I saw a video go by (didn't watch) saying we should all start programming in Pascal again. Maybe that's where we went wrong and we should be looking to the past for answers instead of the future.

And Wayland's not written in Pascal, so....

💯

All I want is for them to make their existing products not suck. Not chase LLMs (if it's not E2E encrypted with proper isolation, I don't see a reason why someone would pick it over any other provider, Mind2, ollama + Open Web UI, etc.) or for god sake, kill off Proton Wallet.

Give me:

1. Proton Drive for Linux (I know, they're working on an SDK, looking forward to it in 2099).
2. Better photo and content organization in Proton Drive and Proton Photos.
3. Improvements to Proton Pass that make it easier to create new entries with all the different entry types they support. Or make 2FA easier to access instead of creating yet another app (Proton Authenticator).
4. Ability to grab multiple files from Proton Drive at a time without it forcing them into a ZIP file first.

If I didn't know any better, I'd assume KPIs for employees at Proton were measured by how many new things they can release and how many features in their existing products they can avoid implementing.

Do you know that the reason for them moving out of Switzerland is because of changes to the laws there that means another EU country will be better for users?

@protonprivacy

There are some concerning developments described here. Not enough for me to cancel my Proton account yet, but I'll keep an eye on where this goes in the future.

I would never use theirs or any other competing chatbot. The real worry is how these systems consume massive planetary resources, contributing to climate change. Every other concern, including my privacy, pales in comparison.

Proton Mail is also terrible for other reasons.

They hire offshore developers for as cheap as possible, and exploit international wage differences while selling their services at a premium making you think it's all made in Switzerland.

The only thing made in Switzerland that Proton makes is probably his mansion.

But I guess most people wouldn't ever know this. I know because I applied to Proton once and they changed me from Switzerland to North Macedonia for a fraction of the Swiss salary.

I was wondering how long something like Proton could remain untainted.

I'm really not sure if digital communications as we currently rely upon them, is worth the bother.

welp!

@protonprivacy

@Tutanota I don't think @protonmail was ever really interested in end-to-end encryption that actually works with most email clients...

protonmail.uservoice.com/forum…

reddit.com/r/ProtonMail/commen…

Autocrypt support

Autocrypt is easy to setup, so people are likely to use it more than plain PGP. ProtonMail should have autocrypt configured automatically (for non-protonmail addresses) since there's nothing users can lose by using autocrypt.

^{The Voice of the Proton Community}

A FFS I was about to switch all my communication to @protonprivacy. Considering this new aspect I won't.

Bad enough to get AI shoved in the face everywhere but if it kind of removes the whole USP of a product well then I'm not interested any longer.

As a product manager I can only say, good job wrecking your own product 🙃

As a possible customer/consumer I am simply deeply disappointed.

> If this prompt is the real deal, then your files and everything else are just dumped into the model’s context. That means your request and your previously end-to-end-encrypted files will now exist unencrypted at rest on Proton’s servers.

What is the logic going from prompt to “they store data”? They have been 100% transparent - the llm processes data when you do a request, and doesn’t store data….

This article is honestly bull.

This toot is misleading. Their AI chatbot is not ripping apart their E2EE, they clearly state that for it to work, you have to send your data to it. Your chat history is E2EE.

Also, it doesn't change anything for the other products so just don't use the bot and you are good.

Finally, they are planning to potentially move out of Switzerland because the laws are changing and they will do that to protect their users.

Damn!

I don't much care about the email, but they handle my VPN. I just switched from Express. Switch back? Do you have any recommendations on a VPN?