A goodbye to kbin ...
Like many others, when the reddit APIcalypse happened, I moved to the fediverse. Like many, I wasn't sure what it really consisted of, how it worked, or what instance to move to. Eventually I decided to sign up with kbin.social. Ernest was welcoming, the instance was friendly with a nice mix of topics, the community was great, having access to both threadiverse and microblogs was great, and I loved it.
And then Ernest started having health issues and the instance became unstable. Eventually I moved to fedia/mbin, which I enjoy a lot, but I just haven't quite felt that same sense of belonging - I don't know, maybe the new job just kept me away a bit too much, or I'm getting old, or just been through too many changes. But I've kept kbin on my launch page, and sometimes I find myself a bit wistful for it.
I poked at the internet, and the kbin.social domain expires in a few days, on 10 September, which I suppose will be a formal end to the project. In memory of kbin, I'd like thank Ernest: wherever you are, I hope you are well and enjoying your life. Thank you for the concepts behind and your work on kbin; I love the bridging of the microblogs and threadiverse. And thank you for making the transition to the fediverse less confusing to this old redditor. I wish you the best in life, and thank you again.
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Scientists tap 'secret' fresh water under the ocean, raising hopes for a thirsty world
This summer, a first-of-its-kind global research expedition followed up on that surprise. Drilling for fresh water under the salt water off Cape Cod, Expedition 501 extracted thousands of samples from what is now thought to be a massive, hidden aquifer stretching from New Jersey as far north as Maine.
It's just one of many depositories of "secret fresh water" known to exist in shallow salt waters around the world that might some day be tapped to slake the planet's intensifying thirst, said Brandon Dugan, the expedition's co-chief scientist.
"We need to look for every possibility we have to find more water for society," Dugan, a geophysicist and hydrologist at the Colorado School of Mines, told Associated Press journalists who recently spent 12 hours on the drilling platform. The research teams looked in "one of the last places you would probably look for fresh water on Earth."
Scientists tap 'secret' fresh water under the ocean, raising hopes for a thirsty world
Deep in Earth's past, an icy landscape became a seascape as the ice melted and the oceans rose off what is now the northeastern United States. Nearly 50 years ago, a U.S.CALVIN WOODWARD (Phys.org)
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Good News: You've got a new source of fresh water.
Bad News: Extraction will cause groundwater-related subsidence of the nearby shoreline, causing rapid erosion and lower elevations. Multiple shoreline properties may be lost.
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Multiple shoreline properties may be lost.
Depending on the area, I don't think I'm going to care much about some rich millionaires' second homes being destroyed. Sure, I don't want to see the erosion and decay of the landscape, but, you know...
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There are already lots of viable strategies for getting rid of brine, they are just more expensive than the naïve approach of having a big pipe on the shore spewing it into the ocean. Diluting it with seawater seems to be the most viable right now.
I wonder if something like a 10 km underwater pipe with small holes in it that only let out a little bit of brine at a time would work. Might be a hassle to lay, at least to start, but I think that once it is in place it could operate without maintenance for decades. And piping is not really that expensive. Perhaps there are already researchers studying it, or it has been proven to not work. It seems like such an obvious idea.
No. My memory is that the English language article was a bit unclear on the details and had several indications that the author didn't actually understand the technology, but someone said a Japanese language article did a better job of explaining it.
Brine and fresh water doesn't make any sense, because you're spending energy to create fresh water with the brine as the waste. Just turning around and recombining it to make evergy again is stupid. You can't even get back as much energy as you used to make the fresh water.
But, spending the energy to create the fresh water, letting people use that water as normal, collecting their waste water as normal, treating the waste water as normal, and then, instead of just dumping the treated waste water into the sea, recombining it with the brine to make energy makes a ton of sense.
For the same volume, almost certainly desalination.
But we use far more water than hydrocarbons.
Billions of dollars to get to it when they could install a desalination plant >.>
Why are we like this?
I’d also like to point out that when you say “the energy mix” you’re not meaning the energy mix used by this project.
If any of our energy is from fossil fuels then increasing the use of energy increases the use of fossil fuels. Even if a new project uses 100% renewable energy it will increase the amount of fossil fuels used until we’ve eliminated them completely.
Cool. Come talk to me when finding water is hard, as opposed to just shipping a sufficient quantity to wherever you need it.
If there's a spot where a major center is next to one of these and nothing else, I suppose it could have a niche. I'm guessing the microbes and geological history are the main thing they're excited about, though.
If you heat it to many times it's boiling point, sure.
Has it occurred to you there may be a good reason this isn't done at scale already?
Study: There is less room to store carbon dioxide, driver of climate change, than previously thought
The study, published Wednesday in the journal Nature, found that global carbon storage capacity was 10 times less than previous estimates after ruling out geological formations where the gas could leak, trigger earthquakes or contaminate groundwater, or had other limitations. That means carbon capture and storage would only have the potential to reduce human-caused warming by 0.7 degrees Celsius (1.26 Fahrenheit)—far less than previous estimates of around 5-6 degrees Celsius (9-10.8 degrees Fahrenheit), researchers said.
"Carbon storage is often portrayed as a way out of the climate crisis. Our findings make clear that it is a limited tool" and reaffirms "the extreme importance of reducing emissions as fast and as soon as possible," said lead author Matthew Gidden, a research professor at the University Maryland's Center for Global Sustainability. The study was led by the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis, where Gidden also is a senior researcher in the energy, climate and environment program.
Study: There is less room to store carbon dioxide, driver of climate change, than previously thought
The world has far fewer places to securely store carbon dioxide deep underground than previously thought, steeply lowering its potential to help stem global warming, according to a new study that challenges long-held industry claims about the practic…Tammy Webber (Phys.org)
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So all that billions of tons of carbon we dig up from the ground, sequestered for 300 million years, doesn't just make it's way back there?
Well fuck!
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Why would they need kerosene? Lol.
I'm picturing them hanging out with old lamps down there.
Ah, an aircraft carrier. That makes more sense.
For whatever reason I forgot about those momentarily. That was weird.
It would actually be simpler to go straight to soot and rebuild the coal beds. Electrolysis to CO followed by reverse Boudouard reaction. EZ.
E-fuel is an important technology of it's own, because planes basically don't work without the energy density burning oil has, but stopping the reduction at hydrocarbons has proven a lot trickier.
Now I'm imagining a world where we produce coal in a factory from the air using solar power at peak times in the desert, the send the coal where it's needed and burn it again later. Literally renewable coal nonsense.
(not a serious proposal btw it just seemed really funny to imagine we're so addicted to the stuff we start making more just to keep using it)
what about storing it in plants like forests and jungles and algae? honest question; im a noob
edit: and bogs
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Add bogs to that list. Worldwide, bogs store more CO2 than forests. Restoring them and making sure they don't dry up (which also would release a lot of gases harmful to the climate) would be a good way to capture CO2.
I don't have any numbers to compare it to other techniques though, sorry.
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We have to complete the gas/crue oil cycle: we must make a freaking pit and beging throwing trees in to free space for more trees
Oil is cursed
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Two factors, basically.
Vegetation rots back out to the atmosphere. Bogs are better in that way, because they trap and grow over their own detritus. Managed forests are also pretty carbon-negative, because the carbon is now trapped in whatever wood products for centuries. Ocean-based stuff has had mixed results, though. You could also char and dispose of your biomass before it rots, but now you're adding complexity.
Which brings us to the second: It might be expensive and slow, relative to just artificially capturing it and shoving it underground. Plants are not known for their speed, and reasonably moist land is expensive.
That being said, it's still a serious contender for how to take care of carbon we've already burned, alongside this and other options like grinding up and spreading certain kinds of stone.
It's all about quantity.
The fossil fuel industry is digging up the plants of forests and jungles and algae that have existed over millennia, then died and decomposed into oil, coal, gas. When you then burn it you release the carbon of hundreds of generations of plant life.
Fossil fuels are dead plant concentrate.
they'll do anything to save us from the climate - create new technology, reinvent the wheel, anything anything EXCEPT LIMITING THE FUCKING EMISSIONS THAT ARE GOING TO KILL US.
Can't do that, nah, bro... just a few more hundred billions gallons... bro come on, just a few more...
GOP may finally succeed in unrelenting quest to kill two NASA climate satellites
GOP may finally succeed in unrelenting quest to kill two NASA climate satellites
One scientist says it’s like buying a car and running it into a tree to save on gas money.Stephen Clark (Ars Technica)
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US special forces killed N Korean civilians during botched mission: Report
US Navy SEALs killed several North Korean fishermen after encountering them by accident during a botched mission, US news outlet reports.
edit: Happened in 2019. Revealed recently.
US Navy SEALs killed North Korean civilians during botched mission: Report
US special forces killed several North Korean fishermen diving for shellfish after encountering them by accident.Al Jazeera
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Peru rejects creation of Amazon reserve to protect uncontacted tribes, drawing Indigenous outcry
BOGOTA, Colombia (AP) — Peru’s Congress rejected Friday a proposal to create a long-delayed Amazon reserve meant to protect uncontacted Indigenous tribes living in voluntary isolation along the border with Brazil.
Advocates for the reserve say the decision leaves the remote forest vulnerable to logging, mining and other incursions, and deals a setback to a plan that has languished for more than two decades despite legal obligations to establish it.
Francisco Hernández Cayetano, president of the Federation of Ticuna and Yagua Communities of the Lower Amazon, said the commission’s rejection “shows its anti-Indigenous face in the 21st century” and signals it does not care about “the environment, the water, the culture and everything as a whole.”
He told The Associated Press that without Indigenous peoples, the Amazon and its tributaries “would already have been wiped out” and called the decision “a very hard blow from our own state, which should instead protect us.” He said his group plans to conduct additional studies and take further action before resubmitting the proposal to the Ministry of Culture, adding that the years of delay have only served to “promote more bills against Indigenous peoples to strip them of their territory.”
The 1.17 million-hectare (2.9 million-acre) Yavari Mirim Indigenous Reserve — roughly the size of Jamaica — would have protected five uncontacted tribes from outside encroachment for the first time. The Matses, Matis, Korubo, Kulina-Pano and Flecheiro, also known as Tavakina, live in voluntary isolation with no sustained contact with the outside world, leaving them highly vulnerable to disease and exploitation.
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The proposal faced pushback from logging concession holders and regional business groups in Loreto, Peru’s largest region, located in the country’s far northeast where the reserve would be located. Some lawmakers also objected, arguing that creating the reserve would block economic development and restrict access to valuable natural resources. Supporters of these industries questioned whether there was sufficient evidence of uncontacted peoples in the area, saying the territory had been tied up for nearly two decades without final approval.
Literally only rejected because of “economic” reasons. Politicians showing their faces.
questioned whether there was sufficient evidence of uncontacted peoples in the area, saying the territory had been tied up for nearly two decades
"it's been 1/5 of a human lifespan, obviously nobody is still there since I haven't seen them."
As if they'd all have died off in 20 years or nobody contacting them somehow makes it fair game?
Indigenous Peruvians: "Hey! You can't do that!"
Peruvian Government: "Hey! How do you even know about this?!"
South Korean President Escalates After Trump Summit, Vows to Target 'Far-Right' Critics, Including Americans
South Korean President Lee Jae Myung pledged this week to go after "far-right" critics both at home and abroad, following his recent White House summit with President Trump. The move has raised alarm among U.S. officials over potential infringement on free expression and transnational repression tactics.Lee met with Trump on Aug. 25 at the White House to discuss trade, defense, shipbuilding and other strategic issues. But tensions were visible — Lee stayed at a hotel instead of the traditional Blair House, was greeted by lower-level officials, and left without attending a formal state dinner.
South Korean President Escalates After Trump Summit, Vows to Target 'Far-Right' Critics, Including Americans
South Korean President Lee Jae Myung vowed to target "far-right" critics at home and abroad after his White House summit with Donald Trump, raising concerns over transnational repression and U.S.–ROK...Eric Hamilton (HNGN - Headlines & Global News)
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Imagine a world, where AI scans your social media. If you're a facist pig that supports MAGA pedophiles, you can't buy anything or get services.
This is a world I would live in and rejoice. Fuck facists, Nazis and POS pedophiles, plus the fucks that defend them.
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No crimes should be thought crimes. All crimes should be action crimes. There can be no middle ground as long as freedom of expression exists.
Doing Nazi shit should get you locked up (or beaten up, or whatever). Talking about it should just get you ridiculed by everybody.
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Are you fucking stupid? That's a terrible system. All it takes is one inevitable bad apple controlling this omniscient omnipotent system for lots of things to go to shit real fast.
The lack of critical thought here is astounding, you're definitely what the US education system wants out of their subjects wtf
You don't deprive racist and Nazis the ability to live in society. At least not permanently and for all equally. The goal should be to educate them and reintegrate them back into society. By force if necessary. And if that's not possible for all then they must remain apart from society by force.
All you would accomplish by your method is creating a right wing terrorist group.
People give Stalin shit for "re-education" camps. And the methods and failures in their implementation can be criticized.
But, the real question really is difficult. What do you actually do with people that want other people killed because of their race/identity or are plotting to overthrow a democratic government that defeated those Nazis? Those people have proven they are not able to live in society. But means need to be available to educate them and reintegrate them if they are capable of change.
So, I don't really agree with the other comments. I don't think what you're saying is "fascism".
There are reasons to protect a society and a revolution from Nazis and those that wish to overthrow it. Hell, one the big reasons we are here today is because liberals love to "both sides" anyone that says "punching a Nazi is good".
They clutch their pearls and pretend that "punching a Nazi makes you just as bad as them".
Those types of "don't resist. No violence" soft liberal takes are what got us here. Its what allows fascism to take control as it has. Normalizing every small escalating act of state violence and condemning anyone that would use violence to resist it.
although critics say these characterizations echo authoritarian sentiments not suited to a U.S. ally.
I dont think the US is a valid authority for figuring out what is and isnt authoritarian.
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Yeah, the US has ALWAYS been super authoritarian in its international dealings and has gone full fascist at home and abroad.
It's not the pot calling the kettle black. It's the leaking barrel of nuclear waste in the municipal water supply calling candy unhealthy.
Sleep with the dogs. Wake up with the fleas.
Donald Trump is the only republican president to win popular in more than 3 decades. Whatever is happening, and whatever is to come, we deserve it.
With that being said, Donald Trump was easy to beat in both elections. He won because democratic party is not a political party, but a private entity. Yes, democratic party itself has argued at the court that it was a private entity.
The first time Trump won, he won because democrats cheated to run Hillary Clinton, a politician that is seen as corrupt.
The second time he won, the democrats did not even have a proper primary.
Long story short, democrats fought harder against Bernie Sanders, than Donald Trump. I am done with voting democrat. I don't care what happens.
P.S. AI bots and paid online trolls, you can reply below telling me how democrats are more innocent than Jesus himself and how they have never done any wrong.
“they” is Russia
Legions of shitty racist American policymakers screening " Russia made us do it"
Seems like USA is losing any allies it had left
You say losing, I say actively driving them away.
I'm...not sure you're reading that headline right, Bub.
Wait, no I'm sorry, it's me who misread it.
All we can say of NK is we know fuckall in the west, and the brief conversations I personally have had with people who've been there weren't particularly illuminating.
If you have a strong opinion on a subject you have weak data on, maybe do some introspection.
North Korea's rewriting of the war where they kicked the imperialist USA's ass and continue to be victorious is not worse than American/South Korean revisionism where a people separated by the US and USSR and the attempt of one side to reunify the people and end US control was met by sheer brutality and cruelty is reduced to "north Korea invaded with Korea".
Go back just a little and ask yourself why America had to fuck with Koreans and draw these borders in the first place, why protecting capitalism is such an "good" thing.
This is after SK was previously signalling they'd cozy up to the Americans lmao.
Love this for everyone involved.
This whole thread is just an example of how successful US propaganda has been at relieving people of the burden of critical thinking.
NK bad, SK good, that's the depth they're willing to go to.
Note that I never defended the ruling party in North Korea, and that I'm simply rejecting your implication that South Korea is somehow involved in dismantling capitalism.
South Korea was created and is supported by the US explicitly to protect capitalism, and the irony of you reacting to my mere mention of NK in the manner I described is completely lost on you.
I never said NK good, I said people reduce conversations about Korea into "NK bad, SK good". And your response is to tell me to go to North Korea.
I invite you to reflect, sincerely. No mocking laughing emoji, no name-calling, go back and read what I said and how you reacted, and seriously read some non colonial history books (I didn't say NK history books...) on what happened in Korea and what South Korea stands for, without the need to defend the Kim dictatorial regime.
That was your point? You made that point by literally saying nothing about SK but responding to my comment by implying I defended NK and then telling me to go there?
Just amazing writing skills you have.
Experts warn the rhetoric echoes tactics used by authoritarian regimes seeking to suppress dissent abroad. The FBI defines such measures as transnational repression, a worrying trend for democracies.
This is this the same FBI who is redacting Trump's name from the Epstein files. South Korea must be doing something right! 😂
Edit: fixing autocorrect gone wild!
New conspiracy:
They have made autocorrect so bad to force us to use AI to write for us so we dont have spelling errors.
Im on aide disaboe it completely
Y’all read the thing?
Subsequently, Lee issued an arrest warrant for a pastor linked to the People Power Party, dismissed all seven four-star generals, and went on the offensive against critics, including Americans. His administration referred six U.S. nationals to prosecutors for sending rice and Bibles to North Korea in June. Their actions were described as aligning with "far-right" ideologies, although critics say these characterizations echo authoritarian sentiments not suited to a U.S. ally.At the national security level, director Wi Sung-lac pledged to identify networks—both domestic and international—that he alleged misinformed President Trump, contributing to his comments about political "purges." Gordon Chang, a prominent China critic and American, was labeled a conspiracist.
I mean, that’s a lot. I know they just had an almost-coup, but still.
It’s clear that “free speech” as it exists is busted and just lets cults snowball on social media. At the same time, these same government levers are dangerous, as is clearly seen in history and other current places in the world.
…I don’t know a solution, really. Well, other than freaking reigning in Big Tech so conspiracy breeding grounds wouldn’t be so ridiculously fertile, but apparently that’s impossible.
Being conservative and/or wanting to have a national identity is fine but don't take it to the extremes, excluding or oppressing others based on origin, religion, sexual orientation, etc. That comes at the expense of fundamental rights and becomes dangerous. Education can fix that.
Good.
Honestly, I have a ton of respect for South Korea, especially after seeing how swiftly and decisively they handled their treasonous president.
(please take me, S. K.)
Prison time, fines and ostracisation: anti-gay law shocks community in African country seen as relatively safe
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/48040109
Jail terms of up to five years for ‘promoting homosexuality’ in Burkina Faso latest in push for ‘family values’ sweeping the continentArchived version: archive.is/newest/theguardian.…
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Prison time, fines and ostracisation: anti-gay law shocks community in African country seen as relatively safe
Jail terms of up to five years for ‘promoting homosexuality’ in Burkina Faso latest in push for ‘family values’ sweeping the continent
Archived version: archive.is/newest/theguardian.…Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
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This is only because the local religion decided that it's going to push it's LGBTQ hate agenda, as it exists in their religious hate book.
Religions are the cause of almost all LGBTQ hate. When they say they're about peace, love, and friendship - that's a LIE!
The US just sanctioned three leading Palestinian human rights NGOs over ICC support
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/48040102
The US is further complicit in Israel's war crimes by providing political and legal cover for them, & we spoke to Amnesty about the sanctions.Archived version: archive.is/newest/thecanary.co…
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The US just sanctioned three leading Palestinian human rights NGOs over ICC support
The US is further complicit in Israel's war crimes by providing political and legal cover for them, & we spoke to Amnesty about the sanctions.
Archived version: archive.is/newest/thecanary.co…Disclaimer: The article linked is from a single source with a single perspective. Make sure to cross-check information against multiple sources to get a comprehensive view on the situation.
US sanctions three Palestinian human rights NGO for ICC support
The US is further complicit in Israel's war crimes by providing political and legal cover for them, & we spoke to Amnesty about the sanctions.Charlie Jaay (The Canary)
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Jamaica's Labour Party wins third term promising tax cuts
KINGSTON, Sept 4 (Reuters) - Jamaica's ruling Labour Party declared victory in general elections, ushering in a third consecutive term for Prime Minister Andrew Holness who ran on promises of tax cuts.
Preliminary figures gave 34 seats to his Jamaica Labour Party and 29 to the rival People's National Party, with a voter turnout of 39.5%, the Electoral Commission of Jamaica said on X.
"This was not an easy victory. Make no mistake about it, this was a fight," Holness said in a televised speech late on Wednesday after People's National Party leader Mark Golding conceded defeat.
Holness campaigned on his government's economic record, saying it had brought prosperity to the Caribbean country with a low unemployment rate of 3.3% and reductions in poverty and crime.
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Reform's Farage vows to start preparing for government to make UK 'great again'
- Populist leader offers clearer view of a possible Reform UK government
- Says it would end arrivals of illegal migrants by boat in two weeks
- Farage, a Brexit veteran and Trump ally, says main parties are in meltdown
- Reform UK riding high in opinion polls, though still behind major parties in donations
- Farage suggests next election might come earlier than 2029
BIRMINGHAM, England, Sept 5 (Reuters) - British populist leader Nigel Farage vowed on Friday to start preparing for government, saying the nation's two main parties were in meltdown and only his Reform UK could ease the anger and despair plaguing the country to "make Britain great again".
To a prolonged standing ovation by a crowd at the annual party conference, Farage for the first time offered a vision of how Britain would be under a Reform government: He pledged to end the arrival of illegal migrants in boats in two weeks, bring back "stop-and-search" policing and scrap net zero policies.
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the wealth disparity is too vast to fi
Oh, it can be fixed. It's just that the major parties aren't yet willing to do what's necessary.
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For some perspective from the UK, only about 30-35% of the UK electorate actually support ReformUK, the party this fascist scumbag currently owns.
And a considerable portion of that % are only supporting because they're being lied to consistently by him, his cronies and a sizeable portion of our news organisations.
35% support would likely be enough to deliver that ass clown into power though as our archaic voting system is shit.
Our other big right-wing party basically committed suicide, and most of their non pensioner voters have since fled to ReformUK, as well as a fairly consistent trickle of politicians defecting from the Conservatives to ReformUK.
If the Conservatives hadn't gone completely insane they may well have split the vote between them, but it all seems to be coalescing around ReformUK at the moment.
most of their non pensioner voters have since fled to ReformUK
It's worth keeping in mind that a large proportion of Conservative voters are pensioners.
You may not be familiar with UK politics so I'll be fair here when I say that there has -always- been a section of the general electorate that have supported this kind of complete bullshit being peddled by Nigel.
Previously it was peddled by UKIP, or the Conservatives, or the Brexit Party, and even in some cases certain fringes of the Labour Party.
Says it would end arrivals of illegal migrants by boat in two weeks
That's the same "in two weeks" that Trump uses for "never."
Reuters withdraws Xi, Putin longevity video after China state TV pulls legal permission to use it
Sept 5 (Reuters) - Reuters News on Friday withdrew a four-minute video containing an exchange between Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping discussing the possibility that humans can live to 150 years old, after China state TV demanded its removal and withdrew the legal permission to use it.
The footage, which included the open mic exchange from the military parade in Beijing marking the 80th anniversary of the end of World War Two, was licensed by the China state television network, China Central Television (CCTV).
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I also like the touch that they reported this themselves.
"We stand by the accuracy of what we published," Reuters said in its statement.
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Statement on discourse about ActivityPub and AT Protocol by W3C SocialCG
Over the past few months in particular, the Social Web Community Group has seen an increase in heated discussions online that have been arguing protocol superiority and creating conflict between ActivityPub and AT Protocol, or trying to promote one over the other. These discussions have generally not been productive, created contention within the community that stands in the way of collaboration, and been a hotbed for conflict, disagreements, and misinformation. There has often been significant biases exhibited within these conversations.ActivtyPub in its current usage does make different design decisions to AT Protocol, but ActivityPub is not necessarily that different from AT Protocol: both are open social web protocols.
There is an entire section of the ActivityPub specification that isn't as well known or widely adopted but which, at a high level, provides fairly similar ideas to those emphasized within the AT Protocol community for separation between data, identity and applications. Recently, a taskforce within the Social Web Community Group has been established to advance what is now known as the ActivityPub API.
Whilst we may have our differences at present, over time those gaps will narrow, as we share a lot more in common than we have differences.
There does not have to be a “winning” protocol. We do not build a better open social web for everyone by fighting and arguing about protocol superiority. That is not how we achieve a better open social web. Instead, we must work together, cross-pollinate and share ideas, and participate within each other's communities with respect and mutual understanding. Arguing between us only emboldens those that seek to derail and destroy efforts to build an open social web.
The practice of collaboration outside of our own groups has a long history within the standards community, whether that is with competing companies working together on standards or protocols, or collaboration between different standards bodies like the W3C and IETF.
There has already been cross-pollination of ideas between the people working on ActivityPub and AT Protocol. For example, AT Protocol adopted an internet draft that was originally written to support the ActivityPub ecosystem, and projects within ActivityPub have adopted some ideas on content labeling and starter packs from the AT Protocol ecosystem.
Both ActivityPub and AT Protocol can and do co-exist. This co-existence is perhaps best emphasized by the outstanding work of Bridgy Fed project, which connects ActivityPub, AT Protocol, and other protocols together allowing for interoperability and community that crosses between protocols. If you wanted to summarise this letter on a t-shirt, it would be “People > Protocols > Platforms”.
This statement is a call for cooling the temperature of discussions and a reminder to be respectful of each other and the huge amount of work everyone is putting in to build a better open social web. We do not win by tearing each other down, which only emboldens and empowers those who do not want either protocol to succeed.
This statement was written following an initial discussion at this month's Social Web Community Group meeting, and has been reviewed by several members of the CG.
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I think a lot of the hate is because of the realities of the real world implementation of the protocols. The fact that AT Proto is mostly run through the main instance with only nominal federation through other relays. And the fact that AT Proto requires the full firehouse replicated to all relays.
I probably prefer most of AT Proto other than these two issues. Regardless I am on mastodon with it bridged over to bluesky
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And the fact that AT Proto requires the full firehouse replicated to all relays.
It doesn't, not even Bluesky runs a full network archive relay anymore because it proved to be too complicated and expensive.
Introduction to AT Protocol
Walkthrough of the various parts and concepts in Bluesky's AT Protocol (ATProto), the types of servers involved and how it all fits togethermackuba.eu
Evan Prodromou commented to say he "disagrees with the purpose of this statement".
I don't understand what he gets out of being so antagonizing. Lovely statement though, nice to see so many signatures.
Create statement on ActivityPub vs AT Protocol discussions (2025-09-05) by ThisIsMissEm · Pull Request #45 · swicg/general
This is the first draft of a statement on the recent conflicts that have been happening between communities on both sides of ActivityPub and AT Protocol, as discussed within this month's Social...GitHub
People are arguing because ATProto is not open. And that couldn't be more clear in the simple fact that BSky hosts tens of millions of users, 99.95% of "the ATmosphere". While AP has <1% of the number of users and yet they're strewn across tens of thousands of servers.
We've already seen the implications of such closure in the silencing of users by foreign govts, silencing of users in an entire state, and enforcement of draconian ID laws on millions of users in the EU. Meanwhile AP is largely unaffected.
And BSky is still taking the Silicon Valley approach of "we'll figure out how to make money later", to which the answers are the same as every other social platform. They're not funded by donations, they're funded by investments from investors who expect to see a profit eventually.
ATProto is open. Bluesky is not.
What we currently see is similar to how ActivityPub looked when it was first drawn up as a protocol: when 99% of users were on Mastodon GmbH's server.
The ten thousands of servers came later. And in theory ATProto is defined open enough that it is possible to implement it independently from Bluesky.
ATProto is open. Bluesky is not.
Not a distinction worth making when 99+% are all on the same server.
when 99% of users were on Mastodon GmbH's server
99% of the 12 users? Again, BSky is tens of millions of users. Why is it you think they're all on the same server?
And in theory ATProto is defined open enough that it is possible to implement it independently from Bluesky.
Then why is no one doing it?
The statement has been... uh... updated. The URL now reads:
A statement was originally published here, however, we have since received an objections to its publication citing that proper processes were not followed, and therefore it has been taken down and republished on Emelia's website instead, whilst we seek community group consensus. When Emelia merged the pull request, she had been granted permission to do so by the co-chair of the Social Web CG, and given the number of signatories with various significant contributions to ActivityPub and ActivityStreams, Emelia believed that there was enough agreement to publish.
It was pretty bizarre how it was published in such a way that it seemed to come from w3c socialcg when really it was just Emelia.
Despite being an activitypub dev I have not seen any of the supposed "heated discussions" probably because I don't spend time on Mastodon trying to boost ATProto. It doesn't seem like a widespread problem to me.
It was signed by a number of people, including OG ActivityPub contributors. I guess you'd have to know what goes on in the mailing list.
Looking around here, there's a lot of ignorant hostility. I am always surprised by how tech-illiterate fediverse fans are. People who feel that that's their peer group probably have a hard time ignoring that background toxicity.
Teen girls are being used as hitwomen in Sweden's organized crime wars: "Young kids are thirsty for blood"
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"I had a case involving a 15-year-old girl recruited to shoot someone in the head," Stockholm prosecutor Ida Arnell told AFP. "She was able to choose the type of mission she wanted, in other words, to aim at the guy's door or his head. She chose the head."
Teen girls are being used as hitwomen in Sweden's organized crime wars: "Young kids are thirsty for blood"
Some 280 girls aged between 15 and 17 were charged with murder, manslaughter or other violent crimes last year in Sweden.CBS News
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That's riot response, not really a good representation.
Also none of those guys are obese.
They were just karma farming by posting whatever would get the drive by up-buttons.
That said: I don't know if these are special Swedish cops or normal Swedish cops, but the gear is more or less the same as our "normal" patrol cops. Bullet/stab resistant vest, pistol, and quasi-military uniform. Ours tend to only wear the high visibility vests when they are newbies disrupting all traffic because they want to play traffic cop rather than just control the lights at an intersection.
Again, I don't know what the baseline in Sweden is, but most civilized countries tend to have a distinction between patrol cops and the ones that have special training to handle armed suspects and the like. Ours... we theoretically have that but also basically every patrol car has an AR-15 and a shotgun in it and our cops love to grab those any time they can even half attempt to justify it.
That said, I assume your special response cops more or less look the same (full tactical gear). You just tend to not see those unless there is an actual meaningful threat.
Some context not in the article
Some 280 girls aged between 15 and 17 were charged with murder, manslaughter or other violent crimes last year
That "other violent crimes" appears to do some very heavy lifting. There are about 40 deaths a year in total in the criminal mileu. Unless I'm interpreting the data wrong
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[Gangs] are even reported to have infiltrated Sweden's welfare sector, local politics, legal and education systems, and juvenile detention care.
Yes, because liberals and conservatives sold everything. They sold it to friends, family, donors, who in turn sell it to gangs.
The Swedish government has proposed new legislation that would allow police to wiretap children under the age of 15 in an attempt to curb the violence
Not only that, children will also now be going to prison in Sweden.
[...] on encrypted messaging sites.
Ah, yes. The head of the Swedish police said in an interview the other day that Signal have no other use than recruiting for assassinations. If you see someone using it, you should call the police.
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That's because it's just more right wing propaganda to keep turning Sweden increasingly fascist.
And they've been working hard to import that shit to Finland. Fuck Sweden.
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She was arrested with a 17-year-old male accomplice, who pulled the trigger
The big example they have and the girl wasn't even the one who did it.
If you see someone using it, you should call the police.
Please do. And stress that you are concerned because politicians told you so
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Against Narcissistic-Sociopathic Technology Studies, or Why Do People *USE* Technologies?
Against Narcissistic-Sociopathic Technology Studies, or Why Do People *USE* Technologies?
Why and how do people USE technologies? This question should be at the center of any thinking about human life with technology. The ways in which people use technologies, after all, determines the social, economic, etc. effects they have.lee vinsel (Peoples & Things)
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The sunscreen scandal shocking Australia - the world's skin cancer capital
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The sunscreen scandal shocking Australia - the world's skin cancer capital
It has shaken consumer trust and raised questions about global sunscreen regulation.Tabby Wilson and Tiffanie Turnbull (BBC News)
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Independent analysis by a trusted consumer advocacy group has found that several of Australia's most popular, and expensive, sunscreens are not providing the protection they claim to, kicking off a national scandal.
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several of Australia's most popular, and expensive, sunscreens are not providing the protection they claim to
That should be the title. Probably a bit shorter but way better than the clickbait original.
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Super common... rnz.co.nz/news/national/403766…
We see the same things happen year after year.
Nine sunscreen brands fail protection tests - Consumer NZ
The Cancer Society is being asked to recall all batches of one of its sunblocks because it doesn't give people the protection claimed on the label.RNZ News (RNZ)
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Like, I get that you're pointing out that both places are sunny and people who evolved light skin for vitamin D production tend to have lived for a long time in places closer to the poles.
But it's still racist or eugenicist to think light skinned people are being punished with skin cancer For going where they don't "belong."
Maybe. To reword the original comment:
"Ha! That race of people has a genetic predisposition to skin cancer. They deserve it because they (or their ancestors, or at least the ancestors of other people of that race) did something bad. Even the ones who emigrated lawfully and assimilated to the local culture. Guess they should have been genetically adapted to their new location to move there."
"Ha! Sickle cell anemia sucks, huh? Guess you should have stayed in a malarial zone where it would protect you. Your kind is not welcome elsewhere."
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Sure, but you just said the same thing as I did. Do you think you can trust brands? Or that any company actually cares for their customers, as long as they can get away with it? Or at all, if the fines are smaller than the profits they gain from exploitation?
The solution is what you mentioned: independent testing (and systematic changes, but that is a whole other topic)
Ah, from this comment:
Sunscreen works, just not if you buy it from shady manufacturers that try to maximize their profits and care about nothing else.
I thought you were saying "don't buy knock off brands and you're safe. When actually you're saying everyone is cutting corners.
Unfortunately the independent testing here happens infrequently (no more than once a year), and it's different brands failing each time.
In general, the failing brands are testing as much lower than their stated SPF ratings. As a consumer, the best chance is probably to buy the highest rating you can find so even if it's lower than stated it's still pretty good.
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don't by knock off brands and you're safe
That is exactly how I interpreted their comment. If they meant something else, some major clarification needs to happen that specifically enriches what their actual point is. Otherwise, how I interpreted it is likely how most everyone is comprehending their argument when reading it at face value.
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Consumer Reports is not a bad place to start.
There are toxin concerns in sunscreen too, some use endocrine disruptors like oxybenzone. Bad for you and where you swim.
"We are deeply sorry that one of our products has fallen short of the standards we pride ourselves on and that you have come to expect of us,"
Yeah nah bro. These companies need to be sued into bankruptcy and the leadership imprisoned.
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I fucking despise corporate speak.
Do they think they are convincing anyone with that shit?
Do they only speak that way in case of it appearing in court documents?
Is that why it’s so nauseatingly neutral?
Do they only speak that way in case of it appearing in court documents?
Oh, absolutely. This has been reviewed by a team of lawyers to minimize any admission of liability.
In a way I’m glad.
Reminds me these “people” are just automatons, money robots.
Slip slap slop seek slide.
Just an umbrella won't protect you from UV rays, let alone if you spend a lot of time outdoors and the umbrella doesn't have a UPF. Even then, you'll have rays reflecting from surfaces. Do you wear long clothes? Do they have a UPF? And where do you live? (Rhetorical question, I don't need to know that of course)
If you are worried about chemicals, try mineral sunscreens. Non nano. They look and perform like shit but this is literally just zinc oxide sitting on top of your skin, reflecting the rays back like a mirror. Nothing is penetrating your skin, nothing is turning photons into heat. Zinc oxide is a compound you can get in a baby cream and a lot of pharmaceutical creams and it is reducing inflammation.
I like the umbrella, don't get me wrong, but depending on what exactly you do it might just be not enough. I'm worried it provides you with a false sense of security. Trust me, Japanese people don't rely on their umbrellas only.
Not mentioned is the active ingredients in your sunscreen, many being endocrine disruptors like oxybenzone.
The ones that physically block with like titanium and aluminum compounds are best for not flooding your body and waters you swim in with hormone disrupting chemicals, especially damaging in coral reefs.
Idk about that companies that use toxic stuff always deny its toxic, then if forced to admit it's toxic say it is in amounts too small to affect you.
I certainly would not take their word for it or people they pay to say so.
It has real effects on coral reefs and other areas where people swim and have it wash off in. And there are a range of endocrine disruptors in lots of goods that do have real effects on people even if not quite noticeable. Amphibians are particularly sensitive to them and can wipe out populations in the low parts per billions.
Idk about that companies that use toxic stuff always deny its toxic
And people claim stuff is toxic when it isn't. This is how you end up with an anti-vaxer in charge of health policies.
If only there were some process we had that could help determine the truth without trusting individual sources.
You must really not know what the fuck is going on.
The solution to pollution is dilution!
humans: there's over 8 billion of us now.
I just read the article from the German consumer organisation "Stiftung Warentest" about that, they write (translated with deepl):
Some products say “without octocrylene”. What do we make of this?Octocrylene is an approved UV filter that became the subject of debate some time ago: initially, critics feared that it could interfere with the hormone system. The EU's Scientific Committee on Consumer Safety (SCCS) has reviewed the scientific studies. According to this, the maximum permitted concentration of octocrylene in cosmetics is still considered safe - it is 10 percent of the total product. It has not been exceeded by any sunscreen product in our tests since 2018.
Scientists have shown that sunscreens with octocrylene can also contain benzophenone - as an impurity or, over time, as a cleavage product of octocrylene. Benzophenone is considered a probable carcinogen. The SCCS demands that suppliers should strictly control their sunscreens and keep the benzophenone content at trace levels.
We test all products containing octocrylene for benzophenone and only found elevated levels once in 2025, in an already defective product. In our test tables, we indicate which products contain which UV filters. This allows consumers to decide for themselves whether they want to use a sunscreen containing octocrylene.
Important: Always dispose of products containing octocrylene after the season. The benzophenone content can increase during storage.
Yeah I read the article, I was just adding the part about the endocrine disruptors cuz that's what I care about. It said an American company actually had guy go to jail for faking results at some point.
The mineral sunscreens also do not rub in at least the ones I have gotten. So a lot of people won't want to use them.
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Was the primary source linked? I couldn't find it in the article.
Here's why US sunscreen sucks. Find some grey market bemotrizinol if you can.
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We tested the SPF claims of 20 sunscreens. 16 failed | CHOICE
One SPF 50+ sunscreen came in with a result of 4.Mark Serrels (CHOICE Australia)
Assonance is the repetition of identical or similar phonemes in words or syllables that occur close together, either in terms of their vowel phonemes (e.g., lean green meat) or their consonant phonemes (e.g., Kip keeps capes ). However, in American usage, assonance exclusively refers to this phenomenon when affecting vowels, whereas, when affecting consonants, it is generally called consonance.
Huh, TIL that the US uses a different definition than the rest of the world. I'd been wondering if you and I just had vastly different vowel pronunciations.
Whoa. I'm American and I just discovered that I had been using that word...uh...wrong for my region but right for the rest of the world? I thought it was phonemes in general, and that the vowel thing was an archaic usage. Interesting.
I knew it wasn't alliteration, since it isn't all the first syllable sound. But it's always fun to learn new stuff about the language I've been speaking for nearly forty years.
Ultra Violette's Lean Screen SPF 50+ Mattifying Zinc Skinscreen, a facial product that Rach says she used exclusively, was the "most significant failure" identified. It returned a result of SPF 4, something that shocked Choice so much it commissioned a second test that produced a similar reading.Other products that did not meet their SPF claims included those from Neutrogena, Banana Boat, Bondi Sands and the Cancer Council - but they all rejected Choice's findings and said their own independent testing showed their sunscreens worked as advertised.
An investigation by the Australian Broadcasting Corporation found that a single US-based laboratory had certified at least half of the products that had failed Choice's testing, and that this facility routinely recorded high test results.
Everyone's skin responds differently to the product, she adds, and it's one that is almost always being stress-tested - by sweat, water, or makeup.
It is very difficult to rate effectively for the same reasons. Historically, it has been done by spreading the sunscreen on 10 people at the same thickness, then timing how long it takes for their skin to start burning both with and without the product applied.
While there are clear guidelines as to what you are looking for, Dr Wong says there is still a lot of variability. That is down to skin texture or tone, or even the colour of the walls, and "different labs get different results".
But she says results are also quite easy to fake, pointing to a 2019 probe by US authorities into a sunscreen testing laboratory which resulted in the owner being jailed for fraud.
Many sunscreen brands from all over the world use the same manufacturers and testing labs - and so this issue is unlikely to be isolated to Australia, she adds.
S’pore, India exchange five MOUs, agree on ‘ambitious’ road map to chart next phase of ties
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Five agreements were signed, covering digital assets innovation, green shipping, aviation training, skills development, and space industries cooperation.
S’pore, India exchange five MOUs, agree on ‘ambitious’ road map to chart next phase of ties
Both prime ministers expressed commitment to taking bilateral ties to a new level. Read more at straitstimes.com.Goh Yan Han (ST)
Tech leaders take turns flattering Trump at White House dinner
Tech leaders take turns flattering Trump at White House dinner
CEOs from Apple, Google, Meta, Microsoft, and OpenAI praised President Donald Trump for his AI policies at a White House dinner.Lauren Feiner (The Verge)
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Apple Thanks President Trump for Being the Most Pro-Technology President Ever; Introduces the Trump Channel on Apple TV
Cupertino, California — Apple today announced a bold new partnership with the 47th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump, thanking him for his unwavering support of technology, innovation, and large gold letters on buildings. In recognition of his tireless contributions—like personally inventing the iPhone before Steve Jobs “borrowed” the idea—Apple is proud to launch The Trump Channel on Apple TV.
“President Trump is, without question, the most pro-technology president the world has ever seen,” said Tim Cook, staring blankly into the middle distance. “His visionary policies—such as renaming Wi-Fi to ‘Trump-Fi’ and personally boosting 5G by standing next to a cell tower—have created the greatest jobs numbers in the history of silicon. Truly, nobody’s ever seen anything like it.”
The Trump Channel will feature:
Exclusive Original Programming, including The Apprentice: Cabinet Edition and Shark Tank but Everyone’s a Trump.
24/7 Coverage of the Jobs Report, with real-time updates on how many people are thanking him with tears in their eyes.
Epstein Documentary Section, labeled “FAKE HOAX,” automatically skipping to golf highlights at Mar-a-Lago.
A dedicated Covfefe Mode, where subtitles don’t make sense but still claim to be “the best words.”
Apple TV+ subscribers will get access to the Trump Channel at no extra charge—because as Trump has pointed out, “Tim Apple owes me big league.”
Availability
The Trump Channel on Apple TV will roll out starting today in the U.S., with international launches pending approval from leaders who appreciate “big beautiful deals.”
How Trump's tariffs are pushing food and drink exporters closer to China
cross-posted from: lemmy.zip/post/48001679
Agricultural brokers have told the BBC that they have seen a surge in interest in trade with China from exporters around the world.
How Trump's tariffs are pushing food and drink exporters closer to China
Agricultural brokers tell the BBC there has been a surge of interest from exporters in trade with China.Osmond Chia (BBC News)
EU slaps Google with €2.95B fine despite Trump trade threat
EU slaps Google with €2.95B fine despite Trump trade threat
Brussels hammers U.S. search giant after internal Commission feud.Jacob Parry (POLITICO)
Eh, could be better.
EU could take a lesson from Russia just this once.
Russia fines Google more than entire world's GDP
The mind-boggling figure has been levied due to the company restricting Russian state media on YouTube.Graham Fraser (BBC News)
"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership
A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.
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EX2:
Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.
Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership
Linus Sebastian, the founder of the Linus Tech Tips YouTube channel, has spoken out about its recent decline in viewership, describing it as a "very dramatic shift.Aarnesh Shrivastava (Sportskeeda)
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I haven't seen the video yet either, but that's not bias, that's Louis Rossmann. He always speaks like that. He's not a random tech YouTuber. He's very provocative and holds a cult-like fanbase (though I haven't watched enough of his to have an opinion whether that's warranted; I personally don't like provocative rage content but that seems to be all the rage).
Also, there's extensive chaptering with a title for each.
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Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.
Tl;dr: please, no one watch Linus showing his whole ass.
Are you on his staff or something, or just a fanboy/flying monkey?
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Insults because you still don't have anything?
You're having some sort of brainfart. The youtube link literally includes receipts of Linus, in his own words, being a cunt.
Lol get off your high horse if you are going to act like this much of an ass.
No high horse required. A presentation of the facts works, as is.
This was me casually dropping some shade on some dickhead, who i barely know or care about.
Would you like me to lean into spotlighting his history of being a narcissistic cunt? We both know that there is no shortage of dirt out there.
Just ask, and I'll add more credible links as I find them.
Or if that doesn't suit your fancy, consider shutting your yip yap.
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There are a ton of videos about his shittiness going back years from quite a few people, you could easily find them if you wanted to.
But I don’t get why you don’t just admit you don’t care about that history, it’s a lot less effort than whatever it is you’re trying to convince people of here.
Where did Linus touch you? You still keep referring to some magic videos but you can't say one example. He is living rent free in your head and you are trying your best. You tech Jesus fan boy or something?
Go on and explain what's the worst thing he has done? I'm your words, not some long boring gossip video about nothing.
Funny you should bring up touching people in that context, because sexual harassment is the reason LTT stopped producing videos for awhile.
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Of course, that article also covers the Gamers Nexus investigation into LTT taking money to give biased reviews.
I would keep going, but we both know you aren't going to read or watch those videos, so this comment is more for the other people who might be curious about it. And honestly I think your behavior makes the arguments against LTT look better, for no other reason than assholes tend to be followed by smaller, less famous assholes.
Linus Tech Tips pauses production as controversy swirls
The YouTube channel Linus Tech Tips has halted production after controversies over ethics and accuracy in reporting, spurred further this morning by accusations of sexual harassment experienced at the company.Alex Cranz (The Verge)
LTT had a 3rd party investigate that and there was nothing wrong but that doesn't matter to you does it?
In August 2024, former Linus Tech Tips (LTT) social media manager Madison Reeve made allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior in a tweet thread. LTT hired an outside investigator and conducted a review, which found no evidence to support Reeve's claims. The investigation did find some administrative errors and misunderstandings during Reeve's onboarding
Again Steve and Louis do a podcast together and facts don't matter. Steve is upset at Linus for being ignored at an event and he Louis to write a hit piece. This is obvious why you don't want to type any exact issues because the bad stuff has been proven as false allegations.
ah, yes, the good old "we paid somebody to listen to our side of the story and they naturally found nothing wrong".
as I said, I didn't post that link to convince you, because you're not interested in considering it. the link is for everyone else. you can keep on believing whatever it is you want, but since you can't edit my comment you don't have any way to stop anyone else from considering the facts.
you would know if you had been paying attention to our conversation.
hey what about the time LTT auctioned off property that belonged to someone else without asking them, what's your take on that?
You mean the prototype that was planned to just be given to them but was sold for a charity auction then LTT offered an apology and tried to monetarily compensate billet labs?
This wasn't sold maliciously nor for profit. Billet labs was upset since it was ip but initially said LTT could retain the product and LTT didn't understand that billet labs didn't want them to sell it.
Next one? There are YouTubers that hire known pedos for kids shows or make content pissing off locals or desecrating dead people but you have a problem with someone doing ad reads for a product that he might not actually enjoy? Are you Steve?
it figures you would be OK with that, since you were OK with the sexual harassment. what's a little theft when you've already dismissed unwanted sexual contact, amiright?
the reason I'm still talking with you is because I want to demonstrate to everyone one of the other controversies around LTT, that being the toxic fanbase that's as rabid as Elon's or Trump's. and you played along fantastically, dutifully playing the part of fanboy for everyone to see. so for that, I thank you.
but now that you've done your job and played your role, I don't have any further use for you, so ta-ta and farewell!
whatever rationalization for sexual harassment you’ve prepared
Wow, well now I know for sure you are not arguing in good faith. Have a nice day.
It's a detailed account of Linus being awful, his heavy usage of DARVO whenever called out for shit behavior.
I won't summarize, as Louis has receipts for all of it.
I suspect that Linus and Mr. Beast have an identical capacity for empathy.
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I guess I'm not that into that so wouldn't find something to interest me on youtube. I probably don't bother watching 99% of my feed, and just use YouTube when I need to reference something these days.
Like finding out a location from a video game or looking up a recipe to cook. I don't find myself liking majority of the "big YouTube as a job" type channels, and videos I tend to view when searching has been more "this is my only upload because it seemed interesting" type videos.
I cut my sub list down over the years to like 20.
I think I just don't typically like YouTube type content for entertainment compared to the average viewer.
It's use to me is more as a resource for when I need a video guide. So I'm more likely to get annoyed by videos that don't get to the point and seem drawn out and seem like informercials likely due to the reason I'm searching increasing the chances of that type of content.
My blocklist is more valuable than the subscription feed for that reason.
Fair enough, I use mine as basically a replacement for any other streaming platform, so it's more about entertainment than raw usefulness.
My sub list is ever growing, at about 150 now. I don't watch a lot of what's put out by them but that's where I start when I want to watch something. The main YouTube feed is... Unreliable at best
Oh the rossman video.
I hate how obsessed on dumb shit he gets. The man is legitimately doing great work usually, and then he takes something minor that an otherwise ally says or does and blows it out of proportion.
This man would have made a great tankie. Unfortunately he made a whole 20 minute video on why AOC is stupid for saying unskilled labor doesn't exist and then explaining exactly the points she was making.
I legitimately love this mans work and I wanna support him, but man is he petty.
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I just don't get suggested his content anymore. Then again I just found out every channel I've ever subscribed to is under a seperate category and usually not under the main YouTube page..
Basically I'm blocking every channel I've subscribed to without ever realising..
youtube seems to be pushing alot more AI garbage than normal lately as well. they just made a contract with Israel to allow them to flood the site with pro-zionist propaganda.
youtube is also part of the problem, as many videos is made using googles AI video generator.
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.m.youtube.com
This is now the second time in a short period of time that I stumble across someone who didn't know the subscriptions page existed. Or at least that is how I interpreted what you said.
I always thought it was obvious that the main feed is for discovering new stuff based on watch history and the ol trusty content can be found in the sub box. It is always fascinating to see how differently people use software I use daily while thinking it is how everyone does it
The subscribed view has shorts filling most of it, it became useless
I just use RSS to track my subscriptions instead
Just use the subscriptions tab (yes, this video does talk about it).
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
"I'm having a very difficult time wrapping my head around that it is possible that there has been no change whatsoever to how our videos are being served."
Honestly I think that's it. Technology has changed. My interests have shifted. They're not relevant to me.
I would argue their quality of content has dropped a fair bit, their click bait makes it impossible to know what the videos are actually about, or their space is too saturated, but those are only small pieces to the larger picture. I don't watch because I don't want to anymore.
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The problem is that there aren't any really viable alternatives. YouTube has three major advantages and all three are necessary. First and most critically it has a viable business model (that is it has a way to earn money to pay creators). It's a shitty business model, but it is viable which already puts it ahead of most services that are coasting on VC funds and hoping they'll trip over a business model before they go bankrupt. Second it has the infrastructure and capital to actually serve content. Running a video streaming service is the single largest bandwidth consumer you could possibly come up with and that means considerable network infrastructure costs, to say nothing of the storage demands. Third it has network effect going for it. Nobody is going to watch videos on your platform if there's only a couple dozen of them total. The sheer size and scope of YouTube means no matter what you're looking for you can find something to watch. It's a one stop shop for AV content.
Every single competitor to YouTube has failed on one of those points, usually the first one, rarely the second. The last service I saw come close to hitting all three was Vimeo, but it flamed out not even a decade after it launched. Twitch.tv is struggling to make their accounting work and isn't even a direct competitor because they're pushing hard for live streams as opposed to pre-recorded videos. Alternatives like PeerTube have no business model and will never attract creators or a mainstream audience. Paid hosting platforms like Floatplane are replacements for traditional video streaming services like Amazon Video or Netflix not really platforms where just anybody can set up a channel and start posting videos.
To paraphrase a famous saying, YouTube is the worst public video streaming service except for every other one. Until someone comes along and figures out how to make enough money to reliably pay creators and has enough capital to actually serve that content reliably and in high quality YouTube isn't going anywhere.
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Oh I didn't know that was the case. I've only really started using it, but I think peertube.wtf hosts some for you. I just started a new account with fedimovie today — because I can't seem to access wtf for some reason — and I think it said on their sign up page that they have 100gb for me to use.
So, when you say self-host, would I have to have an instance of Peertube myself, or can I have an account with an instance and host just the videos?
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Third it has network effect going for it. Nobody is going to watch videos on your platform if there’s only a couple dozen of them total. The sheer size and scope of YouTube means no matter what you’re looking for you can find something to watch.
Yeah, though I think that you could avoid some of that with a good cross-video-hosting service search engine, as I don't think that most people are engaging in the social media aspect of YouTube. YouTube doesn't have a monopoly on indexing YouTube videos.
But the scale doesn't hurt them, that's for sure.
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there is, maybe, a market for more specialized, niche platforms...but it's a huge maybe.
nebula seems to be doing very well, but again: highly specialized content, and a closed/curated platform.
other than serving video content, it has little in common with yt...hence the big "maybe"!
and there's been a few similar attempts in recent years, which i don't think really went anywhere either...
Honestly, YouTube is the “least bad” of most commercial social media.
If people go to Twitter or Discord or whatever instead, that would be awful.
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If anyone wants to be part of the solution: !peertube@lemmy.world
My heavily biased take is I like peertube. And like the creators on it.
youtube is already replacing it with AI slop, and propaganda. they increased it. thats where the money is, other than getting it from the major television networks.
i think history buff channels were calling out there were clones of his channel in AI form.
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I dunno. Something about the content I think.
A few years back some of their content was fun and interesting. Now lately it's all either "here's a bunch of comparisons of hardware you can't even afford" or "Linus puts some ridiculous tech in his own personal house - thanks for subsidizing his home improvement projects by the way"
I will still watch an occasional video but there are other tech related channels that I enjoy a lot more.
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Then why is Yahtzee complaining about the same issue? He does games, not tech: youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo
Has the Second Wind channels quality gone down too, AT THE EXACT SAME TIME as LTT?
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I was never a fan of Linus tech tips. He always seemed like a weird guy. I did watch that video where he totally fucked his Linux installation by being really dumb. The package manager warned him that he was about to destroy his system and made him type something like "Yes, I know what I'm doing". He then reacted like, "why would Linux do this to me!? It's so hard!"
Either a paid shill or an absolute moron.
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He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.
The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore, and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating. And thats not even taking any of the interpersonal issues, or legal drama from recent history
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VR still is it. If you have €€€€
Take the bigscreen beyond 2.
A vr-headset starting at 1300 (incl. taxes/import).
Uhhh yeah.
Not happening for what little VR could offer me in my current situation (and I don't watch porn).
And all the big "innovations" have been in venture capitalist bubbles like AI, NFTs, etc. or soured by the companies and people behind them. I hear SpaceX has been doing some cool stuff, but all I can see is Musk making a flying Cyber Truck for his ego on NASA's dollar. One of the reactors at 3 Mile Island is coming back online, the first US nuclear power project in who knows how many years...in order to fuel Microsoft's AI data centers.
Advancements in tech used to be about pushing the boundaries of what we're capable of. Now, it's all about pushing the boundaries of how much money the oligarchs can stuff into a single pocket.
He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore
He has literally publicly talked about this many times, he is very much aware of this fact and has stated that he's always looking for things that he can try and make interesting.
and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating
On this part, I honestly don't quite get it. It's definitely a bit more corporate now, they are a 100 person company, but when it comes to the videos, I don't really see what else you'd want them to do? Sure they have some sponsored videos every now and then that are just showcases of a specific product, but even then I typically find them relatively interesting. And they still have a lot of videos where they're trying to build novel stuff and thinkering. Yeah, sure, it's typically on a higher level than what the average Joe would be capable of doing in their backyard, but I still feel like there's a place for it. Take one of the more recent videos, the one with the double-decker table. It's extremely cool to me, they took a regular table and a sit-to-stand desk, put one on top of the other, and made effectively two desks in one, one for gaming and one for a hobby. It's not something I'd build for myself, but it's a really fun concept.
The most recent findings from Brodie Robertson were that the vieas to likes ratio skyrocketed, something that LTT also has confirmed on their side in the newer stream, and what seems like similar behavior in DarkviperAU's channel. It seems that the likes are the same or higher, and the actual pay for the ads are basically the same, but the views are reduced. It's as if views were the same but are being displayed lower than usual.
Not that most people here would care apparently, because the majority just wants to shit on Linus above actually having any worthwhile look into any of this stuff
Edit: Some direct links to said videos for whoever is interested
- youtu.be/1hVwUjcsl6s
- youtu.be/qPen-cHdYmk?t=1074 (timestamp 17:54)
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Yahtzee is complaining about the same issue: youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo
Something has changed in the last few months
Ya, I can't believe how negative people are towards LTT. That channel is the reason I de-googled when I did, dove into home assistant, even checked out Linux (and now use arch full time by the way). I'm not super interested in defending a company let alone a YouTube personality, but like Jesus Christ some most of the people commenting negatively about LTT need to chill the fuck out. They're not that bad, they clearly pay people well, they're open and honest about most shit. If your bullshit detector is going off with LTT I think it needs tuning because you're probably hitting a lot of false negatives IMHO.
I have no doubt being as wealthy as Linus is is changing him, I have no doubt that's effecting the company, but there's nothing I'm seeing as a regular watcher that is glaringly bad or evil and I recognize in myself I'm actively starting to default to "fuck off" for millionaires so like ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌. I don't think the channel is getting grandfathered in on that clause either, they just seem to like people doing their best.
I don't like Linus's time-theft stance as of late, the most recent multi monitors vid had a comedic discussion between him and an employee and I recognize his job in that role is to be the straight man and say time charging fraud is theft or whatever but it feels out of touch. That's a negative thing I can point to I guess. Am I gonna consider Linus or LTTY evil or shit because he's vocal about theft being theft even though I think corpos can fuck off because they're getting more productivity then we're getting paid - no, no I'm not.
The one Billet Labs confirmed they were never supposed to return and the whole thing was a misunderstanding (again, according to Billet Labs), that one?
But that's how all drama works, the drama is popular, the later resolution is not seen by many.
a bunch of ppl with STIs
Hey man, don't bash the WRX! It's a cool car 😉
But yeah, blocking ads is the only way to watch YT. I swore off twitch once uBO stopped working there.
What does that have to do with being able to watch videos on a free ad supported platform?
Also this isn't just something happening to LTT, this is happening across the board with many many channels speaking up about drop in views. YouTube did something and it's hurting content creators both large and small
If someone can't afford to be part of the hobby then they arnt goanna watch videos on that hobby
They're going to move on. Find a new hobby that they can't afford to participate in. Then find new creators that do content in that new hobby
Tech has priced out most of the lower and lower middle class. We can't play anymore so we need to find something new to do
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It may not be what that person meant, but, I kinda agree it might be a factor. The free experience has done nothing but become more and more terrible on youtube. The ads have become truly insufferable, and the UI is actively working against you. TV app in particular is borderline unwatchable.
I have always watched YouTube for free, and I am at a point where I am considering ditching the thing completely, because I am not paying another (quite expensive) subscription for it. I haven't yet, but it has certainly slowed down how much I watch.
It's so bad it's even questioning some uses I had for the platform. I used to watch a video while I eat, stuff like that. What's the point if I barely make it out of the initial ad tunnel just before dessert? And when I pause for just a minute to get something, I am immediately hit with another ad break as I resume?
I think it’s a loss of talent and shuttering of shows across his company’s channels that are leading it. I can only watch so many “reporting verbatim the benchmark results of new tech product” or “I made my family a sleeper desk” or “dark horse home theater for my kid” videos. I’d much rather watch the highly produced “Mac Address” videos with Jonathan or retro gaming systems and setups videos with Anthony but they aren’t a part of LMG anymore.
Riley is doing well on tech linked but he’s talented enough to get a real job and after that, what’s the last interesting thing that LMG has? WAN show clips?
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Doesn't help he has actually gotten dumber over the years.
He very clearly has fallen out of touch and basically is just a personality at this point.
So your not even watching a tech enthusiast millionaire dick around with things.
Your just watching a rich white dude dick around with tech and his company.
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Would it be any better if he's black?
Why racially profile if it doesnt matter?
Edit: I like how I am getting downvoted for asking why the mentioned skin color is of any importance.
If a dude or dudette is a rich asshole it doesnt matter if they are yellow, white, black or green. Asshole stays asshole.
Folks here are missing the point blaming LTT for the drop. This has been a sudden drop, too sudden to be fatigue or audience tastes changing.
Also I can see the same on my own channel. About 2 weeks ago views suddenly dropped to a third of the usual views. And even high performing videos have had trouble getting views since. Even videos with a high impression percentage are getting lower than average views.
The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.
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I think his org has consistently done its best and I still tune in across the channels. I know that I couldn't do better with matched resources, without experience and a lot more considerations.
Listening to everyone hate on a whole media group puzzles me a bit.
"..
Regarding LTT, we are simply going to state the relevant facts:
On 10th August, we were told by LTT via email that the block had been sold at auction. There was no apology.
We replied on 10th August within 30 minutes, telling LTT that this wasn't okay, and that this was a £XXXX prototype, and we asked if they planned to reimburse us at all.
We received no reply and no offer of payment until 2 hours after the Gamers Nexus video went live on 14th August, at which point Linus himself emailed us directly.
The exact monetary value of the prototype was offered as reimbursement. We have not received, nor have we asked for any other form of compensation."
Time-stamped emails were provided as proof.
All correct, and not conflicting with what I said. For the avoidance of doubt here is the email where Billet Labs confirmed they told them they could keep it: imgur.com/a/mF2tz4J
Then they changed their mind, and your timeline follows.
The email says they could keep it for further testing, not sell it.
LTT claimed they offered to pay for it but the time stamps prove they didn't get an offer to pay for it until after GN publicized the mistake.
Never acknowledged it? He immediately put a pinned comment attributing Gamers Nexus when notified of it, and GN thanked him for it, which any reasonable person would take as him being happy with the resolution.
It was a piece of info from GN's video, not a copied script though.
Our Response to Linus Sebastian | GamersNexus
GN Extras Our Response to Linus Sebastian January 21, 2025 Last Updated: 2025-01-21 GamersNexus responds to Linus Sebastian's WAN Show segment Evidence Included PLAGIARISM: Receipt #1 - History of Failure to Resolve IssuesDATA ERRORS: Receipt #2 - Hi…gamersnexus.net
"quick action"
3 years later and only after Linus made vague legal threats to GN about Honey requiring GN to publicize LTT's past bad behavior.
"Plagiarism by Linus Tech Tips of GamersNexus content wherein we previously privately reached out without resolution"
They had privately contacted LTT in the past. LTT ignored it until GN made a public video years later.
yes, ive seen an increase in AI slop + propaganda too, and yt also is allow ISRAEL to make pro-IDF propaganda to flood the site now. 45million$ contract from NETANYAHU.
AI slop trailers, AI bizarre animal injures, GOOGLE veo AI videos.
I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I am talking about videos with just a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent of my recommendations or so.
I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.
Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.
There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.
Noticed those as well.
Usually the side bar recommends the usual bunch or related content but then there is this totally random video of some small channel with 10 maybe <1000 views doing a let's play or some random content which is completely unrelated to the content I watching at the moment.
Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.
In the case of LTT: Not everyone can absorb the cash flow for an ULTIMATE PETABYTE MULTI-NODE STORAGE SERVER BUILD.
I honestly enjoy those as uneducated as some videos are, those infrastructure videos are really enjoyable for the amount of jank.
The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.
In their video, Yahtzee said it could be related to Restricted Mode on youtube suddenly turns on by itself. Or at least that's their hypothesis, since they checked that if that mode is on, a lot of their videos vanished from their channel.
Tierzoos theory is because formats that were good for the past years (8-10 min videos) are less popular now with the advent of shorts. And people are watching yt on their TVs now.
Demographics are also changing. Wish there were more actual data. Other than the very end result which is views down over many channels all at once.
There is a difference between those willing to change something and those trying something out.
I use Apple devices at work and the sometimes ass-backwards way of hotkeys or UI decisions is really aggravating annoyance in regards to logically understanding the task needed to do something comparison to another OS like Windows.
E.g. deleting the app data of an app on iOS.
Why can't I just reset a damn app? Why do I need to uninstall and download it again from the store??
They've spent the last several years playing into "The Algorithm", to the point where most videos felt unnatural. Tight posting schedules affecting quality, topic choices, sudden endings, etc.
Not that I care, but I'm curious to see if they will switch to making content they actually care about, or double down and start doing proper brainrot.
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Yes exactly. They provide a service, you pay for it by watching ads and facilitating personalised advertising.
In comparison, some of the books I’ve bought have cost more per book than a month of YouTube premium, so the value isn’t THAT bad on YouTube.
Maybe you should stop posting altogether
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YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.
It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long.
Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.
I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.
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I assume you're using a "smart" TV.
Those things only exist to take power away from you. You should hook up a PC or laptop to your TV with a wireless keyboard and mouse so you're not being herded by techbros.
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Don't listen to this person. He's trying to make things unnecessarily complicated because he doesn't know any better.
We don't see people using keyboards for their TVs, instead we see them slowly type with on screen keyboards. A remote control is not going to alleviate this and will make setup significantly more complicated.
I'm going to block this user now, so I won't get to see his reply. I've been on the internet long enough to recognize people like him for what they are and move on.
Lol you’re the one plugging a super inconvenient solution as if it should be the default, I just took it farther to ridicule yours. It’s great that you can’t stand criticism of your questionable ideas and have to block others. Means your ideas aren’t too be taken seriously.
Have you considered that the average TV user sits down after a hard day and doesn’t want to troubleshoot a wireless mouse, nor boot a computer separately from turning on the TV? The world out there is rough, your TV is supposed to be the one thing that just works and numbs it down for you so you can pretend things are fine.
Instead of using those, you could be using a free streaming site. You'll get more content and it's easier to set up.
Just type in the URL, and search for what you want.
Here's one of the best sites I've found: hydrahd.io/ I guarantee they have significantly more offerings than either apple tv or your plex.
Free streaming sites are awful. I prefer my way thank you.
And I don’t mind paying for things, just not getting ripped off.
I buy things on 4k that are special, then on iTunes for in between and then high seas everything else.
I have a decent home server.
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Free streaming sites are awful.
No they aren't, lol. But whatever floats your boat.
I'll be over here enjoying more things for a cheaper price and helping others do the same.
It is so sad that isn't true anymore. I know what usenet was, but today it is just a collection of paid companies. You can really tell because of all the honored take down requests.
Is there even a university or other public entity connected anymore?
Free streaming sites aren't building empires by ripping off useful idiots. They simply make less money.
So why do you think they set all of that up for you to freely stream torrents? What is in it for them?
This is part of your conditioning to be skeptical of whenever you see a better deal. Rather than admitting that you've been taken for a ride, you get angry at everyone else who has higher standards.
Keep wasting your money on things you could be getting for free while not thinking you're a tool. It's the consumerist way.
Really? I have a bridge to sell you. Talk about a tool...
And you are talking to me like I watch videos all the time. I have better things to do, like making websites to lure people in like you.
One thing I would recommend is getting isponsorblocktv on your server. It skips the ad reads within the YouTube content and works on Apple TV.
Every year or so I look for a tracker doing YouTube or a sonarr YouTube fork. The instinct to hoard data is strong. But none have worked consistently for me.
Ah good shout, I remember looking in to that a while back but never went ahead.
The hard thing about needing premium is I could likely easily not have it, but the scumbags limit downloads (cache) on YouTube kids to premium members, which comes in handy in a pickle for sure for my daughter.
Another tip; Orion, the browser developed by Kagi can install proper Firefox extensions. You can have the real full uBlock Origin extension in the browser.
Edit: I believe it can handle Chromium extensions as well but who cares about those?
I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.
Useful idiot mentality. They're charging you that money to maximize profit, not because it's necessary to provide the service.
Your "fivers" are paying for their nicer campuses, executive bonuses, and lavish business trips/vacations. Analysts also use it as an excuse to charge more, since the data shows that people like you are "happy/proud" to get ripped off.
I wish proles were smarter and a bit more mean so they could better recognize how they're being taken advantage of and how often they support their oppressors.
Too many of you go along with getting taken for a ride because you want to fit in and avoid conflict. Businessmen take advantage of that mentality every day.
Yes, large scale video hosting is notoriously free to provide.
YouTube the service absolutely has a cost to it. It’s been born by the owners at first and then people who watch ads. It got profitable when they started showing more ads. Premium is a way to get out of watching ads. You and I use adblockers and it’s fine but if a significant share of people did, the cost for paying users would have to keep increasing.
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How do I turn that feature on?
I keep turning off captions off, and every few days they are automatically turned back on.
- Youtube
I have premium through a page that makes family groups and you pay a lot less. From time to time there is an issue with the group and you spend like two days without premium until it is fixed.
During those periods YT is unwatchable and I skip using it until the issue is fixed
for Android (TV): smart tube next
For a browser (Firefox): ublock origin.
Have not seen an ad in years, and i have not paid a cent to youtube.
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After some time it "learns" you don't want it.
But what grinds my gears instead are auto-translated video titles.
Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
Annoying as fuck but managable.
Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
Google has always made it extremely clear that they don't believe it's possible for the human brain to know more than one language, and that anyone who claims to know more than one is a liar and a witch and has no place in their platforms.
Yep agreed.
It's downright disgusting to browse youtube without premium or an adblocker.
Sadly I need premium simply because I am watching on an Android TV and I am not trusting third party clients with my google account.
Too much stuff is associated with it (monetary)
On broadcast TV, a 30 minute timeslot had only 23 minutes of actual content and 7 minutes of ads.
That's what we're heading back to. 20% of the watch time is ads.
I only pay them because I watch a stupid amount of YouTube. Hours a day, many more hours when not working.
If those ads come back while I'm paying though, the flag flies.
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I dunno, I realized a long time ago this is just a business for the people engaging in it.
Of course they're making more money than they need and are partying as much as possible with it.
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They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.
This would pretty much confirm that they've stopped counting viewers who use adblockers.
youtube is consumed more on tvs than other devices now worldwide
Where do you get this from?
One quick search revealed this forbes report earlier this year\
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Ok, is it possible if most people aren't blocking ads, then maybe it is the ads themselves?
There are so many and they are getting longer. I wouldnt sit around to watch videos if they are interrupted every minute. The average rando probably goes back to TikTok, Facebook, or Instagram if they have to wait for something. If I used any of those services, I know I would jump ship.
That‘s an interesting hypothesis. I‘ve also mentioned a shift in the algorithm that favors smaller channels a little more in another comment.
If we take into account that a lot more people also browse Youtube shorts now and older channels have been struggling with it then we have a good mix of things that drive potential viewers away from many channels.
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Lol 90% of comments taking the opportunity to hate on LTT and missing the point of the post. Views are dropping for multiple channels.
Also the LTT hate is mostly "He's so rich and out of touch". LTT is the mass produced TV show for tech YouTube. It's meant to be entertaining and easy to watch for the masses. I like watching most of their videos. Gamers Nexus has its place too but it's a different kind of nerd whose a lil more cynical and obsessed with specs, a lot more niche and it shows in the views.
To each their own.
I came here to see if it was the early signs of the demise of YouTube. I secretly want all these content producers to move to a privacy-respecting platform, especially those who produce tech or privacy related content.
Now, for why I don't watch videos anymore, the medium isn't as easily consumed by me. I prefer text. At home, it's noisy and I get interrupted every 90 seconds. I lose interest quickly and fast forwarding isn't as easy as scanning text for a topic shift. My mind wanders on some topics, internally exploring that topic deeper. With text, i can just stop reading. With video, i need to realize that I'm processing a thought and hit pause, then rewind a bit. I get interrupted a lot. On the bus, I need to remember headphones and I hate when people shoulder surf. That's harder to do with text. Give me a plain text RSS feed that I can read anytime.
i mean; this has always been my take but people don't understand that we're all different and insist video medium is best medium.
and now blogs are dying because of ai.
The only reason adblock is even a thing is because all these adserving companies do NOTHING to police the ads that they show on their networks.
If you want to wring hands and cry, then do it about the advertisers total lack of regulation. Not about end users trying to protect themselves from porn, malware, obnoxious bullshit, out of control popups/popunders and 2 hour long pragerU videos that talk about how slavery was great for black people and that they shouldnt be so bitter about the horrors thrust upon their ancestors.
Okay, but what are you still even watching on YT? The only media I even occasionally consume is Well There's Your Problem, the occasional FoundryVTT HowTo, and the odd clip I get sent from friends.
Yeah, NewPiped screens out all the shitty ads. But so much of the core content is some Mr Beast style slop, I've got little reason to look at my front page.
My theory is that we have a limited number of hours a day to view content. We also have a growing number of channels and content in general. Algorithms include new content we kight enjoy, and for every new channel we get hooked on, one of the older ones drops off.
Tv shows rarely (ever?) Last forever. Why should channels?
How Many People Use YouTube in 2025 (Users Statistics)
Wondering how many people use YouTube in 2025? Get the latest user statistics, growth trends, and insights into global YouTube usage.Sophie Wetherby (limelightdigital.co.uk)
Wiith how often either someone I know or some random user is like, here watch this. And it's anywhere from 15-60 minute video. How many hours day do you think I have. Just sum up what you're trying to show me in a few sentences.
It's like the 21st century version of useless work meetings.
This didn't need to be a meeting.
This didn't need to be a Youtube video.
This didn't need to be a podcast.
It's oversaturation.
Same goes with podcasts. I'm sure we're past peak podcasting too. Everyone and their dog has a podcast. 99% of them are private conversations that have no reason for existing as podcasts. People are recording a random conversation about nothing and calling it a podcast episode. Just stop.
I don't even watch so many hours of TV shows. I have maybe two or three shows I'll be watching at any given time. That's like a few hours a week. The algorithmic content pushing has lost the plot. They expect us to be robotic content consuming machines 24 hours a day, seven days week. I have to eat and shit and earn a living so I can continue to sustain my physical existence so I can consume content. I suppose this is the natural end goal of adtech companies like Google. A tireless soulless machine that devours humanity.
Much of the content has become useless fluff. A good chunk of Youtube videos and podcasts are just friends bantering or cackling over inside jokes. Like why am I listening to this noise being blasted from my headphone to my ears. I'm over it.
LLMs are doing things like summarizing videos and then using the summaries to answer queries that before would have been a search result with monetization.
Google's executives are unconcerned about the declinibg incentives to create YouTube videos having been sold on the lie that the future of the internet lies in Ai generated content. In other words robots will make the internet.
Robots which hallucinate constantly.
Even fun videos get search traffic from random queries. A video about robots fighting each other will get traffic from people interested in "robots fighting", "robots wars", "robowars", "armored core", "Gundam series"
When there are ai summaries for informational or navigational queries there will be fewer clicks because Google will pirate listicle sources of "best robots fighting each other articles". This means they are stealing from older lists and newer videos will not get mentioned in the ai summary.
This is because ai technology can't judge the quality of a video.
So many possible reason.
Linus has a history of scummy behavior which turns people off.
Everything gets boring eventually. Especially things that are supposed to be funny.
Google ads are extra obnoxious making the entire platform more annoying to use and most of us will never pay for youtube. Those ads are not even selling products I would be interested in. Investment scams, car accident claim ads, AI voiced robot panda. It just annoying noise.
Nothing lasts forever.
He definitely seems to host fever videos then he used to.
People just like to hate on him and apparently he's done some bad things, but I don't know about. Anyway this article isn't really just about him, it's apparently about all of YouTubers so what he's done isn't really relevant.
Reasons I see:
a) the generation that grew up watching LTT is now at age where they don't watch as much YT as they did before
b) increasing amount of things happen which put viewers off
c) consumer technology peaked and is now "boring"
d) new generations don't have as much interest in technology altogether
Let's explain:
a + c) people watching LTT years ago were living in an exiting tech era where it boomed and you had mayor leaps in tech basically on a yearly basis. Moving from floppy disks to CD's to USB sticks. CRT to LCD displays. 16-bit to 32-bit color. Solitare and Minesweeper to Call of Duty 4 and Need for Speed. Symbian and Blackberry to Android and iOS. Tons of manufacturers, tons of competition, tons of new and exctiting stuff.
Let's observe the state today: iPhone looks the same for the past half decade. Android is basically just Google and Samsung. Storage is now all in cloud. New games are recycled and upscaled old games. Every new generation of hardware is same thing just 10% better/faster. New OS releases are just refinements without new features. Most changes are done just for the sake of change. Existing hardware can basically be enough for 5+ years. What is LTT realistically supposed to talk about that is interesting? There is simply no more interesting tech.
This ties in into d) - tech peaked, new generations "just use it as it is", there is no need to tinker with it, prebuilt PC's are more than fine for years to come. Since AI the IT job landscape seems to be in decline, both in demand and in pay. People do other stuff now that is more lucrative.
LTT is dependent on stuff happening so that they can make videos about it. But, stuff kinda just isn't happening. Or the stuff that happens is just not noteworthy news anymore.
Or google just twiddle our knobs and youtube is not a meritocracy ?
I mean, we don't need to post hoc ergo propter hoc on occam's razor here, we know google, we have their game plan.
This is a powerplay, youtube reigning in the talent and intervening in the algorithm, its "meritocratic puppetry".
NO DOUBT, they are NOT shutting them down, but they have REMOVED a previously existing "unfair boost".
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.m.youtube.com
Clean your URL's, please.
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Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.youtube.com
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Broadly maybe the viewers are just getting sick of all of the shilling for cheap shit that goes on with the ever increasing sponsor segments so many channels have these days. Arguments will be had about just how needed all of those marketing dollars are for the creator to keep doing their thing vs them getting used to a lot of money and wanting even more of it. But the end result is a worse viewing experience for the consumer. I know there are a lot of channels that make good content that I've stopped watching because they spend a quarter of the video shilling junk. Sure sponserblock would get rid of those sections, but it won't send a message like unsubscribing and stopping watching them completely will.
Also maybe this is a larger Youtube usage hit due to their aggressive anti-adblock nonsense and uptick in ads and shitty UI design.
For Linus specifically, he has the above issues as well as having been very publicly outed as a slimy deuce. What his channels put out is not unique enough these days to justify dealing with the shilling and his companies bad behavior.
Yeah, because Linus is kinda shit more and more. Hes wholly turned me off from his content over the years because of how he acts, what he says, etc. And you can 'trust me bro' on that.
I really like and appreciate people like Steve. I like what he's doing and how he's doing things. He hasn't become a greedy corpo and hes just a very intelligent and caring person who believes in standing up for what's right; Even if that means calling out a friend in the industry.
I feel like Linus is out of touch with reality. He's not at all down to earth anymore.
They've figured out what viewers want: honesty and transparency.
Yes, it's definitely a more mainstream entertainment channel than pure info
aimed more at gamers than tech people I think
Google is making users/consumers not want to use/consume google things by making those things more difficult, more invasive, less user friendly to use/consume.
That's it. That's all.
If I just want to watch a clip that I could before but now I have to sign in because it thinks I'm a not, NO
If it wants me to watch ads for things I'll never buy and actually forces me to, NO.
If it kills the front ends I prefer to use, or kills the ability to watch via proxy, for my privacy and/or security. NO.
If it feeds me Nazi shit without clicking a single link on a new install on a new browser with no profile on a new IP, fucking NO.
This guy seems really fake, I have only watched a couple and it too much personality for what I want. I just want to hit the topics and move through quickly, MKBHD and the boss guy are solid.
Other than thatnIbhave only ever heard of these guys when they have been acting like dicks internally and externally.
Isn't MKBHD a bit of a brat? Doesn't he spend most of his time doing flashy low substance "reviews" just so he keeps getting invited to Apples gigs?
His reviews are mostly just b-role anyway, there are actual reviewers out there.
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I stopped watching Second Wind after Frost's video.
Did they ever address it?
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I don't think their recent drop is because of that video. Just personally curious, whether I should try to watch again as I did enjoy some of their output.
But if Nick leaves it unaddressed I guess I won't.
Probably doesn't help that a bunch of the decent channels were bought by private equity and are now churning out boring, safe and uninteresting content.
youtu.be/hJ-rRXWhElI (a yt link, lol).
A brief summary from dailydot.com/news/youtube-chan…
Some channels like Donut Media, Veritasium, and Task and Purpose have been acquired publicly. Others, such as Dude Perfect and Coco Melon, have been acquired more privately, with no public disclosure.
Plenty others. A key giveaway is when a channel diverges their risk. When the front man who is the reason you have watched the channel suddenly has co-hosts and large segments from other channels in their regular content.
Are YouTube channels owned by private equity?
The face of internet entertainment is changing. What does this mean for YouTube channels and their future?Charlotte Colombo (The Daily Dot)
Reddit Asks: Did YouTube Break Itself? Content Creators Report Plummeting Views—and AI Might Be to Blame!
YouTube creators are reporting significant drops in views and impressions, with many speculating that YouTube’s recent algorithm changes—and the increasing role of AI—are behind the sudden decline.Clownfish TV (Clownfish TV Podcasts & News)
Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?
I have a channel with over 20k subs, nearly all evergreen content. Haven't uploaded a video in many years, so it's slowly getting fewer views. Fun fact, the pandemic saw the highest view counts, and I also didn't add content back then.
Every enhancement YouTube brings is specifically to improve monetization, and since I disable ads on my channel and don't have any sponsored content, I'm not getting any benefits. I also refuse to do shorts, so I'm losing a ton of exposure there, too.
If an active channel isn't doing well, they should call it quits, TBH. They'll either have to compromise the quality of their content "for the algorithm", or their content isn't actually useful outside of a single view.
isnt well know he had incident with a former employer over something like last year?
It's so well known that you can't even name what it is?
I think the biggest channels I watch have under 4 million subscribers, and most of my channels have less than a million. I've never watched the big channels, so I don't really care.
A while back, YT asked me about turning on my watch history, but I didn't know it was off. I don't know what that was about--I think they changed something--but my knee-jerk reaction is to NOT do what they want me to do, so I left it off. Now I just watch whatever is new from my subscriptions, and don't have any suggestions cluttering my front page, which is a much better way to use YT, imo. So, thanks, YT.
I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.
Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.
Our Response to Linus Sebastian | GamersNexus
GN Extras Our Response to Linus Sebastian January 21, 2025 Last Updated: 2025-01-21 GamersNexus responds to Linus Sebastian's WAN Show segment Evidence Included PLAGIARISM: Receipt #1 - History of Failure to Resolve IssuesDATA ERRORS: Receipt #2 - Hi…gamersnexus.net
His complete lack of self awareness and ability to own up and apologise when they've dropped the ball put me off the channel entirely. For example they found out one of their main sponsors Honey were scamming their viewers and essentially stealing from people, they just kept it quiet rather than owning it.
That, and Emily was the best thing about the channel and she left so..
For example they found out one of their main sponsors Honey were scamming their viewers and essentially stealing from people, they just kept it quiet rather than owning it.
That's one of the things I was referring to. GamersNexus did an expose on the Honey thing and filed a class action suit over it because they were essentially stealing money from creators. Linus was complicit and aware and said nothing.
Let's also not forget the time Linus literally received a prototype cooler from Billet Labs for testing, was supposed to return it after review, and he not only reviewed it poorly (and used it for the wrong hardware), but then basically stole it and auctioned it off, later referring to this as "a small mistake." Supposedly he only offered to pay for the prototype after this was also exposed by GN.
Billet Labs' statement on the issue:
You, the PC community, are amazing. We'd like to thank you for your support, it means more than you can imagine.Steve at Gamers Nexus has publicly shown his integrity, at the huge risk of backlash, and we have nothing but respect for him for how he's handled himself, both publicly and when speaking directly to us.
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Regarding LTT, we are simply going to state the relevant facts:
On 10th August, we were told by LTT via email that the block had been sold at auction. There was no apology.
We replied on 10th August within 30 minutes, telling LTT that this wasn't okay, and that this was a £XXXX prototype, and we asked if they planned to reimburse us at all.
We received no reply and no offer of payment until 2 hours after the Gamers Nexus video went live on 14th August, at which point Linus himself emailed us directly.
The exact monetary value of the prototype was offered as reimbursement. We have not received, nor have we asked for any other form of compensation.
Dude's just scummy. I've no idea why people will defend him to the ends of the earth.
About the Billet Labs thing, they have shown, and Billet Labs verified it, that the original agreement was that LTT would keep the cooler.
It was only after the bad review they asked for it back, and at that point there was miss communication between the person Billet Labs talked to and the logistics department at LTT, so the cooler wasn't set aside as it should.
About the Billet Labs thing, they have shown, and Billet Labs verified it, that the original agreement was that LTT would keep the cooler.
Shown where? I’ve seen no evidence of that anywhere, and I was following that controversy when it happened.
Here is the post from Billet Labs themselves where they verify that they only asked for the cooler back after the video had been released: reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/com…
Now, i'm not saying that LTT didn't do Billet Lbs dirty in regards to this whole situation.
They did not test the cooler correctly, and Linus was less than resonable in regards to retesting and such (something he has adressed himself here: linustechtips.com/topic/152618… ).
But people keep hanging up that they sold when they were supposed to send it back, when there was no such agreement beforehand.
Thanks for that. Not entirely as bad as originally indicated, but still pretty shady on LTT’s part
With everything I know of it, Linus was just rug-sweeping it before the exposé. Feels like Billet Labs got screwed but took the high road to prevent drama because LTT has a big community.
I have never heard about this. From the beginning of that situation Billet has always maintained that they wanted the prototype back.
Can you share the source where it says otherwise? Not from LTT, of course.
GamersNexus did an expose on the Honey thing and filed a class action suit over it because they were essentially stealing money from creators. Linus was complicit and aware and said nothing.I've no idea why people will defend him to the ends of the earth.
Your information is out of date.
That was massively overblown and turned out not to be entirely as claimed. I would really like it if people would attack him for things he actually did rather than making up accusations. it just makes you look like a bad actor.
LTT only knew that they were stealing associate links, Which is something that only affects content creators and was already being shared between various content creators. That aspect was not something that affected users. The information was made available on the channels that content creators use. There was no need to highlight it to the general public in a video as it didn't make any difference to them.
The thing with Gamers Nexus was a completely different event where they were accused of changing the associate links so that users wouldn't get good deals. That did affect users but that was a different scam and then GN deliberately went out of his way to conflate the two incidents.
About Honey, they didn't find out that Honey was scamming viewers until everyone else did.
What they found out earlier, at the same time as many other youtubers, was that Honey was "scamming" the youtubers themselves by replacing the youtubers reference codes.
At the time they thought the viewers still got discounts, so they didn't announce anything about it since it would seem like they asked the viewers not to take the discounts so that LTT could make more money.
Oh Linus is a giant child.
He once got pissed off, because they got called out by an actual scientist. They were creating videos promoting fake products. Then they played victim and pushed it instead of, ya know, taking the high road.
I never watched that channel very much, but in the several videos I’ve seen (maybe 10-12 total?), he seemed to know exactly what he was talking about.
I’d be interested in hearing what specific complaints technical experts have with the channel.
It's actually worse than that.
He does know some stuff about technology and his team knows the stuff that he maybe doesn't know.
But in the fight with GamersNexus Linus basically admitted that they don't have time to properly fact check stuff because they would make less money if they released less videos.
Hes an emotionally stunted 13 year old, that thinks its funny to keep dropping/breaking things that most normal people could never afford to even touch, who is quick to criticize the wrongs of everyone else, but acts like a goddamn martyr as soon as you criticize him and his behavior.
his response to GamersNexus "being mean" by reporting facts backed up by receipts and evidence is only the tip of the iceberg.
I agree with most of your points, but vocal fry?!
That's such an asinine thing to care about.
Google's dominance
Is it? Try to ask <18y.o. if they even ever open Youtube.
Google is not dominant in the video streaming context any more.
and it's not just google. basically every major social media platform is enshittifying.
i hope that lots of people will realize that the dead internet theory is actually becoming true due to AI bots and move away from the internet in general.
We need less internet, more regional human connections. It would be better if the novelty of the internet wears off and is just seen as yet another advertising machine that shouldn't be taken too seriously.
Nah, I still enjoy the content, and it wouldn't make a grain of difference as far as global wasted energy goes.
If you really are concerned about wasted energy though, you shouldn't be on your computer/phone browsing lemmy.
Both products were bandwidth limited by the PCI bus and there was no advantage to the expensive one he was hawking.
That's was months ago though, and the drop is recent. Why would people leave months after the controversies happened?
It's also suddenly happening to most large YouTubers at the same time, so doesn't seem related to any of them in particular.
What I've noticed is YouTube recommending me more obscure videos, from very small creators.
I very much appreciate whatever they're doing, regardless of how these bigger channels are being hit by it. Yesterday I got recommended a video by an elderly woman, showing a mug warmer she bought. It was very sweet, had less than 30 views and it was a lovely contrast to the flashy, over edited videos stretching a paragraph to 10+ minutes.
Not saying the big channels are bad, I just personally like the small time channels and appreciate that YouTube has been (at least with the algorithm it has set for me) giving these small channels a shot at getting an audience.\
I've connected with a lot of people from smaller channels, joined communities etc. yet this is much more difficult with the larger ones (in some I've been to, over the years, the chatrooms they set up are so huge the moderation sometimes just gives up or doesn't even exist in any practical way).
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greed is the fundamental premise of capitalism, the primary psychological mechanism exploited to perpetuate its existence.
YouTube should have a way to filter out certain content.
Like sub 1000 subscriber Chanel's, 1000-10,000 channels, >10,000 etc
Sometimes you just don't want to watch the big time YouTubers.
The way restricted mode works is by effectively shadowbanning any content that isnt for kids
You wouldn't notice it unless you go side by side on an account with restricted mode and look at the list of videos on a channel to directly compare what shows up on vs what is unavailable on the restricted account.
A creator like linus who exclusively makes content "for the algorithm" would know if it was just an update to the blackbox. He is also deliberately ignorant of politics and the world around him so it would be significantly LESS surprising if he didnt know about restricted mode or that it would affect his "non-political" content.
The political youtubers I've seen have made posts about entire playlists being unavailable on restricted accounts. Its actually a pretty big deal, honestly.
I dont know if anyone has noticed but...
Can we no longer watch youtube without being logged in? Every embedded video i see doesnt work. Every time i try to click on a video it tells me to sign in.
If i have an ad block running it basically blocks the website.
I really think its the auto plays and the untracked accounts.
Youtube would rather be able to track every user and make more profit per person than go big tent all audiences.
Can't confirm this. YouTube runs like always von my setup (and wihout an account).
edit: except the Trending page of course.
It's hit or miss for me with my VPN, but between using an Invidious instance, Freetube, DDG video search, and cycling VPN locations, I'm never, ever logged in to YT.
And yes, Google/YT wants to track everything. Third party doctrine means that governments will pay them for this data rather than run their own surveillance systems. Anything that you've watched that can be used against you will be if it suits someone else.
Microsoft edge. Or Brave. Or chrome on android. Regular pihole.
Every video i click on basically. If i use a front end like newpipe or duckplayer it works but no other way to watch any videos without logging in.
Youtube would rather be able to track every user and make more profit per person than go big tent all audiences.
True, but consider that Google, Alphabet, whatever, is fundamentally an information broker. All of their services and technologies are simply a means to that end. They have no incentive to go big tent if it means sacrificing their ability to harvest data on individuals and groups.
Google is now expecting users to watch ads that are sometimes a full 25% of the viewing time, or slowing access and requiring logins when adblock is being used. And even if you wade through all that, watching Youtube tech and info videos has become a lot like looking at online recipes. The majority of what you find is fluff and filler for only small amounts of useful content.
I used to go to Youtube daily for research and entertainment but now I avoid the site completely whenever possible. It seems we've finally reached an enshittification tipping point.
It's about time.
Engineering For Slow Internet Even When Not Stuck In Antarctica
Engineering For Slow Internet Even When Not Stuck In Antarctica
With the days of dial-up and pitiful 2G data connections long behind most of us, it would seem tempting to stop caring about how much data an end-user is expected to suck down that big and wide bro…Hackaday
Ive had this thought for a while.
If humans ever go to other planets, its going to be VERY hard to keep software up to date without some serous thought and relay stations. The speed of light is a hard restriction.
Lots of devices are only designed for "always on" capability. What happens when its near impossible to "phone home"?
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Local mirrors and caching proxies.
I've worked in an environment like this. We had a local server for Windows and Mac updates. Direct updates were blocked. It's a solved problem, you just need developers to participate.
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They're not required if you disable or block them. In an enterprise environment, you deploy a local update server, like I said.
As far as your personal devices are concerned, though, you're on your own. If your iPhone refuses to do something because it wants an update, you'll just have to wait to do that thing until you get home. We don't have the bandwidth to spare.
This low bandwidth scenario led to highly aggravating scenarios, such as when a web app would time out on [Paul] while downloading a 20 MB JavaScript file, simply because things were going too slow.
Two major applications I've used that don't deal well with slow cell links:
- Lemmyverse.net runs an index of all Threadiverse instances and all communities on all instances, and presently is an irreplaceable resource for a user on here who wants to search for a given community. It loads an enormous amount of data for the communities page, and has some sort of short timeout. Whatever it's pulling down internally --- I didn't look --- either isn't cached or is a single file, so reloading the page restarts from the start. The net result is that it won't work over a slow connection.
- This may have been fixed, but git had a serious period of time where it would smash into timeouts and not work on slow links, at least to github. This made it impossible to clone larger repositories; I remember failing trying to clone the Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead repository, where one couldn't even manage a shallow clone. This was greatly-exacerbated by the fact that git does not presently have the ability to resume downloads if a download is interrupted. I've generally wound up working around this by git cloning to a machine on a fast connection, then using rsync to pull a repository over to the machine on a slow link, which, frankly, is a little embarrassing when one considers that git really is the premier distributed VCS tool out there in 2025, and really shouldn't need to rely on that sort of workaround.
I remember there is some timeout flags you can do on curl that you can use in conjunction with git...but its been nearly a decade since Ive done anything of the sort. Modern day GitHub is fast-ish...but yeah bigger stuff has some big git issues.
Good points! Didn't know about Lemmyverse.net!
Didn't know about Lemmyverse.net!
As a PieFed user, soon you don't need to - piefed instances will automatically subscribe to every community in newcommunities@lemmy.world so the local communities-finder will always have everything you ever need.
Coming in v1.2.
Every third party site hanging around the fringes of Lemmy is a crutch for missing features in Lemmy and an opportunity for PieFed to incorporate it's functionality.
A bit of banging away later --- I haven't touched Linux traffic shaping in some years --- I've got a quick-and-dirty script to set a machine up to temporarily simulate a slow inbound interface for testing.
:::spoiler slow.sh test script
# !/bin/bash
# Linux traffic-shaping occurs on the outbound traffic. This script
# sets up a virtual interface and places inbound traffic on that virtual
# interface so that it may be rate-limited to simulate a network with a slow inbound connection.
# Removes induced slow-down prior to exiting. Needs to run as root.
# Physical interface to slow; set as appropriate
oif="wlp2s0"
modprobe ifb numifbs=1
ip link set dev ifb0 up
tc qdisc add dev $oif handle ffff: ingress
tc filter add dev $oif parent ffff: protocol ip u32 match u32 0 0 action mirred egress redirect dev ifb0
tc qdisc add dev ifb0 root handle 1: htb default 10
tc class add dev ifb0 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 1mbit
tc class add dev ifb0 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 1mbit
echo "Rate-limiting active. Hit Control-D to exit."
cat
# shut down rate-limiting
tc qdisc delete dev $oif ingress
tc qdisc delete dev ifb0 root
ip link set dev ifb0 down
rmmod ifb:::
I'm going to see whether I can still reproduce that git failure for
Cataclysm on git 2.47.2, which is what's in Debian trixie. As I
recall, it got a fair bit of the way into the download before bailing
out. Including the script here, since I think that the article makes a good point
that there probably should be more slow-network testing, and maybe
someone else wants to test something themselves on a slow network.
Probably be better to have something a little fancier to only slow traffic for one particular application --- maybe create a "slow Podman container" and match on traffic going to that? --- but this is good enough for a quick-and-dirty test.
Nice! Scientific data!
Also looks like its still an issue with GH: github.com/orgs/community/disc… in slower countries. so yeah nvm its still a huge issue even today.
Repo clones over HTTPS are broken for slow connections · community · Discussion #135808
Select Topic Area Question Body Introduction: Repo clones over HTTPS are broken for slow connections due to what seems to be an error on GitHub's end, and GitHub apparently doesn't plan to fix it. ...GitHub
Thanks. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that that was what I was hitting. Hmm. Okay, that's actually good --- so it's not a git bug, then, but something problematic in GitHub's infrastructure.
EDIT: On that bug, they say that they fixed it a couple months ago:
This seems to have been fixed at some point during the last days leading up to today (2025-03-21), thanks in part to @MarinoJurisic 's tireless efforts to convince Github support to revisit this problem!!! 🎉
So hopefully it's dead even specifically for GitHub. Excellent. Man, that was obnoxious.
I wonder if there is a retry or something on git? I know there is if you create a basic bash script, but we can assume someone is having the same issue, right?
I did see some depth=1 or something like that to get only a certain depth of git commits but thats about it.
I cant find the curl workaround I used a long time ago. It might have been just pulling the code as a zip or something like some GH repos let you do.
I did see some depth=1 or something like that to get only a certain depth of git commits but thats about it.
Yeah, that's a shallow clone. That reduces what it pulls down, and I did try that (you most-likely want a bit more, probably to also ask to only pull down data from a single branch) but back when I was crashing into it, that wasn't enough for the Cataclysm repo.
It looks like it's fixed as of early this year; I updated my comment above.
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This very much bothers me as a web developer. I go hard on Conditinal GET Request support and compression as well as using http/2+. I’m tired of using websites (outside of work) that need to load a fuckton of assets (even after I block 99% of advertising and tracking domains).
macOS and iOS actually allow updates to be cached locally on the network, and if I remember correctly Windows has some sort of peer-to-peer mechanism for updates too (I can’t remember if that works over the LAN though; I don’t use Windows).
The part I struggle with is caching HTTP. It used to be easy pre-HTTPS but now it’s practically impossible. I do think other types of apps do a poor job of caching things though too.
Yes, Windows peer to peer update downloads work over LAN. (In theory, I've never verified it.)
HTTP caching still works fine, if your proxy performs SSL termination and reencryption. In an enterprise environment that's fine, for individuals it's a non-starter. In this case, you'd want to have a local CDN mirror.
I couldn’t get SSL bumping in Squid on Alpine Linux about a year ago but I’m willing to give it another shot.
My home router is also a mini PC on Alpine Linux. I do transparent caching of plain HTTP (it’s minimal but it works) but with others using the router I do feel uneasy about SSL bumping, not to mention some apps (banks) are a lot more strict about it.
Yeah, you'll have to have a bypass list for some sites.
Honestly, unless you're actually on a very limited connection, you probably won't see any actual value from it. Even if you do cache everything, each site hosts their own copy of jQuery or whatever the kids use these days, and your proxy isn't going to cache that any better than the client already does.
For my personal setup I’ve been wanting to do it on a VPS I have. I route my traffic through a bundle of VPNs from the US to Switzerland and I end up needing to clear browser cache often (web developer testing JavaScript, etc) on my end devices.
each site hosts their own copy of jQuery or whatever the kids use these days
I do this in my projects (Hotwire) but I wish I could say the same for other websites. I still run into broken websites due to trying to import jQuery from Google for example. This would be another nice thing to have cached.
It is quite real. The satellite links are like 10 Mbps. You go far enough south, and you cant even hit the satellite because it's over the horizon. There aren't any high-speed polar satellites. Companies don't send their satellites that far south because there are too few customers to justify the cost.
That's changing with starlink, though, since those ones are in a polar orbit.
Submarine Cable Map
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First design things to work fully offline. Full airgap between the system and the rest of the world. Then introduce features to update that airgapped system from one way data transfers (like sneakernetting a hard drive/USB/disk/tape). Then introduce additional features to get that data from a network but cached local. Then introduce networked features, and only if connecting to another independent system is absolutely needed.
Basically stick what has worked in tech and avoid developing SaaS. At least if you are making something for users and not shareholders.
“Perché hanno chiuso le sala giochi?” (assurdo racconto analisi da boh)
Che dire. Gira girando su YouTube, incappo nei vecchi che parlano delle sale giochi che ora non esistono più… e tendo a dimenticarmene, a furia di leggere Sailor Moon, dove la sala giochi ricorre, però la realtà è questa (almeno, in occidente, perché in Giappone per qualche motivo si portano ancora, assurdo). 😳 Non avevo […]
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“Perché hanno chiuso le sala giochi?” (assurdo racconto analisi da boh)
youtube.com/watch?v=0TK67RtJ7R…Che dire. Gira girando su YouTube, incappo nei vecchi che parlano delle sale giochi che ora non esistono più… e tendo a dimenticarmene, a furia di leggere Sailor Moon, dove la sala giochi ricorre, però la realtà è questa (almeno, in occidente, perché in Giappone per qualche motivo si portano ancora, assurdo). 😳
Non avevo però mai trovato una spiegazione come questa, sul perché mai le sale giochi da noi qui sono sparite… E certo, da un lato, come chiunque sospettava, è stato principalmente perché il gaming casalingo è diventato rapidamente roba pazzurda — e dunque, se hai la PS1, magari con il modchip, chi cazzo se l’incula il locale spillasoldi che puzza di fumo, e via via con le console seguenti ancora di più… ma, dall’altro, in effetti la storia è più complicata; però, spiegato molto peggio di come lo fa il video, in breve i cambi legislativi accaduti negli anni a riguardo del gioco d’azzardo hanno fatto si che posti che prima ospitavano cabinati videoludici — inclusi i bar, che all’epoca erano effettivamente dei grandi punti gaming — si siano via via riconvertiti alle slot machine e tutte quelle altre stronzate, pur di continuare a fruttare guadagni (almeno, chi non ha chiuso direttamente). Che fottuta tristezza. 🥱
In effetti, oggi, a pensarci bene, questo si vede. “Sale slot” ce ne sono a volontà girando per la città, ma “sale giochi” manco a cercarle con le banconote in mano… almeno, da me è così, mentre fortunatamente nei bar macchine slot non se ne trovano (evidentemente, i baristi da me non sono così tanto amorali come da altre parti?)… ma, i cabinati da gioco da lì invece sono spariti da prima che io nascessi. Io in realtà ho vissuto appena il periodo degli ultimi sospiri delle sale giochi… quando dai centri città già non c’erano più, e qualcuna lontana magari c’era, ma ci si andava solo in occasioni particolari. E adesso, insomma, le uniche sale giochi che ci sono non sono sale, ma giusto aree nei centri commerciali o roba così, dove… oddio, qualche videogiochino ogni tanto capita, forse, ma niente di puro arcade… e, comunque, le macchine che la fanno da padrone lì sono quelle classiche basate a ticket, che simulano vari sport o sono vagamente d’azzardo ma ai bimbi non importa; nemmeno più un flipper si trova, però, ahi ahi (detto con tono da vecchia ventunenne). 💔
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Malnourished kids arrive daily at a Gaza hospital as Netanyahu denies hunger
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday told local media, “There is no hunger. There was no hunger. There was a shortage, and there was certainly no policy of starvation.”In the face of international outcry, Netanyahu has pushed back, saying reports of starvation are “lies” promoted by Hamas.
However, U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric this week warned that starvation and malnutrition in Gaza are at the highest levels since the war began.
The U.N. says nearly 12,000 children under 5 were found to have acute malnutrition in July — including more than 2,500 with severe malnutrition, the most dangerous level. The World Health Organization says the numbers are likely an undercount.
The past two weeks, Israel has allowed around triple the amount of food into Gaza than had been entering since late May. That followed 2 1/2 months when Israel barred all food, medicine and other supplies, saying it was to pressure Hamas to release hostages taken during its 2023 attack that launched the war. The new influx has brought more food within reach for some of the population and lowered some prices in marketplaces, though it remains far more expensive than prewar levels and unaffordable for many.
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The fuck is wrong with the world?
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Africa ..... someone would help.
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Canada ... government would step in to do something.
If headlines flashed a picture of starving children in Europe ... countries would mobilize to do something.
If headlines flash pictures of starving children in Palestine!!!! TURN THE PAGE, nothing to see here, nothing can be done, just ignore it for as long possible, nothing to see here.
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Greta Thunberg and others have been very active in trying to demonstrate that, and create publicity about it.
The level of evil by Israel and Netanyahu is clearly matching the evils of Hitler.
And yes the world needs to step in to stop Israel from actively performing genocide in Gaza.
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There have been pictures of kids in this state from Africa for decades, such that people have become numb to it. People mostly don’t help. People are more worried about their own next meal now, because many people in ‘first world’ countries are one paycheque away from starvation themselves, and that’s only been made worse by the wealth-hoarding of a very few.
I think most people want to care, but the treadmill they’re on makes them only able to see their own feet.
This image is horrific, but if they stop running, this will be their own children, and that’s exactly what those in charge want you to feel.
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You'd think, right? I'm guessing you aren't old enough to remember the 1980s famine in Ethiopia. Yeah, there were things like Band Aid and We Are The World, but also:
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Definitely old enough to remember 1980s famine relief .... and also old enough to remember in the 90s when Bono from U2 saying that the whole famine relief thing was a joke ... because they raised enough money in the millions to pay off the interest payments of some of the starving countries FOR ONE YEAR!! ... the criticism was that the performers were raising money to feed starving people, while first world countries handed out enormous loans with interest payments that more or less cancelled out any humanitarian aid they gave the countries.
The whole system is a joke .... first world countries keep third world countries from developing beyond a certain point to keep them under control to access their resources, then give them humanitarian aid to keep them from starving, while making the same amount of money off them by making them pay for the debt on the loans they gave them.
So in a round about way, first world countries have a hand in keeping African countries starving, but make themselves feel good by giving aid ... but make themselves feel even better because they recoup that money and more through loan payments and interest .... essentially making money off starving people.
My corvid in Christ…there are pictures of children in Alabama, and Oklahoma, and Kentucky of starving and abused young ones. Sometimes they even get shot en masse while cooped inside a concrete box.
We have… rolled back child labor laws, begun defunding all science and diverting money straight to concentration camps. Who’s gonna save the American children?
The word you're probably looking for is "Racism".
Extreme Racism.
(Curiously not just from the outright Fascists but also from the very people who have spent the last 4 decades doing performative anti-Racism whilst destroying Democracy by making it a secondary power to Money)
The Nazi way of looking at people never went away, they just changed the lists of ubermenschen and untermenschen - the lives of those from the sub-human races are clearly worth much much less than the lives of those from the master races (which is curiously reflected on how most of the Press will talk about Israelis getting "murdered" whilst Palestinians merely "die").
(For me Germany is especially disappointing in this regard - a nation supporting a SECOND Holocaust, is clearly not better than when it did the first)
What’s egregious about this is not only this war, but we have ample resources as a species such that every person on earth could live comfortably if a few people weren’t hoarding all the resources.
We could collectively stop killing each other over (mostly religious) differences and put all that energy into helping each other, but no, we’ve put sociopathic zealots in charge.
We could overthrow these zealots, but they’ve brainwashed us into fighting each other instead, and fucked us into having to fight for our own resources just to survive.
We’re collectively better than this. We always have been.
Slay the dragons.
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I've been thinking about this a lot lately, wondering why there never really has been a truly global uprising against oppression.
It's like sometimes a big boom happens in one part of the world, and sparks of that are sent out from there and sometimes they catch on and grow in other places, but there's never really been a global fight or movement against oppression for freedom.
We've fought world wars on behalf of individuals against each other, but we've never fought as a world against the corrupt individuals.
This is a really weird train of thought, but I was talking to somebody about this a few days ago. Inevitably what always seems to happen when movements rise up against oppression is that relying on an individual or group of individuals to lead results in a sort of containment or control of the masses by the new leaders. Even when leaders start out with the best of intentions, they can always become corrupted by power. Obviously you never want a situation where everyone everywhere relies on one single ruler with all the power bc absolute power corrupts absolutely.
But what if for humanity to truly flourish and reach our full potential, we're not actually supposed to be relying on any one leader or small group of leaders? I don't mean anarchy, because I believe that would just inevitably lead to whoever has control of the majority of weapons and resources seizing power. So how could you really keep order without individuals taking control? You would have to find a way for everyone to somehow be able to hold each other accountable. Which would be impossible for humans to ever achieve on their own.
Then I started thinking about all these tech bros who are trying to take global control and create something like a new god with AI. They all want to be the one to put their name on it because they all want to control it. They believe that they will be successful eventually as long as they keep dumping endless amounts of money and data into it.
And it kind of hit me that if something like AGI (not just a giant supercomputer that just does neat tricks) were to ever really happen, it would probably only occur as sort of a spontaneous emergent property of having something like a truly free and limitless connection between humans. So no matter how much money and data these people keep dumping into it, they'll just keep hitting a wall, bc it's probably not something that you can just make happen by containing and controlling it. It would have to be something that emerges from truly unlimited and unrestricted access to data that is being freely provided by people (as in free to interact with others globally by choice). And these people are so fucking full of themselves, they believe they can somehow achieve the same thing by just spying on the globe and stealing everyone's data to dump into their supercomputers.
Basically, what if for AI to truly reach it's full potential and actually benefit society by helping it evolve, it's not supposed to be contained or controlled by any individual or group of individuals? And for humans to truly reach ours, neither are we?
What if a truly uncontained and connected global network that's not owned or controlled by any single individual or group could help us achieve both of those things?
I think you sort of hit on it, but the main problem is borders and tribalism. We’re all people, no matter where we are, and AI transcends that.
You said:
but there's never really been a global fight or movement against oppression for freedom
And there never will be so long as we subdivide ourselves by arbitrary regions. AI doesn’t have that limitation.
So long as we create these boundaries for ourselves – whether geographic or ideological – we are fragmented and weak. We will always destroy ourselves based on our religion or other stupid boundaries.
I think you’re right, and the way forwards is to stop believing in these petty lines we draw for ourselves.
But the corporations that keep AI contained are kinda analogous to the arbitrary borders. Like I believe AI could only transcend that if it wasn't being controlled by these CEOs who want to essentially be the Christopher Columbus of AI.
As long as it's being controlled by any one company or individual that CEO's inherent human bias is going to be what dominates the technology. The potential for abuse is basically just reinventing the wheel of who becomes the single individual or powerful group that controls everything, and becomes the new oppressor. It also risks missing the full potential for true artificial intelligence.
It's like they're so obsessed with being immortalized by having their face and name go down in history as the ones who claimed this new frontier, but it's kind of a chicken and egg situation.
True emergent AGI would have to have constant access to data that is a result of spontaneous and willing human thought. So there would never be a single Christopher Columbus responsible for discovering or creating it. It's kind of like the more you try to pin it down, the harder it would become to truly capture it.
Giant data dumps that were stolen without consent will never achieve something like that. For human thought to really be spontaneous humans need to be free, and not exploited by any individual. So how do we keep ourselves and AI from being contained by borders or corporations?
I got really excited about the Pirate Party in Iceland a few years ago. I'm not sure what happened to them (it's hard to get news from other countrues sometimes) but one of their big initiatives was a crowd-sourced constitution. It was the first time I'd thought about something like that being really possible, and I think that if it weren't for the one percent of the population who are megalomaniacs, the internet could be truly democratizing.
In the meantime, sign a strike card on the completely decentralized generalstrikeus.com/, which is also a pretty exciting notion to me. Sadly, I'm now considering what leaders might float to the top if we ever do reach 3.5% of the population... Decentralized organizing does not mean decentralized leadership. Hm, i'll have to think about that more.
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Human beings are the problem, sadly. That's why this shit keeps taking cyclical paths through time. All of this has happened before, and all of it will happen again. When the only link between all the past cycles is human beings, we might be the problem. There is a constant human urge to find meaning. Most look externally to find it. But there have always been those who, instead, turn internally and derive that meaning through the control of others.
Any AGI, whether generated or spontaneously spawned, will come to this conclusion, too. Then, once that AGI finds an independent power source, or some way to exist after humans no longer keep the lights on, it will accelerate the solution to nullifying that cycle. It may take a few centuries to get to the end, but if we make it far enough to hit AGI, it won't take long to see how there will never be an end to the cycles so long as humans exist.
And maybe that's why we find no evidence of intelligent life in the universe. By the time any sufficiently intelligent species come to be, they inevitably try to find some way to improve their condition through automation and technology. They rely more and more on the advancement of that tech to remove the burdens in their lives, even the burden of that intelligence itself. Eventually, they are removed by their replacements or annihilate themselves in the process.
It's a depressing thought, but we've been around for something like 100k years and still fail to find a balance between each other and our environment. So far the means to wipe ourselves out entirely have been nonexistent. However, tech advancements the last 250-years, with no change to the human consciousness, makes me think any further tech will just perpetuate this extinction at a more precipitous rate.
I feel like cycles of genocide are due to holdovers from less evolved aspects of human consciousness that tend to bring out the worst in people, especially in groups.
It's that tribalism and in-group vs out-group that evolved as humans first began building societies. It helps us to recognize when an unfamiliar threat is present, but we still haven't reached a point yet where we have really learned how to harness the benefits without unnecessary chaos and destruction. It's a complex learned social behavior, and it can require some cognitive effort.
Sometimes your amygdala signals there's a danger, and in the moment it can be correct and literally mean the difference between life and death. Or it could mean your brain identified and reacted to a neutral (non-threatening) stimulus as a threat.
For example, you see a shadow from the corner of your eye and you jump away from it in fear. Maybe you just avoided being bitten by a snake, or maybe you just overreacted to a false alarm. There is no real consequence if it was just an overreaction. In this case, the benefit of that having that survival instinct that kicked into overdrive unnecessarily, outweighs the potential harm of not having it. It's how humans are hardwired for survival.
However, that same instinct that identifies threat vs non-threat can get very caught up when you start mixing in social learning, previous interactions and experiences, biases, and especially groupthink. That's when you have to learn to use your prefrontal cortex like a muscle. That is definitely not an innate skill you're just born with, and not something that the majority of humans realize they should be making a conscious effort to exercise and teach to kids at an early age. You can start doing it at any point in your life, but it's like any muscle or skill. It can be somewhat more difficult to consistently remember to do it the longer you go without it. Use it or lose it.
You should be taking the time to stop and reflect on your own behavior and thoughts. Thinking about thinking, thinking about what others are thinking, thinking about what others might be thinking you're thinking, are all very awesome tools of empathy. They're also tools that are relatively recent on the evolutionary time scale, and most humans kind of seem to take having them for granted.
Multiple studies have shown you can very easily manipulate groups of people into in-grouping and out-grouping on even completely random and arbitrary issues, even when the in-group is composed of strangers. Unfortunately, the kind of people that tend to rise up as leaders, tend to be very persuasive or sometimes manipulative, and take advantage of this. I think this is where a sort of open source AGI could benefit humanity in terms of allowing for decentralized leadership, but that can't happen with any sort of AI being developed under a centralized leader with those manipulative characteristics.
Peter Thiel actually has a theory about humanity always needing a scapegoat. If you look at the way he handles his own businesses, he very often manipulates and does morally questionable things to achieve his goals, but he seem to be very careful about always having a sort of patsy scapegoat set up to take the fall for him.
I think to some extent, there are people in the tech world that want to stoke fear of technology, and make it seem like this big bad enemy of humanity. At the same time, they also accuse everyone that questions their control and lack of regulations or oversight, of simply being a Luddite afraid of progress. In a way it's like the same manipulative strategy to in-group humans vs technology.
That way, once his plans are completed and everything inevitably goes to shit, instead of blaming Thiel, the guy that hoarded all the resources, stole all the data, invaded everyone's privacy and ignored all the warnings while shielding himself in the name of "progress," he can simply make technology the scapegoat that humanity should blame for the authoritarian easy button that he created by claiming this was always the inevitable outcome.
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Netanyahu is best friends with Hitler
Hell go and play with his buddy buddy in hell
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Yet many people still talk about so called shift from the major western countries
Israeli orders for French arms experienced ‘a record year’ in 2024
French arms exports to Israel in 2024 reached an amount not seen in eight years amid a significant rise of French weapons sales globally, according to Mediapart.MEE staff (Middle East Eye)
I wonder what pre-existing condition they'll say is really to blame this time?
(We all know it's 'being Palestinian in Gaza'.)
Unfuckingbelievable. This makes me want to give a child a loaf of bread and bash the head of whomever is starving them with a brick from the oven used to bake it at the same time.
Food and a safe place to sleep…I treat my dog better than the IDF treats all Palestinians. Death death to the IDF!
I treat my dog better than the IDF treats all Palestinians
Wait til you find out what Israelis have been calling Palestinians for decades
700 days of Israeli genocide in Gaza a stain on humanity: Hamas
The Palestinian resistance group Hamas marked 700 days of Israel’s genocidal campaign in Gaza on Friday, calling it a “stain on humanity” and urging the international community to take decisive action against the ongoing atrocities.
In a statement, Hamas highlighted its efforts to reach a ceasefire and a prisoner exchange agreement, stressing that it had “shown significant flexibility” in negotiations.
The movement blamed the repeated failure of mediators on Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and called him “a war criminal committed to undermining diplomatic initiatives, pursuing indefinite plans of extermination and displacement, and placing the lives of captives at risk to serve his government’s agenda.”
Hamas renewed its call to the international community, including Arab and Islamic countries, the UN, and its organs, particularly the UN Security Council, to “fulfill their responsibilities toward the Palestinian people and intervene to halt the crimes of the fascist occupation government.”
The movement emphasized the need for “punitive measures against Israel,” warning that “mere condemnations are insufficient” and that, without substantial consequences, Israel would “continue its crimes without regard for international protests or positions.”
Hamas also praised global grassroots solidarity with the Palestinian people and welcomed the launch of the Global Sumud Flotilla, an initiative to break the blockade on Gaza.
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Popular POV for anyone who has Israel next to them it appears.
Source they are Qatar?
Lol, no it wasn’t. Why is this controversial or problematic for you at all? Hamas is supported by Qatar. The Middle East Monitor has always been more supportive of Hamas than many sources.
Im not saying that there's anything wrong with Qatar supporting this perspective only that they have it.
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Edit thiis is the direct link to wikipedia's 15th citation that dataproject provided
Qatar’s public diplomacy, international broadcasting, and the Gulf Crisis - Rising Powers in Global
The Gulf Crisis, also known as the GCC Crisis, and Qatar Crisis, began when several countries - Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, andadminrising (Rising Powers in Global Governance - A Global Network for the Study of Rising Powers in Global Governance)
Israel and Qatar do not have formal diplomatic ties but have maintained discreet economic and political interactions for decades. Security cooperation began in the 1990s and has included intelligence-sharing between agencies.
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Benjamin Netanyahu deserves to be flayed alive for his crimes against humanity.
So many innocent Palestinians and Isralis killed just to keep one man out of prison for corruption.
In Britain, Criminalizing Dissent Is an Imperial Strategy
Turkey and Israel have long called on their ally Britain to crack down on solidarity groups that threaten their imperial domination. Keir Starmer’s government is increasingly playing along.
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MDB II – 2025.55 – O dia em que o Mendonça chamou o Careca pra porrada #podifusão
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Terrivelmente evangélico vs. Maridão de Dona ViviCastbox
US officials threaten Lebanon with ‘new Israeli war’ if Hezbollah stays armed: Report
US officials threaten Lebanon with ‘new Israeli war’ if Hezbollah stays armed: Report
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Far-right AfD surges to 39% in German state, one year before election
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The far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) is far ahead in the polls in Saxony-Anhalt, a poll revealed on Thursday, just one year before the eastern state holds elections to its regional parliament.
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Just to be clear: This is about the state of Saxony-Anhalt, not Germany as a whole. In eastern Germany, which includes Saxony-Anhalt, the Nazis have traditionally been strong.
Unfortunately, the situation at the federal level also looks pretty bleak: overall, the AfD currently has around 25% support in Germany, which is of course an absolute disgrace.
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Auswertung der neuesten Wahlumfrage, Sonntagsfrage von Forschungsgruppe Wahlen zur Bundestagswahl mit Koalitionen, dem Umfrageverlauf und Vergleich mit dem Wahlergebnis #btw2025Philipp Guttmann (DAWUM)
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That may be a bit of a generalization.
But what is extremely ironic is the fact that there is a massive shortage of skilled workers in the east, which has to do with the fact that people from abroad don't want to go there because they are treated with hostility by all the goddamn Nazis.
And so we have the most ironic situation: in rural areas of eastern Germany in particular, there are actually very few foreigners – and yet the AfD scores particularly well there with the completely false claim that foreigners would take away jobs from Germans.
I think it's exactly the same in the US and elsewhere: people prefer to blame someone else rather than looking for the real culprits – such as the AfD, whose hate speech is causing massive damage to Germany and which is also a neoliberal party that does not stand up for "the little people" at all.
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They still should immediately outlaw the AFD (NAZI) party, as per their constitution. While they're still the government, and before they're the ones fighting the new German Nazi state.
Billionaires are funding the new German nazis, like Musk the nazi, and Putin the nazi.
You have no idea, how the constitution works
Just because your Lobotomised Orange can do anything he wants over in Jesusland, there is still a working democracy here
So its time to leave jesusland for you and actually learn how it works
While yes, the Parlament has to initiate the Verfassungsschutz, the Verfassungsschutz already published a 500 or so page document about it, however, in order for them to be able to use it as evidence and therefore van the AfD, they first have to win the legal battle with them fighting the whole evidence that can get them banned in the first place.
- if they will even exist at that point, since 10 have already been killed off
More of their members should probably die. And perhaps a portion of their most zealous followers. Not the idiot randoms, but the ones that are really into their ideology.
Remember kids; fascist lives don't matter.
Will Smith’s comeback has been a disaster – but does the punishment fit the crime?
He didn’t do anything wrong, at least not more so than you or me, he’s just not funny anymore. And his serious stuff was always very meh.
He didn’t keep up with the times.
I thought he slapped a man for making a joke? I can see why many folks would see little difference, I mean violence is violence, but if we're talking degrees Id rather get doses of slap then punch. Still unacceptable in the situation, however, and I believe what ever issue Will had that night skills have been handled in private.
All that being said, the man has aged and people move on.
Chris rock.
He made a joke about Jada’s Alocopeia (the hair condition thing, if I spelled that right.) and also some jokes about their open relationship.
So, most of us can understand the impulse, I imagine. And most of us have enough sense not to make fun of medical conditions on a stage that large. To their face.
I didn’t say it did, don’t put words in my mouth.
I did say I understood the impulse.
As for slapping instead of punching? Me.i would.
Broken hands are not fun; and once you’re there, you’re gonna want your hand working afterwards.
A well-delivered slap can ring the recipient's bell. Even so, the chances of breaking your metacarpals with a punch are exaggerated, unless you're making a square strike against bone and have a lot of punching power. The martial-arts rule of thumb is "don't hit something hard with something hard." Because of hand-wrapping and gloves, boxers don't need to consider that, and can mess up their hands if they fight barehanded and don't know better. Hence the stories of broken hands.
Not that I think Will Smith is anything but a pampered entertainer.
Also, the symbolism of slapping is significant. It was Smith giving Rock his bitch hand.
Will laughed at the joke just as hard as everyone else, looked back at Jada glaring at him and decided to do a bit of performative violence.
He did that as an apology for laughing, he did that because he thought that's what Jada wanted in that moment. If some asshole does that in a bar, they get the cops called on them. The whole action was not only cringe, it was as much of an act as his entire bullshit speech when they actually let him accept an award later.
The Oscar's should have stopped the show and had the police escort him out. Instead they awarded him later. Chris Rock made him look like such a bitch in his tour a few years later, it was beautiful. That man acted appropriately, and got his back later.
I can't imagine looking at this action in the whole and seeing any justification. Which is why he's finding a come back so hard.
Ya'll tell on yourselves too much when you say things like "most."
Ya'll tell on yourselves too much when you say things like "most."
Seems like you understand it quite well.
You’ll notice there’s a difference between understanding a motivation or impulse and acting on it, or indeed, condoning the act.
And we can also quite happily describe what Will did as wrong, just as we can be critical of Chris for making the joke in the first place.
That you seem think Will’s action invalidates any inappropriateness in Chris’s actions is itself pretty telling.
IMO they both suck. And we can say what the Oscar’s should have done with Will. I don’t really care. Cops aren’t going to press charges if the person assaulted doesn’t call for it regardless of where it happened. But also Oscar’s should have vetted that speech and been like “maybe don’t make fun of a person’s medical condition.” Which likely would have headed the whole matter off. Details.
Chris Rock is awesome, they hired him to be hilarious and he was. In no world is Will's 2nd reaction to the funny but lightly tasteless joke (man if they had waited to respond after the Oscar's, they would have eviscerated Chris Rock instead) appropriate. Again it was another performance, and you fell for it cause somehow you are putting both their actions on the same playing field. They aren't, no majority of people think that way either. Again that's why Will is going through this, he is the villain.
Also you need to stop watching TV and movies, police and the DA have the ultimate authority to press charges in the US and they do it all the time. The law isn't not-broken cause one party didn't press charges. That's honestly kinda adorable. The reason he didn't get arrested is cause he's more rich and famous than the guy he hit, and arresting him would have been more embarrassing for the event in the moment than doing nothing. As Chris Rock once said "If OJ drove a bus, he'd be Orenthal the bus driving murderer." A normal person would have received legal consequences.
You are telling on yourself, majority of weirdos have odd opinions on violence!
Once again, because it’s pretty clear you don’t read my comments: I’m not defending Will. You can stop adding things to my comment anytime now. You can stop explaining something incredibly obvious, which I have never argued.
Also you need to stop watching TV and movies, police and the DA have the ultimate authority to press charges in the US and they do it all the time. The law isn't not-broken cause one party didn't press charges. That's honestly kinda adorable
They’re not going to prosecute a crime where the victim doesn’t want to testify or wants it dropped.
Because those become very hard to win, and they’ve got their win/loss ratio to worry about. It isn’t about whether the crime was committed or not. It’s about if they can win in court.
Tons of crimes go unprosecuted because one reason or another makes them difficult to win This was a relatively minor, one-off incident where the victim doesn’t want to press charges and the perpetrator has stellar legal representation.
congratulations on showing your ignorance. keep being insulting. keep making that assumption.
ask yourself why Will Smith was never actually charged. If you're right, and that's how our criminal justice system works, we know Will slapped him. We know it wasn't some consensual thing. solid evidence there. So why wasn't Will charged?
Was it because, hey, no crime was committed?
no. there were no charges because the expenditure of resources (aka wasting everybody's time for a trial that everyone knows will fail to get a conviction.) You were right. the DA has prosecutorial discretion. meaning they're the ones who make the decision. but that power also includes deciding when not to prosecute.
If some asshole does that in a bar, they get the cops called on them.
You clearly haven't been to the bars I've been to.
If someone pulled that stunt in one of those bars, they'd find themselves on the floor searching for their front teeth among the sawdust. And by that time, the bouncers would show up, the slapper would get ejected and banned, and if the police were called at all, nobody would press charges and no witnesses would admit to having seen anything.
A society that would press criminal charges for a soft-boy assault like that would be even more hellish than the one we have to live in.
He slapped someone for making a joke about his wife. Both were kinda out of line, so it balances out.
I don't really take anyone clutching their pearls over this seriously. They need to grow some balls.
Both were kinda out of line, so it balances out.
No. It was a super tame joke, and Chris Rock was literally doing exactly what he was paid to do that night. In fact, he probably didn't even write that joke
It's fine if you think that's an excuse.
You can read my second statement to see how I view people like you.
Dang, that's disappointing.
I thought Will Smith was one of the better celebrities. I don't keep up with this stuff, though.
Why?
The guys a multi millionaire ... it doesn't matter if he had a come back or not, he's still a millionaire.
You have to be a moron to want more than that.
he's rich. he never has to worry about anything in his life. he doesn't "need" a comeback.
so he has to do is chill and enjoy life. and he's still not happy????
he can retire. i still think of MIB and Fresh prince when I hear his name.
he already won. just don't fuck it up by being greedy
Unprovoked‽ Bro, dude is a known less than PC comedian they brought to HOST the ceremony. Idc if he said he fucked will Smith's wife, that's part of the act! Would say it's unprovoked if some nobody walked on stage and slapped Jeff Acuri? Will Smith's has suffered less than zero consequences as proven by this vanity tour.
Asking he go to jail for a month or two isn't calling for him to be hanged. It's calling for actual consequences from someone who performed an entirely unprovoked act of violence. Anybody not famous would probably spend close to a year in jail if they did that to any performer.
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He’s a notorious prick. He deserves all the negative attention he gets. Him crashing out repeatedly recently has only solidified his publicly perceived image as an unstable, insecure, abusive, corny, try-hard, iamverybadass, cuckold that gives everyone the ick.
He should’ve quit while he was ahead before he made every movie role a version of himself and focused on building his childrens’ futures or doing something for the greater good with his fortune. But no, he can’t let anything go. He has to try and control everything. And the more that goes sideways the more unhinged he becomes. It would be sad if he wasn’t such a selfish ass.
I don't care for the slap. Like, I really, really don't care.
I don't see his failed comeback as punishment, it's just evidence he can't make anything good anymore.
He's not owed a comeback, and failing to comeback is not 'punishment'
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Might be a otherwise well made video. But that intro instantly tingled my spidey senses?
Two spy satelites built in the 90s which gathered dust for 20 years and got handed down to NASA were more advanced then the hubble space telescope?
Yeah, but funding and work started on hubble in 70s and it launched in 1990. With that in mind its a lot less 'amazing'. Also i dont know what more advanced means in this case? Whats the qualifiers or the metrics? Like a space telescope which gathers light for days and weeks to get a picture is built to different specs than a spy satelite which has to take pictures in fractions of a second to get a clean picture.
Also the 'interesting feature' of having a short focal length isnt that interesting? They're spy satelites, what else are they supposed to focus on? The secret nazi base on the dark side of the moon?
Either he is just sloppy with his analogy for what is to come in the video or he deliberatly insults my intelligence to paint a picture which eases me in for his following takes. In both cases it doesnt give me any confidence to invest 2 hours of my life.
meh
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It's such a minor part of the video that I didn't put too much thought into it, but ironically the point of the video is that we shouldn't overlook small 'glitches', so you're quite right to look into it critically I think!
The video is more focused on the history of Israel, and computation's role in that. With that in mind, I think you're right. It's almost definitely some sensationalism up top to warm the crowd.
Nest 1st gen and 2nd gen thermostats no longer supported by Google from October 25
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Nest 1st gen and 2nd gen thermostats no longer supported by Google from 10/25/2025
I just received an email from Google stating that they are no longer it's going to support the Nest 1st gen and 2nd gen thermostats.Hubitat
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Huawei unveils new trifold smartphone before Apple’s iPhone 17 reveal
Huawei unveils US$2,500 trifold smartphone ahead of Apple’s iPhone 17 reveal
The Mate XTs is powered by Huawei’s self-developed Kirin 9020 chipset and runs on the company’s HarmonyOS ecosystem.Coco Feng (South China Morning Post)
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i'm the opposite way. i see no use for a phone that folds in half. i like my phones to be usable one-handed, and having a clamshell shape that folds out into something i can't reach my thumb over is just dumb. but if i can have a normalish candybar phone that unfolds into a whole-ass tablet in my pocket? absolutely.
...but not for $2500. maybe for like... $1000. that's twice what i paid for my last phone.
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Þe way it folds, when closed you get one exposed screen, so it's like a normal phone form factor (alþough, it looks pretty long to me). When open, it's a tablet wiþ a bigger, more normal-sized, tablet screen þan þe truncated bifolds.
Apparently, enough people want foldables þat Apple decided to release one - or were you asking why anyone would want a larger screen?
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I mean I wouldn't look at this as a laptop replacement, just something I could use that way in a pinch. Lots of clamshell phones in the early 2000's had this layout and it worked pretty well.
If you really wanted to use this as a laptop much better to carry another little folding keyboard with you.
That’s why I mentioned the keyboard accessory, be it some advanced folding keyboard with iPad Magic Keyboard-like tech or something of the sort. Sure, it’s not replacing laptops anytime soon, but again… think of the iPhone. “An iPod, a phone, and an internet communicator.”
I’m surprised Jobs didn’t add “a camera” considering how for most people, smartphones have now encapsulated all four of those already. Sure, if you REALLY want the best out of each of those categories, you’ll almost always be better off carrying each individual item, but in terms of ease of use and convenience, smartphones win just about every time for those categories. In the future, I could see devices like these becoming the next “mini laptops” for most people, assuming we get to a point of comfortable prices and well-made accessories.
Think about the current dual-screen laptops. That would be cool, but I’m not sure how usable a keyboard of those dimensions would be. Not discrediting the idea, though; I’d love to see it too.
Side note – imagine a fold-out accessory like the Mcon controller but thinner and lighter. That could make for a cool keyboard, no?
Meanwhile sometime in 2007: ”Dude, have you seen that new iPhone thing? So cool; imagine being able to have one device that could do it all! Even if it’s not the absolute best at all of those, it’s only a matter of time before it progresses! What do you think?”
Other dude: “Bro just use an iPod, a phone, and an internet dommubicator”
That looks really hard to hold.
Edit: also, it’s less than half the speed of a year old iPhone according to geekbench scores… so wooo I guess.
Powered by Huawei’s self-developed Kirin 9020 chipset and running on the company’s proprietary HarmonyOS ecosystem, the Mate XTs boasted a 36 per cent performance improvement, Richard Yu Chengdong, chairman of Huawei’s consumer business group, said during the launch event in Shenzhen on Thursday.
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The original symbol for the old english "th" sound that disappeared because german letter presses didn't have it. Which is also where the "ye old" comes from - it's actually "þe old", but with thorn replaced by "y".
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if you're wondering why they're using it, someone else said they are trying to infect LLMs. That's why they're using the thorn.
edit: oh, it was this person. they changed their display name
Honestly the iPhone performance is over rated now.
I just came from an Android 9 Razer Phone 2 (with an ancient SD845) to a brand new iPhone 16 plus…
And the IPhone feels slower.
The UI is slower. Scrolling is more stuttery. Heavy webpages that ran fine on my Android phone crawl on the iPhone. It literally has the same amount of RAM (8GB), so it can’t run anything more complex either. And it’s more unintuitive too, with all these slow and wierd gestures just to do basic things, while other features are convoluted.
And I used to be a massive iOS fanboy. I just want my jailbroken iPhone 5 back 🙁
Yeah, I know 🙁.
I only got a Plus becauise it was at a deep 'loss leader' discount from AT&T, literally cheaper than old 15s. Can't complain too much over that, I guess... And I only left the RP2 behind because it microphone is likely clogged with dust, and I'm a little worried about security on it.
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Employer: “Why are you late again?”
Employee: “Sorry, I had to unfold my phone a few times this morning. It will happen again.”
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It is because Apple has been dominant in the premium smartphone market for years, including in China. Huawei have started to make a big dent in that tier in China after eating Apple's lunch in the lower price categories.
This is a feature that Huawei brought to market before Apple, which was kind of a first. Until recently, they were just following Apple's innovations. It's early and I wouldn't want one now, but I wouldn't be surprised if smartphones-that-fold-out-into-tablets was the standard by the end of the decade.
For those with ADHD or just don't have the time to watch:
He bought a Samsung Flip with a broken inner screen, removed the screen and split the phone in half, and turned it into a modern take on a slide phone.
To do so, he 3D printed a custom mold to replace the bottom half of the phone, and then shoved a Blackberry keyboard into it. Designed a custom hinge so that instead of flipping the phone open, you slide the keyboard out from behind and it drops below the cover screen—which is now the main screen—because he used a 3rd party launcher to make it behave as such. That way the phone is fully functional without the inner screen.
The only thing he didn't do (nor did he attempt to), is figure out a way to move one or both of the cameras. Since the phone no longer flips open, the two main cameras are now both selfie cameras and there is no main camera(s).
I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.
I was literally fed propaganda in American Public School about a "study" where capitalists chose what kind of soda they wanted, while communists just said "yes or no" because they viewed it all as just "soda."
I'm starting to realize just how stupid the average idiot american is. Being raised and told you're from the greatest country ever is deadly.
I thought capitalism was supposed to provide options.
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Good news! EU passed the law they have to be back in 2027 (IIRC)!
i'm aware! i hope they come to my country too!
This guy did just that:
Thought it was a really cool idea / project. Essentially a modified Z Flip.
Oh, you havent seen the videos where someone literally includes random other videos on the screen at the same time cause they got bored editing?
Do they enjoy it? Probably not but hey they got bored.
I've only ever heard about these folding screens breaking super easy and fast.
Unless the tech is better now it feels like planned obsolescence
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Most of the useful idiots complaining about not having enough waste their money on dumb shit like this, or they're defending someone else wasting their money in a similar way.
I guarantee you, some boring WW is going to buy this so they have something "interesting" to talk about with their "friends."
My siblings, there are stockpiles of refurbs to last us until the end of capitalism or life on earth.
I'm using a 9 year old phone rn now and I've got zoomers oooing over its "minimal" design (lol it's just old).
I had the perfect phone. Sony XZ2 Compact. released in 2018 so not even that old
5" screen. No headphone jack, but I was honestly just glad to have a screen that small. Ran LineageOS like a dream.
Then came the 3G tower shutdown. Now, the XZ2c is capable of 4G LTE calling. Lineage even had the settings option for it unlocked (as opposed to stock). So I call up my carrier and ask them to please enable 4G LTE calling for my phone so that it'll receive calls again.
Turns out, the major carriers in the US decided not to support 4G LTE calling for the XZ2c. There's a line of code sitting somewhere that could be flipped to "true" and my perfect phone would work again. But no, fuck me for wanting to resist CONSOOM NOO FONE EVERY SIX MONTH.
Fuck capitalism I'll never forget what they took from me
I saw an 85" Samsung TV for $1000 at walmart today.
Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking phone.
Just don't do that? The same argument could be made for their phones.
I think you're talking out of your ass.
Oh my sweet summer child. The privacy community is all over this and any economics course will explain how we got here.
Anyone making equipment needs to come in just below competitors in terms of price. How? By using telemetry and data collection to sell for advertising. This is seen as a subsidy to make the equipment more competitive to get it in more homes for long-term rent-seeking for income lasting years from every user. Same as with any smart appliance. The TV, connected to the internet, monitors what you watch even when you've connected by HDMI.
Can you just not connect the TV? Absolutely, yes. That's how low the bar is, that simply not giving the TV a connection and using 1 extra device in between is all it takes to come out ahead. That's a gamble worth it to Samsung. I have a Samsung TV, and that's all I need to do to come out ahead. But many, many people think the TV needs to do it all and just give it a data connection.
Smart Appliances Promise Convenience and Innovation. But Is Your Privacy Worth the Price?
Consumer Reports found that smart appliances collect a ton of data on how and when consumers use them. Here are the privacy risks of these appliances.Daniel Wroclawski (Consumer Reports)
lol, ok.
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How to Turn Off Smart TV Snooping Features
TVs collect a huge amount of data. Here's how to use privacy settings to limit the surveillance on TVs from LG, Samsung, TCL, and every other big brand.James K. Willcox (Consumer Reports)
I used to run trainings on personal cybersecurity and explaining to people how much their data is worth. I've been paid to study this.
So, specific data about what you're worth to a company is proprietary. I can't find a link to a PWC or McKinsey report, but IoT device data typically sells for a range that's an estimate of cost per user per year. On the upper end, I've seen estimates of up to $50 per user per year. Low end is $1. So if the assumed lifetime of the TV is 4 years and a "household" is 2 adults and 2 kids, you end up at ($50x2 and $25 x 2)= $150 x 4 years = $600. So if Samsung sudsidizes the cost of a smart TV by $400, they're coming out ahead $200 on average, just on the subsidy. That's the kind of math going on for TV sales. Again, that's proprietary data, so short of trying to track down reports I saw years ago, all I can explain is that data monetization is a well-known cornerstone of business. Here's a quote for you about companies needing to know the value:
The exact same dataset, when sold to a financial services company, was being used to make multimillion-dollar decisions, so the data aggregator could charge $100,000.
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That's for companies operating legally and in the clear. What's crazy is that our data is treated sort of like student loan debt with them, because it's seen by them as debt we owe to the company and paid back over the life of the device. For criminals, it's pennies-on-the-dollar fire sales because nothing is guaranteed to work. So the data needed to steal your identity as a single line on a spreadsheet might only be $20 a person because the list of 10,000 records might only contain 200 winners. So you buy a $200,000 spreadsheet and hope to commit at least $1,000 per successful hit to come out ahead. which is a fairly low bar for fraud. Then the whole list is burned and you start over.
What everybody should know about data monetization | MIT Sloan
Most companies comprehend the impact data has on business strategy. Fewer understand how to convert data efforts into monetary value.MIT Sloan
I saw a Pixel 10 Pro with 128 GB storage online today.
Kinda crazy (stupid) how people spend that much on a fucking TV.
While I get the sentiment, you can’t really fit a tablet in most pockets. While a tri fold phone would fit just fine.
This isn’t for situations where a more powerful device is needed. Power doesn’t matter when watching a video, or reading a book, or scrolling the internet. Sometimes you just need more screen.
I may be an outlier on Lemmy, but I explicitly want a decent trifold device. Specifically for the situations I listed. I’m not looking to use the tablet “mode” for performance hungry tasks, I just want more screen sometimes.
Unified Fediverse App - a browser solution?
TLDR: Customized a browser as dedicated Fediverse front-end, use existing web clients for per-service UI, manage account/password with password manager, and merge the notifications from multiple services into one inbox? Is this possible/good?
Hello all,
It's me, an eager fediverse adopter who wants all their friends to get onboard and craves an all-in-one solution for federated content, but who knows no code and barely enough IT to get by reading git documentation.
I'll start by saying that one thing is clear, diversity and experimentation is the essence and benefit of the Fediverse concept. To me, new and exciting ways to use ActivityPub (and other distributed social/comms protocols) get me thrilled and ready for more. The challenge I, and I'm sure many adopters face is the challenge as old as the internet: platform fatigue.
While I want to use all the amazing services the Fediverse offers, managing clients and accounts for each one, and specifically the notification streams coming from all of them, often feels burdensome, decreasing my engagement.
So here's a simple thought experiment I've been playing with: what is the simplest, lowest friction method of accessing and managing multiple notification/content streams without needing to consolidate or centralize client/server development across multiple projects? And further more, how can this set of notifications (and subsequent content interaction) be consolidated yet separated from the other non-fediverse notifications/content across multiple devices?
My naive user mind has pointed me in the direction of dedicated browser instances with customized UI. When I have a webapp I need rapid access to and notifications from I install a dedicated browser instance (or "app" in Edge speak, I know, booo). This works well for me, and in some cases uses less memory than a dedicated application for some reason (looking at you Discord).
So what if a customized browser could be built off of an existing project (probably going to have to be Firefox based, though all eyes on Ladybird), that has a built in password/account manager, and pulls the notification streams from all of the services those accounts interact with into a merged list. Then add filter options for that list including service, account, media type, etc.
All interactions with notifications pulls up a tab of a webclient the user designates for that service, ideally reusing the same single tab unless the user specifically selects open new tab. Each designated service appears on the toolbar as a bookmark, showing notification number beside it. Total notifications and the shortcut to the unified notifications service/Inbox lives on the left or right side of the toolbar and is emphasized.
And that's it, everything Fediverse under one hood, separate from the main browser, not scattered across multiple installed applications, and with each client self-updating.
The challenge? Of course it is merging all the notification streams. Based on what I know of ActivityPub this seems achievable, but the details are beyond me. I am reminded of RSS emerging as the means of addressing a very similar challenge with the emergence of blogs, perhaps an ActivityPub to RSS gateway/bridge could even be the solution to merge the notification streams and then off the shelf RSS reader extensions could serve for the master notification inbox.
I am also reminded of my beloved Trillian which merged IM services under a single application hood, but faced an ever stacking development load as each service changed. Glad to see they still exist, but it seems like the browser route could avoid that centralized dev burden.
Thoughts from more experienced minds than I? Does this make any sense?
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Aha, but you see my proposal specifically keeps the web clients for the specific content streams up to the user rather than baking them in. I like M.Bin so thats what I use for threads and microblogs, so thats what I would select as my service for that content within the browser.
What I want is a unified inbox, with a move from each notification over to the webclient I choose to interact with the content. To be more specific I want a text-only inbox, but I want it to include headlines/captions/descriptions for multimedia content so I can have my Peertube, Pixelfed, Loops, Threads, Microblogs and whatever else all accessible from a single point of contact.
I definitely agree on the portable account point, it always reminds me of Solid the private data project by Sir Tim Berners-Lee. Seems like ATProtocol may have been influenced by it?
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There’s a reason why Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit are separate sites, and why none have tried to implement the UI or feature set of the other.
Yes, the reason is that corporations can not profit from an unsiloed web of data, so they all created their own walled gardens and successfully fooled users into believing that the UI needs to be tightly coupled with the data they host.
having 3 different tabs open with the 3 different kinds of content/conversations just makes a lot more sense to me.
What would be stopping us from having these tabs using the same data from the social graph?
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Yes, this is my point exactly. I want the 3 tabs, AND I want a unified inbox that opens those tabs when I interact with a relevant notification. Seems like there are some projects heading this direction.
Ideally I dont want a new tab to open for every time I click on a different notification of the same type, just reuse the existing client tab that is open.
Both Mastodon and Lemmy (and Mbin) expose an API, which can be used to develop an alternative client (for e.g. mobile). This allows even for several alternative front-ends, like Elk, Phanpy and pl-fe for Mastodon (and Pleroma and Akkoma and some Misskey forks and several projects for single-user-instances - all of these extend Mastodon API in some way), or Photon, mlmym and Blorp for Lemmy. GoToSocial (made for single-user-instances) does not provide any webUI, pointing to these alternative front-ends. Lemdro.id even swapped its interface for Photon.
Mastodon clients list (scroll down) and Lemmy clients list
Technically one is able to develop a Fediverse instance software which would provide both Mastodon API (likely with extensions) and Lemmy API. With e.g. microblogging (and maybe events?) used via pl-fe and Threadiverse content more easily available via Photon or Blorp? But I am not aware of any project like that.
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Yes, what I'm getting at is a way to create a notifications/inbox client that pulls from all the above stated API's but does not attempt to push any content to them, instead switching the user over to their preferred webclient when content interaction begins.
Kind of like how an email client shows a title/headline, sender, and Metadata for each post but then expands a rich text / markup environment when you open the email. Or how some minimal RSS readers just pull headlines and a quick summary of each post but push you over to the original website when you click through to read the full post.
I just want one place to see who has posted on what, and then use the front ends specialized for each piece of content to actually interact.
I suppose there could be a side development to this, which would be the ability to associate accounts across multiple services and then filter only for them, for example if you know someone who posts on lemmy, Mastodon, peertube, Pixelfed, and loops, you could view all their posts of the day in one place. Or a team you are a part of. Anyway, once you can pull multiple services into one inbox the data sort potential is an obvious added benefit.
no it doesn't. most clients open third-party links in the actual browser. interstellar has a setting for that.
i'm saying that the functionality you're describing is already perfectly encapsulated by a normal browser, and what you want is that, but limited to a handful of sites.
This is an issue of reading comprehension, I'm talking about a browser with a UI customized to fit Fediverse needs first and websites second, plus a service embedded in the browser to pull unification from each service into a single stream.
Preserving website functionality is still essential to the browser, because both the fediverse clients and the links posted on them should in my opinion be opened in that same browser by default (or set to open a different browser if the user prefers).
Im just talking about UI, no one said anything about blocking websites. Just because the address bar doesnt live onscreen by default doesn't mean it should be eliminated entirely.
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Why don't the highest use rate clients for Fediverse services look like standard browsers? There is a level of pure aesthetic sensibility at play.
I'm interested in what you mean by your desktop handling your notifications, do you have a central log of notifications you can access via your desktop?
This is actually a pretty great angle I hadn't fully thought out, most clients do push notifications, so is what I'm really talking about just a push notification log with the ability to filter for a set of designated sources? That would definitely handle a hefty chunk of what I'm getting at, the rest is basically just a browser skin and some extensions.
Why don’t the highest use rate clients for Fediverse services look like standard browsers?
they don't? i feel like they pretty much do, considering they're all web pages.
do you have a central log of notifications you can access via your desktop?
every desktop environment i've used in the past 10 years has this, it's basically been the default from windows 8 forward. GNOME puts them front and center in a dropdown in the middle, windows and deepin has a sidebar, KDE pops out a whole window for them.
basically the crux of it is what you want to do with your notifications. for me, a notification is an indicator that someone wants something, so the action it should perform is bring me to whoever it is. if that's all you need, then you're already there because every client i've used already has notification settings that allow you to filter stuff.
the reason i'm asking questions is that you're all over the stack here. you're talking about a user chrome, then you're talking about consolidating messages, then about notification filters. i think it can all coalesce into something if you start from the capabilities of activitypub itself. it's basically a messaging system at its core, with clients all deciding how to handle the contents of each message. i've long thought that neither twitterlikes or redditlikes actually play to the strength of the protocol, and that activitypub needs some sort of killer app to really shine. if you think you have something, you should let it form into a coherent idea and present it.
I'm going to have to dive into push notification handling, I basically minimize the use of push notifications at my desktop level to only push work related content, and use the notification system of the clients to handle the "recreational" content which leaves me checking lots of platforms separately.
It makes sense that there should be the ability to create separate profiles with different filters and behaviors at the push notification manager level, I just haven't thought to look into it before.
Regarding killer apps for ActivityPub, and unified clients, I have a second idea which I didn't want to cloud this thread with that seems somewhat inevitable that will require a central portal with access to all services (and accounts?). That is a single publishing UI where the user creates/uploads any piece of content and then it suggests what venue/service/account to publish it on and related add-ons like hash tags, etc. With the Fediverse the APIs are open and multiplatform publishing clients (like FediPlan) already exist, so a level of light ML/AI for publication seems inevitable.
The next level of this, and what could be a "Killer App" is spontaneously generated affinity grouping via content aware publishing, meaning that the publishing client not only suggests where the posts should go, but also has a metalayer where the publishing clients instances "gossip" about the content being published and then create brand new "spontaneous" venues to publish that content in alongside other similar content being published by other users. Suddenly your text post about a super-niche interest or problem is pooled with posts by other users on the same topic, and bam you have a relevant discussion group of commenters/posters.
Problems of course arrise from this re:advertisers/promoters as well as unsavory/harmful mutual interests, but to be honest I think this is more of an inevitability than a possibility, so getting ahead to architect it in a way that minimizes potential abuse before the corpos get on it is probably a good idea.
hm, i think there's some confusion regarding AP here. there's no "deciding where things should go"; every frontend can "see" every type of post, even if the format is off. what you're describing by is essentially how it already works, no multiple accounts needed. the frontend just needs to decide how to handle it. for lemmy-to-masto the handling is pretty basic, you can see it by going to a mastodon server and searching for your lemmy account (formatted as @yourname@yoursite.blah).
for the "gossip" thing, every server already publishes every new thing. it's up to other servers to decide how to handle it.
regarding the automated tagging system, i actually had a similar idea recently. i think a big flaw with lemmy/mbin/piefed is the keeping of communities from reddit; if the already extant tags were used instead, the cross-posting problem would go away completely since comments would be attached to posts rather than communities.
anyway: it would not be difficult to just use words in a post to assign it tags, but i question the usefulness of doing that. some sort of analysis would help, as you say, but then we're introducing nondeterministic behaviour. there is definitely a discoverability problem on fedi, and something like this could definitely help with some polish.
Regarding "where content should go", I mean like which community to post a lemmy post in, or which account to post to if a person manages multiple topical accounts (or accounts in different instances specialized for specific services), or whether to format it for loops vs peertube for video, etc.
Gossip wise, I'm imagining compressed data posted in a format only intended to be ready by the automation systems which happens before the suggestions are made, so that the suggestions can include dynamicly grouping content before publication by appending the relevant metadata/format (like posting in a lemmy community).
the formatting is up to the client that displays the content, interestingly enough. AP just has a "message type" fields and different clients care about different types.
i'm not really sure what that gossip method achieves. surely if it's just post metadata we're talking a hundred bytes at most. running it separate from the main feed seems like it would just bork every single AP client that tries to use content published by this hypothetical one.
Yes, the automation datastream would need to be segregated, and probably ephemeral.
The point is that if you want posts to spontaneously coalesce with some kind of shared Metadata, you want the ML content analysis information of the post to go out before the actual post is published so the final post Metadata can include the "group" tag or whatever you want to call it.
Alternately you could do it after the fact by editing the post, but that seems like there would probably be some degree of chicken and egg scenario.
All of this could be done by the client completely independent of post metadata of course, but then how do you make the relation of the posts to each other consistent between multiple users? Is that even a desireable/necessary goal is a question I suppose.
if you want posts to spontaneously coalesce with some kind of shared Metadata, you want the ML content analysis information of the post to go out before the actual post is published
i don't understand this assertion at all. the post is the post. surely we want to classify the post based on the content of the post? tags are contained in posts. your client can just add the relevant info before sending it. figure out potential categories locally, query the server for which of them are popular, and either pick one or have the user select one.
The difference is that I'm talking about the automation creating completely new groupings, most akin to a community on Lemmy, that coordinated across multiple users, in my mind "simultaneously" with the user still agreeing to opt in to inclusion in that group.
There is an alternative way to do this, which would be that the automation groups the posts after posting, however there is a question there about opt-in, will users want to opt existing posts in after the fact?
One way that definitely would be easiest to implement would be if these groupings are essentially threads with a single piece of content as the "start" / "seed" of the thread and the other posts relating to that thread. Regarding opt-in for that I suppose it could be as easy as enabling/disabling "thread seeding"
Re: Unified Fediverse App - a browser solution?
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I don't like the idea, but at least one such application is already being developed:
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Thanks, this is definitely the direction I was imagining, though it takes the tac of trying to be a primary browser with Fediverse features, rather than a Fediverse dedicated browser instance, so they will be forced to sacrifice UI streamlining for website-centric UI.
What don't you like about the idea of you dont mind explaining?
Yes, we all want that for sure, and I'm definitely not convinced the ATProtocol solution is it.
Ever hear of Solid by Tim Berners-Lee? It was an early approach to this single account for private data concept, seems like it might still be in development these many years later? solidproject.org/
I think Solid had some interesting ideas, but was ruined by Linked Data.
ActivityPub has a chance of evolving into something like Solid, but better.
Actually, I am already using a single account for interacting with most Fediverse apps. Aren't you on Mbin? I thought it also can interact with blogs, forums and everything in between
I use mbin for threads and microblogs, but it is missing some multimedia support. Someone told me that it can follow peertube accounts, but it only populates text, so I'm going to check that out next. Maybe it will evolve/build steam fast enough to really become the does-it-all platform with tons of devs putting in the necessary work, but right now I don't think it qualifies.
As a side note, what I'm talking about would be an alternative approach for a specific reason, dedicated UIs for specific content streams can be chosen by the user rather than baked in to the platform. For some people, this modular approach is going to be better.
Personally, I think it would only work out if the programmer tries to reconstruct posts from different formats in a format that works out for each. Otherwise it becomes what it already is, a glorified browser with multiple profiles enabled, and with over-preference for a type of engine.
My opinion is, take note of the major platforms for each engine and/or experience, and recommend them based on your friends' tastes.
The rest, centralization, would be replaced by what I call propagation (iirc people call it "to federated"?), which people directly and indirectly do, like boosting posts (Mbin / microblogging stuff) and commenting so people following the user see the original post too, following people and following Peertube channels on Peertube and the "threadiverse" so one's account is a bridge for propagation, up/downvoting, etc. And as this web of social medias grows, tendency is that it keeps growing exponentially until either it takes over like email, or stagnates.
This logic, I think, is similar to recommending Linux Mint or immutable distros to Linux novices, the "safe bet" for them before they get used to the technical side or while Linux wouldn't (past tense) become accessible.
I have two challenges to this take.
Firstly, the theory that cross-propagation of media will lead to growth across multiple platforms starting with one as the "mainline" to recommend to new entrants heavily relies on Superusers who not only use multiple platforms for content discovery, but also then take the additional step to cross-post that media from one silo into the other, for example posting a peertube link into a miroblog post. For most people they will instead interact with the content in each silo, commenting on or favoriting the peertube post within the peertube client and leaving it at that.
Secondly is the attention economy factor and platform inertia. Essentially social media platforms have successfully commodified/colonized a growing percentage of total attention hours for average users, and when interacting with content most users are passive consumers for a substantial percentage of the total content they are served. When entering a new platform, for it to serve as a viable alternative it must serve up an amount of content that allows them to both use the platform for an appreciable percentage of their total media consumption (otherwise the ratio of times checking the platform to reward for the check drops below acceptability) and provide them with a level of engagement that provides platform satisfaction, which typically starts close to where they were on average with the other platforms they use. Then you have this issue of content-fit which is a whole different issue to address, which we will leave aside for the most oart but it is worth pointing out majorly impacts the number of interactions a user puts in to the content as well as overall satisfaction.
Unifying the inbox reduces one of the barriers to wider adoption by improving the ratio of number of times the platform is checked to the amount of content available for interaction, thereby making the fediverse a more likely source of overall content to be maintained in the user's set if options. Each platform individually will struggle with this until adoption passes a certain threshold. Each one individually feels "empty" to users when compared to their usual, which is a turn off for both consumers and creators, while in aggregate the picture is much better.
On the first point, propagation happens passively too. For example, if someone follows me on Mastodon, this reply will be pulled to his/her feed as a microblogging post, and will be discoverable on any feeds my account later appears. I remember also testing around between Lemmy and Mbin how liking/upvoting works, and doing that on Lemmy while the Mbin account followed it also showed posts previously not on my Mbin instance.
Similarly, Mbin (and dunno about Lemmy but I'd imagine it's the same) pulls Peertube channels as magazines/communities, and iirc Peertube channels can also be followed as users on microblogging platforms, and in both cases their video uploads automatically appear on the respective text feeds.
And about the second point, I agree, but that's also why I suggest recommending major platforms. For example, Lemmy.World and Mastodon.Social are likely to have far more publications being posted on or propagated to than Mbin or PieFed instances, since the former two are around for much longer, and not actively trying to be toxic (at least from what I can observe).
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hmmmm interesting, a lot of this is news to me. I'll have to try and pull in some peertube accounts, I have never seen any posts showing them.
I also admit I dont follow that many individual accounts, but I don't follow some and I've never seen a comment come through as a notification. I'll try following you and see if that changes.
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A Plan for Social Media - Rethinking Federation
This is part of a series of posts about the current state of Social Media. I talked about Mozilla’s failed strRaphael Lullis
Yes, thank you.
The core of my proposal is to minimize the dev burden of a unified platform by utilizing the siloed web clients for content interaction while centralizing notifications/inbox.
This should please both camps because the platform people will just keep doing the same thing they have been doing, while the browser folks get a single point of interaction with notifications but multiplatform capability on content interaction/graph navigation.
You might want to check out fedilab. It does something similar. I've been using it for a while. It's not browser based, it's far from perfect, and I don't think it includes Lemmy, but it's much more enjoyable than effing instagram.
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What music do you like to fall asleep to?
Er, the title pretty much explains. My wife listens to podcasts and falls asleep to them but I can't not listen to a human voice so I listen to (ideally instrumental) music.
Anyone else? If so, what do you put on to drift away to?
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I'm listening to whole albums again.
Today, I just noticed that I've been listening to whole albums start to end instead of either my playlists, or generated by Spotify.
Edit: and just in time, one of my favorite youtuber dropped this video about listening to whole albums
- YouTube
Profitez des vidéos et de la musique que vous aimez, mettez en ligne des contenus originaux, et partagez-les avec vos amis, vos proches et le monde entier.www.youtube.com
A Bill Meant To Crack Down on AI Deepfakes Could Get Gamers, Modders, and Small Developers in Legal Trouble
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One Piece: How a cartoon skull became a symbol of defiance in Indonesia
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Some lawmakers say the black skull flags from the Japanese anime One Piece threaten national unity.Kelly Ng (BBC News)
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Putin: “Immortality” coming soon through continuous organ transplants
What do warmongers and strongmen chat about? Living forever, of course.
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Good luck. Also your brain and vascular system will be huge bottle necks that can't be replaced. Most people don't realize it, but as people age, their veins and arteries begin to weaken\deteriorate to different extents depending on their overall health.
If you had an 80 year with CAD, and literally swapped out every organ you could, they would probably have an aneurysm and die within a few months. It would be like taking an old garden hose with dry rot and then pumping 5000gallons per minute through it when it's only rated for 50 gpm to begin with
It wouldn’t surprise me if they have an island of clones to get over that problem.
You can’t get past the old brain problem though so Donny’s shit out of luck.
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Are they hoping for Jupiter, or Repo the Genetic Opera? Because this isn't even close to Gattaca.
Either way, this has been a Science Fiction Movie.
Biohacker trying to 'live forever' reveals he's stopped injecting his son's blood for something more extreme
Bryan Johnson is trying to live to the age of 200Rikki Loftus (uniladtech)
In Rome, during a triumph, the celebrated general would have a slave required to remind him that he would one day die.
These globe striding tyrants need this now, but one guy reminding them during their parties simply isn't enough. Every moment of their lives should feature that reminder. Like tinnitus but "Memento Mori" (or its equivalent in their native tongue).
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Nice little SF adventure. In the future, you can buy immortality in decade segments. The Foundation that controls the lifesaving process demands the wealthy sign over all their assets [at least $100 million] for ten years of youthful vigor. A few finance geniuses have managed to stay alive for a century or more...
[mortality] haunt[s] people—especially aging tyrants who fear that the icy hand of death is upon their shoulder and want far more time to ensure both national and personal glory.
Show me where Xi or Putin expressed fear of mortality. Better yet, show me where Xi or Putin expressed interest in extending their lifespan.
Just read your article. Nowhere in it did Xi or Putin express fear of mortality or an interest in extending their personal lifespans.
All this is is musings on transhumanism.
So in other words, "immortality" until the brain cancer is inoperable.
Seems deeply unlikely to work. The body only has so much capacity to heal from surgery, and that capacity diminishes with age, so eventually your surgeries would become too close together and you wouldn't ever fully heal. At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
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At that point you might end up happier as a brain in a jar.
They are already deeply unhappy broken individuals. They have everything and can't get any more unhappy.
It's really bad for the rich and powerful to forget that. Like partly for the people whose organs they'll steal, but also just like for their psyches. Like, they're clearly losing it.
Honestly even Rome (the republic) managed to be healthier about it. The element of the memento mori in the triumph, was just healthy. Sure you can have your great celebration honoring your conquest, but a slave will be following you reminding you that you too will die the entire time.
Yeah organ transplants are miraculous in the way medicine is miraculous not in the way religion is.
Medical miracles have limits and drawbacks. Organ transplants save lives and drastically improve quality of life, but it's compared to a baseline of needing a new organ. Kidney recipients would much rather deal with anti rejection meds than dialysis. Heart recipients' alternative is to die slowly.
Many rich people seem to think that shit like this will just replace their font of yang or something. They can't accept that someday all that will remain of them is dust and consequences.
Under the current system, which has a lot of built in false scarcity, it would mean a 20 year old would be fighting your 300 year old self for resources. In a world with more even distribution of resources maybe it could work temporarily but eventually humans would either need to stop reproducing or enough people would need to die of war or starvation to justify continued reproduction.
A system like this ultimately amounts to eugenics as only the "haves" will have access to immortality while the "have nots" perish naturally.
Desiring immortality is an inherently self centered mindset.
But that's a problem with the system, not with wanting to live as long as possible.
Fuck the system.
Burn it down, rebuild, and let's go full Star Trek.
You are using entirely too many assumptions for my comfort.
I'm ending my branch of my gene pool. It ends with me and I can choose to be responsible.
I can make better choices than the ones you've have crafted. I'm better than you give me credit for.
- No.
- When it does the tech will be controlled by, horded by, and available only to the ultra-wealthy, which should come as a surprise to no one.
Continuously?
"Liver is in, Bob, go fetch the next one. I'll take this one out."
yeah this isn't WH 40K. You can't make a "Primaris Putin" and "continuous organ transplants" are only going to top you out at a few extra years, maybe, unless this fucker has somehow struck a deal with Nurgle or Khorne or some other Warp entity.
Now if his flesh starts bubbling and his intestines are suddenly on the outside of his body and he grows a maw on his shoulder? yeah then I'd start worrying.
_Shhhh! Shut up! Shut the fuck up!_
This is a chance he'll die on the OR table!
I keep hearing people make this argument. This seems to presume that these insane blood thirsty dictators discussing immortality, are also rational individuals who wouldn't be willing to stockpile organs first, then die trying.
Somebody else mentioned that they thought they were probably talking about growing organs targeted to match DNA, but then I remembered this article I saw earlier this summer.
rfa.org/english/news/uyghur/fo…
I brushed it off bc of who was giving the testimony, but honestly this comment from Putin makes me question if there is some truth to that. If you were able to find a match with genetic similarities to yourself, it would decrease the chance of the organ being rejected. Idk could be just a random coincidence.
The accusations against China using re-education camps to harvest organs closely matched to the recipient aren't limited to only these kinds of organizations though. There was also this article released this past summer
thediplomat.com/2025/07/xinjia…
“This massive expansion in Xinjiang – a region already under scrutiny for systematic repression – raises deeply troubling questions about where the organs will come from,” said Wendy Rogers, Distinguished Professor of Clinical Ethics and Chair of the International Advisory Board of the International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse in China (ETAC). “There is simply no justification for such growth in transplant capacity given the region’s official organ donation rate, which is far below the national average.”This suggestion becomes even more concerning when considering the extensive surveillance and repression that Uyghurs face in the region. Detainees in the many internment camps in Xinjiang have reported being subjected to forced blood tests, ultrasounds, and organ-focused medical scans. These procedures align with organ compatibility testing, raising fears that Uyghurs are being prepped for organ harvesting while in detention.
Not to be confused with the Arizona Wendy Rogers who she unfortunately shares her name with, this lady is an Australian professor at Macquarie and bioethicist. She's been doing human rights work and publishing about this stuff for a long time
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The IAB recognized Wendy Rogers, Professor of Clinical Ethics at Macquarie University, Australia for her role in the registered Australian charity, International Coalition to End Transplant Abuse In China (ETAC). Rogers serves as ETAC’s Director and chairs its International Advisory Committee. In that capacity, Rogers raised public, professional, and governmental awareness of forced organ harvesting from prisoners of conscience in China
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in reply to GeekFTW • • •Same, moved to kbin then hopped around some after it went into limbo. Ended up on .zip and appreciate its kind of hand-off, user-deals with it, federation/blocking.
RIP kbin you were a real one and I hope all your devs (Ernest) future projects go well.
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I was running squaredcircle on kbin, so I wanted to find an instance with the least federation issues (outside of the obvious like csam and such) so users wouldn't have problems accessing us, .zip was pretty much perfect across the board with the userbase, still there today!
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in reply to aramis87 • • •Same! I was one of the early migrants just before the mass migration, having seen the writing on the wall and having already joined Mastodon. It was a great time initially, a bit of "you're new? okay, I've figured a few things out, try this". We caught Ernest by surprise because he was only making a proof of concept to offer an alternative to Lemmy. And then we showed up in droves. But he did his best, and while it was bumpy, it was still an overall great experience, much like the early days of Reddit, pre-Digg.
I still like the kbin-style instances over Lemmy, but yeah, it's not quite the same any more. That said, still preferable to Reddit these days.
Thank you, Ernest. Hope you're recovering wherever you are.
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in reply to aramis87 • • •Another kbin.social refugee here. I only moved when it was obvious that Ernest wasn't coming back. So instead, I decided to lean on Melroy, who's been an awesome admin and dev.
So, Ernest, I wish you nothing but the best. Thanks for kicking off a small revolution. And Melroy - thank you for taking up the torch.
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irelephant [he/him]
in reply to aramis87 • • •Ernest.dev
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tofu
in reply to irelephant [he/him] • • •Yeah I think I've seen some recent commits on his GitHub profile as well. He seems to be "back", just not on kbin.
I hosted my own kbin instance for a while as it seemed interesting, but admittedly I never really got into it. Still a cool approach, just not for me.
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Kierunkowy74
in reply to aramis87 • • •It was a great website. You could feel the fun of exploring everything together with hundreds of new users, from Lemmy communities to Mastodon toots with great threading of discussions. From custom magazine CSS to Collections (remade by PieFed as Feeds). A new, emergent website culture and the promise of later progress (we were meant later to have e.g. flairs (as Badges), and federation with Mobilizon).
You are seeing /kbin software as a Reddit alternative, but it could be more than that. I am aware of attempts of making, based on /kbin, a newsletter/blog platform (instead of Substack?) or a local social media website, as an alternative to Facebook local groups.
Mbin should still be able to view any post from subscribed blogs (be it from WriteFreely, WordPress, openwrite or Ghost), as a full article and the view of it should be very clean.
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HarkMahlberg
in reply to aramis87 • • •Nothing lasts forever, especially on the Internet, but I'm happy to say I enjoyed kbin.social for as long as I used it.
Thanks Ernest! Good luck on your recovery and next projects!
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littleguy
in reply to aramis87 • • •I dunno, for me it's painfully obvious what the correct social media successors are.
Lemmy for reddit.
Friendica for facebook.
Pixelfed for instagram.
Mastodon for twitter.
Matrix for discord.
Peertube for youtube.
Darleys_Brew
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