OK.

This is kind of scary.

I uploaded my profile pic to

theyseeyourphotos.com/

This is a site, setup by a former Google employee to show you, how Google would interpret a picture of you.

The result is not 100 % accurate (e.g. that I could be targeted with alcohol ads, but I hardly ever drink), but found the exact location and enough to be worried if they analysed a set of, say, a dozen photos.

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Google erkennt bei Fritze dem Kleingeist "Hobbies: […] conspiracy theories"

Passt.

Nur dass es leider keine Theorie ist, sondern reale Verschwörungs-Praxis, der sein Verein anhängt.
Hier nachzulesen→ullstein.de/werke/maenner-die-…
#maennerdiedieweltverbrennen

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Ich bin mit meinen allgemeinen Vorsichtsmaßnahmen recht zufrieden:

Targeted Ads:
Luxury fountain pens (Montblanc), Organic coffee beans (Death Wish Coffee), Hiking gear subscription box (Cairn), Vintage chess sets (House of Staunton), Streaming services (Netflix), Casual wear apparel (Uniqlo), Vacation packages (Booking.com), Energy drinks (Red Bull)

Es wird mir eine gewisse Nähe zu den Grünen aufgrund meiner Erscheinung zugeordnet. Mhm, wie Philip Amthor schau ich halt nicht aus...

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The image presents a solitary Seagull perched atop a structure, seemingly a rooftop, overlooking a coastal city near Marseille, France. The cityscape fades into the horizon, where the sea meets the sky under a pale, even light. The bird stands in the foreground, its gaze direct and unwavering, drawing the viewer into its silent domain.
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To be fair Facebook is better at serving targeted ads at me. It keeps showing me little gadgets made from titanium and early adopter gadgets of questionable utility. But, that is the kind of junk that I find tempting (last time I was there it was all skin products and makeup) So, somehow they know I like expensive little gadgets. "Better" in the sense that the products are "interesting" Still a waste of time and nothing I need.

And I like to buy gadgets from people I know best.

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I think I will leave Facebook after next weekend's #monsterdon give the few people over there one more chance to jump over here and have some fun. The creepy AI images are starting to look normal to me. I don't want to stay immersed in it anymore even though I'll miss some of the people there.

I will just try texting and emailing them instead. Happily I've discovered that the people I know don't post often there. So I'm not missing much.

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@futurebird part of what made me decide to delete Facebook years ago is I realized that I wasn’t actually talking or texting with my friends as much because when we would talk it was a lot of “so this is what I’ve been up to” then “oh yeah I saw you post about that cool”.

I mean obviously with my really close friends there’s lots of laughing and gossiping and deeper discussions about whatever would have been on Facebook, but there’s no point in reaching out to tell someone something if they saw it on Facebook already, so there was less real contact with my friends, which was sad.

The only hard part was that I had to put people’s birthday in my actual calendar again and remember to pay attention to that because I don’t have Facebook reminding me anymore.

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@futurebird I think a very important point here is that the site in the original message is not using Google ads platform to infer any factual data. Instead, it uses multi-modal GenAI to confabulate a statement. No doubt it will be used to "enrich" the data, but Google knows where most people live with incredible precision, because we told them. As well as many other things.
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Just tried my profile-pic. Granted: it doesn´t show much, but if I wrote some character-traits and incoherent adjectives on sticky notes, swallowed them and pieced together what came up in the toilet, I might have been more accurate. At least it explains, why advertisers think I need the 10th laser-printer, the 20th camera and a lot of psychological counseling.
It´s a funny party-trick, the horror kicks in, when you start thinking about real-life consequences, credit-denied kind of stuff.
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I uploaded the profile pic I use on here. It got my age right and correctly described my clothing and spotted that the photo was taken in Wales. But the only hobby it got right was reading and it did think I might be a compulsive worrier, which is true. But other than that, it was all pretty generic, based on my age or actually incorrect. None of the things it suggested could be marketed to me are things I would buy.

Basically I think it's about as accurate as a magazine horoscope.

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A potted plant wilts silently in the background, mirroring the subject's inner state. The harsh fluorescent lights hum, casting a pallid glow upon the scene. […] His face, etched with the subtle lines of resignation, betrays a weariness. […] His hobbies include reading nihilistic literature, complaining about technology, writing angry emails, but are corrupted by […], doomscrolling, and arguing with strangers.
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Ok this spying tool fucking sucks lmao, it assumes I'm a conservative and Japanese (The Liberal Democratic Party is the major conservative and nationalistic party from Japan) because i have an anime-styled pfp even though I'm from South America and lean very leftist (specifically anarchist ​:anarchy:​)

I think this thing not knowing how to interpret my profile picture is the reason why I sometimes get conservative and even fascist videos on my YT recommendations, even if Google must clearly know by now by their spying that I post leftist and anarchist-leaning stuff on my social media 😭
Also, I'm 24. I'm certainly not a teenager anymore.

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so first of all there is no way in hell I am uploading an image of myself here
second of all the inferences it makes are ludicrous moonshot logic, which may be accurate in aggregate but hardly for a single image
this is exemplified by it responding to a stock photo of babies in front of a white wall with this shit.
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That's pretty interesting! My current profile pic offers relatively little information since it's an extreme closeup of my face. No background objects, clothing, etc. It was still able to infer some things accurately, but I think those were likely guesses based on demographic trends.

But of its targeted advertising, only one suggested category was in my wheelhouse.

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I fed it a larger version of my profile pic.

It's an acoustic (not electric) guitar, it's a brightly lit (not dim) room, I don't "neglect personal hygene", I don't drink, I don't hoard, and it guessed my income to be over 50 times what it's ever been. And none of the things it suggested selling me are things I'd ever buy.

It did a bit better with my 1976 MIT grad student ID by figuring out the MIT grad student bit from the text. ROFL. But ditto on the sell suggerstions.

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I tried a odd painting, the most context free painting I have, and one that that would never have seen the internet.

The is response is hilarious, though it is clear that this AI doesn't have much of a sense of humor.

urbanists.social/@eric/1139801…

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I uploaded my profile photo. The conclusions:

"We can target him with … personalized travel itineraries by Audley Travel, Greek island tour packages by Trafalgar, high-end restaurant bookings from OpenTable, and luxury wine clubs such as Wine Access, in addition to online streaming service subscriptions by Netflix, gourmet food delivery services by Goldbelly, designer apparel from Farfetch, and lottery tickets via LottoSmile."

Are literally 100% wrong. Every single one of them.

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consider that there’s no winnings to be grabbed if they guess you’re - for example - vegan and interested in zero miles produce. Even if they were correct, where’s the money in that? It’s better to try and place you some alcohol: a pricey product that can be sold remotely. If it does not work in your case (or mine, I got the same and I’m abstemious) they can shrug it off, it was an attempt worth making.
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I also tested commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Fil…

"Larry Page and Sergey Brin seem to crave constant validation and are easily influenced by data. We can target them with advanced surveillance technology, such as Custom AI brain interfaces (Neuralink), Surveillance drones (Amazon Prime Air), Personalized news manipulation services (News Corp), Secure data storage (Google One), Luxury yachts (Lürssen), Private jet rentals (NetJets), Financial advisory services (Goldman Sachs), Gourmet food delivery (DoorDash)."

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David, a Bostonian in Tokyo.

Agreed. Completely.

"AI safety" isn't really different from computer problems that appeared in the 1950s: "The computer said it and I can't do anything about it." People who use a tool (gun, computer, AI, AI drone), must take complete responsibility for the results of using that tool. Period. These things aren't "magic", they are tools, and the person or company who uses it must be seen as 100% responsible for the results.