From Word and Excel to LibreOffice: Danish ministry says goodbye to Microsoft
From Word and Excel to LibreOffice: Danish ministry says goodbye to Microsoft
All employees at the Danish Ministry of Digital Affairs are to work without Microsoft. Instead, Linux and LibreOffice will be used, says the minister.Martin Holland (heise online)
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Em Adespoton
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in reply to Em Adespoton • • •utopiah
in reply to Em Adespoton • • •Like what?
If Collabora has extra features they do not think they need, relying on the lowest dependencies seems like the most reliable and fair choice.
Em Adespoton
in reply to utopiah • • •LibreOffice is offline; each person can run the software in their own device to create and edit documents.
It’s features are equivalent to 2010 Office. That’s not necessarily bad, but it’s not how people usually work today.
Collabora lets you host documents on a central server and have multiple people edit at once, dynamically tracking changes and allowing full revision management. Or, you can keep your documents local and not host them if you don’t want to.
utopiah
in reply to Em Adespoton • • •Matt
in reply to Em Adespoton • • •navordar
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in reply to navordar • • •Undaunted
in reply to vintageballs • • •vintageballs
in reply to Undaunted • • •I answered in another comment:
feddit.org/comment/7183064
vintageballs
2025-06-12 07:23:28
ClassifiedPancake
in reply to vintageballs • • •vintageballs
in reply to ClassifiedPancake • • •There seem to be conflicting opinions on the matter:
netzpolitik.org/2024/pay-or-ok…
etes.de/blog/pay-or-okay-pur-a…
In any case, the requirements for "pay or okay" being legal are: (translated with deepl)
Equivalent alternative
"In principle, the tracking of user behavior can be based on consent if a tracking-free model is offered as an alternative, even if this is subject to payment. However, the service that users receive in a paid model must firstly represent an equivalent alternative to the service that they obtain through consent. Secondly, the consent must meet all the conditions for effectiveness set out in the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), i.e. in particular the requirements listed in Art. 4 No. 11 and Art. 7 GDPR. Whether the payment option - e.g. a monthly subscription - is to be regarded as an equivalent alternative to consent to tracking depends in particular on whether users are given equivalent access to the same service in return for a standard market fee. Equivalent access generally exists if the offers include the same service, at least in principle."
Data processing for ad-free use
If a user opts for the subscription option, only storage and readout processes that are technically absolutely necessary may take place (Section 25 (1) TTDSG). Furthermore, the permissions under Art. 6 para. 1 GDPR must be complied with.
Granularity/prohibition of general consent for non-subscribers
"If there are several processing purposes that differ significantly from one another, the requirements for voluntariness must be met to the effect that consent can be granted on a granular basis. This means, among other things, that users must be able to actively select the individual purposes for which consent is to be obtained (opt-in). Only if purposes are very closely related can a bundling of purposes be considered. A blanket overall consent for different purposes in this respect cannot be effectively granted."
Transparency, comprehensibility and information
In addition, the consents must meet the other requirements of the GDPR. This applies in particular to the principle of transparency, comprehensibility and compliance with information obligations.
As I see it, at the very least the granularity requirement is not fulfilled in these cases.
„Pay or Okay“ – Pur-Abo-Modell zulässig?
Chantal Nußbaum (ETES GmbH)utopiah
in reply to fattyfoods • • •"We won't get any closer to the goal if we don't start."
such a great line, yes, just take a step! Even if it's hard, you will learn something but if you don't try, you won't.
themurphy
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in reply to fattyfoods • • •Hopefully this also means monetary investment in open source, not just open source usage without a support contract or contributing back. Matrix is a great example of an open source project that is being used by governments but struggling to get paid because governments are employing their own support staff and making internal forks.
But the more governments, agencies and individuals switch, there greater the chance they'll pay the developers and maintainers for support or features.
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