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in reply to FurryMemesAccount

Start with the easy stuff. Get those around you off WhatsApp and Discord.
in reply to Autonomous User

tellling a normie to quit using spyware.... might as well call his mother a whore while at it.
in reply to sunzu2

Skill issue. If you can't fix this, how will you ever fix that?

See part 1: lemmy.world/post/35312231


Classic tech disinformation and my battle-tested counterattack cheat sheet (work in progress)


Privacy is multiplayer. So, we must spread it.

To do well, we must fight efficiently.

We cannot waste our lives writing a custom essay against every troll, disinformer and psyop agent.

Short, simple and focused response is vital.

Here is what works for me:


  1. > I do not care about privacy
  • Agreed. We do not control X, scam. Why should we let it abuse us?
  • Agreed. X is not libre software, we do not control it, scam. Why should we let it abuse us?
  • Agreed. X fails to include a libre software license text file, we do not control it, scam. Why should we let it abuse us?
  1. > Open source ...
  • 'Open source' misses the point of libre software, by design.
  • 'Open source' is a blatantly backdoored phrase, engineered to neutralise libre software.
  1. > Developers [owners] [of anti-libre software] need [to make money] to eat.
  • You are not entitled to infect our devices and hijack control over our computing.
  • Selling libre software is good.
  1. > You must read all its source code to guarantee it is safe.
  • Blatant lie, classic disinformation, who told you to read it alone? lmao
  • When it bans us from forking it, we do not control it, guaranteed. lmao
  1. > Crypto [currency] ...
  • Truth nuke, the biggest scam ever made is the $
  • Cash will never be more safe or private than 12 words in my head.


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in reply to Autonomous User

They have to come around it themselves.

I just plant seed, they come back once they are ready to have the adult discussion.

it took years to move my friends into privacy focused product. with each new fiasco one or two would reach out.

in reply to sunzu2

This is the way. Make a post. It would help a lot of people.
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in reply to Autonomous User

Do you really think it is feasible to convert people to less convenient alternative? What are you going to do, force them at a gunpoint?
in reply to someacnt

What are you going to do


I've already done it and I never needed force.

An app is never convenient when we do not control it.

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in reply to Autonomous User

Even if we get people to shift to privacy respecting or encrypted apps, the problem still stands. They could just ask you to give access to those services. If you don't, it would come with its own legal challenges.

Section 247(1)(ii)–(iii) mandates individuals and businesses to disclose passwords or encryption keys and permits officers to “override the access control” of any device or account. If you don’t hand over your phone passcode or email password on demand, officials can hack into the device. Any refusal is now explicitly punishable as non-compliance.

End-to-end encrypted messaging services like WhatsApp or Signal could be forced open during a tax raid.


Solving the issue would need to come from challenging the act itself.

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in reply to bergetfew

They won't know what we're using.

If you can't challenge a few apps, you'll never challenge that.

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in reply to bergetfew

If you scroll down the article you would see that the select committee is shutting down any requests for change with the same set of arguments. The recourse might be to challenge the act in court but that seems unlikely, The public wont really do anything about it, because in their view it doesn't affect them; they fail to see(and are veiled from seeing) the highly probable misuse angle of such far reaching legislation.

Bottom line: As long as you don't touch the street dogs you can get away with anything

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in reply to Artemis_Mystique

☹️

I hate that you are right. I really wanted to do something to make a difference, but it's saddening to see no one batting an eye to this.

in reply to bergetfew

But you can do something to make a difference, get others to care. How? See this:

lemmy.world/comment/19227806


Start with the easy stuff. Get those around you off WhatsApp and Discord.

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in reply to Autonomous User

You are right. This is the least I can do.

Thanks for the words of encouragement.