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Germany's far-right AfD welcomes Musk backing


Summary

Elon Musk expressed support for Germany’s far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) party on X, stating “Only the AfD can save Germany.”

Party leader Alice Weidel welcomed his endorsement, urging followers to review her criticisms of German politics.

The AfD, polling at 19% ahead of February’s federal election, is officially under scrutiny as an extremist group by German authorities.

Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label. Controversy surrounds the AfD, including links to a meeting discussing deportation of migrants.

in reply to MicroWave

@MicroWave
He is just pissed because a Union just sued his Tesla Gigafactory in Grünheide, so he goes crying to the ones most likely to make the boo boo go away if given power.

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in reply to MicroWave

Musk has previously questioned the party’s “far-right” label.


Shut up Musk. Your countries political center (if it existed) would count as conservative in Germany.

in reply to MonkderVierte

Our political center is far right anywhere else. Democrats are right-leaning centrists and Republicans are literal Wolfenstein Nazis
in reply to Tiefling IRL

Hey now dont insult the Nazis in Wolfenstein, they at least hated the Klan. Also at least one cared about his mecha dog, Hitler also shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.
in reply to vaultdweller013

shot an Arizonan which is the correct response.


Please don't abuse Arizonans they already abuse themselves by attempting to live on the actual surface of the Sun.

in reply to Maggoty

I will stop abusing Arizonans when the lot of them learn to fucken drive. If ya go to California the speed limit is 10 above posted unless there is a cop ya uncivilized curs!
in reply to vaultdweller013

Hilariously Arizonans are super afraid of the CHP. In Arizona all you hear is they'll get you for speeding too fast. So they will drive 95 all the way to the state border and then do the exact speed limit in California. It's also fun in reverse. I lived in Northern Arizona for a while and every time it snowed the tourists from California and Southern Arizona had no clue what to do in it. So many cars in snow banks, just so many. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the American Southwest that knows what to do in Sand storms, Blizzards, and Thunder storms.
in reply to Maggoty

I have trialed by fire for sand, snow, and thunderstorms. Though I also drive a Cherokee so snow and more specifically black ice is a pain regardless.
in reply to MicroWave

Both want politics for the rich, but tell you that they act in your favor.
in reply to MicroWave

The rest of the world might need to bring the US to heel. We're exporting hate and racism as a means to build fascist states around the world. Our rich are so rich and protected by the US military that they are becoming untethered from all remaining constraints about law and sovereignty for other countries.

Here be dragons.

in reply to azimir

Yeah it’s weird because you can both see Russia as an exporter of hate, but the US is on it too. I guess before late everyone will be on it.
in reply to MicroWave

Moderator warning: calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated is a violation of Lemmy.world ToS.
in reply to Ithorian

Just hop to another instance that doesn't have the same difficulties as .world. Reddit 2.0 on Lemmy requires us to be compliant.
in reply to SoleInvictus

Or that user could just set up his own instance and face all the possible liability issues himself.
in reply to Cliff

Exactly. A large portion of the .world user base is from North America and doesn't realize .world isn't based on the United States.
in reply to Flying Squid

calling for Elon Musk or anyone else to be assassinated


Yeah but we can discuss it without saying it should happen, right? (not trying to be a dick about this, honestly)

in reply to mPony

Yes. That is fine. There's a difference between saying "this sort of thing could lead to Elon being killed" and "Elon deserves a bullet in the head." The issue is with the latter, which has been a big problem in this thread. It is not legal to do that in the Netherlands, where the server is based.
in reply to Flying Squid

Thanks, Flying Squid. I appreciate the clarification.
in reply to mPony

No problem. I'm always happy to clarify such things.
in reply to Flying Squid

There was a time where the US were shooting Nazis instead of putting them in charge. Is it really bad to wish those times came back?
in reply to MicroWave

Elon: "Why are they considered far-right? They don't look far-right to me!"

Also Elon:
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in reply to rustydrd

It's pretty much comes down to

Do they support trans people and trans rights?

Yes: Woke mind virus.

No: TAKE MY MONEY!

That's why he's in right wing politics now, he's said as much. His trans daughter, who he dead names, was "stolen" from him.

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in reply to NotMyOldRedditName

I highly doubt that he ever had a real connection to his children in the first place.
in reply to Cliff

Well, he did use one of his kids as a human shield repeatedly when appearing in public after Luigi crossed one of their guys off the board. That's kind of a connection?
in reply to rustydrd

As a believer in Horseshoe Theory (Just hang around a tankie long enough, you will too)

I'm really hoping these people somehow wrap around to being left.... I mean that won't happen because the Horseshoe only bends one way, but damn.

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lemmy - Collegamento all'originale
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In case you are unaware, when a racist says “globalist” they are not talking about worldwide events, the word “globalist” is a direct replacement for the word “Jew [derogatory]”.
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It's a bit of both. They (often) think globalism is being pushed by the jews for the sake of.... jews gaining power? The reason tends to change from person to person, but the point is they often think globalism is a Jewish plot.
in reply to MicroWave

Meanwhile Tesla sales are down in Europe 28% despite an increase in overall EV sales.
in reply to SulaymanF

For the month maybe, but its possible imports are gonna be higher in December for various shipping reasons. Monthly numbers aren't always good indicators and have always been used to attack Tesla even when they were growing, not to say it might not be a preview of whats to come either. It's around 15% YTD.
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in reply to SulaymanF

That's what I said.
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in reply to NotMyOldRedditName

Oh you meant it was down YTD. I was confusing you with one of the Tesla defenders who are claiming record growth.
in reply to SulaymanF

I mean maybe they have record growth for a month or two in a very specific region, like this one really bad month in the EU but ya not happening this year. It's gonna take a huge Q4 push to not be down globally YTD but maybe they'll squeak a tiny tiny growth out.
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in reply to MicroWave

In semi-related news, the defences around the German Constitutional Court were just reinforced.
in reply to MicroWave

Can't say that I'm surprised. Both are pro-RuSSian trolls and just absolute morons in general, but it's still pretty interesting, because the AfD absolutely hates EVs and prefers RuSSian oil imports. I honestly think that Musk just isn't aware of their EV politics, and it makes all of this so much funnier 😂
in reply to Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼

Elon's actually come out against EV subsidies. It seems counter intuitive until you realize he's so detached from any one product that the power he's derived from his wealth is more important now.
in reply to Maggoty

Tesla sells their EVs as technical avantgarde and elitist sports cars. When EVs become commonplace, they'll face serious competition. People won't be content with their mediocre build quality and terrible ergonomics any longer. Musk countering EV subsidies is deeply based in reality.
in reply to Maggoty

At this point it's not about the money, it's about ~~THE METS BABY!~~

It's about feeling like he's in charge. At this point he's so drunk on attention and power that he'd order a nuclear strike on his own daddy's Emerald Mines if he thought it'd make him look like a big man.

in reply to MicroWave

He seems to not mind if someone would cut a swastika into his forehead.
in reply to MicroWave

on the same day that an anti islam afd supporter committed a terrorist attack on a christmas market even

elon sure can pick them

in reply to katy ✨

In case someone needs to read the story:

dw.com/en/magdeburg-christmas-…

An anti-islam, ex-muslim, pro-afd, rams a car into christmas market killing atleast 4 people so far.

in reply to just_an_average_joe

I know far-right extremists aren't the sharpest bunch or the most well-adjusted but I'm trying and failing to understand the reasoning behind ramming a christmass market as an anti-Islam action.
in reply to ours

It seems like he had a lot of trouble with state agencies and the justice system lately. He probably snapped and just wanted to hurt people. I don't think this was an action that was supposed to send a message beyond "the system broke me so everyone must suffer"
in reply to ours

Maybe to increase religious tensions? He was very anti-muslim, and hated germany for enabling "islamization of europe".

So probably in his mind, if he, being saudi, were to attack a christian related event just before the election, it would snowball into some anti-muslim winning election thus him getting what he wanted.

in reply to just_an_average_joe

The site doesnt load for me but afaik it was a 50 year old doctor from saudi arabia that committed the attack. Allegedly, he was unhappy with the treatment oft refugees.

Also, it would make little sense for someone whos pro-afd to attack a Christmas market

in reply to Realitätsverlust

He had a website to help women escape Saudi arabia, due to state oppression. He had issues with German state not doing much to stop the spread of islam in germany. He claimed Germany is enabling "islamization of europe".

For context, in may 2024 there was a anti-islam rally, and a refugee tried to attack them and ended up attacking a police officer and killing him. This culminated in a historic rise of anti-islam and anti-immigrant AfD. And they won the state election in Thuringia in September.

Germany currently has federal elections in February, this attack was an attempt to incite anti-islam sentiment again just before the election.

He was pro-immigrant for ex-muslims, but anti-immigrant for muslim ones (which happen to be the majority).

in reply to just_an_average_joe

I am german, so I am well aware of the entire situation here.

However, I don't feel you can call someone pro-AfD simply because he was opposed to islam. Again, someone who was pro-AfD wouldn't have chosen to attack a christmas market, but instead a mosque or something.

If I look through my political beliefs, there are very likely a few things in the AfD manifesto that I agree with. That doesn't make me pro-AfD. Just as there will be a few things in the green party manifesto I agree with, which does not make me pro-green.

Calling him pro-AfD is a fairly disgusting attempt of framing imo.

in reply to Realitätsverlust

When i call him pro afd, i am quoting this article: dw.com/en/magdeburg-christmas-…
in reply to MicroWave

Is that he has those Black Sun ghouls following him everywhere now?
in reply to MicroWave

Elon truly is the embodiment of cancer wow. First Nigel farage and now AfD.
in reply to MicroWave

Did people also saw Hitler like that before he got in power?

"Oh look that bozo doing shit again" and then bam, the bozo is the head of state?

in reply to Jack

I mean, have you ever really looked at him without the hindsight knowledge of what nazi germany would be like? he's so fucking lame.
in reply to Jack

Maybe? He did try to take power once, failed, went to prison for like a year and then got right back to it.
in reply to Jack

People didn't think of him in that light till WW2 started.

Before that he was actually beloved by most, so much so that when he annexed Poland, the rest of Europe and America basically went "Aww shucks"

in reply to Jack

Unfortunately I'm fairly sure that particular monster actually had some sense of charisma and strength-projection. I'm sure people still saw through it, but couldn't say much because he was considered a "world leader" with the rest of em.

This, of course, was before the grand spectacle that was reality television, so now our megalomaniacal monsters simply have to generate interesting headlines and do bozo nonsense to attempt world takeover.

I'm legit surprised MrBeast or a Kardashian hasn't attempted to buy rulership over a smaller country at this point. You know, just for the views.

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in reply to MonkeMischief

Well that is the thing, musk just did and not a smaller county.
in reply to MicroWave

Are we allowed to discuss the many many benefits that society might receive if Elon Musk were in fact assassinated?
in reply to xenomor

I’d be, with extremely little resistance, willing to listen to your argument. Tread heavily if you dare.
in reply to xenomor

Sure would be nice if he just dropped dead of natural causes.
in reply to MicroWave

One of their supports just murdered 2 and insured 60 when he drove his car into a Christmas market...
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in reply to MicroWave

Over/under on months before spacex is manufacturing missles to arm these groups?
in reply to MicroWave

Say goodbye to western style democracies! Say hello to Russia style pseudo-democracies!
in reply to ZILtoid1991

Depends how western. For americans Russia is on the west.
in reply to MicroWave

So Musk really is just going full Bond-esk super villain with world domination right? That's what this is? He doesn't have to win any election so long as he can just buy every government, which he can then ensure he owns all the money, to buy more...
in reply to CaptPretentious

See, this is why I don't mind George Soros, a billionaire, is funding left wing causes. Too much of the rich class is disproportionately funding the right. Fight fire with fire.