Flights disrupted after Airbus discovers intense sun radiation could impact flight control data
If anyone has an article with more technical details on what the solar radiation did, and how they're going to patch it, I'd like to read about it 😀
Airbus said it discovered the issue after an investigation into an incident in which a plane flying between the US and Mexico suddenly lost altitude in October.The JetBlue Airways flight made an emergency landing in Florida after at least 15 people were injured.
The problem identified with A320 aircrafts relates to a piece of computing software which calculates a plane's elevation.
Airbus discovered that, at high altitudes, its data could be corrupted by intense radiation released periodically by the Sun.
The A320 family are what is known as "fly by wire" planes. This means there is no direct mechanical link between the controls in the cockpit and the parts of the aircraft that actually govern flight, with the pilot's actions processed by a computer.
Flights disrupted after Airbus discovers intense sun radiation could impact flight control data
If anyone has an article with more technical details on what the solar radiation did, and how they're going to patch it, I'd love to read it :)Airbus said it discovered the issue after an investigation into an incident in which a plane flying between the US and Mexico suddenly lost altitude in October.The JetBlue Airways flight made an emergency landing in Florida after at least 15 people were injured.
The problem identified with A320 aircrafts relates to a piece of computing software which calculates a plane's elevation.
Airbus discovered that, at high altitudes, its data could be corrupted by intense radiation released periodically by the Sun.
The A320 family are what is known as "fly by wire" planes. This means there is no direct mechanical link between the controls in the cockpit and the parts of the aircraft that actually govern flight, with the pilot's actions processed by a computer.
Airbus requests immediate modifications to thousands of aircraft
About 6,000 plans are thought to be affected, about half the European aerospace giant's global fleet.Theo Leggett (BBC News)
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Flights disrupted after Airbus discovers intense sun radiation could impact flight control data
If anyone has an article with more technical details on what the solar radiation did, and how they're going to patch it, I'd love to read it 😀
Airbus said it discovered the issue after an investigation into an incident in which a plane flying between the US and Mexico suddenly lost altitude in October.The JetBlue Airways flight made an emergency landing in Florida after at least 15 people were injured.
The problem identified with A320 aircrafts relates to a piece of computing software which calculates a plane's elevation.
Airbus discovered that, at high altitudes, its data could be corrupted by intense radiation released periodically by the Sun.
The A320 family are what is known as "fly by wire" planes. This means there is no direct mechanical link between the controls in the cockpit and the parts of the aircraft that actually govern flight, with the pilot's actions processed by a computer.
Airbus requests immediate modifications to thousands of aircraft
About 6,000 plans are thought to be affected, about half the European aerospace giant's global fleet.Theo Leggett (BBC News)
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Man who rushed at Ariana Grande deported to Australia, barred from re-entering Singapore: ICA
Man who rushed at Ariana Grande deported to Australia, barred from re-entering Singapore: ICA
Johnson Wen had been given nine days' jail on November 17. Read more at straitstimes.com.Christine Tan (ST)
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He is known for disrupting several international events, such as Katy Perry’s Sydney concert in June and the men’s 100m final at the 2024 Paris Olympics.
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Trump’s Peace Plan for Ukraine, Annotated [gift link]
Trump has said he wants Ukraine to agree to a 28-point peace plan by Thanksgiving. The problem for Kyiv is that many of the points cross their red lines and reflect demands long made by Moscow. The Kremlin has said it wasn’t consulted on the plan.Here’s a breakdown of some of the key points in the plan and how Ukraine and its European allies might respond.
Archive: archive.today/CQyLC
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Airbus A320 – intense solar radiation may corrupt data critical for flight
Airbus update on A320 Family precautionary fleet action
Analysis of a recent event involving an A320 Family aircraft has revealed that intense solar radiation may corrupt data critical. Read more.Airbus
!@$& Homelab Networking
LOL Not really, but boy it has been a day. Started at 7:00 am and I finally resolved (?) the issue. In fact I've got through every last bit of my network, and at this point in the evening, I actually don't have a solid reason why the issue was present. Something in my VPN settings glitched, or something got triggered on pFsense and got hung up....something, something with Tailscale. It wasn't CLoudflare this time. LOL
You ever do so much to a problem that when you 'fix' it, you have no real idea what the fix truly was? You ever have a problem and find all the shit you cobbled together in the name of 'just get it running and back online'? I did, and decided that I would fix that shit too. It took all flippin' day.
You guys that do this for a living....I salute you! jebus crispies!
ETA: 8 bells and all's well today.
When you do it for work, you log what you have changed each time you make a change to try to fix it, and you log what you revert, so you can keep track of what you have tried, what worked, and what didn't and have a clearer idea of what the solution was.
Sometimes it really does take a while to nail down though, and sometimes it isn't entirely clear why what worked worked. Especially if you're a junior network engineer without as much experience.
Yeah, same here ! Can't believe how useful it is to have a git repo to keep track of changes, even as a non coder/sysadmin.
Simple pull/push commands and I'm now able to keep track of my bash scripts and specific .dot/config files.
To bad there isn't a way to keep side notes a la Obsidian. Comments in the code are okay, but sometimes I wan't to breakup the whole command with some notes to get a better understanding !
I understand.
I learned again for the nth time that home assistant doesnt like refreshing my cert, and I can't go to the site to refresh the cert unless it has a valid cert...
Maybe I'll fix it tomorrow. It's valid again now.
When I set it up, I did not know better.
Now? Inertia. Nginx already does it for other things, I haven't bothered to move home assistant over because home assistant works ( all but one days in a cycle)
“So what was the problem in the end?”
“Man, I don’t fucking know.”
- me, every goddamn time
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Me with Windows issues.
Was it a Windows update?
Was it the release upgrade (e.g. 24H2 -> 25H2)?
Was it the restart?
Was it a driver update?
Some program specific bug?
And due to bad naming, convoluted or outdated documentation or fucky SEO from spam sites pretending to know the fix that did X or Y...
At least with Linux you sort of can find the specific fix in a release from the merge/commit notes.
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This. If I pay the cost in frustration and anguish and soul-searching and demanding justice from an uncaring god, I want something for it. I want documentation. I want my lessons learned from the post incident review. I want something I can hack into mgmtConfig to make sure nothing else will do that too.
Struggling for no payoff is the absolute worst thing.
I want my suffering to result in something learned so it doesn’t happen again.
Soooo much this. I'm down to learn about technology any day of the week. But when I 'fix' something and I don't know what the 'fix' really was, it is a rush of mixed emotions. I am ecstatic relieved the problem is fixed, but left empty not having learned the 'why it broke' in the first place. And then I'm always fearful that the problem will gestate in my lab and rear it's ugly head again at some other inopportune time.
How I fixed hardware acceleration on my NUC for Jellyfin.
My docs on how to install/enable HuC/GuC:
And to this day I am procrastinating upgrading my main docker host because I can't be bothered to either inplace upgrade my Debian 10 (or 11) to a current release and then fix that I restart my whole journey and sacrifice a whole weekend on fixing my card house of a homelab/home infrastructure....
SnipeIT
I've seen the app rolling around in Awesome Lists, but always thought it was for larger operations with a lot of infrastructure and not necessarily a home lab. I might look into it seriously.
I tried Obsidian, and it is a very capable piece of software. However, I wanted it to run in a docker container. Running in a container, it uses KasmVNC. So, every doccument you wish to save in Obsidian, you first have to paste into KasmVNC's clipboard, then paste it into the doccument. I found that quite clumsy.
If I'm doing it wrong, please share. Obsidian was my first choice.
Sometimes the fix has been done but the effect takes a while. For a cache to age out or a change to propogate. It all depends on what you are working with/on.
Or you made a change but forgot to restart a specific service.
Meanwhile even though you did a fix correctly and aren't aware of it, since it doesn't seem to work you change something else and break it again inadvertently.
Air traffic suspended at Netherlands airport after drone sightings
Air traffic at the Eindhoven airport in the south of the Netherlands has resumed after a suspension that lasted several hours due to multiple drone sightings, the Dutch defence minister has said.Traffic resumed around 11pm (22:00 GMT), Defence Minister Ruben Brekelmans said on Saturday, two hours after he had first reported the disruption.
Separately on Saturday, the Defence Ministry said the Dutch military opened fire at drones over Volkel Air Base in the east of the country on Friday, but no wreckage was recovered.
Security staff at the base reported the drones between 7pm and 9pm on Friday (between 17:00 and 19:00 GMT), prompting the air force to fire ground-based weapons to take them down, the ministry said in a statement.
Air traffic suspended at Netherlands airport after drone sightings
Drone sightings caused suspension of air traffic at Eindhoven airport, impacting both civilian and military operations.Al Jazeera
Seeking Volunteer Podcasters for a New Show under Smarter Minds!
Smarter Minds is a decentralized non-profit group on a mission to create an excellent learning environment that fosters critical thinking, creativity, and personal growth. We’re launching a new podcast aimed at smart conversations that raise awareness about AI psychosis — a mental health concern where excessive use of AI chatbots can cause symptoms like delusions or paranoia in vulnerable people. Our goal is to inform listeners simply and clearly while promoting thoughtful dialogue on this emerging topic.
What we’re looking for:
Volunteer podcasters ready to commit to recording up to 4 episodes a month.
Clear speakers who are comfortable hosting interview or discussion-style episodes.
Interest or experience in psychology, technology, creativity, or mental health is a plus.
Reliable communication and a passion for spreading awareness in an engaging way.
What you’ll do:
Collaborate remotely to create compelling episode content.
Help shape the show’s tone and topics focused on mental health, personal growth & history.
Engage listeners with thoughtful conversations that raise awareness about AI psychosis and more.
How to get involved:
Join our Discord and introduce yourself here:
discord.com/channels/144166550…
Please share a bit about your background, podcasting experience if any, and links to past work or recordings if available.
Let’s create something smart, meaningful, and valuable together!
Discord - Group Chat That’s All Fun & Games
Discord is great for playing games and chilling with friends, or even building a worldwide community. Customize your own space to talk, play, and hang out.Discord
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Four episodes per month is a lot of work.
- Is it supposed to become a paid gig eventually?
- Does the company make any money? Like are you advertising or accepting paid subscriptions, or getting funding of any kind?
I agree with all of what your saying, but how is having a podcast not free? All you need is a way to record audio and somewhere to host it. Basically everyone has a phone, and YouTube and other places are readily available. You don't need a shure microphone to spread your ideas.
Other than that, I fully agree, this is a very odd post by OP.
Home Assistant Connect ZBT-2 - A USB adapter that plugs into your Home Assistant system and opens up a world of smart device options
If anyone bought the previous one, how was it and what do you think about this upgrade?
Excerpts:
The easiest way to start with Zigbee or Thread just got even better, with Home Assistant Connect ZBT-2. This USB adapter plugs into your Home Assistant system and opens up a world of smart device options. Between its precisely tuned antenna and next-generation chip, it’s a big step up for anyone looking to connect Zigbee, Thread, or Matter devices directly to Home Assistant.For all our Zigbee fans, this might be the best upgrade you’ll make all year. We’ve squeezed every inch out of this technology, giving it the best range, speed, and stability possible. The same can be said for our Thread-heads out there (yeah, I just came up with that cool nickname 😎), making Matter or ESPHome Thread
connections rock-solid. Pick whether to dedicate your Connect ZBT-2 to run a Zigbee or Thread network, and it’ll provide the best experience for that protocol (and if all these names just sound like new streaming services to you, check out our explainer below).If you’re one of those people still rocking three different hubs, what are you waiting for… another giant server outage to take down your smart home? Ditch those cloud hubs and take back your privacy today. As an added bonus, your devices will likely get more controls, range, and resilience.
Available today starting at $49 and €45 (that’s the MSRP, and pricing will vary by retailer). Designed and built by Nabu Casa and the Open Home Foundation, every purchase helps fund the development of Home Assistant. For quick specs, details, and where to buy, visit our beautiful Home Assistant Connect ZBT-2 page.
Open Design
When we say open, we mean it. In the physical sense, it’s easy to open Connect ZBT-2 as there are no clips or glue, just some lovely standard Phillips head screws. The board has a gorgeous silkscreen, which explains all the chips, exposed pins, and pads.
The bootloader is unlocked, and all the firmware we build is open source and available to modify. We’ve also built a new website
that makes it easy to flash the stock firmware, and in the future, experiment with new firmware. We’ll also be providing the PCB and outer casing files if you want to tinker with those. Openness makes our products better… literally, since our community helps us find and fix bugs.
The best gets better - Home Assistant Connect ZBT-2
We launch our newest hardware that helps connect Zigbee, Thread, or Matter devices to Home Assistant.Home Assistant
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I bought the ZBT-1 a few months ago. My only complaint is that they made it as a usb stick then said keep it away from the usb port. It did come with an extension cable, so I’ve always had it connected that way. Otherwise, no complaints here. It seems to reach what it needs to. I’m using it for matter over thread devices. The closest thread IoT device is only about six feet away, so it didn’t need to be super strong to connect and control my thread network of devices.
As for the upgraded device:
Moving away from the usb stick makes sense. With that said, I’m not much of a fan for this new design. I don’t have any intentions of getting the zbt-2 anytime soon.
I worked through three zogbee dongles from Amazon including the sonoff one.
Always had issues with my mesh. Upgrading to the one provided by Nabu guys (the v1) fixed them all and it's been almost one year rock solid now. No more disconnection or better devices losing it
In addition to these guys knowing what they are doing and pushing firmware updates straight through Home Assistant, every purchase also supports the Open Home Foundation.
I'm pretty sure you can achieve similar performance with cheaper dongles.
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Was hopeful to get a zigbee and threads coordinator.
Sadly, it’s an „or“ not an „and“.
I need threads support, so I will probably get it anyway. But it’s just an evolution, not a revolution.
On a previous thread, someone pointed to sonoff.tech/en-us/products/son…
Looks like it might support both.
SONOFF Dongle Max Zigbee/Thread PoE Dongle | Dongle-M
Dongle Max is a PoE dongle with EFR32MG24 + ESP32D0WDR2, dual antennas, and USB/TCP support, working as a high-performance gateway for Home Assistant.SONOFF
The bigger benefit for slzb devices is that they are wholly decoupled from the machine running zha/z2m, plus PoE, wifi and BLE proxies are nice features.
The downside is, it's not open hardware.
Yep.
I have a SLZB-06 as a Zigbee coordinator and sometimes it hangs. I can also not do OTA updates. I like the convenience but I’m not sure the hardware and/or firmware are quite there yet.
The smlight slzb-mr2 does both and is PoE - makes it more robust. HA comp goes down? Restarts? USB port change and now the passthrough fails? With an independent LAN coordinator the zigbee network is fine. I don’t have threads stuff (yet) but I assume the same applies.
I’ve had no issues, the Ukrainians already got this solved. Get from Ali express (Ukrainians don’t produce them, they’re busy being bombed)
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So I learned the hard way that the ZBT-2 does not work* in Thread mode in #HomeAssistant when you run it as a Docker container If they didn't want people running HA as a Docker container, then the table in the docs should go into a _little bit_ more…Sebin Nyshkim (meow.social - the meowstodon instance for creatures fluffy, scaly and otherwise)
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You’re right. It seems that you need the "OpenThread Border Router add-on":
home-assistant.io/integrations…
support.nabucasa.com/hc/en-us/…
Thread
Open source home automation that puts local control and privacy first. Powered by a worldwide community of tinkerers and DIY enthusiasts. Perfect to run on a Raspberry Pi or a local server.Home Assistant
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I actually upgraded from a Conbee stick to the official home assistant one to support them... But the official home assistant one is significantly worse.
A few devices like buttons were discovered by the Conbee and worked perfectly fine, but the home assistant refuses to recognize their functionality.
Since I already migrated all my devices, I am not going back, but I would recommend anyone against purchasing the official home assistant sticks. Get the cheaper stuff instead.
buttons were discovered by the Conbee and worked perfectly fine, but the home assistant refuses to recognize their functionality.
That's not the hardware stick; that's the controller software stack. Sounds like you switched from deConz to ZHA to go with the hardware change. In which case, this is all fixed by using Zigbee2MQTT instead of HA's built-in ZHA. Z2M supports more hardware and features than ZHA.
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Why would a USB accessory need PoE?
Zigbee 4 support lacking in it is disappointing.
PoE needs to be more prevalent, IMO. When Smlight came out with the SLZB I jumped on it. Not only does it give me options for where to place it in my house, but it also allows me to make HA more resilient on my Proxmox cluster because it isn't tied to a single node with USB passthru.
I know that this probably is an edge case and that the HA team wants to make things easier with the HA green and HA yellow so USB still makes sense, but if this or the SWA-2 had PoE as an option, it would have been a no brainer.
They are on it:
Home Assistant Connect ZBT-2 supports Zigbee 3.0 (and yes, we’re looking at Zigbee 4.0 support as well) and is keeping pace with Thread’s rapid development.
Being misunderstood
I’m not sure if this is an ADHD related thing so I want some feedback.
For the longest time whenever I try to communicate an idea, a process, a plan, a piece of information … I’m oftentimes either not taken serious or people misunderstand me.
I know for myself that I sometimes skip steps in my explanation because I feel they’re too obvious to bother explaining. But sometimes it’s ridiculous to the point where I feel like people are out to dismiss me not on the basis of the information I’m providing.
Does this resonate with anyone?
Edit: thanks for all the feedback! This has given me some material to work with.
Yeah.
I've been working on this, even started to believe I'd gotten good at it.
And still, I'm sitting here this weekend feeling really worthless because I tried to deal with a group of upset people and they took my efforts to help and attacked, judged and rejected me for it.
And I know all of what went on, I know exactly what I'd say to someone who is where I am right now and it doesn't help me today. I hope I feel better tomorrow.
Oil Producers, but Maybe Not the Planet, Get a Win as Climate Talks End
The final agreement, with no direct mention of the fossil fuels dangerously heating Earth, was a victory for countries like Saudi Arabia and Russia, diplomats said.
The Mamdani-Trump Pact and the bankrupt politics of the upper middle class pseudo-left
The Mamdani-Trump Pact and the bankrupt politics of the upper middle class pseudo-left
The immediate political consequence of Mamdani’s visit will be to confuse and disorient the very people who brought him to office.World Socialist Web Site
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Ah.
"Operations"
Reminds me of when Bill Clinton rebranded his wars as "peacekeeping actions".
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Can we just... not?
Can we address the criminals in the white house instead of any criminals outside of our country? Please?
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Same as it ever was.
Ever wonder how many wars got started because of an embarrassed little man of a tyrant? Unfortunately we’re doomed to repeat the same mistakes, I suppose we’re only human. All this fancy high tech bullshit changed everything but also didn’t change a thing.
Covert operations expected to be first step [...] The United States plans on Monday to designate the Cartel de los Soles a foreign terrorist organization [...] The Trump administration has accused Maduro of leading Cartel de los Soles, [...] Washington in August doubled its reward for information leading to Maduro's arrest to $50 million. But U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth said last week that the terrorist designation "brings a whole bunch of new options to the United States."
... Are they publicly announcing that they're planning to assassinate the head of a foreign government?!
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Exclusive: China to launch new phase of Nepal operations, sources say
Funny how when you say the US is doing something is perfectly normal and acceptable ... disturbing and troubling but still acceptable
But when you change the country name, then the world loses their minds
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DFRobot router board with a CM4
Yep, you're right. I'm watching my ISP upgrade their cable to docsis 4.0 which will allow for 2g down 1g up. Instead of the garbage 1g down 40mbps up I have now. That upload speed is chaffing.
But I'm looking for a new toy like this because my current router is only 1g.
I'm watching my fiber provider going bankrupt a month before finally patching us online.
I have 3TB of data, I can't back that up with 40 Mbps and occasional 10 min outages!
Got the module some years ago when there were massive shortages. I found a couple CM4s and bought them at the time.
What are you comparing it to?
Trump, 79, Posts Early Morning Meltdown Over Approval Ratings
Trump, 79, Posts Early Morning Meltdown Over Approval Ratings
The president said he had received his “best numbers ever” after a week when he had his worst.Adam Downer (The Daily Beast)
How can you tell if music is AI-generated?
A survey published last week suggested 97% of respondents could not spot an AI-generated song. But there are some telltale signs - if you know where to look.
Here's a quick guide ...
- No live performances or social media presence
- 'A mashup of rock hits in a blender'
A song with a formulaic feel - sweet but without much substance or emotional weight - can be a sign of AI, says the musician and technology speaker, as well as vocals that feel breathless.
- 'AI hasn't felt heartbreak yet'
"AI hasn't felt heartbreak yet... It knows patterns," he explains. "What makes music human is not just sound but the stories behind it."
- Steps toward transparency
In January, the streaming platform Deezer launched an AI detection tool, followed this summer by a system which tags AI-generated music.
How can you tell if music is AI-generated?
As AI-generated music floods streaming platforms, questions bubble over whether listeners are owed more transparency.Jemma Crew (BBC News)
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And the guitarist and the keyboard players sound like they clearly have more than 5 fingers on each hand. 😋
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I fell hard for Dysmn, who was suspiciously dropping new music every few days. I really liked the sound, and I haven't found anything that sounds like that since. 270+ videos in under 2 years. I realized it wasn't human after a month or two.
Soooo, if anybody knows a great jazzy EDM metal noise, let me know.
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Humans are primarily visual creatures, so we can detect the slop in AI images a LOT faster than we can in audio.
Human artists are going to have to get a lot weirder to out-innovate AI music, and I’m actually happy about that. Weird music is the best.
I think this might be a way AI and humans can actually work together. A lot of musicians are creating digitally anyway. They might have to rely on drum loops if they aren’t good at beats. Iterating with an AI to get the right beat would be better than a loop, and still be a human making it.
However, I have reservations about the AI doing everything with little or no human involvement.
Iterating with an AI to get the right beat would be better than a loop
That’s just like, your opinion
Right, pretty sure everyone but you knows it’s an opinion.
I think (think means opinion) most people, besides you, would agree that having a beat that is unique and not just downloaded from a loop library will produce a song that is more original.
“In my imagination I speak for all people and we all think I’m right” chatGPT is literally rotting your brain bro
“The main issue musicians are struggling with is originality; AI can help :)” get a grip. Notice how in order for you to insert “ai” into this process you have to construct a fantasy where a totally uncreative person lazily drags a low quality beat into their project without a further care in the world? The root of your little fantasy here is simple and inescapable: AI is only appealing to boring, uncreative, soulless people. I know it, and you know it, which is why out of all the limitless possibilities your first argument is that it would be superior to something you already consider shit.
“I refuse to have a polite conversation” - you. It’s exactly what you said, because it’s in quotes and I know how to use quotes. Hah.
I disagree.
If a person plays guitar-but not piano, and they feed their track into an AI and ask it to generate a backup piano track with specific instructions about how it should sound, they should be… denied that?
What should they do if they want a track that involves an instrument they can’t play? Hire someone? With what money? lol.
Great job pretending not to know the concept of a summary! Also bonus points for conceding my points by ignoring them and moving on
As for this little game you and all slop pushers like to play where you try to come up with problems that don’t exist so AI can solve them: I can’t help but to notice the main character of your second attempt here doesn’t have any friends they can make music with.
The reason they have no musical friends is most likely because they keep getting ghosted after showing people their humiliating AI demos. It’s gonna be a recurring problem for them until someone is polite enough to tell them the truth to their face
Oh, I see… You’re gatekeeping music. You assume that if a person picks up an instrument that they must want to be in a band. They must have a lot of friends who also play instruments. And they cannot be considered a serious musician unless they play in a group. I think Enya might have something to say about that.
I have the feeling that you feel the same way about all digitally created music, regardless of whether it involve artificial intelligence. You probably think programs like GarageBand have destroyed music. That a person with limited traditional musical skills could outshine you with what is basically a midi controller.
Tell me more about your failed music career.
Your delusions now extend to me! What an honor. Sadly, unlike with your AI girlfriend, you don’t have the ability to just tell me what I believe lmfao. Your brain is cooked
As for the point you’re trying to make: you cannot be considered a serious artist if you smear AI on the walls and then demand the same respect given to actual artists, no.
Digital artists who use “what is basically a midi controller” are actual artists, yes. Wtf are you talking about btw, it’s like you’ve heard of midi controllers but don’t know enough about them to phrase your point properly. Is your entire concept of digital production based on a guitar center advertisement? It would explain why you incorrectly believe AI could possibly assist the creative process.
And you’re the one shitting on digital artists, just so you know. Google how “Umbrella” was made before you so casually throw drum loops under the bus. Drum loops (and….this might blow your mind…piano loops) are collaborations between human artists. Everyone agrees this is legit. The fact you think instrumentalists and producers are somehow enemies reveals how out of touch you are; it’s totally obvious to anyone who actually creates music
I have everything. Nothing you said has changed my mind. Nothing you said has any rational thinking. No matter what point I make, you will say words of disagreement.
You’re just an old person yelling at clouds, or in this case: Computer programs that take inputs in different ways than you are familiar with and output things that are significantly better than you could ever do yourself.
So, tell me again about your failed music career lmao
Oh noooo, not my career, how will it survive the onslaught of tech bros who publish thirty “songs” a day
You’re badly out of date buddy. It’s been hilarious watching slop slurpers humiliate themselves for years on and end then up crying when the obvious scam they invested in achieves nothing. There’s a reason all of your fantasies revolve around undisciplined, talentless losers who feel entitled to success without needing to work for it or collaborate with anybody else.
Do you create your own samples from scratch too? Kudos if you do, I haven't done that since the 90's, and I consider my music original. Ever used an arpeggiator? Or randomized patterns? Used a synth lead that came with the synth?
The distinction between automation and AI breaks down somewhere.
I like to take real life sounds and put layers of effects on them to make them indistinguishable from the original. My drum is me playing my cat’s butt (meow, slap). I love to take quick sounds and slow them down ~100k% and get really weird atmospheric drones, etc.
When it comes to involving AI, which I haven’t done yet, I’d love to use it to quickly iterate over ideas. I spend a lot of time chasing an idea and having it fall apart. I like the process, sure, but I’d prefer to have more wins.
My drum is me playing my cat’s butt (meow, slap).
Hey, man, I feel that.
But yeah I heard a friend of mine also slows down slices and makes new sounds out of them. I have not been able to get to a studio in years, unfortunately, but I hear it can be done!
And that's how I "use" Suno, too. Song ideas. I would never be able to live with myself if I just published an AI song, but I think using it to explore ideas is fair game. But then, you can download the stems in WAV, so you can basically use that instead of buying pre-made tracks from musicians on like Apple Store or whatever.
Which only comes back to the problem that it will likely hurt musicians and make life harder for everyone. I don't know man, I'm just as nonplussed about the whole fucking thing as anyone.
Can't say any legit bands that sound exactly like that, But some of the guitar and metal notes sounds inspired by Polyphia, Playing God (sorry for the yt link) might scratch your itch, otherwise look up the math rock genre, might find some gems there. Wish you the best of luck!
Gonna make a quick edit, Unprocessed 100% deserves a recommendation in this genre. Occasionally have some EDM but mainly more on the metal side, but still have some extraordinary strings akin to Polyphia
I'm enjoying a lot of Unprocessed's Angel album. I'm also going to have to look at Polyphia and Playing God.
Math rock is one of the ways they advertised themselves. Also djent, but I'm not seeing that.
Psyqui is a Japanese EDM artist that has a similar sound. If the melodies and compositions are aigen, it may be a source.
You are the second person to recommend Unprocessed. Almost 10 minutes into the Angel album. It's pretty good, definitely hits the target.
I'll have to check out Polyphia as well.
I'm in the camp of, "if it's good, why should I care?" However, I'm all for transparency! Passing off AI-generated music as human-generated is fraud. Be honest!
There's a LOT of grey areas though. If you're a vocalist and you're using an AI-generated background? How's that any different from pressing "play" on a sequencer or even an audio file (of some sequenced or drum track)?
If you're a lyricist, the actual music isn't as important as the lyrics. Does it matter if they used AI to generate the music or should every lyricist be forced to pay someone to make the music for them or master an instrument (or sequencer)?
What if you're trying to translate your music into a different language and use AI to translate it? Is that AI-generated music? You can give your whole damned song to AI and it'll convert to a different language in-place without having to re-record it. It even uses your singer's voice!
To me, it's incredible technology and it's enabling artists of all kinds to do cool things with their music. It seems rather paternalistic to suggest someone's creativity doesn't "count" if they didn't sweat or spend years practicing to create it.
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You must consider that the AI "helping" the artist is built from the stolen work of countless artists. Regardless of use case, the tool only exists due to theft. Plus, this tool exists as a way to not pay talent for content.
Since the bread and circuses machine must keep dispensing to keep the masses anaesthetized, the elites need a way to cut the costs or they will lose points are their net worth scorecard and get made fun of by the other billionaires.
Not to mention, AI is a shortcut that does not generate skills besides prompt engineering. We have research proving this with students and the labor force losing reasoning and straight memory by handing off to "AI". Part of being a musician is the effort and practice and knowing an instrument. Asking the clanker for a tune because learning takes too long or is too difficult goes along with what the article says for detecting it. The work will be emotionless and have no soul. Musicians are allowed to make choices for their music, of course. AI rounding out an artist's tools is what it is. I view the tool as a corrupting force but, it's their perogative. But people without no knowledge or skill for making music cranking out these generic sounding similacra to make money is always going to set my teeth on edge.
Edit: spelling and tense correction. Revision and expansion of idea to express less derision.
You must consider that the AI “helping” the artist is built from the stolen work of countless artists.
I feel like this is conflating two separate arguments.
Is AI music good, versus is AI music moral.
AI imitates an overall sound. But doesn't care much about "instruments" individually. For simple minimal segments it can easily lay down a simple clear beat or melody. But as more gets added. The more the sound becomes muddy and generic. That and if you're familiar enough with a given instrument. It can often just sound "wrong". Again because the AI is imitating a sound, not an instrument generally.
But yeah. The other points stand. Social media presence and output are great indicators.
Midnight Darkwave is one I'm highly suspicious of. Super generic name. Not much presence beyond the streaming sites. I like the overall sound, but it often gets muddy and kind of droning. And not in the coldwave sort of way. Something a bit more inhuman, over processed, and mechanical.
I can see a creative use for Suno Studio where you can feed it a clip of a chord progression you recorded, have the AI generate a few extrapolations, then arrange bits and pieces of it within Suno Studio to create the basic song structure and finally export the midi to your DAW. Basically, you can use it as a fancy sketchpad.
The problem I can't get past is the environmental impact.
AI is just a tool. It can be used for good things and for bad things.
Huh. I wonder which it's gonna be!
Right? I used to use... Don't remember what the app was on Android, but it was like a fun little beat studio, it could generate random patterns according to styles, and randomize instruments too. So you'd get a loop, then you'd tweak it and switch our instruments and sounds and whatnot, and then when I found a nice rhythm, I recreated it in Ableton or FL Studio or whatever.
So, let's say you use Suno to make a good beat. You import slice and dissect the beat and sounds, and I fail to see how it's qualitatively any different than using sample or loop packs, which basically every fucking musician on the planet does.
"Are we so different, you and I"? 😀
I have used Suno quite extensively just for fun, I insert my own lyrics and let it create different styles and beats, and you have to push out like 30 before it does something actually decent, but some of them are fucking bangers. I consider it like watching visualizations in WinAmp.
I am not stating a moral proposition in either direction, just an observation.
I like to ask it to generate lyrics based on funny prompts. For example, I asked it to write a song from Darth Vader's perspective about the fact that he never actually said "Luke, I am your father". The results was just savage.
Hey Luke\
I heard you kissed your sister on Hoth\
I'm not mad\
I'm just curious\
'Cause I never kissed mine\
Did you like it? Did she like it?\
Do you regret it? Do you feel gross?\
Did it feel weird when she kissed you?\
I know that you never kissed beforeShe got a man (Ooh)\
You got a hand (Ooh)\
And maybe you should stick to what you know\
Oh\
You need to know\I am your father (I am your father)\
Luke\
I am your father (Luke, I am your father)\
No\
I never said that\
I never said that (No, I never said that)\
No
That... Is... Not very good.
BUT! Let's say that you took that and used it as a scaffolding for an idea. Let's say you kept some parts, rewrote some other parts, in the end coming up with something much better than the original.
Did you write it, or did the robot?
How much would you have to change for it to be "yours"? Where's the cutoff point?
I'm just posing this as a general metaphysical conundrum, I don't take a position other than deconstructing underlying arguments.
Fucking shit. I am starting to sound like a god damned AI.
I just thought it was funny that it decided to brutalize Luke all on its own.
She got a man (Ooh)\
You got a hand (Ooh)\
And maybe you should stick to what you know
Also, the incest thing was all the AI. I just asked for a song about the fact that Vader never said the line "Luke, I am your father".
Well then it is not only bad but wildly off topic, because what you got there is a cheap diss track missing a lot of opportunities.
"Hey Luke
I heard you kissed your sister on Hoth"
I mean right there you've got something rhyming with "hot". But anyway.
I think that if you don't know literature and art, dumb literature and art seems genius. And that's where we're at as a society.
I've been trying to figure out if Stone Rebel is an AI band or not. They started in 2018 and have put out something like 77 albums since, but it's relatively simple instrumental. They have almost no information online except a claim that they're "based in France"
Honestly can't tell if they're a legit yet very private group, or if they were early adopters of procgen music
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By a very thin margin, but yes. I'd rather listen to AI slop than the Human slop they try to pass for music these days.
Edit: Ah shit, I realized though that we are just gonna get talentless pop stars using AI instead. So both dog AND cat shit at the same time.
Brave new world.
I am talking about the music that gets played in coffee shops, malls, taxis, hotel lobbies, and restaurants all over the world. So yes, I listen to a LOT of crap.
The distinction is between mass produced radio pop and whatever high brow hipster music you're into.
literally 1984
But also there is still lots of good human music being created, I guess it's passing under your radar. Ask around, browse Bandcamp, listen to radio (hint: it's not just local now, check out Radio Garden).
Hahah he didn't exactly write according to a formula. That's like saying "yeah jimi hendrix is pretty formulaic, because he just plays guitar, with a limited number of chords and strings."
Edit: On second thought, the above is not a fair comparison at all, and there is a point to the mathematical nature of Bach, I just couldn't express it in a coherent and snarky way at the same time.
Bullshit. This only applies to fully prompt generated AI music. Tracks that heavily rely on AI based tech as a part of the process are harder to catch, and tracks that only use AI for mixing and mastering are impossible to detect.
I made a track but used AI to autotune and morph my voice to that of a woman's. It even allowed me to tweak the expressiveness of the voice. The track is 95% human made but the vocals are AI modified. I'm willing to bet that the ration of AI use in a lot of pop music and EDM is a lot higher.
PS: I make music for myself, as a hobby. I just wanted to make something to share with my friends. If you want real music, try bands like Wet Leg, IDLES, GEESE, etc who lean into making low tech music.
EDIT: Thia is an example of a song that is fully generated by AI. All that was fed to the prompt were the lyrics. The AI did everything else itself, including picking the genre. I shared it with a few people to see who'd figure out it was AI slop.
Compression throws me off.
That AI 'hiss' is ringing it my ears, but its very, very similar to YT uploads that have been re-encoded like 10 times. Which is a lot of them.
Out of curiosity, I made spectrograms of the AI song and concert that sounds 'clean' yet kinda noisy/compressed to me. I won't tell you which one is which:
Source song, if you are curious:
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That song was a mistake that got generated when I pasted the wrong clipboard into Suno's Lyrics window on my phone and accidentally submitted it. It has not been processed at all. Suno has a "Remaster" feature that when you are happy with the generated song you can give it a few automated "mix and mastering" passes to generate a cleaner and more dynamic sound.
I've mainly used Suno to mess about so I didn't want to pay for the upgrade.
Frequency.
A couple months ago, I found a really cool remake of one of the songs from KPop Demon Hunters. Everyone was doing covers of those songs, and many of them were indie artists, and I was rolling through them. So I found this video, and the video was just an image effect on the cover, which looked very AI-generated, but it's just the cover image, right? Who cares about that? I asked them in the comments if they would release their stuff on Apple Music. And they quickly responded — no, they're going to leave that money on the table, and have decided to stay exclusive to YouTube. Why would an artist choose to do that? Sure, a couple artists pulled their music off all other streaming platforms when they made their own, or their friends did. Garth Brooks has never been on streaming (except Amazon, I think they're the only one whose ethics he agrees with or something?). But most indie artists are on all the platforms. Maximise revenue. So these people saying no, not only to Apple Music — maybe they didn't like Apple kissing up to Trump — but also to Spotify, Amazon, Deezer, and all the rest. Turns out most of those platforms are stricter when it comes to AI music.
But here's the thing — their songs are still by the original artist. They're just stripping out the lyrics and putting new music to the lyrics. And that music is AI generated. Or so I later learned. I looked more into the YouTube channel, and they say they will make you a cover of a song, in any style you like, for $200. And they have hundreds of uploads... in a few months. Each song may have five or six variants. And the songs are still fine, but they have a generic, plastic, not real feel to them.
Of course, they also qualify the first thing in OP's summary, no social media presence. They just have the sales site, and the YouTube channel.
But maybe it's fine, or at least less bad, that they're taking existing songs and just remixing them with AI? Only they're saying the covers are better, and they're monetising the videos, so they're getting paid for the streams when that money should be going to the original artist. It's fine if they actually covered the song and recorded it, but having a computer do all the heavy lifting? Just seems scummy.
I'm not going to name & shame, but if you look up KPDH covers and see something that looks like AI slop with click-bait titles... you've probably found the right one. (They cover other stuff too, not just KPDH.)
Garth Brooks has never been on streaming (except Amazon)
Garth Brooks is available on every single music streaming service I know about. 🤨
This description of AI songs could be a lament about most pop music: formulaic, sweet, generic, produced in a studio to sound perfect, not human. Works on radio or Spotify, but not so much for a live audience.
Sure, that's hard to detect. AI reproduces what we've been exposed to for decades.
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I passed, but I'm fairly confident I wouldn't have if it weren't explicitly a test. I listened to all of them twice, with the express purpose of identifying the ones that are AI-generated.
Even then, I wasn't as confident in my prediction as I would have liked.
I'll say, I did enjoy all of them musically, but when I paid closer attention to the lyrics, I noticed something really odd and hard to describe in the ones generated by AI. Like some new kind of cringe. Like it would be embarrassing for a human to have written those lines, but not in a relatable kind of way. Not in the usual "I'm embarrassed for you" kind of way.
I was torn between "I hope this isn't AI, I'm vibing with the music" and "I hope no human wrote these lyrics".
The whole exercise also shattered my perception of my own taste in music - I liked all of the AI-generated ones and I'm not happy about it.
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single branch of the Ministry of Truth, whose primary job
was not to reconstruct the past but to supply the citizens
of Oceania with newspapers, films, textbooks, telescreen
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programmes, plays, novels—with every conceivable kind of
information, instruction, or entertainment, from a statue to
a slogan, from a lyric poem to a biological treatise, and from
a child’s spelling-book to a Newspeak dictionary. And the
Ministry had not only to supply the multifarious needs of
the party, but also to repeat the whole operation at a lower
level for the benefit of the proletariat. There was a whole
chain of separate departments dealing with proletarian lit-
erature, music, drama, and entertainment generally. Here
were produced rubbishy newspapers containing almost
nothing except sport, crime and astrology, sensational
five-cent novelettes, films oozing with sex, and sentimen-
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means on a special kind of kaleidoscope known as a ver-
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If you can't tell the difference and it fits how you listen to music, I guess who cares?
AI software writing up musak doesn't matter to me because I don't listen to music that way.
I'll know the bands I'm listening to are real because I will have manually downloaded their music after reading reviews, magazine articles, or things like albumoftheyear.org just like I've been doing for the last half decade.
Music streaming services suck and not only because they will promote low cost bands to you. If you actually give a shit about music then stop being so lazy as to have an algorithm fill your trough with slop and then being surprised that it's AI slop.
Or just continue eating the slop if it pleases you. 🤷
It's a bit of a contrarian take, but I think people need to start adding more intentionality to how they live their lives. If music is unimportant to you, that's fine. But nowadays everyone just watches the shows they're recommended, listens to the music that is picked out by the algorithm, and reads what is fed to them in their feeds...figure out what's important to you and curate it for yourself.
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Look, the guy has a point. This is a very real metaphysical conundrum. Who would've guessed that we would have a whole new metaphysical conundrum to sink our teeth in in 2025?
It's an important conversation, and interesting. I have very strong opinions on art, but I can't quite wrap my head around how to relate to AI generated art.
I can’t quite wrap my head around how to relate to AI generated art.
Simple. It's not about art at all. But about "artists".
Let's use an example. Let's say that you're a rich person and you want to hire someone to paint a landscape portrait for you. You tell them in detail exactly what you want and they go and do it. Does that make you an artist? Of course not. It makes you the procurer
So if we replace that hired painter with a computer, does that mean that because no human artist was involved that the title of "artist" automatically reverts to the procurer, meaning the person that told the computer what to do? No.
Regardless of who (or what) creates the art, the person telling them/it what to paint isn't a damn artist and doesn't deserve any financial reward.
Your contention is, as far as I understand, that a person who uses AI to create AI art, is not an artist. Ok. I don't think so either, necessarily.
But when you use the word "deserve" you also make another argument, which is financial and political in nature, which is a qualitatively different proposition. I don't disagree with you there either, necessarily.
I am not taking sides by the way. Like I said, I have not been successful in navigating the problem space enough to have a single strong unified position on all of it, just bits and pieces, not strongly, and the pieces don't fit.
I was looking for videogame remixes one day and found a channel doing Little Nemo from the NES. I used to love that game and thought it was an odd pick for remixes, one you don't see too often so I clicked on it and ... it was incredibly underwhelming. I listened for a few minutes and something was kind of off but I couldn't quite put my finger on it. It was AI of course.
I'm not much of a music person, I've been listening to it daily for my entire life but I don't know much about theory. Still, when it comes to remixes, you can usually tell why someone remixed a song. They like that particular song, or there's a motif that really struck them. They'll pick out certain sounds or elements and build on them, single them out and rearrange them. It's very intentional and you can tell.
AI-generated remixes lack this intentionality. It was like someone had twisted a dial that just said "complexity" and that was it. There were more intricate layers of beats and instrumentation on top, but it wasn't doing anything. I sat there and listened for 15 minutes and it was like I heard nothing. Nothing new stuck in my head, there was no riff or little melody that made go, "Aw fuck yeah! This is what it's about!"
That's how you can tell AI generated music.
Sadly, a lot of slower and minimalist genres have been decimated by it though. Vaporwave, chillcore, dungeonsynth. A lot of these had large bodies of work to train on and it's a lot harder to tell due to their subtler nature, but you'll usually notice the artist has a new hour-long upload every day. If you click through it at random, you'll begin to notice that while the tones shift, the overall pattern of the entire hour-long mix is still kind of the same?
It's bleak, man. Fuck that shit.
This is kind of irrelevant to the argument, but if I were to provide you with a mix of AI and organically produced music, would you be able to pick them out every time?
It's a bit like Andy Warhol's "Brillo box" art installation. Is it just a Brillo box he got at the store? Or did he make it himself, thereby creating "art"? Could you know the difference? Would you?
As a fun aside, a permanent exhibition of one of "his" Brillo boxes turned out to be fake (well, real, if you think about it, which is kind of the point of that piece of Warhol's art), and there was a huge investigation into who had taken the "original", but people had been coming and seen the exhibition for decades at that point, not knowing it was actually just a Brillo box.
I think this touches on the complexity of the issues presented by AI that is actually a pretty ancient philosophical debate around art, meaning, and value.
This is kind of irrelevant to the argument, but if I were to provide you with a mix of AI and organically produced music, would you be able to pick them out every time?
I'd like to think much more often than not, yes. People talk about it being able to replicate low level pop and ... fine. But that's not really the kind of stuff I listen to. Maybe there's a statement to be made there about how far down pop has fallen that it can be mistaken with formulaic AI slop ...
It’s a bit like Andy Warhol’s “Brillo box” art installation. Is it just a Brillo box he got at the store? Or did he make it himself, thereby creating “art”? Could you know the difference? Would you?
Which I guess is what your point here is. What is art and who is the arbiter of that?
Kind of different circumstances as I see it, though. Andy Warhol still performed the art of the Brillo box. He took something basic and skillfully crafted it into art to prod the artistic community into considering what we think of as art and why. It was in no way a trick but a very deliberate and intentional statement, or question even.
AI on the other hand often feels like a trick. There is little to no intention, no human craft, and an effort to pass it off as a higher form of art than it really is. It's not asking questions or making statements but an effort to deliver "content" to fill some need. The need for more content.
But like, hey. That's just my opinion, maaan ...
You misread what I wrote. I didn't say it couldn't fool me, I said I'll never pay for it. I'm not interested in fabricated emotional connections to fake art, even if it's faked well enough to trick me. All this means is that I'm going to be researching the bands and artists I listen to, which I already do anyways.
There really isn't anything unique anyway in human made content
100% pure, unadulterated bullshit.
Sometimes experimental/improv groups can basically make an album a day if they put their mind to it. Often live recorded with minimal post processing. It’s far from mainstream but it can be surprisingly popular among the right audiences.
Haven’t checked out this particular project but it’s possible
Look, I hate AI as much as the next person, but honestly, I think a lot of AI music is better than whatever dumb shit they play on radio literally all across the world.
Text AI is meh.
Image AI is meh.
Video AI is not bad.
Music AI is pretty good.
Edit: Wow, tough crowd, tough crowd. I stand by what I said.
I am not sure I quite follow. I mean yeah good comparison with Hatsune Miku, but I mean it genuinely- I would rather listen to some AI generated beats I "made" "myself" over the absolute auditive brain diarrhea they play in coffee shops all around the world, it's the same lowest common denominator manufactured pop drivel that I can't escape from one side of the planet to the other.
Thanks, I'll take random techno beats with Bach fugues and Chopin leads with a Rasta rhythm over that any day. At least it doesn't desperately try to make a case for itself being great art.
I hate the fact that it is owned and controlled and developed and manipulated by modern self made kings. I hate the fact that it has tremendous destructive power. I hate the fact that it will be used to control global discourse, empower militaries, and only serve to solidify the profound wealth gap already ingrained in and promoted by the fabric of our economic system.
But hey, if you feel like you need to gatekeep hating AI, knock yourself out, I guess I will never achieve your level of purity.
1) A LOT of people, especially blue collar folk, listen to fully advertised radio schlock every single minute of their working day, and they work very long days.
2) WiFi is technically radio.
3) Neither 1) nor 2) matters, because the word "radio" encompasses a fuzzy category of media content regardless of how it's being provided. People still go to the "movies" even though we've had "talkies" since 1910. We still watch film even when it's shot digitally.
My first experience with AI music was when I was on my usual 90s hip-hop/rap vibe and got recommended some channels with alleged underground hits. There definitely were a couple channels that put out legit mixes that did have a lot of music and artists I didn't know prior, but one of the mixes was weird. I could tell immediately, less than a minute in, mainly because of the vocals that sounded super generic as well kind of robotic in addition to a very out of place beat that doesn't sound at all like it'd belong in the 90s/2000s era of rap music. Had it not been for the vocals in tandem with the mismatched beat (obviously created by someone who doesn't know jack about the music genre and the ear it's supposed to represent), I might not have spotted the AI involved.
The scary and sad part is that I doubt YouTube will do anything about it despite reports and that there are so many people that either don't care or don't know/realise. Only saw like one or two other comments calling out that mix having been made with AI
AI has no story to tell, didn't broke up with someone to write a song, and certainly won't make star gaze the live concert I went to.
- dumbass nonsensical lyrics
- bland basic bitch tone
- superfluous background music
- digital voice that sounds like it's been through a syth incorrectly
even shit music takes effort and talent.
AI is literally the theft of talent and the absence of effort.
literally the theft of talent and the absence of effort.
You've just described 100% of the record labels.
even shit music takes effort and talent.
Hm, not really unless you consider effort anything that's non-zero.
I just shat my pants.I just shat my pants.
Shit got so itchy,
I just shat my pants.
There you go. It took me 10 seconds of effort to come up with that masterpiece. Where's my Grammy?
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Okay okay. First off, fuck AI yeah. But if it's becoming this indistinguishable where you need to go looking for tells that it's AI I don't think it's fair to call it bad music, just how it got there is bad.
It's like listening to Kanye West. Graduation is amazing but fuck him.
Hard disagree, because it's like with all the other forms of AI-created slop - with the real thing there's layers of meaning, and you spend time and mental energy digging into that and getting something from it. But as with AI art and AI prose, you try looking closer at it and it just makes you feel hollow and frustrated at having wasted your time.
There was no meaning, there was no symbolism, there were no clever literary allusions, there was no interplay between the melody and the lyrics, it's just superficial garbage that tricks you into giving it attention by sounding good on its first listen.
(Edit: lol touched a nerve with some shit talentless musicians)
I listened to Kanye for years before he publicly became a Nazi and I don't think the breadth of his mind changed overnight.
I spent years defending his off-putting public personality because his music touched me from the start.
I really think our pattern seeking monkey brains are easily tricked enough to find meaning in a pile of garbage if we believe hard enough and AI represents this, not proves against it.
Not everyone can draw, or play music, or make movies. Not everyone has the time or money to put everything together thats needed to make something like a good song or a good movie. AI tools are going to give more people those chances, and yes there is going to be slop, but theres already been slop for decades that was all 100% human being made, that had no meaning, no symbolism, no clever literay allusions. So what exactly is the problem with people using AI generate something?
I don't mind if the work is generated by AI. A dude could randomly pour some ink on a paper and try and sell it to me. If I like it, I'll buy it.
My issue with AI is the fact that it harms people, and I wish I was exaggerating.
I dreamed of a future like this one when I was a kid. But not at the expense of mass layoffs and the benefits going to a few folks.
But there is more human crap out there made each day than there is great works
And now, thanks to AI, we can expect 100x more shit to wade through! Great success!
Not everyone can draw, or play music, or make movies. Not everyone has the time or money to put everything together thats needed to make something like a good song or a good movie.
If the author does not want to spend time learning and doing, then I don't want to spend time checking whatever they asked an AI to do.
So what exactly is the problem with people using AI generate something?
Lower barrier of entry for profit-seeking bullshitters. A significant usage of AI is done by people wanting to profit off it somehow. SEO optimized garbage sites, videos that get lots of views on yt/ttk/insta, playing spotify on repeat forever.
Oh, there's also the problem of all the deepfakes that people WILL believe, whatever the intent was: revenge porn, political manipulation, trolling.
If the author does not want to spend time learning and doing, then I don't want to spend time checking whatever they asked an AI to do.
Not everyone has the luxury to spend time learning those skill sets. Should the single parent who had a dream to make art who is getting crushed by capitalism, works 3 jobs to make ends meet and literally doesnt have time to learn there passion without starving not also deserve to be able to express themselves? What do you want only the privileged rich people who have time to dedicate large portions of their life without impact on their finances to be the only ones putting out art? How does someone like Taylor swift who's whole career came about because her parents could spend so much money on getting her training and paying for studio time in some of the most expensive studios more deserving of getting to make art because of circumstances most people dont have the opportunity to participate in?
Lower barrier of entry for profit-seeking bullshitters
Oh no poor people might be able to make money off of art instead of only massive corporations that effectively already killed the human spirit in art already. Oh no someone who may have gone to school for art so they can express themselves may no longer be able to get a job at an ad company where their love for art gets extinguished as they have to constantly make soulless logos for mega corps based on advise from advertising psychologist who define what will tingle peoples brain more to make them want to consume more.
The problem your scared about already happens but is dressed up as human expression today by pr departments because people do it. If anything AI art would counter that because now more people will be producing things for the sole reason of expressing themselves instead of needing to take a soul crushing job eroding the expression of their craft for a corporation to make up for the years of debt they incurred by going to school to follow their passion only to find out the field they went into is a farce.
Oh, there's also the problem of all the deepfakes that people WILL believe, whatever the intent was: revenge porn, political manipulation, trolling.
People believe anything already, people believed random hearsay in the past. The only counter for any type of manipulation like this whether being based in deep fakes or just someone spewing nonsense on a pod cast is critical thinking skills. AI doesnt change that one bit, if someone doesnt want to think critically about something they wont, they don't need AI today to practice cognitive dissonance and blocking AI wont stop that behavior only focusing on education and critical thinking skills will.
Glad to see that you lack an understanding of scale, that explains a lot.
Should the single parent who had a dream to make art who is getting crushed by capitalism, works 3 jobs to make ends meet and literally doesnt have time to learn there passion without starving not also deserve to be able to express themselves?
They're not expressing themselves if all they're doing is the equivalent of a boss telling a worker to do something. This is also called "commissioning an artist"
Oh no poor people might be able to make money off of art instead of only massive corporations that effectively already killed the human spirit in art already. Oh no someone who may have gone to school for art so they can express themselves may no longer be able to get a job at an ad company where their love for art gets extinguished as they have to constantly make soulless logos for mega corps based on advise from advertising psychologist who define what will tingle peoples brain more to make them want to consume more.
This whole paragraph is such a display of bad faith that I can't even figure what's your position. My best guess: a lot of words to dodge the problem.
The problem your scared about already happens but is dressed up as human expression today by pr departments because people do it. If anything AI art would counter that because now more people will be producing things for the sole reason of expressing themselves instead of needing to take a soul crushing job eroding the expression of their craft for a corporation to make up for the years of debt they incurred by going to school to follow their passion only to find out the field they went into is a farce.
Yeah, nothing like getting a soul crushing job that doesn't involve art, so that my artistic spirit can remain unfulfilled forever while I pretend to boss around a prompt and think I did something. Refer back to my first point of this reply.
People believe anything already, people believed random hearsay in the past. The only counter for any type of manipulation like this whether being based in deep fakes or just someone spewing nonsense on a pod cast is critical thinking skills. AI doesnt change that one bit, if someone doesnt want to think critically about something they wont, they don’t need AI today to practice cognitive dissonance and blocking AI wont stop that behavior only focusing on education and critical thinking skills will.
It's a matter of scale. That you failed to grasp something so simple says a lot.
Maybe people with be more protective of their art from here on out and stop trying to make a mill off of clout.
We gave the tech companies or data. We are reaping the consequences.
If your concerns are ethical, then you should be consuming only indie music from unsigned artists
...who could be using AI, lol.
I don't know if people are still making sampled music, but this thought occurred to me the other day.
What if I prompted certain phrased, riffs, and hooks that never existed instead of making a complete song.
Then I made a song using samples in my work.
Is this a new song? AI? A mix? Seems plausible that someone is doing this now.
I pretty much only listen to live music anymore anyways, because everything else is so produced it might as well be AI.
Is this a new song? AI? A mix?
Just send kinda sad that you'd give up trying to make up new riffs and stuff, seems like a really fun and important part of music
COP30 in Brazil fails to secure new pledges to cut fossil fuels - follow live
COP30 approves the key deal in this year's talks, the Global Mutirão - although it does not promise a path on fossil fuel cuts
Fights over fossil fuels and money appear to have deadlocked the climate talks - with some countries saying the deal "falls far short" of addressing crucial challenges
The final meeting of COP30 has now been temporarily suspended after Colombia's fiery intervention - we'll keep bringing you updates as they land
No agreement reached on new pledges to cut fossil fuels at COP30 in Brazil
"We know some of you had greater ambitions," says COP30's president after negotiations among nearly 200 countries ran over time.BBC News
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Oh really?
Our overlords who've been working for decades to make us poorer just so they can enrich themselves show zero interest in saving the world from very preventable catastrophe, yet again, after doing the same shit for the last decades?
How surprising!
I've been saying it for a while now, until proper action on climate action is taken, the social contract is broken.
Take back what you can from the capitalist class where you can safely and without harming anyone innocent. It's morally acceptable. This shouldn't be controversial.
Well, we can try again next time. Let's build another metropolis in the middle of a tropical forest and send thousands of people with airplanes.
Ps: if the new city in the middle of nowhere doesn't have enough beds because they cutted trees too slowly, it's ok to rent some cruise ships to host the people. The neat part is that they're self sufficient, they burn oil to generate electricity
I am not surprised. Nothing substantial and binding ever came since the Paris Climate agreement in 2015. Because the key word is: non-binding. No one will get punished for not meeting the climate targets. Nicaragua is right not signing it initially because they think the Paris deal did not go far enough. The world wide climate fund went to vanity projects of corrupt politicians and businesses because those projects qualified for "green initiatives".
Wake me up when carbon emissions actually decreased by 90% and the worst offenders are put in jail.
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Belarus pardons 31 Ukrainians after deal with Trump
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/39162709
TALLINN, Estonia (AP) — Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has pardoned 31 Ukrainians jailed in Belarus on criminal offences, it was reported on Saturday, the latest step in Minsk’s effort to thaw relations with the West.They were released “as a gesture of goodwill”, in accordance with agreements reached between Lukashenko and U.S. President Donald Trump at Ukraine’s request, Belarusian state agency Belta said, citing Lukashenko’s spokesperson, Natalia Eismont. Those freed were handed over to Kyiv, according to the report.
Earlier this week, Lukashenko pardoned two jailed Catholic priests at the request of the Vatican.
Belarus, Russia’s close and dependent ally, has allowed the Kremlin to use its territory to send troops and tanks into Ukraine, and later to place nuclear weapons there. Moscow and Kyiv have also conducted prisoner swaps on Belarusian land.
Lukashenko, who has ruled Belarus with an iron first for over 30 years, has recently tried to repair relations with the West. Weeks after a phone call with Trump in August, he pardoned 51 political prisoners under a U.S.-brokered deal that saw some sanctions lifted from the country’s national airline, Belavia.
'Sound ripped through my ears': Thousands deafened by Israeli bombing in Gaza
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/39334910
By Hedaya al-Tatar in Gaza City, occupied Palestine
Published date: 22 November 2025 13:00 GMT
Two Palestinian boys lie next to each other at al-Wafa medical rehabilitation hospital in Gaza.Their mother, Aya Abu Auda, speaks to them softly, but neither child reacts.
The brothers, Elias Abu al-Jibeen, 5, and Ismail Abu al-Jibeen, 8, were wounded during Israeli bombardment on their displacement camp in Gaza City’s Tel al-Hawa neighbourhood on 31 August.
The attack left Elias completely deaf and Ismail with severe hearing loss.
Just a year earlier, Abu Auda had fled her home in northern Gaza after Israeli missiles flattened it and killed her husband.
'Sound ripped through my ears': Thousands deafened by Israeli bombing in Gaza
By Hedaya al-Tatar in Gaza City, occupied Palestine
Published date: 22 November 2025 13:00 GMTTwo Palestinian boys lie next to each other at al-Wafa medical rehabilitation hospital in Gaza.Their mother, Aya Abu Auda, speaks to them softly, but neither child reacts.
The brothers, Elias Abu al-Jibeen, 5, and Ismail Abu al-Jibeen, 8, were wounded during Israeli bombardment on their displacement camp in Gaza City’s Tel al-Hawa neighbourhood on 31 August.
The attack left Elias completely deaf and Ismail with severe hearing loss.
Just a year earlier, Abu Auda had fled her home in northern Gaza after Israeli missiles flattened it and killed her husband.
Gaza: Israeli blasts deafen thousands as treatment is blocked
Two Palestinian boys lie next to each other at al-Wafa medical rehabilitation hospital in Gaza. Their mother, Aya Abu Auda, speaks to them softly, but neither child reacts.Hedaya al-Tatar (Middle East Eye)
China takes spat with Japan over Taiwan to UN, vows to defend itself
China has taken its growing dispute with Japan to the United Nations, accusing Tokyo of threatening "an armed intervention" over Taiwan and vowing to defend itself in its strongest language yet in the two-week-old dispute.
Japanese Prime Minister Sanae Takaichi committed "a grave violation of international law" and diplomatic norms when she said a Chinese attack on Taiwan could trigger a military response from Tokyo, China's U.N. Ambassador Fu Cong wrote in a letter on Friday to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.
Beijing views democratically governed Taiwan as its own territory and has not ruled out the use of force to take control of the island. Taiwan's government rejects Beijing's claims and says only the island's people can decide their future.
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Africa's first G20 summit adopts declaration despite US boycott
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Running GoToSocial on an old wifi router
Someone on another Lemmy instance raised the question of whether an old wifi router could make a usable server of some sort, specifically a decade-old Google AC-1304. Since I happened to have a couple hanging around, I decided to give it a try.
I wrote a little about my experience in my blog but to summarize, I thought it would be fun to se if I could run a GoToSocial instance entirely on the router. It has an ARMv7 processor, 4GB of storage, and 512MB of RAM, so it falls a smidge short of the recommended minimum specs, but I figured that I might be able to get by if I kept the instance simple.
Surprisingly, GTS seemed to run fine after some basic configuration tweaks. The biggest issue I encountered was actually with ffmpeg, rather than GTS itself. The only GTS build available for ARMv7 is a nowasm build, meaning that it's missing the built-in media handling components, and instead relies on ffmpeg being proveded by the host system. The version of ffmpeg that ships with the OS I'm using (OpenWRT) didn't have the needed codecs to create webp files, which GTS requires when dealing with media. Using the OpenWRT SDK, I tried to build an ffmpeg package with the correct codecs, but it still failed to properly convert files to webp. My goal was just to run GTS, though, so I that digging deeper into ffmpeg felt like a tangent I didn't want to pursue.
But I digress. The instance is now online and running (though without media), and I created a simple bot account, named Gale, who will post a random fact about wifi and networking each day.
Feel free to give 'em a follow in your favorite Mastodon client at @gale@gts-googlewifi.k3can.us or you can view past toots here
Just wanted to share!
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Great work, but I just want to share the stupid comment of
"Looks like a cup of internet"
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Very, cool. But I can't help to notice the very odd placement of the ethernet ports on that router?
Edit: Ah, I see:
Very cool - I think there is promise in Openwrt routers becoming more than just routers - I posted about it here in selfhosted a while back - lemmy.radio/post/10217918
My Dream of a Home Router / Server
What if you could buy off the shelf a box based on #opensource software and hardware that you could plug into your internet connection. You could connect to via Wifi and it would allow an average person to fairly easily configure, via a guided setup, a self hosted Cloud Drive, Social Media server, home automation service, VPN end point, email server and other commonly useful software?What if that box allowed that person's friends to authenticate and to that box and link a box they own, either close by or remotely. It could extend connectivity and estabilish a chain of trus, provide a level of encrypted backup of content from that box and make assertions about the users on that box such as - This user account is owned by this person, this user account is over 18?
This is a dream. I know I'm rambling. #openwrt, #yunohost, #seflhost, #chainoftrust, #fediverse !Selfhosted
should it be in NAND or NOR??
Why not both? My initial idea was to flash to NOR and then configure openwrt to a sort of "minimal usable state". That is, I'd have the basic functions required run my home network: basic routing between local networks and WAN. Then I'd copy that image to NAND and that would be when I installed the "extras", like SQM and whatnot. That way, if I ever broke it beyond repair, I could just flip the switches and copy the NOR back to NAND and start over with that minimal usable config.
I sort of followed my plan, but I think things have changed enough that it would not be the simple restart that I hoped it would.
I still think it's a good idea, though.
... my family still has these as actual WiFi routers. the coverage kinda sucks.
Brazil's judge orders Bolsonaro's arrest for allegedly plotting escape ahead of prison term
Brazil’s Supreme Court ordered the preemptive arrest of former President Jair Bolsonaro on Saturday, with a judge claiming he was intent on escaping just days before he was set to begin his 27-year prison sentence for leading a coup attempt.
The 70-year-old politician was taken to the headquarters of the country’s federal police in the capital, Brasilia, from his house arrest.
Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes, who oversaw the case, said in his ruling that Bolsonaro’s ankle monitor, which he has worn since July 18 for being deemed a flight risk, was violated at 0:08 a.m of Saturday.
https://apnews.com/article/brazil-bolsonaro-prison-arrest-d68ae43b99762c577efe7e6ba20b0542
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How stupid can you be?
Dude's already gotten a sweetheart deal after a literal coup attempt.
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'Rewarding Russian butchery' — US lawmakers rail against Trump's Ukraine peace deal
'Rewarding Russian butchery' — US lawmakers rail against Trump's Ukraine peace deal
"Rewarding Russian butchery would be disastrous to America’s interests," U.S. Senator Mitch McConnell said.Asami Terajima (The Kyiv Independent)
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There is even a reference to "denazification"
Edit: point 6
- Humanitarian issues
- “All-for-all” prisoner exchange, including civilians and children.
- Humanitarian programs and family reunification.
- Educational programs on tolerance.
- Rejection of “Nazi ideology” (as stated in the document).
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Their Programming is now "we need to avoid WW3, Russia will nuke us, we need to avoid unnecessary bloodshed, it's got nothing to do with us"
A bunch of them instantly became bleeding heart pacifists because wearing that hat let's you say the things best things for the current news cycle.
I think I saw one or two people trying to say this has always been the conservative position. I mean what's America first but being anti war? It's like different trumpers just sit there in a plastic box waiting to be activated. Crickets when conservatives are doing X, Y, Z, but then suddenly these things appear when it's convenient. Hey everyone, these magats didn't call for political violence! These magats have always been against foreign wars!
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Canada and the EU are quietly reinforcing NATO’s northern flank -- [Opinion]
cross-posted from: scribe.disroot.org/post/573548…
This is an opinionated piece by Andrew Latham, professor of international relations at Macalester College in Saint Paul, Minn., a senior fellow at the Institute for Peace and Diplomacy and a non-resident fellow at Defense Priorities in Washington.
Addition to insert the official statement by the Canadian government: Security and defence partnership between the European Union and Canada
Archived link...
Canada and the European Union have signed a new Security and Defence Partnership focused on cyber defense, maritime security, hybrid threats and industrial resilience. It may sound like bureaucratic routine, but in fact it represents the next step in the evolution of Canada’s grand strategy: a consolidation of its northern vocation as an Arctic and North Atlantic power.
For years, Ottawa’s strategic posture has been scattered — globalist rhetoric masking an absence of focus. That era is ending. With this agreement, Canada is beginning to align its diplomatic and defense priorities with the geography that truly defines its security: the northern approaches.
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The partnership builds on decades of cooperation but carries new strategic weight in a world of revived spheres of influence. As Russia militarizes the High North and China pushes Arctic shipping and data routes, Canada and Europe are binding together their defenses of the North Atlantic and Arctic seas.
The focus on cyber resilience and hybrid threats echoes the growing anxiety about undersea cables, satellite networks and energy infrastructure — the connective tissue of modern power that is increasingly vulnerable to disruption.
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The industrial side of the partnership deserves more attention than it has received. The joint declaration calls for stronger supply-chain integration, cybersecurity cooperation and joint production in key sectors such as munitions and aerospace. This is not just about trade; it is about strategic endurance.
The U.S. is straining to supply both Ukraine and its Indo-Pacific posture. Europe is rearming but remains dependent on fragmented supply lines. Canada’s integration with Europe’s industrial base offers a way to build redundancy into the alliance — to strengthen the defense-industrial fabric that keeps deterrence credible in a protracted contest of attrition.
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Canada’s partnership with the EU is an act of adaptation, not defection — a recognition that the Arctic and the North Atlantic are now central theaters of global power, and that securing them is both Canada’s duty and opportunity.
Seen through this lens, Ottawa’s strategic posture begins to look more coherent. The same logic that drove its focus on undersea cable protection, Arctic over-the-horizon radar and modernized continental defense now extends outward into transatlantic collaboration. Canada is not turning away from the United States but is reinforcing the northern shield that protects both continents.
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Canada and the EU are quietly reinforcing NATO’s northern flank -- [Opinion]
*This is an opinionated piece by Andrew Latham, professor of international relations at Macalester College in Saint Paul, Minn., a senior fellow at the Institute for Peace and Diplomacy and a non-resident fellow at Defense Priorities in Washington.scribe.disroot.org
Sudan war: Over 20 children die of malnutrition in a month in flashpoint area
Sudan war: Over 20 children die of malnutrition in a month in flashpoint area
The children's deaths in towns under a blockade that “prevents the entry of food and medicine and puts the lives of thousands of civilians at risk.”TRT Afrika
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Reddit’s r/Art implodes as mods resign after controversial artist ban | The Express Tribune
The r/Art subreddit erupted after artist Hayden Clay was banned for mentioning prints, leading to big mod walkoutsThe Express Tribune
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US tells NATO if Zelenskyy does not sign peace deal Ukraine will face worse in future
US army secretary briefs ambassadors at ‘nightmare meeting’ in Kyiv on Friday after talks with Ukrainian leader
US officials have told Nato allies they expect to push president Volodymyr Zelenskyy into agreeing to a peace deal in the coming days, under the threat that if Kyiv does not sign, it will face a much worse deal in future.
The US army secretary, Dan Driscoll, briefed ambassadors from Nato nations at a meeting in Kyiv late on Friday, after talks with Zelenskyy and taking a phone call from the White House. “No deal is perfect, but it must be done sooner rather than later,” he told them, according to one person who was present.
The mood in the room was sombre, with several European ambassadors questioning the content of the deal and the way in which the US had conducted the negotiations with Russia without keeping allies informed.
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Ukrainian Support for War Effort Collapses
New data from Ukraine show the public favors ending the war with Russia through negotiations, as support for fighting until victory has plummeted.Benedict Vigers (Gallup)
…yeah. Did you read the article? Of course no one wants to be at war, especially when that war is going on at home. But ceding the territory the Russians invaded, amnesty for war crimes committed, and Russian as the official language? The US and Russia were the only ones negotiating, without Ukraine, without other allies.
This is Russia and the us strong arming—together—Ukraine into accepting a terrible deal. Trump has been negotiating for Russia and with Ukraine the whole time.
All of this is you speculating what Ukrainian citizens want and what they don't want out of a negotiated peace.
For example, regarding Russian as the official language, in some eastern regions of what was Ukraine up to 2013, such as Crimea, Donets and Lugansk, there was a majority of people who considered themselves ethnically Russian. After the annexation of Crimea by Russia, many of these people wanted an independence referendum, quite parallel to Catalonia but regarding annexation to Russia. This was antidemocratically forbidden by the central government in a clear violation of the human right to self-determination, and instead in these regions, which formerly had the possibility to access public education in Russian, this stopped being the case and Ukrainian became the only language in which people could attain an education.
This doesn't justify Russia's invasion, don't get me wrong, but I don't think I'm in a position to criticize negotiation attempts when a vast majority of Ukrainians desire it, without knowing exactly what they would be willing to give up in exchange.
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Face worse? They are going to get invaded a second time? Because yes, that is the fear and why they won't sign shit.
"HEY, BULLY, AND NERD, STOP FIGHTING EACH OTHER! I DON'T CARE WHO STARTED IT, JUST GIVE HIM YOUR LUNCH MONEY OR IT WILL BE WORSE TOMORROW!"
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Second? Crimea was the first, this is second.
Russia is hoping third time is the charm
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Look, as much as a genuinely hate Russia, maybe talking about imperial conquest in the 20th and 21st century is not a fruitful line of argument when it comes to comparison with the USA. Just saying. In a perfect world, Russia, the US, and China simultaneously collapse, and also India and Pakistan, and most other countries, and out of it springs a new epoch of civilization where we distribute resources fairly and equitably, and we come to our senses, and decide on societal goals that we want, instead of letting the market decide what we get, and explore the solar system and have nice robots that take care of us while we smoke weed and bask in the Utopia that we have within our reach if we so but decide to grasp it.
But that's just fucking me.
Nah not just you. For the record I trend anarco communist ideologically. There shouldn't be offices with any more concentrated power than mayors. And plenty of them should still have less power.
Reddit astroturfs and whitewashes for western oligarchs generally. The fediverse has it's own whiney whitewash crews. And it's important to acknowledge and push back against. Fuck the governments, power to the people.
Then we're similarly aligned.
I'm just thinking, at the end of it, sounds like more or less a return to a nomadic hunter-gatherer lifestyle. Which I'm personally perfectly fucking fine with. But like, we don't have to abandon knowledge. Just the system that is destroying our planet and our societies. Capitalism and humanity don't scale.
And, if we're speaking freely with one another, I think that there is no case where this machine won't be coming crashing down one way or another in the short term. People say "people have said that since millennia", and they have, and guess what, a lot of the times they got fucking destroyed, not everyone is still around right? To me the writing has been on the wall for some time, friend, at some point something in this massive global intricate mechanism is gonna go POP, and the whole fucking machinery breaks down.
Remember back in, what was it -97, when an electrical failure blew out most of Northern America for like 10 days straight or something? I don't, I'm probably wrong about the dates and duration, and one could argue that we have "better redundancy" today, but just look at Texas back when- power grid failed, people froze to death.
I don't know really where I'm headed with this, I just know this- if capitalism "succeeds", then that is the end of our run, because the only end game for capitalism is more, like a cancer. And if it fails, well, same boat. In either case, we are going to hit a fucking brick wall, or drive off a cliff.
Workers of the world, unite. Get a gun and a shovel, both are gonna be needed.
Oh, it's not about abandoning knowledge or being nomads or anything like that. Not that it's wrong if people want that sort of thing. But more about flat granular, answerable government. You can and still should fund and encourage research and science under a system like that.
It's about not having a large government or business telling you that you are to be sacrificed. Tough luck as they dump the negative externalities onto you. More star trek less 1million BC.
But human nature and society has a lot of evolution to do before then. So until then, it's important to keep concentrated power to a minimum. That's the one thing most abusive governments share. Unanswerable people at the top, sending down commands according to their whims or ideology. Regardless or especially because of who it hurts. See trump and immigrants or Xi an uhygers/Tibetan's/hongkongers or democracy advocates in general.
It's like that saying, I don't know if it was Carl Sagan or who it was who said it, and I paraphrase- our technological development vastly outpaces our cultural development.
These old power structures cannot hold 8 billion people in a modern society run on digital communication, they were never designed for it. We need a new system, a whole new model, and then some way to spread that model organically, grass roots like. I have been thinking about it a lot.
Thanks for sharing- if I may ask you, what kind of society do you envision? What form and shape would it take? Do you have a realistic idea of what you would want to see?
Yeah cooperation is kind of important for humans, I agree that there's not enough of it and that we are governed by a financial system that actively promotes competition and strife instead.
I think what you say, you are listing in a sense ideals. "More cooperation, more tolerance, encourage curiosity and passion", basically "cut people some slack", and I agree with that. I started out going to say, if you ask any person of any political conviction what kind of society they would want, they would all say something along the same lines- peace and understanding.
But then I thought about it for a moment and decided that in fact, people would answer very differently. Not in the goals but in the definitions and paths- "I would like to see more cooperation between multinational businesses and trade agreements allowing them to merge, I would like to see more tolerance for my personal bigoted beliefs, I would like people to be curious and passionate about the Nation's path to racial supremacy".
I believe that people like you and I, let's say idealists, see the goals of cooperation and equality as ends in themselves. I believe that other people, the salt of the Earth kind, you know, morons, only see goals as instrumental for the agency of expressing their own personal dispositions.
I don't know if that makes sense. I'm kind of drunk.
Aaaah shit man I forgot how many times they've already done that, my bad. Like, remember that time when they signed a sovereignty agreement with Russia in exchange for their nukes post 1991? I remember that, in that they said that, the agreement was that, give up the nukes to Russia, and you won't be invaded.
Then they got invaded.
Twice?
Am I still off by the count? Because I seem to recall something from the 2nd World War where they starved the country to death but I'm drunk so forgive me if my memory is foggy I'm sure someone will set me straight
The best way to get the truth is to confidently tell a falsehood online.
Slava Heroyam.
Especially when you're just a little befuddled and get it mostly right, then a friendly person like you comes along and makes sure all the belts and shoelaces are tied. 😀
Slava.
consider trump has been with the soviets since the late 80s, plus since nobody would loan him money since he stiffs banks, so only through DEUTSCHE BANK AND THE russians that were giving him money, and yes his casinos were involved in the laundering too. its also likely russian has the epstein files too, why not, because EPSTEin also deals with other people to blackmail them.
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I have been doing a deep dive into Melania's family origins and I have strong reason to suspect her father was if not directly KGB then most certainly an informer or asset. I believe she was recruited and assigned into a pool of women whose job it was to get in the circles of such people as Epstein and the likes, in order to latch on to potential targets over a long period of time.
I mean it's basic cold war stuff, I don't know why people pretend like the cold war ended at all.
This is a hail Mary for Putin. He knows his goose is cooked if Russia doesn't win, and the only way he can win is if Trump forces Ukrain to surrender.
The bad news for Putin is that everybody already knows this, and also knows that Trump can't really do much except act like the assclown that he is. The Europeans aren't going to reward Putin. And they know that Trump's days are numbered, and each of those days is going to show more cognitive decline and increasingly grotesque displays of megalomania, even if one of his many other crimes and scandals doesn't render him incapable of further outrages.
And whether it's Trump or Putin who goes first, the other will soon follow. They are propping each other up, and the whole arrangement is unstable.
You know when all those conspiracy nuts yelled about "globalism"? They thought it was some underground "one world government" shit coming to fruition by some secret cabal of super wealthy billionaires, and then it turns out, well, economy is more powerful than any democracy or form of government in the world, so the guy with the most dollars get the most say.
Suddenly, you have a world of suckups who do anything for money. Look at that fuck Van Der Leyen. These people are not meant to rule. Shit, they are not fit to run a fucking company, it's just echoes of Feudalism where everybody builds their own economic little fiefdoms, because functionally, there is no way for laws to keep up with the dynamics at play in finance, and since finance and power are interchangeable, you can leverage either, to get more money, or more power, or both.
Europe's idealism runs deep, but over time, capitalism will always subsume efforts according to its own machinations.
They own the means of production, they own the product of production, and they own us. Big club, we ain't in it.
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I think they were kinda right about globalism. Though it's not in the form of a secret organisation meeting in a big dark Dr Evil lair. They don't have to meet because their goals are the same. Make as much money as they can, ideally not off each other but off the little guy. Though sometimes there's a bit of a fight between them, they are mostly aligned.
But the end result is really globalism and it has given large corporations way too much power.
Globalism, as far as I am concerned, is capitalism. Capitalism is that great equalizer. It supersedes national law and our democracies. Money is power, right? If money is power, then capitalism is a form of government, and it runs the world. Every country. All of them. The market controls our countries. Gotta grow, or you gonna hit recession. What does that mean, grow? In perpetuity? More production? More goods? More mined materials? More more more more more? And if you don't grow enough on a quarter by quarter basis, then you lose.
What is the end game of capitalism?
When are we done?
What is the purpose of all this?
Is anyone steering this ship, or are we just seeing where money takes us?
Because it feels like the latter might be the one Big Case we need to fucking fix. Wealth. Our conception of ownership, our markets, our monetary systems, they need a big fucking overhaul. The only thing keeping capitalism in check is laws. But capitalism bypasses laws, because if you have money, not only can you get away by buying yourself out of consequences, if you have enough, you can rewrite the very laws themselves.
Look I know I've been rambling a bit in this thread, but I swear, it is time people wake up to the realization that if we wanna survive as a civilization, the concept of money, wealth, and production needs to be fundamentally revised.
And there is no worse than Russia getting territory from an European perspective. It just gives Russia free reign to start again but with EU members this time. So doing this means war, probably nuclear within a few years (France put into it's rules of engagement that countries on which France depends economically getting attacked conventionally are de-facto under the french nuclear umbrella as it would be protecting "the interests of the Nation").
So accepting this diktat means nuclear war.
What is the worse outcome than nuclear war they are talking about?
why they won't sign shit
69% of Ukrainians are in favour of a negotiated end to the war as soon as possible.
Ukrainian Support for War Effort Collapses
New data from Ukraine show the public favors ending the war with Russia through negotiations, as support for fighting until victory has plummeted.Benedict Vigers (Gallup)
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It's so poorly written. A document like that is an important legal document, but it reads like it was written by an undergrad
Just embarrassing for the US to put out a document like that
but it reads like it was ~~written by an undergrad~~ translated from Russian by ChatGPT
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How exactly is this going to be worse? Putin keeps a bunch of territory, gets welcomed back into the global economy, Ukraine gets hard limits on NATO membership and they're on military in exchange for a weak non-guarantee of security. You could sum the whole thing up as 'let's all agree Russia won'.
It's bullshit. It legitimizes military conquest of territory. The only compromise should be that Russia stops their illegal invasion, Russia's internationally held funds are 100% given to Ukraine for reconstruction, and the border territories get to hold a vote to decide which country they want to be a part of.
As this is now, it's just legitimizing the occupation. As an American I am very disappointed that our President would push such a thing.
It’s bullshit. It legitimizes military conquest of territory
Look, don't get me wrong here, I'm Ukrainian on my fathers side, but that line of argument doesn't quite hold water when you look at what the US has been up to for the past 100 years. In some sick sense, I get it, it's like, Putin is saying, fuck you, if the US can wage wars of conquest, so can we.
Clearly not as successfully, but I understand how you could defend that rationale. Jesus christ don't think I'm defending the Russians here, I'm just saying, for real like. Slava Ukraini.
US is certainly no angel. Saying that as an American.
At the same time, there's a difference between shit we did in the 70s (and so did many other nations including RU) and today. In this millennium the closest we came to conquest was Iraq but we dumped that pretty fast.
'We're going to conquer this territory by force and add it to our own' hasn't been an internationally recognized valid move in decades. We should not validate it.
At the same time, there's a difference between shit we did in the 70s and today.
No, there is not. You literally are funding genocide in Palestine, and every year half a million people are killed by US and EU economic sanctions.
Yup. And the only reason for Russia to insist Ukraine never join NATO would be so Russia could attack them again in the future without consequence.
Exactly.
There are definitely examples of US military boondoggle projects that didn't result in high end military equipment getting made, but I think it is safe to say there are quite a few individual military tools and vehicles, supply chain notwithstanding, that are amazing triumphs of technology that have no equal.
You can definitely make the case that the volume and overall scale of our military production are excessive in the extreme, but I think to remain intellectually honest, we must admit that they are good at what they do, even though what they do is not always good.
Again, who has China couped or fought in the past 40 years? Does China have military bases in the "Gulf of America"? Because the US does have military bases all around China's sea.
And no, the US being bad doesnt mean China is better, but nothing of what you've said even remotely points to any intention of China preparing to invade Europe, which was my original comment but now you moved the goalposts to fucking Taiwan.
China trolls are always the worst when it comes to trolling. Repeating the tired old script ad verbatim. The Russians are cleverer.
Add the word to your vocab, bot, ad verbatim.
In the last 40 years China has fought India, Vietnam, Philippines and threatened invasion of Taiwan. It has also fought in Mali, Lebanon, Sudan and Liberia.
China has military bases in Cambodia, Djibouti and Tajikistan.
Oh, I see, you're being laughably dishonest by comparing border clashes (99% of conflicts post-1985) and support to Mali against literal ISIS, to actual wars and invasions such as that of the US in Iraq, or outright genocide funding as is happening in Palestine.
Are you being dishonest on purpose to pursue your ideological goals of western imperialism, or are you propagandized enough that you'd even remotely consider comparing border clashes with conflicts the caliber of the total invasion of Iraq?
Because Europe has had half a decade to fill the void and they can't get it done and continue to act like cost efficiency is the name of the game.
Europeans seem to want to rag on about the US being irrelevant while being completely unwilling to put their money where their mouths are.
I am very supportive of Europe, but they need to wake up to that reality and stop bickering about pennies.
They should have been at wartime production years ago, and yet they still don't even have a 5th let alone 6th gen fighter jet.
The fact that the USA, who is currently chopping its own legs off, is managing to provide just about equally to the Ukrainian war effort to you, who are literally neighbours, should be embarrassing and sobering, but instead people just keep complaining and expecting the US to both shut up, and fix it.
Your claim that US and EU aids are about equal is false.
Total Aid to Ukraine by Country
Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.World Population Review
Your Dropped link, but the data is not clear.
Here we can see that USA gives less militarily and financially.
Total Aid to Ukraine by Country
Discover population, economy, health, and more with the most comprehensive global statistics at your fingertips.World Population Review
If there is a peace deal to be brokered by outsiders, it should be through NATO without the USA. Europe still vaguely recalls what came of the Versailles Treaty, so EURO-NATO would at least try to make sure things turn out alright.
Any deal that is conceived by the USA is inherently bad, because the Childfucker In Chief wants to molest the world and to fill his pockets with misbegotten gains.
As horrible as it would be, if Ukraine never backs down and ends up going down in flames it will at least serve as a historical reminder of what happens when you treat the USA as a friend. This is a mark that would not be erased easily; Nazi Germany is still thought of and talked about almost 100 years since it happened, and Backstabbing USA would be no different.
People will remember why Ukraine fell, and they will know who not to trust. The USA has spent a long, long time getting the world hooked on their technology and aid, and in one short year Trump has torn a lot of it down to the point that people globally are actively looking for alternatives.
I mean, that was his goal. Either destroy trust to weaken our position globally for the benefit of someone else,
It's not for the benefit of someone else though. Trump wants to intentionally destroy the US government by destroying its credibility both within and abroad. He does this by cutting foreign aid and pissing off all the US' former allies, and by terrorizing the US population.
His goal is to destroy the US as an institution because his key voters, which are southeners, think that they were forced to partake in the United States against their will back in the civil war from 1800, and that they should have a right to secede, and if it's not given to them freely, they have to destroy the entire US just to get away from it.
I'm inclined to disagree because I doubt he's working for any voters. If he's leaving office, he gains nothing from their support and if he's planning to stay then splitting the country also weakens him.
Further, sentiment among the southern population is very different from the civil war era.
Trump is simply Putin's stooge. But it appears that Vance might actually believe, or finds it convenient to pretend to believe, the bullshit about one-sided alliances.
Funny that the one actual one-sided alliance is with Israel, and that's never questioned by the MAGAdiots in charge.
Per chance it could instill , inversely & conversely for all to aspire to betterness with no bitterness.
We really can’t (In the USA) understand the gravitas’s of said scenarios until theses ICE jackboots began hitting the ground full force in these brutally bullshit manners.
The planet is kinda upside down for a moment.
Just remember ya’ll this is a thrill ride and it’s way more real for some than others.
By that I mean I am eternally grateful and mindful of the safety of that which I live daily life.
For some on this planet
will never know or even comprehend such profound luxury.
Just a reminder to share kindness & love for no particular reason.
And most importantly, we need to cover each other’s asses & backs!
Just because.
Art of the deal
Trump always backs down, Zelensky should call and see what he's holding at this stage. Russia has always been the USAs biggest bogeyman, I can't actually see them pulling out completely
In terms of land occupied, Russia has gained maybe an additional 1% of Ukraine in the past year of very bloody fighting. The strategic situation is harder to read, but Ukraine has definitely damaged Russia's ability to earn money from its main export (fossil fuel) and has also done a lot to complicate Russia's ability to supply its troops and to maintain its occupation of Crimea. In addition, other developments have made Russia's enclave in Kaliningrad more vulnerable, which means it has less use as a base in the Baltics, and required more money to be spent to supply and guard it.
On hte other side, Ukraine is in pretty rough shape too. But for Russia, it's a war of choice, whereas for Ukraine, it's a more existential matter.
So I'll leave it to experienced analysts to decide who's worse off. At very least, Russia has not turned the corner and the war remains at an impasse for now.
So it's like a knife fight: the loser is whoever bleeds to death first.
A deal with Russia isn't worth the paper it's written on.
This war is only even possible because they've already violated an agreement they had with Ukraine. It would be insane for Ukraine to agree to a different deal for safety when they already did that and got back stabbed.
Meanwhile Europe will push Ukraine not to sign the deal (not that much persuasion will be necessary) because Europe doesn't want to set the precedent that Russia can just eat away at Europe.
As for the threat from the US that Ukraine will get a worse deal if they don't sign, given how crap the current deal is, I can't see how it could reasonably get any worse, unless it's total surrender, but that won't fly because there would be literally no point even considering that. The Trump administration really are useless at negotiating, they think they can strong arm Ukraine, but they don't actually have any cards.
Russia probably won't be finished but you can still punch a bully in the mouth.
Nuke this, nuke that, if my country actually held true to the Budapest Memorandum none of this would have happened. We already bailed on Ukraine once.
America is such a pathetically weak country led by compromised pedophiles.
Americans can kindly go fuck off under a rock in the ocean.
Cowardly cunts, then entire fucking lot of you. Enjoy your new control under Russia pussies.
I literally have no horse in this race, but I still feel sick to my stomach thinking "please don't cave in to this asshole and completely waste that many lives and years for nothing"
This is a make or break moment when Europe has to tell America to fuck off or it'll be absolutely heartbreaking.
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene will resign after fallout with Trump
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene will resign after fallout with Trump
Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene supported a bill compelling the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files by the DOJ, putting her on the bad side of President Trump.Dan Mangan (CNBC)
Cross-social app
I know that by using my instance website i can do it but i'd like to have an app.
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GitHub - DimensionDev/Flare: All your Mastodon, Bluesky, Misskey, X, RSS feeds, in one APP.
All your Mastodon, Bluesky, Misskey, X, RSS feeds, in one APP. - DimensionDev/FlareGitHub
Thank you! I am gonna follow the project to see if there is any development for Lemmy
Edit: i don't see Lemmy in the roadmap sadly...
with a single account (isn't that the point of the fediverse?).
Absolutely not.
I'm not sure why people see Lemmy, Mastodon, Pixelfed, Peertube, Loops, etc as all the same thing that should all be one app.
They might communicate with the same protocol, but they have vastly different uses, interfaces, styles, and experience. It's like saying you want one vehicle that drives like a motorcycle, haules the kids around, gets great mileage, and can tow 20,000lbs.
All your tools fit in the same toolbox, but you use each one separately for the use it's best suited. Then you put it down and pick up another. Sure you can make a multi-tool but it won't do any job as well as a proper dedicated tool. It'll just kinda work if you have no better option.
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Police charge 11 protesters after climate flotilla prevents coal ship from entering Newcastle harbour [Australia]
Thousands of protesters, including Australian Greens leader, gather for annual climate protest in world’s largest coal export port
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How far can we go?
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Wie weit schaffen wir es dieses Mal? - Fediverse ExperimentHow far will it go this time?
This post from #Mastodon can reach the whole #Fediverse, #Bluesky & more.
That's #Sharkey, #Misskey, #Pixelfed, #Mbin, #Lemmy, #Friendica, #Hometown, #Akkoma…If you see it, please share it.
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Australian Coalition’s tortuous decision to abandon the climate target was built on a big lie
Coalition puts internal politics above all else
Two thoughts come rushing to mind as I attempt to follow the ridiculous and irresponsible machinations of the two opposition parties over Australia’s climate targets, especially net zero by 2050.John Hewson (The Saturday Paper)
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New Zealanders are leaving the country in record numbers, mainly to Australia
ABC News
ABC News provides the latest news and headlines in Australia and around the world.Alice Angeloni (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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It's almost entirely the cost of living VS income, very little to do with politics.
I don't know how to describe how stupid leaving NZ for Australia because of politics would be.
there is no cause for alarm, noting that global workforce flows continue to bring skilled migrants into the country
Hey USA, this is the time. Not next year, right. This. Minute.
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I'd love to move to NZ but your immigration laws are insane...
I'm austrian and it's basically impossible to move to NZ for me
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When I was in NZ it was a fabulous country with really friendly people. Even the cops.
But this was 20 years ago. Though it sounds like it was a great place under Jacinta too.
Ignore the doomer. There are some ratty old houses around, but there are also plenty of places that are modern and well insulated. We've had something of a building boom over the last few years, driven in large part due to changes in zoning rules, so a huge number of town houses and apartments have been built. It's also possible to retrofit insulation to an extent, which we've done in our house. We now have underfloor and ceiling insulation, as well as double glazed windows.
A lot of rentals have been retrofitted wherever possible, as there are now minimum standards for rental properties.
There's a lot of things the Ardern government failed on. Cost of living, cost of housing, both to rent and to buy, child poverty, they all got measurably worse under her government.
She's viewed far more favourably than she deserves to be, especially internationally where their failures didn't make the news.
A businessman-cum-conservative leads the country since 2023, in coalition with far-right populists.
After two terms of Labour government.
Pretty much the same happened in my country, and yes, the effects are palpable, esp. if you work in the public or social sector.
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Yeah, it must be quite jarring to go from this badass
to Kiwi Trump in just a couple years!
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Left got complacent, while the right stoked fear with lies and propaganda.
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Obama was not a badass, he was a charismatic young illegal drone striking war criminal who reversed course on several key campaign promises.
He wasn't Trump, but he wasn't a leftist workers hero, you deserve and should demand better than Democrats.
Also, there was a lot more hope than change.
Ultimately, Obama did a perfect job executing neoliberalism. And by demonstrating the outcomes of neoliberalism when perfectly executed, I think he also executed neoliberalism in the other meaning.
Something to remember when reading these headlines, is that Australia is a ridiculously wealthy country, in large part due to mineral wealth, and anyone in NZ can just go there and get a job.
It has almost nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with making more money.
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If that's the case why is it record numbers now?
Australia has had mineral wealth for a very long time, that's nothing new.
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That's fair, but that's due to politics.
Wealth and quality of life are hugely dependent upon the politics of a place.
Which form of politics is correct is a debate that has existed since forever, but there's no getting away from the fact that politics determines wealth, quality of life, and ultimately whether people wish to immigrate, emigrate, or stay put.
Well, that and the weather 😝
I have some bad news for kiwis coming over here...
Here are some raw official statistics:
stats.govt.nz/information-rele…
After having a look at the graphs: The data looks pretty normal and is within the previously observed boundaries.
On a side note:
1. +1 for the goverment website, other countries could learn from that
2. Also nice to have non US news here for once
International migration: July 2025 | Stats NZ
Annual net migration was 13,100 (± 1,400) in the July 2025 year, compared with a net gain of 63,600 (± 200) in the July 2024 year. Migrant arrivals were 140,500 (± 1,000), down 20 percent, and migrant departures were 127,400 (± 1,100), up 14 percent.www.stats.govt.nz
In the 1970s, when the NZ Prime Minister Robert Muldoon was asked about the high numbers of New Zealanders leaving for Australia he replied:
"It raises the IQ of both countries".
Just brilliant!
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Do men do not want better worker rights? Are they all turning Christian and Muslim? Or is this only related to their support of LGBT+ efforts?
This shit and the people writing it get uplifted only because they say something that aligns to what we already believe, but it is of very little value.
OPs comment was not very constructively phrased.. But it actually pretty much is that simple.
However, most right-leaning young men will not be brave enough to actually ask women their opinions on divisive issues, and open enough to listen and consider their own assumptions could be wrong ('maybe my dad is a misogynist.. maybe I was raised to believe things that just aren't accurate'). Those ideas are confronting and take a lot of emotional maturity.
Being in this demographic, I don't get this. How is right wing even an option, how do you tell yourself you're okay with all the bullshit they're pushing. I get if you were already right-wing, chances are you'll stay like this, but how do you even go from 'everyone should have rights' to 'maybe we should cripple ourselves, the rich deserves more'.
Shit's wild
Calling our opponents dumb is being polite, or maybe a psychological defense mechanism against the horror of the alternative.
If you are dumb it's not your fault. You didn't, know better. If you are ignorant you can learn.
If you are smart and you still made the choices knowing the outcomes, then we have to go to other explanations: greed is the next least bad, and certainly it plays a part, but honestly that doesn't usually follow. The vast majority of conservative supporters have no chance to benefit from their policies, so we have to go further to find an explanation.
Cruelty. They want the suffering, the death, the destruction of human potential. Or maybe sadism. They enjoy inflicting pain and deprivation.
The mind recoils, so we call them dumb, because the world in which the ignorant masses are being misled by nafarious elites is less soul crushing to contemplate than the world where the masses act out of cruelty and sadism.
If you are dumb it’s not your fault. You didn’t, know better. If you are ignorant you can learn.
This works because you consider intelligence as something congenital, but I am of a different opinion.
It is just an opinion, I am not a sociology scholar, but at least maybe we can agree than if I turn out «intelligent» it's thanks to the resources and attention that I have received as a child.
Take it as a joke, but let's say: I am intelligent because my mother always read me novels in bed before sleep, and found pride in doing maths by thought. What about who didn't receive this privilege?
I don't intend by this to nullify the individual agency. But maybe you should be open to teach if you want others to learn. Because it would have only taken the lack of that little pushes in the right direction, and I would also be «on the other side».
Yep.
I have a graduate degree, been left/progressive my entire life. Only in the past few years have I been told, to my face, that I'm a bigoted ignorance stupid piece of shit. It's almost as if the left has gone off the rails and basically thinks anyone who won't vote for them should f off. And they wonder why they don't get votes or population.
I used to be proud to be a Democrat. Ever since Clinton I've been ashamed and all the party has done is double down on their stupid sexist bullshit.
I remember talking about how clinton was a bad candidate and was going to lose in 2016. all i ever got in reply was 'you're a sexist piece of shit'. yeah, god forbid i be critical of clinton's shity campaign, and her crappy policies that alienated huge swaths of america.
But it hate to be judged negatively if I say that spreading stickers saying «FCK AFD» is not doing any good. Those guys get so much free advertisements…
I remember growing up in the 90's being told by friends, family members and teachers that I don't need or deserve help because everything is easier for a man, or being told by my boss that she won't promote men because she doesn't trust men with money, or women being mean to me because of my gender and then telling me it's payback for things they read men did to women decades ago. And then when I try to talk about these experiences, people telling me they don't believe me, or they didn't happen, or they don't matter.
And I remember, as a kid, saying "one day there's gonna be a whole generation of boys who grew up around women like you, and they're going to want payback".
Well here we are. Keep blaming internet propaganda.
Not once have I experienced even one of those things
You are playing anecdotical as much es the person you reply to.
Maybe a big amoint of men who turn right in Europe and US have experienced this?
I'm not the one who needs to prove his assertion.
Maybe it's a bunch of bullshit that that guy made up to justify his imagined victimhood?
He dated his "experiences" in the 90s, you fucking dumbass. Lol. You guys are so stupid! How the fuck is that an explanation for the political trends of the last few years?
You guys lie so much, you'd think you'd be good at it by now.
But there is no compassion, no good faith. One would rather opt for the group that does not complain about him all the time.
If you try to fit in progressive spaces, you get told that everything you do is wrong.
What a bunch of fucking bullshit. You guys are so transparent.
You only get told you do something wrong when you do something wrong.
How about you learn from it instead of claiming that is all you do?
i have been progressive my entire life.
however, the desperate need to exclude men and see them as inherently evil is a more recent issue. like the past 10 years. in the 2000s i never encountered this outside of extremists... now it's mainstream in liberal spaces to basically view men as evil and awful inherently. the only 'good men' are those who subordinate themselves entirely to the leftist hypocracies and deny their masculinity as evil.
I have also been in situations that led me to distance myself from certain groups and extremisms, but really it was not an anecdotical observation; more like a general one.
More than anything, we (humans) long for being accepted.
The bar for men in progressive spaces might now have been set too high. You don't educate a dog by hitting it with a stick.
Frustrations grow in Russia over cellphone internet outages that disrupt daily life
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When Russians look back at 2025, they might remember it as the year when the government took even tighter control of the internet.Credit cards that won’t buy a ticket on public transport. ATMs that don’t connect to a network. Messaging apps that are down. Cellphones that don’t receive texts or data after a trip abroad. Mothers of diabetic children even complain with alarm that they can’t monitor their kids’ blood glucose levels during outages.
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With gloomy pictures showing people using their phones and looking unhappy, contrasted with people walking together holding hands and smiling.
(Seen on Jake Broe on youtube.)
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Boo hoo. While your culture makes lives miserable worldwide, you have slow internet.
God Russia is a hell hole.
The background: Ukraine didn't have 30 years to refine its cruise missiles and long range strike drones - they built them in 3 years.
There are many ways to make a missile navigate.
- it may follow terrain features (hard, you need to thoroughly map a country using a fleet of satellites)
- it may take readings from a satnav system (this can be jammed)
- it may scan for mobile phone towers and match their ID codes to a map
Once a missile has the direction of 2..3 towers confirmed, it knows where it is - and where to go. Crashing into the final target uses machine vision, but getting there does not.
As a result, Russia tries to counter them by shutting down mobile networks. Not sure if it works. Going by the news, doesn't seem to work very well.
As for how to avoid exfiltration of mobile network data - hopeless. People have so much spyware and crap on their phones that you don't need to put an agent on ground to get a list of towers. You just buy out a smartphone app from a shady supplier and develop it into a rootkit, or sell rooted phones on the cheap in the target country.
Mind-altering ‘brain weapons’ no longer only science fiction, say researchers
Sophisticated and deadly “brain weapons” that can attack or alter human consciousness, perception, memory or behaviour are no longer the stuff of science fiction, two British academics argue.
Michael Crowley and Malcolm Dando, of Bradford University, are about to publish a book that they believe should be a wake-up call to the world.
They are this weekend travelling to The Hague for a key meeting of states, arguing that the human mind is a new frontier in warfare and there needs to be urgent global action to prevent the weaponisation of neuroscience.
“It does sound like science fiction,” said Crowley. “The danger is that it becomes science fact.”
The book, published by the Royal Society of Chemistry, explores how advances in neuroscience, pharmacology and artificial intelligence are coming together to create a new threat.
Mind-altering ‘brain weapons’ no longer only science fiction, say researchers
UK academics say latest chemicals are ‘wake-up call’ and urge global action to stop weaponisation of neuroscienceMark Brown (The Guardian)
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but, we know that propaganda exists, tired when they make up science fiction scenarios for things that already exist and are ignored.
Fuck, AI is one of the most powerful propaganda tools. way too many people rely on some AI to form their opinions, as long as they aren't as obvious as Gork, their propaganda is incredibly powerful.
“The tools to manipulate the central nervous system – to sedate, confuse or even coerce – are becoming more precise, more accessible and more attractive to states.”The book traces the fascinating, if appalling, history of state-sponsored research into central nervous system (CNS)-acting chemicals.
This sounds like propaganda made into steroid form, quite literally.
Rybbit - Open source Google Analytics replacement
Hi guys, I've been working on a self-hostable web analytics platform since the start of this year after being frustrated with Google Analytics and Plausible.
I've packed a bunch of cool web analytics features into Rybbit, but I've tried very hard to keep the interface simple to use,
Check it out!
GitHub - rybbit-io/rybbit: 🐸 Rybbit - open-source and privacy-friendly alternative to Google Analytics that is 10x more intuitive.
🐸 Rybbit - open-source and privacy-friendly alternative to Google Analytics that is 10x more intuitive. - rybbit-io/rybbitGitHub
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Neat stuff, it's this a long-term project?
Yea, we use a client-side script like almost everyone else. The major difference is that we don't use cookies so you can avoid a lot of the cookie banner/GDPR nonsense.
Rybbit definitely isn't the first open source cookieless web analytics platform (Plausible and Umami are the two other big ones), but it's probably the most "all-in-one" of all these alternatives.
GoAccess - Visual Web Log Analyzer
GoAccess is an open source real-time web log analyzer and interactive viewer that runs in a terminal in *nix systems or through your browser.goaccess.io
Posthog makes it almost impossible to actually self-host since they try to push you onto the cloud as much as possible. They say that the self-hosted version only works well up until 100k events ... which is insane since their cloud free tier is 1 million events.
It's actually the reason why I built Rybbit. I tried to self-host posthog on my server but it ran it up to 100% CPU on 8 cores and didn't even work.
Ok posthog rant done.
The other main difference is that Posthog has like 10+ different products all in one. Their web analytics is good, but it's just kind of bland (imo) because it's not their main focus.
You mentioned being frustrated at Plausible. What did you not like about it?
I haven't tried Plausible, but it seemed popular
Question is the self-hosted version less featured than the paid hosted version?
This looks amazing btw.
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I appreciate the intent behind Rybbit, but I have to respectfully disagree with the "only very slightly so" characterization. Looking at your official comparison table, the self-hosted version is missing:
- Pages View
- Web Vitals
- Email reports
- Google Search Console integration
- VPN/Crawler/ASN tracking
- Google/GitHub OAuth
- Email support
That's 7 significant features—which seems more than "very slightly" different.
More importantly, this raises AGPL compliance questions. Under AGPLv3 Section 13, if users interact with modified AGPL software over a network (your cloud version), you're required to make the complete corresponding source code available to those users. If these cloud-only features are integrated into the same AGPL-licensed codebase, withholding them from the public repo while running them as a network service appears to conflict with the license terms.
There are really only two compliant scenarios here:
- These features exist in the public repo but are just marketed as "cloud-only" (in which case the comparison table's misleading)
- These features are truly separate proprietary code that interfaces with Rybbit without being part of the AGPL-licensed work (which would require careful architectural separation)
If it's neither—if these are AGPL-covered features running in your cloud service but withheld from the repo—that's exactly the "loophole" the AGPL was designed to close. The irony is that you criticized Plausible and Fathom for having "much inferior self-hosted versions," yet this appears to be a similar approach.
Could you clarify the licensing status of these cloud-only features? Are they in the public repo but disabled by default, or are they proprietary additions that don't derive from the AGPL codebase?
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Thanks for clarifying! Good to hear everything's in the repo and that it's truly AGPL compliant.
Since as self-hosters we already carry the burden of maintenance, updates, security, and infrastructure costs that cloud users don't, would you consider documenting how to enable the cloud features in self-hosted setups?
I see the docs cover basic environment variables, but not for Pages View, Web Vitals, or VPN/ASN tracking. Even if some features need extra config (SMTP, OAuth creds), having that documented would help those of us willing to do the work.
That would truly differentiate Rybbit from Plausible/Fathom—not just code parity, but empowering self-hosters with full feature access.
Cloud features aren't just a toggle away for self-hosters because setting CLOUD=true enables unwanted restrictions like Stripe billing endpoints and event limits—it was intended as a binary switch for enabling the entire cloud infrastructure.
Rybbit wasn't architected so self-hosters could modularly enable advanced features. To solve this, I've forked the project and made all enterprise features modular and enabled by default, so people can test them.
Of course, it would be desirable that @Goldflag implements this himself because I'm sure he could do it more elegantly and maintain it properly as part of the official project going forward.
GitHub - antebudimir/rybbit: 🐸 Rybbit - This is a fork of the original Rybbit project. I created this fork to enable enterprise features for self-hosted instances that were previously cloud-only.
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That's misleading. While copyright owners aren't bound by their own license, AGPL Section 13 requires that when they run AGPL software as a network service, they must make the complete source available to users.
The AGPL was specifically designed to close the "SaaS loophole." Being the copyright owner doesn't exempt you from AGPL's network service requirements if you're distributing under that license.
Licensing representation matters
It doesn't, because they're the copyright owners. Think of their software as dual licensed: They run it themselves under a proprietary license, under which they reserve all rights. That has nothing to do with the AGPL version that they license to you. The AGPL doesn't take away the rights they have as copyright owners, nor does it preclude dual licensing.
(Are you a bot? Your reply is written like ChatGPT, and it has that self-defeating logic that ChatGPT has sometimes.... eg. you wrote that you disagree with me, but then parroted the exact thing that I said.)
Plausible is at least honest about it being an "open core" business model. They openly document what's missing and why (funding sustainability).
The premium features are likely not in the AGPL repo at all - they're genuinely separate proprietary code. They seem to be AGPL compliant because they're transparent that community edition is a subset, not claiming "everything's there, just toggled off".
Clickhouse definitely takes a lot of resources! There's unfortunately no way around that, though in my experience it runs fine on the cheapest Hetzner instances which are like $3-4 a month for 2GB of RAM. How lightweight is your VPS?
And yea, you don't need clickhouse for a simple static site. I chose clickhouse because it Postgres or MySQL does not scale well since the main site I personally use Rybbit for sends around 20 million events a month.
It pains me to plug my competitors, but check out Umami or Goatcounter if you want a platform that uses postgres.
Hey thanks so much for the engagement. I was trying to run it on a VPS that cost $35/year. 2GiB of RAM wasn't quite enough to make it work for me, granted that was with the webserver and ancillary supporting services.
I'll find an opportunity to test it out though, as rybbit looks great. I appreciate the mention on the other FOSS products, that's a good look for you. I have plenty of experience with umami already. Cheers!
Aways a fan of alternate options, this looks quite tidy! I had a few thoughts / queries. Not at my system right now but I will test it out later.
I noticed in the screenshots you have a "users" page - but with a cookieless tracking system I would have assumed it wouldn't be reliable to identify a long term user past individual sessions? Are you doing some hefty finger printing?
Looking at your features table has a few statements that might need adjusting. Such as GA4's segmentation sequencing / filtering can be quite complex, I'd argue its not limited and potentially more advanced than Rybbit (not tested yet). It also has a user exploration feature.
Do you have any plans for a drag and drop style report creation, so that I could create reports with any dimensions / metrics and filter accordingly? I think that would bring a lot of flexibility to the platform for an individuals bespoke needs.
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Its a docker compose deployment so should just work on any system with docker installed. Copy the docker compose file and env file if it has one, and run 'docker compose up -d' in that directory.
It can collect analytics from multiple places.
Docker is a security risk? … excuse me, what? Can’t you just, idunno, secure the environment that docker runs in? Use rootless images? Use immutable images?
And, are you asking for something that runs on bare metal? Couldn’t you just install the ISO that the dockerfile uses, then convert the dockerfile logic to an sh script?
In its default state i think thats fair. Example docker bypasses most firewalls as it runs before iptables rules process. So if you don't either use 127.0.0.1:port:port (many compose files offered by projects do not do this) or add specialized iptables rules to fix that up you can end up directly exposing services with meaning to or even realizing.
And yeah privilege escalation etc. There are solutions like what you mentioned but it can be a lot of work to set all that up so most people won't
You can verify the checksum to ensure the contents pulled are exactly the same as what was published. You can also use a private container registry.
How exactly would docker pull be any more insecure than something like pip install? Or, really anything… Let’s go with your preferred alternative, how are you going to get it on your machine in a more secure way than docker provides?
Docker uses TLS with registries, layers and manifests have cryptographic digests, checksums, and you can verify the publisher yourself. Push it into your own registry if you want, or just don’t use latest.
Yeah, that's the insecurity I'm talking about.
If you want to know how to implement this properly, look at apt. Its a known issue in docker; they just haven't prioritized the fix yet (DCT)
What are you talking about, “yeah that’s the insecurity I’m talking about.”
I didn’t mention an insecurity and neither have you. Would you mind being a little more clear than “Docker pull is insecure?”
Frankly, I was expressing confidence in dockers security. It goes without saying though, any user can do insecure things like download from untrusted sources. That’s not dockers problem though, it’s the users.
Edit: I see now that you added “it’s the download that’s not verified.” Integrity is verified, so I assume you mean authorship (via signing)? I guess you’re saying that, if admin credentials are stolen from a container publisher and the thief force pushes malicious code into the registry under a pre-existing tag—then you would be exposed to that?
Even in that case, though, a digest cannot be overwritten. Tags can. So you’d just pin the digest to avoid this one attack vector?
You’re making big claims on security here, like “cannot be done,” and each time you do I feel like we’re talking past each other a bit. I never claimed you can verify that the person who pushed the container had access to a private key file. I claimed you can verify the security of a container, specifically by auditing it and reviewing the publisher’s online presence. Best practices. Don’t upgrade right away, and pin digests to those which can be trusted.
When you pin a digest, you’re not going to get a container some malicious agent force pushed after the fact. You pinned the download to an immutable digest, so hot-swapping the container is out the window. What, as I understand, you’re concerned with is the scenario that a malicious actor (1) compromised the registry login beforehand, (2) you pinned the digest after hand, and (3) the attack is unnoticed by you and everyone else.
I’m trying to figure out under what conditions this would actually occur, and thus justifies the claim that docker pull is insecure. In a work setting, I only see this being an issue if the process to test/upgrade existing ones is already an insecure process. Can you help me understand why I should believe that, even with best practices in place, Dockers own insecurities are unacceptable? Docker is used everywhere and I’m reluctant to believe everyone just doesn’t care about an unmanageable attack vector.
I was curious and, yeah, it seems like docker hub not requiring signature means many popular publishers don’t bother to sign. But that’s not to say it can’t be done. For example: github.com/sigstore/cosign
Today, cosign has been tested and works against […] Docker Hub
GitHub - sigstore/cosign: Code signing and transparency for containers and binaries
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The same advantages as all free and open source solution, it's free and open source. That means how much it's going to cost to your business is directly under your control. You can make a decision on how you acquire hardware based on your business's needs. If you want to add or change features you can decide how to do that based on the deals you have with your programmers (like pick the developer you have with the best skills and the lowest cost), and then you get to control how much it costs you and how reliable the result is going to be.
If you feel like the support you get from customer service from Amazon or Google or Microsoft is reliable enough and you don't need more reliability then go ahead and stick with paid products. But if you already have a team of really expensive and talented engineers you might as well let them solve problems with free and open source equipment.
GitHub - plausible/community-edition: Example Docker Compose setup for hosting Plausible Community Edition
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in reply to Otter • • •Not a direct answer to your question, but: the sun (like the earth) has areas that are more "geologically" active; those areas tend to throw out solar flares. As the sun rotates, the area that throws out these solar flares slowly faces toward the earth (solar maximum) then slowly rotates to face away from the earth (solar minimum). The solar cycle is roughly eleven years long.
Currently, we're just slightly past solar maximum. For the past year or so, the "more active" part of the sun has been roughly facing earth and intermittently spitting out solar flares. When these flares hit the earth's atmosphere, they cause auroras (which is why we've had so many auroras these past couple years) and can interfere with electronic and electrical equipment (see: the Carrington event).
I have no details on what l the exact damage that was caused by the interference the plane suffered, nor any knowledge of how they plan to address the issue. But whatever they come up with is going to take some time to develop - and we're moving away from solar maximum so being hit with a massive flare is increasingly less likely - at least for another decade. My suspicion is that they'll come up with a "solution" that actually may not work very well, but it works well enough to give the impression that they're doing something - and it'll look like it's working to some extent, simply because the active side of the sun is rotating away from us.
Otter
in reply to aramis87 • • •Appreciate the write-up, thanks!
I found this diagram, and this should mean that the levels will drop by around 2030?
Source: stce.be/news/453/welcome.html
Preliminary prediction for the new solar cycle 25 | STCE
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in reply to gravitas_deficiency • • •I think the website is old, and the blurry bits were a prediction
A different color and a legend would have been nicer imo
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in reply to Otter • • •Here's a better one. We just passed the predicted maximum point
swpc.noaa.gov/products/solar-c…
Solar Cycle Progression | NOAA / NWS Space Weather Prediction Center
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in reply to aramis87 • • •This doesn't have anything to do with the sun's rotation. It actually rotates once every 28 days. The solar maximum and solar minimum are just phases in activity caused by internal activity.
PlutoniumAcid
in reply to aramis87 • • •I work in the software industry and I have a guess regarding what the might do to "fix" the problem.
First, we look for the cause, but in this case it is external: we can't prevent solar flares. So we will turn to mitigation instead:
Data gets flaky and erratic unter radiation, so what we would do is to double- and triple-check the data bits. By adding more levels of data correction, more bits can be wrong and we can still figure what it was supposed to be.
Adding more corrections means more overhead and slower performance, but it can still be made to work within the given constraints of real-time processing. They will need to find a balance between hardening and usefulness.
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in reply to PlutoniumAcid • • •Sounds like SEE (single event effect) if it's something fixable by software.
TID (total ionizing dose) is another flavor of radiation effect on components, but that's a total lifetime effect where it slowly degrades. Using rad hard parts or adding extra shielding is the main fix.
SEEs are transient effects from high energy charged particles that can cause bit flips and latch ups in circuitry depending on where the particle hits and deposits it's charge in the circuitry. Extra shielding can help prevent these as well, but they can also be mitigated in software, sometimes the fix is just error detection, or power cycling a specific section of circuitry to clear a latchup
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in reply to 9488fcea02a9 • • •I think I read that the issue is relatively new thanks to a software update (speculation in another thread, so questionable veracity). So perhaps a change that wasn’t flawed by itself but by bad luck combined with this radiation sensitivity to make the issue significant.
But also solar flares are kind of rare, especially on the stronger end, so easy to imagine bug reliant on them sitting idle for years.
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