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Psicologia REM di Michael Raduga: sogni lucidi e crescita personale
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- Perché leggere Psicologia Rem: la guida ai sogni lucidi di Michael Raduga
- E se i sogni lucidi potessero trasformare la tua vita?
- Chi è Michael Raduga e l’efficacia del suo metodo
- Scoprire il potere dei sogni lucidi
- L’innovazione di Michael Raduga: la teoria che unisce psicologia e sonno REM
- Emozioni e connessioni neurali: la teoria dietro Psicologia Rem
- Sogni lucidi vs visualizzazione: perché il metodo di Raduga è più efficace
- Sogni lucidi come terapia: affrontare paure e traumi
- Sogni lucidi e viaggi astrali: la guida pratica di Psicologia Rem
- La neuroplasticità onirica: la teoria del metodo
- Sognare per crescere: esempi pratici e applicazioni
- Tecniche per sogni lucidi e viaggi astrali: una panoramica
- Psicologia Rem: pro e contro del metodo di Raduga
- I punti di forza di Psicologia Rem: chiarezza e approccio pratico
- Possibili limiti del libro e suggerimenti per la lettura
- Psicologia Rem: opinione e valutazione finale
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Psicologia REM di Michael Raduga analizza l’uso dei sogni lucidi come strumento scientifico per la crescita personale e la risoluzione dei problemi. Questa guida ti accompagna attraverso la teoria delle connessioni neurali e l’applicazione pratica per superare traumi e blocchi emotivi. viaggio nei sogni lucidi con Psicologia REM: il metodo di Michael Raduga per trasformare la mente e migliorare la vita. Tradotto in italiano da Michele Bizzarri, trainer della Phase School.
Perché leggere Psicologia Rem: la guida ai sogni lucidi di Michael Raduga
E se i sogni lucidi potessero trasformare la tua vita?
Quante volte ci svegliamo da un sogno pensando che fosse talmente reale da lasciare in noi emozioni forti, come gioia, paura o nostalgia? E se potessimo entrare volontariamente in quel mondo e utilizzarlo come strumento di crescita personale? Non parliamo di fantasia o di semplici tecniche di rilassamento, ma di un metodo concreto che affonda le sue radici nella psicologia del sonno e nello studio della fase REM. Il libro Psicologia Rem ci invita a considerare i sogni lucidi come un vero e proprio laboratorio interiore, dove è possibile sperimentare nuove connessioni, affrontare blocchi emotivi, superare traumi e persino esercitare abilità da trasferire nella vita quotidiana. È un approccio pratico e innovativo, pensato per chi vuole trasformare le notti in un’opportunità di cambiamento.
Chi è Michael Raduga e l’efficacia del suo metodo
Psicologia Rem non è solo un manuale, ma il risultato di anni di ricerca coordinata da Michael Raduga, fondatore e CEO di REMspace Inc., del Phase Research Center e della Phase School (di cui Michele Bizzarri è trainer in Italia). Con oltre vent’anni di esperienza nello studio di sogni lucidi, esperienze extracorporee (OBE) e paralisi del sonno, Raduga è una delle figure di riferimento a livello mondiale. È autore di circa 15 libri tradotti in oltre dieci lingue, tra cui il celebre The Phase, considerato una guida pratica fondamentale per imparare a indurre la lucidità onirica e vivere esperienze fuori dal corpo.
Ma Psicologia Rem non è opera di un solo autore. È un lavoro corale a cui hanno contribuito diversi ricercatori e divulgatori del Phase Research Center:
- Zhanna Zhunusova, “REM-psychologist”, specializzata nello studio del sonno REM e negli stati di coscienza durante i sogni, formatrice e tutor nel campo dei sogni lucidi;
- Svetlana Dementieva, ricercatrice e divulgatrice nel settore dell’oniriologia;
- Elena Puntus, attiva nella divulgazione scientifica e parte integrante del team internazionale legato a Raduga;
- Dmitry Stolbov, collaboratore diretto di Raduga e co-autore del libro, impegnato nella ricerca e nello sviluppo delle metodologie pratiche;
- Mikhail Baryshnikov, esperto e divulgatore dei sogni lucidi, membro stabile del gruppo di ricerca.
Il contributo di più voci rende il testo non solo scientificamente solido, ma anche più completo e ricco, unendo teoria, sperimentazione pratica e divulgazione.
L’impegno di Raduga e del suo team non si limita alla teoria. A testimonianza della sua dedizione allo studio pratico dei sogni lucidi, di recente è stata messa in commercio LucidMe, una mascherina tecnologica progettata per aiutare gli utenti a raggiungere la lucidità onirica. Grazie all’uso dell’intelligenza artificiale, il dispositivo monitora la fase REM del sonno e invia segnali luminosi o vibrazioni, guidando chi lo indossa a diventare consapevole di stare sognando. Questa innovazione dimostra come Raduga stia lavorando per rendere le tecniche dei sogni lucidi ancora più accessibili e scientificamente supportate.
Scoprire il potere dei sogni lucidi
Conoscere i concetti principali di Psicologia Rem significa scoprire perché questo libro è un’opera unica nel suo genere, capace di distinguersi tra tutti i testi dedicati al sonno e ai sogni. Approfondiremo:
- la teoria alla base del metodo, che mette in relazione emozioni, eventi e connessioni neurali;
- le applicazioni pratiche dei sogni lucidi per superare traumi, blocchi e difficoltà personali;
- i contenuti principali del libro, suddivisi tra spiegazioni teoriche, casi concreti e tecniche per indurre la lucidità onirica e le esperienze fuori dal corpo;
- i punti di forza e i possibili limiti, con attenzione all’efficacia per chi cerca strumenti immediatamente utilizzabili.
I tuoi sogni possono diventare un terreno fertile per la trasformazione interiore e la crescita personale. Psicologia Rem è una guida pratica e accessibile, capace di aprire nuove prospettive sul rapporto tra mente, emozioni e sonno REM.
L’innovazione di Michael Raduga: la teoria che unisce psicologia e sonno REM
Emozioni e connessioni neurali: la teoria dietro Psicologia Rem
Uno dei punti di partenza di Psicologia Rem è l’idea che ogni esperienza della nostra vita lasci una traccia nel cervello sotto forma di connessione neurale. Quando un evento è accompagnato da una forte emozione – che sia positiva o negativa – quella connessione si consolida e diventa parte del nostro modo di reagire al mondo. Ecco perché certi traumi o blocchi emotivi continuano a condizionare i nostri comportamenti anche a distanza di anni: non è questione di volontà, ma di automatismi registrati a livello neurologico.
La proposta di Michael Raduga e del suo team è tanto semplice quanto rivoluzionaria: se queste connessioni si sono formate a partire da un’esperienza reale e carica di emozione, allora possono essere modificate o sostituite attraverso un’altra esperienza altrettanto vivida e significativa. Ed è qui che entrano in gioco i sogni lucidi e le esperienze extracorporee legate al sonno REM.
Sogni lucidi vs visualizzazione: perché il metodo di Raduga è più efficace
Molti approcci di crescita personale e tecniche di auto-aiuto si basano sulla visualizzazione: immaginare mentalmente un obiettivo, rivivere un ricordo o proiettare se stessi in una situazione positiva. Tuttavia, come sottolinea Raduga, la visualizzazione resta un processo “debole”, perché manca della forza sensoriale e della componente emozionale che caratterizzano le esperienze reali.
Un sogno lucido, invece, viene percepito dal cervello come un evento autentico. Le sensazioni tattili, visive e uditive sono così realistiche da ingannare completamente la mente, attivando gli stessi circuiti neuronali che si attiverebbero in una situazione di veglia. Per questo motivo, utilizzare i sogni lucidi come strumento terapeutico ha un potenziale molto più forte: il cervello registra l’esperienza come reale e la connessione neurale viene modificata in profondità.
Sogni lucidi come terapia: affrontare paure e traumi
Qui sta l’innovazione principale di Psicologia Rem: i sogni non vengono trattati come semplici proiezioni dell’inconscio o come fenomeni da interpretare, ma come un vero e proprio laboratorio psicologico personale. Nello stato di sogno lucido è possibile affrontare direttamente paure e traumi, vivere esperienze correttive, immaginare nuove soluzioni e persino esercitare abilità che hanno effetti misurabili nella vita di tutti i giorni.
Raduga e i coautori propongono quindi una sorta di “psicoterapia del sonno REM”, un approccio pratico che sfrutta il potere trasformativo delle esperienze extracorporee e dei sogni lucidi per lavorare su sé stessi. Non si tratta solo di esplorazione interiore o di curiosità onirica, ma di un metodo strutturato che combina neuroscienza, psicologia e pratiche di induzione onirica. In questo senso, il libro si distingue da molte altre guide perché mostra come i sogni lucidi possano diventare strumenti concreti di cambiamento personale, aprendo nuove possibilità nel campo della psicologia applicata e della crescita individuale.
Sogni lucidi e viaggi astrali: la guida pratica di Psicologia Rem
La neuroplasticità onirica: la teoria del metodo
La prima sezione di Psicologia Rem si concentra sulla spiegazione teorica del metodo. Qui Raduga e i coautori introducono il concetto di connessioni neurali generate da emozioni ed esperienze, e spiegano come queste diventino i “programmi” che guidano le nostre reazioni quotidiane. Quando un evento traumatico o molto intenso viene registrato nel cervello, tende a consolidarsi e a ripetersi come schema mentale, influenzando il modo in cui affrontiamo nuove situazioni.
L’idea centrale è che queste connessioni non sono immutabili: possono essere riscritte attraverso esperienze altrettanto vivide. Ed è proprio durante la fase REM che la mente ha la possibilità di creare scenari così realistici da competere con la veglia. Questa sezione getta quindi le basi scientifiche e psicologiche che sostengono l’intero libro, presentando la psicologia del sonno REM come un campo ancora in evoluzione, ma con enormi potenzialità pratiche.
Sognare per crescere: esempi pratici e applicazioni
Nella seconda parte il testo diventa più operativo: non ci si limita alla teoria, ma vengono presentati esempi reali di applicazione del metodo. Il lettore scopre come i sogni lucidi possano essere utilizzati per affrontare paure specifiche (come il parlare in pubblico o la paura di volare), per elaborare traumi passati o per sbloccarsi in ambiti di vita dove prevale l’insicurezza.
Raduga e i coautori illustrano diversi scenari pratici in cui il sogno lucido viene vissuto come una “simulazione reale”, capace di produrre un cambiamento immediato nella percezione del problema. L’aspetto interessante è che il libro non parla di risultati miracolosi, ma propone un metodo graduale, applicabile da chiunque, che unisce sperimentazione personale e comprensione dei meccanismi psicologici. Questa parte è forse la più coinvolgente per il lettore, perché dimostra che i sogni lucidi non sono solo un fenomeno affascinante, ma un vero strumento di trasformazione personale.
Tecniche per sogni lucidi e viaggi astrali: una panoramica
La terza parte del libro è dedicata alle tecniche per indurre sogni lucidi e esperienze fuori dal corpo (OBE). Anche se il tema non viene trattato in modo approfondito come in altri testi di Raduga, il lettore trova comunque una panoramica utile delle principali strategie per raggiungere la lucidità onirica. Vengono spiegati approcci pratici da sperimentare durante il risveglio o nel passaggio tra veglia e sonno, insieme a consigli per mantenere la lucidità una volta entrati nello scenario onirico.
Questa sezione funge anche da ponte con il resto delle opere di Raduga: chi desidera padroneggiare davvero le tecniche troverà in Psicologia Rem un’introduzione preziosa, che può essere integrata con altri manuali e risorse più specifiche. Per esempio, potresti leggere La Fase di Michael Raduga, scaricando l’eBook dal link presente nel nostro articolo recensione. Oppure puoi cercare altri manuali su sogni lucidi e viaggi astrali.
Psicologia Rem: pro e contro del metodo di Raduga
I punti di forza di Psicologia Rem: chiarezza e approccio pratico
Uno degli aspetti più apprezzabili di Psicologia Rem è la sua chiarezza espositiva. Nonostante affronti argomenti complessi come la neuroplasticità, la fase REM e le dinamiche delle esperienze extracorporee, il libro riesce a mantenere un linguaggio semplice e accessibile, adatto anche a chi si avvicina per la prima volta a questi temi.
Un altro punto di forza è la forte impronta pratica: non si tratta di un testo puramente teorico o accademico, ma di una guida che invita subito alla sperimentazione personale. Il lettore non rimane con concetti astratti, ma trova strumenti concreti da provare, che spaziano dalle tecniche di induzione dei sogni lucidi a esercizi per applicare il metodo nella vita di tutti i giorni.
Inoltre, il libro ha il merito di presentare una prospettiva innovativa: i sogni lucidi non vengono descritti solo come curiosità oniriche o come esperienze da raccontare, ma come un vero strumento psicologico per la crescita personale e la trasformazione interiore. Questa visione concreta e scientifica rende Psicologia Rem un testo originale, diverso dai classici manuali di auto-aiuto.
Possibili limiti del libro e suggerimenti per la lettura
Per offrire una recensione equilibrata, è giusto menzionare anche qualche possibile limite. Alcuni lettori potrebbero trovare la parte dedicata alle tecniche di induzione un po’ troppo sintetica. Chi cerca una guida dettagliata su come ottenere sogni lucidi e viaggi astrali potrebbe dover integrare la lettura con altri testi di Raduga, come La Fase, o con risorse più specifiche.
Un altro possibile limite è che, pur essendo molto stimolante, il metodo richiede costanza e impegno personale: non basta leggere il libro, bisogna mettersi in gioco e sperimentare. Per chi cerca soluzioni rapide e senza sforzo, Psicologia Rem come qualsiasi altro manuale sui sogni lucidi, potrebbe risultare impegnativo.
Tuttavia, proprio questi aspetti rafforzano la credibilità del testo: non promette scorciatoie miracolose, ma offre strumenti reali, che danno risultati a chi è disposto a provare con serietà. E per chi desidera approfondire, il libro si inserisce in un percorso più ampio di studio e pratica dei sogni lucidi, come, ad esempio, i corsi organizzati da Michele Bizzarri, trainer italiano della Phase School.
Psicologia Rem: opinione e valutazione finale
Perché Psicologia Rem è un libro da leggere
Psicologia Rem è molto più di un libro sui sogni lucidi: è una guida pratica alla trasformazione personale che unisce psicologia del sonno, neuroscienze e sperimentazione onirica. Grazie al lavoro di Michael Raduga e del suo team, il lettore scopre come i sogni lucidi possano diventare strumenti per affrontare paure, superare traumi e costruire nuove risorse interiori. La forza di questo testo sta nella sua capacità di rendere accessibili concetti complessi, trasformandoli in un metodo applicabile nella vita quotidiana.
A chi consiglio Psicologia Rem
Questo libro è adatto a chiunque voglia comprendere il mondo dei sogni lucidi non solo come esperienza affascinante, ma come opportunità di crescita. È perfetto per chi si avvicina per la prima volta al tema, grazie al linguaggio chiaro e agli esempi pratici, ma anche per chi ha già fatto esperienze fuori dal corpo (OBE) e desidera scoprire nuove applicazioni psicologiche. Chi soffre di ansia, blocchi interiori o vuole allenare la propria mente troverà in Psicologia Rem un alleato prezioso.
Credo che i sogni lucidi, un giorno, saranno uno strumento comune per la crescita personale e la risoluzione dei problemi. Non lo sono ancora, ma questo libro ti dà l’opportunità di iniziare a scoprirli e a sfruttarne il potere.
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The overlooked global risk of the AI precariat
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36070739
- With AI disrupting employment, millions could face the loss of purpose, identity and social belonging.
- The psychological toll of sudden AI-driven unemployment remains largely unaddressed.
- If we want AI to be remembered as a tool for human flourishing, rather than mass alienation, we must start planning, not just for the jobs AI will create – but for the dreams it might erase.
The overlooked global risk of the AI precariat
- With AI disrupting employment, millions could face the loss of purpose, identity and social belonging.
- The psychological toll of sudden AI-driven unemployment remains largely unaddressed.
- If we want AI to be remembered as a tool for human flourishing, rather than mass alienation, we must start planning, not just for the jobs AI will create – but for the dreams it might erase.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/08/the-overlooked-global-risk-of-the-ai-precariat/
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Authenticate thyself: Data has created a new and paradoxical social order: the promise of emancipation is made possible by classifying everything
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36066218
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In the mid-1950s, IBM approached Jacques Perret, a Classics professor at the Sorbonne, with a question. They were about to sell a new kind of computer in France, the Model 650. What, they asked, should it be called? Not the model itself, but rather the whole class of device it represented. An obvious option was calculateur, the literal French translation of ‘computer’. But IBM wanted something that conveyed more than arithmetic. ‘Dear Sir,’ Perret replied,
How about ordinateur? It is a correctly formed word, which is even found in Littré [the standard 19th-century French dictionary] as an adjective designating God who brings order to the world. A word of this kind has the advantage of easily supplying a verb, ordiner … (My translation.)Besides, Perret added, the implicitly feminine connotation already present in IBM’s marketing materials could carry over to the new term:
Re-reading the brochures you gave me, I see that several of your devices are designated by female agent names (trieuse, tabulatrice). Ordinatrice would be perfectly possible … My preference would be to go for l’ordinatrice electronique.The female reference was not entirely inappropriate. Up until the mid-20th century, the term ‘computer’ meant an office clerk, usually a woman, performing calculations by hand, or with the help of a mechanical device. IBM’s new machine, however, was intended for general information-processing. The masculine and godlike version prevailed. The term soon entered common language. Every computer in France became known as an ordinateur.
Authenticate thyself: Data has created a new and paradoxical social order: the promise of emancipation is made possible by classifying everything
In the mid-1950s, IBM approached Jacques Perret, a Classics professor at the Sorbonne, with a question. They were about to sell a new kind of computer in France, the Model 650. What, they asked, should it be called? Not the model itself, but rather the whole class of device it represented. An obvious option was calculateur, the literal French translation of ‘computer’. But IBM wanted something that conveyed more than arithmetic. ‘Dear Sir,’ Perret replied,
How about ordinateur? It is a correctly formed word, which is even found in Littré [the standard 19th-century French dictionary] as an adjective designating God who brings order to the world. A word of this kind has the advantage of easily supplying a verb, ordiner … (My translation.)Besides, Perret added, the implicitly feminine connotation already present in IBM’s marketing materials could carry over to the new term:
Re-reading the brochures you gave me, I see that several of your devices are designated by female agent names (trieuse, tabulatrice). Ordinatrice would be perfectly possible … My preference would be to go for l’ordinatrice electronique.The female reference was not entirely inappropriate. Up until the mid-20th century, the term ‘computer’ meant an office clerk, usually a woman, performing calculations by hand, or with the help of a mechanical device. IBM’s new machine, however, was intended for general information-processing. The masculine and godlike version prevailed. The term soon entered common language. Every computer in France became known as an ordinateur.
Because of this transformation, our sense of who we are is assembled in a strange and tangled fashion. The machinery of ordinalisation attends carefully to individuals rather than coarse classes or groups. By doing so, it appears to liberate people from the constraints of social affiliations and to judge them for their distinctive qualities and contributions. It promises incorporation for the excluded, recognition for the creative, and just rewards for the entrepreneurial. And yet this emancipatory promise is delivered through systems that classify, sort and, above all, rank people with ever-greater precision and on a previously unimaginable scale. The resulting social order is a sort of paradox, characterised by constant tensions between personal freedom and social control, between the subjective elan of inner authenticity and the objective forces of external authentication. It gives rise to a certain way of being, a new kind of self, whose experiences are defined by the push for personal autonomy and the pull of platform dependency.
Sounds like their point is we were emancipated from being defined by our social connections and place in society. This is being done by data identifying our intrinsic properties that exist without our social connections.
This is in line with the west’s (North American) ever increasing individualism. A trend that many suggest has gone too far, and is harming individuals, along with the rest of society.
“Don’t just go with the flow in your community and family! Each and everyone of you have the potential for more! Break free! Buy our product, and show everyone who you really are!”
This is just my take on your question.
‘You never want to leave:’ TikTok employees raise concerns about the app’s impact on teens in newly unsealed video
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/36070056
Current and former TikTok employees have raised concerns internally about how the app’s popular algorithm could hurt young users’ mental health, a newly unsealed video presented as evidence in a North Carolina lawsuit against the company shows.
‘You never want to leave:’ TikTok employees raise concerns about the app’s impact on teens in newly unsealed video
Current and former TikTok employees have raised concerns internally about how the app’s popular algorithm could hurt young users’ mental health, a newly unsealed video presented as evidence in a North Carolina lawsuit against the company shows.
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Only happens in their de weird ass American toilets that have a giant lake below you.
To fix this, place some toilet paper in the water below you, it'll lessen the backsplash
The overlooked global risk of the AI precariat
- With AI disrupting employment, millions could face the loss of purpose, identity and social belonging.
- The psychological toll of sudden AI-driven unemployment remains largely unaddressed.
- If we want AI to be remembered as a tool for human flourishing, rather than mass alienation, we must start planning, not just for the jobs AI will create – but for the dreams it might erase.
https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/08/the-overlooked-global-risk-of-the-ai-precariat/
7 years later, Valve's Proton has been an incredible game-changer for Linux
7 years later, Valve's Proton has been an incredible game-changer for Linux
It has been 7 years since Valve revealed Proton, their compatibility layer to run Windows games on Linux systems. What an incredible time it has been.Liam Dawe (GamingOnLinux)
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Not really. But from a security perspective, giving software for a video game, done by InfinityWard, EA, Activision, Treyarch and similar, access to the lowest level of your operating systen is kinda insane.
I wouldn't want any personal data on such a device, let alone do online baking on that thing. It's weird how normalized it has become give entertainement-software this kind of power over your devices.
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Programs and subsystems in user mode are limited in terms of what system resources they have access to, while the kernel mode has unrestricted access to the system memory and external devices. Kernel mode in Windows NT has full access to the hardware and system resources of the computer.
‘You never want to leave:’ TikTok employees raise concerns about the app’s impact on teens in newly unsealed video
Current and former TikTok employees have raised concerns internally about how the app’s popular algorithm could hurt young users’ mental health, a newly unsealed video presented as evidence in a North Carolina lawsuit against the company shows.
Alleged Pirate Site Operator Arrested, Family Crowdfunds "David vs. Goliath" Defense
Alleged Pirate Site Operator Arrested, Family Crowdfunds "David vs. Goliath" Defense * TorrentFreak
The alleged operator of sports streaming service 'Al Ángulo TV' has been arrested in Argentina following a criminal investigation.Ernesto Van der Sar (TF Publishing)
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One UI 8 New Features: A First Look at Samsung's Big Update | Tygo Cover
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"Imagine your phone automatically silencing itself when it detects you’re in a meeting based on your calendar, or suggesting a playlist when you connect your Galaxy Buds. Bixby is rumored to become more of a true personal assistant that anticipates your needs."
I'm imagining it and it's horrible. For this to be useful it would have to be so incredibly perfect. The frustration factor on this would be through the roof. Just give me a silence button on my calender that I can program if I want to. Even that is a little frivolous but it's simple and reliable at least.
When is someone going to just break and make a fast, small, simple, reliable phone that doesn't get bogged down in crap?
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terapia linuxgirl con i pezzi mancanti che il merdifero sistema non aiuta a trovare…
Alla fine, dopo altri ormai incontabili mesi di casino, è arrivato il momento in cui mi hanno dato le medicine “ragazza gatto utente Linux“… e sarà forse questo il megainizio magico, che temevamo non potesse essere neppure affatto raggiunto, poiché preceduto dalla megafine??? 🤯😳😻
Beh, qui rischia di essere difficile a dirsi, perché quando di mezzo c’è il Sistema Sanitario Nazionale non bastano 100 preghiere al giorno affinché sia tutto non dico dall’andazzo liscio, ma quantomeno dai dettagli chiari; no, non è concesso affatto, perché, per quanto il governatore della regione si vanti di tutta l’informatizzazione fatta negli ultimi anni per l’ambito sanitario, il dover avere a che fare con le ASL e tutti i loro assolutamente merdiferi goblin cornuti rimane tranquillamente lo scempio di sempre, a quanto pare. In breve, ora la cosa complicata palesemente diventerà ottenere periodicamente il rifornimento di questi medicinali… 😩😫Già avere queste prime confezioni non è stato drittissimo. Non li ho potuti prendere il giorno stesso in cui la dottoressa dell’ospedale me li ha prescritti, perché (tra pazienti ritardatari—ehm, volevo dire ritardati—e altri pazienti più complessi) l’appuntamento con ella è slittato in avanti di praticamente un’ora questo lunedì mattina, e quindi la loro farmacia era a quel punto chiusa; erano quasi le 15. Allora, avendomi lei detto di andare o alla farmacia dell’ospedale il giorno dopo, o all’ASL… martedì la farmacia dell’ASL è chiusa, e quindi ci sono andata mercoledì; ma, robe da pazzi, mi hanno praticamente detto che devo andare in farmacia (generica) con la ricetta del medico di base (che è diversa dal modulo di prescrizione dell’ospedale, ed è un bordello a sé, sia perché il nostro medico è a dir poco evanescente, sia perché a quanto ha detto Debian non è prescrivibile o qualcosa del genere; lasciamo stare, se possibile)… vai ora a capire perché. (Probabilmente, non li avevano e devono ordinarli; spero, a questo punto, perché le alternative sarebbero peggio.) 🤥
Stamattina allora — visto che ormai non si può pretendere di avere cose migliori da svolgere la mattina — verso le 10 ho preso l’autobus (evitando di far sprecare altra benzina e fatica a mio padre, e viva la tirchiaggine!) e sono andata all’ospedale in culandia, alla farmacia che per fortuna a quest’ora era aperta, e mi hanno dato per l’appunto le due misere scatoline in foto. Ora, a parte che c’è davvero da piangere per come il mio abbonamento dei mezzi sia mezzo inutile per fare giretti di spasso, visto che dopo una certa ora non circola più niente, e quindi anziché per divertirmi io mi ritrovi ad usarlo per andare al fottuto ospedale (a parte l’università, che è solo poco meno avvilente), la rogna vera è che lì mi hanno detto che per le prossime dosi devo chiedere per forza all’ASL di residenza; non a loro, né in qualche ASL a caso messa meglio della mia… 😭
Quindi, alla fine, gira che mi rigira, per sicurezza devo ancora aspettare un po’, prima di iniziare a prendere questa roba, per assicurarmi di avere almeno qualche altra confezione da parte… speriamo giorni, e non settimane, maremma maiala. Per la terapia che mi hanno assegnato, infatti, uno dei farmaci (il Debian) è da prendere una (1) pillola al giorno, e la confezione è solo da 20, e 20 giorni è un margine di manovra decisamente troppo basso data la realtà di questa mattanza sanitaria. Domani, che la loro farmacia è di nuovo aperta, tornerò all’ASL sperando di capirci qualcosa di più, che il foglio di prescrizione è valido per 90 giorni di terapia, quindi devono darmi altre scatole di Debian… Vedremo a brevissimo di che morte morirò, insomma. 🙏
Microsoft employee protests lead to 18 arrests as company reviews its work with Israel's military
Police officers arrested 18 people at worker-led protests at Microsoft headquarters Wednesday as the tech company promises an “urgent” review of the Israeli military’s use of its technology during the ongoing ~~war~~ genocide in Gaza.
Two consecutive days of protest at the Microsoft campus in Redmond, Washington called for the tech giant to immediately cut its business ties with Israel.
https://apnews.com/article/microsoft-azure-gaza-israel-protests-49a0dd5905a1cf16eb3e19a98ca17d50
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The problem is, there's a lot of compartmentalization
The people working on the Israel projects are probably going to be on board with what they're doing, so I guess you could sabotage Windows a little?
I mean honestly, with how many bugs are coming up in all the windows products, maybe this is happening. I figured it was just years of layoffs, but maybe some of it is intentional
The monopolistic profit model means that maintenance and other "non-value-added activities" are often reduced to a minimum.
I mean honestly, with how many bugs are coming up in all the windows products, maybe this is happening.
It might be functionally impossible to tell the difference from the outside.
Harvard dropouts to launch ‘always on’ AI smart glasses that listen and record every conversation
cross-posted from: infosec.pub/post/33445279
Two former Harvard students are launching a pair of “always-on” AI-powered smart glasses that listen to, record, and transcribe every conversation and then display relevant information to the wearer in real time.“Our goal is to make glasses that make you super intelligent the moment you put them on,” said AnhPhu Nguyen, co-founder of Halo, a startup that’s developing the technology.
Or, as his co-founder Caine Ardayfio put it, the glasses “give you infinite memory.”
“The AI listens to every conversation you have and uses that knowledge to tell you what to say … kinda like IRL Cluely,” Ardayfio told TechCrunch, referring to the startup that claims to help users “cheat” on everything from job interviews to school exams.
Cluely, a startup that helps 'cheat on everything,' raises $15M from a16z | TechCrunch
Cluely's new funding comes roughly two months after it raised $5.3 million in seed funding co-led by Abstract Ventures and Susa Ventures.Marina Temkin (TechCrunch)
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I like Tiktok for funny and helpful videos, but I deleted it because I realized the algorithm was controlling too much of what I was seeing. I realized it was starting to shape my opinions and split.
Their algorithm is a drug and spreads propaganda just like Facebook. Stay far away.
I recently became active again on LinkedIn because gestures generally at all of the layoffs and even they have short form videos.
Who asked for that?!
10 piattaforme alternative a Booking e AirBnB per un turismo più etico
10 piattaforme alternative a Booking e AirBNB per un turismo più etico - L'INDIPENDENTE
Andreste mai in vacanza prenotando il vostro alloggio in strutture che, mentre scegliete il vostro soggiorno al mare o in montagna, propongono case vacanze e appartamenti nei territori occupati illegalmente in Cisgiordania e Gerusalemme Est? Se la ri…Mario Catania (Lindipendente.online)
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Questo vale di sicuro per Airbnb, dove ormai trovi non solo affittacamere occasionali ma anche agriturismi o affittacamere veri.
Sinceramente booking per me non esiste neanche.
Di conseguenza il mio suggerimento è usare Airbnb per avere un minimo di garanzie e qualche recensione e poi cercare il posto direttamente. Airbnb guadagna lo stesso e sta al gioco senza problemi, booking è più old-style stile tassisti ormai
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At the very least my most played game ever isn't supported and never will be.
So if I go full linux i will just have to stop playing a game I played for almost 10 years and a game that was owned by a small game dev studio when I started playing. It sucks. I couldn't guess some Epic games would buy this game and then officially make sure it won't run on linux.
it's gotta be League right?
Edit: whoops I read the comment incorrectly it most definitely is not
It's Rocket League.
It worked for a long time on linux. But then Epic Games came in and made very sure it couldn't be played competitively anymore.
At least I think you cannot play online anymore on linux.
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I think It may actually work indeed !
I'm gonna retry it but initially it's this post that made me think it was over for RL on linux :
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I will definitely try again in case it's just Epic Games saying it won't work but proton saving the day.
Thanks for the correction I truly thought Epic had killed linux RL via their anticheat.
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Oh heck yeah!
Yeah, I was running it through Heroic launcher and it worked great.
Hope it still works for you, what a nice win that would be!
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Thanks for the feedback. I genuinely thought that since Epic Games was saying that online matchmaking wouldn't work it was hopeless.
But I will be really pumped if I don't have to reboot on Windows to play RL.
I tried it a few months ago and couldn't get it to work. May just have been me, but even if I, a semi tech literate person has problems with it, good fucking luck getting the broader population to use Linux. It is simply too hard for regular people to do stuff, that just works with windows.
Sure windows has it's issues, but they're issues 95% of people will never encounter. Instead they'll have an easy time installing software, and don't have to look at a database to figure out wether or not they can even play a game.
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The only games that won't run are Battlefield and Cod, LoL, etc
And to be honest, if you play those games, you are most likely a machorchist anyway.
The only games that won't run are Battlefield and Cod, LoL, etc
Oh really ?
That's a bold statement.
Also I suppose it's my own fault for wanting to play competitive multiplayer games online on Linux ?
It's impressive because you probably hope for the same thing as me for gaming on linux but you are toxic as fuck and only think your type of games should be supported.
We are supposed to be in the same team but you shit on the games I want to play instead.
Honestly fuck you.
Edit : My god I shouldn't have watched your comment history.
That AOSP comment my dude...
my own fault for wanting to play competitive multiplayer games online on Linux ?
Yes, that's what I said. If you are able to play competitive stuff nowadays, your nerves should be able to put up with the pain of dual booting.
But dual booting still means using Windows even if it is just for gaming. Which is exactly what I fucking do.
I use W10 and PopOS as dual boot and play all I can on linux.
I even just setup everything for secure boot to work properly on both OS.
But no I'm such a masochist for wanting to just continue ln playing a game like rocket league with my friends online. What a madman.
And it's also my fault if some big dev studios bought a game I liked and then said that linux players have too many cheaters and that they block this platform.
And then there is you on the sideline, all sneakering and enjoying the fact that another cannot play the games they love on their linux platform. So yeah I repeat it, fuck you for hoping the games I play dont get support.
World's first 'thermodynamic computing chip' reaches tape out
Noise-Driven Computing: A Paradigm Shift
A new era in computing is here! Thermodynamic computing, akin to probabilistic computing, harnesses noise for efficient problem-solving. Imagine a world where physics-based ASICs tailor solutions to specific needs.Dina Genkina (IEEE Spectrum)
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Man I would love to have access to chips like this.
Probabilistic computing would really benefit from this, I would invest in the company producing these.
Germany's Renk could relocate production to avoid weapons restrictions to Israel
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/46214413
"If we cannot produce them (hundreds of transissions) in Germany, we will relocate these volumes to a different plant, for example to the U.S.. This might take maybe 8 to 10 months, but, if there's no move forward, we will do it because we have this business," Sagel said.
UK government suggests deleting files to save water
Sorta like how corporations pushed recycling onto the public to deflect from their own culpability for pollution. Why would we regulate the companies building huge data centers when we can get average people to absorb the cost? It's not like they're making obscene profits while laying off untold thousands.
I mean, if that was the case, sure, let's have them pay to clean up the waste they generate. But have you seen NVIDIA, Microsoft, or Meta lately? These companies are barely staying in business. Their CEOs can hardly afford to ride the bus to work. Let's cut them a break.
TLDR: It's your fault the earth is dying because you horde emails.
UK government suggests deleting files to save water
UK officials recommended deleting old emails and photos to conserve water during drought.Justine Calma (The Verge)
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...because you horde emails.
I've never large-group-of-peopled my emails but have been known to hoard them.
L'ingegnoso meccanismo della maschera mutevole nell'opera teatrale di Sichuan - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
L'ingegnoso meccanismo della maschera mutevole nell'opera teatrale di Sichuan - Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri
Nell’affollato teatro tradizionale di Chengdu, un importante evento storico viene presentato al pubblico, enfatizzando le capacità di un personaggio che sfuma nella leggenda.Jacopo (Il blog di Jacopo Ranieri)
No country for calls. Russian censorship agency confirms throttling voice calls on WhatsApp and Telegram to “fight crime”
No country for calls. Russian censorship agency confirms throttling voice calls on WhatsApp and Telegram to “fight crime”
Roskomnadzor, Russia’s state censorship agency, has officially confirmed it is restricting voice calls on the “foreign” messaging applications WhatsApp and Telegram, a move it clai...Mediazona
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Real criminal organizations will know that proprietary software is less secure than open-source stuff.
A proper criminal should use Signal or another open-source e2ee messenger, and so should you.
(Signal is blocked in Russia)
There is also a vast amount of space between a normal human body and the bodies that most Americans now have. That has nothing to do with the unrealistic beauty standards in media (which is also a thing)
Obesity is bad, and it annoys me when people start defending it as being beautiful. It's not, it will kill you in loads of unpleasant ways.
Get healthy, exercise, eat less, eat less sugars
Nobody in the thread above mentioned obesity. Nobody is saying you have to be attracted to obese people. Or disputing that it's unhealthy.
It remains true that there is a lot of space between this extreme and the extreme portrayed in media. Body weight is not the only standard, it's one of many.
... Nobody mentioned obesity but we're talking about body weight... I mean, it's on topic, y'know.
And while body weight is not the only standard, it is a good indication of health. If you're twice overweight, you will die sooner and likely in a not so comfortable way. Handhaving that away with "well, it's one thing but there are others too" feels a bit disingenuous.
Yeah, there are loads of ways to die but this one is very preventable
I've read that American food is particularly bad, and you are right, but the factor contributing most is the metabolism with which you are born, other things important are levels of stress, ability to sleep well.
Exercise is important, yes. Eating right is as well. Just keep in mind that some things are outside your control, and if you think your health is your own achievement, that might not be entirely correct.
Eh, no
The factor that matters most isn't your metabolism. If that were true we'd have sever overweight issues since thousands of years but we haven't. The overweight pandemic is caused by too much food, period.
Want to lose weight? Whatever your metabolism is, eat less, eat healthier. It's that simple.
Yeah, exercise a lot, that's healthy and needed. It won't make you think though unless you really exercise a lot (3+ hours a day, every day)
Easiest way is to just eat less. Eat smaller portions, stop eating processed foods, cut your sugar intake.
There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you're interested
There are some super interesting videos of a physicist / chemist going over the basics of the chemistry involved and implications of it, I can send those if you’re interested
Interested.
How will the UK Safety Act affect services like Matrix?
As Matrix is UK based, meaning they're even more exposed than most services?
From the article:
Meeting and beating our obligations under the Online Safety ActWe’re based in the UK, and we’ve engaged productively with the Online Safety Act since its conception.
Building a Safer Matrix
Matrix, the open protocol for secure decentralised communicationsJim Mackenzie, VP Trust & Safety — The Matrix.org Foundation (matrix.org)
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UK government suggests deleting files to save water
UK government suggests deleting files to save water
UK officials recommended deleting old emails and photos to conserve water during drought.Justine Calma (The Verge)
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White House says Trump-Putin meeting is a 'listening exercise'
'listening exercise'
Tell me your president is 5y old without tell me your president is 5y old
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Putin barks out orders, Trump listens (to the extent he's capable).
But as for "exercise," well, Trump doesn't believe in that.
Cats develop dementia in a similar way to humans
Cats develop dementia in a similar way to humans with Alzheimer's disease, leading to hopes of a breakthrough in research, according to scientists.Experts at the University of Edinburgh carried out a post-mortem brain examination on 25 cats which had symptoms of dementia in life, including confusion, sleep disruption and an increase in vocalisation.
The team believe the discovery in cats could help them get a clearer understanding of the process, offering a valuable model for studying dementia in people.
The study, funded by Wellcome and the UK Dementia Research Institute, is published in the European Journal of Neuroscience, and included scientists from the Universities of Edinburgh and California, UK Dementia Research Institute and Scottish Brain Sciences.
Cats develop dementia in a similar way to humans
Scientists in Edinburgh believe the discovery could help their research into new treatments for Alzheimer's.Calum Watson (BBC News)
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Who were the Al Jazeera journalists killed by Israel in Gaza?
Five Al Jazeera journalists were killed by an Israeli strike in Gaza City on Sunday - among them 28-year-old correspondent Anas al-Sharif, who had reported prominently on the war since its outset.
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The targeted attack on a tent used by journalists has drawn strong international condemnation including from the UN, Qatar where Al Jazeera is based, and media freedom groups.
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Israel had previously accused Sharif of being a member of Hamas's military wing - something he and his employer strongly denied.
Reporters Without Borders (RSF), a media freedom group, said the allegations against him were "baseless" and called on the international community to intervene.
"Without strong action from the international community to stop the Israeli army... we're likely to witness more such extrajudicial mur
Who were the Al Jazeera journalists killed by Israel in Gaza?
Prominent reporter Anas al-Sharif and six other journalists were killed when Israel targeted a tent used by media, the broadcaster said.Alys Davies (BBC News)
This article is so terribly tepid.
How can journalists write about the persecution of their calling so bloodlessly?
These people were more than innocent: they were so-gooders of the kind we all claim to support. They were not only supposed to be protected not only as noncombatants, but especially guarded by their attendance to a sacred mission. They, like aid workers and doctors and nurses and any care giver or person seeking to provide justice is a designated target when the goal of a military operation is extermination.
Has the BBC written an editorial confirming this?
I wanted to just add this article I just came across:
apnews.com/article/jazeera-gaz…
I think this captures exactly what I was describing. And I don't think it's a polemic or opinion piece, I think it's just better journalism.
I agree with you. I think that what most people think of as "objectivity" isn't a thing that exists in reality, but as an ideal that we can strive towards. In practice, there is no neutral journalism — especially in this topic, my instinct is to be extra cautious of pieces that appear objective at first glance.
The piece you shared is a good example of how the bias in reporting can be found both in the micro-level prose, and the macro level framing of the piece (in this case, the macro framing being that the killing of journalists sets a scary precedent).
I think you're partially right. It was a visceral reaction, but it's true that they have to keep the house style.
I disagree that I'm reading "too much polemic instead of real journalism". I think journalism is in crisis, and that the pursuit of "neutrality" in a post-truth era has severely weakened the fourth estate when it should be armed to defend its existence and fundamental values.
First, it's a myth that news is impartial. Conventional news absolutely has a system of values: it's inherently pro-truth, pro-freedom of thought, and democratic. Assassinating journalists out in the open and decreeing that they're legitimate targets is a direct attack on fundamental principles of journalism and free society. Journalism does not need to be neutral on whether assassinating journalists is wrong to retain their legitimacy.
Sadly, these institutions are not experienced or practiced at navigating the challenge of addressing this kind of story. The real story here is that because the practice of journalism undermines what the ruling coalition considers to be in the national interest, Israel has decided as a matter of national policy that it will no longer abide by Article 79 of the Geneva convention. They have not admitted it explicitly, but there is an obvious pattern of fact that goes beyond hundreds of assassinations all the way to their law against publishing news that undermines "national morale". That, imo, is the story. Really stop and think about what a monumental and newsworthy thing it is for a major world power to so publicly confirm a policy that has been until now a matter of dispute.
But the BBC can't within their current operating guidelines find a way to tell that very vital story. That's a tragedy.
I think you should really consider the main article from the BBC on the topic, which is here: bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ceqyyr… In comparison to this profile, it has a lot more context.
Here the BBC lays out the full facts, including the IDF's accusations, and the reasons why those accusations are to be viewed with skepticism. It relates statements by the IDF three times, compared to 5 separate quotes from Al-Jazeera, the UN and the CJP condemning the killing, plus a letter signed by the BBC about the situation for journalists in Gaza.
In the "post-truth era" we need journalistic institutions which resist the temptation to polarise their coverage, and instead to provide neutral and balanced output that can be trusted by everyone. The tragedy of the post-truth era is the disintegration of a collective understanding of the world. By relating the facts with a neutral tone, an outlet maximises the audience which can gain that common understanding, which is far more important than instructing the audience on how to respond emotionally to a subject. It's not like the BBC are burying the problems of Israel's targeting for their readers: they lay out how the world is reliant on Gaza-based reporters to get the truth out, and quotes the accusation that Israel wants to prevent the world from seeing their crimes.
My question to you when you read the BBC's coverage is: are you not outraged by the facts? I am.
Four Al Jazeera journalists killed in Israeli strike near al-Shifa hospital
Israel said it targeted well-known reporter Anas al-Sharif and alleged he was part of Hamas, which Al Jazeera has denied.Amy Walker & Tiffany Wertheimer (BBC News)
Villagers outraged over paltry land offer for $1.5B Trump golf resort
Villagers outraged over paltry land offer for $1.5B Trump golf resort
In Vietnam, villagers whose land is slated to be cleared for a $1.5 billion golf resort backed by the Trump family have reportedly been offered meager compensation by local authorities.Ailia Zehra, Alternet (Raw Story)
Israel rejects UN allegations that its forces have sexually abused detained Palestinians
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I really appreciate the work that AP news does. Good communication and reliable reporting.
I wish, in my heart of hearts, they would link the primary sources when they are online and publicly available. As far as I can tell, UN documentation on these abuses are mostly covered here: docs.un.org/en/A/HRC/59/26
(And committee page more broadly is here: ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/co-… , I think Israel is responding to their more recent report, or something near it.)
(I'm not terribly well informed, do let me know of better sources.)
Israel is in talks to possibly resettle Palestinians from Gaza in South Sudan
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I'm just learning about owncast, is there any way to login or subscribe to people so I can come back to their streams at a later time?
The set name dialog says I can authenticate with a fediverse account via the authenticate dialog, but that doesn't seem to work, at least not with my lemmy account...
But if I succesfully authenticated there's no indication that would let me "subscribe" to a given channel or something though, and that's really what I want
Afaik it is only compatible with Mastodon and similar software, not Lemmy.
You should be able to follow a video channel on Owncast from Mastodon etc. and get updates that way.
The login with Fedi feature is afaik only to join the chat that is displayed next to the video stream.
British Army in Kenya: Some soldiers using sex workers despite ban, inquiry finds
An investigation by the British Army has found some soldiers stationed at a controversial base in Kenya continue to use sex workers despite being banned from doing so.Soldiers at the British Army Training Unit Kenya (Batuk) used sex workers "at a low or moderate" level, a report said, adding more work was needed to stamp out the practice.
The investigation covered a period of more than two years, examining conduct at the base dating back to July 2022.
It was commissioned in October 2024 following an investigation by ITV into the behaviour of soldiers at Batuk, including allegations some army personnel were paying local women for sex.
British Army in Kenya: Some soldiers using sex workers despite ban, inquiry finds
Chief of Defence Staff Sir Roly Walker says the army is committed to stopping sexual exploitation.Stewart Maclean (BBC News)
Russia will ban calling on WhatsApp and Telegram, media personality Ksenia Sobchak says — Meduza
The Russian authorities have reportedly decided to ban the calling feature on WhatsApp and Telegram, well-connected media figure Ksenia Sobchak reported on Tuesday, citing sources in the telecommunications industry.
The decision “has already been made at the very top,” the sources reportedly said.
“They’ve banned calls ‘under the guise of fighting terrorists,’” one source told Sobchak’s Telegram channel. Final consultations on the issue are expected to wrap up this evening, according to a government source she cited.
Sobchak noted that the apps’ messaging and channel features will still remain accessible.
Russia will ban calling on WhatsApp and Telegram, media personality Ksenia Sobchak says
The Russian authorities have reportedly decided to ban the calling feature on WhatsApp and Telegram, well-connected media figure Ksenia Sobchak reported on Tuesday, citing sources in the telecommunications industry.Meduza
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in reply to kinther • • •Nice share! Mistral also shared data about one of its largest model (not the one that answer in LeChat, since that one is Medium, a smaller model, that I guess has smaller energetic requirements)
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in reply to sbv • • •There are zero downsides when mentally associating an energy hog with "1 second of use time of the device that is routinely used for minutes at a time."
xkcd.com/1035/
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in reply to unmagical • • •With regard to sugar: when I started counting calories I discovered that the actual amounts of calories in certain foods were not what I intuitively assumed. Some foods turned out to be much less unhealthy than I thought. For example, I can eat almost three pints of ice cream a day and not gain weight (as long as I don't eat anything else). So sometimes instead of eating a normal dinner, I want to eat a whole pint of ice cream and I can do so guilt-free.
Likewise, I use both AI and a microwave, my energy use from AI in a day is apparently less than the energy I use to reheat a cup of tea, so the conclusion that I can use AI however much I want to without significantly affecting my environmental impact is the correct one.
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in reply to ArbitraryValue • • •Individually you’re spot on. Your AI use doesn’t matter. But, and this is where companies tend to leave off, when you take into account how many millions (or billions) of times something is done in a day (like AI prompts), then that’s when it genuinely matters.
To me, this is akin to companies trying to pass the blame to consumers when it’s the companies themselves who are the biggest climate offenders.
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in reply to ArbitraryValue • • •You’re right. But if I had to pick a why, I’d go with how microwaves at least provide a service for households by heating up food.
AI’s only viable service (at the time of this writing) is a replacement for viagra for techbros when they need to get an erection.
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in reply to ArbitraryValue • • •On a "respond to an individual query" level, yeah it's not that much. But prior to response the data center had to be constructed, the entire web had to be scraped, the models trained, the servers continually ran regardless of load. There's also way too many "hidden" queries across the web in general from companies trying to summarize every email or product.
All of that adds to the energy costs. This equivocation is meant to make people feel less bad about the energy impact of using AI, when so much of the cost is in building AI.
Furthermore, that's the median value--the one that falls right in the middle of the quantity of queries. There's a limit to how much less energy a query to the left of the median can use; there's a significantly higher runway to the right of the median for excess energy use. This also only accounted for text queries; images and video generation efforts are gonna use a lot more.
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in reply to unmagical • • •But do you actually know how much that is? Or are you just assuming it's a lot.
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in reply to ArbitraryValue • • •You should probably not eat things because of how much calories they have or don't have, but because of how much of their nutrients you need, and how much they lack other, dangerous shit. Also eat slowly until you're full and no more. Also move a lot.
We shouldn't need calculators for this healthy lifestyle.
The reason for needing to know which foods are healthy is because... well, we forgot.
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in reply to Armok_the_bunny • • •I did some quick math with metas llama model and the training cost was about a flight to Europe worth of energy, not a lot when you take in the amount of people that use it compared to the flight.
Whatever you're imagining as the impact, it's probably a lot less. AI is much closer to video games then things that are actually a problem for the environment like cars, planes, deep sea fishing, mining, etc. The impact is virtually zero if we had a proper grid based on renewable.
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in reply to Armok_the_bunny • • •Seriously. I'd be somewhat less concerned about the impact if it was only voluntarily used. Instead, AI is compulsively shoved in every nook and cranny of digital product simply to justify its own existence.
The power requirement for training is ongoing, since mere days after Sam Altman released a very underehelming GPT-5, he begins hyping up the next one.
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in reply to Damage • • •Because the training has diminishing returns, meaning the small improvements between (for example purposes) GPT 3 and 4 will need exponentially more power to have the same effect on GPT 5. In 2022 and 2023 OpenAI and DeepMind both predicted that reaching human accuracy could never be done, the latter concluding even with infinite power.
So in order to get as close as possible then in the future they will need to get as much power as possible. Academic papers outline it as the one true bottleneck.
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in reply to Valmond • • •Academia literally got cut by more than a third and Microsoft is planning to revive breeder reactors.
You might think academia will work on the problem but the people running these things absolutely do not.
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in reply to Damage • • •Because demand for data centers is rising, with AI as just one of many reasons.
But that's not as flashy as telling people it takes the energy of a small country to make a picture of a cat.
Also interesting that we're ignoring something here -- big tech is chasing cheap sources of clean energy. Don't we want cheap, clean energy?
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in reply to anomnom • • •Yes, yes it did. And as far as I can tell, it's still belching it out, just so magats can keep getting owned by it. What a world
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in reply to Damage • • •That's not small....
100's of Gigawatts is how much energy that is. Fuel is pretty damn energy dense.
A Boeing 777 might burn 45k Kg of fuel, at a density of 47Mj/kg. Which comes out to... 600 Megawatts
Or about 60 houses energy usage for a year in the U.S.
It's an asinine way to measure it to be fair, not only is it incredibly ambiguous, but almost no one has any reference as to how much energy that actually is.
xthexder
in reply to douglasg14b • • •That's not ~600 Megawatts, it's 587 Megawatt-hours.
Or in other terms that are maybe easier to understand: 5875 fully charged 100kWh Tesla batteries.
taiyang
in reply to Grimy • • •I usually liken it to video games, ya. Is it worse that nothing? Sure, but that flight or road trip, etc, is a bigger concern. Not to mention even before AI we've had industrial usage of energy and water usage that isn't sustainable... almonds in CA alone are a bigger problem than AI, for instance.
Not that I'm pro-AI cause it's a huge headache from so many other perspectives, but the environmental argument isn't enough. Corpo greed is probably the biggest argument against it, imo.
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in reply to Grimy • • •A flight to Europe's worth of energy is a pretty asinine way to measure this. Is it not?
It's also not that small the number, being ~600 Megawatts of energy.
However, training cost is considerably less than prompting cost. Making your argument incredibly biased.
Similarly, the numbers released by Google seem artificially low, perhaps their TPUs are massively more efficient given they are ASICs. But they did not seem to disclose what model they are using for this measurement, It could be their smallest, least capable and most energy efficient model which would be disingenuous.
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in reply to kinther • • •This feels like PR bullshit to make people feel like AI isn't all that bad. Assuming what they're releasing is even true. Not like cigarette, oil, or sugar companies ever lied or anything and put out false studies and misleading data.
Why wouldn't they release this. Even if each query uses minimal energy, but there are countless of them a day, it would mean a huge use of energy.
Which is probably what's happening and why they're not releasing that number.
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in reply to kinther • • •Someone didn't pass statistics, but did pass their marketing data presention classes.
Wake me up when they release useful data.
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in reply to L0rdMathias • • •It is indeed very suspicious that they talk about "median" and not "average".
For those who don't understand what the difference is, think of the following numbers:
1, 2, 3, 34, 40
The median is 3, because it's in the middle.
The average is 16 (1+2+3+34+40=80, 80/5=16).
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in reply to kinther • • •There were people estimating 40w in earlier threads on lemmy which was ridiculous.
This seems more realistic.
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in reply to NotMyOldRedditName • • •Frezik
in reply to kinther • • •None of those advanced nuclear projects are yet actually delivering power, AFAIK. They're mostly in planning stages.
The above isn't all to run AI, of course. Nobody was thinking about datacenters just for AI training in 2010. But to be clear, there are 94 nuclear power plants in the US, and a rule of thumb is that they produce 1GW each. So Google is taking up the equivalent of roughly one quarter of the entire US nuclear power industry, but doing it with solar/wind/geothermal that could be used to drop our fossil fuel dependence elsewhere.
How much of that is used to run AI isn't clear here, but we know it has to be a lot.
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in reply to Frezik • • •...and they won't be for at least 5-10 years. In the meantime they'll just use public infrastructure and then when their generation plans fall through they'll just keep doing that.