BIG NEWS: Pawoo.net, the world's 2nd biggest Mastodon instance, has just been acquired.
The entity acquiring them is the Mask Group, a business that also runs mstdn.jp and mastodon.cloud. They are also active in the so-called "Web 3.0" space.
If you haven't heard of pawoo.net, it's because many instances have de-federated from it.
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in reply to Michael Gisiger • • •GaggiX
in reply to @pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote • • •Ewan Donnachie
in reply to GaggiX • • •It's strange that the report doesn't even mention that it's defederated by many instances for sharing paedophilic content. Seems like a bizarre purchasing decision too.
GaggiX
in reply to Ewan Donnachie • • •Ewan Donnachie
in reply to GaggiX • • •It's not about whether we like such content or not. If the content is illegal where the instance is operating, moderators have an obligation to block it as far as possible.
GaggiX
in reply to Ewan Donnachie • • •Ewan Donnachie
in reply to GaggiX • • •What is the reason, if not that?
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in reply to @pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote • • •Chris Trottier
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Like it or not, it should no longer be assumed that "volunteers" are running your instances.
The Mask Group, which now runs three large instances "has raised over US$50 million from private and institutional backers"—their words not mine.
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •What is the perceived revenue stream that justifies such an investment?
prnewswire.com/news-releases/m…
Mask Network Acquires Pawoo.net, one of the largest Mastodon instances
www.prnewswire.comChris Trottier
in reply to iamBullivant • • •Darnell Clayton
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@bullivant They may try to copy what Truth Social is doing & insert ads within people’s timelines.
Even though there are corporate-owned instances, it is particularly jarring that a corporate overlord assimilates instances now.
But I think we will see more of this for one reason: Twitter is dying, so companies are trying to “buy the next Twitter” instead of building one.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Darnell Clayton • • •Darnell Clayton
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@bullivant I agree. We might see corporations target #Pixelfed instances next.
Also, #Mastodon admins are going to receive lucrative offers soon, & some might sell if they are unable to pay operational costs for their servers.
It will become critical for members to support their local servers.
Geoff
in reply to Darnell Clayton • • •@darnell @bullivant I worry a bit about the 'inserting adverts'. It's pretty easy to insert adverts into someone's timeline when you're running the server they use, and maybe that's a fair enough trade off for those users. (I'd hate it.)
But we've seen stupid decisions before, and if they're running the server it'd be a small conceptual step for them to insert adverts into remote users timelines by boosting the adverts on behalf of their users. And that'd be nasty.
John Conway
in reply to Geoff • • •@OpinionatedGeek @darnell @bullivant
Putting ads into the federation would get them de-feded in a lot of places. Silenced in nearly all, probably.
I actually don't have much of a problem with ad supported instances (beyond my usual problem with ad tech on the web). It's probably inevitable, if we're honest. Where are the tens (hundreds?) of millions going to come from if the Fediverse really takes off?
Volunteers? Can't scale that big. Patreon? Maaaybe.
John Conway
in reply to John Conway • • •Darnell Clayton
in reply to John Conway • • •@john @OpinionatedGeek @bullivant Some instances already do this.
@aurynn & @JohanEmpa charge their members for access which is wise in my honest opinion.
Darnell Clayton
in reply to John Conway • • •John Conway
in reply to Darnell Clayton • • •@darnell @OpinionatedGeek @bullivant
Oh yeah, me too, and I'm glad I don't have to have them on Mastodon.
But realistically, most people just don't seem to mind the tradeoff. Pragmatically, I think we should prevent the excesses of the ad-tech industry with legislation, rather than try to prevent all ads.
Kyle
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@bullivant But isn’t the point of grabbing land ultimately to secure the revenue it will yield?
What is the pathway to profitability here?
azteclady
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Those who control information, control the population. They may or may not insert ads, but we've just seen what happens when someone whose only interest is profit and power owns social media, who they let in and what they allow/don't allow to exist and prosper in 'their' social media platform.
@bullivant
13 barn owls in a trenchcoat
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •this is all moving very quickly now.
It's not entirely encouraging given .cloud's very light moderation.
Chris Trottier
in reply to 13 barn owls in a trenchcoat • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •There's going to be a massive land grab of all these big instances. There will be lots of merging and acquiring too.
My advice is that you all become *very* aware of who owns your instance and why.
Get to know your admins—make sure their values align with your own.
If you don't want to put your social media life in the hands of strangers, then self-host your own instance.
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Marc Véron
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Marc Véron • • •@mveron Caveat: if they're a non-profit or a volunteer.
Give no donations to instances run by for-profits.
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@byte @mveron
I guess Vivaldi is because it's available as part of the subscription so it could well be a loss leader feature. I don't see a financial relationship with mastodon.cloud or its owners, I've no idea about twit.
Would you say the same about masto.host or any other instance hosting company?
Jono Ferguson
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Steve
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I imagine that as Mastodon now is in the spotlight as a potential Twitter replacement, certain entities will see an opportunity to carve out power, profit, and influence by acquiring instances and centralising power.
#mastodon #socialmedia #technology
Chris Trottier
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •To everyone using mastodon.cloud and mstdn.jp: remember, you're not locked into those instances.
If you want, you can migrate elsewhere.
This is not Twitter—you have a choice regarding where your home will be on the Fediverse.
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Chris Trottier
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •A warning: there's going to be a concerted effort to re-centralize the Fediverse.
As we've just seen with the acquisition of pawoo.net, that's already happening.
What are you going to do to thwart this trend?
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Michael Gisiger
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Michael Gisiger • • •Caleb Faruki
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •if you want people to care, you have to make it easy for them to discover.
My favorite idea is forming consortia of Mastodon admins with similar values to actively de-federate bad instances.
John Mark Ockerbloom
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •James
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Mazal
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@gisiger
also Chris is doing is promoting situational awareness—which is key.
#fediverse #bigsocial
Rob Pickering
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I do see a model like SMTP e-mail becoming a thing where technically anyone can federate, but it becomes increasingly hard for non well-resourced players to provide the necessary abuse management to play effectively.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Rob Pickering • • •The instances that have gone bad have lasted for a very long time.
Technology does not replace human moderation.
Rob Pickering
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Rob Pickering • • •@rob With all do respect, the Musk problem can not only happen on Mastodon, it has happened.
You might want to look into a few more instances.
benx
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Bob Mottram ✅
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I don't think they will be able to re-centralize me, because I am a self-hosted holdout and remaining independent from BigTech BS was always my goal.
The main thing to watch out for is not some big instance but what happens to the protocol. The re-centralizers will try to manoevre such that they control the protocol, both through standards organizations and as a defacto implementation. So be very resistant to any protocol changes which create dependence on a single server or a single company. They will always claim that the company is benevolent and the people initially in charge will always be friendly individuals with good intentions who then later get replaced.
fenarinarsa
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •If they could buy those instances, that's also because they were for sale.
Migration is gonna be difficult for Japanese users. Who's going to run a new Japanese instance that could welcome ~1.2 million users? (if there's really 1.2m active users, Pawoo kind of cheated on this)
Also they all run on an obsolete version of Mastodon (namely 3.3 or 3.4) so no automatic migration.
Pawoo is even a fork that was heavily patched at a time were a lot of features weren't available. They were #1 in creating new features when they were owned by Pixiv.
Felix H
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •WowSuchCyber
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tobias Horvath
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Tobias Horvath • • •Tobias Horvath
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •As you've posted, big money is coming in, acquiring instances already. But I think there's also going to be smaller players, funded organizations with boards instead of anonymous admins that promise a culture that people can subscribe to. Made sustainable by people paying for a service—just a small amount.
Just like with email where Gmail dominates, but it doesn't bother me too much. There's a healthy ecosystem for email out there for people who care and support smaller companies.
Tobias Horvath
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •haxploited 🇺🇦
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@tobyx we should find ways to monetize them like miners. Otherways they will eat us. There are no financial incentives to run own instance and now there is one - I potentially could be bouth by big fish.
without some kind of money it's a voluntary lose deal.
And why they should do it for free? Don't they deserve salary? Why they should work another job, aren't they instance valuable?
Or we want them to work for some corporation and managing instance on work-free hours?
sbi
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •char
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I agree with your proposition.
I guess that one of the key points is how to bring to the non techie people a way to self-hosting and admin their own instance in a easy/no-pain way.
Leigh Garland
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I don't have answers, but I'm not convinced "just host your own" is the solution.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Leigh Garland • • •@toychicken @tobyx Right now, self-hosting has a big barrier to entry. But the future can change, and we should work towards that better future.
Either way, self-hosting should be encouraged. If you have the knowledge and means, do it!
Leigh Garland
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Leigh Garland • • •Leigh Garland
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I appreciate this discussion though, thank you.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Leigh Garland • • •Steve🏳️🌈
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Steve🏳️🌈 • • •@gaysteve @tobyx There is no such thing as an "average user" -- just individuals with specific pains that need alleviating.
Ostensibly, the specific pain that many are feeling right now is the monopolization of social media.
How do we alleviate this?
Steve🏳️🌈
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Futurist Jim Carroll
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@tobyx
"The notion of self-hosting and administrating your own instance should be normalized. We should embrace small."
I'm a trendsetter! (-;
Dave Winer ☕️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •— I looked for news of pawoo—
coindesk.com/business/2022/12/…
Encrypted Messaging Protocol Mask Network Acquires Mastodon Server Pawoo.net
Oliver Knight (CoinDesk)Chris Trottier
in reply to Dave Winer ☕️ • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Everyone needs to be aware that Mask Group trades a crypto token.
This same entity now owns pawoo.net, mstdn.jo, and mastodon.cloud.
coindesk.com/business/2022/12/…
Encrypted Messaging Protocol Mask Network Acquires Mastodon Server Pawoo.net
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •they seem to have quite a few things going on around so-called Web 3.0:-
we.mask.io/t/building-the-brid…
Building the bridge to Web3.0: Introducing the Mask Network Ecosystem Map
Mask Network ForumCảm ơn
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •PTEC3D
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Eddie Roosenmaallen
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Oh, gross, and they want to get crypto all over our Fediverse.
> The Pawoo acquisition marks another milestone of the Mask team towards the building of a decentralized social network and a free, open internet
A “free, open internet” of crypto bros. Sounds like a quick refreshing skinny dip in a sewage lagoon.
Simon
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •(((Pro-choice Morgana)))
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Geoff Winkless
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Travis
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Sigh.
This mean I should move off dot cloud?
Bret Mogilefsky
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Jonah Stein
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Yes, but... I do not know the vocabulary has caught up to the nuances. Pawoo.net has been defederated by many of the most popular Mastodon instances because it is the home of lots of Manga that depicts CSAM.
I won't dive into that debate BUT it is important to differentiate federated and defederated instances and/or looking at this as building an alternative federation. If nothing else, some active daily user counts do not count Pawoo.
Seanmclem
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •stux⚡
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Just checked their site and it's all about web3 bullshit
Not something most of the Fediverse is interested in
stux⚡
in reply to stux⚡ • • •This does make sense though 📉
coindesk.com/price/mask-networ…
Mask Network
www.coindesk.comsub_o
in reply to stux⚡ • • •@stux The admin is/was Suji Yan / Sujitech LLC (sujitech.com) who is a chinese crypto bro residing in Japan
That instance was unmoderated for a long time. That admin was really into crypto, so I assume they have been engaging in pumping and dumping scheme?
Sujitech
sujitech.comJamie McCarthy
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Toni Aittoniemi
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •theoretically, I could see an economic model where if the instance was running off a token, owners of that token would be incentivised to keep the service good because more people would come in, them buying more tokens would make the value of their investment rise.
However, greed always does get the best of people, so also a lot of people would get scammed.
If done properly, markets can be amazing too. We’ll see how many fiascos it takes to get it right though. 🙂
Maverynthia🌱
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Jono Ferguson
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I do wonder if it is either them trying to fedi-wash their crypto or move sideways into something less of a burning tyre fire or possibly both?
"Look look, we are cool and part of the fed, no that nasty crypto bullshit"
Similar to Shell/BP with solar and wind.
Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •is re-centralising any different to some of the *giant* instances. I'm a big believer in it being a federation of planets, some will be bigger some will be smaller, and that works.
It is definitely an interesting journey ahead however it pans out, but ultimately users have *choice* and that's a good thing.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽 • • •Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽
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in reply to Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽 • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽 • • •Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •KriPfeifer
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in reply to KriPfeifer • • •KriPfeifer
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Eniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place)
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in reply to Eniko (moved ➡ gamedev.place) • • •Joe Gaffey
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •internet relay cat
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Oblomov
in reply to internet relay cat • • •brunospy
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Embrace. Extend. Extinguish.
PeterP
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Marcel 🛡 ♻ ✨
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Anthony at Willow House Prints
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Maddler
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Or we'll be int he very same situation we've seen in the past with email (as a random example).
Vincent 🌻🇪🇺
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tsugu
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Reverend Blair
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •wreet
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Just Matthew 🙏
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Lovely contradiction in the Yahoo article:
"The Pawoo acquisition marks another milestone of the Mask team towards the building of a decentralized social network and a free, open internet."
A diverse #fediverse will be a healthy robust one.
Zate 🦘🇦🇺
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Futurist Jim Carroll
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •That's like someone telling me, after my Globe and Mail column in 1999 said Linux was going to be massive, that 'someone will just up buying Linux.'
They didn't fundamentally understand what it was.
We'll have RedHat's here, we'll have Canonical's, we'll have companies which will do a for-profit thing to onboard people, just as ISPs emerged.
But it sure as heck won't be re-centralized....
IMHO.
(-;
Susul 🏳️⚧️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Interpipes 💙
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Don Juan Mastodon
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Matt Wilcox
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Protecting Open Ecosystems such as Mastodon from Centralisation
2023.mattwilcox.netReilly Chase
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •John :verified: :crown:
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Jeremy
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •1337 $#!+ I did that
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Susan :potion_lesbian:
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Ellie
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •愛知
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to 愛知 • • •Jc Miñarro
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Neurodivergent BC
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Brian Hawthorne
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •B. A. Balackus
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •JohnW
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •jeSuisatire …ᘛ⁐̤ᕐᐷ
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •> What are you going to do to thwart this trend?
that's an easy answer:
zbecker
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I never understood why, unless someone makes a compatible #fork of #mastodon that allows for #advertisements.
I decided to #sefhost for fun and for control over my data.
ChofuAlum
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Even as far as attempting to disparage the term "woke".
But it is definitely time for people to be wide awake.
Hate to keep saying it, but,
Resistance is not futile. Resistance is voltage (power) divided by current (direction). And there is power in numbers.
Humbird0 Fandom
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I have 3 mastodon accounts on three different instances, so I can post about very different things, depending on the content rules of each one.
I guess that was accidentally a good idea.
Steffen Christensen
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •A decentralized network is toxic to power and control.
A successful decentralized network, even more so.
Liz Ellis She/Her🌳
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Scott 🏴😷
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Stephan Neuhaus
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •And this may well be what saves Mastodon. That's not to say that people shouldn't watch closely what happens on their instance --- they should. But if your instance starts doing things you don't like, you can always move instances and keep your followers.
(I know you said this already, but in my discussions with people from "the other place", it's a common concern, so in my opinion it's worth repeating.)
Ryan Li
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Moving or leaving accounts
docs.joinmastodon.orgMatt D Kerr
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •marktaylor
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •JP
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Support Post Migration · Issue #12423 · mastodon/mastodon
GitHubIvor Hewitt
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •emilia
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Solar 🌄Garden
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Anthony Piscitelli
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •frater mus
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •> you're not locked into those instances. If you want, you can migrate elsewhere.
Dystopian thought: how long before a commercial entity stops their instance from cooperating with migration requests?
Joe Schmitt
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Leon Cowle
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •sub_o
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I think I reported or at least complained about mastodon.cloud months before.
The admin, Suji Yan, Sujitech LLC, a chinese who resides in Japan, is a staunch crypto bro (sujitech.com)
mastodon.cloud has been unmoderated for a long time, because the admin was too busy with crypto stuff. And other users have complained about it.
Sujitech
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Marcel Bischoff
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Marcel Bischoff • • •Marcel Bischoff
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Marcel Bischoff • • •@hrbf There's no doubt this takes energy and work. It might not be a solution for everyone, but if you have means and technical know-how, it's worth doing.
Making it easier for everyone is also a worthwhile endeavour.
Marcel Bischoff
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Rupert Cocke
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Le Monolecte 😷🤬🐧
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •🇫🇷 : Il va y avoir une accaparement massif des terres de toutes ces grandes instances. Il y aura aussi beaucoup de fusions et d'acquisitions.
Mon conseil est que vous deveniez tous * très * conscients de qui possède votre instance et pourquoi.
Apprenez à connaître vos administrateurs et assurez-vous que leurs valeurs correspondent aux vôtres.
Si vous ne voulez pas mettre votre vie sur les réseaux sociaux entre les mains d'inconnus, alors auto-hébergez votre propre instance.
Astra Kernel
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Pontificator.OMF
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Indeed... I run into "ET" beings occasionally, and research Xenopsychology and associated PSI abilities. It's hardcore woo on my instance, and we all try to remain anonymous for quite obvious reasons.
I mean, with all the above being the case, I think anyone joining knows exactly what kind of thing they're trying to get into ;)
PoeticLicenseDK
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •/potts/kevin
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to /potts/kevin • • •@kevinpotts I wouldn't go that far. Services like Cloudron make running your own instance super easy.
But sure not everyone can do it. If you have the means, do it.
/potts/kevin
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Collin Beyer
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Harold Asmis
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Anthony at Willow House Prints
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Jörg Preisendörfer
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Even better yet, form #Association|s and #PlatformCooperative|s to run #Fediverse instances, and setup instances at already existing associations and #cooperative|s.
When establishing a #coop in #Europe, prefer the form of a #EuropeanCooperative (#SCE), and avoid to make your #headquarters in #FRG, because its #CooperativeLaw still contains inhibiting #Nazi regulations from #Y1934.
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🏷️ #Genossenschaft #ICA #InternationalCooperativeAlliance #Introduction #CooperativeEconomics
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Josh Davis
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Niku 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •fleet.linuxserver.io/image?nam…
maegul
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Mirre
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Joseph Ottinger
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •"Your social media life in the hands of strangers" is exactly why Mastodon is no better than Twitter for most users. If you're on a "big instance" you're just running an expensive (for the site owners) blog where someone else holds the rope around your neck, just like you had with Twitter.
Want to experience the real freedom? Set up your own host. Run your own instance. Own your own data and communications and filters.
Richard Hull
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Kerry Maxwell
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Gojira1000
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Oregon Wine Woman
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •If you do, please enlighten the less knowledgeable among us.
Brian Lawson
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •The Curse of La Mikey McFilms
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Douglas Hunter
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tyler Smith
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I'm very happy to be on an instance run by real people I could eventually meet, and populated by ~100 people in my home town. That's worth a few bucks when it comes time to pay some bills.
The user experience has some rough spots, but knowing I'm not being actively manipulated into doom-scrolling is wonderful
Thom Denholm
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Read through this *long* thread but didn't see the answer - how does one find the admins, etc.?
I initially chose awscommunity.social because it aligns with professional work.
WorthNoting
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Alberto Berretti
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Erica
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Lynn Keller
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Dataclysm
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Bobostradamus
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Claudius (legacy account)
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •"...then self host" is really not possible for over 95% of all people everywhere. We can't expect everyone to just look at social media and be like "i'm gonna make all of this my problem".
If we say "you should self-host" we're basically saying "this is for nerds only". And I refuse to accept that.
Mike Wren
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •"If you don't want to put your social media life in the hands of strangers, then self-host your own instance."
Welp, that's what I was afraid of. 😒
Idealistic Pragmatist
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •FrogyUK
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chad Kirby
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Hmmm… does anyone know of a turn-key solution for creating an instance? I'm not sure what the pro/con analysis for that looks like, but it sounds healthy to give "normies" an easy path to owning their own instance.
Calamity Caitlin
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Futurist Jim Carroll
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •... and here's my little story of my self-host, because I'm in charge.
I answer to no one.
Well, except my wife. But she doesn't 'nix, so the server is all mine. She doesn't even get to have su.
jimcarroll.substack.com/p/crea…
Paul
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •mstdn.gamercast.net is not for sale. 😊
End of.
Mastodon Gaming - Gamercast.net
Mastodon hosted on gamercast.netFarbs
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Farbs • • •@Farbs In this case, most instances have de-federated with that large instance.
It remains to be seen whether they will follow suit with mstdn.jp or mastodon.cloud.
Christopher Walker
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •WTF
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Phil Robertson
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Sunny Willow 🌞
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •HistoPol (#HP) 🏴 🇺🇸 🏴
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@karenyin
Chris Trottier
in reply to Blort™ 🐀Ⓥ🥋☣️ • • •Stephen Baker
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •From what I read, hosting is the easy part. The hard part is coming up with a domain name.
AndrewF
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@atomicpoet The population of people who can (or should) be running their own server software (web server, Mastodon instance, Discord server, anything) is a *tiny* fraction of the world. Most people do not have the equipment, the skills, the time or the security awareness.
(TBH, ‘getting to know my server’s admins’ is not high up on my list of life priorities either…)
Penguin
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Frederik Vanroose 🤗
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Pinky Floyd
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Keiþ 🔭
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Which disturbingly means they need a plan to make money back. Although it seems to me Twitter had very little idea when it was originally financed.
Personally I’d prefer to pay a small contribution for my instance to continue, and hopefully with enough people doing it they can afford service costs and personal. Adverts are abhorrent as targeting is usually by personal data mining. Subscriptions set up a pay wall & reduce adoption.
I like being a person not product
Blank
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Polychrome
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Polychrome • • •MistercazEEK94
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •David de Groot
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Ah, pawoo.net - a large but widely defederated instance due to poor moderation and questionable content. Also mstdn.jp and mastodon.cloud.
yahoo.com/now/mask-network-acq…
Apparently they also developed the "official" app (which roundly sucks) and seem to be Web 3.0™ proponents. None of which bodes well.
Yahooist Teil der Yahoo Markenfamilie
www.yahoo.comIlya אש Ash
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •John Mierau, Serving Worlds
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Web3 and VC bro's are coming for your instance:
"Mask has obtained tens of thousands of users and has raised over US$50 million from private and institutional backers. To further its vision of building the Web3 social network ecosystem, Mask announced the launch of a US$42 million Bonfire Union fund in July 2022 to strategically invest in decentralized social network, infrastructure, and creative contents."
prnewswire.com/news-releases/m…
Mask Network Acquires Pawoo.net, one of the largest Mastodon instances
www.prnewswire.comkit
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •GeoffSteambuff 💛💙
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Quokka 🇦🇺
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Brian R. Sala 🍻
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •prnewswire.com/news-releases/m…
Mask Network Acquires Pawoo.net, one of the largest Mastodon instances
www.prnewswire.comShari Emerson
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Matir
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Bathsheba Blue
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •And more instances are being started all the time. The whole journa instance is being run by Adam Davidson is only a couple of months old.
Masked Scheduler
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Owen
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Godwin :masto_verify:
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Chris Godwin :masto_verify: • • •Chris Godwin :masto_verify:
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Michael
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Jiří Fiala Total Landscaping
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Coinalyze
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Coinalyze • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •@Lowena mastodon.social is under the direct aegis of Mastodon, which is a non-profit, and is run by @Gargron.
This is one reason I continue to use this instance.
Jonas Nordlund
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Arch
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •mrpieceofwork
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •nikkiana
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Oh wow... But also.... not surprised that acquisitions will likely happen some of the bigger instances. I maybe didn't expect to see it quite so soon....
With this news it also occurs to me that I don't know much about what Mastodon's history has been in the non-English speaking parts of the world....
I feel like thus far when I've run across instances and users that are not English, they are usually German.
Are there clusters of Mastodon (or other Fediverse) instances that are more isolated based on factors like language?
Børge
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •73 million seconds
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Anteron
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Oliver Gassner
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Oliver Gassner • • •Oliver Gassner
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •That of course might already be objectionable.
Oliver Gassner
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Now if the Ads are posts you HAVE to subscribe to they would propagate through all of the fediverse. Good reason to block
,
alainochoa
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to alainochoa • • •haxploited 🇺🇦
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •somebody sooner ol later will utilize web3 to monetize instance (it's not free, because computers aren't free and electricity is not free). And better that way than PayPal way.
I would love to have Metamask login by the way, passwords sucks.
Retsen Tanuki
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Retsen Tanuki • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •prsn
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •This isn't only like early Twitter.
This is better.
NomadicNerd (StoleUrSweetroll)
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Love Zhaoying
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Love Zhaoying • • •Love Zhaoying
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Jared 🇦🇺🏳️🌈⚧️👽
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •@victoriadecapua Okay, but why are you here on Mastodon? Why not hang out on Twitter instead? And if you don't like Twitter, why not Post or Hive or Tribel?
You have lots of choice, but you're here.
Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •David Robb
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier reshared this.
Luna
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •@victoriadecapua So you don't like Elon. I don't like him either. Thing is, Elon can't buy Mastodon.
You know why? Because Mastodon is de-centralized.
Now certain entities will try to re-centralize social media. If we build a culture that values resistance to another wannabe Musk, then that means decentralizing social media.
That's all I have to say. Have a wonderful night.
Willie
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Dang, that's spooky.
I wonder what the admin of my instance is like... Hopefully they're nice.
Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Lesley Lai
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Steph
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •@mensrea @gisiger Mastodon is a non-profit. The W3C, which standardized ActivityPub, is also a non-profit. The Mozilla Foundation, which just announced they will be investing in the Fediverse, is also a non-profit.
There's also several ethical for-profit entities building out the Fediverse.
Sqaaakoi
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Francis ☑️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Nixie
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Michael Gisiger
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Dick Smiths Fair Go Supporters
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Its not just the domain name of the instance itself that we need to be mindful of but also the #CDN that the server is using for images. Many instances use a seperate CDN.
The instance we are on uses what we understand to be a popular one by #BunnyCDN, namely cdn.masto.host.
As a secondary concern such CDN appears to block #Tor. We are again unable to post images again. (@witchescauldron)
1/2
#blocksTor #unethicalConduct @mensrea @gisiger
redthunder
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I suppose this meens Pawoo.net is dead.... I'm sick of this Internet Wankiness
#InternetWankiness #pawoo
Simon Brooke
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •do we know why pawoo.net is widely shunned?
And, if it's widely shunned, is its sale a matter of concern?
Oliver Schönrock
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Why did "many instances de-federate from [pawoo.net]"?
Didn't like the moderation policies, their business model ?
Sensational Gus
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Man, I miss Pawoo when it was owned by Pixiv.
It was mainly targeted for artist, now not so much...
SergeEU
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I wish @Gargron (mastodon.social) blocked pawoo.net instance as soon as possible.
Advertising instances have to be defederated as soon as possible such as [un]Truth Social.
They directly attemp to the #Fediverse founding principles and source code license of #Mastodon.
Neal Romanek
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Neal Romanek • • •Neal Romanek
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Daniël Franke 🏳️🌈
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tenkoman
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Vincent 🌻🇪🇺
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Jakob Voß
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •hicksy2
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Yosa Beam ✅🌈🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Rich Puchalsky
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •haxploited 🇺🇦
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •that web3 thing we should implement
1. Metamask login is beautiful
2. We should do the ICO and monetize the platform like Twitter and Facebook does, but keeping decentralization.
3. We should treat instance admins as miners. That way admins can retire from other jobs and focus on instance. Also this would return electricity bills, hardware.
Steve
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Has it been defederated by lots of instances for sloppy moderation, or purely for being run by big business?
The former is a good reason, but I think the latter would be unfortunate.
Gert V 🇵🇸
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Liam Lemon
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Why did so many instances defederate from that instance?
cantstopthesignal
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •RC 🌳
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Jonathan D. Abolins
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Dr. Juande Santander-Vela
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •and this is, kids, why federation and open protocols matters. Those users can change outside of Pawoo.net easily… if they so desire, of course.
Also why medium-sized instances are probably the best place to be…
Basti 🇩🇪🇪🇺
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •https://gigatexal.blog -he/him
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •BenB
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Thom
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Allen Brunson
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Audun
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •robert_said_what
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Big Worker
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Dr. D. Elisabeth Glassco
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Sumocat 🐈⬛
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Social Coop Limited was likely formed by Mask Network specifically to make this purchase. Basically, it only exists to own pawoo.net. I would also point out this is a press release, their announcement of the purchase, not a news story.
Dario
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Sebastian Raschka
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Isaac LeFever
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tushar Chauhan
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Riley S. Faelan
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@atomicpoet: Given the situation, are you sure sure it wasn't the Musk Group?
One can't be too careful these days.
Baessito ☭🇧🇷🇺🇳🇵🇸
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •bnotwen
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •> The Pawoo acquisition marks another milestone of the Mask team towards the building of a decentralized social network and a free, open internet.
Not sure how consolidating the top instances leads to decentralizing but ok.
joene 🏴🍉
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Michael Cervieri
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •running and maintaining servers can get pricey and someone needs to foot the bill(s). i don't know pawoo from a hole in the wall but you're right when you say we really need to know our admins and move elsewhere if we don't like what we find.
Zagreb
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Michael Gartenberg
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •teddy 🏳️🌈
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •fd0
Unknown parent • • •the Microsoft way
Eirliani A Rahman
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Ugh, not great news. Thank you for sharing this, Chris.
Why have many instances de-federated from pawoo.net?
David Lewis
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •the love of money...as the saying goes
*sigh*
piebob ✨
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •no one seemed to be reviewing any of my reports, so i changed instances.
Kerry Maxwell
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Stop That
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Simon Garnier
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •noodle
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Bonus points if my 50yo parents can use that list.
Dave
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@gabriel_berardi
And Mastodon for $6/mo.
The initial downside of your own instance: Your federated timeline would coincide with your home timeline and your local timeline will coincide with what you post yourself. You can increase the volume of the federated timeline by connecting to a relay (multiple instances are feeding relays) or by using a followbot (not everyone likes those, though). You can increase your own visibility only by getting people to follow you.
kgoldsholl
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Shoq
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Shoq • • •Shoq
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Shoq • • •Brian Transplant
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Sunny Willow 🌞
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •If people don't want their instances being taken over they need to be supporting their Admins and the cost of running those instances! How many people are using Mastodon for free? I'm broke AF and I set up monthly donations to my Admin. I'll be increasing the amount as soon as I can. Donate what you can. Every bit helps.
#Donate #AdminCosts #Patreon
MaybeMyMonkeys
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Ken
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tim Panton
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Instances could put a poison pill in their user privacy policies saying that users would have to individually consent to new owners using the data.
jaymerryfield
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •aethervision
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Mary Wolf
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Brian Hawthorne
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Thomas Blechschmidt
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Zulhilmi Asyraf
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Albert Hubble
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Whats the implication for me here? If my instance gets deconnected what happens? That sounds like a bad development.
culla
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Kim Spence-Jones #FBPE
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •talha
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Nikita Red Squirrel
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Maybe a dumb question but perhaps a pertinent one to those on the receiving end of an unwanted acquisition:
Can you migrate your account to another Mastodon instance after yours has been de-federated, or is it then too late?
Robert Drózd
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Quinn Blueheart 🔞✍️🔥
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Gen X-Wing
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •NFTs? Then we should defederate at once. Exactly zero good comes from any of this. I rather leave Mastodon than deal with commercial BS.
(Happy to sponsor instances etc, but this isn’t that.)
LostInPompeii
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •brunospy
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •It's more a Fediverse instance than a mastodon one 😀
ocdtrekkie
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •BruceToman
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Important context on why Pawoo got so big and why it's widely defederated (its about "lolicon").
I don't know (i really don't) that this acquisition is a generalizable example...
ethanzuckerman.com/2017/08/18/…
Mastodon is big in Japan. The reason why is... uncomfortable - Ethan Zuckerman
Ethan (Ethan Zuckerman)Drew Mochak
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Salvatore A.
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •This is where Mastsdon confuses me. How do I access other “instances”? And I thought it said we could change servers - but how? And why would we?
I want to switch here full time, but it makes me feel so old to not understand this newfangled tech 😅
2xfo
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Kingsley Uyi Idehen
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •,
Important clarification.
#Web3 is about #Crypto.
#Web30 is about something utterly different i.e., a generation of #Web evolution characterized by the use of hyperlinks to denote anything rather than just documents (#HTML, #PDF, etc..). Net effect, a Web of machine-computable data.
The same folks that constructed #JavaScript from #Java as a marketing strategy, embarked on the same re "Web3" and "Web 3.0" 😀
Machine-computable clarity:
linkeddata.uriburner.com/descr…
#LinkedData
About: Web3
linkeddata.uriburner.comChris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •72mena
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Christopher Øien
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to myrmepropagandist • • •myrmepropagandist
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Kenneth
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Alex Vranas
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •It's no mystery why they are so widely defederated. A Google search for "Pawoo" gives me a simulated child porn artist as the second link on the page.
mstdnJP has actual child porn on it...
It's basic due diligence to keep that content off of your instance.
Glad to learn about the Mask Network owning more instances. I'm guessing they are of similar risk.
okayherewego
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •What does this mean for us proles?
And why was it defederated?
The article quotes figures in the millions, which seems at odds with the concept of "decentralization".
Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •chris@strafpla.net
in reply to Kerry Maxwell • • •@kerrymaxwell @adnan
If they are not interested in the foundation they are building their new homes on, their new homes will be as stable as their old homes in birdland.
Some people are willing to learn the basic concepts, some are not. This involves a minimum of mental work which is pain for some.
People who chose to stay ignorant will stay ignorant. It has nothing to do with being a tech dweep.The basic concepts are easy enough to understand for everybody.
Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •@kerrymaxwell @chris @adnan No one's telling you to self-host. What I am suggesting is:
* if you have the ability, self-host
* if you have time to learn, self-host
* if you're so paranoid that you can't trust anyone but yourself, self-host
In the meantime, get to know your instance admin and make sure they're someone you can put your confidence in.
Otherwise you get another situation where people have to migrate away from mastodon.cloud.
Kerry Maxwell
in reply to chris@strafpla.net • • •
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
Unknown parent • • •Hal Brown
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Hal Brown • • •Hal Brown
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •TrackerRoo
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Larofan :verified:
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •JonTitor
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •chris@strafpla.net
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •And if you just want to use Mastodon, understand the concept of federation and why the size and type of your instance matters.
Pete Bleackley
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Unkempt and Unconventional
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •John Philpin Ⓜ️
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Corn Woman 🌽
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Chris Trottier
in reply to Corn Woman 🌽 • • •Chris Trottier (@atomicpoet@mastodon.social)
Mastodonelle mundy
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •everyone on the fediverse: lmao where are all the crypto bros??? ahaha
crypto bros: hold on we’re almost there
Defiance!
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Strypey
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •> the world's 2nd biggest Mastodon instance, has just been acquired.
This reminds me of the TV series Startup, in which a group comprising a technologist, a grifter, and a gangster get VC funding for a crypto project. Then later when the VCs pull the rug out from under them, they try again with a decentralized social network. Spoilers; it ends badly for everyone involved.
Keep in mind though that Mask Network has owned two big Mastodon servers for a while.
@smallcircles
Steveg58
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Phillip Winn
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Mrs Raven
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Robin Renée (she, her)
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Tykayn
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •misha 🪨
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@kerrymaxwell @chris @adnan @Zir0h
going for paranoid myself ha ha … but no kidding try to find that group of people you sync with and fire up that instance. it’s fun and easy!
let’s have a healthy decentralized, diverse and happy #fediverse ✨
Jay Lender
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •🗦 𝙴𝚞𝚋𝚒𝚎 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚠 🗧（🦣)
Unknown parent • • •Just go there, it will be obvious.
Chris Trottier
in reply to 🗦 𝙴𝚞𝚋𝚒𝚎 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚠 🗧（🦣) • • •Justin du Coeur
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •social.coop
Mastodon hosted on social.coopChris Trottier reshared this.
Chris Trottier
in reply to Justin du Coeur • • •Justin du Coeur
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •🗦 𝙴𝚞𝚋𝚒𝚎 𝙳𝚛𝚎𝚠 🗧（🦣)
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@Yoshi
He's right, don't go there.
Chris Trottier
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Kip
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •I think it's worth noting that pawoo was already corp-owned, so this isn't as big a change as it seems; the new corp is just shadier.
honestly i'm less worried about what this will do to the eng-speaking side of fedi and more about how bad a position the jp-speaking side is in, ooooof.
Boud
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •@fd0 @photovince @rustycrates @Thinkish @73ms @marti
Just a reminder that most of the running Mastodon instances point to our source code/bug report system *centralised* on a *Microsoft* git forge (/about page).
The developers seem unwilling to even enter a serious discussion about *starting* to plan a migration off <s>Twitter</s> Microsoft: github.com/mastodon/mastodon/i…
Without community pressure, we'll continue to advertise and depend on Microsoft.
@Codeberg
#MastodonOffGithub
Mastodon needs a plan to migrate off its Microsoft/Github repository server · Issue #22572 · mastodon/mastodon
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Wait but they say "decentralized" and "open web" a lot, surely this means they are operating in good faith? /s
Maybe evidence of my millennial mind, but I read the last sentence (about a free and open internet) in the same cadence that Jeremy Irons delivered the line about the dawning of a new era, "where lion and hyena come together in a great and glorious future" in The Lion King, right after he's killed Mufasa and is assuming the throne.
Alex
in reply to Chris Trottier • • •Deploy, scale and manage Mastodon server on the cloud - qoddi.com
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in reply to Chris Trottier • • •On the one hand, this is curious news, but on the other hand, it's weird to imply that that's the reason so many instances are defederated from pawoo...
But I suppose discussing artistic freedom (although I've also heard pawoo was really bad at using CWs/marking art sensitive) and the news is a bit much for people to do at once...
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Unknown parent • • •@clayrivers Sorry, forgot the TLD.
The last one is mastodon.cloud