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How come Lemmy rarely shows up in internet search results?


I'm curious as to why Lemmy rarely shows up in search results on the main internet even if there is a post related to the search input. I've only ever seen a Lemmy result if Lemmy is specified. Is this because we're still relatively small or some other reason?
in reply to countrypunk

I've seen league of linux lemmy show up in search results but thats dead now so rip. Other than that we dont have that many answer style threads compared with the years and years of blogspam and reddit spam.
in reply to countrypunk

These days all I seem to get from search is regurgitated dog vomit AI written summaries.
in reply to TropicalDingdong

Decided to pay for Kagi, and now Google results look even more ridiculous.
in reply to countrypunk

There's just not enough content here besides tech and linux. Also, It's likely about keeping the internet influence dynamics inside the silicon valley, which in part is favorable to authoritarian surveillance system like the US. And yes, they are in bed with each other if you haven't noticed.
in reply to countrypunk

I've actually started to see some results from Lemmy.world in DuckDuckGo search results.
in reply to ayyy

I don't remember the exact search, but it had something to do with Star Citizen. A link to a post from that Lemmy.world community was fairly high on a DuckDuckGo search result.

Along with a few other users, I've posted some useful links and info in the community over there. It looks like that work is starting to pay off.

in reply to countrypunk

Not much links to it. It's really rare that I see a blog, social media, or non-fediverse forum post link to a Lemmy post. That sort of thing still matters quite a bit to search engines.
in reply to Zak

Be the change you want to see, I've been sending links like piefed.social/post/1062918 to friends and family when I see interesting things or funny memes


How come Lemmy rarely shows up in internet search results?


I'm curious as to why Lemmy rarely shows up in search results on the main internet even if there is a post related to the search input. I've only ever seen a Lemmy result if Lemmy is specified. Is this because we're still relatively small or some other reason?


in reply to Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

Things you send to friends and family will not be indexed by Google, so that is somewhat useless for this purpose.
in reply to schnurrito

Sure but it creates tragic, and they might click around and subscribe, maybe search for it in the future.

It's a marathon not a sprint

in reply to Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

Be the change you want to see


On my flashlight review website, every article links to a corresponding post on !flashlight@lemmy.world and displays comments from there.

in reply to countrypunk

Because nobody in the fediverse is going to waste money on SEO
in reply to yessikg

Doesn't have to be money, but putting in some effort into basic SEO could drive more users here and away form Reddit etc.
in reply to Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

Reddit drives enough of its own users away to make spending money on courting them a waste of time
in reply to countrypunk

because the WWW is now so unimaginably big that something needs to show up on the first page, and except for very obscure search terms, that "something" will probably be more well-known pages that have invested more in SEO
in reply to countrypunk

From an SEO perspective, federation looks almost exactly the same as spam unfortunately. A bunch of websites with very similar content that all link to each other but aren’t linked to externally very much.
in reply to ayyy

...and you say that as if it's a bad thing 😀
in reply to Scrollone

Yes, it hurts discoverability. How can you have a community without people?
in reply to ayyy

Yes, you need people. But I'd say Reddit has too many people. The Ethernal September problem: sometimes, small is better.
in reply to Scrollone

The thing with Reddit is that it got too big and political. It was open before but yet still fun a decade ago.
in reply to ayyy

Yes, it hurts discoverability. How can you have a community without people?


I'd like to ask it the other way around: How many people would it need until you'd say "Yep, that's a community alright."?

in reply to ayyy

This person gets it! After I launched my website/blog it showed up immediately on google, even though it's content is directly pulled from my Lemmy instance. Which has been running much longer than the site, and cannot be found using search engines.
in reply to countrypunk

Depends on the search engine you use. I started giving Kagi a try and it has options to increase visibility of fediverse content in your searches.

I'd guess it's a mix of fediverse being a poor fit for ad-oriented SEO and relatively low adoption.

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