Reminder: Proton Mail addresses have vendor lock-in
Both auto-forwarding and auto-reply are paid features, which makes cancelling & switching much more difficult. Gmail is a breeze comparatively. I highly recommend against using their addresses (e.g. protonmail.com
, proton.me
, pm.me
)
Email forwarding is available for everyone with a paid Proton Mail plan.
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How to use email forwarding | Proton
With email forwarding, you can automatically forward emails sent to your Proton Mail account to any email address.Proton
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Renewables are winning on every metric. It seems that nuclear and fossils had to capture cultural and political power in order to survive. You can't build non-renewable power plants or sell ice cars on the merits anymore. But if you foster a political movement built on contrarian resentment and have the power of government, you can ram through obviously senseless megaprojects or mandate the continued use of dying technology. The madness of our current political moment with unpopular leaders forcing idiotic decisions makes more sense if seen as the dying battle of non-renewable energy.
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Deadly ‘pharaoh’s curse fungus’ could be used to fight cancer
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Deadly ‘pharaoh's curse fungus’ could be used to fight cancer | Popular Science
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La più radicata preferenza sull'avere figli è sempre meno radicata - Il Post
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La più radicata preferenza sull’avere figli è sempre meno radicata
Da un po' di tempo in molti paesi del mondo si desidera maggiormente avere delle femmine rispetto ai maschiIl Post
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[LUCCA] COMUNE E NEOFASCISTI: UN'INQUIETANTE COMPLICITÀ - Potere al Popolo
Potere al Popolo: l'iniziativa di Forza Nuova a Lucca conferma la connivenza dell'amministrazione coi movimenti neofascistiRosa (Potere al Popolo)
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Questo è il documento che tutti dovrebbero leggere:
come il governo #Berlusconi sfacciatamente garantì ogni appoggio agli #USA per distruggere #Iraq nel 2003:
"Abbiamo ottenuto tutto quello che abbiamo chiesto", scriveva la diplomazia USA
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a farmi capire a che tipo di leadership politica e intellettuale siamo in mano non è solo quello che la diplomazia americana scrive, ma il silenzio assoluto della leadership intellettuale italiana su questi fatti gravissimi: la complicità è choccante
da 80 anni, noi italiani abbiamo una classe intellettuale dominante che ha una funzione: farci governare in modo neocoloniale da Stati Uniti e Israele
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In West Virginia, Medicaid is a lifeline. GOP cuts could devastate the state.
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Analysis | How Israel deceived the United States about its nuclear weapons program
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Trump aides once helped elect Netanyahu, reflecting leaders’ deep ties
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Andrew Cuomo wants to be New York’s mayor. Do Democrats want him back?
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Trump’s Iran airstrikes test Kim Jong Un’s nerves — and his appetite for talks | NK News
The U.S. airstrikes that crippled Iran’s nuclear sites over the weekend are likely reshaping the strategic calculus in Pyongyang.alannahhill (NK News)
Led By Donkeys on Instagram: "Nine years ago the godfather of Brexit Lord Daniel Hannan predicted life in Brexit Britain in June 2025. Roll the tape… (VO by @gavin_esler )"
11K likes, 269 comments - ledbydonkeys on June 22, 2025: "Nine years ago the godfather of Brexit Lord Daniel Hannan predicted life in Brexit Britain in June 2025. Roll the tape… (VO by @gavin_esler )".Instagram
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#CalvinAndHobbes by #BillWatterson on GoComics
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Read Calvin and Hobbes—a comic strip by creator Bill Watterson—for today, June 23, 2025, and check out other great comics, too!www.gocomics.com
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"Qualsiasi forma di appoggio [dell'Italia] a queste azioni [attacco all'#Iran] è illecito dal punto di vista del diritto internazionale ed è contro l’articolo 11 della Costituzione. Si assumano le proprie responsabilità"
Da leggere #LorenzoGiarelli:
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Attacco all’Iran, Pasquale De Sena: “Siamo fuori dal diritto. Ogni aiuto nei raid viola la Costituzione”
“Non possiamo giocare con le parole. Portolano deve chiarire cosa intende per “direttamente”. Qualsiasi forma di appoggio a queste azioni è illecito dal punto di vista del diritto internazionale ed è contro l’articolo 11 della Costituzione”Lorenzo Giarelli (Il Fatto Quotidiano)
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Europe’s Two-Front War
Trump’s second term has rattled NATO, pushing Europe to boost defense spending and seek greater independence. As U.S. support grows uncertain, the EU is beginning to build its own security and intelligence capacities. The upcoming NATO summit may signal a historic shift in Europe’s role and the future of the alliance.
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Europe’s Two-Front War: Putin, Trump, and the Future of NATO
Putin, Trump, and the future of NATO.Gideon Rose and Erik Jones (Foreign Affairs Magazine)
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A weakened Iran could turn to assassination and terrorism to strike back
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Welcome to the algo-state 🤖
The government is embracing automated, opaque systems to make decisions affecting our lives while making it easier to share and repurpose personal data across departments.
And with the UK #DataAct, we have less ability to put right what AI gets wrong.
Next up, the AI Bill...
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India Is Using AI and Satellites to Map Urban Heat Vulnerability Down to the Building Level
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Hallo @RegierungBW @stuttgart - wann auch bei uns anstatt des flächendeckenden Einsatzes von #cisco webex und #microsoftshit?
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in reply to bl4kers • • •Thank you for raising this point.
Are there even other privacy-respecting email providers that are fit for the job? I'm genuinely curious.
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in reply to HayadSont • • •Mailbox.org is a good pick to consider IMO. You can read some comparisons on PrivacyGuides, which I also recommend as a starting point for these sorts of topics. The mailbox.org web UI is not great, but it allows IMAP/SMTP access, so I use Thunderbird on both desktop and Android in order to interact with my inbox. My inbox is auto-encrypted with PGP using their Mailbox Guard thing, so my emails are all encrypted garbage on the web UI anyway. Mailbox.org only allows paid-for accounts, but considering the annoying stuff that Proton and Tuta do to their free accounts I'd rather just be honest about the service I'm getting. It allows auto-forwarding directly in the web UI, but given that you can hook up to it with IMAP anyway, it's not like you couldn't just do it yourself.
(Also, as another comment said I also recommend DuckDuckGo's Email Protection for email aliasing if you need it.)
Encrypted Private Email Recommendations - Privacy Guides
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in reply to DominusOfMegadeus • • •That's the "special application" I mentioned, but it seems to have been updated since I last looked at it so it now offers the same level of encryption as the webmail app.
I would prefer to see it freely available, but it doesn't seem foundational to using the service in any scenario - free accounts have the webmail and mobile clients, which are arguably both more flexible (and maintainable) than the Bridge.
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in reply to bl4kers • • •Yes I realized this too late, after I had already used the private email adresses from proton pass everywhere.
My solution ( while not completely private but better than using the same one everywhere)
Is to use my own firstname.lastname@domainicontroll.com for thing already linked to personal info and then set up custom domain for proton pass hidden emails to @fuckgoogle.otherdomain.com
Then if proton ever goes to shit I can still go to another email provider and all I have to do is move the domains. Yes it isn't free but there is no such thing as a free lunch, self hosting isn't free either and I don't have the mental bandwidth to self host an email server right now.
utopiah
in reply to coffeetastesbadlikecoffee • • •Nothing is preventing you from changing those email addresses to the one you now have on your own domain.
The ignorance from OP is not vendor lock-in.
coffeetastesbadlikecoffee
in reply to utopiah • • •masterspace
in reply to utopiah • • •Uh, yes there is, by the inherent nature of how addresses (i.e. public identifiers) work.
An IP address, email address, physical address, etc, is a mechanism to have a string of text, become a unique identifier for something, so that you can just share that piece of text to refer to it.
Once you give out that piece of text, you no longer have control of it. I can give it to someone and then someone else could ask them about it, and they pass it on, and now I have no idea who has this unique identifier that represents me anywhere out there in the world. I can ask the first person to update their records but I have no guarantee that they'll do it successfully or that they'll remember every single person who they gave it out to you update.
By the very nature of being an identity provider, you are inherently offering your users something that they should be able to fully own in perpetuity. In those circumstances, it's problematic if an identity provider insists that you always have to pay for its services, just to have communication from your old identity forwarded.
gkak.laₛ
in reply to bl4kers • • •Reminder of this:
poolp.org/posts/2019-08-30/you…
And that mailu.io (and other similar projects) makes self-hosting email almost trivial 😁 (at least for people that can run a pre-configured
docker-compose.yml
and buy their domain etc)You should not run your mail server because mail is hard
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in reply to bl4kers • • •utopiah
in reply to bl4kers • • •No, Proton email addresses do not. I have ProtonMail addresses using my domain. If tomorrow I point to another email provider, Proton can do nothing about it.
Being paid feature vs free is not vendor lock-in.
You are spreading misinformation, either by misrepresenting the situation or by not understanding what "vendor" (an arguable term since apparently you are focusing on the free version) is lock-in means.
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in reply to ReversalHatchery • • •masterspace
in reply to utopiah • • •I think OP is overblowing things, and is especially misguided in recommending gmail, but at the same time, they do have a valid point and I think you're somewhat misrepresenting what they said.
For one, they specifically said that the proton domain email addresses are problematic (
protonmail.com
,pm.me
), and weren't talking about custom domains that sit in front of Proton mail.For two, their point is valid. Auto-forwarding being paid, does create vendor lock-in and make it hard to switch away from Protonmail if you use the OOTB addresses. It's something worth considering.
As you said, the recommendation should be to use a custom domain that sits in front of Protonmail rather than switching to Gmail, but paid auto-forwarding is a valid criticism.
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in reply to Zoma • • •I have selfhosted my mail on my own domain, on a server in my closet, for about 4 years. In that time I never switched over realy important things, like government etc, out of fear of missing an email and not knowing. That was the only reason not to switch for me.
I've had to move a few times in a short peroid and my career started taking more of my time, so I have less time to manage the server, thus I started looking around. Now I settled on proton, I don't use any of their domains, only my own, and I've switched literally everything over, except for the recovery mail for my domain registrar login.
Since proton hosts professionally, I trust them not to drop mails without telling me, and I don't realy see a reason not to switch over. If I ever want to move provider, or start selfhosting again, I'll setup the new provider, update the dns for my domain and done.
If you have some specific questions about my setup or choices, let me know, although I'm probably not able to reply in the next 12ish hours.
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in reply to CoyoteFacts • • •CoyoteFacts
in reply to basiclemmon98 • • •The straw that broke the camel's back for me is the CEO's icky tweet about how great Republicans are for your privacy and how they stand up for the little guys (what), which they doubled down on using the official Reddit Proton account. There's already been a ton of discussion about this on the internet if you care to look for more angles on it.
But before that I'd already grown quite leery of them for their trend of endlessly starting new services before the old ones are polished, along with trying to push everyone into their walled garden and endlessly using naggy popups in the UI about it. Worst of all, they have a clear trend of not giving a damn about Linux support, sometimes giving up on certain features for their Linux clients or releasing the clients way after the Windows/Mac versions. For a "privacy company", not putting Linux as a first-class citizen is really just unacceptable, and they've been around for long enough that it's clearly a trend and not a fluke. To me, Proton just feels like a wannabe version of Apple. Its continued actions give me the feeling that it exists to serve itself, not its users.
basiclemmon98
in reply to CoyoteFacts • • •flatbield
in reply to bl4kers • • •All email services have vendor lock-in unless your using your own domain.
For what it is worth, I just moved my mail from my ISP to my own domain at a hosting service after 30 years. Took about 5 months to get everything changed but if I can do it anyone can.
Downside, using your own domain is probably less private but kind of depends.
unskilled5117
in reply to bl4kers • • •Workaround:
1. Use Thunderbird Desktop with Proton Mail Bridge
2. Create a filter inside Thunderbird to forward the mail
While that requires Thunderbird to be running on a desktop, it might still be preferable to checking your proton account
Proton Mail Bridge Thunderbird setup guide for Windows, macOS, and Linux | Proton
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in reply to unskilled5117 • • •quickenparalysespunk
in reply to bl4kers • • •if you're not actually promoting gmail, you ought to make that explicitly clear.
by pointing out something bad about proton and praising gmail's version of that, it looks like you're doing nothing other than recommending gmail in a privacy community.
everyone already knows gmail has high usability and convenience and zero (financial) cost. using it as an example in this community is redundant and ineffective. better to use another e2ee email service as an example.
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