Okay, some really bad news but also a suggestion for a way forward.
The Guppe groups domain name was sold by their registrar before they could renew it. This means all Guppe groups are broken, and their web addresses point to a spam blog ๐
However, there is another group provider called FediGroups, you can find out more on their site:
โก๏ธ about.fedigroups.social/home
FediGroups has features that Guppe never had, including private groups.
(More info about #Guppe situation: github.com/immers-space/guppe/โฆ )
Guppe is dead?
Hey @wmurphyrd ๐ I notice as of September 2025, the domains gup.pe and immers.space seem to have expired and a.gup.pe has been replaced with a WordPress installation full of SEO-targeted content ab...mattcoxonline (GitHub)
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The Prismatic Painter
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Aurin Azadรฎ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •๐๏ธ @mirabilos und die anderen #GalgenMasto #GalgenFedi Leute: Wie kriegen wir das umgezogen?
social.growyourown.services/@Fโฆ
Fedi.Tips
2025-09-07 17:51:36
Nelson
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •We really need some alternative to renting domain names.
EDIT: I like the concept of petnames, but I'm sure there are other valid solutions: files.spritely.institute/paperโฆ
Petnames: A humane approach to secure, decentralized naming
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Claudius
in reply to Nelson • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to Claudius • • •@claudius @skyfaller
It seems that on some country-based domains people can indeed take it from you before it expires:
defcon.social/@anonax/11516684โฆ
This is just ludicrous, difficult to see why these domains have such stupid rules.
Anonax (@anonax@defcon.social)
DEF CON Socialsb arms & legs
in reply to Nelson • • •Yes, something that isn't raw IPv6.
Sam Whited
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •cobalt
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •I was just going to post solely for caregivers today and now Iโm stopped. Iโll read about the workaround suggested. Thanks for bringing this up!
AudhdDespiteNoisyAbleism ๐จ๐ฆ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •#ActuallyAutistic have you seen this? โฌ๏ธ
And if I understand correctly the @ actuallyautistic guppe shouldnโt be used anymore?
Edit. So itโs yes and take a look at this
beige.party/@melindrea/1151643โฆ
:neuro: Antonius Marie โง (@melindrea@beige.party)
beige.partyAutistrain
in reply to AudhdDespiteNoisyAbleism ๐จ๐ฆ • • •You're right.
Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama
in reply to Autistrain • • •.
I havenโt yet figured out what the groups do
Fedi.Tips
in reply to Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama • • •@punishmenthurts @Autistrain @adelinej
They boost your posts automatically so that your post reaches other people interested in the group's topic.
Aaron
in reply to Goiterzan/Amygdalai Lama • • •Post with a group account's @handle, and everyone who follows that group account will see your post. Very simple mechanics similar to how hashtags work, only it's automatic and you get a notification.
Antonius Marie โง
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Pax Ahimsa Gethen
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •cobalt
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@caregivers
and I will announce a new group if FediGroups.social approves it. See this please @constantorbit
#Caregivers
Urban Camera
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Feur
in reply to Urban Camera • • •@uc each TLD has its own renewal policy
afaict, .pe domains are available for registration by anyone 10 days before the actual expiration date
Fedi.Tips
in reply to Feur • • •@citronmecha @uc
"pe domains are available for registration by anyone 10 days before the actual expiration date"
That seems like a horrible, horrible policy? ๐ฌ Surely that's just going to help domain squatters?
Urban Camera
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •my thoughts exactly.
@citronmecha
GeneralX โณ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Current registrant of gup.pe:
Registrant Name: cesar garcia
Admin Name: cesar garcia
Admin Email: cesar.garciasky@gmail.com
Other .pe domains of theirs:
apec2016.pe
denuncias.net.pe
mitiempo.pe
oit.org.pe
poderciudadano.org.pe
somosempresa.pe
somosperu.org.pe
swisscontact.org.pe
Leeloo
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@citronmecha @uc
It depends on how you word it.
If you flip it around and say you have 10 days to use your domain to notify your users after you lost "ownership" of it, it's suddenly better than it just being gone.
abeorch
in reply to Feur • • •Anonax
in reply to Feur • • •@citronmecha @uc
According to Namecheap, it's 12 days, and there are other ccTLDs whose registries have made similar questionable decisions. It seems like all gTLDs should be safe from this, since they have ICANN oversight and ICANN presumably also thinks this is stupid. It's weird that auto renewal didn't do anything. Did they not have it set up or something?
namecheap.com/support/knowledgโฆ
EDIT:
This does not seem to be fully accurate, or at least, Tucows has a different list than Namecheap. They also say 10 days instead of 12, and have shorter time periods for most of the other ccTLDs. It's possible some of this is at the discretion of the registrar. The main point still stands that this is a thing that ccTLD registries seemingly do sometimes, so set your domains to auto renew. The only way to be fully sure would likely be to find detailed descriptions of the policies directly from each registry, or contact them directly to ask, but I do not have the time for that. If someone else wants to, feel free.
support.enom.com/support/solutโฆ
(Thanks for pointing out the discrepancies with the .fr ccTLD, @bortzmeyer )
ccTLD domain policies
Enom Customer SupportLichen Lich
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to Lichen Lich • • •@Moss
The actual post about it mentions an "upstream registrar" doing this so I don't know if that has some effect?
MJ Ray
in reply to Lichen Lich • • •Fedi.Tips
Unknown parent • • •@Moss
This is another possible explanation: rivals.space/@citronmecha/1151โฆ
Feur
2025-09-07 18:31:42
dmynerd78
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •(See above post)
Jonathan
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •gemelen
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Regendans
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •How to use groups on Mastodon and the Fediverse | Fedi.Tips โ An Unofficial Guide to Mastodon and the Fediverse
fedi.tipsFedi.Tips
in reply to Regendans • • •@regendans
Yeah, I'm just about to rewrite that!
Baral'heia Stormdancer ฮฮ๐ฒ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Furbland's Very Cool Mastodonโข
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •normy foxyoreos
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •It's disappointing that FediGroups bans NSFW.
Are there any similar group providers that are more open to broader fediverse communities?
Francois Dion
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Gregory
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •How exactly was the domain name "sold by their registrar before they could renew it"?
Seems like an easy appeal to ICANN if it was registrar malfeasance vs. "oops I forgot to renew this critical identifier in time".
hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ณ๏ธโ๐
in reply to hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ • • •Mind you, I don't expect a reply or an answer that isn't โYeah, they just forgot to renew it.โ
If it is the latter, that's a big part of the reason the Fediverse is the way it is rn.
Fedi.Tips
in reply to hrbrmstr ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ฌ๐ฑ ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ณ๏ธโ๐ • • •@hrbrmstr
Apparently these are ccTLDs which aren't covered by ICANN:
defcon.social/@anonax/11516684โฆ
Anonax (@anonax@defcon.social)
DEF CON SocialGeneralX โณ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •x0
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •mkj
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •If you are a #MastoAdmin #FediAdmin, you may want to purge a.gup.pe from your server.
In Mastodon, go into admin > Moderation > Federation > Add new domain block. Create one for the domain name "gup.pe" (subdomains are included) with "suspend" severity. Once added, go into the details for the newly added block and you'll find the "Purge" button right at the bottom of the page.
โ ๏ธ โ ๏ธ Once the domain is purged, the list of severed follows will no longer be available to local users. โ ๏ธ โ ๏ธ
@FediTips
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Diary of Paracelsusโs Rose
in reply to mkj • • •@Curator โฌ๏ธ how do you think about this? Is this something you want to do? (Iโve no firm idea)
@mkj
MastodonโขART ๐จ Curator
in reply to Diary of Paracelsusโs Rose • • •Talya (she/her) ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธโก๏ธ
in reply to mkj • • •i'm probably missing something, but why purge and not just suspend?
mkj
in reply to Talya (she/her) ๐ณ๏ธโโง๏ธโก๏ธ • • •@Yuvalne Because if the domain has been taken over, it can easily cause all kinds of confusion and issues if whoever snatched up the domain were to start running a Fedi server (for example in this case by turning on Wordpress' Activitypub integration), especially while one's own server is still trying to communicate with it as if it were the old one. If the domain is purged, then if an Activitypub instance shows up at the domain later on, it's as if it's all brand new.
@FediTips
Wulfy
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •This domain stealing bullshit by #registrar has to stop.
Fuckers don't even pay the minimum price, I am sure as they domain squat on millions of domains, then declare them "premium" and try to sell them for $1000's
The #TLD system is corrupt.
Fedi.Tips
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •p.s. For those wondering how this can happen, the .pe domain which gup.pe used has a highly unusual clause which allows anyone to buy the domain 12 days *before* it expires:
"The .CH, .ES, .FR, .LI, .PE, .SG, .COM.SG, .COM.AU, .ORG.AU, .NET.AU TLDs must be renewed 12 days prior to the actual expiration date. If not renewed, the domain will enter the redemption stage right away regardless of the number of days left until expiration."
namecheap.com/support/knowledgโฆ
(Thanks @anonax for info!)
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๐๐๐๐๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •holy shit, that's really crap
@anonax
Fedi.Tips
in reply to ๐๐๐๐๐ • • •@selea
It's a very, very odd policy, seems to be just begging domain squatters to exploit it.
Julia Clement
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@anonax
Holy fuck! That is the nastiest abuse of registrants I have heard in the 20 years since I registered the .com of Kiore, my then nickname, to get the email address I wanted. Luckily neither .com nor .nz which I do use are this grasping, but Switzerland, Spain, France, Liechtenstein, and Australia are all places I would expect to do better.
Kevin Russell
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@anonax
That's just foul. That needs widespread anti-ads, warnings running often on Mastodon.
Mastodon may one of the biggest collections of new domains anywhere outside crime.
Mastofon needs a "worst of" warning system for bad actors like them.
Koro!! ๐ณ ฮฮ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •xyla ๐๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •ะั ๏ฟฝ๏ฟฝ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •this looks like a fuckin scam. Like, yeah, you rented domain for a year, but actually no, I just stole it. Try buying it back and maybe I'll return it to you
@anonax
Resuna
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@anonax
What are the vendors alleged rationale for this egregiously abusive policy?
Fedi.Tips
in reply to Resuna • • •@resuna
No idea! It makes no sense.
Eckes
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Eli the Bearded
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Pax Ahimsa Gethen
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Not sure if this falls under "enshittification" or something more sinister, but someone needs to publicize this bullshit policy more widely.
Pinging @pluralistic
Travis
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Nik
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@anonax I believe you are wrong about at least .ch and .li ccTLDs.
mastodon.social/@nikclayton/11โฆ
Nik (@nikclayton@mastodon.social)
MastodonLuci Callous Thumb
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to Luci Callous Thumb • • •@bri_seven
I'm so sorry, that is awful! ๐
Gytis Repeฤka
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •What was the registrar they've been using?
So that other would know which company to avoid
Aaron
in reply to Gytis Repeฤka • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to Aaron • • •@hosford42 @gytisrepecka
This is apparently not a registrar problem but a ccTLD problem, anyone using these ccTLDs is at risk of them being bought up to 12 days before expiration:
defcon.social/@anonax/11516684โฆ
Anonax (@anonax@defcon.social)
DEF CON SocialOskar im Keller
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •๐ @dentaku - did you see this โฌ๏ธ?
Also this answer might be relevant (you will know if it really makes sense)
social.mkj.earth/@mkj/11516444โฆ
mkj
2025-09-07 18:33:50
Jaime Herazo
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •No, because hashtags don't actively push content to other servers.
When you follow a hashtag, it's basically a filter for whatever is on your server anyway. If your server hasn't noticed a particular account yet, it won't notice that account's posts on that hashtag.
When you follow a group, it actively pulls in all posts from anyone on any server that posts to that group.
Groups are basically "super hashtags" in a way ๐
Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •A real catastrophe to the Fediverse when I see how many groups we had.
BrisWombat
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Petra van Cronenburg
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •The warning about the "legal" steeling of the #guppe domain is also very important for all people who gave regular donations to the site! I'm sure they don't want to throw money at this guy.
#groups #GuppeGroups #Fediverse #donations
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Fedi.Tips
in reply to Petra van Cronenburg • • •@NatureMC
To be fair, the maintainer has said they will cancel subs and issue refunds: github.com/immers-space/guppe/โฆ
Guppe is dead?
mattcoxonline (GitHub)[Flawed] Anarchist โ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Thats because someone asked them to do it. But a lot more people want them to continue but under a different domain.
Fedigroups sounds like a censorship networks rather than a group feature.
> Groups are expected to conform with standard levels of decency and respect. We will not setup, and/or may remove Groups in the future, which are setup to distribute: hate speech; discrimination; spam; promotion of violence; adult NSFW content; impersonation of people/organizations.
Newsmast Foundation
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •This sucks! So sorry to hear that, the Guppe Groups were a big influence when we first joined the Fediverse. Feel free to reach out if there is anything we can do to help - we also have a feed builder with similar functionality to FediGroups, so perhaps there's some space for us to work together?
home.channel.org/channels
Channels | Channel.org
home.channel.orgRina (she/her)
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to Rina (she/her) • • •@Rinakochi
They were federated with Mastodon, there were problems federating with some other Fedi platforms though.
FediGroups is better for compatibility with other Fedi platforms.
Misofist
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •TKb0iZ ๐ท๐ด ๐ช๐บ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ธ
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Fedi.Tips
in reply to TKb0iZ ๐ท๐ด ๐ช๐บ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ธ • • •@TKb0iZ
You might want to tag their account to ask about that?
Peter Link ๐๐จ๐บ๐ต๐ธ๐ง
in reply to TKb0iZ ๐ท๐ด ๐ช๐บ ๐บ๐ฆ ๐ต๐ธ • • •same with me. :/
Fedi.Tips
in reply to Peter Link ๐๐จ๐บ๐ต๐ธ๐ง • • •They are really, really busy as they're suddenly getting way more people contacting them than before:
fedigroups.social/@hello/11517โฆ
It's an unpaid volunteer running it and manually checking each application, I think we just need to give them some time to catch up ๐
FediGroups Admin
2025-09-09 22:11:28
sunflower mage ๐
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •@Curator
I made a FediGroup for artists! Enjoy and feel free to boost!
@drawing
It's a shame, but FediGroups don't allow NSFW artworks
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Fedi.Tips
in reply to sunflower mage ๐ • • •@MxPoesu
I've been telling people about these new FediGroups (including your one) over on @FediFollows ๐
meowra ๐ โโ๏ธ๐ดโโ ๏ธ (Blorbo-Free Zone)
in reply to Fedi.Tips • • •Edited to add: Apparently ovo.st does, though! And it works the same way guppe did โ you create a new group by mentioning or searching for the handle you want. Just put "ovo.st" instead of "a.gup.pe".