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I'm so fed up* with articles about the widespread use of LLM chatbots by university students that only interview students who use them intensively and teachers who have no idea how to encourage students to think by themselves.

Aren't there any stories out there of students who refuse to use them because they realize how detrimental to learning this can be (I'm less interested in those who refuse out of ethical/environmental/geopolitical concerns, not that those aren't valid) or of educators who have found how to effectively encourage students to do their own work, because the point is not the final product but the process?

(Yeah, my Introduction to Data Science course is starting in a few weeks and I'm not looking forward to the time we're going to waste on grading projects written by an algorithm.)

* by which I mean, excessively upset and having difficulty sleeping at night. The despair they induce has even been seeping into some of my dreams.

in reply to Chloé Azencott

At Mesa Community College the English composition teacher got all of his students to submit hand written notes on PDFs of articles before turning in their analysis essays based on these notes. I had my Python students submit sketches of their program designs brute building their programs. It worked for some of them, who actually used it to write their programs.
in reply to Hobson Lane

@hobs thanks for the feedback, those are useful ideas on making them think on their own!
in reply to Chloé Azencott

I’m using an older version of photoshop that isn’t subscription based and doesn’t include AI. I’m currently working on a project that involves scrubbing text from a detailed image. It would be quick and easy to use AI for this but I’m learning a lot doing it the hard way.
in reply to Chloé Azencott

@Chloé Azencott
Be me
> there's a bug in the group project for school
> Peter(pseudonym) says he can solve it
> Peter sends code by chatgpt (not saying how he made it)
> code don't work
> repeat last 2 steps a few times
> we have a wee little argument
> i make a point of never using an llm in group projects

Not sure if this is the kind of motivation you were looking for, but i wanted to tell this story

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