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Qt 6.10 Released With Flexbox Layout, New SearchField

Qt 6.10 application development framework adds a new Flexbox layout, SearchField control, and major accessibility upgrades for desktop and mobile apps.

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whimsy

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That's very interesting. Are you talking about some kind of temporal delay? I'm very curious if it's something that happens on my end too. Would you have some examples?

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Eugenia

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It's just loads some stuff in a window, and then loads the rest of the stuff a quarter of a second later or so. It happens often when using kde. It just doesn't feel organic to me.

AOMedia Will Be Talking More About The AV2 Video Codec Later This Month

Last month the Alliance for Open Media 'AOMedia' began teasing that the AV2 video codec will release later this year

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Look at those sleek lines, it all interlocks.

AV7 is clearly the best.

Av7 - oh god imagine if you pulled that seven in a bit. Sexy.

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Oh shoot, you’re onto something there!
Ah you got me thinking about graphic design now!
Good eye though ;)

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Aside: what’s the gist of this channel? I’m not really familiar with it but the last few things I’ve seen of it appear to be two brothers communicating to each other via vlogs?

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The Green brothers are interesting and thoughtful. They try to be an overall positive influence on the internet, even aside from their vlogbrothers thing.

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just general vlogs about their interests

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Pretty much, vlogs as if it were two people communicating back and forth via message. Hank is a really smart dude and also works on the SciShow channel, and his videos are generally pretty good/insightful IMO.

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I get what the video is saying, but I don't see this as a bad thing. We moved on from many of those services because we found better ways to do things, or at least ways that we liked more. And when we move on from the services we use now, it'll be because we once again found something we liked better.

The internet has died several times, but each time it came back in some new way that had adapted to the new ideas and ways we came up with on how to interact with each other. I'm sure when it dies next, we'll replace it with something that better fits our changing wants and needs.

And hopefully, when that time comes, it's something much more decentralized and resilient against governments and corporations meddling and censoring us.

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Kristi Noem ‘stares down’ Antifa. It was reporters and a guy in a chicken costume

Kristi Noem praised for ‘staring down’ Antifa. It was a dozen reporters and a guy in a chicken suit

Trump has claimed Portland is ‘war-ravaged’ - but residents and local authorities dispute that

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VPN Comparison

I made a spreadsheet comparing different open source VPN providers.

Part 2 here

Providers

Notes

Please do not start a flame war about Proton.
Please do not start a flame war about cryptocurrencies. Monero is the only cryptocurrency listed because of its privacy.
The very left column is the category for each row, the middle section is the various VPN providers, and the right section is which VPNs are the best in each category.
IVPN has two differing plans, which is why "Standard" and "Pro" are sometimes differentiated.
For accounts, "Generated" means a random identifier is created for you to act as your account, "Required" means you must sign up yourself. Proton VPN allows guest use under specific conditions (e.g. installed from the Google Play Store), but otherwise requires an account.
Switzerland is seen as more private than Sweden. Gibraltar is seen as privacy neutral.
All prices are in United States Dollars. Tax is not included.
Pricing is based on the price combination to achieve the exact time frame. For example, Proton VPN does not have a 3 year plan but you can achieve 3 years by combining a 2 year plan with a 1 year plan.
The availability section is security based. Availability is framed around a GrapheneOS and secureblue setup.
The Proton VPN Flatpak is unofficial, but based on the official code.
Availability on secureblue is based on the ujust install-vpn command. Security features must be disabled on secureblue in order to use the GUI for IVPN and Mullvad VPN, but not for Proton VPN. Mozilla VPN and NymVPN are available as Flatpaks, which are safer than layering packages.
I wanted to include more categories, such as which programming languages they are written in, connection speed, and security, but that became far too difficult and complex, so I decided to omit those categories.

Takeaways

NymVPN is very very new, but it's off to a strong start. It wins in almost every category. I actually hadn't heard of it until I started this project.
If you want a free VPN, Proton VPN is the only one here that meets that requirement.
If you want to pay week-by-week, IVPN is the only one that allows that.
If you're paying month-by-month on a budget, Mullvad VPN is the cheapest option.
NymVPN is the cheapest plan for anything past 1 month.
If you want to use Accrescent as your main app store, IVPN is the only VPN available there for now.
If you want to pay for a bundle of apps, including a VPN, Proton sells more than just a VPN.
Mozilla VPN is terrible. The only thing it has going for it is a verified Flatpak, but NymVPN also has that so it doesn't even matter.

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VPN Comparison 2.0

After making a post about comparing VPN providers, I received a lot of requested feedback. I've implemented most of the ideas I received.
Providers

AirVPN
IVPN
Mozilla VPN
Mullvad VPN
NordVPN
NymVPN
Private Internet Access (abbreviated PIA)
Proton VPN
Surfshark VPN
Tor (technically not a VPN)
Windscribe

Notes

I'm human. I make mistakes. I made multiple mistakes in my last post, and there may be some here. I've tried my best.
Pricing is sometimes weird. For example, a 1 year plan for Private Internet Access is 37.19€ first year and then auto-renews annually at 46.73€. By the way, they misspelled "annually". AirVPN has a 3 day pricing plan. For the instances when pricing is weird, I did what I felt was best on a case-by-case basis.
Tor is not a VPN, but there are multiple apps that allow you to use it like a VPN. They've released an official Tor VPN app for Android, and there is a verified Flatpak called Carburetor which you can use to use Tor like a VPN on secureblue (Linux). It's not unreasonable to add this to the list.
Some projects use different licenses for different platforms. For example, NordVPN has an open source Linux client. However, to call NordVPN open source would be like calling a meat sandwich vegan because the bread is vegan.
The age of a VPN isn't a good indicator of how secure it is. There could be a trustworthy VPN that's been around for 10 years but uses insecure, outdated code, and a new VPN that's been around for 10 days but uses up-to-date, modern code.
Some VPNs, like Surfshark VPN, operate in multiple countries. Legality may vary.
All of the VPNs claim a "no log" policy, but there's some I trust more than others to actually uphold that.
Tor is special in the port forwarding category, because it depends on what you're using port forwarding for. In some cases, Tor doesn't need port forwarding.
Tor technically doesn't have a WireGuard profile, but you could (probably?) create one.

Takeaways

If you don't mind the speed cost, Tor is a really good option to protect your IP address.
If you're on a budget, NymVPN, Private Internet Access, and Surfshark VPN are generally the cheapest. If you're paying month-by-month, Mullvad VPN still can't be beat.
If you want VPNs that go out of their way to collect as little information as possible, IVPN, Mullvad VPN, and NymVPN don't require any personal information to use. And Tor, of course.
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Whats best for mainland China?

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AirVPN needs some spotlight.

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trovate di pazzia tra i rifiuti della mia esistenza (dalla mia tastiera esce di tutto)

Nell’arco di pochi giorni, qualche settimana scarsa, le mie giornate sono diventate così tanto credo noiose che iniziano a spuntarmi fuori riflessioni assurde… vorrei stare infinitamente nel lettino a dormire, perché fa freddo e fa buio prima, e tutto ciò fa un pochino male all’anima (soprattutto il freddo, sto ferma e ho freddo, mi muovo […]

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trovate di pazzia tra i rifiuti della mia esistenza (dalla mia tastiera esce di tutto)

Nell’arco di pochi giorni, qualche settimana scarsa, le mie giornate sono diventate così tanto credo noiose che iniziano a spuntarmi fuori riflessioni assurde… vorrei stare infinitamente nel lettino a dormire, perché fa freddo e fa buio prima, e tutto ciò fa un pochino male all’anima (soprattutto il freddo, sto ferma e ho freddo, mi muovo in casa e il vento che creo muovendo l’aria mi fa freddo, non ce la posso fare), e le altre cose rimangono difficilmente in primo piano… ma, se questo mi porterà ad andare a dormire prima per stare in coma più a lungo, forse è meglio, tanto non è che ho molto da fare la sera… ben 2 post di recupero per i miei manga li ho scritti, e tanto domani mattina mi piazzo col PC a lezione e programmo come se fossi a casa, e tutto si ripeterà così all’infinito… 😤
Ah ma, attenzione, ho divagato; le riflessioni assurde di questa sera non sono quelle di cui sopra, che tutto sommato non penso si possano nemmeno tanto etichettare come anormali, bensì… che minchia di roba esce dalla tastiera (a membrana, maledetta, mannaggia alla miseria) del PC? No, non è un pensiero che non c’entra assolutamente nulla con tutto il suddetto, perché in effetti usando meno il PC fisso ultimamente — ma in realtà, stando meno alla scrivania in generale, visto che troppi giorni sto fuori — dovrebbe accumularsi meno roba strana, e invece… scuotendola tra ieri sera e poco fa è uscito tutto questo bel tesoretto di roba (almeno, bello per chi apprezza il discarica-core, credo)… 🤢

…Peli minuscoli che mi tiro dalla faccia mentre faccio altro ed evidentemente ogni tanto finiscono anche lì in mezzo, quelli che sembrano pezzetti di unghia forse finiti lì dentro quando le ho sistemate l’ultima volta… e il resto, di colore marrone, a parte qualche microplastica sparsa e appena visibile, credo sia tutta pelle morta che rilascio gradualmente nell’ambiente anziché fare la muta ordinatamente come i serpenti… Va a finire tutto in questa specie di griglia nera di buchi (che non è come un buco nero, purtroppo, perché in quello la roba sparirebbe, invece qui girando o soffiando riesce tutta fuori, e che schifo) e boh, mi fa sembrare un mostro in decomposizione. 🧟‍♀️
A parte tutto, non ricordo precisamente da quanto non la scuotevo così per pulirla, ma è stato non troppo tempo fa, credo… eppure, si riempie sempre di roba, e io non me ne capacito. Ma ci sarà un fottuto modo per evitare in primo luogo che diventi abitualmente una discarica? A parte i vari frammenti solidi di cheratina che vabbé, a me sembra di fare attenzione a non farli finire lì, ma evidentemente ho problemi di skill… come stramaledizione faccio a non farci finire almeno la pelle morta??? Io non sono Asmongold, le mani e la faccia me le lavo, quindi, veramente, sono esterrefatta! (NON toccate mai la mia tastiera, che sennò vi prendete 10 malattie, di questo ne sono alquanto sicura.) 😾
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Frieren - Capitolo 7

Ancora una volta, Frieren decide di passare da vecchi amici... quelli che sono rimasti, almeno, e cioè uno: Eisen, il nano che...

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Legacy Journalists from NYT, CNN Are Mentors in a Fellowship Founded for Pro-Israel “Information War”

The fellowship has attracted 16 scholars and journalists from several mainstream publications to serve as mentors, including The Atlantic, Spectrum News, The Spectator, Ynet, Times of Israel, and two journalists at The New York Times: Jodi Rudoren, the former Jerusalem bureau chief for The New York Times, who now oversees newsletters for the paper, including The Morning and DealBook; and Sharon Otterman, who covers education, health, and religion in the New York City area for the Times and who has closely covered the Palestine solidarity campus protests at Columbia and other universities.

The New York Times handbook of “values and practices” for its journalists states they “should take care to ensure” any public engagements—including giving speeches, participating on panels, teaching classes and presenting at conferences—do not “create an actual or apparent conflict of interest, or undermine public trust in The Times’s independence.”

In response to an inquiry from Drop Site about whether having staffed reporters mentoring for a program whose founder has said it exists to help Israel win an “information war” represented a conflict with the Times’ standards, spokesperson Charlie Stadtlander said in a statement: “It’s ridiculous to suggest participation as a mentor in this fellowship is anything other than helping to build the reporting skills necessary for the next generation of independent journalists.”

Other fellowship mentors include CNN’s Van Jones, who recently issued an apology after drawing intense criticism for comments he made on HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher on Friday making light of images of dead Palestinian children and saying they were part of an Iran and Qatar disinformation campaign; and Michael Powell, a staff writer at the Atlantic and a former national reporter at The New York Times, whose recent articles include “The Double Standard in the Human-Rights World,” that criticizes groups like Amnesty International and Doctors Without Borders for becoming “stridently critical of Israel.”

Legacy Journalists from NYT, CNN Are Mentors in a Fellowship Founded for Pro-Israel “Information War”

Hardline Israel advocate Jacki Karsh says she founded the new journalism fellowship to help “shift some of the narrative” in Israel’s favor.

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watching my own family progress from leftist older generation to maga-apologists in the younger generation due to the anglosphere's influence is proof enough for me that all these isreali hasbara efforts to steer the american overton window back into a pro-zionist state will work on the younger generations.

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Top Benefits of Using a Hanging Blade Sign for Your Business

A hanging blade sign is one of the most effective ways to attract attention and enhance your storefront’s visibility. Positioned perpendicular to your building, it allows customers to spot your business from a distance, even in crowded streets. These signs not only improve brand recognition but also add a professional and stylish touch to your exterior design. Whether you own a café, boutique, or retail shop, a well-designed hanging blade sign helps guide foot traffic, strengthen your brand identity, and create a lasting first impression. It’s a cost-effective marketing tool that keeps working for your business 24/7, ensuring your store never goes unnoticed.

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Discover premium blade signs, illuminated blade signs and hanging blade signs to interior and exterior blade signs, we craft stunning custom blade signs.

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db2

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Does it come with a free night with your wife or do I just have to wait my turn like everyone else?

If you're going to try to force ads at me like a boomer I'm going to make fun of you like one. Fair's fair.

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Frieren - Capitolo 6

Il tempo continua a passare inesorabile, ma le maghe non si fermano neppure in questo capitolo. Adesso sono a...

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Taiwan’s president ‘prostituting himself’ – Beijing

Lai Ching-te is “propagating separatist fallacies” while selling out to foreign powers, officials have said

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eldavi

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anyone who has to work to earn a living is a prostitute; we're just using our bodies a slightly different way.

this guy is special because he's rich enough to guarantee that he doesn't have to, he just loves doing it; he's not a prostitute, he's just the ruling's class' willing removed.

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Oregon Fast-Tracks Renewable Energy Projects as Trump Bill Ends Tax Incentives

Oregon Accelerates Green Energy Projects Before Trump Phase-Out of Tax Credits

Gov. Tina Kotek ordered the move, which follows reporting by Oregon Public Broadcasting and ProPublica that highlighted impediments green energy advocates blame for the state’s poor ranking when it comes to the growth of renewables.

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The Discord Breach Might Be Worse Than We Thought, As The Hacker Is Said To Have Two Million Age Verification Photos

Discord Hacker Allegedly Has Two Million Age Verification Photos, Including ID

It's being claimed that whoever breached Discord now has access to 1.5TB of user data, with more than two million photos.

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Just roll all the class actions into a UBI fund for the people

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Don't ever use Tencent apps

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IN BRIEF: Kiev's terrorism, Australia’s Russophobia: what Russian Foreign Ministry said

The countries of the collective West, covering up the terrorist acts of the Kiev regime and the regular attacks of the Ukrainian army on the Zaporozhye nuclear power station, are becoming "direct accomplices" of the Ukrainian crimes, Maria Zakharova …

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eldavi

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yeah, the azov brigade is definitely guilty of ethnic cleansing style pogroms and i'll never cease to be amazed that their activities have been covered up considering that you can find them with simple google searches.

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Political opponents commit demonstrative punishment of Gutsul — lawyer

The judges denied Evghenia Gutsul the right to attend meetings where her sentence of seven years in prison is being challenged

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Give me a single reason why Sora2 should exist.

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Give me a single reason why Sora2 should exist.

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Because capitalism can't wait to completely get rid of this pesky workers.

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hank is hero

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Ukraine cancels local elections

Nazi Dictatorship gonna Nazi Dictatorship

Ukraine cancels local elections

The powers of currently serving officials have been extended until after martial law is lifted

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RT? As in Russia Today? Complaining that the country they invaded isn't holding local elections while they're bombing the shit out of it?

Weirdly, no one has commented on straight up Russian propaganda.

Not many countries hold elections during an active war.

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It's remarkable that demradlibs used to be all "anti-war" during the Bush years but gradually moved so far to the neo-interventionist right wing through Obama that you're cold war level gung ho for NATO and for spreading Russophobia.

In reality there's absolutely nothing out of the ordinary about west aligned nations to have dysfunctional elections or open dictatorships and no amount of screeching about "western values" and corny reddit slogans like PutlerPutlerPutler changes that. Which is US/EU propaganda to the point of censoring "enemy" media but weirdly doesn't bother you amirite.

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So you assumed I'm an American liberal...

Firstly, I'm not American. I live in Europe. So fail one. Secondly, I'm a Socialist, so fail two. Fuck liberalism, and screw America, but ultimately, that doesn't mean you have to swallow everything the enemies of American push. Oh, and I'm on Lemmy because I haven't touched Reddit in a while. You're the weirdest leftie that is still actively on an enshittified right-wing hell hole and the projection is real crazy. You cannot demand critical analysis from Americans, and fail in it yourself.

Oh, btw, Russia is capitalist, with many, many billionaires. The proletariat are not reaping the benefits of their exploitation.

I live in a world where you can be anti-captalist and not shilling for Russia.

Let's go back to basics though, if you have a source saying something, you have to ask who said it, and whether they have a motive. Russia Today is the Russian state broadcaster. It's a really dreadful source to use to understand a war Russia are currently in. I'd suggest you'd find a less biased source, but not too many of them are pushing Russian propaganda.

I'm really curious. How do you run polling stations, where you have to advertise to the public where they are, and to come there, and protect yourself from drone and missile strikes? I really want to understand how you can run elections where you're being invaded. Can you help me out here? Any examples?

I get really annoyed with Libtards throwing around terms like "tankies" but you're really kind of walking the ball into your own net (football reference) when you're shilling this hard for Russia.

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m532

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Almost all countries at war hold elections. I don't know how, but they do. Yet ukraine doesn't. Could have something to do with the nazis in charge.

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CrypticCoffee

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Examples of countries that have had territory invaded that run elections? I asked for examples because I'd love to see real world examples and not fictional examples from inside someone's head...

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https://forum.guncadindex.com/u/unexpected

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If like me, you were wondering how this changed anything since they've been doing this for years, then you will find this part of the article to be relevant:

FTA: Martial law and a general mobilization were first declared in Ukraine in February 2022 and have since been extended numerous times.

So.. in other words, no... nothing has changed.

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Chinese scientists unlock insights into far-side moon using Chang'e-6 samples

The China National Space Administration and China Atomic Energy Authority have jointly released new findings on far-side lunar samples brought back by the Chang'e 6 mission, revealing that the moon's far-side mantle is colder than the near side.This

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Xiaomi’s In-House XRING O1 Chip Takes on Snapdragon 8 Elite in Geekbench Tests

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this chip doesn't run android? Is it harmonyOS or a new xiaomi OS?

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yeah, Xiaomi have their own HyperOS now

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Traders seek yuan payment from Indian state buyers of Russian oil, sources say

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I wasn't blaming anyone, I was pointing out that it has become way too normalised for "people familiar with..." and "speaking on condition anonymity..." etc to be pushed as credible sources by news agencies that claim to be "gold standards" of journalism. At best it is lazy, too often the subtext is, "we are making this shit up."

The point of that story to promote rage about how western sanctions are being evaded

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either that or manufacturing consent for taking action against those "breaking international law"

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Greta Thunberg alleges torture in Israeli detention after Gaza flotilla arrest

https://www.reuters.com/world/greta-thunberg-alleges-torture-israeli-detention-after-gaza-flotilla-arrest-2025-10-07/

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German Industrial Slump Deepens on Auto Production Plunge

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-10-08/german-industrial-slump-deepens-with-shutdown-in-auto-production

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China installs 100 solar panels a second as total PV capacity tops 1 terawatt

“Just staggering:” China installs 100 solar panels a second as total PV capacity tops 1 terawatt

China’s cumulative solar capacity surpasses one terawatt after the addition of a "staggering" 93 GW of new PV capacity in May alone.

^{Joshua S Hill (RenewEconomy)}

#china

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I see a smudge of grey without form ~~I should put on my glasses~~

alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns] via GNU+Linux Humor

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alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns]
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Well, that's one way to test an identity.

It popped into my head, if I had to see it, then so do you.

#linuxhumor

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eldavi

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It popped into my head, if I had to see it, then so do you.

i wish i could see it, it would give a fascinating new dimension to that movie lol

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geneva_convenience via United States | News & Politics

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Musk’s X settles lawsuit with ex-Twitter executives over $128m in unpaid severance

Elon Musk and X have settled with four former top executives at Twitter, including the former CEO, who accused the billionaire of failing to pay $128m in promised severance pay after he acquired the social media company in 2022 and fired them.

The former executives say that Musk falsely accused them of misconduct and forced them out of Twitter after they sued him for attempting to renege on his offer to buy the company. The plaintiffs are Parag Agrawal, Twitter’s former CEO; Ned Segal, Twitter’s former chief financial officer; Vijaya Gadde, its former chief legal officer; and Sean Edgett, its former general counsel. Musk and X have denied wrongdoing and said the executives were fired over their performance.

Musk’s X settles lawsuit with ex-Twitter executives over $128m in unpaid severance

Four former executives say Musk falsely accused them of misconduct and fired them after he acquired the company

^{Guardian staff reporter (The Guardian)}

#USA

geneva_convenience via United States | News & Politics

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US shutdown deadlock deepens as senators reject competing bills

The deadlock over ending the US government shutdown deepened on Wednesday, with senators once again rejecting competing bills to restart funding as Democrats and Republicans remain dug in on their demands for reopening federal agencies.

The funding lapse has forced offices, national parks and other federal government operations to close or curtail operations, while employees have been furloughed. Signs of strain have mounted in recent days in the parts of the federal government that remained operational, with staffing shortages reported at airports across the US as well as air traffic control centers. Further disruptions may come next week, when US military personnel and other federal workers who remain on the job will not receive paychecks, unless the government reopens.

When the Senate met on Wednesday afternoon, it became clear that sentiment had not shifted in the eight days since the shutdown began. For the sixth time, Democratic and Republican proposals to restart funding both failed to receive enough support to advance, and no senators changed their votes from recent days.

US shutdown deadlock deepens as senators reject competing bills

Proposals from both sides fail to receive enough support as no senators change their votes from recent days

^{Chris Stein (The Guardian)}

#USA

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Do some women with sexual experience date a virgin?

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FRYD

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Being a virgin doesn’t matter to the vast majority of people. If a woman finds a person attractive, they’re not gonna care if they’re a virgin. If they do, they’re probably pretty judgmental and not worth the time. I’m now 28, I don’t think I’ve heard anyone mention virginity for at least 6 or 7 years.

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Black Carpet Awards: evento collaterale o vera inclusione?

L'evento dei Black Carpet Awards ci fa porre una domanda spinosa: celebrare la diversità in un evento a parte è un atto di inclusione o di separazione?

Ecco i punti chiave:

1. Il Paradosso della visibilità: da un lato, eventi dedicati sono fondamentali per dare luce e voce a chi, nel mainstream, fatica a emergere. Creano comunità e modelli di riferimento potenti.

2. Il Rischio della ghettizzazione: dall'altro, un evento "collaterale" rischia di confinare la diversità in una nicchia, implicitamente suggerendo che non sia ancora pronta per il palco principale dell'industria.

3. La meta finale: il vero traguardo non è avere palchi paralleli, ma un cambiamento strutturale. Camera Moda e le istituzioni devono integrare la diversità nel cuore degli eventi ufficiali, rendendola la norma e non l'eccezione.

In sintesi: I Black Carpet Awards sono un sintomo necessario di un'industria in transizione, ma ci ricordano che il viaggio verso l'inclusione è completo solo quando la diversità sarà il palcoscenico stesso.

Tu cosa ne pensi?

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Black Carpet Awards: Side events or true inclusion? - suite123

Black Carpet Awards at MFW SS26: Side events or true inclusion? Does celebrating diversity in collateral events really promote inclusion?

^suite123

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return2ozma via Technology

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Fake Protest Videos Are the Latest AI Slop to Go Viral in MAGA World

Trump supporters are doubling down on AI sadism.

^{Matt Novak (Gizmodo)}

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A_Random_Idiot

in reply to return2ozma • 2 settimane fa (Ricevuto 1 settimana fa) • •

I'm convinced AI content generation was created with the sole intent of manufacturing outrage material for gullible idiots.

because the rate at which these technophobic illiterates have adopted AI, and expertly use it to generate bullshit, is too high to be otherwise plausible.

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Leon

in reply to A_Random_Idiot • 2 settimane fa (Ricevuto 1 settimana fa) • •

Yeah, no doubt. My mother got radicalised by Facebook over the years. It went from cute dog and cat things to "harmless" conspiracy theories (think bigfoot), culminating in fucking her with QAnon propaganda indoctrination. Last I checked up on her, there's machine generated rubbish all over her feed. She's beyond saving at this point. Suppose she was always primed for this kind of thing, being pro-homeopathy anti-vaccine person.

She doesn't question the machine generated content at all, and I saw that if someone points it out, which a scarce few have done, she just justifies it with "well it could be real, this kind of thing does happen."

At this point I don't think it matters if this technofascism was a knowing plan, or an unfortunate series of events that by themselves seemed justifiable to the people making the decisions, but it doesn't really matter. We're here now. They're not only trying, but succeeding in coercing governments and undermining democracy.

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A_Random_Idiot

in reply to Leon • 2 settimane fa (Ricevuto 1 settimana fa) • •

real sad that she'd throw away all her family and love, for the expense of crazy online conspiracy theories and obsession.

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ipkpjersi

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MAGAts are typically older, so they have less technical knowledge, so they're more likely to fall for AI slop and conspiracy theories.

geneva_convenience via World News

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Brazil’s beef exports to China surge as Trump’s tariffs shift global demand

Brazil’s beef exports to China are on the rise as part of the Asian nation’s larger strategy to avoid agricultural goods from the United States amid their ongoing trade dispute.

Brazil’s beef exports to China rose 38.3 percent in September from a year earlier, reaching 187,340 tonnes, the industry group Abrafrigo said on Wednesday, helping push total monthly exports to a record high.

Global demand for beef has helped Brazil offset the impact of US tariffs on its exports, Abrafrigo said. In August, the administration of US President Donald Trump imposed a 50 percent tariff on several Brazilian goods, including beef, which already had a 26.4 percent levy.

Brazil’s beef exports to China surge as Trump’s tariffs shift global demand

Brazil’s beef shipments to the US tumble by 41 percent as exports to China grow by 38 percent.

^{Al Jazeera}

#Worldnews

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eldavi

in reply to geneva_convenience • 2 settimane fa • •

it's bizarre to me that the chinese were buying so much beef and soybeans from it's political enemy rather than buying it from it's fellow brics member in the first place; brics is literally a trade organization.

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Diplomjodler

in reply to eldavi • 2 settimane fa • •

BRICS is a dictator's club. They hate each other and don't trust each other one wit. It's one of Donnie Poopypants' great "achievements" to actually bring them together.

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eldavi

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who else within the brics coalition can be called a dictator besides xi?

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Diplomjodler

in reply to eldavi • 2 settimane fa • •

Ah, how silly of me. How dare I smear great Leader Putin like that? I will refer myself to ~~gulag~~reeducation camp post haste.

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eldavi

in reply to Diplomjodler • 2 settimane fa • •

that's a good one; who else?

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Diplomjodler

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Al-Sisi.
Modi is certainly working on it.
And would you seriously claim Iran and the Emirates are democracies?

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UltraGiGaGigantic

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Everybody Sucks Here

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ShinkanTrain

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Even before the tariffs, >70% of exported Brazillian soy was sent to China.

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eldavi

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i play a game named tropico and you have to balance trade deals with world powers in order to prevent them from invading your tiny caribbean island nation and i always do a 70-30% split to prevent the americans or the eu from invading.

it's funny to see the chinese doing the same thing. lol

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Republicans could draw 19 more House seats after an upcoming Supreme Court ruling

Many experts are forecasting the end of a key provision of election law — enabling Republicans to shore up their advantage in the House, according to a new report.
Ahead of the court’s Oct. 15 rehearing of Louisiana v. Callais — a case that has major implications for the VRA — two voting rights groups are sounding the alarm, warning that eliminating Section 2, a provision that prohibits racial gerrymandering when it dilutes minority voting power, would let Republicans redraw up to 19 House seats to favor the party and crush minority representation in Congress.

Bye bye free and fair elections by the midterms! And people called me crazy for predicting this.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/10/08/republicans-scotus-vra-00597212

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alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns] via GNU+Linux Humor

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Computer terminology and double meanings.

#linuxhumor

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Rai

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I posted a link and immediately saw your comment hahaha

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geneva_convenience

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I have never seen such bravery

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IRS furloughs nearly half of its workforce due to government shutdown

^{Dan Mangan (CNBC)}

#politics

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Lunatique via Privacy

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If it ask for your phone number its not private.

Nowadays, a majority of apps require you to sign up with your email or even worse your phone number. If you have a phone number attached to your name, meaning you went to a cell service/phone provider, and you gave them your ID, then no matter what app you use, no matter how private it says it is, it is not private. There is NO exception to this. Your identity is instantly tied to that account.

Signal is not private. I recommend Simplex or another peer to peer onion messaging app. They don't require email or phone number. So as long as you protect your IP you are anonymous

#privacy

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shaytan

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal is private, what you should differentiate is being anonymous or not. Using your usual phone number is NOT Anonymous but is PRIVATE, as in the content of your messages being only available to you and the person you're talking to

The way you get a phone number depends on you too, so you can be very much be Anonymous even if signal requires a phone number.

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Lunatique

in reply to shaytan • 2 settimane fa • •

People who actually care about privacy: the quality or state of being apart from company or observation (definition), wouldn't want a company knowing their phone number and thus identity tied to their phone number. Maybe you believe in a lower level of privacy than I do. That's fine but my post was for people who never thought about it but will care and those who should care.

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sidebro

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal doesn't know your phone number, though. It's only used to identify other users in your contacts, and not a single thing about it is stored.

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Lunatique

in reply to sidebro • 2 settimane fa • •

Wow. You give them your phone number to sign up. They text you a confirmation code but they don't know your phone number. Magic

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shortwavesurfer

in reply to sidebro • 2 settimane fa • •

That's not true. When asked to provide data, Signal is able to give your phone number and the last login time.

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SteleTrovilo

in reply to shortwavesurfer • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal stores the hash of the phone number. So you can query them for a specific phone number, but are unable to figure out phone numbers based on the hashes (outside of brute force - trying every 12-digit phone number).

And after doing that, you learn "this person uses/used Signal", with no information about particular messages whatsoever.

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shortwavesurfer

in reply to SteleTrovilo • 2 settimane fa • •

Okay, I was not aware that it was only the hash of the phone number. I was under the impression that it was the phone number itself.

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corvus

in reply to shaytan • 2 settimane fa • •

You are very naive if you think that a company located un the US can provide an encrypted messaging service that can be used by anyone including terrorists, druglords and US enemies without the government being able to access the messages. Lavabit was a famous case and had to shutdown because its founder rejected to comply with an order from the US government to grant access to information. If you are using centralized communication service located in the US forget about privacy.

”Lavabit is believed to be the first technology firm that has chosen to suspend or shut down its operation rather than comply with an order from the United States government to reveal information or grant access to information.[3] Silent Circle, an encrypted email, mobile video and voice service provider, followed the example of Lavabit by discontinuing its encrypted email services.[25] Citing the impossibility of being able to maintain the confidentiality of its customers' emails should it be served with government orders, Silent Circle permanently erased the encryption keys that allowed access to emails stored or transmitted by its service.[26]"

"Levison (founder) explained he was under a gag order and that he was legally unable to explain to the public why he ended the service.[21]"

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dasgewisseextra

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(net…

daemon and utilities for an anonymizing network

^{Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)}

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corvus

in reply to dasgewisseextra • 2 settimane fa • •

Since when is encryption dependent on the service’s jurisdiction?
The US has a law that applies to any US company operating within its borders: it is illegal to tell your users that the US government has asked your company to spy on their behalf. This is called a key disclosure law, and the US's version of it, called National Security Letters, underwent an expansion with the PATRIOT act; by 2013, President Obama’s Intelligence Review Group reported issuing on average, nearly 60 NSLs every day.

Companies that don't comply with this law are forced to shut themselves down, or remain open, and grant access to user communications to the US government. The Signal foundation is a US domiciled company and must comply with this law without being able to disclose that they have been issued an NSL letter.

Luckily we don’t yet live in that world

Comply with the government order of granting access to messages or shut down implies that
we are already in that world, long ago.
What makes you think that what happened to Lavavit and Silent Circle would not
happen to Signal? Only wishfull thinking can make you think that, evidence tells you
otherwise.

Home

A socially motivated website which provides information about protecting your online data privacy and security.

^{Privacy Guides}

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PowerCrazy

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

Ok government here are the messages i'm legally required to provide you.

U2FsdGVkX1/FEry+/NeyfmzA3icvpchwSo5qySzajv87f9PwhJyog+zS1Qv+j8bzYXG5sCLZMbFqUJn9Cp7RkVY79wuUArUaxE59LtdO0LKT+0+d220DxFVioHe8Vlaq

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corvus

in reply to PowerCrazy • 2 settimane fa • •

If it's so easy why Lavabit and Silent Circle had to shutdown?

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dysprosium

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

Do you understand what encryption means? Genuine question.

If a company is compelled to spy on its users, it doesn't mean hack them. (although perhaps there are same edge cases where you have to wonder the exact definition of hacking)

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corvus

in reply to dysprosium • 2 settimane fa • •

Obviously you are missing the point. Even Gmail is private if you are going
to do the job of encrypting your messages by yourself, but that's irrelevant
with what we are discussing here.

What we are discussing here is that if you are a company offering a service
of encrypted communications located in the US, the government has all the power
to force you to shut down if you don't give them access to what they want.
And that's not speculation, they're actively doint it because they
are backed by the law.

Why people are so naive thinking that the government are not going
to do something to get what they want when the law is on their side,
when sometimes they don't hesitate to do it even when it's blatantly illegal?

The only way to avoid surveillance is with free, open source and
descentralized software. If there is a company in charge of running the software
that's a vulnerability and, like the cases already mentioned, those in power are going to exploit it
shutting the service down if the company doesn't comply.

It doesn't matter how much you like or trust the service, there's simply no reason why
they wouldn't do it again when they already dit it successfuly.
Why some people who care about privacy can't see this obvious fact is beyond my understanding.

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dysprosium

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

Alright I think I know what you mean, but I'm still not sure we're actually on the same page regarding encryption.

If a company is forced to do whatever ths government commands it to do, that's only valid within certain constraints.

For example, the company cannot be forced to grow wings snd fly to thr heavens. That's physically impossible.

Similarly, it also cannot provide the decrypted messages of its users because it (like Signal) does not have the KEYS that are absolutely 100% necessary for decrypting the encrypted messages of its users.
So, again, it's physically impossible to hand over either the keys or the decrypted messages.

However, there is one remedy that Signal CAN do, if somehow forced. That's changing the Signal program. It certainly can push an update that sends Signal the keys for decryption.

However, at that point, the source code at github doesn't match the compiled binary of the program anymore, and very good chance people would notice, and thereby people would lose trust in Signal.

I'm not sure about the examples you gave about the government being successful in obtaining user details of a company. Were those details encrypted as well? Was the source code publically available? Was the program popular?

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Mensh123

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal is free and open-source. It cannot be denied that basically everything, including minor details like usernames, is end-to-end encrypted and kept secure. The Signal protocol has been proven to be secure by many independent experts and thus it is mathematically impossible for Signal to gain access to your sensitive information (except for your phone number, obviously).

A phone number alone just won't do much.

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Dessalines

in reply to Mensh123 • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal is not open source, its a centralized US service, and you have no idea what their server is running. They even went a full year without publishing server code updates at one point, until it caused enough of a backlash that they started doing it again. But publishing that is no guarantee of anything, because you have no access to their server.

mathematically impossible for Signal to gain access to your sensitive information (except for your phone number, obviously).

A phone number in most countries, including the US, means your real name and address.

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Mensh123

in reply to Dessalines • 1 settimana fa • •

Signal's server is open-source. Of course, they could do something else in secret, but the openness of the client (here's the client) is enough to verify that E2EE exists.

Your phone number alone just doesn't give any real insight: you can derive that the person behind it prefers to communicate in private and that they're probably alive, but that's about it. Also, I don't think Signal can get your name without a government to look it up. That does happen sometimes, it's just that nothing importmant ever comes out of it.

GitHub - signalapp/Signal-Server: Server supporting the Signal Private Messenger applications on Android, Desktop, and iOS

Server supporting the Signal Private Messenger applications on Android, Desktop, and iOS - signalapp/Signal-Server

^GitHub

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Dessalines

in reply to Mensh123 • 1 settimana fa • •

Signal's server is open-source

Prove it, give me ssh access to their centralized server so I can verify that they're running the code they've published. Otherwise this is a "just trust me" claim.

Also, I don't think Signal can get your name without a government to look it up.

There are 10 websites that publicly publish phone number and identity info, right now. Not even a government, but a random stranger can convert your phone number to your real identity.

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QuazarOmega

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

Since when is encryption dependent on the service's jurisdiction? When Signal has got subpoenaed it has always been incapable of providing data that involves the content of the conversation signal.org/bigbrother/

The app is also open source with reproducible builds (and you can use Molly instead, if you prefer) and when the clients of an end-to-end encrypted system are sound, that is all that matters to secure the content of the communication.
Audits are also performed as listed here community.signalusers.org/t/ov…

I don't understand where this doomerism comes from tbh, (online) privacy will cease to exist when either maths does or it becomes globally illegal to use encryption and the government's intrusion is really so pervasive that they constantly know what you're doing. Luckily we don't yet live in that world, though the pressure is real and we are the first that have to fight for this basic human right

Government Communication

When legally forced to provide information to government or law enforcement agencies, we'll disclose the transcripts of that communication here.

^{Signal Messenger}

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dogs0n

in reply to corvus • 2 settimane fa • •

Email is a very different thing.

You can't protect against emails being received in plain text.

Don't know the technicalities of the specific case you are referencing, but I know that if the government wants to they can middleman any received email before the provider can encrypt it for storage on their servers (by forcing the provider to let them).

On the other hand, if you use an end to end encrypted chat app, you can't middleman any messages from the providers side by force because the messages are always encrypted on the users device before being sent.

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eldavi

in reply to shaytan • 2 settimane fa • •

the phone number drives me nut since mine changes every few months; everyone i know has my voip number that gets everything forwarded to each new number.

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IncensedCedar [comrade/them, any]

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

You can also get a phone number in a number of ways without it being connected to your identity. You can use voip services or buy a phone and a SIM in cash. I still think this is a good think to point out for all the people who use signal or other services with a phone number directly connected to their identity.

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freedickpics

in reply to IncensedCedar [comrade/them, any] • 2 settimane fa • •

Depends where you live. I'm in Australia and phone companies aren't allowed to activate a number without tying it to an ID. So criminals just use stolen IDs and regular people don't get privacy. Also YMMV but virtually every service that needs phone verification won't accept VoIP numbers anymore

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Prove_your_argument

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

lol try signing up for an email account today without tying a phone number to it or another established email account. It's incredibly difficult.

You might be able to create an account, but then all "3rd party services" (e.g. creating accounts on absolutely fucking anything) will be blocked and your account will be either restricted or forced to submit a kind of verification that doxes you to lift said block, probably.

I found a single sketchy provider that would take verifications from proton mail that allowed me to then create more accounts, but I had to try over a dozen mail providers before I found the obscure one that did not require any pre-existing accounts, phone numbers or identification documents to just create an email to simply sign up for any web forum, service or basically do anything most people do with email. Everything ends up linked to each other at some point.

There's just no privacy anymore. The ones who think there is are probably not as private as they really think they are today.

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Lunatique

in reply to Prove_your_argument • 2 settimane fa • •

Protonmail is highly accepted and tutamail didn't ask for my number or another email. You are in a group called privacy but you think there is no privacy?

I just stop using those accounts that force me to give up my number. It's called standards, YOU must have them and you will have more privacy than most.

This group function is to help increase privacy. That's what I'm doing by letting you know not to use your phone number. If you have a defeatist ideology. You lose.

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Prove_your_argument

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Protonmail is highly accepted

Sure, requires 3rd party email or cell phone to work though.

tutamail didn’t ask for my number or another email

The last one, run by little over a dozen people as FOSS, and easily quashed by the long arm of the law or a pricey lawsuit. What happens then?

I just stop using those accounts that force me to give up my number. It’s called standards

You still need an email that is completely associated to you for official things like medical interactions, government interactions, and stuff like sports tickets if you care about going to a sports game in a town like Boston. Hell, when you send resumes I assume you have a professional inbox for that too.

So how do you do it? Do you live in two worlds with a burner phone / never checking your 'private' stuff outside of some kind of proxy/vpn scenario where you remote into whatever box is handling your actual private online presence?

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Lunatique

in reply to Prove_your_argument • 2 settimane fa • •

Geez. You just don't get it. You don't need your identity tied to your email. Proton mail didn't ask me for a phone or email. But I've had it for years so maybe that changed. But you conceal your personal info when you sign up. Tutamail is used by many people. And you can email any other email provider with it

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Prove_your_argument

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Proton mail didn’t ask me for a phone or email. But I’ve had it for years so maybe that changed.

It changed. I made one in the past week. You can create an account, you cannot get any account verification emails from ANY other provider, they block them and then restrict your account until you verify with someone else.

I don't know why you think I don't get it though. The amount of metadata accessible when visiting a website is crazy nowadays. They can track things people never even imagined, like the arc of how your hand moves across the screen with a mouse, the cadence of how you type, and then tie those to profiles with any other details they have managed to scrape. Combine that with hours of activity, browser versioning addons etc, resolution and any number of other bits of metadata and suddenly someone has a shadow profile linking you to your proxy IPs or whatever else.

Sure, i'm more paranoid but I don't believe anyone with a head on their shoulders would say privacy on the internet has ever gotten better.

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freedickpics

in reply to Prove_your_argument • 2 settimane fa • •

Sure, i’m more paranoid but I don’t believe anyone with a head on their shoulders would say privacy on the internet has ever gotten better.

I mean things are dire but it's not as if nothing has improved. Even just 10-15 years ago most websites weren't using any encryption (or if they did it was only for login pages). Anything you read or sent could be seen by your ISP or someone snooping on the network. Encrypted messaging basically didn't exist or was very niche. VPNs weren't nearly as widespread either. Go back another decade and Tor Browser didn't yet exist (publicly) so there was no easy way to hide your location or stay anonymous online. Governments and companies have clamped down, yes, but our arsenal of privacy tools has never been bigger.

The amount of metadata accessible when visiting a website is crazy nowadays. They can track things people never even imagined, like the arc of how your hand moves across the screen with a mouse, the cadence of how you type, and then tie those to profiles with any other details they have managed to scrape

You can block a lot of this dynamic tracking with NoScript. This will break some websites but it's worth the inconvenience of a messed up page or needing to find an alternate site

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freedickpics

in reply to Prove_your_argument • 2 settimane fa • •

Tutamail is the only service I know of that still doesn't need anything but I don't expect it to last. Email providers that don't make you verify anything end up being used for spam and then websites just start blocking their domain from being used for account creation

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irmadlad

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mailo.com

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Autonomous User

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lemmy.world/post/35730511

Autonomous User

2025-09-10 18:00:11

Signal needs a phone number. Why are we dismissing this as privacy versus anonymity when governments are blocking the registration SMS?

I really don’t get why so many people are turning this into a privacy versus anonymity debate when the real problem is censorship.
Yes, Signal needs a phone number to sign up, but replacing that with an email or username doesn’t make it anonymous. The real issue is that governments are blocking the registration SMS, so people can’t even sign up for the app in the first place.
Sure, there are workarounds, but most people aren’t going to jump through all those extra hoops just to use an app. If we want to spread privacy, how do we do that when Signal's phone number requirement is actively working against us?
Instead of arguing over privacy versus anonymity, shouldn’t we focus on making sure everyone can access Signal without issues? What do you think?

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irmadlad

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

So, late to the party. Me Skuzi. This comment is more targeted towards your responses to user comments, but I would extend that to your entire thesis. So I decided to make an entirely new comment.

Honest questions/comments to follow:

Yes, the US govt can 'compel' a organization such as Signal to allow them to monitor/intercept encrypted messages, The government can even 'compel' a citizen to disclose their encryption key. The cost of non compliance varies from contempt of court to short term incarceration. United States v. Fricosu et al.

However, Signal would only shrug and hand them metadata. Even Signal can't decipher your messages. There are other services unrelated to Signal that operate thusly, such as VPNs, that absolutely do not keep logs and run in RAM only. Some of those VPNs have been raided and servers confiscated by multiple governments with nothing to show for their efforts. If I recall correctly mega.nz and other storage facilities operate along the same lines.

As to the requirement for a phone number, yes they do require a phone number. However, unless they've changed something recently, you can use a free or paid for, burner phone number for verification. The caveat is that if you ever have to recover your account or future verification, you may or may not have access to that number if you used a free service. So, that might be a consideration.

Also, some free services might not work while others will. If signing up for a paid account, burnerapp.com for instance, will allow you to sign up via their website, however you can't use a VPN. WiFi can be acquired at any coffee shop. If you prefer more private methods of payment for these services, there are those that accept crypto.

So, there are 'options.' You just might have to jump through a few hoops to get there.

Secondly, Signal is open source, no? The whole shebang including the protocol is open source. Where might 'they' be putting the backdoor to intercept encrypted messages? I can tell you this, the day the world finds out that the US govt has successfully cracked strong encryption ciphers, is the day you are going to see a lot of movement on this planet. From billion dollar corporations, private entities, governments, and even ne'er-do-wells on Signal.

I'm no 'fanboy', tho there is a lot to be a fan of. I'm not getting any kickbacks, compensation, or monetary advancements. If I need to be schooled, please do share.

Signal does plan to add a paid for service as well as their free service.

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hereforawhile

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AES256 was broken the day it was released change my mind.

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irmadlad

in reply to hereforawhile • 2 settimane fa • •

Well, I'm not trying to convince you of anything, however, you can convince me if you'd like. Do you have some substantiating evidence or documentation for such claims? I am aware of improvements to AES256 down through the years, and I am aware of side channel and timing attacks. Not to be discounted, but those are largely theoretical attacks. In addition, most modern computers have mitigated the possibilities of such attacks with hardware instructions for AES to protect against timing-related side-channel attacks.

The NSA reviewed all the AES finalists, including Rijndael, and reported that all of them were secure enough for U.S. Government non-classified data. However, in June 2003, the U.S. Government announced that AES could be used to protect classified information. Now you could conspiriaze that in 2003, the govt played dumb and said that AES was good enough for classified information when they knew they could blow through it like weak toilet paper, but then again, we (America) are not the only country on the planet despite what some people think, and I am quite certain that other governments have made certain their encryption techniques are 99.999% secure for classified documentation and data.

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hereforawhile

in reply to irmadlad • 2 settimane fa • •

You make good points and I can't provide any documentation. But the documentation won't exist. It would be the closest guarded secret of all time. NSA only holds the upper hand if everyone thinks it's secure. If the secret was out that that they could crack it no one would use it and the advantage is lost.

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corvus

in reply to irmadlad • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal would only shrug and hand them metadata
So at the very least by using Signal the government can know everyone you communicated with, at what time and where. And still is considered a private messenger. Amazing.

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irmadlad

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As clients upgrade, messages will automatically be delivered using sealed sender whenever possible. Users can enable an optional status icon that will be displayed in the detailed information view for a message to indicate when this happens.
These protocol changes are an incremental step, and we are continuing to work on improvements to Signal’s metadata resistance. In particular, additional resistance to traffic correlation via timing attacks and IP addresses are areas of ongoing development.
signal.org/blog/sealed-sender

In reading about the Sealed Sender protocol, as I understand, it redacts whom you've contacted. However, the metadata does include timestamps. I have no dog in this hunt as 99% of my messages are whispered into someone's ear. Still, one must implicitly trust the receiver of such whispered messages. I honestly don't care what app you use. Those choices are ultimately yours and yours alone and hopefully dependent on who you entrust with your data. This is just an interesting dissection of Signal and privacy/anonymity for the muse.

In the end, we all trust some entity whether it be your ISP who has your bank account info and residential address and can tell when you're downloading 150 gigs of Linux distros overnight even with a VPN, a bank with every last transaction you authorize, the time/date, or government to which we pay income taxes who has pretty much all the info they would need to show up at your doorstep. If your threat model precludes all the above, I would recommend whispering and disconnecting from society. I honestly do not see any other way.

Technology preview: Sealed sender for Signal

In addition to the end-to-end encryption that protects every Signal message, the Signal service is designed to minimize the data that is retained about Signal users.

^{Signal Messenger}

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SteleTrovilo

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Be specific: what does Signal divilge about me to outsiders besides "I have used Signal"?

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Lunatique

in reply to SteleTrovilo • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal over the past few years has been exposed for having flaws in its security integrity. Even the president's current administration has had a leak issue by using the platform, Signal.

Once again, they ask for your phone number. Anything they ask for your phone number, if your phone number is tied to your identity, can easily be revealed to reveal who you are.

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☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

This is the core of the issue, and it's wild how many people don't get it.

Your phone number is metadata. And people who think metadata is "just" data or that cross-referencing is some kind of sci-fi nonsense, are fundamentally misunderstanding how modern surveillance works.

By requiring phone numbers, Signal, despite its good encryption, inherently builds a social graph. The server operators, or anyone who gets that data, can see a map of who is talking to whom. The content is secure, but the connections are not.

Being able to map out who talks to whom is incredibly valuable. A three-letter agency can take the map of connections and overlay it with all the other data they vacuum up from other sources, such as location data, purchase histories, social media activity. If you become a "person of interest" for any reason, they instantly have your entire social circle mapped out.

Worse, the act of seeking out encrypted communication is itself a red flag. It's a perfect filter: "Show me everyone paranoid enough to use crypto." You're basically raising your hand.

So, in a twisted way, Signal being a tool for private conversations, makes it a perfect machine for mapping associations and identifying targets. The fact that it operates using a centralized server located in the US should worry people far more than it seems to.

The kicker is that thanks to gag orders, companies are legally forbidden from telling you if the feds come knocking for this data. So even if Signal's intentions are pure, we'd never know how the data it collects is being used. The potential for abuse is baked right into the phone-number requirement.

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SteleTrovilo

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

The leak from the administration was because Pete Hegseth included a journalist in a discussion about sensitive war plans. Trying to blame that on Signal is deceptive on your part.

If you are saying that Signal does not offer anonymity then you are right. Anyone I message on there knows it's me. But Signal is still keeping my messages safe from monitoring and third-party surveillance, to the best of my knowledge.

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Dessalines

in reply to SteleTrovilo • 2 settimane fa • •

Everyone you talk to and when you talked to them, with their real identities via phone numbers. Because signal is hosted in the US and subject to national security letters, you should assume the worst.

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SteleTrovilo

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

Are you talking about the client app, or about the service?

Much of what you said doesn't apply to the service, which stores hashed phone numbers and first access / last access times and nothing else.

And the client does store these things, but also lets users delete messages and contacts. Your message deletions can propagate as well.

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Dessalines

in reply to SteleTrovilo • 2 settimane fa • •

stores hashed phone numbers and first access / last access times and nothing else.

Even if this weren't false (otherwise they wouldn't be able to connect to your existing contacts), that's a "just trust us" claim. You give them your phone number, you should assume they have it and not "trust them" to hash it like its a password.

And the client does store these things, but also lets users delete messages and contacts. Your message deletions can propagate as well.

Not that its that important, but its yet another just trust us claim.

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SteleTrovilo

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

You literally don't understand how hashing works, got it. Please educate yourself on this topic. In short, "connecting your existing contacts" is ENTIRELY possible with hashed phone numbers; it's not even complicated or tricky. To claim otherwise, as you just did, is nothing but trumpeting your own ignorance.

As for deleting (and propagating deletion of) messages, this is most definitely NOT a matter of "just trust us". The client is open-source! We KNOW how it works. We KNOW that deletion propagates across devices when you tell it to. We KNOW that the service cannot see your unencrypted messages, and that the encrypted messages are made with AES so even quantum computers in the future can't decrypt them. This is incredibly far from "just trust us".

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https://forum.guncadindex.com/u/unexpected

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Who you are specifically (name etc) and the same amount of information on everyone you have talked to on signal and when you talked. Basically everything except for the actual content of the messages.

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SteleTrovilo

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This is vastly different from every other piece of information I've read about Signal. Please link me to a source for your claims.

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https://forum.guncadindex.com/u/unexpected

in reply to SteleTrovilo • 2 settimane fa • •

If it is tied to a phone number then any information connected to the phone account will be connected to the signal account identity. And any identifying information attached to the method used to pay for the phone account will be attached to the phone account and consequently the signal account.

Typically people pay using credit or debit cards, so the identifying information of those bank accounts become attached to your signal account.

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SteleTrovilo

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So Signal doesn't provide anonymity. Is that all you're saying?

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airikr

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Thank you! Finally someone that also sees Signal as privacy invasing!

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Suburbanl3g3nd

in reply to airikr • 2 settimane fa • •

Don't need an ID to buy a burner phone/number

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hereforawhile

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

People dont realize that you may as well hand over your social security number when you pass out your phone number.

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SteleTrovilo

in reply to hereforawhile • 2 settimane fa • •

Indeed, I also don't realize that. Please explain further.

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winkerjadams

in reply to SteleTrovilo • 2 settimane fa • •

Its very easy to dox someone with a phone number. Not sure about social but address and full name are easily available for free.

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dragospirvu75

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Yes, phone number should be optional for easy contact discovery, not mandatory. As Threema. You have to provide your ID when buying a sim card.

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Dessalines

in reply to dragospirvu75 • 2 settimane fa • •

Not only that, but self-hosting should be an option. It isn't with signal, which is based and hosted in the US, on amazon servers, and subject to national security letters .

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1XEVW3Y07

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

I am a huge fan of SimpleX and their removal of user IDs. I think it's a brilliant solution, and wish that SimpleX was recommended more than Signal.

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Lunatique

in reply to 1XEVW3Y07 • 2 settimane fa • •

If simplex used phone numbers and defeated the whole concept of privacy it would be recommended more.

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dogs0n

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

You can use whatever app you like, but I think this adds confusion.

Signal is private because no one can see your messages except the people you are messaging. The government can't, Signal themselves can't.

Signal is not anonymous only in the sense that the government can check if you use Signal. That's it. They can tell if you use Signal. They can't link messages to your number in any way through data requests, etc.

Not forcing anyone to use Signal, but if you choose to, you can know it is private.

(So this post is confusing privacy with anonimity basically)

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Lunatique

in reply to dogs0n • 2 settimane fa • •

Its not private nor is it anonymous.

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dogs0n

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Try looking up "privacy vs anonimity" (or a similar search query). You may find that your post is talking about anonimity, not privacy.

Signal is private.

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Lunatique

in reply to dogs0n • 2 settimane fa • •

God damn. If you attach your phone number to it. It is not private in most users cases the identity it tied to the phone number. Signal knows the phone numbers and you better understand that they will reveal them if ever requested.

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dogs0n

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Did you look it up?

Yes, as I said, the government can tell if you use Signal or not by asking Signal (by providing Signal a phone number and asking if they have a record of it).

It's not anonymous in that sense, but it is still private because your messages cannot be revealed by such data requests.

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

okay, it's become clear that you're simply broken. End of thread.

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Lunatique

in reply to Jerkface (any/all) • 2 settimane fa • •

No you all are SIMPs for signal. You all are promoting it like you work for them. All because you're too stupid (lack of having information) to understand they are a bad choice for privacy

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Yep we're all out to get you. We have meetings and everything. We have a pot luck on Sunday, and you cannot come.

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dogs0n

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

How are you still unable to differenciate privacy and anonimity.

And you are calling us stupid for using Signal...

Seriously, use whatever you are comfortable with, but don't spread misinformation and panic.

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irmadlad

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Privacy: You knowing who I am but not what I'm doing

Anonymity: You knowing what I'm doing but not who I am.

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Lunatique

in reply to irmadlad • 2 settimane fa • •

They know who you're in contact with, who you communicate with the most due to the phone numbers being linked to your account. On their own website they say people can add you by searching your phone number in the search bar. If your phone number was not stored, this would not even be possible. A reference (like a phone but with your number on display) would have to be used in order to confirm that your account is the one that is being searched. The reference is the phone number. It is not private. I am not the one talking about anonymity over and over you are.

From the very beginning I have been speaking on privacy. If they know your number and know who your number is in communication with they now know what you're doing (talking to person x)

Evennif it is encrypted the damn app is a worst choice than SimpleX the thing I recommended. You chumps want to argue so bad you are missing the point. PRIVACY. Like the name of the damn group you're in. Why get compromised privacy when you can get comprehensive privacy (simplex)?

Answer you are a hypebeast promoing the most popular "privacy app"

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irmadlad

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

They know who you’re in contact with, who you communicate with the most due to the phone numbers being linked to your account. On their own website they say people can add you by searching your phone number in the search bar. If your phone number was not stored, this would not even be possible. A reference (like a phone but with your number on display) would have to be used in order to confirm that your account is the one that is being searched. The reference is the phone number. It is not private. I am not the one talking about anonymity over and over you are.

I've already covered the phone number conundrum further in this thread.

Answer you are a hypebeast promoing the most popular “privacy app”

Quite laughable. Have fun storming the castle bro.

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Lunatique

in reply to irmadlad • 2 settimane fa • •

Have fun when the signal data breach gets revealed SIS

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Jack_Burton

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

What data breach could there possibly be? Phone numbers are already public information and that's literally the only info Signal has. Oh no! My phone number that's publicly available already has been released in a "breach"!

It's already been mentioned numerous times but you're confusing privacy and anonymity.

Per Cambridge Dictionary:

Privacy: someone's right to keep their personal matters and relationships secret

Anonymity: the situation in which someone's name is not given or known:

Using Signal, even after giving them your phone number, fits the definition of privacy in that matters discussed through the app are secret to anyone outside of the sender and recipient. Even if Signal is told to hand over messages, they can't, there's nothing to access on their end. Private? Yes. Anonymous? No.

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Dessalines

in reply to irmadlad • 2 settimane fa • •

How is someone having your real identity, and address, "private" ? This distinction is pointless.

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irmadlad

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

My neighbor knows who I am and where I live.....next door. He does not know what I do, other than observe that I ride a John Deer around in the fields and corn comes up shortly there after. Riding a John Deer in a field is observable by all public passers by. In public we are not guaranteed an expectation of privacy. He doesn't know tho, that I run a private sex dungeon and crack still in my basement.
I'm a haxor diddling some server somewhere to gain access. The server admin can see what I'm doing and indeed would have a record of what I was up to including any associated IP addresses, but wouldn't know me from Adam's house cat if I were truly conducting my activities in an anonymous manner.

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Dessalines

in reply to irmadlad • 2 settimane fa • •

He does not know what I do, other than observe that I ride a John Deer around in the fields and corn comes up shortly there after. Riding a John Deer in a field is observable by all public passers by.

So because he knows only a limited amount, that's the distinction between private and anonymous?

Signal is not your neighbor. Signal's DB stores phone numbers and knows who you are, and who you talked to, and when. Are the people you talk to considered "public", to a US-based corporation?

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irmadlad

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

So because he knows only a limited amount, that’s the distinction between private and anonymous?

It is my distinction, yes. There are many other distinctions like it, but this one is mine based on my threat model. Now, if you'd supply your definition/distinction and threat model, then I can be pedantic about it as well. Or we can accept that, since we are talking about a wide swath of users, no one real definition suites all. If you'd like a similar exercise, hit Lemmy Self Host and pose the question, 'What is self hosting? Is hosting on a VPS considered self hosting or is a home lab considered self hosting'. Report back please.

Signal is not your neighbor. Signal’s DB stores phone numbers and knows who you are, and who you talked to, and when

You know the part in the Signal setup where it asks you for your phone number for verification purposes? You do know Signal does not prohibit the use of temp phone numbers. You can try as many as you like until you get one to work (if you're relying on free temp phone) One phone number not giving you any joy, tap 'Wrong number' and try again, or use a paid for burner phone service such as MobileSMS.io (which is specifically recommended for Signal), Burner, Quackr.io, Temp-Number.com, or there are reports of using Google Voice, if you dare tread those waters.

As clients upgrade, messages will automatically be delivered using sealed sender whenever possible. Users can enable an optional status icon that will be displayed in the detailed information view for a message to indicate when this happens. These protocol changes are an incremental step, and we are continuing to work on improvements to Signal’s metadata resistance. In particular, additional resistance to traffic correlation via timing attacks and IP addresses are areas of ongoing development. signal.org/blog/sealed-sender

As I understand the Sealed Sender protocol, it does redact or seeks to redact the metadata of 'whom you contact and who contacts you'. Since 2024, Signal has introduced usernames to reduce reliance on sharing phone numbers. You can set a username and hide your number from others, though it remains in the database for account purposes. Sooooooo....find you a temp burner phone number to use.

As I've said early on, I have no dog in this hunt. You can use Signal, Simplex, Smoke Signals, design a new enigma machine, whatever. My corn is going to grow regardless and my neighbor will still not know about my sex dungeon and crack still. LOL

Technology preview: Sealed sender for Signal

In addition to the end-to-end encryption that protects every Signal message, the Signal service is designed to minimize the data that is retained about Signal users.

^{Signal Messenger}

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

Holy shitballs what the actual fuck the difference is that if the conversation is private, people cannot listen in. Are you being obtuse?

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Dessalines

in reply to Jerkface (any/all) • 2 settimane fa • •

I don't consider it "private", if you were to know the real identities of everyone I was talking to, and when I talked to them. I'm not telling any US corporation like signal that especially.

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

Yes, we get it. You don't consider it "private" because you are using your own personal definition of the word, and getting all fucking bent out of joint because the definition you just fucking made up all on your own doesn't match what other people mean when they say the fucking word. WE FUCKING GET IT. END OF THREAD.

Dude, these are problems that people have been dealing with on the Internet for more than 30 years now. Not only do we have precise vocabulary that you have not bothered to educate yourself on, WE HAVE SOLUTIONS TO THESE FUCKING PROBLEMS. These are ANONYMITY issues, not PRIVACY issues. If you want an anonymous messaging platform, FUCKING USE AN ANONYMOUS MESSAGING PLATFORM. It's not fucking rocket science.

Please spare us the autism and read a fucking RFC.

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NewNewAugustEast

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

You keep saying this. But you never offer any proof. Everyone keeps telling you why there is a distinction but you keep conflating the two, and here you are flat out bullshitting. It is in fact private.

What is your point? I am beginning to think YOU are propaganda. Or an idiot.

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utopiah

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Started to write a long paragraph to explain the difference between privacy and anonymity but I now believe this new user is (no idea why) collecting engagement via rage bait. I won't participate in their posts anymore.

It might even come from a good place, namely trying to always do "better" and be "more private" but in practice it's just lead to confusion.

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Evotech

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Privacy and anonymity is different things

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Dessalines

in reply to Evotech • 2 settimane fa • •

When this US service has your phone number (meaning your real name and address), then what is the point of making this distinction? Is them having my address private?

No one should have this info, regardless of how you every person differently defines "privacy" vs "anonymity"

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Evotech

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

Just because you know where I live doesn't mean you know what's going on in my house

See the difference?

Words have meaning

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Dessalines

in reply to Evotech • 2 settimane fa • •

mean you know what's going on in my house

Signal knows the real identities of everyone you talk to, and when. Is that not "knowing what's going on in your house?"

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Evotech

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

The post office knows where I live too. And who I send messages to. Didn't mean they read my mail

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

what is the point of making this distinction

because they are completely different things

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Dessalines

in reply to Jerkface (any/all) • 2 settimane fa • •

So its a "private" and "secure" US corporation that knows everyone I talk to and when? I've heard this one before.

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

No, it's a private and secure protocol (not corporation) thanks to end to end encryption. You can evaluate the protocol yourself with your own eyes, except clearly you cannot read, but modulo that.

Newsflash, chuckles: your IP address IS NOT ANONYMOUS. Any private protocol you use without going through Tor, i2p, or some similar anonymizing network IS NOT ANONYMOUS.

You're attacking a strawman. Neither Signal nor anyone else has claimed the protocol or the service are anonymous. Which, yes, is something that every user should know before trusting it. They should understand what it means and what the consequences are. I'm honestly not sure you're even there.

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Dessalines

in reply to Jerkface (any/all) • 2 settimane fa • •

thanks to end to end encryption. You can evaluate the protocol yourself with your own eyes, except clearly you cannot read, but modulo that.

This means nothing when you have no idea what code the server is running, they even went a whole year without publishing their server code updates, until they got a lot of backlash over it. Real security doesn't require a "just trust us" claim.

Also, metadata is content. Even if they don't have the message text, Signal still has the real identities of everyone you talked to, and when. With that you can build social network graphs, which are far easier to harvest and more useful anyway than trying to read through message content and determine meaning.

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nullptr

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

simplex is shady af and literally run by some sus crypto rugpull bums. best to use xmpp and irc. they have been existing for many years and still standing strong.

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Lunatique

in reply to nullptr • 2 settimane fa • •

If you wanted to, you could put full control of your messages even on your own server by using Simplex. Of course, this comment you're saying is a far cry from reality.

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monovergent

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

I'm ready to be called milquetoast, and while I see where this comes from, it comes off idealistic if we are to communicate with people in the present day in any practical way. Do not forget how much of an improvement it already is over the likes of proprietary messaging apps and how much effort it already is to move people to Signal. It is surprisingly difficult for common folk to grasp the concept of anything but a phone number when it comes to messaging apps.

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sqgl

in reply to monovergent • 2 settimane fa • •

Indeed, those who don't have older friends totally underestimate how confused the oldies get by the concept of an alternative phone/messaging app.

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spinning_disk_engineer

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Signal allows you to speak confidentially, therefore it is private. It is not, by default, anonymous. Yes, this plus the centralized server mean that potentially dangerous metadata, like relationship maps, can be collected. All indications are this isn't the case, but that's not something you can count on.

If you need anonymity, which you probably do at least a bit, use simplex. And yes, having more people using anonymous services like simplex is a good thing for the community as a whole. That said, I'm not going to try to convince all of my friends to use simplex. It's just too far from the mainstream, missing too many features. Signal is a sufficient compromise for most people, and it's sufficient for me for most purposes.

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titanicx

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Do you think your phone number is private?

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pineapple

in reply to titanicx • 2 settimane fa • •

it's definetly not public information

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to pineapple • 2 settimane fa • •

It is at best slightly obscured information. If your life depends on a phone number never being associated with you, and you frequently use that phone number, you're a dead person.

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pineapple

in reply to Jerkface (any/all) • 2 settimane fa • •

dw I don't.
My phone number was leaked, I don't know how and it really sucks. It probably happened before I started caring about privacy. and all these phone number aliasing services either don't operate in my region or cost too much money.

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Lunatique

in reply to titanicx • 2 settimane fa • •

I don't have a phone number

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Dessalines

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

This thread shows the success of Signal's PR campaigns, and how a shiny app can get people to overlook all the privacy concerns. They're just as successful as Apple at getting people to think that a US-based corporation hosted on Amazon's servers and subject to national security letters, whose privacy model is "just trust us with your phone number", is in any way secure.

National Security Letters

Since the first national security letter (NSL) statute was passed in 1986 and then dramatically expanded under the USA PATRIOT Act, the FBI has issued hundreds of thousands of such letters seeking the private telecommunications and financial records …

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Lunatique

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

precisely that's why it's become so popular and recommended and now these users are recommending it furthering the amount of people that will have their data exposed there was a leak I believe in 2022 and on signal a lot of customers had their phone numbers exposed if their phone numbers are not stored how did they get exposed? Clearly the answer is that they are stored.

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NewNewAugustEast

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Were there conversations exposed? Do you even understand the difference?

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Matt

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

If Signal isn't private, then why it is recommended over WhatsApp, Matrix and over SimpleX?

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sonofearth

in reply to Matt • 2 settimane fa • •

OP is confusing privacy with anonymity.

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HotChickenFeet

in reply to sonofearth • 2 settimane fa • •

I'd say the two are different but related.

Seems OP is discussing the loss of anonymity, but the below ARE privacy concerns:
* Someone obtaining my number who does not absolutely need it
* Someone knowing who I am, and knowing I do or do not use a service

Granted that it is difficult to completely obfuscate some aspects of your identity.

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anamethatisnt

in reply to HotChickenFeet • 2 settimane fa • •

Those two concerns has been fixed last year.

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HotChickenFeet

in reply to anamethatisnt • 2 settimane fa • •

You misunderstand; regardless of what is shown to other users, the folks running the service know your number, and that you desire using encrypted chat.

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anamethatisnt

in reply to HotChickenFeet • 2 settimane fa • •

Ah, that's because of your use of someone, yes Signal still has that data.

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Lunatique

in reply to Matt • 2 settimane fa • •

Because it has become extremely popular, that's just how it goes. At one point, even Telegram was recommended for being super secure or private, but the privacy is mild on Telegram at best.

But by comparison to Instagram or Whatsapp, it's how the gram looks like Privacy Central, so it was recommended. Now, Signal is replacing that role.

Signal is more private than the sus apps like IG, Facebook, etc. Yes. But only because those apps are so bad.

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Dessalines

in reply to Matt • 2 settimane fa • •

No one should be recommending signal over matrix and simplex. It's probably more secure than whatsapp, but both have social network graphs of everyone you talked to, and when.

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girsaysdoom

in reply to Dessalines • 2 settimane fa • •

Matrix's encryption algorithm was broken for a while and when it was fixed it it took app devs years to migrate to the new requirements. It still might even be the case for a lot of them, I haven't looked in a while.

SimpleX should be secure AFAIK though, but I've heard that it may not be able to scale well to larger user bases. It seems everything has pros and cons.

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Zerush

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

2FA is an important security layer, if the service, after sending you the activating SMS with the code, delete your number (normal in serious services), it's also not an privacy problem. In big us corporations on the other hand, it is, eg.Google store tour number and also probably share it, there 2FA is not an option. Instead a number, some services also admit alternatively a second e-mail account to receive the activation code, there, if you have doubt, you can use an disposable mail, so there isn't any privacy problem.

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HotChickenFeet

in reply to Zerush • 2 settimane fa • •

2FA is important, but if you use your phone number for anything, you have no idea how long they retain it, how they directly use it, if they sell it, etc. A real phone number can be mapped back to you trivially.

It should be standard to offer TOTP codes that can be used via an authenticator app, hardware key, etc. Aome places do, many do not.

But at the end of the day, they typically don't ask for your phone number because they want to give you security, but rather as a proxy to ensure you have a unique identity. Most people will have only one phone number, and it will be more difficult / costly to get additional ones than burner emails, etc.

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Zerush

in reply to HotChickenFeet • 2 settimane fa • •

Yes, iy's always to use with a grain of salt. As said, it ads a security layer, but can be an privacy hole, despte that mail directions are easier to track as phone numbers, at least in the EU, you can't be mapped back to an user, this is only possible in crime investigations by the police with an court order. Mail adresses on the other hand are unique identifiers which are way easier th track, except you use an disposable mail or alias.
Anyway, eg.in Vivaldi 2FA is safe and apart optional, as also the account itself, only needed when you want to use sync or the use of Vivaldimail, blog and other services it offers. In much other services it's also only an option.

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Lunatique

in reply to Zerush • 2 settimane fa • •

2FA helps with security concerns, not privacy concerns. They still would have your number. Also about Google, they have one of the widest spread and utilized 2FA authentication applications out there.

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Jerkface (any/all)

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Here, go argue with this guy for a few weeks, and give us a break for a while.

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Dessalines

in reply to Jerkface (any/all) • 2 settimane fa • •

what information is provided to an entity about whom.
"Content" and "Context"

Why is only message text considered "information / content / context" here. Signal has your real name and address via phone numbers, and has every other real person you talked to, and when. Why is "message text" considered context, but social networking graphs aren't?

All these definitions are highly subjective, and the above one clearly considers social networking graphs to not be "content". Basically they've re-defined privacy in a way that excludes highly sensitive information like everyone you talk to, and when.

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pishadoot

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Seriously. I'm getting really sick of OPs take, it is a fundamentally flawed and ignorant understanding of what privacy and anonymity are.

If I'm at work and I need to speak to someone in private, we can go in a room and close the door. That's a PRIVATE conversation. It doesn't mean that nobody heard me say "hey Bob, can I talk to you for a minute?" It doesn't mean nobody saw us go in there and shut the door. The conversation is still private.

It's NOT private if someone is listening up against the door, or if there's a recording device in the room (in our analogy most messenger services and protocols fit here).

Signal IS PRIVATE CONVERSATION. But there's metadata about who is talking to whom, and it's NOT anonymous for the reasons OP pointed out, even if OP is a rabble rousing idiot.

Signal is private, free, accessible, and has a good feature set. Their foundation is a nonprofit with ethical motives, and it's widely adopted worldwide because it fills a very real, very necessary niche.

Signal is NOT anonymous. If you want to be anonymous online you've got a lot, possibly an insurmountable amount, of work to do. Signal should not be a part of that because it's NOT anonymous.

Quit strawmanning a good thing because it's not what you're looking for.

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Lunatique

in reply to pishadoot • 2 settimane fa • •

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That is a compromise of privacy. If those hackers used those phone number to access any account by using unique methods those users privacy would be utterly lost.

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Zeon

in reply to Lunatique • 2 settimane fa • •

Sounds like a lack of security rather than a lack of privacy.

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Lunatique

in reply to Zeon • 2 settimane fa • •

It is certainly a lack of security. I wanted to emphasize how it's also a problem for privacy. People in the thread are now having an imaginary argument about anonymity, even though this has never been something I've been confused about. However, it is something that one of the users pulled up, and now they all are harping on it over and over.

Since my phone number is one of my personal belongings, although abstract, if I hide it from you, it is private. If I reveal it to you, it is not. Since it is associated with me, revealing it to you lowers my privacy, as it is one more thing revealed that belongs to me.

These fools can't even comprehend this, literally.

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No one listens to Cassandra.

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I'm curious why you have a different title than the video?

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silly goose meekah

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Large YouTube channels usually try different titles and thumbnails during the first few hours after upload, so the title OP posted was probably accurate at the time of posting.

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Got it, thank you.

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Taldan

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Either Kurzgesagt changed the title, or it's A/B testing with multiple titles. When I watched the video yesterday, it had the same title as OP used

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They changed it.

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You can still edit and change the title!

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frog_meister

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I don't really have an issue with AI slop. It's the same level of quality as most influencer-shit out there.

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