I don't know if installing from the repositories is such a fantastic idea. I've had instances where I've almost fucked up a device because I installed the ones from the repositories and they weren't new enough. I would recommend downloading the ones from Google directly.

Edit: the cli platform-tools

On the surface. DivestedOS has a whole laundry list of bugs and defects that /e/ hasn't patched in yeeeeaarrs. Including how many holes their so-called 'IP scrambler' actually has.

Your coworkers would be safer with stock. Or Lineage. Or literally anything else.

If OP was trying to secure themselves against interest from conventional state actor like a large intelligence service, I'd say they probably need to throw their phone in a woodchipper and start hitchhiking to the nearest professional spy training program.

More realistic concerns that an ordinary person probably has are casual mass surveillance and local police fuckery. Random AOSP Roms are not sufficient to handle either of those threats.

They're actually pretty good at protecting you from casual mass surveillance as long as you don't do anything stupid with them, that was the whole point of my post. It's just not profitable to spy on you if they have to bother to put any effort into it.

I also think you're overestimating the capabilities of most local police. When I said state level actors I wasn't just talking about the NSA. Smaller countries, actual US states, or even some big cities would be included there, but your local small town police department wouldn't even know where to start. If you plan on personally pissing off any of those bigger police agencies then you should really just be assuming no phone is safe. Otherwise you're not likely to run into anyone that even knows what de-googled android is, let alone how to get into it.

Our local PD literally have access to stingrays, cellbrite/Pegasus (I don't actually know which one they pay for) and military weaponry. In the suburbs, they have armored vehicles as well (tanks and APCs, not armored swat trucks).

Obviously it varies by where you live because different departments will have different levels of funding and will ask for different toys from the feds, but you'd be surprised how comically over equipped many PDs are.

I love the idea of the easy installer.

looks at GrapheneOS installer.... Literally just 3 buttons on a Website you have to click, all of the steps easily written with clear instructions for Linux as well as windows

looks at /e/ installer
- finds 5 Websites with installers for /e/, all of them apparantly official ones, decided to use https://e.foundation/installer/
- Site dosent let you view this instructions without JavaScript.
- enabled JS
- Cant even use fcking Firefox to view this installer because a fcking pop-up Blocks my sight
- goddamn privacy oriented Android Rom Website recommends using Microsoft edge or Opera (both of which are privacy nightmares, especially opera)
- smashes pillow against the wall

I give up. If you call that bloated peace of dierrhea an „Easy installer”, you could just as well say that gentoo is easier to install than mint.

My Problem is not that you dont have a Pixel, but that /e/ 's Website is literal dogpoop, and that already tells a lot about their OS. Like, they are in a literal conflict to support other, maybe even more privacy friendly backup for cloud systems because the already have their own

Does your phone support anything else? LOS, Calyx, etc

Does your phone support anything else? LOS, Calyx, etc

Yes only LOS

Came here literally to comment this. Hooooly fuck, I would not trust /e/ as far as I can throw a Fairphone. Good thing they're compostable, becauze that's the only up they have on a Graphene flash.

Until I can take a basic actionable step to ensuring my information is safe like LOCKING MY BOOTLOADER... I am good over here.

very very bad

Care to elaborate?

/e/ greatly reduces security vs. AOSP via added attack surface, weakened security model and slow patches.

eylenburg.github.io/android_co…

privsec.dev/posts/android/choo…

Choosing Your Android-Based Operating System

Android is a secure operating system that has strong app sandboxing, Verified Boot (AVB), and a robust permission control system.

^{Tommy (PrivSec - A practical approach to Privacy and Security)}

Damn. That's such a shame, I was considering the fairphone with /e/ os but it's looking less and less appealing. I guess flashing it with CalyxOS and removing/replacing microg might be the better option. Either that or bite the bullet and get a pixel n' flash GrapheneOS to it.

I deeply aplreciate your expansion on the matter 😀

GrapheneOS is the best option we have today.

Don't forget to donate to the project.

grapheneos.org/donate

GrapheneOS donations

Donating to support development of GrapheneOS.

^GrapheneOS

After my fairphone 3 died, I bought a Fairphone 4 via murena.

wait you didn't buy a replacement battery? 🤨