Meat is a leading emissions source – but few outlets report on it, analysis finds
Meat is a leading emissions source – but few outlets report on it, analysis finds
Sentient Media reveals less than 4% of climate news stories mention animal agriculture as source of carbon emissionsJoe Fassler (The Guardian)
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2 newly launched NASA missions will help scientists understand the influence of the Sun, both from up close and afar
Studying the Sun helps researchers understand how space weather can affect technology back on Earth.The Conversation
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Web Key Directory (WKD): Automatic E-mail Encryption with Your Domain Name
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The tide has turned for our ocean.
With 60 ratifications, the High Seas Treaty will enter into force in early 2026.
It enables vast marine protected areas, sustainability, and fairness so no country is left behind.
Together with EU nations, we led a coalition of over 40 countries to make this happen.
Now we call on more countries to come on board.
Protecting the ocean is urgent and essential for us, our planet, and future generations.
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Global ocean conservation treaty enters into force
Yesterday marks a historic milestone for ocean conservation as the Biodiversity Beyond National Jurisdiction (BBNJ) Agreement reached 60 ratifications, triggering its entry into force in early 2026.European Commission - European Commission
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How Many Humans Have Reached Space
The question of how many humans have reached space continues to spark public interest. As of late September 2025, ten people are currently orbiting Earth aboard the International Space Station, representing different space agencies from the United States, Russia, Europe, and Asia. Meanwhile, over six hundred individuals have made the journey beyond our planet since the dawn of human spaceflight more than six decades ago.
This figure highlights not only the remarkable progress achieved since Yuri Gagarin’s pioneering mission in 1961 but also the rapid expansion of access to space. From Cold War rivalries to today’s era of international cooperation and private industry involvement, the human presence beyond Earth has grown into a global phenomenon.
Expanding Human Presence in Space
The growth in the number of humans in space reflects a shift from exclusive government programs to broader participation that includes commercial missions. Initially dominated by the United States and the Soviet Union, human spaceflight is now shared by agencies such as ESA, JAXA, and even private firms like SpaceX and Blue Origin.
This transformation has redefined what it means to be an astronaut. Tourists, scientists, and international representatives are now part of the statistics, signaling a future where space travel could be as accessible as air travel one day.
Historical Milestones in Human Spaceflight
The first breakthrough occurred in April 1961, when Yuri Gagarin became the first human to orbit Earth. His journey lasted only 108 minutes but marked a defining moment in the history of exploration. Soon after, American astronaut Alan Shepard conducted a suborbital flight, followed by John Glenn, who became the first American to orbit Earth.
During the 1960s and 1970s, the space race reached its peak with Apollo missions, culminating in Neil Armstrong’s historic moon landing in 1969. These achievements cemented space exploration as a frontier of human ambition and technological prowess. The Soviet Union, meanwhile, pioneered long-duration missions aboard the Salyut and Mir space stations, laying the groundwork for today’s ISS operations.
The Role of the International Space Station
Launched in 1998, the International Space Station represents the largest and most enduring human outpost in orbit. It hosts astronauts continuously, serving as a laboratory for scientific research and a platform for testing new technologies. More than 250 people from nearly 20 nations have visited the ISS, making it the most internationally inclusive program in space history.
The station is also a symbol of post-Cold War cooperation, with contributions from NASA, Roscosmos, ESA, JAXA, and CSA. Despite political tensions on Earth, the ISS demonstrates how collaboration in space can bridge divides and advance knowledge for the benefit of all humanity.
How Many People Have Reached Space
According to the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI), which defines space as beginning at 100 kilometers above Earth, approximately 642 people have crossed this boundary as of 2025. If using the U.S. definition of 80 kilometers, the number rises slightly, due to the inclusion of additional suborbital flights.
The majority of these spacefarers are from the United States and Russia, accounting for nearly three-quarters of all astronauts and cosmonauts. China has emerged as a significant player since its first human spaceflight in 2003, sending more than twenty taikonauts into orbit.
National Contributions to Spaceflight
The United States leads with more than 350 astronauts, many of whom flew on Apollo, Space Shuttle, and ISS missions. Russia, continuing the legacy of the Soviet Union, has sent over 120 cosmonauts into orbit. China has gradually expanded its space program with the Tiangong space station and lunar exploration ambitions.
Beyond these superpowers, more than 40 countries have sent representatives into space. From Canada to Japan and from the United Arab Emirates to India, the diversity of human spacefarers underscores the global nature of exploration. European astronauts, in particular, have played vital roles in ISS operations and international science collaborations.
The Rise of Commercial Spaceflight
In the past decade, private companies have opened new pathways to space. SpaceX, through NASA’s Commercial Crew Program, regularly ferries astronauts to the ISS. Blue Origin and Virgin Galactic have also conducted suborbital flights, some carrying tourists who experienced a few minutes in microgravity.
This trend expands the pool of individuals who can legitimately claim to have traveled to space. Billionaires, scientists, and private citizens have all joined professional astronauts, raising questions about the future role of tourism in the broader exploration agenda. While critics argue that suborbital hops are not equivalent to orbital missions, supporters view them as vital in democratizing access to space.
What Lies Ahead for Humans in Space
The number of humans who have reached space is expected to increase rapidly in the coming years. Upcoming missions aim to establish permanent bases on the Moon, spearheaded by NASA’s Artemis program and China’s lunar initiatives. These missions will bring a new class of astronauts who will live and work beyond Earth’s orbit for extended periods.
Meanwhile, Mars exploration remains a long-term goal. SpaceX has publicly announced its ambition to transport humans to the Red Planet, potentially within the next decade. If realized, this would represent the most ambitious leap since the Apollo program and could significantly expand the statistics of humans in space.
Expert Perspectives on Future Growth
Space policy experts note that human spaceflight is entering a new phase characterized by international partnerships and commercial investments. “We are at the dawn of a new era where space is no longer the domain of a few nations but a shared human frontier,” said Dr. Laura Forczyk, a U.S.-based space analyst.
Economists also point to the growing space economy, which is projected to surpass one trillion dollars by 2040. As demand for satellite services, lunar mining, and orbital manufacturing grows, so too will the need for skilled astronauts and space professionals.
Public Fascination and Cultural Impact
The fascination with human spaceflight extends beyond statistics. Each new mission captures global attention, inspiring documentaries, films, and educational programs. The stories of astronauts serve as a reminder of human resilience and ambition, pushing the boundaries of what is possible.
Social media has amplified this fascination. Astronauts aboard the ISS share real-time images and videos, allowing millions to experience space vicariously. This direct connection with the public strengthens support for funding and sustains excitement for future missions.
The reality today is clear: ten people are currently orbiting Earth, and over six hundred have ventured into space since Gagarin’s first flight. The journey from Cold War rivalry to a diverse and increasingly commercialized landscape reflects humanity’s determination to expand its reach. With the Moon, Mars, and beyond on the horizon, the number of humans in space will continue to rise, shaping not just exploration but the very identity of our species.
For readers who want to follow the latest updates on space exploration, astronaut missions, and international cooperation, continue exploring detailed coverage on Olam News.
Hundreds of thousands evacuate as Vietnam braces for Typhoon Bualoi
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/9/28/hundreds-of-thousands-evacuate-as-vietnam-braces-for-typhoon-bualoi?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Hundreds of thousands evacuate as Vietnam braces for Typhoon Bualoi
Three fishermen are reported missing after their vessels sank off the coast of Quang Tri province.Ted Regencia (Al Jazeera)
9.30 Mentre la Russia ha lanciato un massiccio attacco con droni sull'Ucraina, la Polonia ha chiuso il suo spazio aereo e la sua aeronautica militare ha risposto facendo alzare i suoi jet. Le forze armate hanno fatto decollare aerei caccia nel suo spazio aereo e hanno messo in stato di massima allerta i sistemi di difesa aerea a terra in risposta agli attacchi russi in Ucraina Si tratta di misure preventive che miravano a proteggere lo spazio aereo polacco e i cittadini, soprattutto nelle aree adiacenti all'Ucraina. #televideo #ultimaora
#Cameroun - Les douze visages de la présidentielle epocinfo.fr/journal.php?no=170…
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Bacteria attached to charcoal could help keep an infamous ‘forever chemical’ out of waterways
An environmental engineer explains how his research team is developing a system containing bacteria, biochar and gel to break down pollutants in waterways.The Conversation
"How many people fully appreciate that the felon insurrectionist Trump just falsely declared the blue state of Oregon to be in a state of Rebellion against the United States so he could deploy active-duty military from the Department of War to kill American citizens."
Meanwhile, he *pardoned* the January 6 terrorists. A deranged criminal is waging war on Americans. Yet, the congressional Republicans in charge of Congress, Thune and snake oil scammer Mike Johnson, are derelict in their duties, fail to uphold the laws and fail to act to protect Americans.
At the macro level most criticism of Artificial Intelligence comes down to some version of SkyNet (the AI from the Terminator films that once reaching self-consciousness turns on humanity to protect itself);
so while at the micro level we wonder about the impact of an increasing use of chatbots on education, social life & the world of work, perhaps the macro critics are right; we're actually confronting an existential threat....
So is AI an issue of 'Don't look up'?
#AI #politics #apocalypse
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Yes, I think the points about distraction & the greatest theft are right on the button... however, as we likely agree the existential (SkyNet-like) threat is the one that often seems to get more traction - which as you say is (in the short-term, at least) useful to the real villains of the piece
In meiner Bubble nimmt es gerade überhand, dass Leute nicht mehr die echten URLs sondern #Google Share Links auf Seiten posten. Wenn man die Seiten sehen will, wird man von Google getrackt, ohne von Google zu kommen (sondern zB von hier).
Das ist natürlich kein böser Willen, sondern Bequemlichkeit der Postenden.
Diese Links kommen wohl aus #Chrome oder dem #GoogleNow Screen. Man kann das Verhalten aber auf Android leicht abschalten:
* In Google Now oben auf sein Profilbild klicken
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* "Links zu Webseiten kürzen" ausstellen
Wenn man schon dabei ist, kann man auch gleich "Links in App öffnen ausschalten", dann hält sich auch Godgle Now an die Einstellung für den Default Browser. 😀
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Marquez è campione del Mondo! Guarda l'ultimo giro dello spagnolo
https://video.gazzetta.it/moto/moto-gp/highlights/video-marquez-e-campione-del-mondo-guarda-l-ultimo-giro-dello-spagnolo/fa7f65e9-3831-40ff-a435-d75e555b8xlk?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Marquez è campione del Mondo! Guarda l'ultimo giro dello spagnolo
A Motegi è Bagnaia a trionfare, ma la festa è tutta per Marc Marquez, che si laurea campione del mondo per la settima volta in MotoGP, la nona assoluta considerando anche i titoli 125 e Moto2.La Gazzetta Dello Sport (Gazzetta dello Sport)
Crollo shock: -71% di offerte di lavoro per ingegneri software in tre anni
📌 Link all'articolo : redhotcyber.com/post/crollo-sh…
#redhotcyber #hacking #cti #ai #online #it #cybercrime #cybersecurity #technology #news #cyberthreatintelligence #innovation #privacy
Crollo shock: -71% di offerte di lavoro per ingegneri software in tre anni
Un nuovo rapporto di Google rivela che il 90% degli esperti del settore utilizza strumenti di IA, con un incremento del 14% rispetto al 2024.Redazione RHC (Red Hot Cyber)
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MotoGP Giappone, le pagelle: Marquez rinato, 9. Bagnaia, 8: un lampo di speranza
https://www.gazzetta.it/Moto/moto-GP/28-09-2025/motogp-giappone-le-pagelle-marquez-rinato-9-bagnaia-ti-vogliamo-cosi-8_preview.shtml?reason=unauthenticated&utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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MotoGP Giappone, le pagelle: Marquez rinato, 9. Bagnaia, 8: un lampo di speranza
A Motegi vince Pecco, ma Marc Marquez diventa per la nona volta campione del mondoGiulia Toninelli (La Gazzetta dello Sport)
Larry Ellison envisions a surveillance state in which techbros rule. '“Citizens will be on their best behavior, because we’re constantly recording and reporting everything that is going on,” Ellison said in an hour-long Q&A during Oracle’s Financial Analyst Meeting last week.'
This is the guy who donated £257m to Tony Blair's institute and wants to use all our UK data to train Oracle's AI. Digital ID cards are a step.on the way.
#UKPolitics #Oracle #TBI
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Larry Ellison predicts rise of the modern surveillance state where ‘citizens will be on their best behavior’
Oracle's Larry Ellison believes citizens and police alike will be under constant surveillance of each other.Christiaan Hetzner (Fortune)
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@grb090423 But Farage is sponsored by Musk. Musk is partnered with Thiel of Palantir. Palantir is partnered with Oracle. Oracle is partnered with Tony Blair Institute.
In other words, Labour and ReformUK are *BOTH* in cahoots with those inventing & implementing this system of the #uk #digitalid - one side openly advocates for it, the other is controlled opposition. Nobody is really against it despite how it's being presented to the public, just follow the money trail.
Don't misunderstand me though, I'm most definitely NOT siding with Farage. Nor Blair, Thiel or any of them.
I think we're in a very crappy situation right now.
A reminder of Ellison's influence on Tony Blair...
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#Oracle #TBI #UKPolitics
Inside the Tony Blair Institute
A former PM, Trump's 'CEO of everything' and NHS data - what could go wrong?Peter Geoghegan (Democracy for Sale)
Ducati’s Marc Marquez wins his seventh MotoGP title at Japanese Grand Prix
https://www.aljazeera.com/sports/2025/9/28/marc-marquez-wins-2025-motogp-world-championship-title-at-japan-grand-prix?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Marc Marquez wins 2025 MotoGP world championship at Japanese Grand Prix
The 32-year-old won his first MotoGP riders’ title since 2019 after finishing second to Francesco Bagnaia at Motegi.Al Jazeera
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Israel’s justification for Gaza hospital attack false, Reuters probe finds
Israel falsely claimed a Hamas camera was the target of a deadly strike that killed 22 people, including journalists.Ali Hashem (Al Jazeera)
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Moldova holds parliamentary elections hit by claims of Russian interference
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Moldova holds parliamentary elections hit by claims of Russian interference
Most polls project the governing pro-EU Party of Action and Solidarity in the lead.Al Jazeera
Marquez: "Ho commesso grandi errori in carriera. Ora sono in pace con me stesso"
https://www.gazzetta.it/Moto/moto-GP/28-09-2025/marquez-ho-commesso-grandi-errori-e-sono-tornato-a-vincere-sono-in-pace-con-me-stesso.shtml?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Marquez: "Ho commesso grandi errori in carriera. Ora sono in pace con me stesso"
In Giappone lo spagnolo ha conquistato il nono titolo, il settimo in MotoGP: "Mi voglio godere il momento. In Ducati è iniziata la mia seconda vita"Alessandro Miglio (La Gazzetta dello Sport)
Holgado fa il bis in Moto2. Moto3: vince Munoz, ma Rueda vede il titolo
https://www.gazzetta.it/Moto/moto-2/28-09-2025/moto-2-e-moto-3-in-giappone-successi-per-holgado-e-munoz.shtml?utm_source=flipboard&utm_medium=activitypub
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Holgado fa il bis in Moto2. Moto3: vince Munoz, ma Rueda vede il titolo
Nella classe intermedia vince il pilota Aspar, al secondo centro stagionale. Nella categoria cadetta torna al vertice lo spagnolo del team Intact GP. Il leader iridato allunga, può chiudere i giochi in IndonesiaFederico Mariani (La Gazzetta dello Sport)
Labour conference latest: Sir Keir Starmer is the most unpopular PM in history of pollster - as he says he can 'pull things around'
Sir Keir Starmer is facing devastating polling as the first day of Labour's annual conference kicks off in Liverpool, but he says he can "pull things around". Watch Sunday Morning With Trevor Phillips live from Liverpool at 8.30am.Sky News
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Google Ads Used to Spread Trojan Disguised as TradingView Premium
Bitdefender warns that the TradingView Premium ad scam now targets Google ads and YouTube, hijacking verified channels to spread spyware.Deeba Ahmed (Hack Read)
Japan has unveiled a #breakthrough that could reshape the way we think about energy. Engineers at Kyoto University have developed a coin-sized generator that harvests electricity from moisture in the air. Unlike solar panels or turbines, this tiny device works 24/7, rain or shine, producing a continuous flow of clean power
#JapanTech #CleanEnergy #Innovation #GreenPower #FutureSolutions #ClimateChange
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Japan Builds Coin-Sized Generator That Pulls Power from Air - Geeks Around Globe
Japan’s new coin-sized generator harvests electricity from air moisture 24/7, without sunlight or moving parts. A breakthrough in clean energy tech.MSM Riham (Geeks Around Globe)
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negli uffici che ho frequentato, e quando si cercava di portare sul piatto una conversazione più salutare, cercando di coinvolgere tutti, durava appunto una chiaccherata e poi tutto tornava come prima.
Ma chi me lo fa fare? Ovvio che poi preferisco parlare di lavoro.
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in reply to solo • • •About this article, one thing that I don't like is that once more the focus is on personal decisions. This shifts the focus from a systemic problem to personal problem. It's the industry that dictates regulations and policies through lobbying. Let's keep our eyes on the goal.
Edit: Of course boycotting the industry would be a great solution, and this doesn't even mean that someone needs to be vegan, or that they are loaded wth money. Or even avoiding bying these products would be great. Still, the most important thing imo is that industries stop doing what they do.
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in reply to solo • • •Not_mikey
in reply to solo • • •I mean that's sort of the point of the article. Stopping climate change is going to require both systemic and personal change. Media likes to focus on the systemic parts:
And ignore the personal parts because people don't like to be told "this thing that brings you joy is killing the planet" and are more open to the idea that it's all just the big corporations faults and if we could just control/regulate them we can have a sustainable future without having to change our lifestyle.
We are going to have to change our lifestyle though and meat consumption is going to be a big part of that change. It's also a personal choice, it's not like cars where the system is basically forcing you to drive. You can become vegan or vegetarian tomorrow and the only cost would be to your taste. Sure there are some subsidies nudging you towards consuming meat, but rice and beans is still the cheapest diet there is and no amount of beef subsidies will make a burger the cheaper option.
Geodad
in reply to solo • • •ProdigalFrog
in reply to Geodad • • •It'd be able to pretty easily sustain the current population with more sustainable lifestyles and renewable infrastructure in the most polluting countries.
Industrial meat, consumerism, and fossil fuel use are all driven by capitalism. If we get rid of that and work on addressing those problems, we'd be chill.
azolus
in reply to Geodad • • •This factually incorrect. Earth can sustain the current population easily - just not with our current death-spiral of capitalism.
It's also one of the core eco-fascist talking points.
Geodad
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in reply to Norah (pup/it/she) • • •Norah (pup/it/she)
in reply to Geodad • • •Geodad
in reply to Norah (pup/it/she) • • •Give me everything you've got!
I drank from a water hose as a kid, and I love to drink straight from the hose of knowledge.
azolus
in reply to Geodad • • •Decent living for all: Can we meet basic needs and save the planet?
Yale Environment ReviewGeodad
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in reply to Geodad • • •RiverRabbits
in reply to Geodad • • •Malthus was a fascist and you're a fascist for repeating his bullshit.
Now back on topic: I'm pretty sure the couple companies that are mostly based on fossil fuels being responsible for around 90% of greenhouse gases are the main contributors to climate change, not meat production, even if it contributes too.
ProdigalFrog
in reply to RiverRabbits • • •RiverRabbits
in reply to ProdigalFrog • • •Someone who is "fairly certain" has done, I assume, their own research. If in the end they discover Malthusianism and found it so fitting that they ascribe to it, they have ascribed to fascist ideology.
I understand where you're coming from, but at some point we have to stop saying that people who have every information at their fingertips(the internet), and a world-vetted source if information (wikipedia) very accessible to them, it becomes a farcical ritual to keep defending them via ignorance, when it is, at best, learned incompetence and at worst full throated Nazi ideology.
in a world of anonymity, I like to judge people by their actions. And repeating fascist ideology makes someone fascist, in my eyes, especially when they double-down after it's pointed out.
Geodad
in reply to RiverRabbits • • •Fascism is a far right ideology.
I'm very far left.
You seem to use "fascist" as an ad hominem fallacy.
RiverRabbits
in reply to Geodad • • •you can claim whatever the shit you want. Doesn't change that you repeat fascist talking points, which makes you a fascist.
I am using fascist as a descriptor, not a repeat of claimed identity.
Geodad
in reply to RiverRabbits • • •You're using it to attempt to discredit my statement.
That's the ad hominem logical fallacy.
If I'm wrong, show me data, and I'll retract my statement.
quick_snail
in reply to Geodad • • •remon
in reply to quick_snail • • •So you're telling me I could live in a world without meat but almost 10 times more people? Why would anyone want that?
I have to buy more steaks.
Geodad
in reply to quick_snail • • •Not_mikey
in reply to solo • • •Damn, as if watching out for Russia bots and Israel bots wasn't enough now we gotta watch out for beef bots.
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in reply to solo • • •bss03
in reply to ValarieLenin • • •I've gotten to 42% vegan, 42% lacto-vegetarian, and 14% omnivore, but I can and should do better.
But, I don't think individual action is the "right" solve for this. I think we have to cap emissions by regulation. We could do cap and trade if will had really good measures for removal and capture, but we can't depend on self-reporting for that.
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in reply to solo • • •bfg9k
in reply to solo • • •Tradies leaving trucks running all day because they aren't paying for the fuel is an emissions source.
Buses idling at stops for tens of minutes at a time is an emissions source.
Target the people that are wilfully wasting resources.
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in reply to bfg9k • • •xep
in reply to solo • • •If you look at the source of the data for emissions it's unclear that it's all from meat production: ourworldindata.org/greenhouse-…
Even if we take at face value that meat accounts for 60% of industrial agriculture emissions, as a proportion of total emissions that is still only 0.6 * 26% = ~16%. It's sizable, but perhaps we should be addressing the elephants in the room, in the "non-food" section, first.
How much of global greenhouse gas emissions come from food?
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in reply to xep • • •xep
in reply to stickly • • •stickly
in reply to xep • • •As wasteful as our AI usage is it still has a function that couldn't be substituted. There's no other tool that could be used for, say, a certain subset of public health analysis or massive archival projects or image analysis.
Granted if we were using it in only those cases we'd need a fraction of the capacity. But the emissions we'd cut are much, much smaller than the savings from the meat industry. Last I checked all US datacenters (not just AI) were less than 3% of emissions. Building and running a computer isn't as disruptive as constantly moving millions of tons of meat + feed + equipment and minutae.
Commercial meat is a luxury because it can be entirely replaced by other calories + nutrients + supplements. And this is just a discussion on emissions but the other benefits of going meatless are just as notable (eg: agriculture is the #1 cause of ecosystem collapse; large public health benefits)
xep
in reply to stickly • • •This is a take I've never heard before, it's not how I think luxury goods are defined, and I'm now genuinely curious as to what you consider a luxury product. Do you think that eating some chicken is the same as wearing a Hermes handbag, or driving a Lamborghini?
This reads to me like it cannot be replaced without supplementation, which seems to be a critical flaw for people who are unable to supplement. I'm also of the opinion that calories are not a useful measure for nutrition, since our bodies are not bomb calorimeters.
stickly
in reply to xep • • •A luxury is something pleasant or enjoyable but not strictly necessary. It's not a matter of how much more enjoyable it is but just that it can be functionally replaced (Lambo -> Toyota Corolla; Designer bag -> any other bag; Meat -> Plant proteins). Unless there's some rare medical condition that prevents eating anything but animal proteins, we have the means to replace it (as a massive commercial industry at the very least).
WRT alternative diets it really depends on what you replace it with. I believe there are technically some entirely vegan diets without supplements but if you're buying your meat from the store you could just as easily buy supplements from the same place and not worry about it.
I went meatless recently and even as an unabashed meat lover it really wasn't that bad. Vegan/vegetarian meat substitutes have advanced a ton in the past few years when I do get the craving, but I don't notice a day-to-day difference. The main annoyances have been limited restaurant menus and rebuilding my recipe catalog.
xep
in reply to stickly • • •I see, so your definition of luxury good is "something that can be functionally replaced." I was thinking of the economic definition.
I don't think meat to be functionally replaceable with plant proteins. Heme-iron alone makes it very difficult to do, since iron from plants is far less bioavailable. What does a vegan diet do for Vitamin B12? Conspicuous consumption is not necessary for survival, but B12 very much is.
Changes from nutrition can take a long time to become manifest. I wish you longevity and good health.
ProdigalFrog
in reply to xep • • •stickly
in reply to xep • • •IIRC there is exactly one variety of lentil that can supply B12, but otherwise it's mass produced via bacteria fermentation. At a certain age, most doctors recommend a daily vitamin supplement anyway so it's really a matter checking a few labels before you pick one to make sure your multivitamin matches your meatless diet.
I appreciate the well wishes, my doctor is already much happier with my visits 😂
thethunderwolf
in reply to xep • • •The problematic nutrients are B12, D and Omega-3.
Food specifically for vegans such as plant milk is usually fortified with B12 and D. Vitamin D can also be gotten by touching grass. Linseed is a good Omega-3 source.
thethunderwolf
in reply to xep • • •To quote my own comment on this post:
quick_snail
in reply to xep • • •TrackinDaKraken
in reply to solo • • •It's strange how that same site, in a different article with the same author, lists a very different number of 18.4% for all Agriculture, of which livestock and manure makes up just 6%:
ourworldindata.org/ghg-emissio…
I suppose the difference depends on how things are defined and categorized.
Sector by sector: where do global greenhouse gas emissions come from?
Hannah Ritchie (Our World in Data)usernamesAreTricky
in reply to TrackinDaKraken • • •That is misunderstanding the graph. That's only counting direct emissions. Feed production is a major source of emissions for animal agriculture
From the article:
Kindness is Punk
in reply to solo • • •Yeah, because for the majority of the public it's a lost cause.
I haven't eaten meat in so long and I sincerely don't miss it but anytime I mention it to my friends it's unconscionable. I wasn't even pitching for them to be a vegetarian, I was pitching for them to eat smaller portions.
I brought up that we should stop subsidizing red meat so heavily so we can subsidize healthier foods, I might as well have been Judas himself.
The meat industry propaganda runs deep.
thethunderwolf
in reply to solo • • •