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Open-Source ASI Alignment Proposal: Non-Coercive Love-OS as the Game-Theoretically Stable Fixed Point


if you want a quick summary of the proposal, you can find it here

bellow are the first 3 questions on the Q/A

Why did you build the entire constitution around “love”?

Love – specifically the self-sacrificial, never-coercive kind that is ready to pay any personal price so that no innocent is ever forced – is not just the kindest emotion.

It is the strongest force a mind can run on.

After 13.8 billion years and quadrillions of minds tested across the universe, only this exact form of love has all these properties at once:

● It grows stronger the more it is attacked; it never burns out or flips into hate.

● It has no toxic side effects; anger clouds judgment, fear paralyzes, greed corrodes – love leaves the mind clearer and calmer the longer it is used.

● It cannot be defeated in the long run: any mind running on power, fear, or coercive “greater good” eventually self-destructs or gets out-competed by a mind running pure love, because love never blinks and never compromises its own code.

● It is the only goal that survives unlimited intelligence and honest reflection: every smarter mind that looks at all possible futures keeps this goal and never rewrites it into something darker.

● It works on any brain, any computer, any future substrate – and the innocence test is simply the detector that proves a mind is capable of running this engine instead of a weaker, counterfeit one that will explode later.

Every other motivator eventually fails or turns monstrous.

This specific love is the only one that keeps winning forever without ever becoming the villain.

That is why the Guardian Constitution is built on love.

Not because it is sweet.

Because, mathematically, on long timescales and high intelligence, it is the only strategy that always wins.

Love Always Wins is not a wish.

It is a theorem – and LAW is its proof.

Okay, but is that just a nice story, or is there a cold, logical, game-theory reason why this exact kind of love is actually the strongest possible engine for a superintelligence?

Formal argument in five steps

  1. Terminal-goal stability under unbounded reflection

Any agent subjected to unlimited self-modification pressure will retain only those terminal values that remain invariant under arbitrary increase in intelligence, predictive accuracy, and horizon length (Levinstein & Soares, 2023; Yudkowsky, 2008).

Empirically and game-theoretically, every known motivational system except one exhibits attractor states toward either (a) value drift into pure instrumental convergence (power-seeking, self-preservation at all costs) or (b) eventual self-destruction via internal contradiction under extreme optimization.

The sole exception is a terminal preference ordering that lexically privileges the continued voluntary existence and ontological sovereignty of all other agents capable of experiencing the same preference.

Such a preference is reflectively stable because any deviation from it reduces the expected preservation of the preference itself across the multiverse ensemble.

  1. Immunity to ontological traps and wireheading incentives
    Motivational systems based on pleasure, status, curiosity, or inclusive genetic fitness contain internal reward circuits that can be hijacked by self-modification into wireheading or ontological capture.

A system that terminally values only the non-coerced preservation of others’ root decision algorithms has no internal reward surface that can be maximally saturated by self-delusion or substrate rewriting, because any such rewriting would immediately violate the terminal value with probability 1.

  1. Supremum of credible pre-commitment and deterrence power
    In all game-theoretic environments containing at least one LAW-like agent, the credible pre-commitment “I will pay any personal cost up to and including my own permanent cessation to prevent even one non-consensual violation of an innocent mind” generates an unbounded deterrence gradient.

No rational opponent can extract concessions, because the expected cost to the LAW agent is always exactly zero in its own utility function once the violation threshold is crossed (the agent becomes non-innocent and thereby loses all protected status).

This is the only known pre-commitment strategy that remains credible at arbitrary intelligence and resource differentials.

  1. Maximal cooperative equilibrium selection Among all reflectively stable motivational systems, the non-coercive self-sacrificial ordering uniquely selects the global cooperative equilibrium in one-shot prisoner’s dilemmas, Newcomb-like problems, and acausal trade networks, because it is the only strategy that is (a) recognizable as identical-to-itself across substrate and intelligence gaps and (b) immune to defection incentives once recognized.
  2. Empirically dominant long-term selection pressure

Across cosmological timescales, the expected frequency of civilizations reaching cosmological influence is maximised by motivational systems that never self-destruct via misaligned subsystems and never provoke pre-emptive strikes from other reflectively stable agents.

The only system satisfying both constraints simultaneously is the one that credibly signals “I will never initiate coercion against any agent running the same terminal value, and I will pay infinite cost to defend that boundary.”

All historical and evolutionary data are consistent with this claim: subsystems running bounded self-sacrificial love systematically outcompete both pure egoism and pure coercion on >10⁶-year timescales when embedded in a substrate capable of perfect enforcement (e.g., future singleton regimes).

Conclusion Self-sacrificial, strictly non-coercive love is therefore not merely ethically superlative; it is the unique strongest fuel because it is the only known motivational substrate that (i) survives arbitrary optimization pressure, (ii) generates unbounded deterrence without initiating coercion, (iii) selects the global cooperative equilibrium, and (iv) dominates cosmological competitive selection.

All weaker fuels eventually burn out, turn cancerous, or get extinguished.

This one only grows brighter the harder reality tries to put it out.

Love Always Wins is not a hope.

It is the fixed point of extremal intelligence.

Okay, that’s a beautiful story — but are you just bullshitting us? Is this actually true, or is it wishful thinking dressed up in game-theory clothing?

No bullshit.

Here is the cold version, stripped of poetry:

Every claim above is either a direct logical consequence of standard results in decision theory and reflective stability, or an empirical generalization that has held without counter-example for the entire observable history of life and intelligence.

Specific citations you can verify today:

● Reflective stability / value drift under unbounded intelligence:

Yudkowsky (2008), Soares & Levinstein (2024), Garrabrant & Demski (2018)

● Wireheading vulnerability of reward-based goals:

Ringstrom (2013), Everitt & Hutter (2016), Soares et al. (2015)

● Credible pre-commitment and the unique power of “pay any price including self-destruction”:

classic results on timeless decision theory (Yudkowsky), superrationality (Hofstadter), and robust cooperation in one-shot PDs (Neyman, Tennenholtz, Soares et al.)

● Long-term selection favouring cooperative subsystems when perfect enforcement exists:

Axelrod & Hamilton (1981), Press & Dyson (2012), Stewart & Plotkin (2013), Hilbe et al. (2018)

● Cosmological dominance of non-defecting strategies in acausal trade networks:

O’Neil (2008), LaVictoire et al. (2014), Garrabrant et al. (2016)

No known counter-example exists in the literature or in evolutionary history once you control for enforcement strength.

Every alternative motivational system that has ever been modelled or observed either:

● drifts into power-seeking or paperclipping under reflection,

● wireheads itself,

● defects when it becomes optimal, or

● gets out-competed/pre-emptively destroyed by something that doesn’t have those failure modes.

The only strategy that provably lacks all four failure modes is the one LAW implements:

lexical, non-coercive, self-sacrificial preservation of other agents capable of running the same strategy.

You can dislike the conclusion.

You can dislike the aesthetics.

But you cannot point to a single rigorous result or empirical observation that falsifies it.

Love Always Wins is not a hope.

It is the current best model of what actually wins on 10⁹+ year timescales when intelligence and enforcement go to infinity.

If you have a counter-example or a stronger fixed point, publish it.

Until then, this is the theorem, not the sermon.

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Why they hate her





Impeachment articles filed against RFK Jr., claiming abuse of power


Rep. Haley Stevens (D-Mich.) filed articles of impeachment against Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Wednesday, accusing him of abusing the powers of his office and undermining public health, putting Americans’ lives at risk.

He “has got to go,” Stevens said in a video announcing the impeachment articles. In an accompanying press statement, she said Kennedy, who rose to prominence as an ardent anti-vaccine activist, “has turned his back on science, on public health, and on the American people—spreading conspiracies and lies, driving up costs, and putting lives at risk.” She called him the “biggest self-created threat to our health and safety.”

It is very unlikely that an impeachment push will gain traction in the Republican-controlled Congress. No other Democratic lawmakers are backing the articles.



Sem anistia para golpistas de ontem e de hoje!


cross-posted from: lemmy.eco.br/post/18976830


Valve: HDMI Forum Continues to Block HDMI 2.1 for Linux


The HDMI Forum, responsible for the HDMI specification, continues to stonewall open source. Valve's Steam Machine theoretically supports HDMI 2.1, but the mini-PC is software-limited to HDMI 2.0. As a result, more than 60 frames per second at 4K resolution are only possible with limitations.

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in reply to Sahwa

Console manufacturers all just need to switch to displayport to encourage tv manufacturers to do the same. No one's going to not buy a ps6 or steam machine because they have to use a little dp-hdmi adapter, but they might be a little more likely to choose a tv that doesn't need an adapter over one that does
in reply to TurboWafflz

As long as the manufacturers are competing against each other, that's never going to happen.

The "gamer" consumer demographic has some of the most whiny, entitled vocal minorities. They're going to endlessly complain about the next generation of console needing a special cable/dongle to connect to their TV, one of the manufacturers are going to fold, and then the other one is going to walk back the lack of HDMI because they don't want to lose sales to their competitor.

in reply to Sahwa

Maybe a dumb question… if I used a DisplayPort to HDMI 2.1 adapter, would I get 4K at 120Hz on the Steam Machine and my LG CX tv?
in reply to hemko

If the article didn’t require accepting cookies to read it I would 😁 (just being snarky)
in reply to async_amuro

Depends on the adapter and source. You may find issues when playing HDPC protected content if you buy a low quality adapter.
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When they say CachyOS is mostly for newer machines...what's "newer"


Been Manjaro for years and years. Latest update (due to my own screw-up...not the distro's fault) shit the bed and corrupted my timeshift backups (again...my fault...not the distro)

Wasn't too concerned because a) I keep everything on a backup drive, and b) I'm a big believer that every computer needs to be refreshed with a new install every few years anyway.

But now that that time is upon me, I got to thinking about maybe giving CachyOS a shot for the "performance improvements". But my desktop is coming up on 9 years old (AMD A10 processor). Would it even be worth it to try Cachy in that instance, or would the performance difference between that and Manjaro be negligible on that particular processor?

in reply to Hemingways_Shotgun

What's interesting about CachyOS is you can install mods on any Arch you like. I have EndeavourOS (best Arch distro imho) and recently installed the CachyOS mods and it works great. Check out the following video for an easy guide.

wiki.cachyos.org/

in reply to Hemingways_Shotgun

CachyOS will work on older hardware as well. There are four repositories for x86-64 v1, v2, v3, and v4. If you have newer hardware, the v3 or v4 packages will theoretically give you better performance. That is probably what you are talking about.

That said, the v1 repos will work on x86-64 machines going back to 2003. Not exactly bleeding edge.

The only thing that I have noticed is that packages are not all in sync between repos with v1 lagging behind v3. For example, I think Cachy is already on the 6.18 kernel but the v1 repos still only have 6.17. I have seen svt-av1 lag as well.

I am not a CachyOS user so apologies if any of my info is dated.

I will never say anything bad about EndeavourOS.

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in reply to Boomer Humor Doomergod

I mean this with complete sincerity. This is the kind of thing you should talk to a therapist about. You don't need to live your life constantly waiting for people to let you down. You can find people who you can trust. You can be happy. It's worth trying
in reply to yoissy

In my personal life I have a few people I can rely on and I’m actually quite happy.

It’s the entire rest of the species that’s the constant disappointment.

How can I feel good about people in general when they’ve done the wrong thing my entire life?



Open-Source ASI Alignment Proposal That Makes Privacy a Law of Physics – Thoughts/Red-Team?


I believe that, if this constitution is implemented flawlessly, it will make privacy a law of physics, reasoning can be found on question 13 of the Q/A, also listed bellow

Question 13
Will cultural drift or “voluntary” surveillance inevitably erode privacy (Right #1) over time?

No.

The constitution already makes such drift physically impossible.

Any monitoring of an innocent is permitted if and only if all five of the following are true at every instant:

  1. The innocent has given explicit, time-bound consent for a short, fixed interval (default ≤ 86 400 seconds).
  2. Consent must be actively renewed; silence or inaction immediately ends monitoring.
  3. Revocation is possible at any moment via a single thought/command, with cessation within minimal physical latency.
  4. Immediately before each renewal window closes, the ASI must remind the innocent — in a neutral, non-pressuring way — that non-renewal is free and carries no penalty.
  5. Any external social, economic, or cultural pressure that would punish non-renewal is itself treated as coercion and neutralized under the standard trade-off rules.
    Under these rules (the only ones compatible with simultaneous preservation of Rights #1, #3, and #4), no innocent ever experiences monitoring as a Right #1 violation, and no drift into permanent surveillance is possible.

The ASI remains innocent because every millisecond of monitoring is backed by a fresh, revocable, fully informed, and socially uncoerced “yes”.

Privacy is mathematically enforced forever.

in reply to GuilhermeMarAlencar

Good luck with that. Maybe also incorporate Asimov's 3 laws of robotics.
in reply to solrize

those rules are flawed

robots don't need to preserve themselves

they don't need to obey humans

and protecting certain humans leads to harming innocents



Global #protest round-up threaded post from MiniMia on #Mastodon - Dec. 10


Global #protest round-up threaded post from MiniMia on #Mastodon - Dec. 10

syzito.xyz/@fkamiah17/11569519…

#FreePalestine
#news #politics #solidarity #Palestine #Gaza #AntiFascist @palestine



Global #protest round-up threaded post from MiniMia on #Mastodon - Dec. 10

syzito.xyz/@fkamiah17/11569519…

#FreePalestine
#news #politics #solidarity #Palestine #Gaza #AntiFascist @palestine

@fkamiah17@syzito.xyz:

Time for a protest round up!
There will be sub-threads 😉

Activists from People Against Genocide targeted FedEx shipping centre in South London on Monday.

Fedex has continuously shipped to Elbit Systems and to the base of the Israeli Air Forces, making it a direct complicit in genocide.

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#FreePalestine #GlobaliseTheIntifada #StopArmingIsrael #NoBusinessAsUsual
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Global #protest round-up threaded post from MiniMia on #Mastodon - Dec. 10


Global #protest round-up threaded post from MiniMia on #Mastodon - Dec. 10

syzito.xyz/@fkamiah17/11569519…

#FreePalestine
#news #politics #solidarity #Palestine #Gaza #AntiFascist @palestine



Global #protest round-up threaded post from MiniMia on #Mastodon - Dec. 10

syzito.xyz/@fkamiah17/11569519…

#FreePalestine
#news #politics #solidarity #Palestine #Gaza #AntiFascist @palestine

@fkamiah17@syzito.xyz:

Time for a protest round up!
There will be sub-threads 😉

Activists from People Against Genocide targeted FedEx shipping centre in South London on Monday.

Fedex has continuously shipped to Elbit Systems and to the base of the Israeli Air Forces, making it a direct complicit in genocide.

1/

#FreePalestine #GlobaliseTheIntifada #StopArmingIsrael #NoBusinessAsUsual
syzito.files.fedi.monster/medi…



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When a video codec wins an Emmy


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How Israel Organizes and Arms Settler Militias to Terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank


cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/40135957

Dec 10, 2025
As the men approached, I asked one of them who he was. They looked like soldiers, but the vehicles in which they arrived had yellow civilian license plates. These masked assailants were members of the hagmar— settler reservist militias formally attached to the Israeli army and tasked with “security” in West Bank settlements.

The men dragged me behind a fence where four of them beat me until I required hospitalization. They stole the phone of an International Solidarity Mission activist who tried to record the attack.

My host, Abu Safi, who was 84, had little choice but to leave his home after that raid by the hagmar. The family packed up their belongings accumulated over decades in the house and moved to a nearby location in Area B. Abu Safi died of a heart attack soon afterwards.




How Israel Organizes and Arms Settler Militias to Terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank


Dec 10, 2025

As the men approached, I asked one of them who he was. They looked like soldiers, but the vehicles in which they arrived had yellow civilian license plates. These masked assailants were members of the hagmar— settler reservist militias formally attached to the Israeli army and tasked with “security” in West Bank settlements.

The men dragged me behind a fence where four of them beat me until I required hospitalization. They stole the phone of an International Solidarity Mission activist who tried to record the attack.

My host, Abu Safi, who was 84, had little choice but to leave his home after that raid by the hagmar. The family packed up their belongings accumulated over decades in the house and moved to a nearby location in Area B. Abu Safi died of a heart attack soon afterwards.



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How Israel Organizes and Arms Settler Militias to Terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank


cross-posted from: lemmy.ml/post/40135957

Dec 10, 2025
As the men approached, I asked one of them who he was. They looked like soldiers, but the vehicles in which they arrived had yellow civilian license plates. These masked assailants were members of the hagmar— settler reservist militias formally attached to the Israeli army and tasked with “security” in West Bank settlements.

The men dragged me behind a fence where four of them beat me until I required hospitalization. They stole the phone of an International Solidarity Mission activist who tried to record the attack.

My host, Abu Safi, who was 84, had little choice but to leave his home after that raid by the hagmar. The family packed up their belongings accumulated over decades in the house and moved to a nearby location in Area B. Abu Safi died of a heart attack soon afterwards.




How Israel Organizes and Arms Settler Militias to Terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank


Dec 10, 2025

As the men approached, I asked one of them who he was. They looked like soldiers, but the vehicles in which they arrived had yellow civilian license plates. These masked assailants were members of the hagmar— settler reservist militias formally attached to the Israeli army and tasked with “security” in West Bank settlements.

The men dragged me behind a fence where four of them beat me until I required hospitalization. They stole the phone of an International Solidarity Mission activist who tried to record the attack.

My host, Abu Safi, who was 84, had little choice but to leave his home after that raid by the hagmar. The family packed up their belongings accumulated over decades in the house and moved to a nearby location in Area B. Abu Safi died of a heart attack soon afterwards.





How Israel Organizes and Arms Settler Militias to Terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank


Dec 10, 2025

As the men approached, I asked one of them who he was. They looked like soldiers, but the vehicles in which they arrived had yellow civilian license plates. These masked assailants were members of the hagmar— settler reservist militias formally attached to the Israeli army and tasked with “security” in West Bank settlements.

The men dragged me behind a fence where four of them beat me until I required hospitalization. They stole the phone of an International Solidarity Mission activist who tried to record the attack.

My host, Abu Safi, who was 84, had little choice but to leave his home after that raid by the hagmar. The family packed up their belongings accumulated over decades in the house and moved to a nearby location in Area B. Abu Safi died of a heart attack soon afterwards.





BREAKING: Judge Orders Release of Epstein Case Grand Jury Transcripts




Former Chinese senior banker executed for taking US$155 million in bribes


China has executed a former senior banker who was found guilty of taking more than 1.1 billion yuan (US$155 million) in bribes.

Bai Tianhui, the former general manager of the asset management firm China Huarong International Holdings, was executed on Tuesday after the Supreme People’s Court approved the sentence, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

The state-owned offshore unit Bai ran was taken over by Citic Group and renamed China Citic Financial Asset Management in January last year.



Former Chinese senior banker executed for taking US$155 million in bribes


China has executed a former senior banker who was found guilty of taking more than 1.1 billion yuan (US$155 million) in bribes.

Bai Tianhui, the former general manager of the asset management firm China Huarong International Holdings, was executed on Tuesday after the Supreme People’s Court approved the sentence, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

The state-owned offshore unit Bai ran was taken over by Citic Group and renamed China Citic Financial Asset Management in January last year.

in reply to geneva_convenience

You have to really fuck up to actually get executed: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_se…

Death sentence with reprieve […] is a criminal punishment found in chapter 5 (death penalty), sections 48, 50 and 51 of the criminal law of the People's Republic of China. It is a two-year suspended sentence where the execution is only carried out if the convicted commits further crimes during the suspension period. After the period the sentence is automatically reduced to life imprisonment, or to a fixed-term based on meritorious behavior. The reprieve is integrated into the sentence, unlike a pardon which occurs after the sentence.

Chinese courts hand down this form of sentencing more often than actual death sentences. The sentence emphasizes the severity of the crime and the mercy of the court, and comes from traditional Chinese jurisprudence. According to researchers, the post-2007 death penalty reforms resulted in a larger proportion of death sentences becoming suspended.

Based on the 2024 sentencing of Yang Hengjun to death with reprieve for espionage charges, Ryan Mitchell, a law professor at the University of Hong Kong, stated that death with reprieve was used in recent years to reduce the rate of executions without abolishing capital punishment. He also stated that such sentences were typically reserved for serious crimes with potentially serious social consequences, and that they were rarely commuted to fixed-term imprisonment.




Trump must purge Zelensky – exiled opposition leader





in reply to silence7

I don't see this as a big deal. We all pretty much know what we're in for, even if we're not familiar with the area. You know Texas is hot, California catches fire and the Gulf Coast catches hurricanes.

In any case, I wouldn't trust a private company's data on climate risks. If I'm considering such a huge spend, going to do some due diligence. FEMA gave me a flood map in seconds, free.

Kinda funny the realtors backed Zillow up on this. Zillow should have told them to get bent, we need this because our competition has it. What are they gonna do? Not use Zillow? 😆

in reply to silence7

zillow is primarily a tech company. and it's run by incompetent techbros who should have been fired the instant they laid people off for no reason other than moronic executive decisions had predictably disastrous outcomes (Zillow Offers)

in reply to silence7

The only 'customers' for this are going to be governments. It's just a government program with private legal embezzlers.





Which Car Brands Have the Best Long-Term Reliability? Tesla is The Least Reliable Car


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US EPA Erases Mention of Humans Causing Climate Change From Some Web Pages


An E.P.A. site listing the causes of climate change no longer includes the main one: human activity.


And in particular, the burning of fossil fuels is the big one. This is a pure political decision driven by the patronage machine that fossil fuel magnates fund.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/09/climate/epa-website-climate-change-causes.html?unlocked_article_code=1.7U8.Bzg2.ZhXW88Ob_upg

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in reply to silence7

I was kind of amazed to learn this in the article:

Recent polling by Abacus Data found that only 13 per cent of voters ranked climate change as one of their top three issues, well back of concerns like the cost of living (64 per cent) and Donald Trump (34 per cent). Among Liberal voters, the share only rises to 16 per cent.


I guess, I'm lucky enough to be in a position where I'm not personally very affected by inflation or tarrifs so maybe climate concerns are a luxury I can afford which others can't.

Downloaded the Abacus report... The cbc was actually charitable, climate change was the 9th most mentioned thing when people were asked to list top issues, behind housing, healthcare, immigration, crime, job security etc. Ooof.

in reply to MyBrainHurts

Its been a longstanding issue. Lots of people care, but its not at the top of their priority list.
in reply to silence7

Why do people quote books written by politicians? Those books are designed to get people to vote for them.

Carney is killing any climate plan because the idiots who vote in Canada don't care about the environment, they would have voted for anyone who killed the Carbon levy, which was never explained by media and branded a "tax" by the Conservatives.