If You're Still Supporting Israel In 2025, There's Something Wrong With You As A Person
by Caitlin Johnstone
Jul 18, 2025
It’s 2025. Israeli soldiers are telling the Israeli press that they’re being ordered to massacre starving civilians trying to obtain food from aid centers. Countless doctors have been telling the world that Israeli snipers are routinely, deliberately shooting children in the head and chest throughout the Gaza Strip. Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and all the leading genocide experts and human rights authorities are saying that a genocide is being perpetrated in Gaza. The New York fucking Times just published an op-ed by a Zionist genocide scholar who’s finally admitting that it’s a genocide.There’s no way to deny what this is anymore. If you still support Israel in the year 2025, it’s not because you don’t believe Israel is committing horrific atrocities. It’s because you believe those horrific atrocities are good, and you want to see more of them.
If You're Still Supporting Israel In 2025, There's Something Wrong With You As A Person
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geneva_convenience
in reply to Peter Link • • •godlessworm [comrade/them]
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •imo i wouldnt say it’s about popularity and more about israel just being unable to really hide what they’re doing anymore. now its at the point where your average apolitical normie is seeing babies get their limbs blown off on their tiktok feed.
they had a lot more plausible deniability before their genocide was being live streamed.
as long as leftists have known about how fucked up israel is, your average truly “apolitical” person only knew the israel propaganda painted about it. now they see thats not true and thats a good thing
geneva_convenience
in reply to godlessworm [comrade/them] • • •'Normies' have been seeing babies limbs getting blown off since 2023. They simply chose to ignore it because the public sentiment opposed it. The average person is a literal NPC who will repeat whatever the media tells them even if the video footage gets shoved in front of their eyes. I've tried it.
Even now, if you ask them if Israel has a right to exist they will answer yes. Knowing that Israel is comparable with Nazi Germany. They would tell you that Nazi Germany has a right to exist if that is what the media told them.
godlessworm [comrade/them]
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •i think that’s pretty pessimistic towards your average person
with how alienated capitalism keeps us all from our peers, its easy to forget that you and i are also just average people.
we’re half way into 2025. gaza videos didnt really become widespread in people’s feed til about a year ago. thats when apolitical people would have started seeing this so much. the amount of turn around in just that small period of time is a good thing and being pessimistic about it or writing people off as lemmings because they were tricked by propaganda designed specifically to trick people specifically like them isn’t helping anyone. that’s just you projecting your resentment towards people, and im not saying that as an insult. its easy to resent them. dont let your resent control you tho.
geneva_convenience
in reply to godlessworm [comrade/them] • • •godlessworm [comrade/them]
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •its really not as simple as that lol. you’re letting your disdain towards people personally steer your point of view.
your average person had no idea this was happening until recently and once they saw it they said it was bad.
its extremely easy to fall into your line of thinking when you don’t interact with your community and view yourself as an individual against other individuals. thats the framing capitalism has given you but its a false framing.
i can tell you for a fact; i live in a small town in georgia. 3 years ago nobody here knew shit about israel or palestinine. went to two protests in the last two months, both FULL of support for palestine. people who have passively said positive things about israel to me who didnt know better have now said they had no idea what was happening over there. that they literally didnt even know what “gaza was” until recently
sadly thats where your average person is at.
they are not as “genocide is good”.
they’re at “i heard israel was good”. sadly thats more affective than it should be.
but to just write everybody off as wrong and having these horrible opinions is just anti leftwing tbh. you will never create any sort of left wing anything if this is how you view your fellow worker. not everybody is a leftist and in fact most people think we’re fucking crazy, for the same reason they used to think israel is good. “trusted sources” on tv told them so.
geneva_convenience
in reply to godlessworm [comrade/them] • • •It is that simple. If you want a threat full of Nazi sympathizers from yesterday you are welcome to check this out lemmy.ml/post/33323757
geneva_convenience
2025-07-18 09:35:59
Horse {they/them}
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to Horse {they/them} • • •Average person is going to have a worse opinion. These people know Israel is committing genocide and still support politicians being complicit in it.
Evidence number 2: lemmy.ml/post/33383344
geneva_convenience
2025-07-19 16:11:12
godlessworm [comrade/them]
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to godlessworm [comrade/them] • • •☂️-
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •geneva_convenience
in reply to ☂️- • • •Observe Nazis on Lemmy: lemmy.ml/post/33383344
geneva_convenience
2025-07-19 16:11:12
HugeNerd
in reply to geneva_convenience • • •The what now?
geneva_convenience
in reply to HugeNerd • • •The Overton window describes the range of ideas and policies considered acceptable by the mainstream population at a given time.
Basically "things you are allowed to say without people thinking you are weird."