is the command locate too old for debian 13 xfce?
locate
is a command I've used in the past, but now, fresh installed with sudo apt get locate
it doesn return anything.
locate --version
returnslocate (GNU findutils) 4.10.0
, from 2024
or, have I forgotten something?
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[Video] Zionists from Spain harass the Gaza flotilla with Israeli genocide glorification music. Claiming they will play it every night to prevent them from sleeping
Additional context from an ex-Israeli who knows the song:
It's not just some random Israeli music he's playing, it's genocidal anthem "Harbu Darbu" by Ness & Stila. This song has played (and continues to play) a significant role in creating the post-October7 hyper-genocidal atmosphere that's been sweeping Israel and enabling a Holocaust
How to make tagging easier?
When I want to tag a post, I often come across the issue of "tagging uncertainty". E.g.
- Did I use singular (KungFuMovie) or plural (KungFuMovies) on other occasions?
- Did I use 'native' (KurosawaAkira) or Western (AkiraKurosawa) name order?
- Have I even used a tag on this topic before, or is it the first time?
In order to check, I:
- scroll up or down until I see the top of the community sidebar info
- middle-click the link there to the community home page (only available on my own community because I placed one there myself) to open in a new tab
- switch from posting window tab to that new tab
- scroll down until I see "All community tags"
- click on that
- look for the tag I'm interested in
- go back to the tab with the posting window
- write the desired tag
E.g. for this very post, I wasn't sure whether to tag it "tag", "tags" or "tagging". I had to click "Communities", search for "help", middle-click on "Piefed Help", switch to that tab and then look at the tag area to see which form has been used previously.
Some ideas that might make tagging easier:
- a "See all community tags" link next to the tags field in the posting window (easy to do?), opens in a new tab or a pop-up
- auto-suggest one or more tags once you start typing one in the tag field (hard to do?), like on Mastodon
- any other ideas, anyone?
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It's kind of a "wisdom of the crowd" thing. The idea that on average, in aggregate, most of the time, it starts to make sense and be useful. But individual posts are often tagged very "wrongly".
Having said that... For space reasons the tag list in the sidebar is limited to 30 tags and I'm sure there is more we could do to improve the utility of it. Maybe a separate page which has a rotatable tag cloud at the top and below that the list of posts dynamically updates based on whatever is the currently selected tag...
Honestly?
At this point, given their very limited range of usefulness (one-community-only, mods can't add, remove or edit tags on posts, clicking #tag won't find #tags or #tagging, the work required to try to avoid such 'tag splitting', Lemmy users can't add them, Lemmy users can't see them), I'm tempted to just stop bothering with tags altogether.
But then I remember "Search this community" doesn't really work...
:::spoiler jackiechan tag vs "Search this community" for jackie
- piefed.social/c/action_movies?… (8 results)
- piefed.social/search?q=jackie&… (1 result)
:::
So if I give up on tagging and community search is broken, what option does that leave for anyone trying to find something in a community? Flairs? Or just plain, old Ctrl+F? (Yes, I've had to resort to this with Piefed, with varying degrees of success.)
(I've already learned to keep an Alex Lemmy page open all the time, so I can do things like search a community.)
So I guess I have to keep tagging if I want Piefed users to be able to ever find anything. And I guess it will still involve me doing all those steps I listed in OP. 🙁 Not exactly a candidate for !piefed_joy@piefed.social
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Judge Blocks Trump’s Firing of Lisa Cook From the Federal Reserve Board
Judge Blocks Trump’s Firing of Lisa Cook From the Federal Reserve Board
A lot of things happened. Here are some of the things. This is TPM’s Morning Memo. Sign up for the email version. In a late-night ruling, U.S.David Kurtz (TPM - Talking Points Memo)
Microsoft mandates a return to office
Microsoft mandates a return to office
Microsoft is requiring its employees to return to the office. Employees near its headquarters will start returning in late February, ahead of other offices.Tom Warren (The Verge)
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UK has delivered over £500m in arms parts to Israel in a joint genocide effort
UK complicit in Israel's genocide
New report shows the UK is firmly embedded in Israel's genocide as it provides arms exports worth over £500 million to terrorise PalestineMaryam Jameela (The Canary)
Jeffrey Epstein press conference: 'We know their names': victims make their own list
Jeffrey Epstein press conference: 'We know their names': victims make their own list
The survivors are compiling a list of Epstein associates, but say they are scared for their own safety.BBC News
U.S. hits alleged Venezuelan drug boat, Trump to send National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore, Yemen strikes back at Israel, 21,000 Palestinian children disabled in Gaza war
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/35651038
Drop Site Daily: September 3, 2025
At least 44 Palestinians, including 33 in Gaza City, have been killed in Israeli attacks since dawn. Israeli forces escalating aerial and artillery strikes across Gaza City. At least 21,000 children have been disabled by Israel’s war on Gaza. Ansarallah launches retaliatory strikes against Israel after assassination of senior civilian officials in Yemen, including its prime minister. U.S. military kills 11 people in strike on alleged Venezuelan drug trafficking boat. China holds a major military parade to mark the 80th anniversary of WWII. Israel drops grenades near the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon. U.S. President Donald Trump says he is sending federal troops to Chicago and Baltimore.
U.S. hits alleged Venezuelan drug boat, Trump to send National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore, Yemen strikes back at Israel, 21,000 Palestinian children disabled in Gaza war
Drop Site Daily: September 3, 2025At least 44 Palestinians, including 33 in Gaza City, have been killed in Israeli attacks since dawn. Israeli forces escalating aerial and artillery strikes across Gaza City. At least 21,000 children have been disabled by Israel’s war on Gaza. Ansarallah launches retaliatory strikes against Israel after assassination of senior civilian officials in Yemen, including its prime minister. U.S. military kills 11 people in strike on alleged Venezuelan drug trafficking boat. China holds a major military parade to mark the 80th anniversary of WWII. Israel drops grenades near the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon. U.S. President Donald Trump says he is sending federal troops to Chicago and Baltimore.
U.S. hits alleged Venezuelan drug boat, Trump to send National Guard to Chicago and Baltimore, Yemen strikes back at Israel, 21,000 Palestinian children disabled in Gaza war
Drop Site Daily: September 3, 2025
At least 44 Palestinians, including 33 in Gaza City, have been killed in Israeli attacks since dawn. Israeli forces escalating aerial and artillery strikes across Gaza City. At least 21,000 children have been disabled by Israel’s war on Gaza. Ansarallah launches retaliatory strikes against Israel after assassination of senior civilian officials in Yemen, including its prime minister. U.S. military kills 11 people in strike on alleged Venezuelan drug trafficking boat. China holds a major military parade to mark the 80th anniversary of WWII. Israel drops grenades near the UN peacekeeping force in Lebanon. U.S. President Donald Trump says he is sending federal troops to Chicago and Baltimore.
Google’s $45 Million Contract With Netanyahu's Office to Spread Israeli Propaganda
Google’s $45 Million Contract With Netanyahu's Office to Spread Israeli Propaganda
Google is in the middle of a six-month, $45 million contract to amplify propaganda with Netanyahu’s office. The contract describes Google as a “key entity” supporting the prime minister’s messaging.Jack Poulson (Drop Site News)
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They publicly recinded their "Don't be Evil" motto years ago. You should know that anyone that does something like that is evil.
Degoogling is a thing for this reason.
Proton Mail Says It’s “Politically Neutral” While Praising Republican Party
The “privacy-first” company surprised its user base when CEO Andy Yen lauded Trump on social media.Nikita Mazurov (The Intercept)
$45 million??? That's a rounding error on a single day of Google's income. I'm not even a little shocked that they have no scruples or integrity whatsoever, but I AM shocked how apparently CHEAP our democracy is.
Hell, it'll probably cost more than that to IMPLEMENT this in any meaningful sense!
Poor man's bitemporal data system in SQLite and Clojure
Poor man's bitemporal data system in SQLite and Clojure
On trying to mash up SQLite with ideas stolen from Accountants, Clojure, Datomic, XTDB, Rama, and Local-first-ers, to satisfy Henderson's Tenth Law. Viz.EvalApply.org
Carney says to expect both an austerity and investment-focused budget, criticizes Trudeau-era spending
Carney says to expect both an austerity and investment-focused budget, criticizes Trudeau-era spending
Prime Minister set expectations for the spending plan, which the government plans to release in OctoberNojoud Al Mallees (The Globe and Mail)
How much of my digital soul am I giving away by using "The Transit App?"
Which libre software licence text file does it have, none?
So, we don't control it. We can't fork it. How are going to stop it abusing us? We don't.
We know who has the power here. It's not us users.
How many times are we going to get rekt by the same old scam?
The transit app does utilize motion sensor data to try to guesstimate your position while you are in subways or other areas with low GPS reception.
Here's the privacy policy: transitapp.com/privacy-policy (Aug 14 2025 archive version). They have the who, what, where, when and why and how your data is used all in the policy. It's quite readable, and on 3rd party data sharing, they list out what they collect and which third parties they give it to.
The app is made by a company based in Montréal, Québec, Canada. Personal information data is stored in Canada and the EU, location data not tied to your personal info is collected and stored in the US. The company has at present committed not to sell collected info to databrokers and advertisers, but they do provide it to researchers and transit agencies.
My privacy model is that if I am to consent to my data being collected, I need to receive a tangible benefit that is directly related to the data given. So location advertising to help myself and other people around me know where the bus is is an amazing benefit all around. So I use that feature.
Transit - Privacy Policy
Let's talk about what does and doesn't happen with your data when you use Transit.transitapp.com
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You are correct and I get that. Where I get frustrated is when companies decide to, after I have agreed to share data for one purpose, but then later that data is sold or used instead for secondary unrelated purposes. The clearer and more upfront a company is with how they treat data, the more I can trust it. Of course because of the history of how many companies about-faced on this, that trust is not permanent.
As an aside, the current funding model for the company behind the app is subscriptions from users, and subsidies from transit agencies and local governments, such as Calgary Transit.
lmao, privacy policy never works, libre software does.
I am not sure how the Google settlement connects to your claim that privacy policies never work. Google is an ad company, so that is their priority over everything else.
I also said "at present", and included the archive version, as I'm aware that if Transit sells out in one way or another their policy and app can change for the worse. But let's be realistic about what it is right now, this is about the best you can expect from non-libre and closed-source.
A privacy policy never gives us control over an app. This app fails to have a libre software licence now, we do not control it.
When they get our data, nothing will bring that copy back. So, who's waiting?
Let's be realistic. We've lived our whole lives without their filth. We can reject it today.
atleast where I live transit has all the metro and bus lines, and real-tike tracking of when the next bus/metro is, while osmand just has the metro and like 3 bus lines, so it's kinda useless for transit.
Osmand ia great for biking though.
I don’t know anything about that app aside from what it does, which is what wayze does and wayze was an Israeli spying cutout.
Just use a map and get on a stop or loop ahead of your appointment. I’m finding it hard to imagine a serious use for that app but it’s possible I just don’t understand.
German car industry sheds 51,500 jobs in a year
German car industry sheds 51,500 jobs in a year
The dip equates to almost 7% of the total workforce in the German auto sector. Faltering exports to China and the US play a role, as new tariffs raise barriers to entry in both these core markets.Mark Hallam (Deutsche Welle)
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Putin’s Energy Wins in China Deal a Blow to Trump’s Export Push
Putin’s Energy Wins in China Deal a Blow to Trump’s Export Push
On his first day in office, President Donald Trump vowed he would establish US energy dominance over the globe. Seven months on, that goal is under threat as the world’s largest importer flexes its economic and geopolitical muscle.Bloomberg
I am going to Gaza with the flotilla.
Hi everyone.
I'm a member of the flotilla and preparing to leave for Gaza soon hopefully. A lot hanging on logistics and other things still but I will know more the coming days.
Had to start a new channel old one did not work properly youtube.com/@andersjohansson-o…
action_for_palestine@tankie.tube will only post post sailing here.
anders_gsf@tankie.tube for the trip
Sorry for the changes had to switch up on the phones a bit.
We will set sail in September. I hope to be be able to update a bit on these channels and setting up new accounts for this purpose.
Any tips, shares and discussions are welcomed and I hope to be be able to update on the journey a bit here.
Official updates will be made from official accounts but this will be my personal experience and as a backup for when other communications no longer are available.
Palestine will be free!
Official channels:
globalsumudflotilla.org/
X -
@gbsumudflotilla in
stagram -
globalsumudflotilla
Telegram -
@globalsumudflotilla
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tiktok.com/@globalsumudflotill…
I am currently as reserv and helping out , not sure if I will be able to sail. I hope so but a lot of things to happen before a decision there.
Barcelona just had a press conference announcing departure
Got instagram @andersjohanssongsf
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Official channels: https://globalsumudflotilla.org/ X - @gbsumudflotilla in stagram - globalsumudflotilla Telegram - @globalsumudflotilla https://www.youtube.com/@globalsumudflotilla https://www.tiktok.com/@globalsumudflotillaYouTube
Hi , so I still can't update much more but to say we have been delayed. A lot of work do to here and amazing people to meet . Huge support from the locals here in Italy. The dockworkers union will stop all Isreal transports if any interference with the flotilla. As well as other actions from university groups and others.
When I applied for this my thoughts was that the likely outcome would be interception . Now I'm getting more and more hopeful that we will actually be able to go all the way to Gaza.
Americans be like
from my (admittedly limited) knowledge of european politics, and my experience with canadian and quebec politics, i can tell you with confidence that this is very much not a problem exclusive to the USA; it’s endemic to the whole global north
DNS app asking for my location. How bad is that?
Quad9 Connect | F-Droid - Free and Open Source Android App Repository
Android application for Quad9 recursive DNS cybersecurity and privacy servicesf-droid.org
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1000 downloads, no reviews, and just someone’s name
Regarding privacy, security, and anonymity, your own common sense will take you a long way.
Well, for one, I'm not giving OP the piss for downloading the app. We all get suckered at one time or another. However, as I highlited, 1000 downloads, no reviews, and just someone’s name, is cause to pause and do some diligent searches regarding the app. If it were legit, most likely you'll find someone who has used the app and voiced their opinion. For instance, when I go to github, the first thing I want to see is when was the last activity, how many stars, how mature is the project, read the issue tracking section, etc. After a while you get a spidey sense about stuff.
Be cautious and verify.
Italian Dockworkers Threaten to ‘Shut Down All of Europe’ If Gaza Aid Flotilla Is Blocked | Novara Media
Italian Dockworkers Threaten to ‘Shut Down All of Europe’ If Gaza Aid Flotilla Is Blocked
A union representing dockworkers at one of the largest ports in the Mediterranean - a key stopping point for Israeli goods - has said it will ‘block everything’ if Israel stops the inbound aid flotilla. Polly Smythe reports.Novara Media
Israel has now destroyed 95% of most educational infrastructure in Gaza
Israel has now destroyed 95% of educational infrastructure in Gaza
Israel has directly hit 662 schools in Gaza, in what has been a blatant attempt to destroy the Strip's entire education systemAlaa Shamali (The Canary)
US attacks blow back, uniting China, India, Russia, Iran; encouraging dedollarization | Ben Norton
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Gaza Genocide Provokes Anti-War Dissent Among Mormons
Gaza Genocide Provokes Anti-War Dissent Among Mormons - Inkstick
Campaigners are targeting the hearts, minds and multibillion-dollar investment fund of the Utah-based faith.Taylor Barnes (Inkstick Media)
As a former Mormon I find this mildly interesting, but I don't have much hope that large numbers of LDS people will begin to protest against the genocide. The pro-Israel thing is deeply embedded... as in, I'm pretty sure there are an awful lot of LDS people who will see the sacrifice of a million or two Palestinians, even if totally innocent, as a reasonable price to pay for God's Chosen People getting the Land Of The Covenant to usher in the Second Coming.
Even deeper than that: Mormons are mostly herd animals. Dissent has been trained out of them (unless the dissent is authorized by the First Presidency).
Alternatives to GrapheneOS
Wanted to get a new phone since my S20 is starting to show its age. And with all the enshitification of Android lately I thought it'd be good to try a different phone OS.
However, I don't really want to buy a Google Pixel so GrapheneOS is a no go. I was really interested in the Fold 7 but it seems that will not be possible to get without Android. Thought DivestOS was good but it looks like support ended in 2024.
What other phone OS are people using?
FLX1 - FuriPhone FLX1 Linux Phone
Fast, performant and cheap. You wanted all 3? Now you got it! The FLX1 from Furi Labs runs a fully optimized system called Furi OS, packing a lightning fast user interface, tons of storage, and a …Furi Labs: Planned Permanence
/e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data
ECOSYSTEMKEY FEATURESGET /E/OSNEED HELP /e/OS is a complete, fully “deGoogled”, mobile ecosystem /e/OS is an open-source mobile operating system paired with carefully selected applications.e.foundation
No one else knows about iode os?
iodéOS - iodé
Privacy-friendly selection of apps We have preinstalled for you a selection of privacy-friendly apps, listed below.iodé
I sorely miss DivestOS for this purpose, but I'd consider CalyxOS (development sadly on pause) ~~and iodeOS~~ as runners-up. /e/OS got caught sending voice-to-text data to OpenAI, so I'd stay away for the time being.
edit: sad to see that iode has a freemium model on some of its features. see replies for more nuance on the /e/OS situation.
LineageOS will get the most years of support out of the most devices. While leagues ahead of Android for privacy, bear in mind that it still isn't airtight with regard to the occasional piece of telemetry data sent back to Google. It's about the only thing that can keep one of my older Pixels somewhat up-to-date.
LeOS is like LineageOS with all Google telemetry stripped out, but only in GSI form (no builds optimized for specific devices), so YMMV with hardware compatibility. I have this on my Samsung tablet.
I've also heard about Volla Phones (with VollaOS) and Brax Phones (with iodeOS or Ubuntu Touch), but haven't taken a serious look since the screen sizes offered are too big for me.
I might try out a Linux phone next, but the relative lack of battery optimizations and edge-case issues leave me a bit hesitant. Also, check out detailed comparison of the common Android ROMs with regard to privacy and security: eylenburg.github.io/android_co…
/e/OS got caught sending voice-to-text data to OpenAI
To clarify it's an optional STT service, not on by default if one is not using Murena services, which before sending data proxy it so it's not associated with a specific user account, for anonymization. It even says so in the screenshot
of the links post, for premium Murena service users. FUD from lemmy.ml/post/35472063?scrollT… seems to already be working out, sadly.
Details doc.e.foundation/murena-voice-… including "This feature is exclusively available to Murena Workspace Premium users."
/e/ OS does a little trolling and sends all your Text to Voice data to OpenAI for processing and Speech generation.
First of all, to anyone downvoting my Comments about /e/ being a piece of shit, because...
- they advertise themselves as degoogled, but instead let you connect to Google/Microsoft/etc services
- replace all the propriatery not at all Secure Services from Google, with.... Drumroll please.... Propriatery and not at all Secure Services from themselves and actively encourage it.
- They are For-profit
- and being MORE out of date then even Fairphones stock roms.
... I told you so. Dm your Instance admin, pay them to send the DB entries of your Downvotes on a Thumb drive (or anything else from SSD to 3.5 inchHDD, depending on your preferences), and shove it up your rectum.
But a TL;DR:
/E/ is not Private. They just switch one bad comany to another one.
Voice to Text feature using Open AI
reality — an open, secure, de-Googled system is not open, not secure, and not a de-Googled system!? This is just a new anøm disguised as open source./e/OS community
I'm not sure I understand the question. Why would it send data to anyone if the feature is not enabled? Are people implying a commercial partnership with a third party rather than using their API?
Anyway the point is still that it's not OK to spread incorrect information, even if people don't like /e/OS or Murena.
They didn't "get caught" when it's literally written down that they do it and it's optional, namely nobody does it except by explicitly asking for it. I know I don't. I don't even have that option like most people who use /e/OS and are not Premium Murena customers paying specifically for that service.
No, why do you suggest that? If one were to say something incorrect about Google or Meta, even though not only I do not work for them but even spend quite a bit of resource to get away from them, I would still say it aloud.
Here I said, multiple times, that the post that sparked this is not correct... because it simply is not true. Nothing more, nothing less.
Everybody has different reason but what Murena does is sell phones with /e/OS pre-installed, so if one is specifically looking for a deGoogled phone because they don't have one that already supports LineageOS and/or do not know how to install LineageOS then it's very convenient. It's like going to an Apple store and leaving with a phone, not downloading a ROM then installing it on a device one already has. I'm again not saying one is better or worst than the other, solely that if one is looking for a deGoogled device and they don't have one already, it's an easier path.
PS: note also that I didn't compare /e/OS itself to LineageOS, I'm highlighting precisely how there is some value for some people.
Looks like they're hosting nextcloud as 'ecloud' which is just nextcloud and office add-ons hosted by the e/os people. So instead of letting google host your data, you're trusting it to this murena company who probably has much less security. they are exposing nextcloud to the net which is a terrible idea as there are many many CVEs feedly.com/cve/vendors/nextclo…
I like nextcloud and it is good but I would never expose it to the internet like this.
I'd rather google have my info than some random skiddie that compromises murenas services.
There's just so many reasons not to use this android. Just 'degoogling' without any more thought behind it is one of the saddest things in the 'privacy' community. Yes, google is bad. But they're probably not going to be compromised by some low effort skid.
Nextcloud | CVEs | Feedly
Track the latest Nextcloud vulnerabilities and their associated exploits, patches, CVSS and EPSS scores, proof of concept, links to malware, threat actors, and MITRE ATT&CK TTP informationfeedly.com
Feel like I keep on repeating myself here but... here is no "they" or "/e/OS people" if you do not explicitly ask for it! Nobody has to use Murena servers for 'ecloud' or whatever services, secure or not, they are proposing.
They might use the shittiest backend and it can be absolutely unsecure... but as long as you are not using it, who cares?
There is no point in comparing the services they provide to either Google or self-hosted, just do not use them. It's really not that hard. It's in fact literally easier than making an account and use them.
So... yes you can come up with problems and limitations if you want to, but the point is, again :
- one can buy a phone from Murena running /e/OS and, in fact by default, NOT use any of their services.
The whole point is that by using /e/OS one is not using Google and has a functional phone from the start. That's it.
as there are many many CVEs
Did you even read your own link? Four server CVEs this year is close to nothing. Windows and Linux patch like 40 a month. Also none of those vulnerabilities would provide unauthenticated access to any data. Pretty much 99% of all published CVEs only work if you already have some access or privileges on the system.
Get your Pixel secondhand. That way you are not contributing to their profit margins and have more flexibility on the Pixel version you want without having to break the bank.
And I also agree with the comment that Pixels are not the most robust phones. They are good, but not the most robust thing you could own. Power but to issue across Pixel devices is a real thing. I had two of the power buttons on separate phones fall out. Good thing is that you can get them online cheaply and manually replace them yourself.
BUT Pixels are gorgeous phones and a real delight to use as well. Lovely screens, decent battery, good camera and is buttery smooth with Graphene.
I am on these Pixels because if Graphene.
The hardware shortcomings I can live with and work around. I mostly have great experiences with Pixels with the occasional hardware issue to slove.
I use the on-screen Accessibility Menu shortcut to adjust audio volume, screen brightness and un/locking the phone.
Nothing against the Pixel per se but I wanted to keep my options open. I wanted a big upgrade from my current phone to justify buying a new one and I read a lot of Manga and webtoons. Hence, why I was looking at the Fold 7.
However, I will keep an open mind about phones. The Pixel 9 doesn't look too bad tbh.
If you want a new phone consider /e/OS as you can directly buy a phone from Murena (who maintains /e/OS) and thus get something working from day 1, no tinkering.
To clarify, because there is constant FUD around /e/OS (I think the deGoogled Android crowd is VERY passionate and invests a lot of effort into picking the "right" ROM for them leading to a kind of "holy war" which tends to lose focus on what actually matters, namely leave Google!) so to clarify
- /e/OS is not Murena
- Murena is the French company that sells phones, including refurbished, running /e/OS
- /e/OS is open source gitlab.e.foundation/e/os/
- services from Murena are optional, including STT (which is a premium service) and anything cloud based requires Murena accounts
- one can buy a phone from Murena and not using any of their service, it's as straightforward as NOT creating an account when booting the phone the first time, or not using an account, that's it.
Honestly I recommend this solution if you want a good compromise because IMHO
- Linux phones, e.g. PinePhones (I have 2, cf post history for details) aren't daily drivers yet for most
- it works, simple as that
- it's quite affordable, you don't need a flagship to run /e/OS
- it is actually deGoogled Android, which is IMHO the whole point
- depending on your bank you might be able to use their banking app
Feel free to ask questions, happy to clarify.
Thanks for the detailed information. The Fairphone 6 is a strong contender to be sure and if I'm able to buy one with the OS installed all the better! Only problem is I'm in the US so I don't know how much more expensive it will be for me to buy.
And after doing a quick search of /e/OS it looks like an iOS clone, which I am not super fond of. Have you used it before?
Also, it seems my bank isn't supported. So that's another bummer
You're welcome, briefly :
- yeah... I'm not going to guess with tariff what's going on, they might not even ship anymore
- I have been using it for half a year now and I like /e/OS , it's literally just Android without Google, that's it. If you find Android customizable enough to have the look&feel you need then you'll probably be OK
- if you use mobile banking daily, it might even be enough to look for another solution. Be cautious though that if it's not working there, then most likely it won't work on other deGoogled solutions. Might have to consider changing banks. Before going through all that trouble though I'd try 1 week without the bank app and see how feasible that is. Maybe it's a big deal, maybe it's actually not that bad.
Thanks for clarifying. I guess I'll look more into /e/OS to see what it's really like.
My parents are going to France in October so if I decide on the Fairphone I may just ask them to pick it up for me. Not sure how that'd work though so I'll look more into it.
As for the banking, I use it about once a week or every other week to deposit checks. I will definitely still need that though since it's hard for me to physically go to the bank due to my limited mobility. Might be best to keep my old phone just for that purpose
If they come to France still check that the US SIM would work there, or that eSIM is supported. Theoretically it's compatible but US carriers can be ... finicky.
For banking if depositing check can be done simply via the Web, then the app is not needed. Might have to ask your bank. Keeping the old phone would work indeed but not the most convenient.
GrapheneOS is the only one cellebrite admits it has trouble with, I can't recommend another OS, but I can say that being resistant to the government hacking your phone has recently become more important and it might be worth reconsidering.
Best deGoogle option imo
/e/ is not private at all
They have a lot of telemetry already installed, their voice to text is sent directly to OpenAI, and their Cloud is not encrypted (and presumably in the US), so anyone can view all your data without a subpoena when (not if) their services get compromised
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
No, it is not.
They forked LinaegeOS, which is 0 security oriented, stripped it of all its private services (like Seedvault) and now want the user to pay a subscription for their non encrypted backup servers and a shitty DNS blocker
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Israeli official arrested in Las Vegas sex sting appears before judge via Zoom after fleeing U.S.
Israeli official barred from social media, minors after court hearing on child sex charge
Israeli government official Tom Alexandrovich appeared before a Henderson Court judge this morning via Zoom to discuss the conditions of his bail.Jane Davenport (KSNV)
It's easier to stick to adwaita default and try to uniform others to it (that's because libadwaita apps are not themable).
wiki.archlinux.org/title/Unifo…
github.com/lassekongo83/adw-gt…
itsfoss.com/flatpak-app-apply-…
And install kvantum for flatpak too.
Apply GTK System Themes on Flatpak Apps in Linux
Flatpak applications don't play along well with system themes because of their sandbox nature. With a little effort, you can make them work with system themes.Sreenath (It's FOSS)
thanks a lot for the pointers, it's so nice to see that people try to help
but it is just exhausting trying to unify everything
and the next flatpak is a new fight 😀
but it is just exhausting trying to unify everything
I feel you... I hope in the future they'll work together to unify this mess.
wayland: Update to xdg-decoration protocol (!6398) · Merge requests · GNOME / gtk · GitLab
Updated version of !6161 andGitLab
What problem does CSD solve? I'd think "some apps look and work differently" is a pretty bad tradeoff for "I want to cram custom stuff in the title bar which was more or less universally treated as owned-by-the-system for the first 35 years of GUIs at least?"
GTK/GNOME seem to be making themselves actively hostile towards customization, which seems a great way to lose enthusiasts.
I find KDE works well with GTK3 and below, but GTK4 apps are set to ignore themes, which is a design decision on the GTK4 side. They invariably look completely odd and out of place as they often force the entire Gnome app UI as well as an unalterable theme.
And then Flatpaks also don't generally follow system themes as they're so sandboxed (although there are some work arounds, including making them consistent as flatpaks or allowing them access to the system theme folders to pick up themeing).
But anecdotally I've not had the level of title bar variability on KDE as that screenshot. Although admittedly I do tend to actively avoid Gnome apps as I don't like the design philosophy.
A little?
You can theme Gtk apps to match, but it's not pixel perfect even with the stock theme.
Its always slightly off on padding and margins, but the overall outcome looks more uniform
This is the kind of shit that stops people from migrating to Linux.
Lack of consistency in the UI. We’re in 2025 dammit. Not 1995.
Edit: okay, WTF Windows is now even worse?!?
This below is windows 11 consistency, within their own os context menus. I am not even starting on the fact that window decorations there too are a non standardised mess.
I agree that lack of UI consistency is less than ideal, and very real in Linux, but let's not pretend that this is a main issue stopping people from migrating (from an equally inconsistent OS)
How is a kernel meant to enforce anything about UI?
I think GUI development should favour server-side decorations for consistency's sake, but this is more of a cultural thing with what application developers are choosing to do, rather than anything "Linux" can do about.
Edit: okay, WTF Windows is now even worse?!?
Always has been. At least since NT. Company culture encourages features and discourages fixes. Thus it got framework after framework.
And yes, Windows is the absolute worst at this.
i found the original in reddit, from about four years ago
reddit.com/r/kde/comments/tffr…
(i'm not saying it's related, but at least people should be able to read the text now)
KDE: Developers trying to Design a desktop.
Looks much better to me nowadays, although yes, I am not using the default Breeze theme. But if there are any problems in the theme I am using, they are much more likely to not be present in Breeze.
Some "issues" pointed out in the picture are not issues at all.
The "Different font styles and sizes" for example, because they are used for different things with different scopes and user interaction.
Some points are valid, but this looks more like the author (of the image) wanted to highlight as much as possible to confirm their own bias (that it's not well designed). Maybe I'm being ragebaited, but here we go:
Different font size and styles for main panel header
Yeah, one shows breadcrumbs and the other a title.
First icon is narrower than the rest
First one is the "start menu" button. The tasks could also have text labels on them, of course they can have a different width to an unrelated element.
Content not even remotely close to being vertically centred in its box.
It can show two lines of text (as evidenced by the third item in the same row). It would look pretty bad if every item was centered on their own.
This is absolutely pixel perfect alignment. More like this please!
It looks good, but the red line the author connected from the snowflake to the horizontal line of the "H" doesn't necessarily back their claim that this is "absolutely pixel perfect alignment" because the horizontal line of the "H" might not be geometrically centered to the line height of the text and you could also have different characters in different languages.
Yeah, some elements like the scrollbars aren't positioned well (in this screenshot, this is a bit outdated tbh). But there's also the concept of a visual center as opposed to the geometric center.
I have a theory that if everything was pixel perfect, centered, perfectly aligned and looked the same, the thing would look too sterile. There's basically a perfect world, written down in books and texts that is being taught to students and there's the real world. In many areas, these two do not match and the above image is the result of someone's text book world view not matching the real world.
Could the discover store have a better UI? Yes. Will a centered, down-anchored, pixel perfect button make it better? Subjective.
Honestly I just want KDE to do the backbone and GNOME to do the designs.
Adwaita apps look just right, minimalistic yet powerful, pinnacle of modern simplified designs. Everything you actually need is close, and the rest doesn't clog the view.
The rest of GNOME is heavily meh. Customization is next to nothing, and generally any workflow falling outside the one window = one task paradigm is gonna be a pain. Settings are convoluted and sometimes straight up unreachable without additional tools or config edits (and sometimes they don't even apply).
I guess what unites Adwaita and GNOME project overall is the stubborn adversity to users making it comfy for themselves - it's the GNOME way, or no way. And while Adwaita is at least actually good in its defaults, GNOME is not.
KDE, on the other hand, is brilliant as a desktop environment, but menus could be so, so much better. So, when I have a choice, I use Adwaita-themed apps on KDE. With proper theming on KDE side of things, they come together just right.
Agreed completely.
KDE just feels better and more performant. Even if GNOME Shell uses less memory in its own, it doesnt always feel good to use.
However GNOME Shell and Adwaita are beautiful, consistent, and designed through human feedback. KDE is fragmented, too nested, and has so many conflicting designs.
Its not possible to make KDE feel exactly like GNOME Shell but I wish I could.
I can live with that.
I'm very glad to see projects like libadapta as themable alternatives to the libadwaita dogma. I've painstakingly themed my desktop to look and feel like a cohesive, modernized NT 4 workstation and should seriously consider contributing to libadapta in anticipation of libadwaita coming to more and more programs.
I am very stubborn about my computer's GUI, but also hopeful the community can bring back theming where GNOME is dead set against it. If they can make WindowBlinds for modern Windows, the equivalent in Linux is definitely achievable.
GitHub - xapp-project/libadapta: libAdwaita + theme support + a few extra
libAdwaita + theme support + a few extra. Contribute to xapp-project/libadapta development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
A bit off-topic, but I really appreciate projects that respect their upstreams, and attempt to improve in their own ways (from libadapta's README):
LibAdwaita has the right to be what it wants to be and to not support what it doesn't want to support.
Throw a JetBrains app in there for a complete monstrosity 🤣
As a Gnome'r I tend to lean towards apps that I can make look like they belong, but I put up with JetBrains because there tools work really well for my needs
I created a Window Rule and so far it seems to be working. This was a test but I've done it before through the Window-Specific Overrides in Windows Decorations-Edit Breeze Theme
I use the keyboard very often and have a shortcut for that. It works for my use case, I always have windows maximized and tile them when i need it using the default keyboard shortcuts
MATE is to GNOME as Ash's Pickachu is to Raichu.
I'm not sure I have a point, but the analogy rings true I think.
Thirsty for power and water, AI-crunching data centers sprout across the West
Thirsty for power and water, AI-crunching data centers sprout across the West
With promises of jobs and hopes for tax breaks, server farms are reshaping local grids, plumbing, and politics. Are they a boon for communities, or a burden?& the West
‘The Voice of Hind Rajab’ Stuns Venice With Its Longest Standing Ovation of 22 Minutes Amid Tears and ‘Free Palestine’ Chants
“The Voice of Hind Rajab” premiere at the Venice Film Festival proved to be a hugely emotional event, with very few dry eyes in the Sala Grande.
One of the most talked-about films going into the festival, the powerful and gut-wrenching drama — from Tunisian director Kaouther Ben Hania — tells the true story of 5-year-old Palestinian girl Hind Rajab, who was killed in the early stages of the war in Gaza. The feature received a huge 22-minute standing ovation, the longest of the festival so far. As the ovation surpassed 20 minutes, and in a clear effort to get the room to disperse, the lights were dimmed in the theatre. The clapping continued.
Attendees in the crowd were holding up several Palestinian flags, and chants of “Free Palestine” rang out during the applause. Joaquin Phoenix and Rooney Mara, who are executive producers of the film, were in attendance and held a photo of Rajab on the red carpet with the filmmaking team. Phoenix also wore a Artists for Ceasefire pin.
Voice of Hind Rajab Venice Premiere Gets 22 Minute Standing Ovation
'The Voice of Hind Rajab,' one of the most powerful and political films in the Venice lineup, had a 22-minute, emotional standing ovation.Alex Ritman (Variety)
I've seen enough images of dead children in the last 23 months to last me ten thousand lifetimes.
Israel is a curse on humanity.
Microsoft mandates a return to office
Microsoft mandates a return to office
Microsoft is requiring its employees to return to the office. Employees near its headquarters will start returning in late February, ahead of other offices.Tom Warren (The Verge)
Yep. This is NATO bombs and NATO planes, Provided through the NATO logistics by NATO countries.
Israel does not produce their weapons in house. They design weapons for NATO and then test them on Palestinians.
This genocide is committed by NATO.
Are private email providers worth it?
I think I know the answer, bit maybe I'm missing something
Since proton only sends and receives encrypted emails to other proton accounts, that means that when you get or send an email to someone else, they have to send / receive unencrypted and there is no way for us to verify what they are doing. Right?
Also if most accounts are google Microsoft, they still get 90% of my emails. By switching to proton I think I've gained nothing, while losing convenience , added another trust point, and having two different companies have my data instead of just one
Proton drive, calendar and VPN I think are fine
Sorry for the poor syntax. I'm at work working on email related things, and this topic kept distracting me. I might correct it later
Proton does offer what is essentially a self-contained PGP portal. You send anyone an email and they get a "hey, this is me, open the message below" thing and then a link to a message that's hosted on Proton servers. So your Granny doesn't need to set up a public/private key pair, you can just send the encrypted portal option.
No idea of Tuta or others do this.
Plus, no matter who you chose, you personally aren't feeding the Google algo. You can do what I do, which is you leave all the hyper data hungry services in the data eating world, just feeding on each other alone. Then you have real conversations over email or fediverse.
Yeah. I chose proton over tuta because of this option to send the link to the encrypted message. I think tuta does have it, but it didn't show the entire conversation. If you wanted to see the entire chain I think you and to either find the mates email to get the latest URL, or open each URL by itself.
The problem with those is that you have to exchange the password by some other means than the email itself, so it's really not practical for the other person
- One of the main uses of email is communication with companies. And they won't have a signal account just to exchange passwords with you
- doesn't work for emailing someone you have no say you want to send an email to... Idk a youtuber (first example I could think of where you know you want to talk to them but you have no other means to do so). They have their email published. Now what? You can't email them asking for their phone number so that you can exchange email passwords because they won't give it to you, and that exchange is happening unencrypted
- if I have a way to contact someone over signal, I'd rather use that than email
One of the main uses of email is communication with companies. And they won’t have a signal account just to exchange passwords with you
No. Email is just a non-centralized protocol. While not everyone uses it the same way, most normal people never use email to communicate with companies, who are increasingly forcing people to use chatbots anyway. So it's not even a reasonable point to make. Password protected emails are meant to be between people who have an established relationship. If a company needs someone to send them encrypted message, they'll have a platform for that, just like Wikileaks or ProPublica, so you're not making a valid argument about that.
If some Youtuber is someone that does anything privacy-related enough that they should be receiving encrypted emails, their public PGP key should be on their YT profile and you can send them an encrypted message anyway with that. Protocols and methods exist already to accomplish what you're talking about. You need to complain to the Youtuber for not practicing good security and privacy, not to Proton for not creating some mind-reading Diffie-Hellman scenario. Really, do you think that you can just send some random person a message that says "click link to open secret message!" and not expect it to just look like phishing?
If you'd rather use signal, use signal and send them an attachment encrypted with their PGP public key. This isn't hard, I don't even know why you're trying to argue all these weird non-existent edge cases like they're everyday issues.
i don't know your case, but for me using email is non optional. i can't "just use signal". i need an email for my government, i need an email because i need a github account, i need an email for any site i want to use, including lemmy. i just want to be able to do it privately. i'm just trying to determine if protonmail is actually private or just one big "trust me bro. we wont read you unencrypted messages as they enter or leave"
OK. Well, respectfully, I think it would be beneficial to find out more about how encryption, email servers, and encrypted messaging works. I think you're quite confused about the details here, and just getting a sense of the parts will help you in the long run. People use email differently - I don't use FB, so my main means of communication with family that is not Signal messages is email.
By "just use signal" I mean for sharing a password for a password protected email. Which you should only be sending to people you know already and can coordinate with. You're not sending password protected emails to random people or the government because it's not necessary for the reasons I explained earlier. If someone needs an encrypted message from ANYONE they will provide the method. Otherwise, they don't want encrypted messages and can't be trusted with data that should be encrypted.
Proton is secure, and I know because I had an old account I wanted to get access to and lost access to the recovery email, but had one on the same domain. I spent about a week doing back and forth emails with some guy who was trying to ask me to verify aspects of the account, which was my spam shield and dummy social media account and I hadn't used it for about a year. All he could see, when pressed, was header info: sender/receiver, date, time, ip address, sending agent. All things that are needed to route the message. It ended up being me able to confirm IP address and sending agent and access (I sent an email to my recovery address from an IP in this range on this date, last logged in on on this date, etc.). It was a pain for both of us.
I use Tuta mail and protonmail.
There is no "unencrypted" transfer between sender and receiver if you both use tuta or proton.
If you send an email to me from a Gmail account, it is unencrypted until it reaches the Tuta servers and the Proton severs, once there it is encrypted and remains so until I login to my account to access the email.
TUTA MAIL:
The entire mailbox – emails, calendar and address book – are stored end-to-end encrypted in Tuta.
Data that Tuta encrypts end-to-end:
Emails, including subject lines and all attachments
Entire calendars, even metadata such as event notifications
Entire address book, not just parts of the contacts
Inbox rules / filters
And the entire search index.
Tuta uses symmetric (AES 256) and asymmetric encryption (RSA 2048 or ECC (x25519) and Kyber-1024 as quantum-safe algorithms) to encrypt emails end-to-end. When both parties use Tuta, all emails are automatically end-to-end encrypted (asymmetric encryption).
PROTONMAIL:
Emails from non-Proton Mail users to Proton Mail users
The email is encrypted in transit using TLS. It is then unencrypted and re-encrypted (by us) for storage on our servers using zero-access encryption. Once zero-access encryption has been applied, no-one except you can access emails stored on our servers (including us). It is not end-to-end encrypted, however, and might be accessible to the sender’s email service.
All messages in your Proton Mail mailbox are stored with zero-access encryption. This means we cannot read any of your messages or hand them over to third parties. This includes messages sent to you by non-Proton Mail users, although keep in mind if an email is sent to you from Gmail, Gmail likely retains a copy of that message as well.
Password-protected Emails are also stored end-to-end encrypted.
Subject lines and recipient/sender email addresses are encrypted but not end-to-end encrypted.
Note that ProtonMail actually supports automatic encryption to email accounts that publish their public keys in a Web Key Directory, which I’ve set up for mine. When you type such an email address in the To field, it’ll turn into a special color with a lock symbol.
Likewise, ProtonMail also exposed a WKD so people can send encrypted emails to ProtonMail accounts. I don’t know of any mail clients that support this though (I used the command line to pull keys)
Wow, til I learn about WKD! I used to have a key on keyservers, but hated how that was basically a spam trap and the fact that anyone could upload a key there for my own address. It was easy because I own my own domain and already have a web server there.
I set it up and tested it with help from webkeydirectory.com/
Looks like it's being added to clients: wiki.gnupg.org/WKD/Distributio…
Web Key Directory Validator
Publish Your Public OpenPGP Key with Confidence.Web Key Directory Validator
They'll have to follow a link but still...
Tuta: Turn ON privacy for free with secure emails, calendars & contacts | Tuta
Tuta guarantees your data stays private for free & without ads. Quantum-resistant encryption makes Tuta the best secure technology solution to protect your privacy.Tuta
There is an advantage of using a provider that suports MTA STS. This is Strict Transport Security and forces at least transport encryption.
There is an advantage to use a provider you pay for too and at least claims not to read your email.
It is also nice if they can host your domain and have good delivery.
Edit: I meant MTA STS not SMTP STS.
Google is promoting MTA-STS. MS is at least testing it and some others. Proton mail might support, check. I use NameCheap shared hosting mail. They support incoming but not outgoing.
Sure it is clear inside each org but secures between. Nice because you can secure in your org by contract. Not as good as e2ee of course.
Tuta has no IMAP, vendor lock-in, bad.
Proton has IMAP with extra steps, almost vendor lock-in, bad.
Gmail has IMAP, good. So, we can use it with our own libre app, with GPG, but first we need an account.
Making a new Gmail account is not private. Also, paying for paid Gmail is not private.
sh.itjust.works/comment/208023…
GPG and mailbox.org or anothet "just" email service
Disroot | Disroot.org
Disroot is a platform providing online services based on principles of freedom, privacy, federation and decentralization.disroot.org
Hold on, am I missing something? I don't see anyone in here talking about that time proton openly endorsed the Republican party. Did we forget about or forgive them for that? Is it just irrelevant right now? They backtracked later but like archive.ph/2yWGz
When organizations make a move like that, they usually don't stop pushing in that direction, even if they backtrack in response to pushback. While I'm sure they're still better than google, I have a hard time trusting them after that. It feels relevant to talk about because like you said, using proton is adding another trust point.
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Kind of tired of beating the dead horse on that story, but part of privacy is that you need to trust the company that you're dealing with.
He's out there openly praising on authoritarians move to install a puppet government and open the gateway to corporate corruption. If our privacy companies are going to be sneaky and dirty, we want it done in the shadows. All he had to do was stay quiet. But he got noisy, then the PR department started gaslighting, and none of that's a good look for a privacy company.
The thing is, Trump doesn't give two shits about anybody, and the guy running the company should have known this.
But now it's old news, it can die. He can prove that he can run the company by good faith measures and doing the right thing instead of by trying to gaslight people through PR.
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You have to trust that:
They're not logging your IP on their VPN and coorelating it with output traffic.
They won't dox you to motion pictures houses because of your torrents on their VPN.
They wouldn't slip you some javascript in their client at the request of a foreign government to dox you without letting you know.
Code is good, but there's a lot of operational information there that doesn't get exposed by being open.
Code in the face of no malice wouldn't be a large worry. They rolled over on a French activist and doxxed them for the French government. Those logs should not have existed in a privacy company.
Again, this is all old news now. Let's see him make hard decisions to protect the clients and turn the PR side of things from "the empire did nothing wrong" to hey, let's have an open dialog.
i don't care about their VPN. the issue you describe is very real, but it's inherit to all vpn providers. what i care right now, is their email service. you can switch vpn providers in less than 15 minutes, but email takes days. so i wouldn't want to go around doing all of that every time some employee says something stupid.
and btw, if you use native installed apps, then the worry of them serving malicious javascript goes way down because any change they make on the complied package would be very likely to be very obvios to someone, because its open source ( i won't go into detail here).
Got banned on their sub for criticizing that clown Andy the bootlicker.
They are happy to shill free speech when they take your money, but no free speech when they get criticized.
Tells you what you need to know about corpo.
Their email is best in class though. Other services are mid at best.
That sounds like the worst option of all. At least I can trust google has some protections in place to stop employees from looking at you email, because if they didn't there would be thousands of cases all the time.
In your case, you never know who is looking. At any point a rogue admin can issue a bank password reset and just read the email
I've never heard of the term web hotel before. I'm guessing its web hosting
Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about. 😀 That's fine, but unless you know something about the topic, you shouldn't really be judging...
I know exactly who is looking. And I would also know if anyone tampers with the passwords. I guess you don't have the skills, and that's fine. You might even think that there's anything in the world that is totally secure. There's not a single thing that is secure.
Oh, what is this? - forbes.com/sites/zakdoffman/20…
I wouldn't say you have gained nothing. The amount of data provided to google or microsoft when using their email is significantly more. For example, your app or client is checking email all of the time, giving them telemetry on your location and activity, all your devices, 24/7. Google logs and analyzes all of your interactions with Gmail's web pages, how long you have certain emails open for, what you don't bother to open, what you tag as important, etc.
Much of the one-way email you sign up for from companies and organizations come from smaller outfits like sendgrid or their own infrastructure, so you are cutting google out of information about your associations and interests.
Also, in regards to that 90%, you can either be part of the problem for all your contacts, or part of the solution. The network effect is huge.
1. don't use email, that's the ideal solution
2. use a provider like cock.li and send messages encrypted with pgp. this isn't ideal, pgp leaks a lot of data and cock.li gets sinkholed by most email providers.
3. use proton and encrypt emails with pgp, you have not much privacy but it's less worse than microsoft and not much convenience loss, except that proton doesn't allow email clients(at least if you don't pay), I don't know about ms).
they pretty much always collaborate with the police
a corporation is a legal extension of the state, hence why all of them will always collaborate when ordered by the courts or otherwise required by law.
some will even collaborate when they are not required by law such amazon ring providing pigs access for no reason, facebook censoring content per request of US or Israel... needless bullshit but hey it helps get government contracts ;)
bottom line, expecting corpo to do anything for you for 5 bucks a month is naive, at best they should not do it for no reason and they should not sell your data.
but even that is a tall order for these parasites.
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.youtube.com
The old Inside-Outside strategy. Reactionaries aren't the only ones who can work a ratchet.
Absolutely within the purview of "moderate" leftists to advocate turns to the left and backstop turns to the right at every opportunity. But they do have to do those two things.
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in reply to arsus5478 • • •oshu
in reply to arsus5478 • • •run these two commands:
sudo apt install mlocate
sudo updatedb
frongt
in reply to arsus5478 • • •infjarchninja
in reply to arsus5478 • • •for me
locate --version
returns:
plocate 1.1.23
sudo apt-get install plocate
not locate
thingsiplay
in reply to arsus5478 • • •locate
with alternative and updated versions of it. For usage the command name is stilllocate
, but the package name should be different, in examplemlocate
orplocate
and there are other alternatives too. The main difference between the old and new versions is they are faster.N0x0n
in reply to thingsiplay • • •From your personal experience, what do you prefer and why, if you don't mind 😀.
Difference between mlocate and plocate
Unix & Linux Stack Exchangethingsiplay
in reply to N0x0n • • •I actually don't have a preference. I usually just use the default locate implementation my distribution provides. I used mlocate before and when the distros switched to plocate, I rolled along with that without making efforts installing mlocate from a different source. Its the easiest and safest way to me. Usage and performance between mlocate and plocate seems to be identical in my experience (no benchmark, just how it "felt"). plocate is actually mlocate with a few patches for edge cases, if I understand it right.
I have it currently uninstalled due to an issue:
However, recently I had some issues with the locate and KDEs baloo (baloo can do content indexing too but I set it to only filename indexing, so its similar to locate). Those tools may have killed my previous system SSD and on my new one I noticed they used up Gigabytes of RAM and seem to be stuck. After investigating both tools seem to have choked on few filenames that contain unusual characters. Therefore I have disabled them for now until figured out how to deal with this (probably renaming) and try later again.
Botzo
in reply to arsus5478 • • •dpkg --search $file
tychosmoose
in reply to arsus5478 • • •locate
isn't installed by default, but there is alocate/stable 4.10.0-3
package and it installs just fine for me.limelight79
in reply to arsus5478 • • •gnuhaut
in reply to arsus5478 • • •locate
uses an index you need to update usingupdatedb
before it is able to find anything.updatedb
may run periodically because of a cron job, but the index is probably missing right after installing it manually.interdimensionalmeme
in reply to gnuhaut • • •wewbull
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •gnuhaut
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •I guess because that adds extra complexity that isn't inherently necessary and can be added on top, plus it eats resources. You'll spend the cycles either way basically, at least this way it's optional. I don't bother with a file indexer because with SSDs nowadays,
find
is pretty fast, and how often do you search for files anyway?Linux has APIs to get notified on file system events (fanotify, inotify) which would allow such a service to update itself whenever files are created/delete immediately, but
locate
is way older than that, from the 80s. I think popular DEs have something like that.There's also ways to search for specific files that come with packages (e.g.
dpkg -S
), because the package manager already maintains an index of files that were installed by it, so you can use that for most stuff outside/home
.interdimensionalmeme
in reply to gnuhaut • • •And often advanced searches like only this root folder, in reverse order of accessed time, or only folder
On windows I use void tools everything but nothing like it compares in speed and ease of use on linux.
It's one of my many roadblock to transition to linux.
pitiable_sandwich540
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •Have you tried RTFM? 😛
Jokes aside afaik you could do everything you mentioned with sort, find (with -type f, -printf and -mtime) and grep (filtering via regex with the -e flag).
Alternatively you could try KDE's file explorer dolphin (or even just its search utility kfind) as a graphical alternative.
My point is switching to linux is not quick or easy, but there are few really impassable roadblocks (games with shitty kernel level anticheat for example) and there is a high likelyhood someone in this community has encountered your problems aswell and migjt even know a solution.
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in reply to pitiable_sandwich540 • • •pitiable_sandwich540
in reply to swelter_spark • • •interdimensionalmeme
in reply to pitiable_sandwich540 • • •using find to sort all pictures in /pics/ by inverted (i.e., most recently accessed first) access time, and filtering only those with an exposure time between 1/20 and 1/100 seconds
In voidtools everything it would be
pic: path:"C:\pics" sort:da-descending ExposureTime:1/20..1/100
But actually doesn't work because "ExposureTime" is only available as an sorting order not a filter but you get the gist ;)
pitiable_sandwich540
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •Ah yeah okay, I see, that would be quite tedious to implement in bash. Everything looks pretty neat. 😁
Buuut I just looked at KDE's search framework filter options (used by dolphin if you press + f ) and it seems it is indeed possible to search/filter by exposure time with dolphin or via directly in the cli.
Baloo - ArchWiki
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in reply to pitiable_sandwich540 • • •gnuhaut
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •Seems like a good and useful workflow for sure. Don't know if something equivalent exists, maybe it doesn't.
I'd personally use
find
for this, but it is a command line tool, and while I have memorized some of the more common options (directories-only would be-type d
for example), I'd have to look at the manpage for more advances options. It's not hard exactly but it's not easy-to-use GUI software for sure.interdimensionalmeme
in reply to gnuhaut • • •I've taken to using chatgpt to make me the more advanced find queries, before on linux I would ONLY use
find /path | grep -i somenames
So that's already an improvement, if still a bit tedious
The thing about everything is that it's so ergonomic, fast and powerful.
Being able to search anything and sort everywhich way with the click of a button
Check out this sublime search syntax (this not even half of it ! )
And the re-ordering by columns, and there are just SO MANY columns you can add, like search by EXIF camera exposure, no problem !
I really wish there was something as good as "everything" on linux, it's just awesome.
gnuhaut
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •interdimensionalmeme
in reply to gnuhaut • • •But if there's not something like... whatever it is that thing that makes WizTree faster than WinDirStat, then it would probably work in a very slow compatibility mode
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in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •MonkderVierte
in reply to interdimensionalmeme • • •GitHub - sharkdp/bat: A cat(1) clone with wings.
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in reply to MonkderVierte • • •MonkderVierte
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in reply to MonkderVierte • • •MonkderVierte
in reply to arsus5478 • • •IFS=:; find $PATH -executable -iname "$1" -print
Speed advantages of a indexed DB don't matter much anymore with nowadays hardware.