Google will require developer verification for Android apps outside the Play Store
cross-posted from: jlai.lu/post/24787719
Starting next year, Google will begin to verify the identities of developers distributing their apps on Android devices, not just those who distribute via the Play Store.
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Mugita Sokio
in reply to Mas • • •aurelar
in reply to Mugita Sokio • • •StarlightDust
in reply to Mas • • •floofloof
in reply to StarlightDust • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to floofloof • • •Hellfire103
in reply to Mas • • •Whoa, whoa, whoa! What the actual fuck, Google‽
I swear to Hephaestus, at this point I'm considering switching to UBPorts or Sailfish OS or something...
ScoffingLizard
in reply to Hellfire103 • • •noodlejetski (he/him)
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •tomenzgg
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in reply to noodlejetski (he/him) • • •HappyFrog
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •This is from their site:
ScoffingLizard
in reply to Mas • • •Lojcs
in reply to ScoffingLizard • • •ScoffingLizard
in reply to Mas • • •trewq
in reply to Mas • • •Ulrich
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in reply to Ulrich • • •BlameTheAntifa
in reply to trewq • • •That Weird Vegan
in reply to trewq • • •redti
in reply to Mas • • •☂️-
in reply to redti • • •fuck google and all, but yes they will. what other mainstream phone is any better? apple? give me a fucking break.
android without gapps will be a niche for the foreseeable future, and niches get ever easier to kill. with the play integrity thing and banking apps, i don't see linux phones getting real traction either as much as i'd like it to.
redti
in reply to ☂️- • • •floofloof
in reply to redti • • •Fairphone 6 looks quite interesting and has a Google-free option. People are saying it's a bit buggy but they're fixing the bugs rapidly. And two-day battery life sounds pretty good.
shop.fairphone.com/the-fairpho…
The Fairphone (Gen. 6) now with privacy-first /e/OS
Fairphone☂️-
in reply to Mas • • •yup, they are closing in. i wonder why the surveillance wing of the fascist regime wants to control everyone's digital life that more tightly.
you guys may have the power to protest this before it goes worldwide. i wonder if there will be real pushback.
Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to ☂️- • • •I mean, some of us did when GrapheneOS and folks started to bootlick goolag for their walled garden in pro of security as well as the economical breach they did not cover (Pixels are not available to everynyan) and even incentivated.
Yet here we are again.
SugarCatDestroyer
in reply to ☂️- • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to Mas • • •quick_snail
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to quick_snail • • •Those proxy services usually do not target custom stores (Banango and Guanxe Prime).
Also, it leaves you unprotected if something is bad with the goods, as the return parcel ticket targets the initial destination.
quick_snail
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •ProxySto.re
Anonshop.app
You definitely can buy from custom stores. Just send them the URL and the Monero.
Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to quick_snail • • •They dont send to my place :3
The second one has the same problems I mentioned in a post before and in the service to send anywhere, 600 USD is prohibitive.
Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to quick_snail • • •doctortofu
in reply to Mas • • •utopiah
in reply to doctortofu • • •2deck
in reply to utopiah • • •zod000
in reply to 2deck • • •blindsight
in reply to utopiah • • •apfelwoiSchoppen
in reply to doctortofu • • •Requirement of authentication apps is making it trickier too. If you want to go to a concert or sporting event vended by ticketmaster, you're fucked outside of Android and iOS.
Clocking into jobs increasingly requires Android or iOS.
zod000
in reply to apfelwoiSchoppen • • •Ferk
in reply to apfelwoiSchoppen • • •DerdWurst
in reply to doctortofu • • •utopiah
in reply to Mas • • •rezad
in reply to utopiah • • •no.
those are just android with some modification.
two years from now google can easily disrupt them too.
phones need a copyleft new OS. not a foss one, an actual copyleft one. with an independent group managing it.
an OS that a company can decide what app I can run on it is just a surveillance apparatus gadget.
google never wanted user to have control of their phone even 10 years ago.
the easiest way to check this is to see if you can stop an installed app to ever do stuff without you explicitly opening it.
they are so many "triggers" that apps can register and run based on them that user cant do anything about them. "wifi connected" "wifi disconnected" and so on.
if an app can "listen" to these triggers and I cant disable it from listening to them (even for non-system apps) them I don't really own my phone. then android is just a attention stealing spam machine at best and spying and terror gadget for world's supremacist regimes too.
I think even apple iOS has that option (disabling backgournd refresh per app ) and in that regard is better than android.
If I wasn't against non-foss software and I didn't live in Iran, at this point apple iOS is not that different fro google and is more polished too.
utopiah
in reply to rezad • • •Eager Eagle
in reply to Mas • • •msage
in reply to Eager Eagle • • •Harmful to who? People? Perchance.
Googles bottom line? Give them all the dark patterns in the world twice.
furry toaster
in reply to Eager Eagle • • •apfelwoiSchoppen
in reply to Mas • • •SugarCatDestroyer
in reply to apfelwoiSchoppen • • •smiletolerantly
in reply to apfelwoiSchoppen • • •EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted
in reply to Mas • • •SugarCatDestroyer
in reply to EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted • • •EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted
in reply to SugarCatDestroyer • • •redti
in reply to Mas • • •frank
in reply to redti • • •American company Americanly doing some American shit:
What is this, Asia??
redti
in reply to frank • • •Lojcs
in reply to Mas • • •I made fun of the Liberux Nexx before due to its outdated cpu being promoted as new but this is making me change my mind. Speed isn't worth the walled garden. I have concerns about the battery life but all it takes to remedy that is a powerbank. Banking apps might be a problem but if I find their websites wanting I can just use them on an old cheap android.
It is disappointing that the Liberux Nexx missed its fundraising goal and had to open a new one. And the new one is only 10% of the way there, with no prototype and delivery on next summer. That's cutting it very close with the timeline of these restrictions. indiegogo.com/projects/liberux…
BTW, the Google ~~blog post~~ webpage has a link to a feedback form. Doubt it will do anything, but if you want an abyss to yell that's good as any: docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAI…
Liberux NEXX
IndiegogoZerush
in reply to Mas • • •toneburst
in reply to Mas • • •Zerush
in reply to toneburst • • •/e/OS - e Foundation - deGoogled unGoogled smartphone operating systems and online services - your data is your data
e.foundationEchedelle (she/her)
in reply to Zerush • • •Zerush
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to Zerush • • •Zerush
in reply to Echedelle (she/her) • • •Echedelle (she/her)
in reply to Zerush • • •mapu
in reply to Zerush • • •They're closing in on alternative ROMs with their fucking shitty device integrity checks, I'm afraid it's only getting worse. I literally had to switch back to stock Android because none of the e-government apps of the country I live in NOR two out of my three banks work on /e/. Literally impossible to participate in society unless I sell my soul to Google, sadly.
I really hope we're able to fight back and win the war.
Ferk
in reply to mapu • • •That's sad, and so backwards...
If they really wanted to make sure the data on the phone is safe, the integrity checks should be about making sure the phone is built from FOSS with available source code, that can be publicly audited and even the banks themselves could check it for security.. which should actually rule Google services out, not the other way around!
LiveLM
in reply to toneburst • • •I'm starting to feel like the Mobile Computing space died somewhere around when the Subnotebooks and the PDAs died and we've been living illusions ever since.
It's the Mobile Appliance™ space now.
Balldowern
in reply to Mas • • •So I guess my next phone will be a Chinese phone. Even if it spies on me, I'll have the freedom to install whatever I want from anywhere.
The Chinese have a golden window of opportunity. Let's hope they don't mess this up.
thedruid
in reply to Mas • • •Grazed
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in reply to Grazed • • •COASTER1921
in reply to thedruid • • •thedruid
in reply to COASTER1921 • • •Just leave an irrationally cranky old man his delusions. Lol
ElectricMachman
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in reply to ElectricMachman • • •MrMeanJavaBean
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in reply to Mas • • •Peter_Arbeitsloser
in reply to smiletolerantly • • •smiletolerantly
in reply to Peter_Arbeitsloser • • •You are probably half-joking, but.... yeah.
I fucking hate this timeline. Actually, scratch that, that is way to placid and abstract.
I hate the assholes in charge. Fuck all of them. Luigi did nothing wrong.
Peter_Arbeitsloser
in reply to smiletolerantly • • •smiletolerantly
in reply to Peter_Arbeitsloser • • •xcjs
in reply to Mas • • •Android developer verification requirements
Google DocsGrazed
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in reply to Grazed • • •katy ✨
in reply to Mas • • •quick_snail
in reply to Mas • • •monovergent 🛠️
in reply to Mas • • •TheCoralReefsAreDying69
in reply to monovergent 🛠️ • • •If you have the stock OS from the manufacturer, it will affect you. If you flash a custom ROM, it won't.
Edit: You can still use F-Droid regardless of which android you're running, but if you run stock you can only install the apps that have developers registered with google.
u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)
in reply to TheCoralReefsAreDying69 • • •quick_snail
in reply to u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org) • • •tomenzgg
in reply to Mas • • •I'm probably going to spam this around a bit, since most people don't seem to know about it, but a reminder that FuriLabs has a (GNU+)Linux phone with decent spec.s and the ability to run Android app.s (from what I've heard) pretty decently: furilabs.com/
Biggest drawback is it's based on Halium. Usual growing pains of a new product/company apply but apparently the company is pretty responsive and their dev.s have worked with customers to get things like calling working with the carrier and bands of their country where it hasn't worked before so improvements move pretty quickly.
Collection of different experiences I've variously seen online over the last year or so:
* clehaxze.tw/gemlog/2025/07-20-…
* news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4…
* reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1f…
* reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1j…
* theregister.com/2025/02/03/fur…
I don't own one, myself, so I can't give any personal experience but I've seen it around for a few years now but most people don't seem to even know about it. Maybe there's a reason for that? But none I've ever seen anyone say.
FuriPhone FLX1: A Debian-powered brick that puts GNOME in your back pocket
Liam Proven (The Register)Revan343
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