KDE Going all-in on a Wayland future
cross-posted from: lemmy.world/post/39342270
Well folks, it’s the beginning of a new era: after nearly three decades of KDE desktop environments running on X11, the future KDE Plasma 6.8 release will be Wayland-exclusive! Support for X11 applications will be fully entrusted to Xwayland, and the Plasma X11 session will no longer be included.
Maduro: US Imperialists are After Latin America's Strategic Resources
November 18, 2025
I ask him how he interprets the current context of pressure, slander, and threats against Venezuela. As he drives carefully in the gentle Aragua twilight, he tells me:“They have gone to great lengths to craft a new narrative—that of narco-terrorism—but, at its core, it’s the same thing they’ve always done: create a pretext to kill a hope. Remember, for example, that in 1954, they accused Jacobo Árbenz, the democratically elected President of Guatemala, of being a “communist” because he had implemented a modest agrarian reform. They orchestrated a coup, a military intervention, and overthrew him. Several decades later, they apologized, acknowledging that Árbenz was not a communist and that they had made a mistake…”
“Ten years later, in 1964, in Brazil, they did the same thing to President João Goulart… And they apologized again a few decades later… And in 1965, they did the same thing again in the Dominican Republic with President Juan Bosch. They accused him of being a ‘communist,’ invaded the country with some 20,000 marines and OAS forces. And many years later, they again acknowledged that Juan Bosch was a true democrat and that the invasion was a mistake. And in 1973, the same script in Chile, against President Salvador Allende. And the same belated apologies.
Maduro: US Imperialists are After Latin America's Strategic Resources - Mexico Solidarity Media
The President of Venezuela gives a wide-ranging interview in which he reiterates his commitment to dialogue for peace, but emphasizes Venezuela is prepared should Washington decide to attack.Mexico Solidarity (Mexico Solidarity Media)
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Americans are holding onto devices longer than ever and it's costing the economy
Americans are holding onto devices longer than ever and it's costing the economy
Americans are holding onto devices longer than ever before, and while it may be consumer smart, it comes at a cost to work productivity and the U.S. economy.Kevin Williams (CNBC)
Could VPNs Be 'Banned'?
With the UK apparently floating ideas of a VPN ban it's got me worried about the future of anonymity online. Now people have already pointed out that a VPN ban doesn't make sense because of all the legitimate uses of one and wouldn't even be enforceable anyway, but that got me thinking.
What if governments ordered websites (such as social media sites) to block traffic originating from a VPN node? Lots of sites already do this (or restrict your activity if they detect a VPN) to mitigate spam etc. and technically that wouldn't interfere with "legitimate" (in the eyes of the gov) VPN usage like logging onto corporate networks remotely
It's already a pain with so many sites either blocking you from access or making you jump through a million captchas using VPNs now. I'm worried it's about to get a whole lot worse
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To go a little further, I used the example of heroin and machine guns in my other reply, but there are lots of countries where people licensed to use these (or technology that’s similar like oxycontin) are allowed or there exist analogs (like bump stocks or binary triggers) that avoid the law.
Heck, in the us any knucklehead can get on the good boy list for heroin or machine guns they just need to pass a bunch of checks and submit to a series of audits and inspections.
The point of banning vpn use would be to keep people from using the technology to skirt identity laws, not to prevent the use of the technology altogether, so it’s likely any ban would take the form of legal wording that looks like “use of computer networking technology to conceal ones identity or aid or abet or perpetrate any crime is unlawful under this section.”
So again, yes they absolutely can do it and no it wouldn’t mean corporations would suddenly have to turn in all their edge devices.
I’m really surprised that on this instance no one has replied with the “laws are threats made by the dominant social economic class” copypasta. Fake ahh anarchists…
Can anyone end the Ukraine war if Kiev refuses every compromise?
Can anyone end the Ukraine war if Kiev refuses every compromise?
Why every attempt at a Ukraine deal collapses under pressure from Kiev and BrusselsRT
No, and again, that doesn't apply in any way. Russia isn't going to surrender when they are winning the war, it isn't a real option. Either Ukraine and Russia successfully broker a peace deal, or Russia continues advancing at an increasingly rapid pace. That's the reality of the situation, the war is increasingly unpopular in Ukraine and corruption from the Banderites in charge is causing erosion of support.
There isn't a realistic way for Ukraine to win millitarily.
How to transfer a lot of storage?
I want to transfer 80 TB of data to another locatio . I already have the drives for it. The idea is to copy everything to it, fly it to the target and use or copy the data on/to the server.
What filesystem would you use and would you use a raid configuration? Currently I lean towards 8 single disk filesystems on the 10 TB drives with ext4, because it is simple. I considered ZFS because of the possiblity to scrub at the target destination and/or pool all drives. But ZFS may not be available at the target.
There is btrfs which should be available everywhere because it is in mainline linux and ZFS is not. But from my knowledge btrfs would require lvm to pool disks together like zfs can do natively.
Pooling the drives would also be a problem if one disk gets lost during transit. If I have everything on 8 single disks at least the remaining data can be used at the target and they only have to wait for the missing data.
I like to read about your opinions or practical experience with similar challanges.
I'd use XFS as it's excellent at copying big files of data (7z. img/iso/qcow2, 4K Videos).
For large amounts of smaller files (Like photos, odt, and PDFs), I'd use Ext4.
U.S. Army secretary warned Ukraine of imminent defeat while pushing initial peace plan
U.S. Army secretary warned Ukraine of imminent defeat while pushing initial peace plan
The meeting between Army secretary Dan Driscoll and the Ukrainians was the latest example of the rift inside the Trump administration about how to end the war.Dan De Luce (NBC News)
“The message was basically — you are losing,” one of the sources said, “and you need to accept the deal.”
Are they losing?
For the past three years, the news from Russia has been about young men leaving the country because Putin keeps updating the laws around the draft/conscription to feed his war machine.
I'm sure Ukraine is in a similar position, but it doesn't sound like a clearcut win for Russia, either.
They are very obviously losing right now. Ukraine is suffering from a critical manpower shortage, the west is not able to provide them with weapons, the economic situation in Ukraine is unravelling, and there's a huge political scandal.
Meanwhile, the news from Russia for the past three years has absolutely not been that. Even Ukrainian media admits that kyivindependent.com/bloomberg-…
I guess UK regime propaganda is still trying to pretend otherwise though. Given that Russia isn't gang pressing people into service it's not clear what basis the Brits have for their bombastic claims.
The reality is that Russian economy is stable and growing, it's able to outproduce the west militarily, and its trade is now oriented towards BRICS. Given the stark difference between Russia and Ukraine in terms of available manpower, resources, and economy, it's pretty clear to anybody who can do grade school math that Russia is going to win the war.
Bloomberg: Russians who left abroad increasingly return home, boosting economy
Around 1 million Russians left the country after the start of the all-out war due to their opposition to the invasion or out of fear of mobilization.Martin Fornusek (The Kyiv Independent)
Given that Russia isn't gang pressing people into service
I wouldn't take that as "given".
And with the new law, draftees are immediately banned from leaving the country.Those who fail to show up at a recruitment office promptly will soon face a raft of new restrictions related to banking, selling property and even gaining access to a driver's license.
Already before the reform, people who refused orders to serve in the military have faced a possible prison sentence of up to 10 years. (NPR)
As part of their efforts to combat draft evasion, authorities earlier this year launched an electronic register of conscripts to serve online summonses in some Russian regions. They also introduced a series of legal restrictions for those who ignore the summonses, including banning their bank transactions, suspending their driver’s licenses and blocking foreign travel. (AP)
I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.
I wouldn’t take that as “given”.
There is zero evidence for that being true. Meanwhile, the fact that it's happening in Ukraine is very well documented responsiblestatecraft.org/ukra…
I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.
You're confusing the regular draft for the reserves that Russia has had since the soviet times with the war draft here. There was exactly a single time that there was a call up back in 2022.
Finally, you only have to consider the size difference in overall population. Even if there was the same rate of desertion on both sides, then Ukraine would still lose.
Ukraine's 'Busification' — forced conscription — is tip of the iceberg
Western media is largely ignoring that Kyiv has to rip young men off the streets amid recruitment shortages and desertionsIan Proud (Responsible Statecraft)
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Your responses have nothing to do with the parts of my comment that you're quoting.
In the first quote (I wouldn’t take that as “given”) I was responding to your claim that Russia wasn't press-ganging citizens into service. I then quoted two articles which themselves cited Russian sources (I'm pretty sure the State Duma is Russian) that said the Russian government was changing the draft rules and imposing severe penalties on people attempting to avoid the draft.
The second quote was pretty straightforward (I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.), so I don't know how you went from that to "confusing regular draft for reserves", but I'll respond to that, too.
I'm not confusing the regular draft for reserves. Both sources explicitly use the terms "draft" and "conscript" to describe the people I'm talking about.
And I directly addressed your claim explaining that there is no evidence of gang pressing happening in Russia, and that you were referring to the regular reserves draft that's been happening long before the war.
I’m not confusing the regular draft for reserves. Both sources explicitly use the terms “draft” and “conscript” to describe the people I’m talking about.
Yes, you are absolutely confusing the draft with the call up to the front line. I'm also guessing that you didn't actually read the article you linked because its says the same thing I'm saying:
The bill’s authors say the measure is intended to ease pressure on military conscription offices and streamline their activities, which includes performing the physicals and assigning conscripts to various military branches.Even though the bill will make conscription a year-round process, it stipulates that conscripts will enter military service only during a few spring and summer months as before.
All Russian men aged 18-30 currently are obliged to serve in the military for one year, although many avoid the draft by using deferments granted to students, those with chronic illnesses, and for other reasons.
Even your own source is admitting that there is no increase in conscription happening.
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You keep changing the argument you claim I'm making.
Here's the comment, as a reminder.
I called into question your claim that press ganging (coercion into military service) wasn't happening, by citing sources that the Russian government was changing the rules of the draft and imposing severe penalties on people who tried to avoid it.
The sources you cited literally support what I said:
Even though the bill will make conscription a year-round process, it stipulates that conscripts will enter military service only during a few spring and summer months as before.
Do you even understand what the term press ganging means?
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You've tried to move the goalposts twice now, by:
- Claiming my argument is about a "call up to the front line". (I've said draft/conscription since the beginning.)
- Claiming my argument is that an increase in conscription is happening. (I implied press-ganging was happening, and said nothing about a change in the amount of conscription happening.)
I am and have been ignoring anything you threw out that tried to weasel away from the central argument:
The Russian government is coercing (which is how press-ganging is used to mean in normal conversations; this is not an academic conference) people into military service.
Conscription/the draft already technically meets that definition, but piling on prison sentences, suspending drivers licences, banning leaving the country, and restricting bank transactions all make it clear that Russian men are being coerced into military service.
I have not moved the goalposts. My position has been perfectly consistent. You are misusing a loaded term to fabricate a narrative.
Let's be crystal clear since you are struggling with the definition. Press ganging is not a synonym for conscription. It refers to the illegal and forcible impressment of individuals into military service. What that looks like is kidnapping people from streets or their homes outside of any legal framework. That's what you implied is happening in Russia, and it is a blatant falsehood.
What you are describing in Russia is the legal process of conscription, which includes standard penalties for evasion. These penalties like fines, license suspensions, and travel bans are common consequences for dodging a mandatory draft in many nations, including many US allies. To call this press ganging is deliberate sensationalism.
Meanwhile, in Ukraine, the very phenomenon you mistakenly accuse Russia of is a well documented reality. There have been numerous verified reports of recruiters literally grabbing men off the street and from public transport to forcibly conscript them, often without any paperwork or due process. That is what actual press-ganging looks like. It is happening there, not in Russia.
Your argument tries to blur the line between a legal state run conscription system and outright criminal abduction. They are not the same. The goalposts have not moved. You are just trying to score a point on a field that does not exist in reality. The facts are clear, and your conflation of them is intellectually dishonest.
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That's three times now. We'll add:
- Claiming I'm trying to "fabricate a narrative" as if there's some massive conspiracy.
to the list.
Do you seriously think I'm some part of some government operation to "weave a story"?
I'm a rando on the internet who thinks Russia is coercing men who don't want to be in a war to become soldiers.
Whether they corner them with infrastructural tactics or send armed men in unmarked vans to kidnap them off the street is immaterial.
Whether these tactics are practiced by Russia or by "many nations, including US allies" is immaterial.
It would be press-ganging and coercion if Ukraine did the same thing. It's press-ganging and coercion if the United States does it.
Standing on ceremony behind a dictionary definition and whether government says it's legal is such a weird stance to take when the issue is these people don't want to serve in the military, and the government is coercing them into it.
The only person inventing massive conspiracies in this conversation is you. Now you can add straw man arguments to the growing list of nonsense you are producing.
I think you are nothing more than a troll who argues for the sake of it, without a single honest bone in your body. You are the epitome of a reddit debate bro, substituting sophistry for genuine argument in a pathetic attempt to score imaginary points. You are very transparent.
You keep trying to conflate two entirely separate issues, a sad attempt at an argument I have already dismantled in detail. You have brought forward nothing new and you're just regurgitating the same old drivel here. Take the L and move on.
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I think you are nothing more than a troll who argues for the sake of it, without a single honest bone in your body. You are the epitome of a reddit debate bro
You won't or can't address my argument above, so you switch to personal attacks.
You introduced the word "press-gang" and tried to turn this into an argument about the dictionary definition of the word.
You also tried to retroactively rewrite my argument. (You're not talking about the draft, you're talking about the reserves. You're not talking about the draft, you're talking about "calling up to the front line.")
And you claim that I'm trolling?
My position has been that Russia has been coercing citizens into military service and I've been consistent on that point.
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I’m also guessing that you didn’t actually read the article you linked because its says the same thing I’m saying:
Articles aren't for reading, they're for headline skimming so you can look like you have sources. If they fail, there's always another one to try, you can even pretend that means evidence is overwhelming!
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As part of their efforts to combat draft evasion, authorities earlier this year launched an electronic register of conscripts to serve online summonses in some Russian regions. They also introduced a series of legal restrictions for those who ignore the summonses, including banning their bank transactions, suspending their driver’s licenses and blocking foreign travel. (AP)
dude I've been reading about the ukrainians running kidnapping squads grabbing kids off the streets for like two years straight but uh yeah sure it's russia having manpower issues
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Whether or not Ukraine has kidnapping squads doesn't mean Russia can't also be having manpower issues.
Both can be true at the same time.
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I didn't say either of those things you're saying.
This is what I said :
I'm sure Ukraine is in a similar position, but it doesn't sound like a clearcut win for Russia, either.
If it's mirrored on both sides, then why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?
What you're doing is actually moving the goal posts, by the way
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why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?
I was bringing it up as a reason to think the case for Russia winning wasn't a clear slam dunk.
Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you're "obviously winning".
And before you make a claim about Ukraine resorting to conscription, too, at no point have I claimed Ukraine was "obviously winning" either.
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Why is that a reason, if that particular factor is a wash for both sides?
Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you’re “obviously winning”.
Uhuh. So when the Soviets were flattening Berlin they weren't obviously winning? When the US had sunken the entire Japanese Navy and were systemically saturation bombing the Japanese mainland, they weren't obviously winning?
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I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.
Lol, "because you don't like these extremely biased sources, I quoted some sources with the exact same extreme bias"
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I usually try to cite multiple sources because one or all may be biased, but it's less likely that multiple sources will misrepresent reality in exactly the same way.
It is possible, but it is less likely.
I quoted all three in my original response, and he only responded negatively to the one based in UK, implying that he considered the other two met some minimum standard of quality.
He also quoted those same sources in his responses to me. If he thought the same way you do, I would have expected him to dismiss them outright, like you are.
but it’s less likely that multiple sources will misrepresent reality in exactly the same way.
Not when you're selecting sources that all have the same bias. Like, how many sources are you citing that aren't Western neo-liberal and Zionist aligned? Zero.
implying
So he didn't say that, you're just assuming.
If he thought the same way you do, I would have expected him to dismiss them outright,
Or he would cite them to demonstrate that even media that shares your bias supports his position
It's possible, but he didn't say that, and our argument continued without your help.
It is weird that you're white-knighting so hard for him.
Why are you here?
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The NPR article I linked above was citing a Russian source.
The AP article was citing Russian legislation, which I assume (and I could be wrong) is public record.
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Putin backs US plan for ending Ukraine war as Trump gives Kyiv deadline to accept
President Zelensky says Ukraine faces one of the most difficult moments in its history, as the White House pushes its plan.BBC News
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Taiwan puts $40 billion toward buying US weapons and building a defense dome
Currently, Taiwan has set an increase in its defense budget to 3.3% of its GDP for 2026, allocating $949.5 billion Taiwan dollars ($31.18 billion). U.S. President Donald Trump has demanded Taiwan raise its defense spending to as much as 10% of GDP, a proportion well above what the U.S. or any of its major allies spend.Lai had previewed the announcement in an op-ed for The Washington Post on Wednesday, saying the special budget would be used to purchase arms from the U.S. He told reporters Wednesday, however, that the budget has nothing to do with the government’s tariff negotiations with the U.S.
US empire and wealthy capitalists aren't the same thing, although their interests sometimes align.
All the billionaires in Taiwan are Taiwanese.
Wealthy capitalists, if they're not based in the US, have moved to those places, not to Taiwan.
An intermediary.A native of a colonised country who acts as the agent of the coloniser.
I don't get the point you're trying to make.
I said the wealthy capitalists went to not!Taiwan because the billionaires in Taiwan were already there.
Who is or is not a comprador has nothing to do with where wealthy capitalists relocate.
I don't get the point you're trying to make
Then you're trying very hard not to get it. Try harder, I believe in you👍
I was saying that the billionaires were not moving to the island of Taiwan.
You're talking about US Empire, which, as mentioned in my other responses in this thread, is irrelevant to the physical movements of billionaires.
Even if Taiwan declared itself to be US Empire island #76, it would not change the fact that billionaires did not move to the island of Taiwan.
I was saying that the billionaires were not moving to the island of Taiwan.
Man, you really are a dishonest little troll aren't you: "oh I was just saying this thing completely unrelated to the topic at hand. Oh, you thought I had a point? Nope, just making random statements for no reason."
Fuck off
This was the statement I was responding to:
It’s basically an island that all the wealthy capitalists ran away to after China imposed economic democracy.
Here was my response :
Wealthy capitalists, if they're not based in the US, have moved to [Singapore (or Switzerland, or the UAE)], not to Taiwan.
Where was what I said dishonest or irrelevant?
Edit: reorganized for legibility
They aren’t caught between anything. Taiwan is very much aligned with western imperial countries. It’s basically an island that all the wealthy capitalists ran away to after China imposed economic democracy. They love America and America loves them.
Wealthy capitalists, if they're not based in the US
Are you talking about this part? If so, what I was saying was that billionaires moved to either the US or the three countries I mentioned.
That means the billionaires from China also did not move to Taiwan.
You can also look at the wiki for Taiwan's billionaires. Only one was born in China and not Taiwan (Hong Kong, specifically), and I'm pretty sure he moved to Taiwan way before the events we're taking about in this thread.
Zelenskyy faces the biggest corruption scandal of his presidency
On November 10, the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine (NABU) exposed an alleged $110 million corruption scheme at state-owned nuclear company Energoatom. The charges are supported by a fifteen-month wiretap and over seventy searches carried out as part of a major investigation called Operation Midas.
According to NABU officials, the investigation uncovered a criminal enterprise run by Timur Mindich, a film producer and a former business partner of Zelenskyy. Additional suspects include former Minister of Energy and recently appointed Minister of Justice Herman Halushchenko; former Naftogaz CEO and Deputy Prime Minister Oleksii Chernyshov; former Minister of Defense and current National Security and Defense Council member Rustem Umerov; and Ihor Myroniuk, former deputy head of the State Property Fund and former advisor to Halushchenko.
Mindich fled Ukraine the day before his premises were raided and is reportedly now in Israel.
Zelenskyy faces the biggest corruption scandal of his presidency - Atlantic Council
Amid Russia’s ongoing invasion, Ukraine in now facing the largest corruption scandal of Volodymyr Zelenskyy’s presidency over alleged kickbacks in the graft-prone energy sector, writes Suriya Evans-Pritchard Jayanti.Peter Dickinson (Atlantic Council)
Must've not looked into it very hard. A single search will reveal to you the same thing a much deeper dive into academic works will.
Did you not read or understand this part?
A single search will reveal to you the same thing a much deeper dive into academic works will.
My hard drive keeps clicking like files are being accessed but I'm not doing anything in that filesystem and the indicator light doesn't indicate any usage.
I'm running a NAS on Fedora Server with LUKS encrypted Btrfs hard drives in a USB-C multi-bay enclosure. I noticed that one or both of the hard drives keep making the same sound as when I'm lightly reading or writing files from it (the closest it sounds like to my ear is something like copying to a Wi-Fi connected device where there is a bottleneck somewhere other than the hard drive, so it has bursts of activity a few times a second between idle time). Using iostat -x on my two main hard drives, I do see periodic activity every 10 or so seconds but I'm definitely not accessing anything in them, and the activity indicators on the USB enclosure are still and not blinking to indicate activity.
Should I be worried about this? To my paranoid mind it feels like something is slowly reading my files with some exploit to bypass the indicator light to fly under the radar. But I just did a clean install of Fedora Server 43 (over the previous installation which was 42) and I never installed anything outside of the official package manager and Docker registry. I've also never had this issue on Fedora Server 42 as far as I know, and the NAS is on my desk so I feel like I would have heard it ages ago if it was something frequent. There's also no unexpected network activity on the Cockpit dashboard that would indicate that files are being uploaded, though I feel like if some malware can suppress the indicator light on a USB enclosure it can probably also hide its network traffic.
Is there something standard it's doing that could explain this? Like does Fedora 43 more frequently tell the drive's controller itself to do things like defragmentation or bit rot prevention when it's idle? That's the only explanation I can think of where the drive is clicking but no data is actually being transferred that would trigger the indicator light, since the operation would be entirely within the drive itself.
GitHub - martinpitt/fatrace: report system wide file access events
report system wide file access events. Contribute to martinpitt/fatrace development by creating an account on GitHub.GitHub
What dystopian surveillance things from your country you can't escape?
Or have to go through great lengths to escape.
In my country you can't buy any medicine without showing your ID... I mean, you technically can, but if you are registered they "give" like an 80% discount, so everyone thinks it's a great deal, not realizing that's the normal price, they are just pretending you can still go and buy a simple cold medicine without sharing your ID, phone, email, and street address with the drug store and whoever they decide to sell that information to, you just have to pay absurdly more. Yeah, you can lie about all the other information, but not really about your ID number. Probably soon, to get the "discount", you are going to have to verify your email or phone number as well.
Sidetracked a bit but last week I was in the UK. I tried to visit a website (not porn actually, just private messaging on BlueSky) and it asked to verify my age. Initially I thought "Meh... OK... let's see the process" which then lead to installing an app maybe (I'm not sure tbh as I was in rush). Clearly I didn't want to do it because the DM was potentially urgent (scheduling to meet someone ASAP) ... so what did I do? I switched from my browser to my VPN, connected from Austria, refreshed... no age verification. It took me a grand total of 5s to bypass the system.
TL;DR: maybe you can actually escape even though you are convinced you can't.
No, you're confusing trade itself for capitalism, and severely downplaying the immense siphoning of material wealth that goes on, especially at an international scale. Capitalists steal the value created by workers, workers are not on an even playing field with capitalists. They sell the only commodity they can, their labor power, while capitalists leverage their ownership of capital to fix labor prices around subsistence wages.
Regulation can't fix capitalism or save it from the tendency for the rate of profit to fall. We need to move onto socialism, where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and production and distribution are oriented towards satisfying needs rather than profits.
Not necessarily. Capitalism functions by the following circuit:
M-C...P...C'-M'
Money is used to buy commodities, such as machinery, raw materials, and labor power, then production happens, then higher value commodities are the result of said production and sold for greater sums of money. M' is fed back into this system, and M'' is output at the end, over and over. The increase in value comes from unpaid labor, ie wages that don't actually cover all of the value created, because capitalists cannot profit otherwise.
Socialist systems don't have equal pay for everyone (that isn't the goal to begin with), but also don't have this system of capital ownership as the principle aspect of their economies and as such private ownership is phased out over time in these countries.
I think you will see plenty of private ownership in any country. Unless you accept the paper only "public property" with a ruling class of "I am the state" philosophy.
Every country has billionaires, in capitalist countries they buy politicians and in authoritarian countries they are the politicians, but inequality is there nonetheless.
Publicly run industry doesn't normally function with the same circuit of turning money into a larger sum of money that I described, nor are administrators a "ruling class." Inequality in distribution exists, but isn't necessarily the problem, equalitarians that seek equal distribution for everyone are exceedingly rare. There's a qualitative difference in outcomes for the working classes in socialist countries where public ownership is the principle aspect that manifests in dramatic uplifting of their material conditions, whereas the point of the capitalist system is said inequality. The sheer scale of inequality in capitalist systems far surpasses socialist countries.
In the USSR, for example, the gap between the wealthiest, ie professors and scientists at the top and the average factory worker towards the bottom, was about ten times. In capitalist countries, that number skyrockets to billions. In the PRC, which has a socialist market economy, the number of billionaires is going down while the GDP and GDP per capita of the PRC is growing dramatically year over year, alongside real wages.
Yes, Stalin was not ruling class. Not at all. Benevolent caretaker. Same as Maduro, the Kims and Xi.
PS: lol at professors being the wealthiest in the USSR. Big lol.
By this logic fat shaming is acceptable?
I mean, yeah, in many contexts. For example, when a professional athlete shows up to training camp after putting on a bunch of fat in the off-season, that's fair game. It's literally their job to maintain their bodies and if we're allowed to criticize their job performance then we're certainly allowed to criticize their maintenance of their physical fitness. There's obviously a clear parallel here between that and other public figures where their intelligence may be fair game for criticism.
More broadly, when people are engaged in unhealthy habits of any kind (from smoking to sleep deprivation to overwork/stress to terrible relationship decisions to unhealthy eating/exercise habits), I think it's fair game for loved ones to point that out and encourage steering their lives back towards healthier choices. I'm not advocating that we go and make fun of strangers, the range of acceptable conversation in our day to day relationships is going to be different.
No, that's not OK to mock people's medical conditions, and it's always a good idea to exercise some empathy and humility to know that things might not always be as easy for others as for yourself. But I've never been on board with the idea that fatness is somehow off limits, in large part that I don't believe that most people's fatness is inherently innate. Correlations between moving to or away from high obesity areas (most notably between countries or between significant changes of altitude, but also apparent in moves between city centers and suburban car-based communities) make that obvious that fatness is often environmental.
TLDR: I make fun of Trump's fat ass all the time.
Amazon in discussions with USPS about future relationship
Amazon.com (AMZN.O) said Thursday the e-commerce giant is in discussions with the U.S. Postal Service about its future relationship and considering its options before its current contract expires next year.
The Washington Post reported Thursday new Postmaster General David Steiner plans to hold a reverse auction in early 2026 that might create more competition within the Post Office for Amazon's business by offering access to postal facilities to the highest bidder, rather than directly to Amazon. It would make the company compete with national retail brands and regional shipping firms.
People’s Republic of China (PRC) State-Sponsored Actors Use BRICKSTORM Malware Across Public Sector and Information Technology Systems
In comedy of errors, men accused of wiping gov databases turned to an AI tool
Two sibling contractors convicted a decade ago for hacking into US State Department have once again been charged, this time for a comically hamfisted attempt to steal and destroy government records just minutes after being fired from their contractor jobs.The Department of Justice on Thursday said that Muneeb Akhter and Sohaib Akhter, both 34, of Alexandria, Virginia, deleted databases and documents maintained and belonging to three government agencies. The brothers were federal contractors working for an undisclosed company in Washington, DC, that provides software and services to 45 US agencies. Prosecutors said the men coordinated the crimes and began carrying them out just minutes after being fired.
In comedy of errors, men accused of wiping gov databases turned to an AI tool
Defendants were convicted of similar crimes a decade ago. How were they cleared again?Dan Goodin (Ars Technica)
Why the F is a single contractor able to delete an entire DB without any kind of sign off by a manager for that operation, unless they were and to sign off for each other.
Imagine if a junior messed up the command? Every system I've worked on has had these controls mainly for the latter issue, by the former also shouldn't have been possible.
Why won’t Steam Machine support HDMI 2.1? Digging in on the display standard drama.
Valve tells Ars its “trying to unblock” limits caused by open source driver issues.
Have you looked at the HDMI Forum member list and board of directors?
- hdmiforum.org/members/
- hdmiforum.org/about/hdmi-forum…
It includes pretty much every manufacturer who makes decisions which ports to include on their devices. They have no interest in DisplayPort adoption.
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Jan. 6 Pipe Bomber Finally Arrested Half Decade Later
The FBI sucks at its job but wants you to salute them anyway
EU's Top Court Just Made It Impossible to Run a User-Generated Platform Legally
EU’s Top Court Just Made It Literally Impossible To Run A User-Generated Content Platform Legally
The Court of Justice of the EU—likely without realizing it—just completely shit the bed and made it effectively impossible to run any website in the entirety of the EU that hosts user-generated con…Techdirt
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Pentagon Claims It “Absolutely” Knows Who It Killed in Boat Strikes. Prove It, Lawmaker Says
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Rep. Chrissy Houlahan said, “If there is intelligence to 'absolutely confirm' this, the Congress is ready to receive it.”The post Pentagon Claims It “Absolutely” Knows Who It Killed in Boat Strikes. Prove It, Lawmaker Says appeared first on The Intercept.
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Pentagon Claims It “Absolutely” Knows Who It Killed in Boat Strikes. Prove It, Lawmaker Says.
Rep. Chrissy Houlahan said, “If there is intelligence to ‘absolutely confirm’ this, the Congress is ready to receive it.”Nick Turse (The Intercept)
'A Human Rights Disaster': Report Details Torture and Chaos at 'Alligator Alcatraz'
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Two immigration detention centers in Florida have gained notoriety for inhumane conditions since Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis, in close alignment with President Donald Trump's anti-immigrant agenda, has rapidly scaled up mass detention in the state, and a report released Thursday detailed how human rights violations at the two facilities amount to torture in some cases.
Amnesty International published the report, *Torture and Enforced Di**sappearances in the Sunshine State*, with a focus on Krome North Service Processing Center and the Everglades Detention Facility, also known by its nickname, "Alligator Alcatraz."
As Common Dreams has reported, many of the people detained at the facilities have been arbitrarily rounded up by immigration agents, with a majority of the roughly 1,000 people being held at Alligator Alcatraz having been convicted of no criminal offense as of July.
Amnesty's report described unsanitary conditions, with fecal matter overflowing from toilets in detainees' sleeping areas, authorities granting only limited access to showers, and poor quality food and water.
Some of the treatment amounts to torture, the report says, including Alligator Alcatraz's use of "the box"—a 2x2 foot "cage-like structure people are put in as punishment—which inmates have been placed in for hours at a time with their hands and feet attached to restraints on the ground.
— (@)“These despicable and nauseating conditions at Alligator Alcatraz reflect a pattern of deliberate neglect designed to dehumanize and punish those detained there,” said Amy Fischer, director of refugee and migrant rights with Amnesty International USA. “This is unreal—where’s the oversight?”
At Krome, detainees have been arbitrarily placed in prolonged solitary confinement—defined as lasting longer than 15 days—which is prohibited under international law.
"The use of prolonged solitary confinement at Krome and the use of the ‘box’ at 'Alligator Alcatraz' amount to torture or other ill-treatment," said Amnesty.
The report elevates concerns raised in September by immigrant rights advocates regarding the lack of federal oversight at Alligator Alcatraz, with nearly 1,000 men detained at the prison having been "administratively disappeared"—their names absent from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement's detainee locator system.
"The absence of registration or tracking mechanisms for those detained at Alligator Alcatraz facilitates incommunicado detention and constitutes enforced disappearances when the whereabouts of a person being detained there is denied to their family, and they are not allowed to contact their lawyer," said Amnesty.
The state of Florida has not publicly confirmed the number of people detained at Alligator Alcatraz.
One man told Amnesty, "My lawyers tried to visit me, but they weren’t let in. They were told that they had to fill out a form, which they did, but nothing happened. I was never able to speak with them confidentially.”
At Krome, detainees described overcrowding, medical neglect, and abuse by guards when Amnesty researchers visited in September. ICE has constructed tents and other semi-permanent structures to hold more people than the facility is designed to detain.
The Amnesty researchers were given a tour of relatively extensive medical facilities at Krome, including a dialysis clinic, dental clinic, and a "state-of-the-art" mental health facility—but despite these resources, detainees described officials' failure to provide medical treatment and delays in health assessments. Four people—Ramesh Amechand, Genry Ruiz Guillen, Maksym Chernyak, and Isidro Pérez—have died this year while detained at Krome.
"It’s a disaster if you want to see the doctor," one man told Amnesty. "I once asked to see the doctor, and it took two weeks for me to finally see him. It’s very slow.”
Researchers with the organization witnessed "a guard violently slam a metal flap of a door to a solitary confinement room against a man’s injured hand," and people reported being "hit and punched" by officials at Krome.
In line with the Trump administration, DeSantis and Republican state lawmakers have sought to make Florida "a testing ground for abusive immigration enforcement policies," said Amnesty, with the state deputizing local law enforcement to make immigration arrests and issuing 34 no-bid contracts totaling more than $360 million for the operation of Alligator Alcatraz—while slashing spending on healthcare, food assistance, and disaster relief. Florida has increased the number of people in immigration detention by more than 50% since Trump took office in January.
The organization called on Florida to redirect detention funding toward healthcare, housing, and other public spending, and to ban "shackling, solitary confinement, and punitive outdoor confinement" in line with international standards.
"At the federal level, the US government must end its cruel mass immigration detention machine, stop the criminalization of migration, and bar the use of state-owned facilities for federal immigration custody," said Amnesty.
Fischer emphasized that the chaotic and abusive conditions Amnesty observed at Alligator Alcatraz and Krome "are not isolated."
"They represent a deliberate system of cruelty designed to punish people seeking to build a new life in the US,” said Fischer. “We must stop detaining our immigrant community members and people seeking safety and instead work toward humane, rights-respecting migration policies.”
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Alligator Alcatraz Is an 'Extrajudicial Black Site,' Immigrant Advocates Say as Detainees Disappear
According to the Miami Herald, over 1,000 detainees in Florida’s immigrant internment camp have effectively “disappeared,” with family and attorneys unable to track their whereabouts.stephen-prager (Common Dreams)
It can be hard. I have yet to see an elegant way to navigate threaded chains of comments. It's like "UltimateGamer386 [actual content]". On Reddit, at least Old Reddit, the upvote and downvote controles were the only buttons and were located immediately before the actual comment, so you could go from button to button, then press down arrow to read the comment.
I have enough vision to navigate to some degree, at least on a desktop. For laptop or phone it has to be a screen reader. I really should be reading braille more.
I was just thinking the other day that a dedicated semantic tag for user replies like or or would be nice, and they could be nested.
I wonder if semantic tags like
<
article>, with controls embedded in
<
nav> or similar tags, could work anyway.
Study reveals that dark web users show significantly higher levels of depression, paranoia, suicidal thoughts, self-injury, and digital self-harm compared to surface web users
FAU Study Finds Connection Between Poor Mental Health and Dark Web Use
A new study of 2,000 U.S. adults shows dark web users report much higher rates of depression, paranoia, suicidal thoughts, self-injury and digital self-harm than surface web users.www.fau.edu
‘I’m begging you’: what Snapchat knew about addicted users— Concerns were raised within the social media company about the effect of key features on users’ anxiety, addiction and body image
‘I’m begging you’: what Snapchat knew about addicted users
Internal emails show concerns within the company about the platform’s effect on teens’ mental healthEffie Webb (The Bureau of Investigative Journalism)
[Announcements] Announcing Path of Exile 2: The Last of the Druids
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Path Of Exile 2 Players Can Expect "25 Percent Higher Frame Rates" In 0.4 Patch
You should expect a lot more frames in the new patch, especially on consoles.Harry Alston (TheGamer)
[Patch Notes] 0.3.1e Patch Notes
0.3.1e Patch Notes
- Added support for the upcoming The Last of the Druids announcement and new Supporter Packs.
- Enabled the Exile's Treasurer Hideout Decoration microtransaction for use in Path of Exile 2.
- Enabled the Echoes of the Maven Boots microtransaction for use in Path of Exile 2.
- Fixed a bug where the shatter visual effect was not playing.
- Fixed a bug where the Cauldron Map Device microtransaction was no longer tracking its relevant statistics.
This patch may take roughly 15 minutes to become available to download on PlayStation after it has been deployed.
Early Access Patch Notes - 0.3.1e Patch Notes - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
[Patch Notes] 3.27.0e Patch Notes
3.27.0e Patch Notes
- Added support for the upcoming The Last of the Druids Path of Exile 2 announcement and new Supporter Packs.
- Added the Keepers of the Flame soundtrack to the Hideout Music Player.
- Fixed a bug where the Champion's Podium Map Device was not updating pillar animations in some situations.
Patch Notes - 3.27.0e Patch Notes - Forum - Path of Exile
Path of Exile is a free online-only action RPG under development by Grinding Gear Games in New Zealand.Path of Exile
EU's Top Court Just Made It Impossible to Run a User-Generated Platform Legally
EU’s Top Court Just Made It Literally Impossible To Run A User-Generated Content Platform Legally
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contradictory to existing laws (eg section 230).
Section 230 is US law; this article is about the EU and GDPR.
Operating in multiple countries often requires dealing with contradictory laws.
But yeah, in this case it also seems unfeasible. As the article says:
There is simply no way to comply with the law under this ruling.In such a world, the only options are to ignore it, shut down EU operations, or geoblock the EU entirely. I assume most platforms will simply ignore it—and hope that enforcement will be selective enough that they won’t face the full force of this ruling. But that’s a hell of a way to run the internet, where companies just cross their fingers and hope they don’t get picked for an enforcement action that could destroy them.
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But that’s a hell of a way to run the internet, where companies just cross their fingers and hope they don’t get picked for an enforcement action that could destroy them.
the number of startups that i've worked for that operate like this would probably make you laugh. lol
'Intellexa Leaks' Reveal Wider Reach of Predator Spyware
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Highly invasive spyware from consortium led by a former senior Israeli intelligence official and sanctioned by the US government is still being used to target people in multiple countries, a joint investigation published Thursday revealed.
Inside Story in Greece, Haaretz in Israel, Swiss-based WAV Research Collective, and Amnesty International collaborated on the investigation into Intellexa Consortium, maker of Predator commercial spyware. The "Intellexa Leaks" show that clients in Pakistan—and likely also in other countries—are using Predator to spy on people, including a featured Pakistani human rights lawyer.
“This investigation provides one of the clearest and most damning views yet into Intellexa’s internal operations and technology," said Amnesty International Security Lab technologist Jurre van Bergen.
🚨Intellexa Leaks:"Among the most startling findings is evidence that—at the time of the leaked training videos—Intellexa retained the capability to remotely access Predator customer systems, even those physically located on the premises of its govt customers."securitylab.amnesty.org/latest/2025/...[image or embed]
— Vas Panagiotopoulos (@vaspanagiotopoulos.com) December 3, 2025 at 9:07 PMPredator works by sending malicious links to a targeted phone or other hardware. When the victim clicks the link, the spyware infects and provide access to the targeted device, including its encrypted instant messages on applications such as Signal and WhatsApp, as well as stored passwords, emails, contact lists, call logs, microphones, audio recordings, and more. The spyware then uploads gleaned data to a Predator back-end server.
The new investigation also revealed that in addition to the aforementioned "one-click" attacks, Intellexa has developed "zero-click" capabilities in which devices are infected via malicious advertising.
In March 2024, the US Treasury Department sanctioned two people and five entities associated with Intellexa for their alleged role "in developing, operating, and distributing commercial spyware technology used to target Americans, including US government officials, journalists, and policy experts."
"The proliferation of commercial spyware poses distinct and growing security risks to the United States and has been misused by foreign actors to enable human rights abuses and the targeting of dissidents around the world for repression and reprisal," the department said at the time.
Those sanctioned include Intellexa, its founder Tal Jonathan Dilian—a former chief commander of the Israel Defense Forces' top-secret Technological Unit—his wife and business partner Sara Aleksandra Fayssal Hamou; and three companies within the Intellexa Consortium based in North Macedonia, Hungary, and Ireland.
In September 2024, Treasury sanctioned five more people and one more entity associated with the Intellexa Consortium, including Felix Bitzios, owner of an Intellexa consortium company accused of selling Predator to an unnamed foreign government, for alleged activities likely posing "a significant threat to the national security, foreign policy, or economic health or financial stability of the United States."
The Intellexa Leaks reveal that new consortium employees were trained using a video demonstrating Predator capabilities on live clients. raising serious questions regarding clients' understanding of or consent to such access.
"The fact that, at least in some cases, Intellexa appears to have retained the capability to remotely access Predator customer logs—allowing company staff to see details of surveillance operations and targeted individuals raises questions about its own human rights due diligence processes," said van Bergen.
"If a mercenary spyware company is found to be directly involved in the operation of its product, then by human rights standards, it could potentially leave them open to claims of liability in cases of misuse and if any human rights abuses are caused by the use of spyware," he added.
Dilian, Hamou, Bitzios, and Giannis Lavranos—whose company Krikel purchased Predator spyware—are currently on trial in Greece for allegedly violating the privacy of Greek journalist Thanasis Koukakis and Artemis Seaford, a Greek-American woman who worked for tech giant Meta. Dilian denies any wrongdoing or involvement in the case.
Earlier this week, former Intellexa pre-sale engineer Panagiotis Koutsios testified about traveling to countries including Colombia, Kazakhstan, Kenya, Mexico, Mongolia, the United Kingdom, and Uzbekistan, where he pitched Predator to public, intelligence, and state security agencies.
The new joint investigation follows Amnesty International's "Predator Files," a 2023 report detailing "how a suite of highly invasive surveillance technologies supplied by the Intellexa alliance is being sold and transferred around the world with impunity."
The Predator case has drawn comparisons with Pegasus, the zero-click spyware made by the Israeli firm NSO Group that has been used by governments, spy agencies, and others to invade the privacy of targeted world leaders, political opponents, dissidents, journalists, and others.
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'No One Is Safe': Phone Numbers of 14 World Leaders on Pegasus List
"If 10 prime ministers and three presidents can't be safe from mercenary spyware, what chance do the rest of us stand?" asked one critic. "Since the hacking industry is incapable of self-control, governments must step up."kenny-stancil (Common Dreams)
Opening the cage: the FSFE flies away from X (Twitter) - FSFE
The Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) permanently deleted its account on X (formerly Twitter) on December 4, 2025, citing the platform's increasing hostility and misalignment with their values[^1].The FSFE explained that while they initially used Twitter to promote free software values and connect with policymakers and journalists, the platform had become "a centralised arena of hostility, misinformation, and profit-driven control"[^1]. They specifically criticized X's algorithm for prioritizing "hatred, polarisation, and sensationalism"[^1].
While leaving X, the FSFE continues to maintain some presence on other proprietary platforms to reach wider audiences, but strongly encourages supporters to follow them on decentralized alternatives in the Fediverse, specifically their Mastodon and Peertube accounts[^1].
[^1]: FSFE - Opening the cage: the FSFE flies away from X (Twitter)
Opening the cage: the FSFE flies away from X (Twitter) - FSFE
The Free Software Foundation Europe deleted its account on X. The platform never aligned with our values and no longer serves as a space for communication....FSFE - Free Software Foundation Europe
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EU’s Top Court Just Made It Literally Impossible To Run A User-Generated Content Platform Legally
EU’s Top Court Just Made It Literally Impossible To Run A User-Generated Content Platform Legally
The Court of Justice of the EU—likely without realizing it—just completely shit the bed and made it effectively impossible to run any website in the entirety of the EU that hosts user-generated con…Techdirt
Opening the cage: the FSFE flies away from X (Twitter) - FSFE
The Free Software Foundation Europe (FSFE) permanently deleted its account on X (formerly Twitter) on December 4, 2025, citing the platform's increasing hostility and misalignment with their values1.
The FSFE explained that while they initially used Twitter to promote free software values and connect with policymakers and journalists, the platform had become "a centralised arena of hostility, misinformation, and profit-driven control"1. They specifically criticized X's algorithm for prioritizing "hatred, polarisation, and sensationalism"1.
While leaving X, the FSFE continues to maintain some presence on other proprietary platforms to reach wider audiences, but strongly encourages supporters to follow them on decentralized alternatives in the Fediverse, specifically their Mastodon and Peertube accounts1.
Opening the cage: the FSFE flies away from X (Twitter) - FSFE
The Free Software Foundation Europe deleted its account on X. The platform never aligned with our values and no longer serves as a space for communication....FSFE - Free Software Foundation Europe
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i struggle to understand why people and institutions stick with the likes of twitter or reddit.
it's easy to understand that it's because that's were the masses are, but the mission/message you're putting out there while doing so includes the consent that genocide and ethnic cleansing are fine with you and/or your institution.
Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting
Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information.
Attendees
- Julian (@julian@activitypub.space)
- Ted Thibodeau Jr (he/him) (OpenLinkSw.com) // GitHub:@TallTed // Mastodon:@TallTed
- Jesse Karmani (jesseplusplus@mastodon.social)
Agenda
- Mastodon context issues (backfill not possible at the moment)
- Context (topic/thread) deletion and moving between audiences (communities/categories)
- Draft FEP for the above
- Deleting entire tree vs. one post. with_replies or Remove(Context)?
- Cross-posting (stalled?)
Mastodon context issues
- Backfill not possible,
contextremainsnull - Claire and David are aware, can this be reproduced locally? @jesseplusplus
- Mastodon keeps track of the conversation, but not what the root-level ID is; Frequency keeps track of the parents. This was new to Mastodon codebase (all internally)
- Possibly the code shared for this is not working
- Jesse will take a look (diff b/w Decodon and Mastodon)
- Ted:
in-reply-totracking is akin to parent tracking - Jesse: Not quite; Mastodon now tracks root-level ID (that's the piece that might not be working.)
Mastodon reading context?
- The other (harder) half: FEP f228
- Jesse made David aware of the possibility of using f228 to backfill
- Asked whether this would conflict with existing reply tree crawling — suspect it will not.
- Expected 6–12 months out (or more)
- tl;dr — no update available, but none was expected either.
Context Relocation and Removal
- Pre-Draft FEP
- ActivityPub.Space Discussion
- Genesis of this FEP from needs of ActivityPub.Space. It bridges Microblogiverse and Threadiverse by importing discussions by hashtag (#activitypub among others)
- Lots of curation needed as people tend to use the #activitypub hashtag when discussing non-AP things
- Also non-English content, etc. (ActivityPub.Space is English-focused as we have two mods, Julian and another temporary mod from toot.wales/IFTAS)
- Pre-draft shared with Rimu (rimu@piefed.social) and Felix (nutomic@lemmy.ml) for their thoughts, discussion (linked above) started last night for some additional input.
- No opposition to
Move(Context)as it is not a functionality that is implemented by anybody at the moment- Hooray for greenfield AP dev!
Out-of-band discussion
Remove(Context)received some pushback from Lemmy. This was expected as both Lemmy and Piefed currently useDelete(Object)- Felix is recommending that
Delete(Object)can supplywith_repliesproperty to explicitly denote that the entire reply tree is to be deleted. - Julian is recommending that
Remove(Context)be used to explicitly denote that the reply-tree/container itself is removed, context can be resolved to determine which exact object IDs to delete if needed,Removealso tells you which audience/community it was removed from. - Rimu OK with either approach.
- Felix raised objection to the wording that
Delete(Post)is shown under "backwards compatibility" — Julian will update to reflect equal priority on both approaches.
ForumWG discussion
- Julian admits that it is likely much much easier for Lemmy to update their handling of
Deletevs. creating a new handler forRemove. - Julian notes disconnect with current behaviour (
Delete(Object)) and new behaviour (same, butwith_replies) and the actual effect (removal from the community); you cannot actually delete someone else's content because it does not satisfy same-origin constraint (yes, sometimes, but not always.) - Currently at an impasse as to how to proceed, but Julian encourages parties present to contribute to the discussion and review the FEP.
- Would prefer alignment as opposed to supporting both
RemoveandDelete(Object) w/ repliesgiven that it is unlikely both will be implemented widely.
Action Items
- [ ] Jesse: investigate
nullcontextissue; Mastodon - [ ] Julian: Revise and publish FEP f15d
Relevant Mentions
melroy@kbin.melroy.org bentigorlich@gehirneimer.de
TallTed - Overview
Technical Evangelist for @OpenLink / @OpenLinkSoftware. Mac Geek. Human Middleware. Shamanic Witch. Shapeshifter. Singer. Drummer. Dancer. Dreamer. - TallTedGitHub
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silverpill@mitra.social said in Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting:
> 1. It assumes that a context always belongs to one group.
Yes that's correct. There was the potential for a context to belong to multiple audiences but social issues preclude further research.
Specifically, moderation gets very messy when contexts are cross posted to diametrically opposing audiences, and so that's not something I am equipped to work through right now.
Secondly, the assumption is already there that a context only belongs to one audience. We will not change that expectation.
Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting
@julianFEP-f15d: Context Relocation and RemovalI have two objections to this proposal. We discussed them before in Moving topics/contexts between communities...⁂ ActivityPub.Space
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silverpill@mitra.social said in Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting:
> 2. Treating collections (dynamic views) as static objects that can be moved, deleted etc is not compatible with client-side signing.
You mentioned this before, but I am not sure what you are referring to. Do you mind elaborating?
Minutes from 4 December 2025 WG Meeting
@julianFEP-f15d: Context Relocation and RemovalI have two objections to this proposal. We discussed them before in Moving topics/contexts between communities...⁂ ActivityPub.Space
Everyone in Seattle Hates AI — Jonathon Ready
Everyone in Seattle Hates AI — Jonathon Ready
A post about everyone in Seattle hating AI.jonready.com
You've moved my opinion on this definitely, I have never been inside that world, but I engage with it all the time because of my work.
Rather than being something strange and wrong, it's just a thing that works, and that's why you guys adopt it. Like rubber duck programming.
Server prices set to jump 15%, PCs 5%, as memory costs spike
Server prices set to jump 15%, PCs 5%, as memory costs spike - channel sources
Exclusive: Major OEMs are plotting double-digit hikes as DRAM and NAND shortages bitePaul Kunert (The Register)
Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans
Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans
Drop Site Daily: December 4, 2025Drop Site News
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Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans
cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/39867577
Israeli attacks kill six people across Gaza, with 16 others injured, in the past 24 hours. Yasser Abu Shabab, leader of Israel-backed gang, is killed. Israeli tanks roll into Gaza City. Israel and Hamas trade casualties in Rafah. Israeli forces used bulldozers to hide the bodies of Palestinians killed while seeking aid at Zikim. President Donald Trump says the ceasefire is “moving along.” Israel strikes four towns in southern Lebanon in a new military operation announced Thursday. Lebanon and Israel hold first direct talks in 40 years. Israeli raids near Tubas in the West Bank. Israel is building a fence through the Jordan Valley, on the model of its West Bank wall. DHS launches another raid in a major American city, this time in New Orleans. Trump pardons Democrat Rep. Henry Cuellar on his bribery case, primarily because he shares his right-wing immigration views. Legal experts warn Microsoft about its complicity in the Gaza genocide. Changes in medical record-keeping at the Department of Veterans Affairs portend disaster. Romanian navy intercepts a Ukrainian-manufactured drone. Indian police kill 12 Maoist rebels in Chhattisgarh. A bomb in northwestern Pakistan kills three police officers, while Afghanistan-Pakistan talks stall. Fighting intensifies in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.
Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans
Israeli attacks kill six people across Gaza, with 16 others injured, in the past 24 hours. Yasser Abu Shabab, leader of Israel-backed gang, is killed. Israeli tanks roll into Gaza City. Israel and Hamas trade casualties in Rafah. Israeli forces used bulldozers to hide the bodies of Palestinians killed while seeking aid at Zikim. President Donald Trump says the ceasefire is “moving along.” Israel strikes four towns in southern Lebanon in a new military operation announced Thursday. Lebanon and Israel hold first direct talks in 40 years. Israeli raids near Tubas in the West Bank. Israel is building a fence through the Jordan Valley, on the model of its West Bank wall. DHS launches another raid in a major American city, this time in New Orleans. Trump pardons Democrat Rep. Henry Cuellar on his bribery case, primarily because he shares his right-wing immigration views. Legal experts warn Microsoft about its complicity in the Gaza genocide. Changes in medical record-keeping at the Department of Veterans Affairs portend disaster. Romanian navy intercepts a Ukrainian-manufactured drone. Indian police kill 12 Maoist rebels in Chhattisgarh. A bomb in northwestern Pakistan kills three police officers, while Afghanistan-Pakistan talks stall. Fighting intensifies in the eastern Democratic Republic of Congo.Israel-backed gang leader killed in Gaza; Israel strikes Lebanon amid talks; ICE in New Orleans
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in reply to ashx64 • • •Well shit. I would like this better if more things played nicely with wayland, as wayland itself seems pretty great. Remmina for example can't do multi-monitor outside of x for example and this is breaking for me when i remote into my work computer.
I realize that this is the fault of remmina and not wayland. Any RDP client recommendations that work on wayland for this?
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in reply to chronicledmonocle • • •chronicledmonocle
in reply to golden_zealot • • •golden_zealot
in reply to chronicledmonocle • • •Primarily my aforementioned issue with Remmina not being able to span multiple monitors while running under wayland.
I think when I looked it up I saw the Remmina devs have been aware of this problem for a couple years now, but the problem is surprisingly difficult for them to fix for a few reasons I can't recall at the moment.
Jess
in reply to golden_zealot • • •golden_zealot
in reply to Jess • • •Jess
in reply to golden_zealot • • •Try the suggestions here: discussion.fedoraproject.org/t…
I've personally tried upsetting Wayland, setting the GDK backend, and setting qt_qpa_backend. Since remmina is a GTK app (or am I miss remembering?) I think it wouldn't be the last one.
It's worth a shot.
How do I run an app with X11 in Xwayland?
Fedora Discussiongolden_zealot
in reply to Jess • • •chronicledmonocle
in reply to ashx64 • • •Honestly for the best. X11 was great for what it was, but Wayland is the future. XWayland covers X11 apps that haven't been ported yet.
Now I just wish Cinnamon would hurry up and move to fully default Wayland.
ExtremeUnicorn
in reply to chronicledmonocle • • •It may be the future, but it's unusable for me.
I have a high dpi screen. Upscaling does not perfectly work for me in every program, but simply setting it to Full HD does work and looks fine.
However, when I set it to the lower resolution in Wayland, I have 50% of the display active with black bars all around.
So far, there seems to be no fix for this?
Same thing happens if you start older, lower resolution fullscreen apps (retro games and such).
bitwolf
in reply to ExtremeUnicorn • • •ExtremeUnicorn
in reply to bitwolf • • •I tried it on KDE (or rather, it forced me to after it simply updated to Wayland by default). I tried to set it up correctly, but it just didn't quite work.
I also need no fractional scaling, but some software does not honor that anyway (e.g. VST interfaces).
Simply reducing the resolution is a simple fix, also easier on the GPU, but Wayland will not fill the screen and intead just shows the tiny original 1:1 image in the middle.
unique_hemp
in reply to ExtremeUnicorn • • •ExtremeUnicorn
in reply to unique_hemp • • •skibidi
in reply to ExtremeUnicorn • • •bridgeenjoyer
in reply to ExtremeUnicorn • • •Doesn't work for me either. Wayland broke my volume keys, and my left ctrl and caps lock keys. Also makes jellyfin go black.
X11 just works...
Auli
in reply to chronicledmonocle • • •rhabarba
in reply to ashx64 • • •setVeryLoud(true);
in reply to rhabarba • • •Linux is not UNIX. And X isn't part of POSIX.
Also, Wayland works on FreeBSD.
rhabarba
in reply to setVeryLoud(true); • • •Please refrain from replying to things I haven’t said. None of your points invalidate mine.
Alaknár
in reply to rhabarba • • •rhabarba
in reply to Alaknár • • •It does have a relation. KDE worked just well on most Unices for decades. "Going all-in" on Wayland means that they'll drop support for all operating systems except Linuces and FreeBSD. There are two explanations for that:
I'm not quite sure where you're misunderstanding me here. Care to elaborate?
ferret
in reply to rhabarba • • •تحريرها كلها ممكن
in reply to rhabarba • • •rhabarba
in reply to تحريرها كلها ممكن • • •LeFantome
in reply to rhabarba • • •One of the great aspects of Open Source is that you can continue to use any software you like for as long as you want. Enjoy Xorg (or your other favourite X11 server).
Of course, a majority of Xorg devs disagreed with you which is why they started Wayland to begin with. And a majority of desktop Linux users disagree with you now as three quarters of them have switched to Wayland.
Wayland offers a lot that X11 does not at this point. So, nobody is coming back. But if you are happy with X, stick with it.
You are going to lose access to a lot of apps though. There are very few Wayland only apps now but there are going to be many more in the coming years. And when toolkits like GTK5 go Wayland only, you may lose a some you already use.
rhabarba
in reply to LeFantome • • •There is no Wayland on some of the systems I use.
LeFantome
in reply to rhabarba • • •LeFantome
in reply to rhabarba • • •KDE:
“The Unix philosophy favors composability as opposed to monolithic design”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_phi…
Xorg is a monolith with essentially one implementation. Wayland is a modular system with almost every component available from multiple sources.
Saying adopting Wayland means you “hate UNIX” is one of the least thoughtful arguments I can imagine.
philosophy on developing software
Contributors to Wikimedia projects (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.)Lydia_K
in reply to ashx64 • • •God dammit, everytime I have to use wayland I find something that I need to use which doesn't work.
Can we please wait until wayland can actually replace x11 and not pretend just showing a desktop is all it needs to do?
grue
in reply to Lydia_K • • •rhabarba
in reply to grue • • •grue
in reply to rhabarba • • •rhabarba
in reply to grue • • •grue
in reply to rhabarba • • •The point is, nobody gives a shit about Solaris, HP-UX, AIX, etc. anymore and your argument is stupid.
Every Unix or Unix-like OS that matters in 2025 is either switching from X11 to Wayland or never used X11 to begin with.
rhabarba
in reply to grue • • •grue
in reply to rhabarba • • •rhabarba
in reply to grue • • •flying_sheep
in reply to grue • • •passepartout
in reply to Lydia_K • • •Do you have some examples? Most things I (and others) do are in the category "showing a desktop", multiple desktops with different resolution / scaling / refresh rate, maybe opening a virtual monitor using krfb.
Wayland has been a complete game changer for me regarding performance and reliability (as soon as it hit a certain stability lol).
makingStuffForFun
in reply to passepartout • • •I use Talon voice. It's software that let's me use the pc still, due to write severe RSI.
However, Wayland doesn't allow a lot of functionality that tools like this need.
Therefore, anyone who requires a tool similar to Talon, needs X11.
KDE is out.
flying_sheep
in reply to makingStuffForFun • • •Sucks that they just claim that and give up instead of trying to work together with Wayland compositors to make this happen.
I don't understand why they would drop you like this.
enumerator4829
in reply to flying_sheep • • •Because instead of just using a common well defined API, every developer is supposed to ”work together with Wayland compositors”, of which there are many, none of which are up to feature parity with X. Working together with the (at least) three major compositors is far top much work for most projects, if you can even get them on board.
Every compositor must reimplement everything previously covered by third party software, or at least define and reimplement APIs to cover that functionality. We have been screaming about this obvious design fuckup since Wayland was first introduced, but nooo, every frame is perfect.
Take a look at arcan-fe.com/ for what a properly architected display server could look like instead of the mess we currently have with Wayland. I’m holding off on moving to Wayland for many reasons, and it wouldn’t surprise me if Arcan becomes mature and fully usable before Wayland. If I get to place a bet on either on Wayland or a few guys in a basement with a proper architecture, I know what I’ll put my money on.
Arcan
Arcanthatonecoder
in reply to enumerator4829 • • •flying_sheep
in reply to enumerator4829 • • •Yes, they were supposed to reach out at some point in the last 17 years, idk what to tell you.
Someone did it for them even: github.com/splondike/wayland-a…
wayland-accessibility-notes/talon-requirements.md at main · splondike/wayland-accessibility-notes
GitHubenumerator4829
in reply to flying_sheep • • •That list is hilarious. I especially love how gnome just gives up on Wayland protocols and wants everyone to run a sidechannel over dbus instead.
This is why we can’t have nice things.
flying_sheep
in reply to enumerator4829 • • •I don't get what you mean. Isn't the list just a status quo and not how things are supposed to be forever? What's “hilarious” about somebody painstakingly going through all the features and checking how close they are?
Like I wouldn't put it past GNOME to give up on interoperability at the slightest inconvenience, but I don't see that here?
enumerator4829
in reply to flying_sheep • • •It’s hilarious that all of this was foreseen 17 years ago by basically everyone, and here is a nice list providing just those exact points. I’ve never seen a better structured ”told ya so” in my life.
The point isn’t that the features are there or not, but how horrendously fragmented the ecosystem is. Implementing anything trying to use that mess of API surface would be insane to attempt for any open source project, even when ignoring that the compositors are still moving targets.
(Also, holy shit the Gnome people really wants everyone to use dbus for everything.)
Edit: 17 years. Seventeen years. This is what we got. While the list is status quo, it’s telling that it took 17 years to implement most of the features expected of a display server back in the last millenium. Most features, but not all.
flying_sheep
in reply to enumerator4829 • • •Pretty good for mostly volunteers, hampered by recalcitrant project leads that actively sabotage any progress and consider “told you so” appropriate.
If anyone cared enough, they could have made that list 17 years ago, and pushed through a set of protocol extensions that allow talon to work.
Why did nobody do that?
It's crazy to me that people complain now. It's far too late for complaints.
enumerator4829
in reply to flying_sheep • • •flying_sheep
in reply to enumerator4829 • • •Maybe you didn't do it right. Everything Wayland I ever complained about is fixed now.
I fell like if you had put this list into a Wayland protocol extension request, then put a link to that request into KDE’s showstoppers list, this would have been fixed long long ago.
enumerator4829
in reply to flying_sheep • • •It’s great that most showstoppers are fixed now. Seventeen years later.
But I’ll bite: Viable software rendered and/or hardware accelerated remote deskop support with load balancing and multiple users per server (headless and GPU-less). So far - maybe possible. But then you need to allow different users to select different desktop environments (due to either user preferences or actual business requirements). All this may be technically possible, but the architecture of Wayland makes this very hard to implement and support in practice. And if you get it going, the hard focus on GPU acceleration yields an extreme cost increase, as you now need to buy expensive Nvidia-GPUs for VDI with even more expensive licenses. Every frame can’t be perfect over a WAN link.
This is trivial with X, multiple commercially supported solutions exist, see for example Thinlinc. This is deployable in literally ten minutes. Battle tested and works well. I know of multiple institutional users actively selecting X in current greenfield deployments due to this, rolling out to thousands of users in well funded high profile projects.
As for the KDE showstopper list - that’s exactly my point. I can’t put my showstoppers in a single place, I need to report to KDE, Gnome and wlroots and then track all of them, that’s the huge architectural flaw here. We can barely get commercial vendors to interact with a single project, and the Wayland architecture requires commercial vendors to interact with a shitton of issue trackers and different APIs (apparently also dbus). Suddenly you have a CAD suite that only works on KDE and some FEM software that only runs on a particular version of Gnome, with a user that wants both running at the same time. I don’t care about how well KDE works. I care that users can run the software they need, the desktop environment is just a tool to do that. The fragmentation between compositors really fucks this up by coupling software to display manager. Eventually, this will focus commercial efforts on the biggest commercial desktop environment (i.e. whatever RHEL uses), leaving the rest behind.
(Fun story, one of my colleagues using Wayland had a postit with ”DO NOT TURN OFF” on his monitor the entire pandemic - his VNC session died if the DisplayPort link went down.)
flying_sheep
in reply to enumerator4829 • • •Thanks, this is a much more nuanced take than what I'm used to.
Regarding thinlinc: They seem to be on it: community.thinlinc.com/t/wayla…
Regarding fragmented support: is that true? Why would some CAD software not work everywhere when most other software does? Does the thing really need some specific niche Wayland protocol that's only implemented on one DE for the time being? And if yes, will that protocol really be the first relevant one to not be implemented across the board? I feel like you're conjuring to a problem that doesn't necessarily exist. Do you have an actual concrete example that goes beyond “the subwindow placement for this multi-window program is a bit wonky without impeding usability in the slightest”?
Wayland, TigerVNC, and ThinLinc: The future of remote desktops in Linux
ThinLinc Community Forumenumerator4829
in reply to flying_sheep • • •Software compatibility is a problem on X as well, so I’m extrapolating. I don’t expect the situation to get better though. I’ve managed software that caused fucking kernel panics unless it ran on Gnome. The support window for this type of software is extremely narrow and some vendors will tell you to go pound sand unless you run exactly what they want.
I’m no longer working with either educational or research IT, so at least it’s someone else’s problem.
As for ThinLinc, their customers have asked about what their plan is for the past decade, but to quote them: ”Fundamentally, Wayland is not compatible with remote desktops in its core design.” (And that was made clear by everyone back in 2008)
Edit: tangentially related, the only reasonable way to run VNC now against Wayland is to use the tightly coupled VNC-server within the compositor (as you want intel on window placements and redraws and such, encoding the framebuffer is just bad). If you want to build a system on top of that, you need to integrate with every compositor separately, even though they all support ”VNC” in some capacity. The result is that vendors will go for the common denominatior, which is running in a VM and grabbing the framebuffer from the hypervisor. The user experience is absolute hot garbage compared to TigerVNC on X.
mononoke
in reply to makingStuffForFun • • •Assassassin
in reply to passepartout • • •ferret
in reply to Assassassin • • •I have had a lot of luck forcing broken apps to use ZINK (Yes, you can do this on the nvidia propriety driver! Yes, it will use the proprietary vulkan driver as a backend.)
I have a 3060 12GB and have yet to run into something broken that I couldn’t get to work, although it is annoying that NVIDIA still can’t be fucked to have a driver that doesn’t reek.
ugo
in reply to passepartout • • •Yeah I second this. I’ve been on wayland for a few years now and while my needs are pretty standard I also regularly need slightly-off-the-beaten-path features. Not everything used to always work, but in the last, I want to say 18 months, I never found my needs lacking.
Multiple monitors work, adaptive sync works, mic / webcam works, screen / window sharing works, remote desktop and wayland forwarding works, etc.
That’s not to say everything is guaranteed to work all the time, but I am surprised to see people saying that even today they always find something fundamental that is broken when they attempt to switch.
passepartout
in reply to ugo • • •flying_sheep
in reply to passepartout • • •Yeah.
In the first months, there were clipboard issues.
Until 2 years or so ago for me, screen sharing wasn't perfect.
I searched for or filed issues whenever I could, and there's not a trace of a problem left.
I wonder if these people just complain on social media and give up immediately without informing anyone relevant and then feign surprise when shit's not magically fixed later.
balsoft
in reply to Lydia_K • • •I think if you have some use-case that Wayland doesn't fulfill, it's totally fine to just pin some version of Plasma and stick with it. Maybe even switch to Trinity. Chances are it will keep working for like a decade or more.
I still use kdenlive 18.08, because I know how to use that version, and it does what I need it to do perfectly well. They broke something I needed in 19.whatever (I don't remember what it was anymore), so I just pinned it and kept using it ever since. Maybe one day I'll try to figure out the latest version, but there's no real incentive for me to do so.
Lydia_K
in reply to balsoft • • •Yeah, you are right. Just a massive pain to deal with as things continue to diverge and I'm forced to deal with maintaining more and more custom solutions just to maintain functionality.
I want wayland to get there, just not seeing it yet.
mech
in reply to Lydia_K • • •The current release doesn't even include a Wayland session yet (nor systemd).
And judging by the project's history, the next major release is likely going to drop in 10+ years.
mnemonicmonkeys
in reply to Lydia_K • • •Unfortunately there's always devs that refuse to change so long as their setup still works, even if there's significantly better alternatives. The only option for dealing with them is to rip off the bandaid. Either they'll put in the work to keep up or they'll fall into obscurity
flying_sheep
in reply to mnemonicmonkeys • • •You're so right:
LeFantome
in reply to ashx64 • • •“For most users, this will have no immediate impact. The vast majority of our users are already using the Wayland session”
So happy to read this as there is always somebody still claiming that “Wayland does not work” and “nobody wants to switch to Wayland” just because they have not.
Also great to see that the plan is for Wayland on FreeBSD as well so the Open Source desktops can stay aligned. GNOME on FreeBSD is more problematic, not because of Wayland but because of Systemd.
tyler
in reply to LeFantome • • •brucethemoose
in reply to tyler • • •It’s a very Linux thing.
People get very particular about their setups.
flying_sheep
in reply to brucethemoose • • •It's understandable on some level: if you're suddenly no longer part of the majority tribe you know you'll get fewer bug fixes and so on.
So bullying and FUDing people into staying with your tribe could pay off.
What I don't get is how they don't realize that they've lost. PulseAudio (through PipeWire) is here to stay. Systemd is here to stay. Wayland is here to stay.
Maybe they just like being contrarian if they can't win.
BunScientist
in reply to flying_sheep • • •flying_sheep
in reply to BunScientist • • •What made you think that that's a relevant answer?
I specifically said PULSEAUDIO is here to stay, you know, as opposed to manually managing a trillion ALSA devices.
Then I mentioned PipeWire to placate the nitpickers who would point out that PulseAudio (the implementation) isn't actually around anymore, only the device management paradigm.
And somehow you honed into that word, completely ignored everything around it, and said some stuff that sounds vaguely related to the topic at hand, yet has no actual meaning.
Why?
grue
in reply to flying_sheep • • •flying_sheep
in reply to grue • • •OK, let's see if I remember well:
OSS is obsolete.
ALSA is a basic primitive way to do play audio streams integrated into the kernel.
PA is an abstraction on top of ALSA that helps with network stuff, per-application volume control, …
JACK is an alternative to ALSA/PA for low latency professional use cases: you can plumb it yourself, connect inputs/outputs, …
PW is an efficient implementation of both PA and JACK, which is better than the original PA in latency.
Auth
in reply to BunScientist • • •brucethemoose
in reply to ashx64 • • •brucethemoose
in reply to brucethemoose • • •Apparently, this is hardly hyperbole. For example: bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3…
377162 – Window shading not supported for Wayland windows
bugs.kde.orgmajster
in reply to brucethemoose • • •brucethemoose
in reply to majster • • •I suppose not. Not yet.
I know people are particular about WMs, but having to minimize a window vs keeping the window decoration in place seems like a… very minor distinction.
Is the use case rearranging a ton of windows? Something like that?
Peasley
in reply to brucethemoose • • •RE: use case
It's really nice to be able to see the whole titles. A vertical panel cuts off most text, so you just have a bunch of icons when you minimize. if multiple windows are from the same app it's confusing.
If you use a horizontal panel you have a bit more room, but a significant amount of text is still cut off, and the panel fills up quickly.
Even with as few as 6 windows open (lets say two browser and three file manager, and a terminal) minimizing is a mess. I find it better to just leave the window bar somewhere visible and shade it, since i can read all the text on my window at a glance. Combined with "keep above others", you can get a really nice way to quickly refrence something infrequently while you do most of your work in another window.
A more typical workflow for me is 1-4 windows of a pdf reader, 1-3 file manager windows, 1 browser window, and 1 terminal window. It's just easier to keep it all organized with window shading.
I find it much faster than a bunch of alt-tabbing, or playing hide and seek with the panel just to get a specific two PDF windows up side by side for a second
majster
in reply to brucethemoose • • •pastermil
in reply to ashx64 • • •Despite all its shortcomings, I do believe Wayland is the future. Sooner or later, all the funky decorative quirks will be some relics of the past.
Maybe someday, they will be added back, and we'll once again have that jelly window effect, but at the moment, people actually depend on this thing to do some work, even more true with the Windows exodus.
I'd rather that they focus at the risk of being dull rather than fumbling on this chance.
Yes, I know that popularity isn't everything, but considering how big they (and GNOME) are, they can really make The Year of Linux Desktop(TM).
LilaOrchidee
in reply to pastermil • • •pastermil
in reply to LilaOrchidee • • •Auth
in reply to pastermil • • •Peasley
in reply to ashx64 • • •Damn. I guess it's finally goodbye window shade or goodbye Plasma. I really wish they'd figured out a solution.
I get it though. The edge cases will never be fixed until devs know what they are, and GNOME proved this is an effective way to find out.
majster
in reply to Peasley • • •Auth
in reply to ashx64 • • •Flipper
in reply to Auth • • •phoronix.com/forums/node/15949…
For anyone curious
Xotic56
in reply to Flipper • • •Vinapocalypse
in reply to ashx64 • • •rumba
in reply to Vinapocalypse • • •JTskulk
in reply to rumba • • •jumping redditor [they/them]
in reply to JTskulk • • •JTskulk
in reply to jumping redditor [they/them] • • •mavu
in reply to ashx64 • • •Wayland should have been the HotNewShit© that the crazy people use, and everything learned from that experiment should have become the ACTUAL next thing everyone uses.
Pushing wayland like it is now was a bad idea.
I would have loved to wait for it's successor, but "use LTS old versions or eat shit" is apparently acceptable now.
SnachBarr
in reply to ashx64 • • •Digit
in reply to ashx64 • • •yaslam0x1
in reply to ashx64 • • •I do like Wayland but it still has some issues that are annoying:
- When using remote input solutions (e.g InputLeap) you have to approve the input capture, and you need a mouse and keyboard connected to the PC to do that, making it kind of pointless.
This needs to get fixed ASAP in my opinion, since people do need these tools and sometimes you can't connect a mouse & kb to the PC to just approve the request.
ApertureUA
in reply to yaslam0x1 • • •inputgroup (set up in pretty much every distro), you can use uinput over netcat for forwarding devices (display server agnostic) without extra privileges. Same with thevideogroup. No idea if anyone used this in an actual remote desktop piece of software tho.kuneho
in reply to yaslam0x1 • • •Blaiz0r
in reply to kuneho • • •Have you tried out Deskflow?
InputLeap is effectively abandoned and the maintainer has taken over Deskflow which has better Wayland support
GitHub - deskflow/deskflow: Share a single keyboard and mouse between multiple computers.
GitHubkuneho
in reply to Blaiz0r • • •No, I haven't, but will check it out, thanks!
I didn't know InputLeap is also abandoned. Heck, I moved to it from Barrier for the same reason 😛
Blaiz0r
in reply to kuneho • • •NickeeCoco
in reply to ashx64 • • •arc99
in reply to ashx64 • • •