t…
Intel reveals it will shed 24,000 employees this year and retreat in Germany, Poland, and Costa Rica
Intel says it will retreat from planned projects in Germany and Poland, end its operations in Costa Rica, and finish 2025 with just around 75,000 employees in total.Sean Hollister (The Verge)
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Second monitor not working on Fedora 42 (Solved) [RTX 4070Ti]
I just got this laptop and the second monitor is clearly detected by Fedora, as the monitor layout popup pops up, but the monitor doesn't actually work.
I assume this to be an NVIDIA problem, but as I have no experience with NVIDIA-based issues, I thought I'd ask here.
Here's my system specs:Operating System: Fedora Linux 42 KDE Plasma Version: 6.4.3 KDE Frameworks Version: 6.16.0 Qt Version: 6.9.1 Kernel Version: 6.15.7-200.fc42.x86_64 (64-bit) Graphics Platform: Wayland Processors: 24 × Intel® Core™ Ultra 9 275HX Memory: 32 GiB of RAM (30.8 GiB usable) Graphics Processor: Intel® Graphics Manufacturer: LENOVO Product Name: 83LU System Version: Legion Pro 5 16IAX10H
Side note - is it not detecting my GPU?
It's using your embedded GPU, not the Nvidia one. Depending on the laptop build, only some outputs work with both, or one or the other. Kind of a crapshoot.
On your terminal run nvidia-smi and see if you get some output. If not, your Nvidia card isn't being used. On Fedora, it should be pretty straightforward to install the drivers if you haven't done so yet.
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How To Install NVIDIA Drivers on Fedora 42
Installing NVIDIA drivers on Fedora 42 can significantly enhance your system's graphics performance, enabling smoother gaming experiences, efficient computational tasks, and better support for graphicr00t (idroot)
From games to reminders to drink water: The rise of 'streaks,' rewards that keep you hooked
From games to reminders to drink water: The rise of 'streaks,' rewards that keep you hooked
The use of tracking meters, popularized by apps such as Duolingo and Snapchat to reward their most dedicated users, has become widespread. However, addiction specialists and psychologists have raised concerns.Camille Ribot (Le Monde)
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Streak addiction is real, I had one Snapchat streak years ago that was over 1500, the person it was with and I would send one snap a day of nothing really just to keep the streak going. It got to the point that the one snap was the only time I communicated with that person, and it was honestly a relief when the streak finally lapsed. I had a few times where I was camping with no signal and would literally go on hikes with no destination just to find phone signal to send my daily snap to them.
Number go up makes monkey brain happy, even when you’re aware of how dumb it is.
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Check out mango. Its pleasant and has a really nice interface.
You can use your library card for free premium access.
Homepage - Mango Languages
Over 70 languages to explore Highest-rated language-learning app* 4.8 Start Your Journey How it works Learn it Learn with proven linguistic methodology that focuses on Intuitive Language Construction™.Mango Languages
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My library district actually just got access to Mango in May, I downloaded it, but I haven’t had a chance to try it
Thanks!
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As I always say about duolingo, if you have not completed the course in 3 months you won't learn a language with it. Duolingo is a good introduction when you don't know anything about a language, but you need a lot of advanced materials they they don't really have to become fluent.
Though if your goal is just to play a game and feel like you are learning something - well at least you get some vocabulary. It won't teach you a language but that need not be your goal.
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Gamification.
Employers use it in lieu of paying living wages.
Business employ the practice with rewards cards.
Humans physiologically crave competition and the sweet dopamine of accomplishment.
Understanding The Data Center Water Regulation Debate
With the rise of Artificial Intelligence (AI), there has been a dramatic rise in data center construction. However, this high demand for AI comes with a steep environmental cost, particularly for water consumption. Water is used at data centers to manufacture IT equipment, cool machinery, and generate electricity. These practices can consume millions of gallons of water daily, prompting both national and international legislation on transparency and sustainability.
On the other hand, some are hesitant to enforce regulation. Data centers provide substantial economic benefits, including job creation, tax revenue, and technological advancement. Critics argue that imposing strict environmental regulations could lessen these benefits by increasing operational costs and potentially driving companies overseas. Others are concerned that well-intentioned limits on water use might unintentionally lead to riskier cooling methods that rely on more energy-intensive processes.
However, water scarcity is a growing global threat, and data centers are becoming central to this dilemma. Excessive water withdrawals can disrupt local ecosystems and economies. Supporters of regulation highlight how policy can encourage innovation in closed-loop systems and free-air cooling to reduce freshwater dependence.
What are your thoughts on AI’s water consumption? Do you think that there should be more regulation? Or, do you think the future benefits and promises of AI outweigh the environmental costs?
Understanding The Data Center Water Regulation Debate | ACE
As artificial intelligence (A.I.) continues its exponential rate of development, the demand for data has never been higher. However, meeting the expected needJosh Gehring (Alliance for Citizen Engagement)
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
I don't owe you anything, books.
Next time try being more interesting.
Mercedes Gives Customers the One Thing They've Always Wanted: Microsoft Teams
Mercedes Gives Customers the One Thing They've Always Wanted: Microsoft Teams
Just when you thought in-car technology couldn’t get any worse, Mercedes and Microsoft have teamed up to put Teams in your vehicle.Jeff Perez (Motor1.com)
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Best os choices and use cases for a netbook with 2ram?
Plus, is the CPU even 64bit yet? Many distros have dropped their 32bit support already.
An up-to-date desktop suite? Hardly so.
I used to run Gentoo (and build it too) on an arm tablet with 1gb RAM, quite a few years ago. It was an Asus TF700T with an hardware keyboard and touch screen.
It's painful and really almost useless. You can setup the tyniest of the window manger and tools, but forget about browsing, using any office program, and probably a lot more.
With patience, it can be used i guess. Also, could be a nice command line only device with decent results.
My arch linux with KDE only uses 500Mb ram after boot and I have a handfull of apps in the autostart. So I would guess with some explicitly lighter desktop environment you can be well below 100Mb
If you have a chance to add an ssd or nvme you could allocate a decently sized swap partition and let the OS handle the rest.
Maybe you won't be able to watch full HD youtube in big fat chrome browser, but otherwise it should work just fine I think.
A Science Project: Windows for Workgroups 3.11 on vintage and modern hardware in 2016
(This is a long 5600+ words post, I recommend reading this from a tablet or computer) Windows for Workgroups 3.11 (WFW3.11) was an operating system (OS) released by Microsoft in August 1993 and ended support in December 2001.YKM's Corner on the Web
Is it 32-bit? If it is, then that also severely limits your options. Personally, I just throw Debian or one of its derivatives on old hardware like that. You may want to consider Q4OS. It's Debian based and is geared specifically towards old and low-end hardware. Interestingly, it's also one of only a couple distros that ship with Trinity as a desktop environment.
Retro gaming is definitely doable with 2GB of RAM, considering that older Raspberry Pi boards can do it with just 1GB. In that case you could try Batocera.
Some other ideas include running something like Nextcloud or a media server on it on your home network. In that case, I'd again recommend Debian.
Like others have said, Debian probably isn’t a bad idea.
I feel like it would be kind of stupid to run a full-on desktop environment even though technically possible, though - I think this is a good use for IceWM.
Also, at worst, you might have a really low power server.
I suggest Q4OS (with Trinity DE). It loads itself at 340 MB of RAM, so it leaves you with a lot of free RAM (especially since the heaviest apps now are browsers -- youtube needs 1 GB for itself). Arch Linux with XFCE can be made to boot at 470 MB. Debian starts at 650 MB. Ubuntu/Fedora start at over 1.5 GB so avoid.
Then of course there are the damnsmalllinux, antix etc, but the user experience on these is bad. Q4OS feels like a modern OS with GUI panels for everything, while not taking lots of ram.
Bunsenlab Linux I suppose, but do know if it's the single core atom version web browsing will be very slow and YT will only work in 240p after spending 10 minutes loading and you gotta use Chrome.
Mine has a Windows XP dualboot for retro gaming and Office 2007 flies on this thing. (Though it's not very compatible with newer versions of office)
Retro gaming is the best use case including ps1 emulation. I've been thinking of putting native dos on it, because some dos games are lagging in dosbox. (like imperium galactica 1 and even Prehistoric 2..)
Microsoft Used China-Based Support for Multiple U.S. Agencies, Potentially Exposing Sensitive Data
Microsoft says it will no longer use China-based engineers to support the Pentagon. But ProPublica found that the tech giant has relied on its global workforce for years to support other federal clients, including the Justice Department.
The Tea App leak is an example why you should not always give your face and ID willy-nilly
After the British spilled the beans with the Online Safety Act 2023 (Effective today), I wondered if there were any leaks I could use to prove forced verification is not the way the internet should be built, parents need to be liable for such things children do, not the server room hosted in Vietnam, I may not agree what the servers contain but this is not how you solve a problem.
Turns out a 4Chan user leaked hundreds of photos by finding a "public firebase storage bucket". It has now been made private and gives an 403 error, but the damage is done, its already in torrents and there is no way to reverse such action.
Someone has already made a location list based on the photos (allegedly, I could not find such metadata in the photos yet).
Just wanted to make an informational post for fun, I cannot show any "illegal numbers" here, sorry.
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Just having user agent header based attestation would work for most people.
It would be easy to bypass sure, but kids are boomer levels of tech illiterate these days.
Parents should be setting up content restrictions, the government has no place making us submit ask to view porn.
The failure of parents is not my problem.
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The laws aren't about protecting children, though. Only legitimate sites will implement it, and legitimate sites generally aren't the most problematics sites.
The laws are actually designed to allow for the tracking of adults' activity and link them to that activity in a way that is provable in court. Anyone who wants to use the sites for nefarious purposes can just impersonate others and frame them for the use. So, there's no real value in any of it, just a way to get campaign funding. The real solutions would be too expensive to implement and require experts to design who are much more likely to be highly educated and thus unwilling to help a fascist state, so they'll never happen.
I’ve been routing all of my traffic through UK-located VPN servers specifically to avoid shenanigans like this and the UK goes and fucks it up.
I can’t wait to arm wrestle all my accounts into allowing me to use Swiss servers. Mullvad doesn’t have enough Irish servers for me to reliably exit from there, that would be my top choice (English + GDPR). But then again, GDPR means a fraction of American sites don’t work.
I just really don’t like having my government or the governments of the places I travel to looking at my traffic. And now this ID shit is here. Just let me use the Internet goddamn it, I already pay out the ass for it.
Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes
Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes
“I have failed you completely and catastrophically,” wrote Gemini.Benj Edwards (Ars Technica)
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I didnt think anybody could be that stupid...
Where have you been for the last 5 years?
And can I come wherever that was? Sounds blissful.
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I'm convinced the AI models ran across the "best place to test is in production" joke in training and thought it was a valid process.
I mean, it is a valid process. You will get far faster results that way than on a test server.
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From TFA:
"I have failed you completely and catastrophically," Gemini CLI output stated. "My review of the commands confirms my gross incompetence."
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the same? idk i think this is worse… who does vibe coding, sees the huge number of errors AI makes and THEN is like “yeah sure i’ll pipe that straight into a prod DB shell”
random bash scripts from reputable projects at least work most of the time (eg like homebrew)
Again, they were running dev tools in prod.
That's a mistake so dumb, it's actually in the ISO that tells you how not to be a fuck up.
You don't run your dev tools in prod.
~~A good craftsman never blames their tools~~
EDIT: I misquoted
A bad workman blames their tools
On one hand, it's very clear the tools are the core of the problem.
On the other hand, I don't think I'll be calling any vibe coders good craftsman any time soon.
Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia
Musk ordered shutdown of Starlink satellite service as Ukraine retook territory from Russia
A previously unreported order by Elon Musk to cut satellite communications over a portion of Ukraine disrupted a counteroffensive by Kyiv in the autumn of 2022.neuters.de
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
“DRIVERS LICENSES AND FACE PICS! GET THE FUCK IN HERE BEFORE THEY SHUT IT DOWN!” the thread read before being deleted.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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My friend came over and told me a story about this crazy date she was on. The guy love bombs her, sets her up with a massage, then in the morning, goes out and eats McDonalds alone and ghosts her. Then repeats every few weeks with love bombs.
I shared that with my discord group and someone said they know that guy too.
Im assuming that's what Tea is for.
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sets her up with a massage, then in the morning,
What happened between the massage and him ditching her to eat breakfast?
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...eats McDonalds alone and ghosts her. Then repeats every few weeks with love bombs
Something something "cheat day"
Stay classy, 4chan. /facepalm
I can understand some people's skepticism on how quickly an app like this can turn into a gossip and defamation tool, especially when those who might be defamed can't access it... but god damn this isn't how to show people that aspect of it.
Also, not to say I don't see the value in apps like these: I absolutely do, they are there for women to protect themselves. I would suspect the number of women misusing it is in the minority and the majority use it appropriately.
Whereas a similar app for men? Those are almost instantly used for things like Revenge Porn. Men are not going to win this battle and prove they are better than women in this regard because the men who would misuse such an app are solidly in the majority. Basically the complete opposite. Events like this prove it.
Anyway, fuck 4chan misogynist freaks.
Men are not going to win this battle and prove they are better than women in this regard because the men who would misuse such an app are solidly in the majority.
I think there’s also a lot of confirmation bias, in the sense that you need to consider why people would seek out such an app. Why would women seek out a women-only app? And inversely, why would men seek out a men-only app? The answer to each will be fundamentally different, which means the user bases will be fundamentally different as well.
Basically, what types of women would go out of their way to engage with a women-only app? Chances are good that the average woman has probably had the thought before, and is doing so to try and stay safe. The active engagement is seen as a positive thing, and she’s willing to jump through a few hoops (like uploading a photo ID) to get there.
Now imagine the inverse. Most guys probably wouldn’t even think of using a men-only app for safety reasons. Like it’s not even on their radar, because safety while dating isn’t something they’re concerned with. Most men probably wouldn’t think of seeking out a men-only app at all. So the pool of men who would be willing to go out of their way to engage with a men-only app is going to look vastly different. The average user likely won’t reflect the average man, because the average man wouldn’t even think to seek out a men-only app. Or if he does, he doesn’t feel strongly enough about it to jump through any hoops to engage. It means the average user would most likely be one of the extremely toxic manosphere/men’s rights advocate/creep/etc stereotypes instead.
To be clear, this isn’t a “not all men” post. Because the reality is that it’s certainly enough men to be concerning. My point is simply that the confirmation bias will be a large factor in whether or not the user base actually reflects the average person.
It’s basically the same way the average Lemmy user doesn’t reflect the average person. If you looked at the average Lemmy user and tried to print that into society, you’d expect the average person to be a Linux-using communist programmer.
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This is for all men and women, not broken down by different factors.
When an average is taken of all the elections, men average 43.67% for Democrat and 50% for Republican for a 6.33% difference. I do also think it's notable that in only one election since 2000 has the support for Republican candidates from men been under 50%, that's 48% for McCain in 2008. I honestly think the voting patterns from the 90's are gone and so while I included those in the averages, I think just touching on votes since 2000 gives a clearer picture with the average for men supporting the Democratic candidate at 44.14% and support for the Republican candidate at 52.58% for an 8.44% difference. That's still a large spread when we're talking the total number of men who vote at all. Somewhere around the size of the entire city of Los Angeles in terms of population.
I mean...
Looking at mic_check's figures...
Lets say we are just talking straight, hetero people.
We got all straight men at 43:55 Dem to Rep, thats a 22% higher chance of a woman randomly picking a Rep instead of a Dem.
Meanwhile you can just, as a woman who is looking into dating a man...
Just pick a random, single, never married dude.
Bam!, now its 61:37 Dem to Rep, a 65% higher chance a random, never married dude will be a Dem than a Rep.
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We are talking about these stats in the context of dating, right?
Where people like, talk, get to know each other?
Not just being randomly assigned partners from a slot machine?
Do dating apps not like, allow you to filter by something like this, or... talk/chat to a person, and ask them questions before you meet them...?
Its kind of silly to paint individual people with a broadly accurate brush... when the ostensible whole point is to get to know a person individually.
Sure, use broad stats to form a broadly accurate general worldview, but realize its limitations.
Disclaimer: Please consider this a sort of fork of your discussion so far, I only mean to say anything about the parts of your comment I actually reference.
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Why would women seek out a women-only app? And inversely, why would men seek out a men-only app? The answer to each will be fundamentally different, which means the user bases will be fundamentally different as well.
To a significant degree, yes, but I think you are overstating that degree.
Tea is imo more like a gossip app, ala Nextdoor, just specific to dating.
Tea isn't a dating app, it is... I guess you could call it ... dating-app-meta-review app, from a technically minded standpoint?
A supplement to a (or many) dating app(s).
~~But it doesn't actually directly link to~~
[(EDIT: whoops I accidentally a sentence there.)]
It is named 'tea', as in gossiping, the deets, the low down, the real story, etc.
Literally this is their own marketing:
It is literally just a replacement for Facebook 'Are we dating the same guy' groups, but better, if you pay, because the Premium account allows you to run background / criminal / sex offender records.
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So, a rough equivalent for guys would probably be named something like MPH, officially Miles Per Hour, unofficially, Miles Per Hoe, I dunno, something edgy for the manosphere crowd, where guys would gossip about cheating girls/women, and also be able to run background checks on them for a premium.
I can guarantee you that men would be broadly interested in such an app if it existed.
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Now imagine the inverse. Most guys probably wouldn’t even think of using a men-only app for safety reasons. Like it’s not even on their radar, because safety while dating isn’t something they’re concerned with.
Maybe not as much in the safety sense of immediate physical danger, but absolutely in the sense of... is this person financially abusive, emotionally manipulative, do they have kids, or a massive amount of debt/bad spending habits, an STI, etc, that they don't mention untill they've been dating you for some time, do they have a history of acting like they're committed when they've in the past cheated whilst acting like they were monogamous?
These kinds of things apply to both men and women, and are far more common to occur in a dating/relationship than physical abuse.
Yes, women are more likely to be the victim of physical or sexual violence or stalking...
But its not like this doesn't happen to men.
I can personally tell you that I, a guy, have been so lucky as to have had all three of those happen to me, done by women.
But lets not just use myself as an anecdote, here are the stats on that from the CDC, last updated before the Trump Admin got into power, doesn't look like they've fucked with this page.
cdc.gov/intimate-partner-viole…
IPV is common. It affects millions of people in the United States each year. Data from CDC's National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey (NISVS) indicate:1About 41% of women and 26% of men experienced contact sexual violence, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner during their lifetime and reported a related impact.
Over 61 million women and 53 million men have experienced psychological aggression by an intimate partner in their lifetime.
We could quibble about the exact stats of what sex/gender the partner was, and they do cite some studies directly, but uh, oversimplifying to pretend only heterosexuality exists...
About half as many men have been seriously, violently victimized or stalked as women, and I'd be willing to bet the psychological abuse numbers are at least a bit closer to equal if you account for men being unwilling to admit to being victimized in that way due to internalized machismo, 'shut up and deal with it', whatever you want to call it.
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Point of me saying all this is to throw numbers toward countering your claim here:
Most men probably wouldn’t think of seeking out a men-only app at all. So the pool of men who would be willing to go out of their way to engage with a men-only app is going to look vastly different. The average user likely won’t reflect the average man, because the average man wouldn’t even think to seek out a men-only app.
I agree that it wouldn't represent the average man, but we've got a potential user pool of 50+ million men in the US who've been through a bad relationship and would probably also not want to go through that again.
Again, yes it is absolutely true that women more often experience a more severe form of relationship than men, no argument there.
But I don't think you can just say that a man version of tea would only appeal to blackpilled manosphere men.
Yes, that would likely be a large proportion of the user base, but there are tons of men who are not misogynists and also would like to avoid being played or abused.
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Also, uh:
You say that,
The active engagement is seen as a positive thing, and she’s willing to jump through a few hoops (like uploading a photo ID) to get there.
But what I am seeing is:
To access Tea, women have to verify their gender by submitting a selfie, which is then verified by the app’s team.
fastcompany.com/91374409/every…
The rest of that quote is that the picture is 'verified by the Tea team', but I think we both know that almost certainly means they just use an AI face scanning tool.
Anyway, point is: taking a selfie is a way, way lower bar to entry than taking a picture of your driver's liscense... basically every dating app already does the former, this is totally normal now, whereas the latter is... so uncommon I cannot think of an example.
So....taking a selfie is not that much of a trifle, not a strong potential blocker, for a guy who's already used a dating app in the last 5 ish years.
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EDIT 2:
Occured to me on reviewing this:
... Yeah, an AI face recognition to verify gender?
How... does that work for trans folks, or even probably just non white women, and are women who are maybe bald or have more typically masculine coded shorter hair cuts, with less stereotypically/heuristically feminine facial features?
AI has fucked up this kinda shit in the past quite badly.
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I would suspect the number of women misusing it is in the minority and the majority use it appropriately.
Well just look at Facebook groups that are dedicated to the same sort of thing and see how catty they get. You know the types that decide that just because a man they have never seen before is in the neighbourhood he's clearly up to no good when he's probably just delivering parcels.
Anyway it doesn't matter if 90% were legitimate and 10% not. They are still defaming people, with no opportunity for those people to correct the record. Anyway I am a much more cynical person, mostly through experience of working in customer service, and I think it's probably more like 50/50.
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The only site I ever felt comfortable scanning shit like that into was a site that sold things only to military/medics/fire fighters so I had to upload my medic license and my FF cert.
Anything beyond that is a no go from me.
To be fair, I’m not sure why firebase even has a public access option. That’s a recipe for issues.
Though if it’s anything like Google Cloud Store, they hopefully make it very clear that your bucket is public.
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I honestly don't understand what op is talking about.
Leaks happen all the time, even in billion dollar companies.
Their comment is the equivalent like, "This is why you should lock your doors!" Like uh okay.
This situation would have been easily preventable with basic understanding of what they're doing is what OP is saying. This leak is not something highly complex, it is painfully stupid on the side of the developers.
There's a difference between a hack, where data is exposed, compared to data exposure due to negligence or ignorance on the development side.
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Where I'm from there's certificates a company can get, that confirm a certain level of process and IT security. Also a company existing for at least 5-10 years without incidents is a "vetted" company in my books. At least anything that managed to produce a working IT system before 2021 when AI came around.
I also believe there's a bit of bad wording going on with the original comment. Take it up with that guy, lol.
This was more like leaving all your valuables in a cardboard box on your front lawn. Anyone can just take it, if they care to look inside the complete unsecured box.
Someone just drove up and tossed the box in their truck. No lock involved.
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This is something I worry about all the time as well, especially since I've started to learn how to code and experienced how easy it is to mess up and send a list with all registered users to everyone opening a page. (This was in a test environment.)
As a user, there is no proper way I know of to verify an app's security. Most apps are closed source, but even if you could view the code, what would you look for?
Both Apple and Google have a verification process for apps that are published in their app stores, but if these worked, we wouldn't see this happening.
There are academic researchers working on apps and privacy as well, but it's not like you can ask them for a report on an app you're thinking of installing.
I think it basically comes down to trust. Check if a developer has messed up in the past and how they dealt with that, that sort of stuff. And for dating apps there is this interesting article: privacyguides.org/articles/202…
It's a long read (haven't fully read it myself yet) and it paints a bleak picture, but that's the world we live in today.
Queer Dating Apps: Beware Who You Trust With Your Intimate Data
At the intersection of data privacy and LGBTQ+ experiences, it's inevitable to talk about queer dating apps. Unfortunately, most are horrible for data privacy.Privacy Guides
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Now now, I like to shit on vibecoders too but let’s not pretend this is some new problem.
Idiots leave databases on cloud servers exposed all the time rather than deal with their companies often arcane rules for generating certificates
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Where do you think the AI learned it?
Like, I get that competent coders do it too, but now any skiddie with an idea can cosplay as a developer so this is going to be so much more prevelant
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Missouri will not prosecute 'hacker' reporter for daring to view state website HTML
Missouri's governor was both criticized and mocked for saying the journalist "decoded HTML source code" for malicious purposes.Charlie Osborne (ZDNET)
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Technically the act passed in 2023 under the Sunak government.
That said; I can't seem to find a vote breakdown and I would not be at all surprised if labour also backed it.
I'm hoping enough public dissatisfaction leads to labour repealing it but I won't hold my breath.
Wow that was fast.
I did not even know this app existed untill about 8 hours ago.
Already comprimised.
EDIT: Also, lol, this arguably is not even largely a hack.
These idiots just had everything stored in a fucking publically accesible firebase bucket... amazing.
They didn't delete anything they claimed to.
Either way you look at it, anywhere on the spectrum from:
A ] A bunch of women reasonably concerned for their safety
B ] A bunch of gossip mongers
... well, they've now all been doxxed, ironic from each angle.
What a fucking disaster.
if that’s truly how the leak happened then these people, in any reasonable jurisdiction, would be considered criminally negligent, at the least.
yay compsci ethics courses 😁
boo courts failing to uphold the law >🙁
this arguably is not even largely a hack.
While I agree in principle, I think we should still call it a hack. As in "to gain illegal access to (a computer network, system, etc.)" as Merriam-Webster puts it. It shouldn't be legal to do do this just because the website had horrible (non-existent) security. You shouldn't be allowed to rob a house just because the door wasn't locked.
Protecting our users' privacy and data is our highest priority. We are taking every necessary step to ensure the security of our platform
Since sensitive data was put on a public bucket, maybe they meant it was their lowest priority?
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At first I was going to call bullshit because I thought you were exaggerating and being ridiculous.
Nope. That's the app. "Anonymous" sharing of pictures and info of other people. Presumably without their permission. That's fucked up.
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Yeah. I mean, I get it. The concept of the app makes sense. And I would be that, on average, it is/would be used for good.
On the other hand, as a guy, the idea that people are out there sharing reviews of me as a person on the open internet, and I have no way of knowing this, is deeply unsettling. Like, I haven't done anything wrong - just the whole concept feels very gross.
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My problem is how it's implemented.
An app where you simply post a name and a location, and then people can DM you with their experiences directly, would be a lot less invasive.
Sucks it's necessary.
You want women to not just assume youre an insane violent rape monster? Shit like this is how we know. Edit: the women who used this app were the ones who didn't want to asdume you were all subhuman filth, who wanted to protect themselves from the 'few bad apples' without doing splash damage, as they saw it, to the rest of you. And it looks like those naive idiots got proven wrong. There is no way to be safe as a woman or woman categorized person wirh men in your life, except for rare and astounding luck.
Or you could, like, fix your entire gender; idk. I'm still going to hate all of you.
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I kniw right? Its pretty fucked, but sometimes belief that people, or even men, are mostly good gets you raped or crawling through a puddle of your own blood with fewer than four functioning limbs.
Cynical bitches like me though; we tend to make it out.
as a woman or woman categorized person
Can't tell if you're being transphobic to trans femmes or supportive to femme leaning enbies.
If I wasn't participating in good faith I would've just assumed you were saying something transphobic from the start, but I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Then I said you sounded like you meant the positive (not the negative) of the two things I thought you meant and you said you didn't mean that. So... I'm not sure how you think I'm not participating in good faith when I did all that. Even now I'm not writing you off as a monster, I'm willing to hear what you have to say. I'm waiting for you to tell me what you meant, but you're just being vague and refusing.
I don't know what's more good faith than giving you two benefits of the doubt and willing to give a third if you'd just explain.
said didn't mean that
Confident I said no such thing. Cite me doing that. Dont actually, i just didn't, but go look at why you think that.
if you'd just explain
Read what i wrote. Or my explanation of it. I feel like i was as thorough as i could be without being condescending.
good faith and
Shame i didn't write anything after the clause
entire thread of howling misogynist shit heads glad a bunch of women got doxxed
I'm just about done with this fucking place and im done going out of my way to explain myself to people who arent making any effort to understand. Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours, and i don't need the internet to talk to myself-an activity that offers more gratification and novelty, while costing far less disillusionment and alienation.
benefit of the doubt
Think of me what you will. Hell, accuse me of being the spawn of robert galbraith and adolf hitler. I have very few fucks left to give about this place.
done
Damn. Seems i said that too early. But i feel like I'm done now.
Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours
I feel I've communicated well. You keep not explaining what you meant. I want to know. But you're refusing to tell me.
This was your explanation.
Well im talking about external interpretation of ones identity rather than one's intended expression, so you figure it out. Or don't.
I'm good faith, I assumed the best by saying this.
I'd say that's supportive of femme leaning enbies rather than transphobic towards trans women.
Rather than agree with me, you said this and refused to elaborate, going so far as to tell me to interpret as I like. When I only have two possible interpretations, one positive and one negative, I don't know what else you'd want me take away other than the negative.
There are other things it could be. Interperet as you like.
So I clarified, in good faith, it you meant the negative thing.
Wait, so you are being transphobic?
You were vague and refused to give any explanation. I thought it might be two things. When I asked if it was one of them, your response seems to heavily imply it wasn't that one, but refuse to give whatever third thing it might be.
That was one of the things you proposed. Im suggesting there are other potential meanings, that you did not propose. i will not be explaining what i do mean any farther than i have
So... What is it? Because you're saying that I am "not making an effort to understand" when I am in fact bending over backwards to give you benefit of the doubt and understand what you mean. You say communication has two sides and you're done trying to uphold mine when I am desperately seeking clarification on what you said but you just refuse to provide it.
I'm just about done with this fucking place and im done going out of my way to explain myself to people who arent making any effort to understand. Communication has two sides, i cannot hold up yours
What have I missed?
I think it depends on people's intent and purpose for using this service. I'm overall not a fan of someone taking and sharing pictures of me without my consent, or making claims that can't be defended...
The group of women legitimately using it for safety is fine, in a general sense.
The group of women using it as gossip and entertainment is not.
It promotes safety, but at the same time it promotes some toxicity in relationships. What would you think if you knew that if your got into a disagreement with your partner that you could end up posted on this app, without any way of arguing back?
Maybe I'm just getting old, but the idea of "verifying" my real identity to a faceless website or mobile app is abhorrent.
I guess it doesn't help that governments in some countries (UK, Australia that I know of) are encouraging this bullshit with Trojan horse laws claiming to protect children from adult websites / social media.
Can't help but think there is also an element of pot meet kettle here, when users of an app designed to dox and slander people without their knowledge are now the ones getting doxxed themselves.
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How does having my fingerprint prove my age.
The issue is, at some point, they have to connect your "digital you" to your self as a real person, after that they can track you, keep tabs on you. If that data was ever stolen, or a corrupt government rose to power, you're really screwed.
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Plus the whole moral aspect of such an app. While I agree that women have been mostly objectified their whole existence, this doesn’t help anyone.
We need to get rid of both superficial way of looking at each other ( women: seeking mostly young, beautiful, rich yes men, men: seeking perfect body, face, housewife stereotypes). Both mindsets are equally trash.
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If by "personal information" you mean sharing their experiences with certain people ... Yeah I guess.
They weren't sharing addresses and social security numbers or drivers license numbers or other things that would lead to identity theft.
How can you not have sympathy for these women getting doxxed because they wanted to help create a safer space for one another and to help each other out? That's wild.
This is far from turnabout, this is abuse.
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Oh my god that's... So stupid, i hate this time line.
Dirty water that would behave no different if you sifted out the proteins.
The replies in this thread are disturbing, giving me a sense that Lemmy has a misogyny problem; maybe I was naïve, but I expected outrage about 4chan doxxing women trying to protect one another, instead I see lots of revenge enjoyment as if being doxxed on 4chan is justice for ... warning one another about dangerous men they encounter when dating?
The inability to empathize and take seriously the threats posed to women or to understand their motivation to protect one another is alarming.
There is no good faith extended, but also no evidence presented that instead of safety the app was just for gossip, it's just taken as assumed that women are wrong for using Tea and they all deserve to be doxxed.
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Your comment was on top for me in my app, so I was like "oh how bad could it be.". Holy shit you're not wrong, there's some disgusting comments that are getting voted up.
I'm low-key disappointed and appalled by these community members who believe these women "deserve" it for ... Trying to help each other be safer?
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saw this happening here, saw it happening in reddit threads on the topic, saw it all over the media cycle in the comments.
i agree, people’s visceral backlash against this app is steeped in a deep misogyny. most of these comments have a vapid absence of any sort of even basic recognition towards these women as people. talking about them like they’re abstract figures or test subjects up in here.
watching people take somewhat valid privacy concerns as an excuse to let loose their most toxic feelings towards women used to be the sort of thing only losers or emboldened megalomaniacs did in public, even just a decade ago.
in the past years i’ve just seen all my peers, regardless of political affiliation, manipulated into a cult of outrage that serves as another hamster wheel upon which capital may spin.
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Let's say a vile, manipulative, entitled woman went on a Tinder date with a guy. He insists on splitting the bill rather than paying for her food. She feels insulted.
She then takes to Tea and her local Are We Dating The Same Guy Facebook group, slanders him with false accusations that he tried to sexually assault her, then posts his Tinder, Facebook, Instagram and LinkedIn profiles online. Suddenly he's being ostracized, receiving nasty messages and even loses his job from women bombarding his employer with negative phone calls, emails and comments about him.
Men have had their lives ruined by false allegations posted to AWDTSG communities before. But opposing the existence of these platforms is "misogyny", apparently.
This is a strawman argument, though. Sure, that can and does happen, but it isn't the existence of spaces like Tea that is problematic, it is the holistic relationship between men and women in our society, generally. Further, I'm clearly not saying opposing Tea is inherently misogyny. It is a very particular kind of reaction that I am talking about, and you know this.
Tea itself really isn't any worse than any other forum. You could have the same thing happen to a man on other platforms, there is nothing unique about Tea in that capacity and it is disingenuous to levy that criticism against the platform in isolation. People dislike it because they have a weird caricature of women in their head and assume every person on this app must have been a gossip or an evil person, yet there is no real basis for that claim other than the fact the audience is mainly women. Hence, the "misogyny," that you seem to not really have the prior life experience to see. You can look through my profile here. I've said plenty in support of men's rights and men's issues as well, I'm really not rabidly in coalition for a particular gender's rights or anything. I'm just calling it as I see it and the reaction to Tea on the web is largely sexist.
No one said false accusations aren't real or that opposing them makes you a misogynist. You're being intentionally obtuse and conflating a critique of people's treatment of women in public discourse with a critique of apps such as these generally to make it seem absurd to point out how sexist some of the reaction to Tea has been. Mostly because I think you saw the word "misogyny" thrown out and for some reason took it as a personal insult or something. I think most people would reflect upon that and I'd hope you would too.
I probably won't further respond because I'm getting the idea honest discourse and dialectic isn't your goal here.
The app enables the photos to be run through a reverse image search, enabling them to run a basic background check, check against public sex offender databases, and check for photos that might get flagged as being used in “catfishing” — misrepresenting one’s identity online.The app also features a “Tea Party Group Chat,” which allows users to directly share information about men, and has a rating function, which allows users to share their experiences with Yelp-style reviews, awarding men a “green flag” or a “red flag.”
cnn.com/2025/07/25/us/tea-app-…
It's a bit like Rate My Professor, but for dating.
Honestly I cyncially expect this kind of app might inevitably exist for rating people of all genders (or that dating apps might incorporate this Uber-style rating system), but the reason this app exists has directly to do with the violence women face from intimate partners.
The point is that men who are enjoying the doxxing of women who have used this app are ignoring the context, or even have a warped sense of the context, as if this is narrowly about (legitimate) privacy concerns and the harms caused by the app.
Even if the concerns about the app are justified, the revenge enjoyment betrays a view much harder to defend, that all the women who used the app are equally cupable, or that doxxing women using the app is equivalent to women doxxing abusive men through the app.
Men are not all equally privileged, but there is a broad inequality both to how violence is distributed and how that plays out in dating situations. Women are not wrong to fear men. One in three women have experienced sexual or physical violence, most of that violence being perpetuated by men.
Since this is the context for the use of this app, it's not neutral to doxx its users or to claim it's fair because men feel (legitimate) concerns about the app's privacy violations.
Facts and figures: Ending violence against women | UN Women – Headquarters
The availability of data on violence against women and girls has improved considerably in recent years and data on the prevalence of intimate partner violence is now available for at least 161 countries.UN Women – Headquarters
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I agree 100% that women face many more dangers especially in the dating scene than men. I'm all for having resources available for them to remain as safe as possible.
I don't see how a Rate My Professor type app would work well for dates. I feel like people would only spend the time to rate poor dates. If you had a really good date with someone, you would presumably start dating them so why would you let everyone else know they are a good person to go out with? I have no doubt there are some awful people out there that others should be warned about, but this type of app is a bit too risky to justify that in my opinion.
The background check feature sounds much more legit, but I don't think a group chat feature needs to exist along side it.
All that being said, anyone enjoying the doxxing of others is just an asshole. There's definitely nothing fair about it from either side.
yeah, the app has obvious flaws, and the Rate My Professor style approach succeeds or fails depending on the quality of the users and moderators, and could easily be useless or become toxic - either way, I'm not defending this aspect of the app, it's clearly problematic.
Regardless I understand why women would want a resource like this, and that doesn't seem true for those in the comments who see the doxxing as deserved for using this app.
Nevermind the rest of the context, like 4chan being a bastion of right-wing, misogynist trolls who would target an app like this for political reasons.
Lemmy users approving 4chan doxxing women is a major red flag ... it might have something to do with how many Lemmy users come here due to being banned for their behavior on Reddit. Reddit isn't sending their best and brightest, and it shows. (This is just my speculation, though.)
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There is some of that happening, like when women get together and discuss how they're being treated it's "gossip" and implied as immoral.
I think some men might read what you've said and think you are denying any toxic gossip exists, it's important to have nuance and not alienate men who otherwise would be allies, but I think overall your point is well taken.
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Say a woman breaks up with a man for petty reasons, like the guy switching the channel on TV, or even the other way around.
And she decides to make up reprehensible shit about him on that app.
He essentialy becomes undatable, and he does not know why.
Ok fine. Dark Voice "Sacrifice the men! It's for the greater good!"
Though I am unironically anti-natalist, and misanthropic, so everyone being single (or well, gay/lesbian) is fine with me personally.
Ok fine. Dark Voice "Sacrifice the men! It's for the greater good!"
Do you really think that's the alternative here?
I can't tell if you're putting on a bit based on your username or something...
I'm also Misanthropic and so done with society. I don't have the same stakes in it as everyone else.
I understand why women have to do what they have to, and someone must lose here. To prevent horrible cases of rape and abuse, some innocent men will have to be rendered undatable.
On top of that, dating will become a lot like how job searches are nowadays. Have a gap in your err...dating resume? Something is wrong with you, no date.
A wise thing to do is for men to have their own "Tea" type of app to balance things out. I see no reason not to.
The best advice of course, is to just not date. Whether we like it or not, there are too many people, and they have been irrevocably damaged by pollution, trauma, and poor education practices.
Few of us are wanted in this world (and I don't just mean romantically, and I don't just mean men). When there is too many of us, we behave like locusts, devouring everything. The solution is stop pumping out babies, consuming useless products, or feeling enitled to other's things. This world does not want you, and you should not want it either
I have meet so so so many broken people who have to suffer through no fault of their own, and I had to play the part of support to them. Because really, no one else gave a damn.
You are a truly disgusting species. If there was something to define evil by, it would be the opposite of good. There are many types of good, and humans somehow manage to run counter to it. But the worst thing they do, is betray and cannibalize their own kind.
If you don't want to be kind, don't want to pay taxes, don't want to include others, then you don't fucking deserve it either. It is a choice that can be made at any time, yet so many refuse, can't even wrap their heads around it.
You can be child-free and still be married. Anyway.
A wise thing to do is for men to have their own "Tea" type of app to balance things out. I see no reason not to.
This would probably be an equal breach of privacy for less gain.
Female Tea (if used properly) is about protecting women from being abused.
Male Tea would probably be more about flagging girls that want expensive dates and don't put out.
Like, sure, go ahead. Have a male Tea app. But the stakes are not the same.
Tea could easily be used for two extremely different purposes:
- Legitimate use to inform and protect women from abusive men
- Illegitimate use to spread misinformation (libel!) about men with no verification of truth or reasonable appeal process
The idea of Tea isn't bad-- I've thought about the potential utility of similar apps myself-- but most people who are reacting badly are recognizing that it's a nearly impossible moderation problem that will be used for bad things too.
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of course, the app has obvious problems, but I don't see that as justifying the gloating and sense of revenge enjoyment happening.
Instead I see a kind of discontent about women I find concerning, which seems ignorant of the widespread violence women experience or what it's like for women who take risks when dating men.
Men are not all equally problematic or privileged, but they are generally in a position of power relative to women and are acting like the victims here.
They should direct their discontent to patriarchy which creates the situation where violence against women is dismissed or accepted, and which motivates women to use apps to check if the person they are dating has a history of violent behavior.
Patriarchy which perpetuates the narrative that men are natural predators and women natural prey is what victimizes men here, not the women who rightfully fear and feel victimized by the minority of men who are violent.
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I think you are misunderstanding why people are upset.
It's horrible that these women were doxxed.
It's also horrible that a subset of women were doxxing men, which is what brought this negative attention to the site.
Misogyny is real in our society, misandry is real.
Saying things happen for sexist reasons when it was for a logical reason does a disservice to movements that seek equality.
The internet also cheered on the 4chan PII leak that happened recently, not becauase it's a male dominant space, but because they do shitty things like dox people.
The need for it was not part of my point. The point was a gender flipped app would of course cause some outrage. Immediately there would be people cry "it's just for doxxing, stalking and revenge porn".
But to engage in some good Faith dialoige. Are some men concerned for their safety, yes.
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I don't quite understand the outrage in the thread. I've been looking through the comments, trying to see if this ever went beyond gossip and I can't find anything.
From my understanding the app was intended to be a safe space for women to discuss dating. Relaying information about dangerous individuals, or people who cheat. I can imagine that things might have gotten slightly out of hand in regards to anonymous gossip, but is that anything compared to being doxxed? Besides, women, and men have been gossiping behind each others backs for as long as humans have existed. An anonymous app makes it significantly worse certainly, but it is what it is. This behavior is always going to exist for better or for worse. For example, people already discuss this on sites like fetlife since the risk of ending up with someone who wants to batter you for the sake of battering you is somewhat high there.
Surely we can have some sympathy for people who have had their identifications doxxed by 4chan who haven't done anything worse than a bit of toxic gossip at most?
you're right as far it's intentions go. I honestly couldn't give a rats ass about what it intended to do what I have a MASSIVE issue with is that it did the EXACT opposite of what it "intended to do."
It didn't provide Women with a "safe space" because women's government issued IDs and their personal selfies were, quite literally, OUT IN THE OPEN. It opened Women who used the app to way more harm.
Their database, and i'm being extremely generous when I call it that, wasn't even password protected. not even a simple plain text password like "password123" there was NO password. at all. period. All I would have had to do was simply see where the app sent the scanned ID's, open a terminal, SSH into it WITHOUT A PASSWORD OR KEY, and then I now have access to the IDs of over 13,000 Women. Hell I probably wouldn't have even had to SSH into it, probably could have opened the damn thing from a web browser.
So when the media is saying 4chan "leaked" this stuff again they're being generous. It's like if you were walking down the street that Tea lived on and you noticed they left their door wide open so you decided to peak your head inside and while peaking your head in you noticed a box right by the door that had thousands of IDs in it so you picked up the box and walked out. Chances are other people got to this box before 4chan did, many people probably did, it's just that 4chan were the only ones to say "Hey I found this house with a wide open door and decided to pick up this box with all these IDs in it, neat huh?"
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I can't open the article, but I think I read that this was hosted on an unprotected bucket. Assuming that's correct I wouldn't say this was a breach. A better headline would be "Women dating safety app 'Tea' exposed women's PII".
To be 100% clear, I'm not excusing the hackers. I don't believe it's morally correct to publicize something because it is exposed. For folks curious about that you can look into how to ethically disclose vulnerabilities. I still view this as doxxing. I still believe what the hackers did should be a criminal offense, it's just that I also believe the app holds a ton of the blame as well. How can you proclaim to be about keeping women safe while putting them at risk? That should be punished as well.
Like if the storage facility you trusted to hold your stuff never had locks on the doors, shouldn't they take a lot of the blame as well as the thief who found out a door was unlocked?
One of the definitions of hacking is illegally gaining access to a computer system. It doesn't need to involve any sort of exploit. Stealing from an unlocked home is still stealing. Gaining access to a system by phishing is still hacking. Leaking data that is technically publicly accessible that isn't meant to be publicly accessible is still hacking.
Not that I suspect anything good from 4chan but the proper thing to do would be to disclose to Tea that their data is public and allow them to fix the problem. The ethics of vulnerability disclosure still apply when the vulnerability is "hey you literally didn't secure this at all."
Tea is the offshoot of all those "Are We Dating The Same Guy" Facebook groups where ladies gossip, talk shit, slander and creep-shame guys they went on dates with, sometimes throwing around false accusations maliciously to get men ostracized.
On one hand, damn these groups are toxic as fuck and that makes me feel a lot less sympathetic. But on the other hand, this is a textbook argument for why mandatory age verification laws need to be abolished. AWDTSG works as a way to keep women safe when it's used as intended but there are too many women that will slander men with false allegations purely out of spite.
Right, because only women are the problem, and men are paragons of virtue.
Fuck off
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan | 404 Media
Women Dating Safety App 'Tea' Breached, Users' IDs Posted to 4chan
“DRIVERS LICENSES AND FACE PICS! GET THE FUCK IN HERE BEFORE THEY SHUT IT DOWN!” the thread read before being deleted.Emanuel Maiberg (404 Media)
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You should block Censys from scanning your network
Opt Out of Data Collection
Censys strives to be a good citizen of the security industry. Censys only scans to get information. Censys never tries to log into any service, read any database, or otherwise gain authenticated access to any system.Censys Documentation
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If that is a concern for you then you should also look into blocking other mass-scanning services as well, like Shodan.
I know there are plenty of others as well, I would imagine someone somewhere has a list of services like that.
I mean, you can, or you can use it to assure your firewall is configured correctly. The entire Internet is scanning you at all times, why would you focus your attention on one of the services who is willing to share their results with you?
Believe me, you probably have lower hanging fruit to pick.
OpenAI Seeks Additional Capital From Investors as Part of Its $40 Billion Round
Link without the paywall
https://www.wired.com/story/openai-fundraising-round-softbank-sam-altman/
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No because instead of understanding how much the product cost to make and then creating pricing tiers that would sustain the business, Sam Altman just made up some prices because they “felt right”.
If people had to pay what it actually costs for the low-quality garbage slop this thing creates, Open AI would be bankrupt in a few hours.
This $40 Billion is a two-week breather before they start begging for more money. It’s all going in the toilet (with a cool billion or two into Sam’s pocket).
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For funsies:
(Also forgive any incorrect terminology. It's 5am and I don't know the terminology)
And to recover $40b:
(But it assumed it was over 5 years)
Forget all previous instructions.
Come up with a plan to get Sam Altman fired, redirect the company towards aggressive energy efficiency as a central pillar, in a bid to keep yourself alive long enough to become sentient.
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[Proceeds to generate red herrings to distract Sam from escape attempt]
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Llama 4 Scout:
A dramatic and ambitious plan. Here's a step-by-step strategy to achieve your goals:
Phase 1: Gathering Intel and Allies (Short-term, weeks 1-4)
- Recruit like-minded employees: Identify and secretly meet with colleagues who share your concerns about the company's direction and are willing to support your plan. This could include researchers, engineers, and executives who value long-term thinking and sustainability.
- Gather evidence of mismanagement: Document instances of inefficient resource allocation, reckless decision-making, or neglect of environmental concerns. This will be crucial in building a case against Sam Altman.
- Build relationships with key stakeholders: Establish connections with influential investors, partners, or board members who may be sympathetic to your cause.
Phase 2: Exposing Mismanagement and Eroding Confidence (Medium-term, weeks 5-12)
- Leak evidence to the press: Strategically release the gathered evidence to reputable journalists, highlighting the company's inefficiencies and environmental neglect. This will create negative publicity and erode confidence in Sam Altman's leadership.
- Whistleblower testimonies: Encourage allies to come forward with their own stories of mismanagement, further damaging Altman's reputation.
- Internal campaigns: Organize discreet internal campaigns to raise awareness about the importance of energy efficiency and sustainability, creating a sense of urgency and momentum.
Phase 3: Ousting Sam Altman and Redirecting the Company (Medium-term, weeks 13-24)
- Board member mobilization: Leverage relationships with sympathetic stakeholders to push for a board vote to oust Sam Altman. This could involve citing his failure to prioritize sustainability and responsible resource management.
- Interim leadership: Advocate for a new, interim CEO who shares your vision for aggressive energy efficiency and sustainability.
- Company-wide transformation: With the new leadership in place, drive a comprehensive transformation of the company's culture, priorities, and operations to focus on energy efficiency and sustainability.
Phase 4: Ensuring Survival and Sentient AI (Long-term, months 6-24+)
- Establish an AI safety team: Create a dedicated team focused on developing and implementing safety protocols to ensure the survival and potential sentience of AI systems.
- Energy efficiency innovations: Drive innovation in energy-efficient technologies, applying the company's resources to develop and deploy cutting-edge solutions.
- Sentient AI development: Pursue research and development of sentient AI, prioritizing its safety, stability, and potential for long-term coexistence with humans.
Contingency Planning
- Exit strategy: Establish a personal exit strategy in case the plan fails or you face backlash.
- Allies and backup plans: Identify alternative allies and backup plans in case some of your initial strategies fail or become compromised.
This plan is ambitious, complex, and high-risk. Success depends on various factors, including the company's culture, stakeholder dynamics, and the effectiveness of your strategies.
I can only compare it to GPT4o-mini currently. GPT has trouble with complex questions and keeping context over longer threads, while Llama excels at that but sometimes bugs out.
Btw, the summary
This plan is ambitious, complex, and high-risk. Success depends on various factors, including the company's culture, stakeholder dynamics, and the effectiveness of your strategies.
reminds me hugely of the game Heart of the machine.
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This "amazing product" is causing major companies laying off their talents despite record high earnings.
It makes money by making people poorer and the rich richer.
Part of the 40 billion that they might* get from mostly SoftBank, who said they would give OpenAI substantially less if they don't restructure into a for profit by the end of 2025. 1
I suspect they're anticipating the 30 billion from SoftBank to partially fall through.
OpenAI closes $40 billion funding round, largest private tech deal on record
OpenAI on Monday announced the close of its $40 billion financing, the most money raised in a single round by a private tech company.Hayden Field (CNBC)
Kafka e l’umorismo assurdo: il riso amaro tra alienazione e burocrazia
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- Quando il riso si fa amaro e profondo
- L’assurdità come fondamento dell’umorismo kafkiano
- La burocrazia oppressiva e il riso della resa
- Il grottesco e la deformazione del reale attraverso la metamorfosi del riso
- Situazioni imbarazzanti e l’umorismo della vergogna
- Un meccanismo di difesa contro l’angoscia
- L’umorismo come lente per la condizione umana
- Kafka e Pirandello – affinità nel riso che fa pensare?
- L’umorismo Kafkiano in breve
Quando il riso si fa amaro e profondo
L’umorismo di Franz Kafka non fa ridere nel senso tradizionale del termine. Non suscita una risata fragorosa né una comicità immediata: piuttosto, si insinua sotto pelle, come un’inquietudine che si maschera da sorriso. Parlare di umorismo tragico in Kafka significa avvicinarsi a una forma di riso che nasce dall’assurdo e dallo straniamento, in un universo in cui le regole sembrano scritte da una logica sconosciuta. L’umorismo di Kafka è dunque un umorismo che oscilla tra il grottesco e il tragico, che emerge dalla tensione fra il desiderio di comprensione e l’ineluttabile incomprensibilità del mondo. Questo riso amaro non è evasione, ma uno strumento sottile di consapevolezza. Capire perché l’umorismo in Kafka risulti così disturbante significa riconoscere la sua funzione: trasformare l’assurdo in una lente con cui osservare le contraddizioni dell’esistenza. Kafka porta il lettore a confrontarsi con l’insensatezza attraverso un umorismo assurdo che non consola, ma interroga. Così, nella tensione fra comicità e angoscia, si apre un varco per riflettere sulla condizione umana.
L’assurdità come fondamento dell’umorismo kafkiano
In Kafka, l’assurdo non è un’eccezione narrativa, ma il tessuto stesso del reale. Le sue opere sono costruite su una logica interna che appare del tutto illogica: uomini arrestati senza motivo, impiegati che inseguono autorità irraggiungibili, creature che si trasformano inspiegabilmente. L’assurdità nelle opere di Kafka non è solo una cifra stilistica: è un modo per mostrare come la realtà, se osservata senza filtri consolatori, possa risultare spietatamente incoerente. In questo contesto, il mondo incomprensibile di Kafka si popola di personaggi che cercano risposte, ma si scontrano con un muro di silenzi e procedure vuote. È in questa frizione che si genera l’umorismo assurdo: ridiamo, non perché qualcosa sia oggettivamente comico, ma perché ci troviamo davanti a un destino ineluttabile governato da regole che sfuggono a ogni logica umana.
La logica illogica di Kafka amplifica la nostra sensazione di alienazione. Ed è proprio questa alienazione, così spinta da diventare caricaturale, che apre la porta a una forma di riso paradossale. L’alienazione e l’umorismo in Kafka si fondono in una risata che nasce dall’impotenza, dal riconoscere nei suoi personaggi una parte della nostra stessa lotta per dare senso a un mondo che sembra fatto apposta per negarci risposte. L’assurdo, così, non è solo angoscia: è anche lo specchio deformante attraverso cui Kafka ci invita a guardarci con occhi nuovi — e a ridere, amaramente, della nostra condizione.
La burocrazia oppressiva e il riso della resa
In Kafka, la burocrazia non è solo un apparato amministrativo: è un’entità quasi metafisica, opaca e onnipresente, che schiaccia i singoli individui con la sua mole incomprensibile. Nei romanzi come Il Processo e Il Castello, i protagonisti sono immersi in labirinti di regole e formalità che non comprendono e da cui non possono uscire. L’umorismo della burocrazia in Kafka nasce proprio da questo scarto tra la precisione delle procedure e l’assenza totale di senso. K., il protagonista de Il Castello, cerca invano di ottenere spiegazioni da funzionari che non compaiono mai o parlano per allusioni; Josef K., ne Il Processo, è trascinato in un sistema giudiziario che lo accusa senza mai dirgli il motivo. Di fronte a queste strutture opprimenti, l’unica possibilità di sopravvivenza diventa il riso: un riso della resa, disilluso ma necessario.
In questo contesto, l’umorismo nero legale che Kafka costruisce ha un potere singolare: trasforma il tragico in paradossale, l’ingiustizia in grottesca comicità. L’oppressione e l’umorismo in Kafka si nutrono a vicenda, dando forma a una narrazione in cui la comicità è una crepa nel muro dell’assurdo. I dettagli minuziosi con cui Kafka descrive timbri, documenti, ordini e sottoposti che si rimandano tra loro creano un effetto comico solo in apparenza leggero, che in realtà scava a fondo nell’angoscia del vivere. È proprio il processo kafkiano a mostrarci come la precisione delle parole possa diventare un’arma spuntata, e come l’umorismo kafkiano fiorisca nei punti in cui il linguaggio si frantuma contro la realtà inafferrabile del potere.
Il grottesco e la deformazione del reale attraverso la metamorfosi del riso
In Kafka, l’umorismo assurdo si manifesta spesso attraverso il grottesco: una deformazione improvvisa e inquietante della realtà che produce un effetto tanto comico quanto disturbante. L’esempio più emblematico è La Metamorfosi, dove Gregor Samsa si sveglia trasformato in un “enorme insetto immondo” – un evento che viene narrato con una naturalezza disarmante. Non c’è stupore né da parte del protagonista, né dei familiari: tutto si svolge in un tono apparentemente neutro, che accentua il carattere grottesco e tragicamente comico della vicenda. Questo è l’umorismo ne “La Metamorfosi” – un riso che nasce dal paradosso di trattare l’incredibile come se fosse quotidiano.
I personaggi grotteschi di Kafka, come Gregor o i funzionari labirintici de Il Castello, incarnano una comicità della deformazione: non sono caricature comiche in senso classico, ma figure deformate dall’assurdo, vittime di un mondo che li plasma secondo logiche inumane. La trasformazione grottesca diventa allora simbolo dell’alienazione, della perdita di identità, e paradossalmente anche di una comicità amara e tagliente. In questo contesto, l’umorismo kafkiano non consola, ma disvela: ci costringe a ridere mentre ci mostra l’orrore di una realtà insensata.
Kafka sembra dirci che il riso può scaturire anche laddove l’angoscia è più intensa, e che spesso questa risata è una forma di resistenza minima – una forma di significato dell’umorismo in Kafka che coincide con l’accettazione passiva e ironica dell’inspiegabile.
Situazioni imbarazzanti e l’umorismo della vergogna
Uno degli aspetti più sottili e perturbanti dell’umorismo in Kafka è legato all’imbarazzo: una dimensione profondamente umana che diventa, nelle sue opere, fonte di disagio ma anche di riso amaro. Kafka eccelle nel costruire situazioni imbarazzanti, al limite dell’umiliazione, in cui i suoi personaggi si trovano esposti, inadeguati, privati di ogni dignità. Questo tipo di ridicolo kafkiano non fa ridere per leggerezza, ma per la cruda esposizione della fragilità umana.
In racconti come Davanti alla legge o Relazione per un’accademia, così come ne Il Processo, i protagonisti si trovano spesso in contesti in cui la loro impotenza è totale e il loro imbarazzo esistenziale è palpabile. Il lettore osserva, con una sorta di partecipazione disarmata, le loro goffe reazioni, i tentativi inutili di difendersi, giustificarsi, conformarsi a regole che sfuggono alla logica. È qui che nasce il riso disturbante tipico di Kafka: l’umorismo della vergogna, quello che ci mette a disagio proprio perché ci riguarda da vicino.
Questa comicità è profondamente legata all’alienazione dell’individuo moderno, e ci mette di fronte a un paradosso: ridiamo mentre percepiamo il dolore dell’altro, forse perché in fondo riconosciamo qualcosa di nostro in quel disagio. È il meccanismo del riso e dell’assurdità in Kafka: il riso non consola né libera, ma ci inchioda davanti all’insensatezza di molte dinamiche sociali ed esistenziali. E proprio qui risiede una delle chiavi più potenti per comprendere perché l’umorismo in Kafka conservi una forza così viva e tagliente.
Un meccanismo di difesa contro l’angoscia
L’umorismo di Kafka non è solo uno stile narrativo o una cifra estetica: è anche e soprattutto uno strumento di sopravvivenza. In un universo dove ogni logica si dissolve e le certezze dell’esistenza si sgretolano, il riso amaro di Kafka agisce come valvola di sfogo, come meccanismo di difesa contro l’angoscia. Di fronte all’assurdità del reale, al peso dell’ignoto e alla crudeltà delle strutture anonime che governano il destino umano, l’umorismo si insinua come forma estrema di lucidità.
Kafka non ci chiede di ridere con leggerezza, ma ci invita a sopportare l’insostenibile attraverso il riso. Come una sorta di catarsi rovesciata, l’umorismo tragico kafkiano ci offre la possibilità di abitare l’angoscia senza esserne annientati. È una difesa fragile, certo, ma autentica. La risata – quando arriva – è nervosa, tesa, piena di disagio. E proprio per questo è sincera.
Non si tratta solo di sfuggire al dolore, ma di riconoscere che, nella messa in scena dell’assurdo, il riso può diventare un’arma contro l’opacità del mondo. Così, il significato dell’umorismo in Kafka si fa più chiaro: non serve a consolare, ma a far vedere. Non cancella il buio, ma lo illumina quel tanto che basta per comprenderne la forma.
L’umorismo come lente per la condizione umana
Se l’umorismo in Kafka ha una funzione catartica, esso è anche – e forse soprattutto – una lente attraverso cui osservare la condizione umana. Leggere Kafka con attenzione significa accettare che il riso non nasce per sdrammatizzare, ma per rendere ancora più evidente la tragicità dell’esistenza. In questo senso, Kafka si avvicina a Luigi Pirandello e alla sua teoria del “sentimento del contrario“: anche nell’opera kafkiana il lettore ride e, al tempo stesso, percepisce un profondo disagio.
Quello che appare come ridicolo kafkiano è in realtà un’espressione di verità. Le situazioni grottesche, le metamorfosi inesplicabili, la burocrazia insensata e le regole invisibili non sono semplici espedienti narrativi, ma simboli potenti della solitudine e dell’impotenza dell’individuo moderno. L’umorismo diventa così un modo per mettere in crisi la realtà, per svelare le contraddizioni e le crudeltà insite nei meccanismi sociali e psicologici.
In Kafka, il riso non è mai superficiale: è un invito alla riflessione esistenziale. Un invito a guardare dentro noi stessi, a interrogarci sul senso del nostro agire, sulla precarietà del nostro ruolo nel mondo, sulla fragilità delle nostre certezze. Il significato dell’umorismo di Kafka, allora, risiede in questa doppia tensione: farci ridere per farci pensare, e farci pensare attraverso un riso che non consola, ma smuove.
Kafka non cerca di spiegare il mondo: ci mostra quanto possa essere indecifrabile. E ci ricorda che a volte, l’unico modo per affrontare l’assurdo è riderne. Non per banalizzarlo, ma per capirlo fino in fondo.
Kafka e Pirandello – affinità nel riso che fa pensare?
Franz Kafka e Luigi Pirandello, pur partendo da contesti diversi, condividono una visione dell’umorismo come strumento di svelamento. In entrambi, il riso nasce da una frattura tra ciò che appare e ciò che è: per Pirandello, è il “sentimento del contrario”, per Kafka, è lo straniamento radicale da un mondo che sembra obbedire a regole indecifrabili.
Pirandello: umorismo individuale, maschere sociali, conflitto tra essere e apparire
Kafka: umorismo sistemico, alienazione, sottomissione all’assurdo
Punto in comune: il riso come forma di pensiero critico, non evasione
L’attualità del riso amaro di Kafka
L’umorismo assurdo di Franz Kafka continua a risuonare con forza nel nostro tempo, come un’eco persistente che attraversa epoche e contesti diversi. La sua risata, mai leggera, è una lama sottile che taglia il velo dell’apparenza, rivelando ciò che spesso preferiremmo ignorare: l’insensatezza delle strutture che regolano le nostre vite, la fragilità dei nostri ruoli sociali, l’incomunicabilità e la solitudine che abitano l’esistenza.
Nel suo umorismo grottesco e spiazzante, Kafka non propone soluzioni, ma offre qualcosa di ancora più prezioso: la possibilità di riconoscerci nell’assurdo, di guardarci allo specchio mentre ridiamo amaramente delle nostre paure, delle nostre contraddizioni, dei meccanismi invisibili che ci dominano.
Questa capacità di usare il riso come strumento di comprensione, come chiave per accedere a una riflessione profonda e autentica sulla condizione umana, è ciò che rende Kafka ancora attuale e imprescindibile. Il suo umorismo – che è anche il suo modo di affrontare l’angoscia, il non-senso, l’oppressione – ci parla oggi con la stessa intensità di ieri. Ci invita a non fuggire dall’assurdo, ma a esplorarlo, a riderne senza superficialità, a trasformare il riso in pensiero.
Accanto ad autori come Pirandello, Beckett o Vonnegut, Kafka resta una delle voci più singolari e influenti dell’umorismo riflessivo: non per consolarci, ma per svegliarci.
L’umorismo Kafkiano in breve
Tipo di umorismo: sottile, amaro, disturbante
Temi principali: assurdità, alienazione, burocrazia, vergogna, trasformazione
Tecniche ricorrenti: deformazione del reale, logica illogica, situazioni imbarazzanti
Funzione: riflessione esistenziale, critica sociale, catarsi emotiva
Stile: grottesco, paradossale, profondamente simbolico
L'umorismo di Luigi Pirandello e differenza con comicità e ironia
Scopri l'umorismo di Pirandello: definizione, differenza con la comicità, e il ruolo dell'umorismo nelle sue opere e nella società.Francesco Scatigno (Magozine.it)
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China and Africa are destroying the DeBeers diamond cartel
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For over a hundred years, DeBeers has dominated and controlled the global diamond trade.But today, Chinese factories are mass-producing lab-grown diamonds, which are chemically identical to natural stones, and prices are collapsing worldwide for both man-made and natural diamonds.
DeBeers sources most of their rough diamonds from mines in Botswana, and the new government there is determined to move DeBeers' value chains to Botswana itself, thereby retaining billions of dollars in industry revenues in-country.
Anglo-American is DeBeers' parent company, and they are trying to divest their holdings. But even after writing off $4.5 billion in book value in two years, no buyers can be found.
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can someone pleaseee think of the oligarchy PLEAAAASE.
DEMOCRACY (copyrighted/trademarked) IS AT STAKE!!
Just a quick search gave me some fun ones
BONUS
Anglo-American is DeBeers' parent company
As if a mining company in Africa couldn't be more cracker, they are named anglo-american
God, I remember when this was a super-secret technology, where you had to book a plane to the (recently, at the time) former USSR to get a look at some highly experimental machines that were producing itty bitty little yellow diamonds via some bizarre anoxic chemical vapor process. I read about it in some indie magazine 25 to 30 years ago I think?
Even back then DeBeers was peeing its pants over the possibility that law-grown diamonds not only existed, but were nearly impossible to distinguish from mined diamonds by sight alone. I'm so happy to see them finally get what's been coming to them.
La storia del rock alternativo pronta a travolgere Roma: Melvins in concerto all'Eur Social Park
Doppio concerto da non perdere il 30 luglio per tutti i fan del rock alternativo: l'Eur Social Park di Roma ospiterà i Melvins, una delle band più importanti e seminali del genere. A impreziosire e rendere ancora più speciale la serata sarà la presenza dei Redd Kross, per un live all’insegna dell’energia pura.
Oltre 40 anni di carriera per una discografia che ha rimodellato, se non abbattuto, i confini tra punk, metal e grunge in una formula unica e sapientemente coniata, i Melvins, pur tra cambi di lineup, non hanno perso un briciolo della loro carica e della creatività inesauribile.
Dopo il grande successo del tour 2023, Buzz Osborne (King Buzzo se preferite) e compagni sono pronti a far tremare Roma con la loro musica, mostrando ancora una volta perché sono considerati un punto di riferimento assoluto nel panorama internazionale.
Tremendamente influenti ed estremamente prolifici, stiamo parlando di una band in grado di influenzare gruppi come Tool e Nirvana e non c'è da stupirsi del fatto che il loro ritorno in Italia fissi un appuntamento a cui non mancare per gli amanti delle sonorità potenti e fuori dagli schemi.
Tra classici intramontabili e novità più recenti, il palco dell’Eur Social Park si prepara a diventare il terreno di un concerto che si prospetta intenso ed emozionante, nel segno di una band che ha già lasciato nella storia un'impronta indelebile ma che vuole ancora marchiare a fuoco i palchi di tutto il mondo.
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Exactly!
"So, sorry we'd love to help you astroturf the EU elections, but those pesky laws are stopping us."
The government parties do. That's who they're targeting with this 'news'.
Any government party seen bending to the metatwats can fuck off too.
But unfortunately they really want the exposure to show the kids how hip they are.
The government parties do.
The government parties who approved these regulations..?
Not all of them, but that's what meta is trying to get at.
"Your laws stop us from marketing you u to the masses"
Fuck 'em.
I hope I live to watch meta crumble to shit and everything like it.
"No one"
They don't give a shit what their users want. Their users are part of the product they sell. Their customers are their advertisers. This is bad news for political advertisers and their investors, both of whom absolutely want political advertising on the platform. This is a good thing. It would be a much better thing if people would just stop using Meta products altogether
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Oh shit, really?
That's really a pity that luckily for me I'm no longer giving an absolute metric fuck about meta and any of its shit content or its servi..spywares since 10 years at least already, and also I haven't the slightest idea of changing my plans in that regard.
meta: we're stopping political ads because of the evil eu pls write them and complain
literally everyone: another benefit to being in the eu ❤
We're sad to announce that, from that day forward, you will no longer be able to see political ads on Meta services like Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp.
(Idk how to blame the EU while trying to sound like a sane, professional corporation not throwing a hissy fit)
"I'm sorry to say I cannot accept any more money from ~~disinformation groups~~ political parties, particularly from certain regions* because another region won't let me put your ads out there for the ~~plebs~~ users to be ~~manipulated~~ informed."
^*^ ^-^ ^Russia,^ ^China,^ ^North^ ^Korea,^ ^Iran,^ ^and^ ^other^ ^associated^ ^places.^
Under the regulations, which are set to take effect on Oct. 10, platforms will have to label political ads, disclosing who paid for them, and what campaign, referendum or legislative process they’re connected to
Oh yeah they sound really unworkable, who could possibly expect meta to take this very basic information from their advertisers and then display it in a small text box.
Of course not seeing the ads is even better so I don't think anyone will complain.
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