Linux or Windows.
Does anybody know if when using Windows on a computer but not paying for anything windows related: is windows/ Bill Gates profiting from it?
Is it worth installing linux as a protest?
Is it worth installing linux as a protest?
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Linux Mint is the most Windows-like regarding its user interface, so that one probably requires the least learning. Ubuntu is trying to work a bit like Mac OS X, and I actually like that.
And then there are distros that don't try to be super easy but actively try to help you learn how to do the difficult things. Arch Linux is famous for that.
Ubuntu (and Linux Mint, which is actually just Ubuntu with a more Windows-like user interface) have the best app support, so that might be a factor.
loaExMachina
in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •The way I see it, using these software, even without paying anything and even if you could somehow shield your data from telemetry, strengthens their hegemony.
Growing the pool of users in Open Source project, talking about them, maybe filing bug reports if needed, helps make them more viable. The growing user count makes developers more enticed to release software for these platforms.
I don't think Microsoft's hegemony suffers a lot from losing a user .. But they do suffer slightly more from Linux gaining a user.
nimble
in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Old versions of windows 10 will stop getting security updates later this year (October? ) so you will be running an insecure system or be supporting windows 11.
So yes, it is worth installing Linux
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Based on your country microsoft will run a varying amount of ads in the OS, and as mentioned by other users: telemetry.
Is it worth installing Linux as a protest?
Depends. Switching to Linux will always come with a little bit of tinkering involved. So the answer depends on your willingness to spend some time to learn a new OS.
But it offers you the opportunity to gain some control over your machine, privacy and learn some things.
Liljekonvalj
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •From my experience (Linux Mint exclusively) you might need to edit config files, fiddle with drivers and packages, and compatibility software like wine, lutris etc.
ChatGPT proofed quite helpfull with most of these tasks, and there are passionate ppl on lemmy ready to help you out.
Gaming is in a great spot imo. I can run abt 90% of my steam games thanks to proton, and I was pleasently surprised that some EA games ran without the EA client.
Competetive games on the other hand are a bit of a gamble since most of them don't have an anti cheat solution for Linux and won't run.
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • •I just finished installing Wine (which, as the name itself says, is not a Windows emulator). If you really need to run a Windows application, Wine will do the trick for many apps you may need. So, my suggestion is: switch to Linux, find any alternative for your needs, and, in case you don't find some alternative apps, install Wine and get rid of Microsoft once for all.
You don't really need Microsoft at all.
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Proton kinda is that already. I mean it's not technically doing "emulation" (it's based on WINE, which literally stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator"), but it is a reimplementation and translation layer of the Windows API, such that Windows games can run in Linux.
Anyway, it works fine (except for kernel-level anti-cheat) and has done for quite a while now.
Also, to answer your original question: absolutely you should use Linux. Everyone should, including US folks, because Windows is literally malware. Don't even run it in a VM, let alone on the bare metal machine.
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Oh, don't worry about games. With Steam's Proton, they work like a charm (there are exceptions of coarse, but the majority does). Sometimes even better than on Windows. For non-Steam games there are options as well.
The biggest problem I've seen people struggle with when migrating from Windows to Linux is that they do things the Windows way, but this is a different operating system, so obviously it doesn't work and they get frustrated. The hardest part of switching to Linux is being able to and willing to learn how to use a computer again, but from a different perspective.
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Just install Steam or GoG and play the games through those. Then all the configuration work is done by the Steam/GoG crew. You just buy the game, install it and play, out of the box. About a quarter of Steam's games work on Linux. The only thing I miss is something akin to Skyrim or Witcher. Factorio works and Stellaris works, so I'm happy 😀
EDIT: Ok, Steam's American. But GoG is Polish.
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in reply to Liljekonvalj • • •Windows is not making money on sales only. They collect data and then they sell them to data brokers. Those brokers then sell the data to advertisement agencies to serve you adds. Even if you buy just one item based on those adds (which may be unconscious choice) you have already paid. Even if you buy nothing based on adds, microsoft already got the money.
I do recommend linux but be aware of letting people to push you into something you don't want to do. Linux community can be very enthusiastic 😅. Top three to recommend are Linux Mint (most windows like design), Fedora (most stable) and Pop OS (best with nvidia gpu). Only one of these is favorite of mine but I will not tell you which, just search for them, look at screenshots and you will see what suits you.
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in reply to Jrockwar • • •Ubuntu Linux is the most popular distribution but it uses the Gnome desktop by default, which many Windows users may find to be a stumbling block since it looks and acts nothing like the Windows desktop. The standard distribution of Linux Mint uses the Cinnamon desktop, which is much closer in look and feel to Windows, and it is based on Ubuntu so most users can benefit from the technical support of the Ubuntu community.
[Edit: corrected "Linux" to "Ubuntu Linux." thanks grue@lemmy.world.]
grue
in reply to anime_ted • • •Just use Kubuntu.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of it or anything (especially because of the "snap" nonsense), but it is the easiest to get working because things like Steam officially support it.
anime_ted
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in reply to anime_ted • • •You don't have to reconfigure it, though. I know it's not a very "Linux-y" thing to say, but it really is okay to just install it and then leave it alone.
I myself have done basically nothing to my Plasma configuration except changing to a dark theme and setting my own wallpaper.
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in reply to dieTasse • • •That's good to know and I'm happy you've had success moving users. Keep up the good work.
I think converting users to Linux tends to face three major issues:
Technical people like me tend, I think, to appreciate the flexibility. Normals just want something that works immediately and without any fuss.
dieTasse
in reply to anime_ted • • •Thank you. Your points are... well.. on point 😁 Especially with "and the fact that there are as many opinions as there are users" maybe that's why we have so many distros.
I hope there will be more devices with linux out of the box in the future, because that is probably the number 1 enabler. We see it with steam deck, although its kinda special case. But that is a Linux device that people buy, use and often times without prior linux experience.
dieTasse
in reply to Jrockwar • • •My personal issue with ubuntu itself is that it is a little bit rough around the edges and then there is this whole snap thing. But I don't want to go into that here. It was just a recommendation and yes ubuntu is fine 😀
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in reply to Jrockwar • • •On Ubuntu:
lemm.ee/post/37682729
What are the problems with Ubuntu?
CubitOom
in reply to dieTasse • • •I think the most windows like desktop environment (DE) is KDE. So I try to limit my windows to
Switcher recommends to distros that use KDE by default.
So my recommendations would be:
- KDE neon (Ubuntu/Debian based)
- Fedora KDE (Fedora)
- EndeavourOS (Arch based, least noob friendly)
I would also recommend they do some poking around DistroSea
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