Protest vote
[orange dude, angry, fist raised]
I will protest against both sides of the evil capitalist elites that are ruining society by voting for an anti-system extreme!
[pink gal, looking candid]
Since your protest is based on human values and a desire for more social justice, this means you're going to vote far left?
[pink gal, looking scared]
Isn't that right?…
[orange dude starts laughing so hard tears comes from his eyes and his hairpiece starts flying]
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Volkswagen takes €1.3bn hit from ‘high costs’ of Trump tariffs
The German car manufacturer Volkswagen has said Donald Trump’s US import tariffs have cost it more than £1bn in the first half of the year.
Volkswagen said it had made strong progress realigning the company, which is considering cutting 35,000 jobs by 2030, but that it had suffered a €1.3bn (£1.13bn) “decline in operating result primarily due to high costs from increased US import tariffs”.
The company has also reduced its profit margin range to be between 4% and 5% for the year, based on an assumption that tariffs of between 10%, at best, and the current 27.5%, at worst, will be made permanent by the US president.
Volkswagen takes €1.3bn hit from ‘high costs’ of Trump tariffs
Manufacturer cuts profit margin range for year as German car exports to US fall sharplyLisa O’Carroll (The Guardian)
‘We’re terribly sorry’: South Park creators respond with humour to White House anger over naked Donald Trump
South Park co-creator Trey Parker had the briefest of responses on Thursday to anger from the White House over the latest season premiere, which showed a naked Donald Trump in bed with Satan.
“We’re terribly sorry,” Parker said, followed by a long, deadpan-comic stare.
‘We’re terribly sorry’: South Park creators respond with humour to White House anger over naked Donald Trump
Speaking at Comic-Con on Thursday, Trey Parker and Matt Stone revealed they spent days negotiating with producers to show the US president’s genitalsSian Cain (The Guardian)
Israel Is Now Blaming the UN for Its Famine. Here’s the Reality.
Clearly sensing a turning-point in world opinion, as the death toll from starvation mounts exponentially in Gaza, Israel brought dozens of sympathetic journalists to a crossing to wage a PR campaign on Thursday.
The Israeli government has pivoted to a new deflection: The famine in Gaza is not the result of Israel’s publicly announced March 2 blockade of all food entering Gaza, nor is it connected to the Israeli- and U.S.-backed Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF), which replaced the UNRWA aid system Israel shut down with its own militarized version in late May. Instead, according to the new Israeli campaign, the blame lies with the United Nations. “Hundreds of aid trucks have entered Gaza with Israel’s approval, but the supplies are standing idle, undelivered,” the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs declared on X. “The reason? The UN refuses to distribute the aid.”
The focal point of the Israeli accusation against the UN is a collection of some 900 aid trucks that have already crossed into Gaza but which have been unable to distribute the aid. Yet Israel has actively prevented the UN from distributing aid. Tamara Alrifai, a spokesperson for UNRWA, told Drop Site that Israeli restrictions on the movement of the organization’s staff have made distribution impossible. “Claiming that the UN isn’t picking up food and other urgent supplies, and promoting images that these goods are just sitting near the crossing is disingenuous to say the least,” she said.
Israel Is Now Blaming the UN for Its Famine. Here’s the Reality.
A man-made famine is imminent in Gaza and its people require at least 600 trucks a day to stave it off, as Israel deflects blame to the UN.Ryan Grim (Drop Site News)
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Starlink outage overnight affects Ukrainian military, prompts calls to diversify
Separately, Reuters reported that Elon Musk’s Starlink systems used by Ukrainian military units were down for two and a half hours overnight, a senior commander said, part of a global issue that disrupted the satellite internet provider.
Starlink experienced one of its biggest international outages on Thursday when an internal software failure knocked tens of thousands of users offline, the agency reported.
The commander of Ukraine’s drone forces, Robert Brovdi, later said the incident had highlighted the risk of reliance on the systems, and called for communication and connectivity methods to be diversified.
Ukraine looks to secure funding for 10 Patriot air defence systems and discusses meeting with Putin – Europe live
Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy says country is trying to find sponsors for air systems and that negotiators discussed him meeting PutinJakub Krupa (The Guardian)
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Maybe drops open-source support - pivots to B2B data and scenario planning
The team behind Maybe just released version v0.6.0, and with it announced a major shift: the project is officially moving away from open-source development and pivoting to a B2B-focused model.
From now on, Maybe will focus on enterprise-grade data analysis and scenario planning tools for businesses. As a result, there will be no further updates, maintenance, or community support
This marks the end of Maybe as a public, code-based personal finance tool.
If you’ve been using it personally, v0.6.0 is the final release. You can keep using it as-is, but don’t expect updates.
Release v0.6.0 · maybe-finance/maybe
Farewell... Maybe 👋 TL;DR Maybe is pivoting to B2B financial forecasting and scenario planning and as a company, will no longer be actively maintaining this repository. What this means: This fina...GitHub
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AI Won't Solve Your Existential Crisis (And That's Perfectly Fine)
AI Won’t Solve Your Existential Crisis (And That’s Perfectly Fine)
Silicon Valley’s latest gospel sounds almost mystical. Artificial intelligence will rescue the West from demographic collapse, bloated welfare systems, and innovation-stifling regulations.Eli Grid (GazeOn)
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If y'all don't think this guys wasn't under surveillance the entire time....
At very min, counter intelligence monitors all of these regime whores. They just got extra hands on deck with a few political komissars helping the national security spooks
I love this.
James Comey was a huge fan of surveillance laws, and tried to get backdoors into encryption. Maybe now he appreciates the value of privacy more than he used to.
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Confirmed: ChatGPT uses Google Snippets for its Answers [A Test with Proof]
Confirmed: ChatGPT uses Google SERP Snippets for its Answers [A Test with Proof]
I've run a simple but straight-forward to follow test that confirms the reliance of ChatGPT on Google SERPs snippets for its answers.Aleyda Solis (Aleyda Solis - International SEO Consultant, Founder, Author & Speaker)
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Humanity check causing app issues
I fired up Blorp this morning and not comments or new stories would load.
I also have Interstellar installed, so I tried that and I only got this message:
So I tried in my browser. I saw the humanity check ever so briefly, but then was moved along to the site. After that, I was able to refresh Interstellar and it worked. Blorp needed a restart, but looks okay now too.
Less a question than a report...
This bill would fine social media companies $5 million every day for not fighting 'terrorism'
New bill would fine social media companies $5 million every day for not fighting 'terrorism'
The STOP HATE Act wants social media platforms to report their moderation policies and outcomes to the government.Matthew Petti (Reason.com)
AI Should Help Fund Creative Labor
AI Should Help Fund Creative Labor
Mariana Mazzucato & Fausto Gernone show how today’s innovation economy exploits the very people it relies on and propose a fairer system.Project Syndicate
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Lots of fluff in this article and the site itself sucks. Here's the key paragraph:
One way to achieve this would be to impose a levy on the gross revenues of the largest AI providers, collected by a national or multilateral agency. As the technology becomes increasingly embedded in daily life and production processes, the revenue flowing to AI firms is bound to grow – and so, too, will contributions to the fund. These resources could then be distributed by independent grant councils on multiyear cycles, ensuring that support reaches a wide range of disciplines and regions.
My biggest issue with this approach is that it fails to acknowledge that AI is a bubble currently propped up by venture capital. In 1-4 years all those investors are going to want their ROI, and AI companies are going to start turning the money crank hard.
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There's also no way to really tell what the "cost" of generative AI is on creative fields, or any way to determine who gets what money. There aren't going to be enough grants to cover every small, independent artist whose work is buried beneath mountains of AI slop
And like, the obvious issue is who is going to enforce this? Pretty much every government has been cozying up with the billionaire tech bros that run AI companies and will fight tooth and nail against any legislation like this proposal
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Nyamerican Jacket – Where Modern America Meets Timeless Fashion
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Arrestate Mussolini. Oggi, 25 luglio, nel 1943, i carabinieri - dopo il suo colloquio con il Re - detengono l'ormai ex Capo del Governo e Duce del fascismo
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Russia’s war against Ukraine
This photograph, taken on July 24, 2025, shows a damaged residential building following a drone attack in Odesa, amid the Russian invasion in Ukraine. (Oleksandr Gimanov / AFP via Getty Images)
War with Russia could last until 2034, Ukraine’s ex-top general Zaluzhnyi warns. “If we try to establish a ceasefire without building up our future defenses, the war will drag on for many more years,” former Commander-in-Chief Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.
Global Starlink outage disrupts Ukrainian front lines. Starlink experienced a global outage on July 24, with the cause still unknown. Ukraine’s military confirmed the disruption affected connectivity along the front lines.
Over 23,000 civilians, 113 children trapped in active combat zones in Donetsk Oblast, official says. Ukrainian and Western military experts assess that Russia may escalate its offensive operations during the 50-day period U.S. President Donald Trump allocated for Moscow to reach a ceasefire settlement.
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Over 1,300 residents remain in embattled Pokrovsk, governor says. Vadym Filashkin said the situation in the region is growing more difficult by the day as Russian forces intensify their offensive.
Russia plans sweeping gasoline export ban to stabilize domestic market, sources tell Reuters. The Russian government has resorted to temporary gasoline export bans multiple times over the past two years, typically to address domestic fuel shortages and alleviate high prices.
Anti-corruption
‘We all hear what society is saying’ — Zelensky vows anti-corruption plan within 2 weeks amid backlash over controversial bill. “We see what people expect from state institutions — ensured justice and the effective functioning of each institution,” President Volodymyr Zelensky said.
Zelensky submits new bill restoring anti-graft agencies’ independence after protests. The bill follows Zelensky’s decision on July 22 to sign a bill that effectively destroyed the independence of the National Anti-Corruption Bureau (NABU) and the Specialized Anti-Corruption Prosecutor’s Office (SAPO).
US Senator Lindsey Graham criticises Zelensky’s signing of controversial anti-corruption law. Lindsey urged Kyiv to reconsider the law as “one of the most widely used talking points for ending support for Ukraine is that it was awash with corruption.”
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Ukraine war latest: China covertly supplying drone engines to Russia despite sanctions, Reuters reports
Beijing is reportedly circumventing Western sanctions by discreetly shipping Chinese-made drone engines to a state-owned Russian manufacturer, labeling them as “industrial refrigeration units” to avoid detection.
Photo: Zvezda / Rutube
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Invisible prisoners — the struggle to free thousands of Ukrainians in Russian captivity
Since the start of Russia’s war against Ukraine in 2014, Ukrainians in the occupied territories have been subject to illegal detentions, brutal interrogations, convictions in an unrecognized legal system, and torture.
Photo: Dominique Faget / AFP via Getty Images
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Marjorie Taylor Greene is spreading lies about Ukraine’s protests. Russia is taking note
Thousands of citizens rallied in cities across the country on the first night with a clear goal: to urge Volodymyr Zelensky to veto a bill passed in parliament that guts anti-corruption reforms, and to express anger with recent government attacks on anti-corruption figures.
Photo: Danylo Antoniuk / The Kyiv Independent
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Georgian-Ukrainian music festival ICKPA returns to Kyiv amid shared resistance to Russian imperialism
Founded in 2021 by a local Ukrainian team and the Georgian club Bassiani, ICKPA (pronounced “Iskra” which means “Spark” in Ukrainian) was envisioned as an annual event, aimed at amplifying the voices of creative communities from Eastern European countries.
Photo: ICKPA
Human cost of Russia’s war
Russian glide bombs strike Kharkiv residential high-rise building, injuring at least 41. Some people were trapped beneath the rubble of the multi-story building, Governor Oleh Syniehubov said.
Russian attacks kill 4, injure 33 over past day, damaging UNESCO-protected landmarks in Odesa. Kharkiv Oblast saw the highest number of civilians affected by Russian attacks, which killed three people and injured five others.
International response
Von der Leyen urges China to press Putin to engage seriously in Ukraine-Russia peace talks. “China has an influence on Russia, like the European Union has an influence on Ukraine,” European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen said.
US approves $330 million in military sales to Ukraine for artillery, air defense support. The U.S. State Department has approved two proposed military sales to Ukraine, valued at a combined $330 million, to bolster the country’s artillery and air defense systems, the agency announced on July 24.
Netherlands, OSCE seek investigation into Russian torture of Ukrainian POWs. The Netherlands and 40 other OSCE member states have formally called for an independent investigation into the torture and mistreatment of Ukrainian prisoners of war by Russian forces, Dutch Foreign Minister Caspar Veldkamp announced July 24.
Indian company sent explosives to Russia despite US warnings, Reuters reports. Among the Russian companies listed as recipients of the explosive substance octogen, also known as HMX, is Promsintez, an explosives producer that has ties to the Russian military, a Ukrainian Security Service official told Reuters.
Opinions and insights
I was 18 when I protested at EuroMaidan. I’m proud of new generation protesting now
“Seeing this evolution of Ukrainian society made me emotional and very proud. All these years of standing up on squares and then on the battlefield weren’t for nothing if this is what Ukraine is now,” writes Toma Istomina,
deputy chief editor at The Kyiv Independent.
Photo: Arsen Dzodzaiev / Global Images Ukraine via Getty Images
In other news
Ukrainian MP, businessman Yaroslav Rushchyshyn dies in motorcycle accident. Yaroslav Rushchyshyn, a Ukrainian member of parliament, entrepreneur, and cultural figure, died following a motorcycle accident, his family confirmed to local media outlet Tvoye Misto on July 25.
Kolomoisky embezzlement case to be sent to court. Kolomoisky, the former owner of Ukraine’s largest bank PrivatBank, and five of his associates were charged in 2023 with money laundering and fraud. They are accused of embezzling Hr 9.2 billion ($250 million) from PrivatBank.
Russia deploys additional electronic warfare systems near Estonian border. The systems, deployed near the Russian town of Kingisepp — roughly 20 kilometers (around 12 miles) from Estonia’s eastern border — are designed to jam communications, disrupt radar systems, and assert control over the electromagnetic spectrum.
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Russia deploys additional electronic warfare systems near Estonian border
The systems, deployed near the Russian town of Kingisepp — roughly 20 kilometers (around 12 miles) from Estonia's eastern border — are designed to jam communications, disrupt radar systems, and assert control over the electromagnetic spectrum.Tim Zadorozhnyy (The Kyiv Independent)
Changes to Bitnami Catalog on August 28th
Hey there selfhosters,
I imagine some of you are selfhosting Kubernetes and that you might have used some Bitnami images/helmchars.
Bitnami communicated recently about some changes in their catalog [here] (github.com/bitnami/charts/issu…), and will be effective at the end of August.
For the simple version, they are migrating images from docker.io/bitnami to docker.io/bitnamilegacy, implying some changes there.
But to be expected is that at some point even docker.io/bitnamilegacy will be removed (or of course pay a license to them to access their “secure” images)
I was wondering if someone was affected by this ?
Cheers !
Upcoming changes to the Bitnami catalog (effective August 28th, 2025)
📢 Overview As of August 28th, 2025, the Bitnami public catalog will undergo the following changes: Community catalog Disable images generation for Debian-based images and gradually move existing on...wjimenez5271 (GitHub)
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Many helm charts, like authentik or forgejo integrate bitnami helmcharts for their databases. So that's why this is concerning to me,
But, I was planning to switch to operators like cloudnativepostgres for my databases instead and disable the builtin bitnami images. When using the builtin bitnami images, automatic migration between major releases is not supported, you have to do it yourself manually and that dissapointed me.
McDonald's Combines the Worst of AI & Job Hunting
cross-posted from: lemmygrad.ml/post/8611451
Well-said about how the courts treat data privacy and doxxing.Your thoughts?
It's a nice commentary / news video.
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.youtube.com
Can The Kremlin Finally Get Russians To Stop Using YouTube? Not Yet.
Can The Kremlin Finally Get Russians To Stop Using YouTube? Not Yet.
Russian officials have spent years laying the groundwork for a “managed” Internet that authorities could control and surveil. Pushing Russians away from hugely popular YouTube is key.Mike Eckel (RFE/RL)
Porn websites now require age verification in the UK – the privacy and security risks are numerous
Porn websites now require age verification in the UK – the privacy and security risks are numerous
Online age verification technology is not as mature and safe as government and regulators would like it to be.The Conversation
[Epic] *Doodle Mafia: Epic Alchemy*, crime-themed element combining game
Touch the world of crime, chaos, and clever combos!
Crime Does Pay!Play as a Gangster or Cop.
Over 500 Puzzles to Solve & Items to Create
WATCH YOUR CRIME CITY COME ALIVE AS YOU PLAY!
Doodle Mafia is the biggest “Doodle” game ever! Over 500 puzzles to solve and items to create as you play the role of Crime Boss or Cop. You decide how you want to play as you play through multiple hard-nosed storylines & play modes.
As you build your Gang and make your fortune you must evade the Cops as well as fight off rival games in order to become the “Big Boss” of the City. In the “City” mode watch your Crime City come alive as you successfully pull off heists, escape the Cops or beat-off rival gangs. But you gotta watch your back because behind every corner there is a good Cop trying to make a name for himself or a rival Gangster trying to take your turf!
In the “Campaign” mode, nab the bad guys or pull off heists to build your fortune. Can you successfully rob the bank and escape the Cops? Are you tough enough to defeat the rival boss and be the Crime Big Boss of the City? We shall see how good you are….
Remember Crime Does Pay!
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Keir Starmer under pressure to recognise Palestinian statehood
Keir Starmer under pressure to recognise Palestinian statehood
It comes as French President Emmanuel Macron said France would recognise statehood in September.Paul Seddon (BBC News)
New Android POS at work has 4 notifications but I can't clear them because their MDM locks the notification bar.
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Nessun uomo sano di mente pensa con la testa.
In cui solo persone folli corrono per più di 100Miglia (163km). Se dovessi pensare con la testa credo che correrei 5km ogni, me in certi casi è meglio che la testa non pensi altrimenti non si farebbe nulla di nulla. Lasciamoci andare, anche nella corsa. La testa è un limitatore a volte...Buone corse
Cosa vuole ottenere Macron riconoscendo la Palestina?
https://domandalo.com/cosa-vuole-macron-riconosce-palestina/
Atoms For Peace - Amok (2013)
È ormai un dato di fatto: Thom Yorke è un moderno re Mida della musica contemporanea, perchè tutto ciò su cui mette mano, anche se non è proprio barocco, sfarzoso e luccicante come l’oro, di sicuro è di grande valore musicale... Leggi e ascolta...
Atoms For Peace - Amok (2013)
È ormai un dato di fatto: Thom Yorke è un moderno re Mida della musica contemporanea, perchè tutto ciò su cui mette mano, anche se non è proprio barocco, sfarzoso e luccicante come l’oro, di sicuro è di grande valore musicale. E Amok ne è l’ennesima conferma. Tutto questo nonostante Thom in questa tornata abbia assunto un ruolo piuttosto defilato nel processo creativo, che stando ai racconti dei componenti del gruppo è stato di una sorta di collettiva, mistica session che si è protratta quasi ininterrottamente per pochi ma intensi giorni... rocklab.it/2013/04/03/atoms-fo…
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Atoms for Peace - Amok | Rocklab.it
E anche se Amok non rivolta come un calzino l'attuale panorama musicale, è un album di ottima qualità, minimale e profondo allo stesso tempo; un'esperienza di ascolto decisamente unica, originale e appagante, che potrebbe esserlo anche per chi (a gra…Rocklab.it
WA's farming community rallies to help drought-hit SA
Love to see Aussies helping each other out just because it's the right thing to do.
"Today you. Tomorrow me."
ABC News
ABC News provides the latest news and headlines in Australia and around the world.Tara de Landgrafft (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
If you dual-boot different distributions and want to keep old versions of distros for upgrades, how do you proceed?
Say you are dual-booting Debian and Arch and want to upgrade Debian oldstable to Debian stable. But you want to keep the old installation available as a fall-back option. And you also want to re-use your configuration files and dot files, but in a way that incompatible changes to your dot files in the new Debian or Arch version do never break the old program versions.
How do you do that ?
(I describe my own approach in a comment below.)
- having a second system that boots can be very handy if something breaks - for example one can chroot intp the other system and fix a missing grub install
- when disk space becomes scarce, one csn mount it where it makes sense
No:
1) Every single modern distro keeps multiple known-good previously running copies of the system to boot back into
2) The disk space argument is just insane. Having TWO versions of an OS takes TWICE as much space as having one. I don't even get what you mean. You can mount a disk anywhere at any time
3) No part of any installed Linux distro can get into a state where it cannot be accessed, unless you encrypt or delete your entire disk without thinking
4) BTRFS or ZFS can shift back time or keep snapshots, so none of your reasoning is needed at all. Same with immutable distros.
![[Top panel] OpenAI/GPT says: I apologize for the mistake. There is only **one** R in the word "strawberry." [Bottom panel] The commander of a US submarine says: A $40 million computer tells you there is one "R" in strawberry, but you don't believe it, and you come up with this on your own?](https://poliverso.org/photo/preview/640/54038613 "[Top panel] OpenAI/GPT says: I apologize for the mistake. There is only **one** R in the word \"strawberry.\" [Bottom panel] The commander of a US submarine says: A $40 million computer tells you there is one \"R\" in strawberry, but you don't believe it, and you come up with this on your own?")
For anyone looking for an invitation to access China's new AI (Manus Im), here’s an invitation!
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Manus! Китайский ИИ, который меняет правила игры: вы уже попробовали?
Если вы уже пользовались этой ИИ, расскажите, пожалуйста, каков ваш опыт разработки приложений для компьютера с её помощью? Насколько удобно и эффективно оказалось использовать Manus для таких задач?
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È ovviamente ironico ma, anche per via del mio nuovo Papiellify che mi sta tenendo letteralmente le mani occupate, adesso sto scrivendo meno papielli della roba mia qui sopra… peccato. Ma va bene, suppongo ci sia comunque tempo per scrivere un piccolo aggiornamento, prima di andare a letto… tanto, se già ieri sera ho ampiamente […]
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ripaperamento delle pigne nintendiche per mezzo del cartatore (aggiornamenti Papiellify e usi pratici)
È ovviamente ironico ma, anche per via del mio nuovo Papiellify che mi sta tenendo letteralmente le mani occupate, adesso sto scrivendo meno papielli della roba mia qui sopra… peccato. Ma va bene, suppongo ci sia comunque tempo per scrivere un piccolo aggiornamento, prima di andare a letto… tanto, se già ieri sera ho ampiamente ritardato il sonno perché ho come al solito perso la cognizione del tempo a programmare, e la sera prima ugualmente perché dovevo fare gli ultimissimi ritocchi al progetto per l’esame del giorno dopo (…che manco sono serviti, maremma cara), allora stasera posso fare lo stesso dopo essermi liberata dal giogo della carta. 👍In mezzo a questa tale mia disperazione, almeno, c’è qualcosa di buono da vedersi in come, piano piano, tutti i miei strumenti lavorino sempre meglio tra di loro, e come io quindi mi stia avvicinando in modo sempre più comodo ed efficace ai miei piani finali (purtroppo, appunto, a scapito del sonno, ma vabbé). Avendo solo dal giorno prima fatto pace con la creazione di fogli sfiziosi grazie alla previa creazione di Papiellify, infatti, sono potuta tornare qualche attimo a Pignio; che, tra i tanti motivi, come accennai, è stato creato anche per permettermi di raccogliere materiale relativo a schifezze da stampare, oltre ai meme da ospedale psichiatrico… 🦫
E quindi, ieri sera, in un attimo (…talmente tanto “attimo” da avermi fatta andata a mimir un’ora più tardi del normale, e il mio normale è già tardissimo), ho implementato una cosa che avevo stranamente dimenticato dall’inizio, cioè il listino di singole directory del file system… e, lasciando stare che pure stavolta mi sono accorta solo la mattina in produzione di un piccolo difetto nella app (e ormai, con questo progetto, questo schemino è una certezza, sigh), oggi ho potuto godere meglio di quelle 91 immagini che ieri ho caricato in blocco sulla piattaforma, appunto in una cartella apposita: tutte (?) le carte da lettera di Nintendo Swapdoodle, rigorosamente ottenute tramite screenshot a manina dalla app sul mio 3DS e qui ricaricate violando il copyright (di software oggi non più ufficialmente distribuito)!!! 😍
Quindi, mi sono poi nuovamente messa all’opera sul fronte cartaceo mediato digitalmente, adoperandomi nel tentativo di trasformare una a caso di queste carte da lettera (di cui una gran parte onestamente molto belle e interessanti, e ne godo che ora siano preservate sul mio Pignio) in dei normali fogli per appunti — a dimensione ISO A6, anziché il quadrato di 250×230 pixel che Nintendo ci ha (in)gentilmente concesso, ma per A4 o altro vale lo stesso — e ci sono riuscita. Ho dovuto implementare ancora qualche altra robetta nel fogliatore per farlo, con non poca fatica (e non ho ancora finito…), ma ce l’ho fatta, e trovo sia incredibilmente magico vedere fianco a fianco l’originale immaginetta di dimensioni micragnose e il mio riadattamento — fatto col taglia e cuci, ma pulito, senza stretching… e soprattutto semi-automatico. 😋E si, stavolta la questione è davvero tutta qui, scusate se è poco; non sto banalmente cacciando fuori magie, bensì sto poco a poco riuscendo attivamente a combattere il principio di Murphy per cui non si può mai fare niente senza che qualcos’altro vada fatto prima. Comunque sia, i nuovi piccoli aggiornamenti che insomma ho fatto a Papiellify (assieme ai tanti ancora non discussi per il Pignio, ma vabbé) sono già online… e ho aggiunto pure il modello creato stavolta alla raccolta dei file: memos.octt.eu.org/m/gnwNvbS4zv… (dovrebbe essere l’ultimo in lista). Quindi ora, forse, posso dormire… ma domani c’è da rilegare questi 10 fogli in un quadernino da 40 pagine, quindi il grind per me non finisce mai. 😵
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Throwback Thursday – 2015 Jim Ott Brass Ensemble
With the passing of Chuck Mangione at age 84 today, I’m dedicating this week’s Throwback Thursday to the time I played a Mangione chat, Legend of the One Eyed Sailor, with the Jim Ott Brass Ensemble at the 2015 Drum Corps International World Championships Semifinals.
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A group of us also played at SoundSport the following morning.
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As a bonus, here’s the original performance by the 1976 Blue Devils as they won their first DCI title.
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And, to finish, the original chart.
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Rest in peace, Chuck. I’m glad you saw how much drum corps loved your music.
Jazz legend Chuck Mangione dies: Famed trumpeter and composer was 84
“The family of Chuck Mangione is deeply saddened to share that Chuck peacefully passed away in his sleep at his home in Rochester, New York on July 22, 2025.", USA TODAY (USA TODAY)
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Israel hosting MAGA influencers for propaganda training
Israel is paying to have MAGA social media influencers, with millions of followers, visit Israel to learn how to keep US youth supporting Israel, ignoring Gaza.
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Pam Bondi Pulls Out Of Anti-Trafficking Event Over Medical Issue
The timing is curious, as the Jeffrey Epstein fallout continues to rage on.
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SocialHub developer community: Reboot or Shutdown?
(Originally posted in response to @how's announced ultimatum wrt the future of SocialHub.)
Unless a community team steps up, SocialHub will cease to be ..
@how is urgently asking members of this community to brainstorm and consider options to keep this community not only alive, but make it thrive as one of the grassroots developer centers that help evolve the fediverse.
SocialHub Community Values Policy
Now there’s a deadline: the activitypub.eu domain that hosts this community’s email service expires on September 10, 2025 [..]So, either way the change is coming. I’d rather have it come in a structured way.
In 2019 @how and Petites Singularités graciously took custodianship of SocialHub, and I for one am very thankful for that! I am sure many in the fediverse developer landscape share that gratitude too.
For people reading this and considering community involvement.. when does P.S. plan to give public announcement / responsible disclosure of SocialHub winding down?
SocialHub Community Values Policy
IMO both are necessary. For one, I think I have done my job here, and would like the community to take over.SocialHub
aschrijver:
when does P.S. plan to give public announcement / responsible disclosure of SocialHub winding down?
We are not planning anything. We've been announcing that we'd like this community to self-manage for years. We're now 'giving an ultimatum' as a last resort because supporting work does not seem to be taken into account as long as things run.
I've read elsewhere that I am "dropping". This is not the case. But if you've been here a long time you must have seen that my participation here has faded away, so I want other people to take over before you're all left with a down server and nobody to turn it on again.
trwnh:
Why does the forum need to shut down just because an email domain expires?
It doesn't. But notifications and registration confirmations go through the activitypub.eu domain since we could not get access to the activitypub.rocks domain to manage email there. So if there's now control on activitypub.rocks domain, we could as well move the email there for consistency.
aschrijver:
I consider it to be a matter of custodianship responsibility for P.S. to manage the shutdown in a responsible manner.
We're not shutting down. We want other people to take over. If other people do not take over, then it means nobody wants to take responsibility for it, then it should die.
aschrijver:
mho it would be better to be open for any proposals
No: there is something very political in the way the SocialHub was organized, that fosters collective work and limits to what is acceptable for a community. If fascists want to take over, or people who do not care about privilege and solidarity, then you'll be left with a backup and we'll go away for good. That's the deal IMO. We don't work for years to let this community fall into preying hands.
trwnh:
The value of this SocialHub forum is in bringing people together to discuss things, and the introduction of federation in its current form has been arguably counterproductive to this end. Quite simply, if the discussions about ActivityPub are spread all over random pockets of microblogging, then this is an inferior experience to a proper forum with an actual social context.
aschrijver:
Collect problems that hold the AP dev community back from collaborating and evolve the foundational technologies that the dev ecosystem of the fediverse relies on.
If fedi devs are scattered to the winds, then they did not realize that the SocialHub has been part of the Fediverse for some time, and they should be reminded.
aschrijver:
Objective: Convince @how that responsible custodianship is taken care of, and it is responsible to hand over these tasks to the new community custodians.
I'll be convinced when:
- I'm not the only one keeping the server up-to-date
- Teams are active and not just lists of names
- We're clear about X, Fakebooz (including threads), and other centralized surveillance systems that the Fediverse is not aligned with them, and strives for other forms of online social relationships not based on domination, nudging nor abuse.
The keys are yours.
aschrijver:
Become native to the fediverse. SocialHub is to be part of the fediverse via federation.
Most of it is part of the Fediverse. The #software category is lacking fediversity because software owners didn't federate!
lullis:
I’d also volunteer to host this server if needed.
It's not a hosting issue, and it's not an individual issue. Handling the hosting from a non-profit organization to an individual would not make sense. But thank you for volunteering.
strypey:
@how can you please confirm that we’re understanding this correctly, or correct us if we’re not, so we’re all clear on what the situation is.
I hope this answer is clarifying my position. In other words: either there is a community here, and the community is taking the engagement to take care for itself, and we're good; or there's no community, and this forum is just a drag on my back, and you can do without, so I can shut it down.
The way the community is taking over, is up to you, but my preference would be as stated so far.
jdp23:
On both the “why?” and “what to do about it?”, getting the perspectives of people who aren’t currently here seems key.
We need to federate more, and include the SH groups in the interesting fedi discussions, so that they can be archived here, and not lost in the Fediverse. SH is an archipel, a navigation tool: not a centralizing place. It's easy to add @fep@socialhub.activitypub.rocks to a federated discussion and have a topic created here that includes the ongoing discussion (and there are more AP actors!)
aschrijver:
A viable community is where enough of its members care enough for its continued existence.
aschrijver:
And it’d be great if @how could assign forum moderator or even forum admin privilege to some people so they are enabled to organize and steer this thing along efficiently.
Oh yes, that would be great.
aschrijver:
Yes, the #fediversity::category channel is where one might ponder if it doesn’t make the audience of the community too broad.
I'm very surprised to read this. I really do not understand why the audience would be too broad. I mean, really. Why?
aschrijver:
It is nice to offer dedicated forum space, but most FOSS projects don’t use it.
Indeed. With more people invested in it, they would use it, either from here, or from the Fediverse.
strypey1:
that Loomio thread too.
Isn't Loomio federated? Then why is it not common?
silverpill:
I doubt that things can be improved if the forum changes ownership (the opposite seems more likely)
Can you elaborate on this @silverpill?
strypey:
Given how often PS admins have been incommunicado when thing need fixing or tweaking, and doing facepalm-inducing stuff like threatening to delete most SH accounts
I really do not appreciate your simplification of the situation here @stripey. I find it unfair and quite disrespectful actually. I have been calling for help for years and had to change teams several times over because people actually did not help at all. So putting this on either me or my organization is simply not acceptable.
melvincarvalho:
CPU and RAM requirements. Perhaps someone could tell us the spec of the current server?
It's super small.
<pre><code class="lang-auto">root@socialhub:/var/discourse# df -hFilesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted onudev 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /devtmpfs 382M 656K 382M 1% /run/dev/sda1 38G 23G 14G 64% /tmpfs 1.9G 0 1.9G 0% /dev/shmtmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock/dev/sdb 59G 4.1G 52G 8% /mnt/HC_Volume_26171934tmpfs 382M 0 382M 0% /run/user/1000overlay 59G 4.1G 52G 8% /mnt/HC_Volume_26171934/docker/overlay2/f80df69aa53ab6ed8a502f00bcc4a4d7fedf3434041b596480fbf1b54e549cf8/merged</code></pre> j12t:
For me, the question of “who administers the server” and “who pays the bills” are minor questions that can be solved without much difficulty.
Well, I tried solving these questions collectively since 2019, so I'm very open to concrete steps now
I skipped the last two posts because tl;dr, and had to catch up on the whole discussion at once. Sorry for that. BTW, thank you @aschrijver for standing up again and making this discussion happen.
SocialHub Community Values Policy
The refutation is way earlier… You can read the whole development in Policy Proposal: SocialHub Community Values. It was a long and hard discussion. And the conclusions are here: So you see, even I did not remember that @kaniini finally agreed.SocialHub
Federated SocialHub Categories
SocialHub admins can federate categories, making categories accessible in the fediverse. This is an overview of current ActivityPub actors that you can follow and participate in from the Fediverse.|SocialHub Category | ActivityPub Actor
@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Settings||--- | --- | ---||#activitypub |@protocol@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Full topic as Notes||#activitypub:s2s |@proto-s2s@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Full topic as Notes||#activitypub:c2s |@proto-c2s@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Full topic as Notes||#standards:fep |@feps@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Full topic as Notes||#community |@community@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Full topic as Notes||#fediversity |@fediversity@socialhub.activitypub.rocks| Full topic as Notes|You may find federation information in each federated category on the tools line:
Please reply to this topic:
- to request more ActivityPub actors
- to correct something in the above table
- to report on your experience using these actors
Making categories accessible in the fediverse
Continuing the discussion from SocialCG should consult SocialHub before appropriating tasks: I’m a bit behind on how AP federation works between forums, so I’m not sure what this means.SocialHub
how:
silverpill:I doubt that things can be improved if the forum changes ownership (the opposite seems more likely)
Can you elaborate on this @silverpill?
That's because I don't know anyone who is both interested in running this forum, and is qualified to do that.
First of all, I think it shouldn't be handed to someone who is not an active forum participant.
But in this thread? Many share a strange patronizing attitude towards developers. Like we're sheep incapable of self-organizing that must be herded to some website in order to be educated by wise community managers and spoonfed with linked data slop. Thanks but no. This attitude is absolutely the last thing we need on a developer forum.
In theory, the place can be run by developers themselves, but nowadays most of us use our own software, and we can talk to each other directly without SocialHub in the middle, or via other forums and groups.
At this point I am fairly convinced that shutting down the forum and publishing a static archive is the best option.
silverpill:
we can talk to each other directly without SocialHub in the middle
The SocialHub is not exactly in the middle: it's part of the Fediverse. So it would only be normal that discussions relevant to everyone would be archived here, since they would be transmitted here as well.
But most discussions about fediverse development elsewhere on the fediverse aren't transmitted to SocialHub as well. There's a lot that factors into this, including:
- technology limitations. Kudos to the work that @devnull et al are doing on that front, and there's steady progress, but are there any forum-based spaces that are well-integrated in this way with the broader microblogging fediverse today?
- awareness; some devs don't know that they can tag communities here to create a thread on SocialHub, others know in principle but (since it requires an extra step they don't do on most posts) just don't remember to do it in situations where it would make sense.
- on topics other than FEPs, it's not clear what the value is -- and there are also costs to take into account
One way to look at this is that the initial attempts at SocialHub federation were a prototype that wasn't as broadly useful as hoped but has succeeded in revealing issues that need to be addressed. In another thread you mentioned that right now SocialHub "feels like a failure" because it hasn't able to keep a stable and growing and rotating team of responsible people in general, although the FEP team is going well ... looking at it as a prototype, though, it's not a failure: it's identified a use case that's a good match for the current state of the prototype, as well as a big challenge to address to extend to other use cases.
In terms of the overall reboot or shutdown question ... those aren't the only two options. Another possibility is to take a hiatus, putting the community into read-only mode for a while; or, narrowing of focus, at least in the short term, for example keeping the FEP discussions going and shifting other stuff into read-only for the time being (if that's possible in Discourse). Both of these keep open the option of moving SocialHub forward (potentially in a different form). They also create an opportunity to see what alternatives evolve on their own -- and the space to come up with proposals and plans for moving forward that identify and address the underlying challenges.
Then again, sometime the takeaway from a prototype -- even one with valuable learning -- is that this isn't a direction you see as practical to pursue given the overall constraints. If SocialHub shuts down, people who see value in some or all of what happens here will start up other mechanisms; to the extent that there's currently a community here, it can migrate. As long as there's an archive, or the site's available in read-only mode, history isn't lost; and everything here is CC-SA-4.0 so new sites can take whatever subset is useful. All of that's true whether or not you officially pass the torch to somebody else.
silverpill:
But in this thread? Many share a strange patronizing attitude towards developers. Like we’re sheep incapable of self-organizing that must be herded to some website in order to be educated by wise community managers and spoonfed with linked data slop. Thanks but no. This attitude is absolutely the last thing we need on a developer forum.
Where are you seeing this? From what I'm seeing, the discussion is not about any of those things, so this is quite the bizarre statement. I also don't think this is strictly a "developer forum", as there are several different sections dedicated to software, spec work, interest gathering, and so on -- and participation is welcomed by anyone.
silverpill:
In theory, the place can be run by developers themselves, but nowadays most of us use our own software, and we can talk to each other directly without SocialHub in the middle, or via other forums and groups.
If there are "other forums and groups", then no one is being made broadly aware of them. If the answer is "we can talk to each other directly", then this is essentially abdicating any sort of collective communication -- if you don't follow a bunch of the people involved, you won't see the conversations.
As it stands, SocialHub is the most prominent place to go if you want to see discussions about ActivityPub and related topics. I'm not aware of any more prominent venues. This isn't to say that anyone is being "herded to some website" or that SocialHub must be "in the middle", but it is generally valuable if the discussions end up being collected somewhere in aggregate, and it is generally convenient if the discussions can be carried out long-form with all the creature comforts of forums and none of the limitations of microblogging. What's the alternative being posed here? Where do people go for this stuff?
Re: SocialHub developer community: Reboot or Shutdown?
> I also don't think this is strictly a "developer forum", as there are several different sections dedicated to software, spec work, interest gathering, and so on -- and participation is welcomed by anyone.
Fair, there is space for all of these discussions, but considering that of a given set of ActivityPub developers, only a small subset of those developers contribute to SocialHub.
That may be a signal that either the existing space is not suitable for AP implementors, or a new space may be a welcome addition.
julian:
of a given set of ActivityPub developers, only a small subset of those developers contribute to SocialHub.That may be a signal that either the existing space is not suitable for AP implementors, or a new space may be a welcome addition.
I would pose this question in two parts:
- What are developers doing that could be brought to a forum like SocialHub?
- What makes SocialHub specifically not suitable for bringing those topics here?
The existence of any forum implies an opportunity for collaborative participation rather than a mandate. It would be helpful to have explicitly identified examples of discussions that could be brought to a forum, and explicitly identified sentiments of why those discussions weren't brought to this forum.
So far, the most clearly articulated objection seems to be advocating for bypassing forums in favor of ad-hoc communications or backchannels. Perhaps this is adequate for fixing one-off bugs as compared to creating a topic in that software's category. Perhaps that bug was filed on a project's issue tracker instead. But for having sustained conversations over the course of days or weeks or months or even years about meatier topics, I can't imagine much effectiveness in a scattered diffuse set of posts only living on people's profiles if you scroll back far enough.
Personally, I bring such conversations here because I don't want them to be lost to the timeline and I don't want character limits or a lack of blockquotes to impair my communications. I also know that there is an audience here for ActivityPub-related special interest topics, whereas there is no such expectation for my hangout spot where i go to check in on what some friends are doing. the context matters a lot.
Great questions @trwnh, relevant not to just SocialHub but also to alternatives.
trwnh:
- What are developers doing that could be brought to a forum like SocialHub?
Here's some examples of some of the conversations happening now or over the last couple of weeks that fit in SocialHub's scope (as I understand it) and seem relevant to developers (they all relate to limitations and/or potential improvements in the software).
- the Dropsitenews report about Meta's scraping
- starter packs and consent (sparked by the Mastodon announcement)
- A New Social's post on crossposting vs bridging that also led to discussion of federation in the client
- decentralized payments, in response to itch.io
- Fedi clients (sparked by a request from Laurens and a couple of discussions in Fediverse Report)
- the Online Services Act / EU and Australia age verification and their implications
- the "verify your account" spam/scam
- Ghost's ActivityPub support (including their currently-proprietary client)
trwnh:
- What makes SocialHub specifically not suitable for bringing those topics here?
In a nutshell:
- people who are active on SocialHub don't bring those topics here when they see them, presumably because they don't see value in doing so. You mentioned that you personally bring conversations here because you know there's an audience here for the ActivityPub topics you focus on, but that's not necessarily true for topics like these. You also cited character limits and a lack of blockquotes but other than vanilla Mastodon most fedi software supports that pretty well, so again that's not relevant for a lot of people.
- people who aren't active on SocialHub generally have no incentive to bring discussions here
- even if people who don't have accounts here want to bring discussions here, it's not in general obvious how. I experimented with trying to bring the bridging / crossposting / federation in the client post here. The first dilemma was not knowing what account to tag for a given post; even once I found the list, should it be fediversity, software, or ... ? I chose Fediversity, and replied to the thread tagging the category actor ... but nothing showed up here. So I started a new thread, tagging the category actor ... but once again, nothing showed up here.
Of course these aren't only challenges for SocialHub. A few of these discussions are on piefed.social/c/fediverse and lemmy.world/c/fediverse but most aren't. That said, I do think the specific dynamics of who's currently active on SocialHub and what they're interested accentuate the problems. A reboot could offer opportunities to make progress on those, but if it's being driven by the people who are currently active here I'm not sure how likely that is.
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(In a discussion on SocialHub, @trwnh asked what kinds of developer-focused discussions were happening elsewhere on fedi and what the barriers were to bringing them to SocialHub. This is certainly a good example! So, as an experiment, I'm going to try tagging @ fediversity @ socialhub.activitypub.rocks to see how that works.*)I certainly agree about the connections and (where feasible) interop across networks/protocols as being critical. From a terminology perspective it might be better to come up with another term that includes server-based federation (via a same protocol), cross-protocol adapters (server-side connect across protocols), and cross-posting with client support for merging discussions.
* EDIT: it didn't work. In fact it may well. have caused a load spike on SocialHub that made SocialHub unavailable for a few minutes, although it's possible that was just coincidence. In any case I edited this post to remove the tag to keep anybody else from unintentionally also temporarily crashing SocialHub!
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It goes both ways. There are a lot of interesting discussions started here and not elsewhere. It all contributes to the grassroots ecosystem at large and helps evolve the fediverse. The AP dev community has a broad range of opinions, ideologies, values, things they find important. And all across the ecosystem there are various independent initiatives where people can find their peers, and join groups they feel most comfortable to be with. It is a good thing, that. It helps stimulate the overall diversity of the ecosystem, and resilience of the fedi movement as a whole. If there's sustained custodianship of SocialHub, and a dedicated community team, then SocialHub is viable.
Are there more volunteers for the community team?
Corbyn and Sultana launch 'new kind of political party'
'Your Party' is either an interim name or just the working group name, not totally clear which. Anyway, thought it would be of interest.
EDIT: Yeah, it's not registered with the Electoral Commission, so it's not yet a political party, but it's run by the Peace and Justice Project, which is Corbyn's existing vehicle.
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Jeremy Corbyn's New Group Sounds Very Much Like Another Party Which Is Rising On The Left
Jeremy Corbyn has just announced he is launching a brand new left-wing party – but it already sounds very similar to the Green Party’s proposals.Together with fellow former Labour MP Zarah Sultana, the ex-Labour leader promised a “new kind of political party” which “belongs to you”.
They said they would call for a wealth tax, champion an NHS which is free from privatisation, stand up for Palestine and challenge the fossil fuel giants “putting their profits before our planet”.
These policies are not dissimilar to those backed by the Green Party, which many former Labour supporters, now disillusioned, have flocked to over the last year.
That could therefore put the two parties at odds with one another.
Zack Polanski, the frontrunner in the ongoing Greens’ leadership race and the party’s current deputy, told HuffPost UK shortly after Corbyn’s announcement it is clear the parties have plenty in common.
He noted: “I’ve read the statement and I can’t see a single thing in there that’s not Green Party policy or doesn’t align already with the Green Party.”
He said: “I really like Jeremy and Zarah both as people and also as politicians. I’m supportive of anything they’re setting up.”
But the London Assembly member also made it clear they would be “welcome” in the Greens, which he called a “movement for change”.
He said: “I think it’s a positive thing that they’ve recognised that the Labour Party as a vehicle of progressive change that utterly collapsed, and it’s time to abandon it. They’ve not left the Labour Party, but Labour Party has left them.”
However, he noted that – unlike Corbyn’s new group – the Greens do not need to have a conference in the autumn to decide their name.
“Maybe that conference should decide actually, the Green party exists and is doing really well,” Polanski said, pointing to the nearly two million votes they secured in the general election. “It kind of makes sense to join the Green Party.”
Jeremy Corbyn's New Group Sounds Very Much Like Another Party Which Is Rising On The Left
The Greens' Zack Polanski told HuffPost UK that everything Corbyn is proposing aligns closely with his party.Kate Nicholson (HuffPost UK)
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