Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.

Attendees

• Julian (@julian@activitypub.space)
• Ted Thibodeau Jr (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com) // GitHub:@TallTed // Mastodon:@TallTed
• Jesse Karmani (jesseplusplus@mastodon.social)

Agenda

1. Mastodon context issues (backfill not possible at the moment)
2. Context (topic/thread) deletion and moving between audiences (communities/categories)
   
   • Draft FEP for the above

   
   

3. Deleting entire tree vs. one post. with_replies or Remove(Context)?
4. Cross-posting (stalled?)

Mastodon context issues

• Backfill not possible, context remains null
• Claire and David are aware, can this be reproduced locally? @jesseplusplus
• Mastodon keeps track of the conversation, but not what the root-level ID is; Frequency keeps track of the parents. This was new to Mastodon codebase (all internally)
  
  • Possibly the code shared for this is not working
  • Jesse will take a look (diff b/w Decodon and Mastodon)
  • Ted: in-reply-to tracking is akin to parent tracking
  • Jesse: Not quite; Mastodon now tracks root-level ID (that's the piece that might not be working.)

  
  

Mastodon reading context?

• The other (harder) half: FEP f228
• Jesse made David aware of the possibility of using f228 to backfill
• Asked whether this would conflict with existing reply tree crawling — suspect it will not.
• Expected 6–12 months out (or more)
• tl;dr — no update available, but none was expected either.

Context Relocation and Removal

• Pre-Draft FEP
• ActivityPub.Space Discussion
• Genesis of this FEP from needs of ActivityPub.Space. It bridges Microblogiverse and Threadiverse by importing discussions by hashtag (#activitypub among others)
  
  • Lots of curation needed as people tend to use the #activitypub hashtag when discussing non-AP things
  • Also non-English content, etc. (ActivityPub.Space is English-focused as we have two mods, Julian and another temporary mod from toot.wales/IFTAS)

  
  

• Pre-draft shared with Rimu (rimu@piefed.social) and Felix (nutomic@lemmy.ml) for their thoughts, discussion (linked above) started last night for some additional input.
• No opposition to Move(Context) as it is not a functionality that is implemented by anybody at the moment
  
  • Hooray for greenfield AP dev!

  
  

Out-of-band discussion

• Remove(Context) received some pushback from Lemmy. This was expected as both Lemmy and Piefed currently use Delete(Object)
• Felix is recommending that Delete(Object) can supply with_replies property to explicitly denote that the entire reply tree is to be deleted.
• Julian is recommending that Remove(Context) be used to explicitly denote that the reply-tree/container itself is removed, context can be resolved to determine which exact object IDs to delete if needed, Remove also tells you which audience/community it was removed from.
• Rimu OK with either approach.
• Felix raised objection to the wording that Delete(Post) is shown under "backwards compatibility" — Julian will update to reflect equal priority on both approaches.

ForumWG discussion

• Julian admits that it is likely much much easier for Lemmy to update their handling of Delete vs. creating a new handler for Remove.
• Julian notes disconnect with current behaviour (Delete(Object)) and new behaviour (same, but with_replies) and the actual effect (removal from the community); you cannot actually delete someone else's content because it does not satisfy same-origin constraint (yes, sometimes, but not always.)
• Currently at an impasse as to how to proceed, but Julian encourages parties present to contribute to the discussion and review the FEP.
• Would prefer alignment as opposed to supporting both Remove and Delete(Object) w/ replies given that it is unlikely both will be implemented widely.

Action Items

• [ ] Jesse: investigate null context issue; Mastodon
• [ ] Julian: Revise and publish FEP f15d

Relevant Mentions

melroy@kbin.melroy.org bentigorlich@gehirneimer.de

TallTed - Overview

Technical Evangelist for @OpenLink / @OpenLinkSoftware. Mac Geek. Human Middleware. Shamanic Witch. Shapeshifter. Singer. Drummer. Dancer. Dreamer. - TallTed

^GitHub

cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/39867577

Israeli attacks kill six people across Gaza, with 16 others injured, in the past 24 hours. Yasser Abu Shabab, leader of Israel-backed gang, is killed. Israeli tanks roll into Gaza City. Israel and Hamas trade casualties in Rafah. Israeli forces used bulldozers to hide the bodies of Palestinians killed while seeking aid at Zikim. President Donald Trump says the ceasefire is “moving along.” Israel strikes four towns in southern Lebanon in a new military operation announced Thursday. Lebanon and Israel hold first direct talks in 40 years. Israeli raids near Tubas in the West Bank. Israel is building a fence through the Jordan Valley, on the model of its West Bank wall. DHS launches another raid in a major American city, this time in New Orleans. Trump pardons Democrat Rep. Henry Cuellar on his bribery case, primarily because he shares his right-wing immigration views. Legal experts warn Microsoft about its complicity in the Gaza genocide. Changes in medical record-keeping at the Department of Veterans Affairs portend disaster. Romanian navy intercepts a Ukrainian-manufactured drone. Indian police kill 12 Maoist rebels in Chhattisgarh. A bomb in northwestern Pakistan kills three police officers, while Afghanistan-Pakistan talks stall. Fighting intensifies in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.

Peter Link

2025-12-04 18:48:09

Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans

Israeli attacks kill six people across Gaza, with 16 others injured, in the past 24 hours. Yasser Abu Shabab, leader of Israel-backed gang, is killed. Israeli tanks roll into Gaza City. Israel and Hamas trade casualties in Rafah. Israeli forces used bulldozers to hide the bodies of Palestinians killed while seeking aid at Zikim. President Donald Trump says the ceasefire is “moving along.” Israel strikes four towns in southern Lebanon in a new military operation announced Thursday. Lebanon and Israel hold first direct talks in 40 years. Israeli raids near Tubas in the West Bank. Israel is building a fence through the Jordan Valley, on the model of its West Bank wall. DHS launches another raid in a major American city, this time in New Orleans. Trump pardons Democrat Rep. Henry Cuellar on his bribery case, primarily because he shares his right-wing immigration views. Legal experts warn Microsoft about its complicity in the Gaza genocide. Changes in medical record-keeping at the Department of Veterans Affairs portend disaster. Romanian navy intercepts a Ukrainian-manufactured drone. Indian police kill 12 Maoist rebels in Chhattisgarh. A bomb in northwestern Pakistan kills three police officers, while Afghanistan-Pakistan talks stall. Fighting intensifies in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.

Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans

Drop Site Daily: December 4, 2025

^{Drop Site News}

The suspect has been charged with placing the bombs, which did not detonate. The allegations, if proven, would end a longstanding mystery that sparked a multitude of conspiracy theories over who planted the pipe bombs before a mob of pro-Trump supporters stormed the Capitol aiming to stop Joe Biden from being installed as president.  Authorities have not yet determined a motive, a law enforcement official said. But the suspect has been linked to statements in support of anarchist ideology, said two people briefed on the arrest.

The FBI’s case against the suspect is not based on a new breakthrough, according to two sources, but instead on a review the FBI conducted in recent weeks of evidence that had already been gathered and which the department had in its possession. The sources requested anonymity to speak freely about a sensitive case. That voluminous trove of material was largely collected in 2021 and 2022.

FBI arrests suspect in Jan. 2021 pipe-bombing case 

Authorities say the suspect placed viable explosive devices outside the RNC and DNC offices the night before the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot. 

^{Ken Dilanian (MS NOW)}

One of Chicago’s newest police sergeants had been deemed “unfit to serve” after an investigation uncovered evidence that he created a fake Facebook account and spread a nude photo of a woman he was sexually involved with, then lied to investigators about it.

Another new sergeant had been found to have engaged in conduct that “seriously undermines public faith, credibility, and trust in the Department” after he was accused of sexual assault and domestic violence.

The officers’ promotions this spring were not due to an oversight. Department officials knew about their disciplinary records, but those records could not be considered as the department evaluated their fitness for promotion.

Chicago Promoted Two Police Officers After Investigators Found They Engaged in Sexual Misconduct

The Chicago Police Department’s promotions system allows officers’ disciplinary records to be ignored. Despite years of reform efforts, nothing has changed.

^{cengiz.yar@propublica.org (ProPublica)}

The enhanced premium tax credits set to expire at the end of this year have been at the center of recent tensions in Congress, with Democrats calling for a straight extension and several Republican lawmakers vehemently opposed to the idea. Their inability to agree on a path forward fueled a record 43-day government shutdown earlier this fall.

President Donald Trump and some Republicans in Congress have circulated proposals in recent weeks to offer a short-term extension or reform the Affordable Care Act, but no plan has emerged as a clear winner. Meanwhile, the window for Americans to shop for next year’s plans is well underway with less than a month to go until the subsidies expire.

KFF’s poll reveals that marketplace enrollees — most of whom say they would be directly impacted by the subsidies expiring — overwhelmingly support an extension. The survey found this group is more likely to blame Trump and Republicans in Congress than Democrats if the tax credits are left to expire.

https://apnews.com/article/affordable-care-act-health-insurance-kff-poll-c2ff791e32c6768c871ee9131770261d

archive.ph/PX9NF

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-11-17/ai-are-deepseek-moments-now-the-new-normal

Bonus video of Swiss-German in the wild included. If you think German sounds harsh, you'll love the Zuerich dialect. At least it's all done in sing-song fashion, as is called for.

A real-world trial by scientists in Switzerland has demonstrated that wireless EV charging can achieve up to 90 percent efficiency compared with conventional cable-based systems, while offering far greater convenience.

Supported by the Swiss Federal Office of Energy and the cantons of Zurich and Aargau, the project, called INLADE, was carried out by researchers from Empa in collaboration with the electric utility Eniwa AG.

Through this first-of-its-kind initiative, the team tested wireless inductive charging under real-life conditions in Switzerland. They are certain that what has long been routine for phones and electric toothbrushes could soon become a reality for EVs.

“The aim was to test the existing technology in everyday use, clarify technical and regulatory issues and demonstrate its potential for the energy transition,” Mathias Huber, from Empa’s Chemical Energy Carriers and Vehicle Systems lab, said.

Wireless EV charging hits 90% efficiency in Swiss real-world trials

Swiss researchers have achieved 90 percent efficiency with wireless EV charging, proving inductive systems can match plug-in performance.

^{Georgina Jedikovska (Interesting Engineering)}

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2025-11-17/ai-are-deepseek-moments-now-the-new-normal

Using this userscript I made : git.kaki87.net/KaKi87/userscripts/protonmailWithoutAnnoyances

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ProtonMail allows scheduling and snoozing messages for free at preset times, e.g. tomorrow, next Monday, this weekend, etc., and always at 8, but makes people pay to choose a customized date and time.

I had a hunch that this restriction might only be implemented client-side, so I tried modifying the value in DevTools for the first time, and I couldn't believe it : that worked !

So, in order to automate this, I created a userscript that replaces the button press handler for the "custom" option, then lets you input whatever value you need, e.g. (next) Wednesday, (in) 30 minutes, (today at) 8 PM, Thursday at 7 (AM), etc.

Then, it lets the app believe that we're gonna schedule using the tomorrow preset, until it intercepts the request and swaps the time value with the user's choice.

Enjoy !

OC by @KaKi87@jlai.lu

80fbcfa1-9ac6-45bf-b80b-1ab5bb75a696.mp4

Partagé avec kDrive, le Cloud Éthique.

^kDrive

Members of OASIS Open, the global open source and standards organization, have approved the Open Document Format (ODF) for Office Applications V1.4 as an OASIS Standard, the organization’s highest level of ratification. ODF V1.4 improves developer documentation, adds new features, and maintains full backward compatibility.

The release of ODF V1.4 coincides with the 20th anniversary of ODF as an OASIS Standard. Over two decades, ODF has served as a vendor-neutral, royalty-free format for office documents, ensuring that files remain readable, editable, and interoperable across platforms. Governments and international organizations, including NATO, the European Commission, and countries across multiple continents, have adopted ODF for document exchange.

“ODF V1.4 is the effort to evolve the ODF format to its newer challenges, adding relevant clarification and additions to the existing ODF V1.3,” said Patrick Durusau, OpenDocument TC co-chair. “We are pushing hard to meet expectations of the Office software industry.”

OpenDocument V1.4 contains enhancements in accessibility, professional document formatting, and advanced functionality across text documents, spreadsheets, and presentations. Improvements include better support for assistive technologies, enhanced visual design capabilities, and expanded features for data analysis and technical documentation. These updates strengthen OpenDocument’s role as a comprehensive solution for modern workplace productivity and inclusive document creation.

“ODF provides a vendor-neutral foundation for office productivity and collaboration worldwide. With V1.4, the standard continues to evolve, supporting cloud collaboration, richer multimedia, and standardized security,” said Svante Schubert, OpenDocument TC co-chair. “The format will remain reliable across platforms for years to come. Looking ahead, ODF is moving beyond document exchange toward standardized, semantic change-based collaboration — enabling precise, meaningful sharing of interoperable changes across platforms.”

OASIS Approves Open Document Format (ODF) V1.4 Standard, Marking 20 Years of Interoperable Document Innovation - OASIS Open

BOSTON, MA, 3 December 2025 — Members of OASIS Open, the global open source and standards organization, have approved the Open Document Format (ODF) for Office Applications V1.4 as an OASIS Standard, the organization’s highest level of ratification.

^{Mary Beth Minto (OASIS Open)}

archive.is link

If you’re near Rochester, New York, the price for a carton of Target’s Good & Gather eggs is listed as $1.99 on its website. If you’re in Manhattan’s upscale Tribeca neighborhood, that price changes to $2.29. It’s unclear why the prices differ, but a new notice on Target’s website offers a potential hint: “This price was set by an algorithm using your personal data.”

A recently enacted New York State law requires businesses that algorithmically set prices using customers’ personal data to disclose that. According to the law, personal data includes any data that can be “linked or reasonably linked, directly or indirectly, with a specific consumer or device.” The law doesn’t require businesses to explicitly state what information about a person or device is being used or how each piece of information affects the final price a customer sees. The law includes a carve-out for the use of location data strictly to calculate cab or rideshare fares based on mileage and trip duration but not for other purposes.

The law also requires that the disclosure is “clear and conspicuous.” Target’s disclosure is not the easiest to find–a customer would have to know to click the “i” icon next to the price of an item, then scroll to the bottom of the pop-up. In the past, the courts have held that it’s not always reasonable to assume that a customer will click on “more information” links when it’s not required.

https://www.wired.com/story/algorithmic-pricing-eggs-ny-law/

The net benefit is put at just $24 billion or, using households as a proxy for families, a princely $181 per household spread over five years. The $925 figure, meanwhile, equates to less than 2% of today’s average vehicle price. Even assuming it were actually realized, at $3 per gallon it would be eaten up by extra gasoline costs within three years.

...

In the real world, relaxing mileage standards, along with the earlier removal of penalties for missing them, will spur Detroit to sell more of the higher margin, lower fuel-economy, trucks and SUVs at the core of its business model, as opposed to shifting production toward smaller, cheaper models.

The fuel economy standard being repealed is one that's incredibly beneficial to consumers — it both encourages the production of less expensive vehicles, and saves on fuel costs.

New Fuel Economy Rules Won't Save Drivers Much

The Trump administration has hit upon an unorthodox solution to the cost-of-living crisis: Pumping more gasoline. Executives from Ford Motor Co., General Motors Co.

^{Liam Denning (Bloomberg)}