Immigration Agents Arrest Firefighters Combatting Bear Gulch Wildfire
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Nikki McCann Ramirez
August 28, 2025[This takes the cake - read this article and you will hear your blood boil.]
Immigration Agents Arrest Firefighters Combatting Bear Gulch Wildfire
Nikki McCann Ramirez
August 28, 2025[This takes the cake - read this article and you will hear your blood boil.]
Immigration Agents Arrest Firefighters Combating Wildfire
Federal immigration agents arrested two firefighters responding to the Bear Gulch wildfire in Washington state, The Seattle Times reports.Nikki McCann Ramirez (Rolling Stone)
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The family of teenager who died by suicide alleges OpenAI's ChatGPT is to blame
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Aug. 26, 2025, 7:40 AM EDT
By Angela Yang, Laura Jarrett and Fallon Gallagher[this is a truly scary incident, which shows the incredible dangers of AI without guardrails.]
The family of teenager who died by suicide alleges OpenAI's ChatGPT is to blame
Aug. 26, 2025, 7:40 AM EDT
By Angela Yang, Laura Jarrett and Fallon Gallagher[this is a truly scary incident, which shows the incredible dangers of AI without guardrails.]
The family of teenager who died by suicide alleges OpenAI's ChatGPT is to blame
The parents of Adam Raine, who died by suicide in April, claim in a new lawsuit against OpenAI that ChatGPT was “explicit in its instructions and encouragement toward suicide.”Angela Yang (NBC News)
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The family of teenager who died by suicide alleges OpenAI's ChatGPT is to blame
Aug. 26, 2025, 7:40 AM EDT
By Angela Yang, Laura Jarrett and Fallon Gallagher
[this is a truly scary incident, which shows the incredible dangers of AI without guardrails.]
The family of teenager who died by suicide alleges OpenAI's ChatGPT is to blame
The parents of Adam Raine, who died by suicide in April, claim in a new lawsuit against OpenAI that ChatGPT was “explicit in its instructions and encouragement toward suicide.”Angela Yang (NBC News)
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MAGA Puts Wikipedia in Its Crosshairs
MAGA Puts Wikipedia in Its Crosshairs
Prominent Republicans are trying to fight "bias" online.Lucas Ropek (Gizmodo)
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Quick question, honest question......
At what point are the right happy?
Because the left will be happy when everybody has equal rights, and a high standard of living for everyone.
So, if that's the lefts benchmark of a great society, what's the right fighting towards? Money? Power? Control?
Then what?
When is America "great again"?
Because they've been pushing that slogan since the 80s. What's the endgame here?
Because from where I'm sitting, there is no endgame. Nothing will ever make them happy. Nothing will ever be good enough. So what the fuck is the point?
Holy shit. I'm bad at telling if AI is obvious sometimes. Is this real? It has swastikas (obviously) but it also has the american flag.
Is this 1930s? Or 2020s?
God. The fact I even have to ask is in itself a reflection of where we are as a society I guess.
NS Fascism had several ties to the USA, not least Hitler himself admiring and copying tons of ideas. Esp. their Eugenics movement.
So, what I mean is common roots before 1933 and initially strong support after he got to power.
I'd like to back this up with a suitable article but I can't find one rn.
Your's is the typical defense of genocide-enabling Zionists and their allies from feddit.org in defense of Isn'treal: "The Holocaust was different! How dare you compare it to the Armenian genocide, or the Rohingya genocide or what is happening today in Gaza?"
A genocide is a genocide. It already implies mass.
Genocide was coined to mean, and is generally used in law to mean, the destruction of an ethnic group as such (as a group). This is the case whether it is done by killing of all members of the group or other means, such as dispersing the group. In common usage, genocide is often used to mean “systematic mass killing”, whether or not the purpose is the destruction of a group or something else, such as terrorizing the group or killing a population without regard to group membership, more specifically known as democide.
And your the one only seeing things in black and white so hard you're not able to see out of your basement.
Can't have a bigger or more important genocide than yours eh.
The murder was atrocious. You: Nooo all murders means the same thing!!!!
What about the Russians invading Ukraine? What about the youghurs? What do you know about tianmen square?
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Taco Bell Says 'No Más' to AI Drive-Thru Experiment
Taco Bell Says 'No Más' to AI Drive-Thru Experiment
If you think humans get your order wrong, wait until you try AI.AJ Dellinger (Gizmodo)
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And keep your physical threats nonprosecutable
"Listen here you fucking clanker, if you don't get me a real person to take my order I swear I'm going to put my quantum harmonizer in your photonic resonation chamber."
I’m going to put my quantum harmonizer in your photonic resonation chamber
So that's what you kids are calling it these days...
Trump points to Louisiana as global artificial intelligence hub with Meta data center
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President Donald Trump and Gov. Jeff Landry said Meta's massive northeastern Louisiana project in Richland Parish will make the state the hub for artificial intelligence with a data center the size of Manhattan.During a cabinet meeting this week, Trump said Meta, the parent company of Facebook, will expand its initial $10 billion investment to $50 billion.
Trump displayed a piece of paper he said was given to him by Meta Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg that showed the center superimposed over Manhattan, covering most of the New York island.
"When they said '$50 billion for a plant,' I said, 'What the hell kind of a plant is that?'" Trump said. "But when you look at this, you understand why it's $50 billion."
Landry responded to the president on X with the following post:
"It is vital for American ingenuity and national security that we lead in AI development. As President @realDonaldTrump displayed during (the) cabinet meeting, the size of the Meta AI Data Center being built in Richland Parish is nearly the size of Manhattan. Louisiana isn’t just a participant in the AI race, we are leading it!"
Richland Parish Chamber of Commerce founder Scott Franklin said the project is transformation for the region and state.
"The president’s statement is proof that the Richland Parish Data Center will lead the world in AI technology," Franklin told USA Today Network. "This project will completely transform the regional economy and Meta will pay close to a billion dollars in property taxes over the life of the project. These taxes stay right here in Richland Parish. New hospitals, funding for better education and endless opportunity is on the horizon.".
The new url is climate.us/ for those interested. Seems nothing is up yet. This is a 3rd party running it that we're fired when the Republicans took over.
Edit: and an archive of the CNN page archive.ph/DrPoA
Blocking Instances?
There are, I am learning, a few very annoying instances (where only jerks seem to comment, an anomaly around the lemmyverse, as I've seen it so far) and I can't quite work out the filters correctly to actually block the instance and its users completely.
When I go to settings > filters, I can see tabs for domains and instances but don't see how to add them.
Thanks in advance for input, folks.
Okay, I thought I had done that and it still keeps appearing but will try this. Thank you. (Please mark resolved?)
Edit: I did do it that particular way and think it should be a big difference. Thanks again.
Collapse of critical Atlantic current is no longer low-likelihood, study finds
Collapse of critical Atlantic current is no longer low likelihood, study finds
Scientists say ‘shocking’ discovery shows rapid cuts in carbon emissions are needed to avoid catastrophic falloutDamian Carrington (The Guardian)
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A Texas Congressman Is Quietly Helping Elon Musk Pitch a $760M Plan to Build Tunnels Under Houston to Ease Flooding
- Behind-the-Scenes Efforts: Rep. Wesley Hunt has spent months trying to get officials to hire Elon Musk’s The Boring Co. to build a major flood infrastructure project in Houston.
- Size Matters: The Boring Co. has pitched building tunnels that are far smaller than what most studies have indicated the region would need to address its ongoing flooding issues.
- Under Consideration: County officials recently put together a report looking at the possibility of smaller tunnels, though they say they’ve made no final decision on design or contractor.
Elon Musk, Wesley Hunt Quietly Pitch Boring Co. for Houston Tunnel Project
For years, experts in Houston have been studying the idea of building massive tunnels to divert floodwaters and save lives and property. Now Elon Musk’s tunneling company wants a piece of the project.ProPublica
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Judge Fines Pirate IPTV Man €30,000, Owing Sky €500K is Punishment Enough
A pirate IPTV reseller investigated by Sky, who destroyed evidence and dissipated assets in violation of two High Court orders, has been found guilty of contempt of court. David Dunbar of Co Wexford, Ireland, operated 'IPTV is Easy' and according to him, generated nearly €500k in profits while doing so. Since that money is now owed to Sky, a judge at Ireland's High Court imposed a fine of €30,000 rather than a prison sentence, concluding that on balance, he'd suffered enough.
Judge Fines Pirate IPTV Man €30,000, Owing Sky €500K is Punishment Enough * TorrentFreak
An IPTV reseller who destroyed evidence in violation of a High Court order, has been fined €30,000. Owing Sky €500K is punishment enough.Andy Maxwell (TF Publishing)
Factcheck: 16 misleading myths about solar
Solar power is already providing the “cheapest electricity in history” and is expected to play a pivotal role in the global transition away from fossil fuels.
The technology accounted for two-thirds of the world’s new electricity capacity and two-fifths of new generation in 2024, according to the thinktank Ember.
Yet, this rapid expansion has triggered a backlash, with numerous campaigns springing up to oppose new solar projects from the UK to Australia.
These groups frequently draw on misinformation, spread by right-leaning media outlets, anti-renewable energy groups and predominantly right-wing political parties.
Increasingly, these narratives are having real-world consequences, with governments restricting or even banning the installation of solar panels across swathes of land.
Here, Carbon Brief factchecks 16 of the most common myths about solar power.
‘We Are All Shocked’: Warming Waters Bring a Stinging Sea Slug to Spain’s Coasts
The blue dragons, which pack a ferocious sting, have led to several beach closures. Experts say it’s a worrying sign of the warming of the Mediterranean.
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White House fires member of railroad-regulating Surface Transportation Board
The White House said on Thursday it has fired Surface Transportation Board member Robert Primus, as the U.S. rail regulator considers the proposed $85-billion merger of Union Pacific (UNP.N), and Norfolk Southern (NSC.N).
The ouster is the latest in a series of dismissals by President Donald Trump's administration from independent agencies and commissions.
White House spokesman Kush Desai said Primus did not align with Trump's agenda. "The Administration intends to nominate new, more qualified members to the Surface Transportation Board in short order."
Trump has fired the two Democrats on the Federal Trade Commission, the vice chair of the National Transportation Safety Board, and members of the National Labor Relations Board, Merit Systems Protection Board, and Federal Election Commission, among others. He also forced out of office the U.S. postmaster general and the CEO of Amtrak.
Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human
Just like society, the web moves forward when people think, compare, and discover for themselves. Vivaldi believes the act of browsing is an active one. It is about seeking, questioning, and making up your own mind.
Across the industry, artificial assistants are being embedded directly into browsers, and pitched as a quicker path to answers. Google is bringing Gemini into Chrome to summarize pages and, in future, work across tabs and navigate sites on a user’s behalf. Microsoft is promoting Edge as an AI browser, including new modes that scan what is on screen and anticipate actions.
These moves are reshaping the address bar into an assistant prompt, turning the joy of exploring into inactive spectatorship.
This shift has major consequences for the web as we know it. Independent research shows users are less likely to click through to original sources when an AI summary is present, which means fewer visits for publishers, creators, and communities that keep the web vibrant. A recent study by PewResearch found users clicked traditional results roughly half as often when AI summaries appeared. Publishers warn of dramatic traffic losses when AI overviews sit above links.
The stakes are high. New AI-native browsers and agent platforms are arriving, while regulators debate remedies that could reshape how people reach information online. The next phase of the browser wars is not about tab speed, it is about who intermediates knowledge, who benefits from attention, who controls the pathway to information, and who gets to monetize you.
Today, as other browsers race to build AI that controls how you experience the web, we are making a clear promise:
We’re taking a stand, choosing humans over hype, and we will not turn the joy of exploring into inactive spectatorship. Without exploration, the web becomes far less interesting. Our curiosity loses oxygen and the diversity of the web dies.Jon von Tetzchner, CEO, Vivaldi
The field of machine learning in general remains an exciting one and may lead to features that are actually useful.
But right now, there is enough misinformation going around to risk adding more to the pile. We will not use an LLM to add a chatbot, a summarization solution or a suggestion engine to fill up forms for you, until more rigorous ways to do those things are available.
Vivaldi is the haven for people who still want to explore. We will continue building a browser for curious minds, power users, researchers, and anyone who values autonomy. If AI contributes to that goal without stealing intellectual property, compromising privacy or the open web, we will use it. If it turns people into passive consumers, we will not.
We will stay true to our identity, giving users control and enabling people to use the browser in combination with whatever tools they want to use. Our focus is on building a powerful personal and private browser for you to explore the web on your own terms. We will not turn exploration into passive consumption.
We’re fighting for a better web.
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Vivaldi takes a stand: keep browsing human | Vivaldi Browser
Browsing should push you to explore, chase ideas, and make your own decisions. It should light up your brain. Vivaldi is taking a stand. We choose humans over…Jon von Tetzchner (Vivaldi Technologies)
US air force to grant military honors to Capitol rioter fatally shot on January 6
US air force to grant military honors to Capitol rioter fatally shot on January 6
Move to provide Ashli Babbitt with funeral honors marks another step in Trump’s aggressive reframing of the attackJoseph Gedeon (The Guardian)
Washington State cuts off ICE access to data system used for immigration enforcement
The state Department of Licensing revoked Immigration and Customs Enforcement access to a data search system Wednesday after discovering the federal agency used it to get information about a Kirkland man targeted for deportation.
The use of that data for immigration enforcement, confirmed by the state after a KING 5 investigation, violated an agreement between the licensing department and ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations, according to Nate Olson, a DOL spokesperson.
The revelation that state licensing data had been used for immigration enforcement took some lawmakers and immigrant advocates aback. The 2019 Keep Washington Working Act prohibits most state agencies from cooperating with immigration enforcement.
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Alligator Alcatraz’s last days? DHS says it’s following judge’s shutdown order
A week after a federal judge ordered the state and federal governments to begin shutting down their operations at Alligator Alcatraz, workers are being sent packing and detainees are being moved to other facilities. Gov. Ron DeSantis, in a news conference in Orange County on Wednesday, said the Department of Homeland Security had “increased the pace of removals” from the detention facility.
DeSantis distanced the state from the decisions about who is detained at the site, saying “the state does not determine who goes into the facility.” “And so ultimately, it’s DHS’s decision, where they want to process and stage detainees, and it’s their decision about when they want to bring them out,” DeSantis said. “But I think they’ve been having rapid removals from Alligator Alcatraz, and I think that’s caused the census to go down,” he told reporters.
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[FYI: Video lagging on YT] Live at City Hall - AI Surveillance Camera Proposal "Postponed" [LIVE+76mins | AUG 28 2025 | Louis Rossmann]
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About Channel:
I started as a studio repair technician at Avatar & started a Macbook component level logic board repair business. This channel shows repair & data recovery work & shows how to perform these repairs step by step. There are many things that make it hard to fix things now; willful actions from manufacturers to limit access to parts & schematics. I talked about this to try and spark mainstream recognition of the "Right to Repair" movement.
Restrictions placed on repair were just a canary-in the-coal-mine for many of the anti-ownership, anti-consumer practices that would become common in every industry, which I discuss & try to push back against every day.
One long sentence is all it takes to make LLMs to ignore guardrails
One long sentence is all it takes to make LLMs misbehave
Updated: Chatbots ignore their guardrails when your grammar sucks, researchers findGareth Halfacree (The Register)
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It's adorable how EU apparatchiks see themselves as 'world leaders'
World leaders must stop appeasing Donald Trump
Conceding to Trump’s demands only guarantees new threats. It’s time to reject the US and its tech companies.Paris Marx (Disconnect)
Jury awards $2.2m to LA protester shot in face with less-lethal projectile in 2020
“The force of the impact snaps his head backwards causing him to fall backward onto the ground,” plaintiffs wrote in their trial brief. “He is unarmed, is not engaged in any violent or assaultive conduct.”
The complaint said the projectile “traveled up his nasal cavity, where it remained lodged for almost an entire year, until it was surgically removed,” causing Gluck permanent disfiguring injuries, traumatic brain injury and other lasting consequences.
Jury awards $2.2m to LA protester shot in face with less-lethal projectile in 2020
Cellin Gluck alleged in lawsuit that he was subject to excessive force during protest against police brutalityGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
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One long sentence is all it takes to make LLMs to ignore guardrails
One long sentence is all it takes to make LLMs misbehave
Updated: Chatbots ignore their guardrails when your grammar sucks, researchers findGareth Halfacree (The Register)
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'Wednesday Night Massacre at CDC': Chaos Erupts as RFK Jr. Accused of Destroying Agency From Within
That Monarez was no longer the director was announced by the Department of Health and Human Services, led by RFK Jr., via social media on Wednesday afternoon. Hours later, lawyers for Monarez said her removal was a firing, not a resignation, and they accused the director of "weaponizing public health for political gain" after she clashed with Kennedy over new immunization guidelines related to the Covid-19 vaccine.
A letter from Monarez's lawyer said she was targeted because she challenged the new policy that would put "millions of American lives at risk" and represents deeper concerns about the agency's agenda under Kennedy's leadership.
'Wednesday Night Massacre at CDC': Chaos Erupts as RFK Jr. Accused of Destroying Agency From Within
"I am unable to serve in an environment that treats CDC as a tool to generate policies and materials that do not reflect scientific reality and are designed to hurt rather than to improve the public's health," said top CDC official who resigned i…jon-queally (Common Dreams)
A Texas Congressman Is Quietly Helping Elon Musk Pitch a $760M Plan to Build Tunnels Under Houston to Ease Flooding
Since then, local flood experts have extensively studied the possibility of a multibillion-dollar tunnel system across Harris County, where Houston is located. Studies have focused on the construction of pipelines, 30 to 40 feet in diameter, that could ferry massive amounts of water out to the Gulf in the event of a storm.
Now, after years of research and discussion, Elon Musk wants a piece of the project.
An investigation by The Texas Newsroom and the Houston Chronicle has found that the billionaire, in partnership with Houston-area Rep. Wesley Hunt, has spent months aggressively pushing state and local officials to hire Musk’s Boring Co. to build two narrower, 12-foot tunnels around one major watershed. That could be a potentially cheaper, but, at least one expert said, less effective solution to the region’s historic flooding woes.
Elon Musk, Wesley Hunt Quietly Pitch Boring Co. for Houston Tunnel Project
For years, experts in Houston have been studying the idea of building massive tunnels to divert floodwaters and save lives and property. Now Elon Musk’s tunneling company wants a piece of the project.ProPublica
Greenland: US tells Denmark to 'calm down' over alleged influence operation
On a visit to Greenland a few months ago, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen warned the US that "you cannot annex another country".
Denmark's foreign minister said in a statement to the BBC that the government was "aware that foreign actors continue to show an interest in Greenland and its position in the Kingdom of Denmark".
"It is therefore not surprising if we experience outside attempts to influence the future of the Kingdom in the time ahead," he added.
Denmark is a member of Nato and the European Union and has long seen the US as one of its closest allies, and Danes have been shocked by Trump's determination to control its semi-autonomous territory. The US president said this year he would not rule out seizing it by force.
Greenland: US tells Denmark to 'calm down' over alleged influence operation
The aim was reportedly to infiltrate Greenland's society and promote its secession from Denmark.Paul Kirby (BBC News)
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Disable max-height for feed images
Hi!
I have set 'Compact UI' in the settings to 'No - expand images' but in my home feed they are still cut off. Looking at the code I can see the following:
.post_teaser_image_preview a {
max-height: 575px;
overflow: hidden;
} and disabling max-height solves my issue (seeing the whole image in the feed without clicking it).
How do I specify this in the custom CSS section in the settings so that the max-height is always disabled?
I tried
:disable {
.post_teaser_image_preview a {
max-height: 575px;
}
} but it doesn't work.
This snippet worked for me when I just tested it:
.post_teaser_image_preview a {
max-height: unset;
} Basically, any css rules in your custom css overwrite the rules specified elsewhere.
Edit: I just wanted to add why the max-height was set initially. This is the codeberg issue that caused there to be a limit. Basically, without setting a max-height, really tall and skinny images can take up a huge amount of vertical space.
Limiting height of image posts
It would be nice if there was a limit to how tall an image post could be displayed in the main feed (this only applies to non-compact mode).Codeberg.org
I guess I could also set the max-height to something like 1000px to limit extremely long ones.
Breaking up FEP d8c2 (OAuth 2.0 profile for the ActivityPub API)
Hey, all. So, almost two years ago I wrote this FEP:
codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src…
It defines a profile for using OAuth 2.0 with the ActivityPub API, with a few components:
- Using the bog-standard OAuth authorization code flow as described at oauth.com/, including PKCE
- Using the
endpoints,oauthAuthorizationEndpointandoauthTokenEndpointproperties of an actor for discovery of endpoints - Using a small set of scopes (defined in the FEP as 'read', 'write' and 'sameorigin', but with a much longer more detailed list here
- A registrationless client ID mechanism that depends on having an Application ActivityPub object live on the Web.
Of these 4 points, I think the first two are defined pretty well elsewhere. It is probably a good idea to just let those be defined elsewhere. I think the possibility of an OAuth TF for the SocialCG suggests that those options can be worked out there.
That leaves the two novel parts of the FEP: the registration-less client IDs, and the scopes. I think I'd like to slim down the current FEP to just the registration-less client IDs, and start another FEP for the scopes.
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Re: Breaking up FEP d8c2 (OAuth 2.0 profile for the ActivityPub API)
Hey evan@activitypub.space, I am all-in on more, simpler FEPs over monolithic impenetrable FEPs.
I take it that points 1 and 2 are due to concerns raised by thisismissem@hachyderm.io about how OAuth2 properties are already advertised in a standardized manner (I believe per OIDC or similar?) — no objections there.
On the topic of scopes, I know benpate@mastodon.social's 3b86 (Activity Intents) had some ideas on defining intents that have some parallels to scopes. I don't agree with hardcoding them all into the FEP itself, but I'm interested in exploring how we structure scopes so that they're more straightforward as not quite as fine-grained — a single scope for every ActivityStreams activity type might be a bit of overkill.
Earth’s Core is Leaking
In Earth’s primordial days, liquid iron fell through the ball of magma that was our planet, collecting elements–like ruthenium-100–that are attracted to iron. All of that material ended up in Earth’s outer core, a dense sea of liquid metal that geoscientists assumed was unable to cross into the lighter mantle. But recent observations suggest instead that core material is making its way to the surface.
Measurements from volcanic rocks in the Galapagos Islands, Hawai’i, and Canada’s Baffin Island all contain ruthenium isotopes associated with that primordial core material, indicating that that magma came from the core, not the mantle. Separately, seismic analyses suggest that this material could be crossing through continent-sized blobs of warm, large-grained crystals caught deep below Africa and the Pacific, at the boundary between the mantle and the outer core. For more, check out this Quanta Magazine article. (Image credit: B. Andersen; research credit: N. Messling et al. and S. Talavera-Soza et al.; via Quanta)
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Earth’s Core Appears To Be Leaking Up and Out of Earth’s Surface | Quanta Magazine
Strong new evidence suggests that primordial material from the planet’s center is somehow making its way out. Continent-size entities anchored to the core-mantle boundary might be involved.Robin George Andrews (Quanta Magazine)
Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft said the workers, who were protesting the company's links to the Israeli military, broke into the office of a top company executive.Mary Cunningham (CBS News)
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Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft said the workers, who were protesting the company's links to the Israeli military, broke into the office of a top company executive.Mary Cunningham (CBS News)
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Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft said the workers, who were protesting the company's links to the Israeli military, broke into the office of a top company executive.Mary Cunningham (CBS News)
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Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft fires 2 employees after they broke into president's office
Microsoft said the workers, who were protesting the company's links to the Israeli military, broke into the office of a top company executive.Mary Cunningham (CBS News)
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in reply to Peter Link • • •Proves over and over society was not ready for AI chatbots like this. I use it daily, but as someone who fully knows the limitations of what it is and what it can do. I'm mentally sound and can handle whatever garbage it can vomit up, but it helps with my coding. The fact that it was unleashed to everyone going full pandora's box was an insane pure profit driven motive.
Those of us who understand it can completely see it going off the rails. It's just a prediction machine. If you give it horrible stuff like that it's going to predict that it should come up with horrible stuff in response. It's almost impossible to stop it from doing that because the only real way to prevent it is to not train on that stuff before, but when you're dealing with the entire fucking internet that's pretty hard too. (Seriously people, Reddit and 4chan were included in training. How stupid were they with this?)
This was inevitable. Of course people are too trusting in AI and those mentally unwell will not be able to distinguish it. It was designed to be like that. They were wrong to release it openly to society.
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in reply to Scrubbles • • •i had a 8 hour long troubleshooting session yesterday that should have only have taken on hour at most because my new boss was asking copilot for troubleshooting ideas and insisted that i pursue each one instead of listening to me.
then, this morning, he "corrected" the root cause analysis report i created because copilat said that something like this will never happen again. (it will happen again).
i never felt like the smartest person in the room before but; when everyone else is asking AI; being the smartest person becomes a very low bar.
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in reply to eldavi • • •eldavi
in reply to Scrubbles • • •tranes
in reply to Peter Link • • •Randomgal
in reply to tranes • • •You think the problem here is the machine and not the countless compunding miseries the poor guy had to face?
Humans failed this guy. The machine is just a machine.
tranes
in reply to Randomgal • • •ganymede
in reply to Randomgal • • •is the machine the problem? that seems more like a philosophical or semantic debate.
the machine is not fit for the advertised purpose.
to some people that means the machine has a fault.
to others that means the human salesperson is irresponsibly talking bs about their unfinished product
imo an earnest reading of the logs has to acknowledge at least potential evidence of openai's monetisation loop at play in a very murky situation.
Randomgal
in reply to ganymede • • •Absolutely. OpenAI capitalistic actions, chosen by by humans, are absolutely a scourge and those humans bear the blame.
If there is a school shooter. We definitely need to have a discussion and changes around guns and their laws.
But we take the human to trial, not the gun.
m532
in reply to tranes • • •Random person dies. Copyright crusaders: AI! Euros: Putin! Yanks: Communism!
Its USA's fault. Always. They're responsible for 99% of oppression in the world.
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in reply to Peter Link • • •daniskarma
in reply to Peter Link • • •I don't have any evidence. But everything I read about this story I get the vibe that parents are dodging their responsibility. Some of the logs clearly show that the kid have issues with the family.
And the fact that they are willing to blame some software instead of themselves speaks quite loudly.
Suicide in kids usually have two real roots, school or family. Because that's the two places the kid will spend more time with. And probably only run to "other places" if one or both those fundamental places are awful.
It's "videogames are to blame for violence" all over again.
I know too well how parents behave when they don't want to assume their own fucking responsibility for how they raise their kids, and this smells too much like that very same shit.
Peter Link
in reply to daniskarma • • •Clearly, the kid had problems that were not caused by ChatGPT. And his suicidal thoughts were not started by ChatGPT.
But OpenAI acknowledged that the longer the engagement continues the more likely that ChatGPT will go off the rails.
Which is what happened here. At first, ChatGPT was giving the standard correct advice about suicide lines, etc.
Then it started getting darker, where it was telling the kid to not let his mother know how he was feeling.
Then it progressed to actual suicide coaching.
So I don't think the analogy to videogames is correct here.
daniskarma
in reply to Peter Link • • •Take away chatgpt and insert a videogame, movie o bookthat talk about those same topics.
There are books that talk much darker about suicide. If the kid were to read those the parents would sue the author of the book?
There is a whole subgenre of music that is about encouraging people to comit suicide and fall into depression, do we use the "who is going to think about the children" card with thar music and its authors? Because music can really get under you skin and a couple of hours listening to that would nake anyone have weird thoughts.
The shitty parents blame chatgpt because it told the kid how to make a noose. You can kind that info in "howto" with instructable images. Do we put the UK nanny dictatorship controls on "howto" ? Or it only counts of it's something that benefits of the butlerian yihad?
I think is completely irrational to blame a piece of software (or media), as much defective as it is, for a suicide.