Climate goals go up in smoke as US datacenters turn to coal
Climate goals go up in smoke as US datacenters turn to coal
: High gas prices and surging AI demand send operators back to the dirtiest fuel in the stackDan Robinson (The Register)
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Canadian amusement park threatens to euthanise 30 beluga whales
A Canadian amusement park is threatening to euthanise 30 beluga whales after the government blocked its request to send them to China.The park is said to have told ministers that it was in a "critical financial state" and unable to provide adequate care for the whales
Canadian amusement park threatens to euthanise 30 beluga whales
The Canadian government blocked Marineland's attempt to export the animals to a park in China.George Walker (BBC News)
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does Linux have kernel level cryptographic encryption
i had this idea that a program can edit files in an encrypted environment. WinRaR with higher level of encryption would be the best way to describe it. but i was wonder if the files on a linux HDD or SDD are encrypted.
I do have this idea that you can save encrypted files to a cloud server and pull it out and unencrypted by a light weight program
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I do have this idea that you can save encrypted files to a cloud server and pull it out and unencrypted by a light weight program
Sounds like Cryptomator would work for you.
Repeated deadly cough syrup scandals pose hard questions for India’s drug regulators
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/50737089
Diethylene glycol (DEG) is an organic compound that is commonly used as an industrial solvent in antifreeze mixtures and brake fluids. But, in India, DEG is ending up with worrying frequency where it should never be – in cough syrups for children.
Repeated deadly cough syrup scandals pose hard questions for India’s drug regulators
At least 22 children have been killed since September in the latest such instance. Read more at straitstimes.com.Debarshi Dasgupta (ST)
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The pharmaceutical variant has a strictly controlled presence of DEG, if any, unlike the cheaper commercial kind, which has far higher levels of the compound, making it unfit for human consumption. Manufacturers, knowingly or unknowingly, use commercial-grade PG when making cough syrups to cut costs.Known as the “pharmacy of the world”, India accounted for 3 per cent of the world’s total pharmaceutical exports in 2023. It is particularly known for exporting affordable drugs, especially to Africa and other developing regions.
In May 2023, following the scandals abroad, the CDSCO mandated a testing protocol for cough syrups in designated Indian laboratories before export.
But no such testing was mandated for the domestic market, which has many small manufacturers producing low-cost medicines. It has now asked all state governments to submit a list of cough syrup manufacturers, while initiating a joint audit of these companies.
The failure to prevent repeated cough syrup scandals has also brought up a whiff of alleged corruption. Mr Sukesh Khajuria, a public health activist who has been helping families of the 2019-20 victims in and around Jammu seek justice, alleged that the Indian government had failed to rein in corruption within the country’s drug regulatory set-up.
“Pharma companies have hidden partnerships with the party in power,” he claimed.
A 2024 report published on Scroll, an Indian online news website, said that 35 pharmaceutical companies in India had contributed nearly 10 billion rupees (S$146.4 million) to political parties. Of these, at least seven companies were being investigated for poor-quality drugs when they made their contributions.
Well. If the state doesn't fix it from a licensing side, I guess it'd be possible for a company to fill the gap. Like, certify drug manufacturers.
The difference between certification and licensing is that a certifier can't prohibit a company from doing business if it isn't certified. But...it does mean that a purchaser, at least as long as they know what certification to look for, can look for a given certification.
You can make a certification company that places any restrictions it wants to certify a product or company, so that eliminates roadblocks to getting that side of things moving. 'course, the certifier has to build reputation for the certification to mean much.
In the US, isn't that what the UL (Underwriters Laboratories) electrical designation is? A separate entity that certifies?
I think it is separate from the government.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UL_(safe…
Unlike Energy Star, which is part of the US government's EPA, and thus it was, or was threatened with, reduced in capacity by Trump.
Manufacturers, knowingly or unknowingly, use commercial-grade PG when making cough syrups to cut costs.
i'd note that there's zero technical reason why DEG would end up in PG. reaction of water with ethylene oxide gives you ethylene glycol, diethylene glycol and higher analogues and these are then separated by distillation. propylene glycol is made from propylene oxide instead, and it's more expensive than ethylene oxide. diethylene glycol has little use on its own, at least compared to other glycols
however,
The physical properties of diethylene glycol make it an excellent counterfeit for pharmaceutical-grade glycerine (also called glycerol) or propylene glycol
Germany: Merz pledges to resist 2035 EU electric car switch
Germany: Merz pledges to resist 2035 EU electric car switch
Chancellor Friedrich Merz said he would oppose the "hard cutoff" currently planned by the EU, aiming to stop registering new internal combustion engine cars by 2035. The goal was already under review and looking fragile.Mark Hallam (Deutsche Welle)
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Sorry mr Kaellenius, but the fact that you now make 100k EUR giant screens on wheels with loose interior trim has nothing to do with them being electric.
Signed, someone who actually used to like the cars MB made.
Also the EQE never got a wagon version but the T-modell is super popular for the normal E-class. And the EQC was crossover only, no normal car version at all...
BMW meanwhile went from a beautiful generation of cars to something truly ugly the same time they started making EVs properly and Volkswagen/Audi UX has been shit for at least half a decade now, I HATE operating any of the cars they've made this decade.
Idk what I'm gonna buy when 2000s and 2010s German cars are no longer maintainable, but I don't think it'll be German.
Nova PIV estos pli ilustrita kaj unuavice reta
La prova versio de la nova Plena Ilustrita Vortaro nun estas libere alirebla en la reto. Bertilo Wennergren okupiĝas pri la renovigo de la plej grava Esperanta vortaro preskaŭ plentempe ekde 2020. Ni petis lin rakonti, kiel la nova vortaro diferencas de la antaŭaj versioj, kaj kiam la prova versio iĝos definitiva.
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Colombian president says US military struck Colombian boat, killed his citizens
Colombian president says US military struck Colombian boat, killed his citizens
White House called the allegation "baseless."Anne Flaherty (ABC News)
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What is the US's justification for these attacks on a sovereign state?
What the regime is saying sounds very much like a Gliwice Radio Tower schtick to me.
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Fight Chat Control - Protect Digital Privacy in the EU
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/37368129
Fight Chat Control - Protect Digital Privacy in the EU
Fight Chat Control - Protect Digital Privacy in the EU
Learn about the EU Chat Control proposal and contact your representatives to protect digital privacy and encryption.fightchatcontrol.eu
We will not vote because it would go against the proposal.
Sounds like a way to avoid setting a precedent or a historic record to me.
Macron reappoints Lecornu as French PM after days of turmoil
President Emmanuel Macron has asked Sébastien Lecornu to return as French prime minister only four days after he stood down from the post, sparking a week of high drama and political turmoil.
Macron made the announcement late on Friday, hours after meeting all the main parties together at the Élysée Palace, except the leaders of the far right and far left.
Lecornu's return comes as a surprise, as he said only two days ago he was not "chasing the job" and his "mission is over".
Macron reappoints Lecornu as French PM after days of turmoil
Sébastien Lecornu resigned on Monday after 26 days in the job and he said two days later his "mission is over".Paul Kirby (BBC News)
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Trump admin sparks MAGA fury with Qatari Air Force base in US—"betrayed"
Trump Admin Sparks MAGA Fury With Qatari Air Force Base in US—’Betrayed’
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth announced the U.S. has approved a Qatari Air Force base in Idaho.Mandy Taheri (Newsweek)
How to transfer files between profiles on GrapheneOS?
In the forum, I saw a couple of people suggesting,
1. Syncthing (But Syncthing for Android is dead, AFAIK)
1. USB stick
1. Cloud storage
Please suggest if there are any alternatives. Or what is the option that you're using.
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Not specific to grapheneos, and also battery friendly on LOS is localsend, and on gnu+linux I use instead localsend-go since it offers a CLI (what I use) and a rudimentary TUI which is missing some functionality but good enough (I prefer using it as CLI). But localsend also includes a windows app BTW. On gnu+linux some prefer kdeconnect, but I find it more battery intensive than localsend on the phone, and the extra functionality is not what I expected, like I originally guessed I could write sms from a gnu+linux box, or read past one, and that's not what sms control means.
Don't these alternatives work on grapheneos for some reason?
GitHub - localsend/localsend: An open-source cross-platform alternative to AirDrop
An open-source cross-platform alternative to AirDrop - localsend/localsendGitHub
AirLynk - Secure Peer-to-Peer File Sharing
Airlynk — browser peer-to-peer file sharing without servers
I built Airlynk because I was frustrated with every peer-to-peer file sharing tool I tried — connections would fail, transfers would stall, and NATs or firewalls always got in the way. Nothing I tested was reliable enough for real use, and I wanted a solution that actually worked.
So I decided to build it myself. Over several months, I crafted Airlynk to work entirely in the browser, using WebRTC for direct peer-to-peer transfers. I designed it to be simple, fast, and server-free, with fallback relays only when absolutely necessary. Chunked transfers and progress tracking make even large files move smoothly.
The journey taught me a lot about peer-to-peer networking, browser limitations, and user experience. My goal with Airlynk is to make file sharing effortless for everyone, and I’m excited to keep improving reliability and security based on real feedback from users.
you will find here: airlynk.in/
AirLynk - Secure Peer-to-Peer File Sharing
Transfer files directly between devices with end-to-end encryption. No size limits, no storage fees, just pure speed and privacy.www.airlynk.in
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AirLynk - Secure Peer-to-Peer File Sharing
Airlynk — browser peer-to-peer file sharing without servers
I built Airlynk because I was frustrated with every peer-to-peer file sharing tool I tried — connections would fail, transfers would stall, and NATs or firewalls always got in the way. Nothing I tested was reliable enough for real use, and I wanted a solution that actually worked.
So I decided to build it myself. Over several months, I crafted Airlynk to work entirely in the browser, using WebRTC for direct peer-to-peer transfers. I designed it to be simple, fast, and server-free, with fallback relays only when absolutely necessary. Chunked transfers and progress tracking make even large files move smoothly.
The journey taught me a lot about peer-to-peer networking, browser limitations, and user experience. My goal with Airlynk is to make file sharing effortless for everyone, and I’m excited to keep improving reliability and security based on real feedback from users.
you will find here: airlynk.in/
AirLynk - Secure Peer-to-Peer File Sharing
Transfer files directly between devices with end-to-end encryption. No size limits, no storage fees, just pure speed and privacy.www.airlynk.in
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White House knocks Nobel Committee for snubbing Trump, but peace prize winner praises him
Nobel Peace Prize winner Machado praises Trump after White House criticizes snub
Some of Trump's Republican allies have called for him to get the Nobel Peace Prize, though the nomination deadline passed early in his current term.Kevin Breuninger (CNBC)
Doge-ish comes to Florida: a DeSantis loyalist is going after ‘waste’ in Democratic cities
Doge-ish comes to Florida: a DeSantis loyalist is going after ‘waste’ in Democratic cities
Blaise Ingoglia was handpicked by the Republican Florida governor to lead an assault on municipal spendingRichard Luscombe (The Guardian)
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"Pakistani Islamists" is just wild...
Like, all the Muslims in India were forced into Pakistan, or killed.
It seems completely unnecessary to need to state the religion of a large group of Pakistani demonstrates, but why the fuck use an emotionally loaded word like "Islamist" to do it?
These people were demonstrating against the bullshit deal Palestine was forced to accept, when everyone know Israel will immediately violate it.
Where did I say that any Muslim praying in a mosque is an Islamist? Why are you even bringing this up?
Is TLP Islamist or no? Are TLP not the organizers of this march?
Nowhere in the article does it claim that any Muslim praying at a mosque is an Islamist (show me the specific quote that suggests otherwise).
The article uses the term Islamist in a factual manner.
There are crazies and extremists in the every religion.
Don't you know how to read behind the lines?
Using the word worshipers insread of peotestors. Using formulation that make it look like that islamist group was the only people who protested, mentionning that the protests happened after the "cease fire" which israel isn't respecting , why there is no testimonies from a protestor etc
I legitimately don't know, but if you read the article, this wasn't their plan or their protests.
They're just reporting how many of their members have been infused by police for protesting, and how many have been killed.
Like, if I go to a BLM protest, there's gonna be some assholes I don't agree with there too.
Putting different groups against each other to derail a protest isn't anything new. Neither is acting like a giant protest is only worth as much as the worst people to support the cause.
I understand why the AP is doing it. And I understand why you're doing it.
Topic or Community focused as a place where people can link to suspected AI video content and have folks more expert at spotting slip help?
Hope this is okay here but I am more and more skeptical of short form videos and hope there is a community where we can go to drop slop and have it identified.
Here’s the one in question today:
instagram.com/reel/DMsX0WJOInE…
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Welcome back to Instagram. Sign in to check out what your friends, family & interests have been capturing & sharing around the world.www.instagram.com
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[Announcement] The Third Edict Race Event VoDs
Early Access Announcements - The Third Edict Race Event VoDs - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
Trump threatens 'massive' tariff hike on China over rare earths dispute
Trump also threatened to cancel his upcoming meeting with Chinese President Xi Jinping because of the dispute.
Trump threatens 'massive' tariff hike on China over rare earths dispute
Stock markets dropped on Trump's bellicose Truth Social post that said China is "becoming very hostile" in seeking tough export controls on rare earths.Dan Mangan (CNBC)
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Meanwhile...a US company is making ferrite motors for EVs without any rare earths. Fine for any car except ultra high performance.
Niron Magnetics in MN.
France hosts Arab, Europe ministers for talks on helping Palestinians after Gaza war
France hosts Arab, Europe ministers for talks on helping Palestinians after Gaza war
The Paris meeting on Thursday will focus on security, governance and reconstruction of the Palestinian territories after the war, according to a statement by the French Foreign Ministry.Le Monde with AFP (Le Monde)
i guess it is NYT bad journalism again
On the Tibetan Plateau, nearly 10,000 feet high, solar panels stretch to the horizon and cover an area seven times the size of Manhattan. They soak up sunlight that is much brighter than at sea level because the air is so thin.
My God, THANK YOU! I've seen this article in five different places and everyone is losing their minds over this, seemingly completely oblivious to the fact that:
1) This ONLY affects people who are using OneDrive in the first place.
2) It's a setting that you can change any time.
3) If you want to keep the default but have a specific file outside of OneDrive just - exactly like you said - click "Save As" and store it locally.
It's mind boggling how much people switch off their brains whenever they see Microsoft doing literally anything, and the entire conversation devolves into "Microsoft bad".
"Guilt by association": Children of human rights defenders are suffering from severe psychological trauma under China's state violence, new report says
cross-posted from: lemmy.sdf.org/post/43833960
ArchivedThe exiled Chinese civil society organization “Chinese Human Rights Defenders Families Network” has released a nearly 30,000-word specialized research report titled: “Collateral Childhoods: The Psychological Impact of State Violence on the Children of Human Rights Defenders.”
It marks the first systematic study [...] to unveil the situation and profound psychological trauma suffered by the children of human rights defenders in an environment of state violence.
Zhou Fengsuo, Executive Director of Human Rights in China (HRIC), who has long provided humanitarian aid to the families of human rights defenders (HRDs), stated that under the reality of authoritarian rule and high-pressure politics, the children of Chinese HRDs are often forced to endure the associative harm resulting from the persecution of their parents: their education is interrupted, their daily lives lose stability, and their psychological sense of security is repeatedly shattered.
The associated repression by state violence that these children suffer is akin to the barbaric ancient system of ‘guilt by association'. Because they lack adequate cognitive and defense mechanisms, the scars left by these traumas are often deeper and more difficult for society and the system to recognize.
Key findings:
- Severe Deprivation of the Right to Education: Used as a Tool of Repression. The report found that children in nearly all cases experienced educational interruption or denial. Some were outright rejected by schools due to their parents’ identity, others faced forced displacement and multiple transfers, and some were publicly shamed as “children of political prisoners” by teachers and peers in the classroom. The education system, meant to ensure equal development, has been weaponized for political persecution.
- Widespread Mental Health Crisis: Self-Harm and Suicidal Ideation. Multiple children and adolescents exhibited severe symptoms like depression, anxiety, insomnia, and hypervigilance. Furthermore, some reached a point where “they sought ‘liberation’ by abandoning life,” resulting in documented cases of self-harm and attempted suicide. Prolonged exposure to high-pressure, fear-inducing environments prevents them from achieving normal identity formation and socialization during adolescence, posing severe risks for their adulthood.
- Frequent Fragmentation of Family Structure. In the majority of cases, one or both parents were subjected to long-term imprisonment, restriction of freedom, or forced exile. Children lost their primary attachment figures during critical developmental stages, relying on single parents or fragmented kinship care. This chronic separation led to severe attachment disorders and a pervasive sense of insecurity.
- Continuation and Silencing of Intergenerational Trauma. The parents’ fear, shame, and powerlessness are often transmitted to their children through emotional atmosphere and behavioral patterns, forming a “silent legacy.” Some children even normalize torture and humiliation, prematurely adopting the role of “protecting their parents,” thereby losing the safety and freedom of childhood through premature adultification.
- Exile Abroad: Not an End, But a New Predicament. While some children were fortunate enough to leave China, they faced new difficulties abroad: language barriers, cultural isolation, identity anxiety, economic hardship, and the persistence of trauma responses. Exile marks a relative start to safety but simultaneously represents a continuation of isolation and compounded adversity.
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Hackers can steal 2FA codes and private messages from Android phones
Hackers can steal 2FA codes and private messages from Android phones
Malicious app required to make “Pixnapping” attack work requires no permissions.Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)
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Three Dead After Powerful Earthquake Strikes Southern Philippines
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/09/world/asia/philippines-mindanao-earthquake.html
Trump suggests throwing ‘laggard’ Spain out of NATO
Donald Trump has reportedly suggested that Spain’s membership in the Nato alliance should be reconsidered due to its insufficient military spending.
The intervention follows an agreement in June where members of the US-backed security pact committed to significantly boosting their defence budgets to 5 per cent of gross domestic product. The move aligns with President Trump’s long-standing demand for European nations to contribute more substantially to their own defence.
But Spanish prime minister Pedro Sanchez said at the time that he would not commit to the 5 per cent target, calling it “incompatible with our welfare state and our world vision”.
Trump suggests throwing ‘laggard’ Spain out of NATO
Spain reaffirmed its commitment to the alliance and appealed for calmJeff Mason (The Independent)
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The intervention follows an agreement in June where members of the US-backed security pact committed to significantly boosting their defence budgets to 5 per cent of gross domestic product.
This makes it sound like it was some kind of done deal, but that's not how I remember it; more like a suggestion, basically as it's been until now only 2% more? please correct me if I remember wrong.
Trump has been ranting and raving about this ever since 2016, making all sorts of weird demands, calling it debt etc.
Belgium PM was target of foiled jihadi attack plot
Belgium PM was target of foiled jihadi attack plot
Prosecutors said an improvised explosive device was found in the home of one of the suspects in the Belgian city of Antwerp.Jenipher Camino Gonzalez (Deutsche Welle)
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Probably more likely to be a plot by far-right fascists to increase their own voter base!
Remember: they want you to live in fear.
De Wever is far-right himself. He played the long con into getting elected as mayor of Antwerp to pave his way into becoming prime minister. Before he was elected he used indirect racism - the kind where you say you respect them but you want to be respected back by disallowing hajibs kind of bullshit - to get elected as mayor. As soon as he was mayor he started "helping out" the minorities. And he actually was successful. He dropped a lot of his prejudice and seemingly racist standpoints. Many people respected him for this. Right up until he became prime minister and started fucking over the people like it was his goal all along. Anti immigration and anti low-class now look like his main goal again.
So no, he has far more enemies within the religious context as well as the anti fascist context than with other right wing grifters.
Your body your choice.
See? I didnt feel the need to create a police state that will eventually consume us all. Dont want to do the drug? Dont do it.
Democrats seem to understand that for other things, yet for some reason that doesn't translate to drug use. No, marijuana legalization will not end the war on drugs. Good thing the dems have the republicans to make them look good!
The addiction destroying our country is the addiction to licking boot polish.
Putin admits Russian air defences were to blame for Azerbaijani jet crash
Putin admits Russian air defences were to blame for Azerbaijani jet crash
Russian president said air defences were targeting a Ukrainian droneGuardian staff reporter (The Guardian)
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Afghanistan accuses Pakistan of 'violating Kabul's sovereign territory'
Afghanistan accuses Pakistan of 'violating Kabul's sovereign territory'
The allegation by the Taliban came after two loud blasts were heard in the city late on Thursday.Hafizullah Mahroof, Caroline Davies and Flora Drury (BBC News)
Strong 7.4 magnitude quake hits southern Philippines
Strong 7.4 magnitude earthquake hits southern Philippines
One person has died from Friday's earthquake, which comes a week after a deadly quake hit the island of Cebu.Koh Ewe (BBC News)
Get ready to be bombed by ChatGPT
It was no ordinary drone either, he discovered. Assisted by artificial intelligence, this unmanned aerial vehicle can find and attack targets on its own.Unlike other models, it didn't send or receive any signals, so could not be jammed.
The new AI arms race changing the war in Ukraine
Both Ukraine and Russia use AI in battle, but removing human decision-making comes with risks.Abdujalil Abdurasulov (BBC News)
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His company DevDroid makes remotely controlled machine guns, that use AI to automatically detect people and track them. Because of concerns over friendly fire, he says they don't have an automatic shooting option."We can enable it, but we need to get more experience and more feedback from the ground forces in order to understand when it is safe to use this feature."
That's some real Dr. Strangelove logic in the wild. Can't let robots kill people until it's safe.
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We keep spending most our lives living
in a socialist paradise
Read theory once or twice
in a socialist paradise
Those train stations look almost too nice
in a socialist paradise
Japan's governing coalition collapses
Japan's governing coalition collapses
The junior partner in government, Komeito, quit the alliance on Friday, putting in peril Sanae Takaichi's bid to become the country's first woman prime minister.Le Monde with AFP (Le Monde)
Is that dude super tall or are the elevators there really short?
Edit: the Internet tells me standard elevators doors in Japan are between 6'7"-6'11" tall.
Ecuador deploys army in capital to deal with intensifying indigenous protests
Ecuador deploys army in capital to deal with intensifying indigenous protests
Three thousand soldiers have been called in to contain protests against rising diesel prices led by the Confederation of Indigenous Nationalities of Ecuador, which is threatening to occupy Quito.Le Monde with AFP (Le Monde)
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in reply to supersquirrel • • •From a long term environmental standpoint that's not at all clear cut.
We objectively have too many humans in our biosphere for our current rate of resource consumption and we should significantly drop the overall number.
However, our current standard of living is mostly the result of a shared economy where we pool and share our resources and have a shit ton of people working.
Right now neural network algorithms consume a lot of processing power and resources, but they also solve whole new classes of automations problems that computers haven't been able to solve before.
If we actually want to maintain our standard of living and reduce the population size, we may very well need AI automation utilities. They can keep scaling down in size and power consumption in the way that a real human can't.
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in reply to masterspace • • •Stop this ecofascist shit.
We can support the current population, it's just not profitable or popular to do so.
Birthrates naturally level off as societies develop. Many are already seeing negative growth.
Our current standard of living is mostly predicated on offshoring the suffering and waste to the global South, but even that could be comfortably leveled off if we weren't living under Capitalism.
We don't need large AI farms, we need empathy. The techbros will not save us.
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in reply to Soggy • • •If your solution ignores the nature of human psychology it's not a solution, it's a quixotic quest.
Yes, and as their standard of living rises to meet ours, the whole human output becomes increasingly unsustainable.
There is a more plausible path for neural networks to be involved in climate change solutions then their is for you to replace capitalism.
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in reply to masterspace • • •Lmao no
I'm sure that if AI could get to the state where it could even approach maybe doing those things, it will mesh very well with capitalism and we'd all benefit collectively. One of the core tenants of capitalism.
I hope someone drops you on your head again
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in reply to Whostosay • • •capitalism works by extracting surplus value from workers so the owner class can have it.
surplus value can't be extracted from technology, it can only make workers more efficient cost for cost.
we don't own the datacenters, therefore it won't ever be making value to us.
Whostosay
in reply to ☂️- • • •Surplus value cannot be extracted from technology? I guess if you mean directly.
Every technological advancement has been used to to create more value that workers produce that gets stolen by the owner class, so through the transitive property, 100% percent of the value created by technology is stolen from the people actually using the technology to produce the value.
We've had insane technology breakthroughs that have made the value we produce skyrocket, and we're in the negative, by a shit ton.
Also those data centers would be classified under "means of production" and in an actual socialistic or communistic economy would be under the control of the people and would then produce value for us.
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in reply to Whostosay • • •i literally said this.
Whostosay
in reply to ☂️- • • •Edited that comment while you were reading.
Yeah I know that, but you also said this:
Nuance is important.
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in reply to masterspace • • •my brother in christ what are you saying? you know that rich people are the biggest polluters?
you know how ai datacenters literally destroy our planet? and for what? these supposed automation tasks will not serve us. we will have mass poverty and more wealth concentrated into the hands of a habdful of tech bros. it's the industrial revolution all over again.
the global south is suffering from our actions. and how do you define living standards? do you think a capital slave that works in deadly conditions will be happy becase now they have an iphone and access to electricity? No. a slave is still a slave.
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in reply to SunSunFuego • • •Yes, and what do you think is happening as other countries rise out of poverty? We have way too many humans on this planet to support everyone having a middle class lifestyle.
Yeah, right now. But if you tried to render 4k videos in 1990 it would also take a full data center and enormous amount of power, but computer chips can do this thing where they get smaller and orders of magnitude more efficient over time, which is how every single phone can do it on 5W of usb power today.
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in reply to Soggy • • •They're the ecofascist yet you're the one saying "you'll shit in the mud and you'll like it".
Birthrates lower partially thanks to higher standard of living, which are not sustainable for 7+ billions people.
Not that I think LLMs are going to help in any way, but every time someone mentions overpopulation, all the counter arguments I see are loads of anti system rhetoric with nothing to show for it.
You think soviet Russia was/current China is sustainable?
Lettuce eat lettuce
in reply to Miaou • • •The earth can easily sustain our current population at a 1st world standard of living, but only if we are orders of magnitude more efficient. That means things like no mass car usage, eco-urbanisn, no more single family homes with quarter acre empty lawns, widespread plant-based foods as the norm, and repairable technology that actually lasts decades instead of planned obsolescence and cheap plastic junk that fills up landfills.
You don't need to be some anarcho-primitivist/Ted Kaczynski wannabe living in a wooden shack with one set of clothes.
Now is that viable in the current societal climate? No, people, especially Americans generally hate much of those eco-urbanist ideas. As long as Capitalism is the default economic system and neo-liberal politics is the default political approach to democracy, we will continue marching towards a consumerist doom.
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in reply to masterspace • • •Theoreticisizing LLM's usefulness and resourcefulness doesn't help you there. For now they are rather useless embaracingly inefficient resoucehogs existing purely because of the bubble. It's a gamble at best, or a waste of resources and a degradation of human workforce at worst.
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in reply to altkey (he\him) • • •supersquirrel
in reply to masterspace • • •masterspace
in reply to supersquirrel • • •arstechnica.com/science/2024/1…
I don't have to dream, DeepMind literally won the Nobel prize last year. My best friend did his PhD in protein crystallography and it took him 6 years to predict the structure of a single protein underlying legionnaires disease. He's now at MIT and just watched DeepMind predict hundreds of thousands of them in a year.
If you vet your news sources by only listening to ones that are anti-AI then you're going to miss the actual exciting advancements lurking beneath the oceans of tech bro hype.
Protein structure and design software gets the Chemistry Nobel
John Timmer (Ars Technica)supersquirrel
in reply to masterspace • • •You need to take a step back and realize how warped your perception of reality has gotten.
Sure LLMs and other forms of automation, artificial intelligence and brute forcing of scientific problems will continute to grow.
What you are talking about though is extrapolating from that to a massive shift that just isn't on the horizon. You are delusional, you have read too many scifi books about AI and can't get your brain off of that way of thinking being the future no matter how dystopian it is.
The value to AI just simply isn't there, and that is before you even include the context of the ecological holocaust it is causing and enabling by getting countries all over the world to abandon critical carbon footprint reduction goals.
Don't come at me like you are being logical here, at least admit that this is the cool scifi tech dystopia you wanted and have been obsessed with. This is the only way you get to this point of delusion since the rest of us see these technologies and go "huh, that looks like it has some use" whereas people like you have what is essentially a religious view towards AI and it is pathetic and offensive towards religions that actually have substance to their philosophy and beliefs from my perspective.
The rich are using the gullibility of people like you to pump and dump entire economies you fool.
Edit I am not sure why I wrote this like you might actually take a step back, you won't, this message is really for everyone else to help emphasize how we are having the interests of the entire earth derailed by the advent of a shitty religion and its mindless disciples. The sooner the rest of us get on the same page, the sooner we can resist people like you and keep your rigid broken worldviews from destroying our futures.
masterspace
in reply to supersquirrel • • •You seem to be projecting about warped perspective.
That's not brute forcing of a scientific problem, it's literally a new type of algorithm that lets computers solve fuzzy pattern matching problems that they never could before.
I'm just very aware of the number of problems in society that fall into the category of fuzzy pattern matching / optimization. Quantum computing is also an exciting avenue for solving some of these problems though is incredibly difficult and complicated.
This is just childish name calling.
Quite frankly, you're conflating the tech bro hype around LLMs with AI more generally. The ecological footprint of Alpha Fold is tiny compared to previous methods of protein analysis that took labs of people years to discover each individual one. On top of the ecological footprint of all of those people and all of their resources for those years, they also have to use high powered equipment like centrifuges and x-ray machines. Alpha fold did that hundreds of thousands of times with some servers in a year.
Again, more childish name calling. You don't know me, don't act like you do.
supersquirrel
in reply to masterspace • • •I am treating you like a child because you refuse to use your brain.
You gave me one obscure very early stage example that isn't even connected to the overall rise in value of LLMs and other forms of AI that has created an economic bubble worse than the dotcom bubble. So you are claiming the next real AI revolution is justtttt around the corner with a totally new technology you swear?
Maybe?
What I do know for sure is you are far more interested in that maybe than you are in actually engaging with the existential real world problems we are facing right now...
masterspace
in reply to supersquirrel • • •No you're doing so because you started doom scrolling before you had coffee and now you're trying to justify your uncalled for rudeness.
It literally won the nobel prize.
It is not early stage, predicting the structures of those proteins has already actively changed the course of biomedical science. This isn't early stage research that need fleshing out, this is peer reviewed published research that has caused entire labs and teams to completely change what they're doing and how.
It is in that it uses the same underlying type of algorithms and is literally from the same team that developed the "T" in ChatGPT.
I have not claimed that, I said that AI algorithms are likely to be part of our climate solutions and our ability to serve more people with less manual labour. They help to solve entirely new classes of problems and can do so far more efficiently than years of human labour.
Rage out about tech bubbles and hype bros if you want. Last time it was crypto, streaming before that, apps and mobile before that, social before that, the internet before that, etc etc. Hype bubbles come and go, sometimes the underlying technology is actually useful though.
supersquirrel
in reply to masterspace • • •hahaha like AI will be a part of climate solutions are you serious right now?
Y'all are incapable of understanding expertise in your domain does not make you an expert in everything else, there is no way anyone in the industry you are speaking about will listen to climatologists and environmental scientists long enough to even begin to be helpful.
You keep talking about technology, when this is really a discussion about the catastrophic myopia of the tech industry of which you are making yourself a perfect example of.
goldmansachs.com/insights/arti…
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quantamagazine.org/how-ai-revo…
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/…
^ this is NOT the scientific method and it undermines the scientific integrity of the entire process
understandingai.org/p/i-got-fo…
scilifelab.se/news/alphafold3-…
reddit.com/r/biotech/comments/…
reddit.com/r/Biochemistry/comm…
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reddit.com/r/labrats/comments/…
I got fooled by AI-for-science hype—here's what it taught me
Nick McGreivy (Understanding AI)masterspace
in reply to supersquirrel • • •You keep saying y'all and it's telling.
Learn how to communicate with people, not the simplified boxes you put them in.
When you're ready to have a conversation instead of just hearing yourself regurgitate mindless internet grandstanding I'm here.
Tollana1234567
in reply to masterspace • • •masterspace
in reply to Tollana1234567 • • •"hur durr AI bad"
Read the fucking link. It literally won the Nobel prize.
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in reply to masterspace • • •masterspace
in reply to ☂️- • • •☂️-
in reply to masterspace • • •if it's anything other than meritocratic, then by definition it is not.
it's like saying there's free speech, but only a select group of people can have it.
masterspace
in reply to ☂️- • • •☂️-
in reply to masterspace • • •likewise, if you bend words to mean what you want them to mean we don't have much reason to even be discussing it.
if something doesn't get primarily awarded by merit, it's simply not meritocratic.
masterspace
in reply to ☂️- • • •Lmao, it's binary cause you say it's binary.
Bro grow up. The world is not black and white. Literally not a single award on the planet is meritocratic if you insist on dealing in absolutes. Every award is awarded by some committee and there is some room left for human judgement, which leaves room for human bias, which makes it not perfectly meritocratic.
If you want to go an unhinged rant that no one wants to listen to then email the nobel association directly, don't waste federated server time.
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in reply to masterspace • • •no, because it's literally what it is, words have meaning. that's quite a lot of mental gymnastics and insults to defend the legitimacy of a prize that goes to war hawks and fascists for a while now.
it's being used to push for pretty evil politics right now and should not be taken seriously for that reason. however the fuck you want to define the words i'm trying to use to describe it.
i'm also not wasting any more of my time here.
masterspace
in reply to ☂️- • • •☂️-
in reply to masterspace • • •masterspace
in reply to ☂️- • • •And your point is wrong because you keep boiling it down to simple black and white.
The Nobel prize is not purely political and is not devoid of merit.
The world is not full of binary systems. It's made of multi variable systems where multiple influences can be true at the same time.
If you want to make a point about why accurately predicting the structure of hundreds of thousands of proteins doesn't deserve the Nobel in chemistry then I'm all ears. Please tell us all exactly why you think their prize was political and not meritocratic, and why predicting protein structures automatically is not important?
Because if you can't answer that very specific question, then you weren't making a point relevant to the conversation, you were making a snide generalization to hear yourself speak.
tjsauce
in reply to masterspace • • •Most people are cool with some AI when you show the small, non-plagarative stuff. It sucks that "AI" is such a big umbrella term, but the truth is that the majority of AI (measured in model size, usage, and output volume) is bad and should stop.
Neural Network technology should not progress at the cost of our environment, short term or long term, and shouldn't be used to dilute our collective culture and intelligence. Let's not pretend that the dangers aren't obvious and push for regulation.
altkey (he\him)
in reply to masterspace • • •masterspace
in reply to altkey (he\him) • • •To be fair, that's because there are a lot of automation situations where having semantic understanding of a situation can be extremely helpful in guiding action over a ML model that is not semantically aware.
The reason that AI video generation and out painting is so good for instance it that it's analyzing a picture and dividing it into human concepts using language and then using language to guide how those things can realistically move and change, and then applying actual image generation. Stuff like Waymo's self driving systems aren't being run through LLMs but they are machine learning models operating on extremely similar principles to build a semantic understanding of the driving world.
altkey (he\him)
in reply to masterspace • • •masterspace
in reply to altkey (he\him) • • •You don't have to argue that, I think thats inarguably true. But more complexity doesn't inherently mean worse.
Automatic braking and collision avoidance systems in cars add complexity, but they also objectively make cars safer. Same with controls on the steering wheel, they add complexity because you now often have two places for things to be controlled and increasingly have to rely on drive by wire systems, but HOTAS interfaces (Hands On Throttle And Stick) help to keep you focused on the road and make the overall system of driving safer. While semantic modelling and control systems absolutely can make things less safe, if done well they can also actually let a robot or machine act in more human ways (like detecting that they're injuring someone and stopping for instance).
But in this case, Waymo is still having to do that. They're still running their sensor data through incredibly complex machine learning models that are somewhat black boxes and producing semantic understandings of the world around it, and then act on those models of the world. The primary difference with Waymo and Tesla isn't about complexity or direct control of systems, but that Tesla is relying on camera data which is significantly worse than the human eye / brain, whereas Waymo and everyone else is supplementing their limited camera data with sensors like Lidar and Sonar that can see in ways and situations humans can't and that lets them compensate.
That and that Waymo is actually a serious engineering company that takes responsibility seriously, takes far fewer risks, and is far more thorough about failure analysis, redundancy, etc.
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in reply to SkaraBrae • • •The ones advocating for corporate greed and AI are the same ones talking about a birth rate crisis. I guess they just want more proles to slave for them and damn the ones who die young in the process.
Fuck this timeline
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in reply to Lucidlethargy • • •It's doing a shit job at replacing people, it's still too prone to hallucinating for the vast majority of its applications.
In many of the applications where AI has replaced people the promised performance gains never materialized because of the insane amount of babysitting a LLM agent requires.
Doesn't matter if it can write 10 hours of code in 5 minutes if you still need a software dev to troubleshoot the output for 25 hours.
They have like 90% reliability (figure pulled directly from my ass) but they need 99.99% reliability to actually be effectively reliable.
They've burned through all their hype and still haven't made it reliable yet. I think they're not going to get it done before the bubble collapses.
It'll be similar to the dotcom boom, infinite hype implosion collapses the market to a few core players and then those core players will get there over the next 15 years.
Isn't going to disappear but it's absolutely going to fade into the background of day to day life.
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in reply to cyrano • • •like this
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in reply to slaacaa • • •null_dot
in reply to cyrano • • •It doesn't make any difference whether they use coal, nuclear, or renewables.
If they were using renewables the rest of us would need the coal generated power to keep the lights on.
Tetsuo
in reply to null_dot • • •And the nuclear ?
You skipped it somehow.
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null_dot
in reply to Tetsuo • • •you seem to have missed my point.
If humanity's energy requirements without AI are x, and AI's requirements are an additional y, then AI is reponsible for the worst energy sources up to the value of y.
Tetsuo
in reply to null_dot • • •null_dot
in reply to Tetsuo • • •What ?
I didn't "discard" it, it's just not a pertinent inclusion. I also didn't mention geothermal power, or wheelbarrows.
It doesn't matter what type of power is plugged into data centres. Turning them off would reduce coal power consumption.
Tetsuo
in reply to null_dot • • •I live in a country that produces 70+% of its energy through nuclear reactors.
Sure we are definitely an exception but turning off datacenters where I live wouldn't change anything about coal.
To be clear I'm not advocating for nuclear energy nor am I saying it's a bad option.
Every country has a different energy mix, some more "carbon efficient" than others let's say but it is not only revolving about coal and renewables.
Anyway, I think it's fairly clear to me the datacenters won't shutdown anytime soon even without AI it's gonna be a major consumption of energy in any country. So I think nuclear should definitely at least considered as an option and to some extent be part of any energy mix. I think everyone knows that only renewables is not really a realistic scenario. Coal obviously is the worst option in any amount. So yeah, I was surprised that you didn't mention it that's it. I do think it's very much relevant to the topic of the ever increasing energy consumption we are all gonna face in the future. This post would probably not even exist if we shutdown datacenters but I suppose you meant it as shutting down only processing power toward AI. But still we will need more datacenters in the future no matter what.
null_dot
in reply to Tetsuo • • •Seefra 1
in reply to null_dot • • •Exactly, people don't seem to realise that higher demand for energy means higher demand for all sources of energy including fussil fuels.
If doesn't matter if this datacenter runs 100% on renewables if that means that the overall demand on the powergrid increases and now other clients that used to get (a higher percentage of) their power from renewable are getting it from coal, it's just a green washing shift blame technique.
JohnEdwa
in reply to null_dot • • •There's one exception - when they are self-sufficient, or even net positive, with renewables.
One example is the Google datacenter in Hamina, Finland. They build it in an old unused paper mill, built their own renewables (3/4ths of their required at this point), and they use the cooling loop for district heating for the city.
That extra heat provides around 75% of the required heating, meaning the city could stop relying on their old natural gas heaters so now the district heating runs on renewables as well.
It's easy to be an energy neutral datacenter, simply pour enough money to building new renewables that wouldn't have been built without your contributions, and you don't tax the power grid.
Hamina, Finland – Google Data Center Location
Google Data Centersnull_dot
in reply to JohnEdwa • • •I'll begrudgingly concede that this is a good point.
Part of me wants to say "just force these assholes to build renewables without the datacentres" but I know that's nonsensical.
I guess this is how carbon credit schemes are intended to work, but I'm aware that aside from a few specific cases carbon trading has just been a way to obfuscate carbon emissions.
a4ng3l
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in reply to cyrano • • •like this
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nosuchanon
in reply to madsen • • •AI and the investment around it are literally the only thing holding up America’s economy right now. If you take the artificial growth and the vast amounts of investment that are being pumped in AI development data centers, the US economy has barely grown half percentage point.
No surprise that they are going to power this beast at all costs until it falls apart along with the US economy.
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AA5B
in reply to nosuchanon • • •I mean, they could use their fascist power grab to drive through the infrastructure work to expand power transmission lines needed to support a modern economy, renewables, and yes more datacenters
Additional coal is just the easiest way since we already have century old power lines bringing that power where it’s needed
Yes, in this case, coal might be easiest, cheapest, fastest because we can continue to neglect infrastructure. It’ll fall apart on someone else’s administration
nosuchanon
in reply to AA5B • • •Typical. So basically, they’re gonna turn America into Texas. Their power grid is famously shitty and has been neglected for decades due to Republican control of the government. They are constantly kicking the can down the road for some other administration to deal with it.
Everyone time there’s even a slight dusting of snow anywhere in Texas the power grid shuts off and people freeze to death. But Texas refuses to fix the power grid and nationalize because it would mean investing and bringing their shitty substandard power grid up to modern standards.
lazynooblet
in reply to madsen • • •FlashMobOfOne
in reply to lazynooblet • • •Sadly, yes.
balance8873
in reply to lazynooblet • • •All of these problems are caused by a remarkably small network of people. I'm not even necessarily talking about the CEOs. It's the boards of directors. This is also the pool from which CEOs are drawn one and the pool to which CEOs return after their golden parachute. They function as a living repository of evil. A warehouse of criminals and nepo-babies. (Ex: Airbnb guy joined DOGE and is on teslas board. So first he destroys the housing market for a generation, and then destroys the government, and he is the person who directs Tesla.)
Like, the network is so small it could fit in one big room.
UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to lazynooblet • • •If it makes you feel any better, our '01, '08, '14, and '20 recessions all put hard downward pressure on carbon emissions.
If Trump manages to throw us into the first full blown Depression in a century, he may do more to curb US emissions than any president in history.
ProdigalFrog
in reply to lazynooblet • • •There's still time for a general strike. The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor. That tactic , and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would've had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.
If you aren't in a union (or even if you are, it's worth dual-carding), please consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you'll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to strengthen a general strike if we manage to enact one.
And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn't listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above.
Also @FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world
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in reply to lazynooblet • • •Reminds me of this song. Carbon based lifeforms. World of sleepers
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www.youtube.comFlowVoid
in reply to cyrano • • •Datacenter != AI
If you are using the internet for anything with cloud storage, you are contributing to datacenter growth. And that includes nearly everyone using social media.
kcuf
in reply to FlowVoid • • •balance8873
in reply to FlowVoid • • •Yes but data center growth prior to AI was manageable. There isn't a grid on the planet (except maybe china?) which can support the growth of AI data centers.
These people have to plan energy needs on a 10-20 year life cycle, not 2. It's the 2 that's the problem.
SocialMediaRefugee
in reply to balance8873 • • •balance8873
in reply to SocialMediaRefugee • • •I thought they were totally just using flare gas and renewables ;) 🙄
But my understanding for real is that ai data centers are just the same hardware as buttcoin but more of it and organized. The venture capitalists finally got what they wanted, blowing their wad on Nvidia.
Tollana1234567
in reply to balance8873 • • •humanspiral
in reply to Tollana1234567 • • •SocialMediaRefugee
in reply to FlowVoid • • •betanumerus
in reply to FlowVoid • • •UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to FlowVoid • • •Except the demand for new data centers is driven entirely by the capacity constraints of the current AI models.
"Why are you mad at my five ton diseal SUV when you just adopted a pet chihuahua? They both emit carbon!"
FlowVoid
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to FlowVoid • • •You're comparing mountains to molehills. That's before you consider improvements in storage and compression relative to demands for space, or the degree to which our storage capacity "needs" are predicated on the voracious appetite of AI models and their unwanted output. Or, for that matter, the inefficient distribution of data and proliferation of spam data that predates it.
Most US Growth Now Rides on AI—And Economists Suspect a Bubble
The expansion in demand is entirely being driven by the expansion in AI capacity.
Yahoo fait partie de la famille de marques Yahoo.
finance.yahoo.comFlowVoid
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •That article doesn't say what you imply it does. Companies may be using ChatGPT to grow, but that doesn't mean they are training AIs.
And the distinction is critical to energy usage. Training a new AI uses a lot of energy. Querying an existing AI uses far less.
UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to FlowVoid • • •It's the MAG7 that's driving growth. And they're all fixated on training AI in some capacity
It costs $5 for each 10s video generation, based on Azure's published rates for the first Sora model.
That's presumably a lot of energy.
Azure OpenAI Service - Pricing | Microsoft Azure
azure.microsoft.comFlowVoid
in reply to UnderpantsWeevil • • •The MAG7 operate large and growing cloud services, so their datacenter costs would grow even without any AI training.
And charging $5 for a video query does not mean the query uses $5 of energy. The query is priced to recoup training costs that were already incurred.
acargitz
in reply to cyrano • • •Meanwhile China is going all in on renewables.
Here is a fact: an authoritarian non-democracy is doing a lot for securing the future of humanity, while the "leader of the free world" are vandalizing the climate and accelerating apocalyptic climate catastrophe.
In 2025, China is a net positive for the future of humanity, while the USA is a net negative.
If that makes you uncomfortable about what our political and economic systems in the West that brought us here, well, you know the meme: "facts don't care about your feelings".
If you, like me, care about the future of democracy, we have to do a LOT of digging.
SocialMediaRefugee
in reply to acargitz • • •UnderpantsWeevil
in reply to acargitz • • •BUT
AT
WHAT
COST
It might be cold comfort, but none of these business models have the liquidity behind them to build out coal power at the levels they claim they'll need.
Nevermind that solar/wind would be cheaper. Or that the raw manpower to yield coal in quantity no longer exists. So much of these proposals are - at their heart - the same vaporware that promised waves of new nuclear construction and hydro-power and geothermal.
Bottom line is that GenAI's primary revenue comes from dumb VC and bad debt. They can't build, much less operate, any of this shit.
neighbourbehaviour
in reply to acargitz • • •Corridor8031
in reply to neighbourbehaviour • • •which feels more like a dictatorship/ feudalism
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in reply to cyrano • • •Hey, regime 🖕
(Just expressing what is left to express here)
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in reply to cyrano • • •DegenerationIP
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in reply to DegenerationIP • • •Anakin-Marc Zaeger
in reply to Regrettable_incident • • •"Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you!" - Londo Mollari
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in reply to cyrano • • •We were too addicted to AI slop to save ourselves.
Actually no, no one was addicted to AI slop, it was just shoved into every product so that huge companies could make a profit and everyone hates it.
But wait! The huge companies are losing tons money on this.
Why did we destroy the planet again????
Tollana1234567
in reply to sgtgig • • •sobchak
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in reply to sgtgig • • •Wish my coworkers would get the memo. Constantly trying to shove AI videos in my face like "haha look at MLK Jr and Tupac as pro wrestling announcers haha"
As an artist I am deeply repulsed by AI. But other people around me? They love it for some reason.
Cryptagionismisogynist
in reply to cyrano • • •Earth was past 7 of 9 planetary boundaries to support human life.... before AI happened. That is again, boundaries to support HUMAN LIFE.
Article from when it was 6/9:
scientificamerican.com/article…
Humans Have Crossed 6 of 9 'Planetary Boundaries'
Meghan Bartels (Scientific American)betanumerus
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in reply to Duamerthrax • • •humanspiral
in reply to betanumerus • • •People get distracted over the fate of the pure speculative frenzy could be an AI bubble, and the harm to the hapless speculators and banksters could have a minor impact on the rest of the economy.
Reality is far worse than an AI bubble. It is a US mission for a fossil fueled powered Skynet for Israel that is too big to fail. Bubble in AI investments becomes unlikely, but total destruction of rest of US economy/prosperity becomes assured when the "plebs able to eat in America bubble" bursts is a sacrifice that a fossil fueled powered Skynet for Israel is willing to make.
If Americans are still able to afford to eat, then China or Iran wins.