Teachable moment on actual network decentralization...
Some ask, what is wrong with platforming and verifying JD Vance? This is a subject upon which different people will have different opinions.
The issue is that in a centralized system the decision is left with the centralized authority. In this case, #Bluesky's Jay Graber. They only option users have is to individually block the account, which as David Fleetwood @reflex explains here is an opt-out decision: retrogaming.social/@reflex/114…
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in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •The beauty of a truly decentralized network is that collective moderation forces align to safeguard the community. An individual instance certainly has the ability to platform anyone. However, when they do so they risk collective action by the network to isolate them and their users. We have seen this multiple times where simply the threat of instance blocking has affected moderation decisions. This is, in effect, a natural organic means of defense for the larger community.
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Mastodon Migration
in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •Let's take it even further. Imagine an instance wholly embraces platforming the individual, and are subsequently blocked by many other instances. Instance users have the real option of moving somewhere else. Further, other instances that likewise don't object stay connected. The network adapts, and even balkanizes into almost entirely separate sub-networks based on different values. Decentralization replaces unitary authority with collective democratic process.
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Lefty
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Kind of. It is more of a fork of Mastodon because it doesn't federate at all.
There are however many instances that host things like graphic pornography that are blocked by most 'mainstream' Fediverse instances. So, a kind of 'dark Fediverse' does exist and is a good example of how the network balkanizes and organically defends against such 'bad' actors.
sanana🏴🏳️⚧️
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This is a good point. The blocklists and composable moderation does provide a means of autoblocking. Never-the-less it is still an opt-in process that requires you to take the affirmative action of moderating your account by joining the blocklist. The default is that the account is not blocked.
LiquidParasyte
in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •@sanana it would be possible for ATProto platforms like Bluesky to have an opt-in process of more people/orgs hosted their own PDS/infrastructure — then you would have the simplicity of their platforms and also the option of a moderation team that is proactive instead of reactive
Alas, the vast majority is on the equivalent of mastodon.social (but worse)
Karis [moved account- see bio]
in reply to Mastodon Migration • • •that's why I think platforms that leave it upto the user are doing more harm than good especially when it comes to such individuals and their 'conversations'.
as long as the main line is open, the hate will spread, regardless if I block it or not - it shouldn't be available/accessible in the first place.
Fedi Tips does a better job at explaining this below:
social.growyourown.services/@F…
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2025-06-19 13:27:00
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in reply to Karis [moved account- see bio] • • •Agreed. Love @FediTips explanation. Also feel like the best succinct phrasing comes from @eons in a reply to another thread on this topic today:
"when a hostile actor appears, if your options are "look away or leave" then you're in a nazi bar"
mastodon.gamedev.place/@eons/1…
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Karis [moved account- see bio]
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that's it right there! so spot on.
thanks for that share.