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Asking Lemmy for a concise write up about why Corporate Social Media can't work ?


What makes a social network “work”?


Typically, we say that a social networking service works when it achieves some of these:

  • Community – gives users the ability to create communities they can feel a sense of belonging to.
  • Freedom of expression – expands people's ability to speak their mind in a .. umm... meaningful way ? (looking at 4chan's /pol/).
  • Rich expression – actually offers tools to express yourself (presence of features like markup, formatting, embeds).
  • Constructive culture – becomes an environment where people learn and participate in constructive and fun activities — like university clubs. (Sorry for the example, but Reddit’s r/anime comes to mind.)
  • Privacy & safety – respects users’ privacy and safety.
  • Developer support – provides good developer tools.



Feel free to add more points, or challenge the ones I’ve listed.

It seems like a general consensus here on Lemmy that — no matter how many times you try — Reddit will always slip from Aaron Swartz to u/spez.
Why do you think that is?

Disclaimer: I wrote the post by myself, but used AI to refine my bad English and markdown,

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in reply to zaknenou

Public forums should be publicly owned. These are essential social tools that allow us to have discussions with each other and shape our views and opinions. These forums must be operated in an open and transparent manner in a way that’s accountable to the public.

Privately owned platforms are neither neutral or unbiased. The content on these sites is carefully curated. Views and opinions that are unpalatable to the owners of these platforms are often suppressed, and sometimes outright banned. When the content that a user produces does not fit with the interests of the platform it gets removed and communities end up being destroyed.

Another problem is that user data constitutes a significant source of revenue for corporate social media platforms. The information collected about the users can reveal a lot more about the individual than most people realize. It’s possible for the owners of the platforms to identify users based on the address of the device they’re using, see their location, who they interact with, and so on. This creates a comprehensive profile of the person along with the network of individuals whom they interact with.

This information is shared with the affiliates of the platform as well as government entities. It’s clear that commercial platforms do not respect user privacy, nor are the users in control of their content. While it can be useful to participate on such platforms in order to agitate, educate, and recruit comrades, they should not be seen as open forums.

Open source platforms provide a viable alternative to corporate social media. These platforms are developed on a non-profit basis and are hosted by volunteers across the globe. A growing number of such platforms are available today and millions of people are using them already.

From that perspective I think that open and federated platforms. Instead of all users having accounts on the same server, federated platforms have many servers that all talk to each other to create the network. If you have the technical expertise, it’s even possible to run your own.

One important aspect of the Fediverse is that it’s much harder to censor and manipulate content than it is with centralized networks such as Reddit and BlueSky. There is no single company deciding what content can go on the network, and servers are hosted by regular people across many different countries and jurisdictions.

Open platforms explicitly avoid tracking users and collecting their data. It's also more difficult for third parties to collect data since it doesn't all conveniently live on the same server that some company owns. Not only are these platforms better at respecting user privacy, they also tend to provide a better user experience without annoying ads and tracker bloat.

Another interesting aspect of the Fediverse is that it promotes collaboration. Traditional commercial platforms like Facebook or Youtube have no incentive to allow users to move data between them. They directly compete for users in a zero sum game and go out of their way to make it difficult to share content across them. This is the reason we often see screenshots from one site being posted on another.

On the other hand, a federated network that’s developed in the open and largely hosted non-profit results in a positive-sum game environment. Users joining any of the platforms on the network help grow the entire network. More users joining Mastodon is a net positive for Lemmy because we get more content and more people to have discussions with.

Having many different sites hosted by individuals was the way the internet was intended to work in the first place, it’s actually quite impressive how corporations took the open network of the internet and managed to turn it into a series of walled gardens.

Marxist theory states that in order to be free, the workers must own the means of production. This idea is directly applicable in the context of social media. Only when we own the platforms that we use will we be free to post our thoughts and ideas without having to worry about them being censored by corporate interests.

No matter how great a commercial platform might be, sooner or later it’s going to either disappear or change in a way that doesn’t suit you because companies must constantly chase profit in order to survive. This is a bad situation to be in as a user since you have little control over the evolution of a platform.

On the other hand, open source has a very different dynamic. Projects can survive with little or no commercial incentive because they’re developed by people who themselves benefit from their work. Projects can also be easily forked and taken in different directions by different groups of users if there is a disagreement regarding the direction of the platform. Even when projects become abandoned, they can be picked up again by new teams as long as there is an interested community of users around them.

It’s time for us to get serious about owning our tools and start using communication platforms built by the people and for the people.

in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

But after reading, Seems like your answer argues that open source federated alternatives are better than corporate social media. While I personally agree, the main subject of this thread is why the phenomena: "privately owned social media that seems to embrace us at first turns against us eventually", actually more like "stops working eventually". the subject is why this is inevitable, this paragraph is the main subject:

No matter how great a commercial platform might be, sooner or later it’s going to either disappear or change in a way that doesn’t suit you because companies must constantly chase profit in order to survive. This is a bad situation to be in as a user since you have little control over the evolution of a platform.


You mentioned Marxist theory. From what I understand, Marx or some other commie argued that the good capitalist who plays with the rules is left behind in the race ("If I don't lobby someone else lobbies") and the winners use all kinds of ways to create monopoly and destroy the ones slacking. Thus Capitalism leads to monopoly and kills competition and fairness inevitably.
I kinda get the impression that corporate social media turning against its' users is inevitable in the same fashion for some similar argument. That's what Lemmy seems to think like.

But, I don't see it happening when I'm using Telegram, or when observing Valve's behavior.

in reply to zaknenou

Right, it's the systemic pressures of capitalism that tend to select for a certain type of behavior. It's what Cory Doctorow terms enshittification. The key part to keep in mind is that selection pressures guide general behavior within the system, it's perfectly possible for outliers to exist. However, it doesn't mean they will continue to be good actors. For example, telegram has already been adding ads in channels, and there will probably be more dark patterns going forward if it manages to secure a big enough chunk of the market. It's also hard to say what will happen with Valve once Gabe steps away from it.



WYR Eat the same mediocre meal or a random meal every day?


You have a chef prepare the meal for you. The mediocre meal is just like a very okay 5/10 whatever of your pick, but you have to eat the same thing every day.

For the random meals you must consume the 500 calorie meal in full each timenyou choose to have a meal. No skipping once a meal is there.

Inedible or rotten stuff is not included. Just food that might be alien to you. Like it could be balut one day and a schnitzel the next. Maybe haggis.

Nothing completely unreasonable.

Allergies will be compensated for ig. Choice based dietary preferences will not. If you're vegan you're fucked.

Nutrient needs will be met in both cases. No health issues will arise due to an unbalanced diet.

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in reply to SnokenKeekaGuard

Option 1 is my actual life the past two years. Option 2 sounds great. I like 90% of the foods I try and I’ve always enjoyed asking people who work at restaurants for recommendations for food they think is good but not ordered often.


Personal data storage is an idea whose time has come


If you're a regular internet user the Personal Data Storage paradigm won't move your data from the cloud to your personal computer. Most people will still rely on an institutional cloud service, but instead of data-banking with a shareholder-controlled corporation people’s data can be entrusted to the equivalent of member-owned credit unions for data storage.
in reply to erlend_sh

Or how about the radical idea of not relying on someone else for your important files?
in reply to DirkMcCallahan

How do you account for off site back ups though? I'm currently setting up my own set up but I'm not sure how I should perform off site back ups.
in reply to Pycorax

Got a friend or family member willing to let you drop a miniPC at their place?

You could also go the offline route - buy two identical external drive setups, plug one into your machine and make regular backups to it, drop the other one in a drawer in your office at work. Then once a month or so swap them to keep the off-site one fresh.

Also there’s really nothing wrong with cloud storage as long as you encrypt before uploading so they never have access to your data.

Personally I do both. The off-site offline drive is for full backups of everything because space is cheap, while cloud storage is use for more of a “delta” style backup, just the stuff the changes frequently, because of the price. If the worst were to happen, I’d use the offsite drive to get the bulk infrastructure back up and running, and then the latest cloud copy for any recently added/modified files.

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in reply to DirkMcCallahan

But.... but, there is no such thing as local storage. There are just other people's clouds!
in reply to erlend_sh

I can't say I'd understand what mysterious kind of data it might be that's stored in social media networks but is owned and used by myself. Really - I don't have any data I'd want to make use of stored in any social network, except banal stuff like my last few listens at Music Brainz. Usually you're uploading the sort of data you want to be published to social media. They're not created there, so why would I need a URL other than file:// with a local path attached to access it. I also seriously doubt that klicking "Save as..." really is some secret and complex ritual known only to immortals and the priest caste, nowadays. (I might be wrong here. I just do not have anything to do with mortals or godfood in my daily life.)


in reply to LiamBox

I'm so glad this is slowly getting more solid traction. For more viewing and reading pleasures on the topic,

Videos:

- Benn Jordan

Breaks down the technology and deployment of the systems. Builds his own and shows strategies to beat the analysis of your data.


- Louis Rossmann

Citizens address Austin Mayor on AI Surveillence cameras; AS EXPECTED on September 25th part 1

Louis Rossmann attempted to address the surveillance systems in his local town, couple of other videos on his channel showing the hurdles and bureaucracy that's making it harder to address these situations.


- The Majority Report w/ Sam Seder

Another video detailing ALRP's (automatic license plate readers/flock safety systems) and their uses in local and interstate areas


EFF Members' Speakeasy: Police Surveillance and ALPR - The Electronic Frontier Foundation


Articles:

Data Driven: What Is ALPR? - The Electronic Frontier Foundation

Lots of articles listed in here, one of the major groups trying to spread information on these programs.
in reply to LiamBox

There's a few in a town nearby, owned by the city, looking at a roadway. Then there's three, with no owner information, all looking into a Lowe's parking lot.


Domenica In, Corinne Cléry e Kekko dei Modà tra gli ospiti. Nel talk su Ballando arrivano Rosa Chemical e Fialdini: anticipazioni del 5 ottobre 2025


Mara Venier torna domenica 5 ottobre 2025, alle 14.00 su Rai 1, con il terzo appuntamento stagionale di Domenica In. In scaletta interviste, musica, talk di attualità e un focus sul mondo di Ballando con le Stelle.

OSPITI E ANTICIPAZIONI: Domenica In, Corinne Cléry e Kekko dei Modà tra gli ospiti. Nel talk su Ballando arrivano Rosa Chemical e Fialdini: anticipazioni del 5 ottobre 2025




La Verità Scomoda: Dalla Scienza alla Sanità, Tutti Ci Vogliono Malati?


Amici, preparatevi a perdere la pazienza. L'intervista a Robert F. Kennedy Jr. che ho analizzato fa emergere crepe drammatiche nel sistema che ci governa. Non si parla di teoria, ma di incentivi perversi che trasformano la scienza in propaganda e la sanità in un business miliardario.
Il punto non è solo l'immunità dei produttori di vaccini o le ombre su figure come Anthony Fauci; il dramma è che ogni livello del sistema guadagna se restiamo malati. Le carriere degli scienziati sono legate alle aziende, le riviste sono diventate "contenitori di propaganda" e i bonus dei medici dipendono dai profitti.
Non è forse questa la vera pandemia? Quella di un sistema finanziario che, in nome del profitto, mette a rischio la nostra salute? Dobbiamo esercitare il nostro obbligo di cittadinanza: fare le nostre ricerche e resistere al pensiero unico imposto.



[RESOLVED] GDM Issues (Fedora 42)


I've recently been unable to use my computer running Fedora 42 with gnome. It boots up, and GDM starts running, however it shows a flat grey screen with no login option. I can pull up a tty and login as normal (although using gnome-session to start a GUI session from there doesn't work). I have tried to use systemctl to restart GDM from the tty, but that l brings me back to square one.
What can I do from here to resolve this issue?

GPU: Radeon 7800xt, Open Source Drivers
Window System: Wayland.

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in reply to Lime66

UPDATE:
Resolved, it was an issue caused by a faulty display port cable. Different issues from this cable had happened recently, I just initially assumed it was a software issue due to the fact that only GDM was affected.
in reply to Lime66

honestly on single user machines I uninstall a display manager. autologin on console, and put a few lines in my zshrc to start my wm automatically


Talk about choosing "a community", not "a server"


It stroke me that saying things like "First, you have to choose a comunity to join the fediverse" might be a better way to ease onboarding nwecommers than "First, you have to choose a server".

Although the latter might be technically more accurate, the former is what people might
* understand better;
* ends up being what they're really doing;
* frighten them less;
* reinforce the "community" contribution aspect;
* lead them to better understand the federated aspect as they realize that communities are not isolated and can talk to eachother.

What do you think?

"Let me know in the comments bellow..." - just kidding!

in reply to Ninguém

Except you don't have to interact with other users on your server, so why label them as "communities". Communities on Lemmy or subreddits are already more deserving of the term "community" because that's where you actually go to interact with other people.

Edit: Typo

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in reply to mnemonicmonkeys

Except you have to interact with other users on your server


Says who? I don't know the server of anyone I'm interacting with. I think "gateway" would be a better choice, but that isn't any less confusing.

in reply to Ninguém

Doesnt really matter i think. Lemmy has become very centralized to Lemmy.world. But you have a few more medium sized instances also so its still better than a central site.
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in reply to nutbutter

What site is that? Didn't cohost die?
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in reply to nutbutter

My brother's name is fedi therefore I'm calling it Fediverse.



think about the children


being bourgueois democrazy

complaining falsely about those evul commies gathering all your data

proceed to gather your data to get big profit from ads

have an important data breach



F-Droid and Google's Developer Registration Decree


Recently Google decided that in the future for an app to be installable on an Android device, the developer of this app needs to be ID'd and registered at Google. They claim this is in order to "to better protect users". However, I think, this is a move to get more control over the Android ecosystem, and the data they can collect with it. If anyone who wants to develop an app for Android devices has to be registered with Google, this puts all the power of who to allow distributing an app to Google.

Furthermore F-Droid shows, that safe app stores can exist without registration, neither of users nor of developers. There is zero malware or spyware on the F-Droid store. What there is on F-Droid is thousands of beautiful, useful and, most importantly, safe apps. And this entire ecosystem is at risk, because Google wants to gain more control over its users and over the Android operating system.




Way past its prime: how did Amazon get so rubbish?




Discord customer service data breach leaks user info and scanned photo IDs




Fucked my computer trying to upgrade processor, please help me unfuck it


Installed a Ryzen 7 5700G processor to a Gigabyte GA-AB350M-HD3 motherboard. Plugged computer back in, hit power button. Computer powered on but no video output. Double-checked cables, then started Googling. Apparently this is commonly a result of an out-of-date BIOS. Got the latest BIOS update on a flash drive with my roommate's assistance, then went to put the old processor (a Ryzen 5 1500X) back in so that I could run the system BIOS and flash the update, at which point I learned that I accidentally bent several of the pins when removing it. Tried to seat the processor out of a sense of wishful thinking, and sure enough, no number of attempts would get the computer to turn on with it inside.

So, in short: I have a new processor my motherboard doesn't recognize, an old processor it does recognize but is now broken, and a BIOS update that would presumably let it recognize the new processor but that I can't install without a working processor. I've read that some Gigabyte motherboards support loading BIOS updates from a flash drive without a processor, but as far as I can tell, the GA-AB350M-HD3 isn't one of them. Not sure what I'm supposed to do here. I could order another Ryzen 5 1500X, but 1) that costs money and 2) I'd have to wait for it to arrive.


in reply to schizoidman

That’s because they are little removed that can’t compete with people that are smarter than them, that know they can still create things that don’t kill and pollute the planet.
in reply to schizoidman

The Trump administration, everyone in it and everyone that supports it are never going to be a net positive or, arguably, ever do anything positive for anyone, anywhere, ever. They are self-proclaimed terrorists, racists, misogynists, pro-war, anti-life, pro-suffering, pro-pedophile.

This is where we are now and we either need to fight it or accept it. I would hope the former.



The instance chooser is filling up nicely


It took a few days for instances to be upgraded and admins to fill in their profiles but it's looking much healthier now!

piefed.social/auth/instance_ch…

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in reply to silence7

The prosecution’s case against dozens of Stop Cop City protesters collapsed last month when a judge dismissed most of the charges against them


Well that's great news


in reply to ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

Very sad that no leftist parties are anti NATO. Pro NATO is the real pro Trump and 5% GDP for US weapons, deep austerity, and Russophobia suicide, and every disgusting CIA allegiant lie subjugating Europeans, is not ever going to be popular.
in reply to humanspiral

Indeed, with the principled left being systematically eradicated in Europe, the right became the only remaining alternative to mainstream liberals. As people become disillusioned with the system that's visibly failing them, they fall out of the mainstream and move to the right because that's the only game in town.


Rachel Corrie, The American Activist Who Was Crushed By An Israeli Bulldozer While Protesting In Gaza


On March 16, 2003, 23-year-old Rachel Corrie and several others were protesting against the demolition of Palestinian homes in the Gaza Strip city of Rafah. The Israeli government claimed that militants were using the structures to fire on soldiers, but Corrie and her fellow members of the International Solidarity Movement wanted to protect the families who lived in Rafah. When a bulldozer started to approach the home of a family Corrie was staying with, she stepped in front of the machine and began shouting through a bullhorn so it would stop — but the driver continued forward, crushing Corrie to death.

The operators claimed they didn't see Corrie because she was concealed behind a pile of debris. However, others there said Corrie was wearing a neon orange jacket and was clearly visible. One man later recalled, "Her head and upper torso were above the bulldozer's blade, and the bulldozer operator and co-operator could clearly see her. Despite this, the operator continued forward, which caused her to fall back, and out of view of the driver… she tried to scoot back, but she was quickly pulled underneath the bulldozer." Israeli officials ultimately ruled Corrie's death an accident.

Go inside the untimely killing of an American peace activist by Israel: allthatsinteresting.com/rachel…



in reply to HotWheelsVroom

What's the name of this meme template? First time seeing it and it's awesome.
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Morrison, CO.


I seem to have somewhat of a knack lately, for positioning astrological bodies at the top center of cool pictures.

Thank you for seeing my work!







ProtonVPN or Mullvad? Why would you choose one over another?


I'm thinking about paying for a VPN, I currently don't use one.

I'd like to use Mullvad but they don't seem to have regional prices, while Proton does.

I wonder if Proton is still a reliable option, Proton is 60% cheaper in my country, probably because regional pricing (but I didn't check if it's really the case).

If anyone has any other suggestion I'd like to hear it.

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in reply to CodenameDarlen

I like mullvad i use their dns filtering and their socks5 proxies however it does lack port forwarding so it sucks for torrenting.
in reply to CodenameDarlen

Definitely Mullvad, the whole point of VPN is to stay private and Proton does not accept crypto while Mullvad does.

If the VPN has your payment details then any privacy just goes out the window.



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